April 24, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bamm. | |
| Thanks for joining us. | ||
| That plan would increase the debt ceiling by $1.5 trillion, and it aims to cut $4.5 trillion in spending over the next decade. | ||
| For a look at what's ahead, we want to bring in Judd Gregg, who served as both governor and senator of New Hampshire. | ||
| Also, Donna Edwards, who's a former congresswoman serving Maryland's 4th District. | ||
| Thank you both for being here. | ||
| Donna, why don't we start with you? | ||
| You don't think that this is something that's going to get resolved anytime soon. | ||
| No, I really don't. | ||
| I mean, I expect, you know, take a look at that window between the July 4th recess and the August recess, and that's when I expect the heavy lifting is going to happen. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy, the speaker, is not serious with this proposal that he's put out because he knows that President Biden is not going to agree to a set of spending cuts to his major priorities of the first term of his administration. | ||
| So it's not serious. | ||
| I expected it's going to go to the Senate where the heavy lift is going to happen and then come back to the House. | ||
| There'll be a set of Senate negotiators, I believe, you know, bipartisan to get to 60 votes. | ||
| That's going to send a debt ceiling increase during that time period over to the House. | ||
| Judd, I take it you probably think neither side is being very serious at this point? | ||
| Yeah, right now we're in a political position. | ||
| The McCarthy plan, Donna appropriately points out, probably isn't viable than Democrats. | ||
| And the president's position is sort of foolish, really, when you think about it. | ||
| Over time, when there's been divided government, we've always had negotiation on default, on the default language and the extension of the debt limit. | ||
| But I think where I disagree with Donna is I think her time limit may be off. | ||
| Revenues are so down here in April, but it's very possible in June we could run into this fall. | ||
| And as a result, these parties have to get serious. | ||
| Now, ironically, a group in the House of Bipartisan People have put forward the exact answer that they should pursue. | ||
| The problem-solving caucus has suggested setting up a commission Like Simpson-Bowles, but this time it would have legislative authority, which would come back with a proposal. | ||
| If the production crew can just... | ||
| But hold it right there, because that's Judd Gregg. | ||
| We're going to bring that back, because that shows you the feckless Republican Party that got us in this situation. | ||
| Let's have a commission, let's have a study, and let's give them a clean lift on the debt ceiling. | ||
| It is Monday, 24 April, year of early 2023. | ||
| You're in the war room. | ||
| We've got a lot to get through today, a lot of wood to chop, and we're going to start chopping right now with Russ Vogt. | ||
| Russ, where do you think we stand? | ||
| Look, I appreciate Speaker McCarthy having heard Katz. | ||
| Of putting this initial plan together, but if memory serves me correctly, your plan cut $17 trillion out, I think, in the first 10 years and got a still-balanced budget. | ||
| This cuts $4.5 trillion. | ||
| The center of gravity of this doesn't seem to me, McCarthy's plan, to actually rein in spending and cut the debt ceiling. | ||
| A lot of it is about going after The Green New Deal, which I'm all for too, but it's not at the depth, and it does give them a trillion and a half dollar lift. | ||
| Let's talk about the plan first. | ||
| Your thoughts on that, and then let's get into where we actually stand in this process, because this week and next week are going to be quite a dogfight. | ||
| Let me zoom in on that specific point about the merits of it. | ||
| So my plan to get to balance in 10 years was $10 trillion in savings over 10 years. | ||
| It wasn't $10 trillion in the first year. | ||
| And so what this plan, the reason I support it is because if you're thinking about how in divided government, where you pick the fight, you pick it on the woke and weaponized bureaucracy. | ||
| And of my plan, we had $3 trillion in discretionary savings. | ||
| That's what this plan does. | ||
| This goes, it puts hard caps in law every year and forces the fight this year, has a $4.5 trillion total in cuts and savings, a trillion of it in the first year. | ||
| Things like cuts to the bureaucracy, the Inflation Reduction Act, Climate Green New Deal, student loan bailout, work requirements on food stamps and Medicaid, which I think is the best place to go to start on mandatory spending. | ||
| So that's, I think, setting the terms. | ||
| For going on offense, and I think the clips you're showing is the cartel and the regime media getting their handle over what they didn't expect to happen. | ||
| They thought that McCarthy would never govern from the right and put on the floor as the first opening salvo a package that would get people like me to support it. | ||
| And he's got the moderates on board. | ||
| Because you have other people out there like Judd, Greg, and I did have to laugh just because of the just clear ridiculousness of talking about commissions and nonsense when the real fight is the bureaucracy and for the first time in a generation we have a chance to go after that with the leverage point of the debt limit. | ||
| Let's just go back through that. | ||
| I want to make sure you walk everybody through so that they're aware of this. | ||
| Let's talk about the down because everything we talked about is no increase in the debt ceiling at all. | ||
| But the types of cuts you need in year one that if you do it appropriately, you don't even bump up to the debt ceiling. | ||
| You can do your prioritization of payments schedule and we get home free. | ||
| It's tough. It's got to be managed. | ||
| Treasury is going to whine about it constantly, but it's doable. | ||
| That's what we have to do in a bankruptcy. | ||
| This is essentially what we've got. | ||
| Walk through the elements of McCarthy's plan block by block so people can actually understand where these cuts are coming from. | ||
| Sure. First and foremost is the $3.5 trillion in cuts to discretionary spending, which is the normal government spending that is funding the agencies, the woke and the weaponized bureaucracy. | ||
| That's only $130 billion, $150 billion in the first year, depending on where defense lands. | ||
| It's about $150 billion. | ||
| But over 10 years, that's $3.5 trillion. | ||
| That, in my mind, is the biggest fight. | ||
| That is what I'm most excited about. | ||
| But you also have about $271 billion in repeal to the Inflation Reduction Act. | ||
| You get sizable amounts by eliminating the student loan bailout, which amounts to about 75 basis points that the Fed would otherwise have to raise rates. | ||
| You have repealing all the unobligated COVID money. | ||
| You have the repeal of the IRS expansion for the agents to go into middle-class Americans and people with companies under their own name. | ||
| It's very hard to come up with a package that would be this good There is a lot that we need to do to get our fiscal house in order, including going after the non-Social Security, Medicare mandatory programs. | ||
| But where do we want to start the debate and have Biden in a position where he can't get out of the canyon without doing what we need to do? | ||
| I believe this gets that job done. | ||
| And let me just speak a little bit to the notion of, do you have to increase it at all? | ||
| From a standpoint of preventing default, no, you do not. | ||
| Biden could ensure with revenues coming in that he could pay interest and principal on the debt. | ||
| But beyond that, it does get lumpy as to do you have enough on the month by month to be able to deal with defense, Social Security, Medicare, veterans. | ||
| And so that's the reason why you use the leverage points to be able to get your wins across. | ||
| The lumpiness is why you need some version of a debt limit. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that the initial strategy we've had from day one, which is you're not getting a debt limit because we have enough to ensure the full faith and credit of the United States. | ||
| You are not getting that unless you go forward and pass our cuts. | ||
| So that is why I believe this merits the support of House Republicans, and I think they'll get that later this week. | ||
| Okay, let me just go back to that. | ||
| This gets to be the shift in nomenclature we warn people about in Janet Yellen. | ||
| When she keeps saying you have to pay your bills, you have to pay your bills. | ||
| Keeping the full faith and credit of the U.S. government and paying off their securities, the interest and the face amount, are very different than paying contractors that in any bankruptcy you've got to stretch. | ||
| So I want to go back just to the lumpiness. | ||
| Has Treasury... Given you their best case, I understand it may not be accurate, totally accurate, right? | ||
| Because money's going to come in on tax, you know, people paying their taxes, etc. | ||
| But has Treasury come forward and presented in this process anything that you can actually look at and say, okay, let's look at the lumpiness. | ||
| And if it is lumpy, then maybe you do. | ||
| Maybe there is an argument for giving a slight increase. | ||
| But have they come forward and shown any mathematical model, any financial model to McCarthy's people or yourself or any of the people working on this, that you can actually ascertain what their best thinking is of the lumpiness of how cash comes in? | ||
| No, and that's going to be something that we need to continue to call on them for. | ||
| What we have is historical models and a sense of how this has worked on a month-by-month basis throughout the year. | ||
| And some of the third-party groups out there that work on this is their number one issue. | ||
| And so that's the debate that we need to have. | ||
| And I believe that Republicans, once they've passed this, they are now in the ability to say, we're going to go over. | ||
| We're going to go over the next day. | ||
| You haven't given us the finals. | ||
| We've put forth a plan. | ||
| You haven't chosen to negotiate. | ||
| And they have that ability to do that and have that long extended debate and have the country be on their side because they have put forward a plan to deal with our fiscal house and get it in order. | ||
| Let me go back to two things, just so people—I understand that people understand it. | ||
| Matt Gaetz has been on here talking about the work requirements. | ||
| You've been talking about the work requirements. | ||
| Matt has said that that's another trillion dollars to fully implement, another trillion dollars over the 10 years, but big cuts in the first two years. | ||
| Is that included in the $3.5 trillion or $4.5 trillion? | ||
| Is that fully baked in all the work requirement cuts? | ||
| Because remember, if people don't meet the work requirements, the obligation goes away. | ||
| So is that already baked in the $4.5 trillion, or would that be something on top of? | ||
| There is a work requirement savings in that $4.5 trillion. | ||
| I think it's about $130 billion. | ||
| The trillion dollars To get to that level of savings, you have to really begin to reform Medicaid as I proposed and get people who are adults without children off of the Medicaid program. | ||
| So to get to those larger numbers, you've got to tackle Medicaid, which our budget does. | ||
| And that's why the president has attacked me personally about it. | ||
| And we're happy to have that debate. | ||
| But this package does include those work requirements, which is a very, very important debate to have. | ||
| And I think it's one of the things that I know Matt pushed forward in this package and I'm glad he did because we need to have that debate about how to get people off of the sidelines and off of the social safety net. | ||
| Let me ask you about that. | ||
| Is Medicaid, even in his $130 billion, he doesn't have the whole trade, but in his $130 billion, do you have to have legislative changes to Medicaid to get that, or can you do that in this budgeting and then appropriations process? | ||
| Or is it like Medicare, and we understand Medicare and Social Security off the table. | ||
| Is Medicaid already baked into law, or is it just federal regulations that we could take care of it in this process? | ||
| So, Medicaid is part of this package and part of this work requirement that's a statutory law that overrides the current auto program of Medicaid, which works like Medicare. | ||
| But also, it was going to need to be something that we take a look at throughout the next few years for purposes of getting the massive amount of spending that that program has and getting it Let me just go back to one thing you said, Steve, about the notion of default. | ||
| You're absolutely right that the full faith and credit of paying interest in principle is not the same as timely payment of every one of Tony Fauci's grants to the Wuhan Institute. | ||
| That's the debate they're going to want to have. | ||
| They're going to want to argue about the meaning of default, and we've just got to call them on it and just say, you're playing word games. | ||
| No, I think this is very important. | ||
| That's why we played Janet Yellen last week. | ||
| They've shifted the conversation. | ||
| They keep going, oh, you have to pay your bills. | ||
| Well, paying your bills is very different than the full faith and credit of the United States. | ||
| Absolutely, you have to make all the interest payments. | ||
| You have to make any principal payments, particularly stuff that's going to roll over. | ||
| But then you get down to the discretionary part of this, and particularly discretionary, some of these social welfare programs. | ||
| You know, absolutely you can extend it. | ||
| People do this in bankruptcies all the time. | ||
| Russ, I know you've got to bounce, but just hang on. | ||
| I've got a couple more questions after the break. | ||
| We're kicking off the week where this huge, massive debate's going to be. | ||
| We want to make sure the Warren Posse is fully up to speed on all the inside baseball. | ||
| Also, Frank Gaffney and Karen Siegman. | ||
| We had this amazing conference over the weekend, World War III, the early years. | ||
| We're going to frame what happened and talk about, all week, we're going to be rolling out content from it. | ||
| Short commercial break. Russ Vogt, Frank Gaffney, Karen Siegman on the other side. | ||
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Russ, the... | |
| Are these, because you've been, the reason people love you and you come on here, by the way, we got Jeff Clark on in the second hour and he was amazing on the show on Saturday talking about the EPA and the electric vehicle and all this madness that's going on. | ||
| Your group just does such a great job of being very straightforward with people. | ||
| Is this cuts, real cuts, or are we just in the game of cutting cuts? | ||
| The rate of spending. I see we're going to go back to 2022 numbers, but that was increases over past years. | ||
| It's one of the arguments against them. | ||
| And then we're talking about slower growth rates. | ||
| So in your mind, are we getting to real cuts here in the Leviathan's budget, sir? | ||
| This is real cuts. | ||
| This is going back to a 20 % cut on non-defense, which I have to explain that. | ||
| When you keep Department of Homeland Security a little bit higher, you keep veteran spending, that's a non-defense agency. | ||
| What does that amount to? | ||
| That amounts to 30 % cuts to Department of Education, the Department of CRT. That amounts to 30 % cuts to the NIH, which is funding Tony Fauci's gain-of-function research. | ||
| CDC that promulgated the pandemic that we know and bled for as a nation. | ||
| 50 % cuts to foreign aid, basically just leaving real diplomacy in place that you don't have Bob Dylan statutes in Mozambique or funding gay activists in Senegal, LGBT activists in Senegal. | ||
| Over and over, you have examples of woken, weaponized government that would get rid of if we have a fight this year. | ||
| That's $150 billion in the standpoint of trillions of dollars. | ||
| It doesn't sound like that much, but that's what looks like 30 % cuts to these agencies that will deal with A mortal blow to the bureaucracy. | ||
| And then you cap that and have only a slight growth that allows you to be able to keep funding defense or have closer to flat levels of funding for defense. | ||
| You grow that for 10 years, and you get $3.5 trillion of savings. | ||
| Now, is that savings on the basis of how Washington, D.C. shows numbers? | ||
| Yes, it is. | ||
| But the way that Washington, D.C. also shows numbers is partly how we know we have $1 trillion and upwards of $2 trillion in deficits. | ||
| And so we work within the current system. | ||
| Part of it is totally screwed up based on anyone who's coming from a business or a normal field of accounting anywhere else. | ||
| But we present to you the realness of those cuts and the best way to account for them. | ||
| And we have $4.5 trillion of savings in this, I believe. | ||
| And we're excited about that. | ||
| And I think that's what people need to know. | ||
| Yes, you're giving up something. | ||
| You're giving up something. | ||
| But what are you getting for in the standpoint of leverage when Biden needs this to pass? | ||
| And if you're on the other side, and I love coming in here and getting skeptics because we need more skeptics in this country. | ||
| The reason why I think you put forward something now is because if you hold back constantly and then the markets spook, you're only going to have two or three people that hold the line. | ||
| You've got to be able to put forward, this is what we are for, and if that is what you're for is actually what's needed to get the country in the right direction, I believe it is, now you've got the moral high ground to be able to fight over the next several months with Biden. | ||
| And this will be a running fight all the way through 2024, the way it's structured. | ||
| Russ, where do people, can they go to your site and actually get the breakdown in your language of exactly what we're talking about? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. They go to americarenewing.com. | ||
| We have a fact sheet on the package, and they get my statements, and they can, of course, get me at all the social media channels at atrustvote. | ||
| And particularly Getter and on Twitter, you're up all the time. | ||
| I know that I'm with the hardcore war room. | ||
| We're still not give a penny and do Russ votes, prioritization of payments and massive cuts. | ||
| But I'd like at least I like the direction of we're taking a stand and telling the moderates it can't be any commissions. | ||
| We've got to stop all the nonsense. | ||
| I just think that you give them the million and a half. | ||
| Or next May, whatever comes first, given the collapse of the economy, it's going to be up on us again. | ||
| If you prove this, we're going to be back at this right after the appropriations process. | ||
| So the good news is we put this front and center. | ||
| We also have to make sure they can't... | ||
| You know, start to blame, oh, the economy is slowing down because of this. | ||
| The economy is not slowing down because of this. | ||
| One of the reasons it's so tough to get to a deal here is because the economy is imploding. | ||
| They just put 11 banks, Moody's just downgraded 11 banks and put them on watch regional banks because of the Biden disaster. | ||
| So it's a disaster across the board. | ||
| Russ, one more time, where do they go? | ||
| Where do they go to find out your breakdown of this McCarthy plan? | ||
| Americarenewing.com is our website, and we'll do everything we can to highlight that breakdown on the site so people can find it. | ||
| Russ, fantastic. Last question. | ||
| When do you think the voting will start? | ||
| Do you think the end of this week, early next week? | ||
| Wednesday or Thursday. It'll happen this week, assuming he has the votes and some folks are still coming home. | ||
| But it's probably Thursday, but possibly Wednesday. | ||
| Russ Vogt, thank you. | ||
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Honored to have you on here. Thanks, Steve. | |
| 202-225-3121 is the house. | ||
| 202-224-3121 is the Senate. | ||
| We want everybody to call now and to give your two cents. | ||
| Maybe go to Russ's site and look at the proposal McCarthy has. | ||
| I'm still a hardcore. | ||
| Don't give him an inch. Don't give him a penny. | ||
| Make him fight for this. | ||
| I think there is even a better deal out there, and we've got to drive this. | ||
| We've got to drive a stake in the heart of the administrative state, and we have to start now. | ||
| And it's all chips on the table because this is going to be incredibly important to vote this week. | ||
| We've got to make sure our voices are heard. | ||
| But go check Russ's out. I think Russ makes a lot of great comments about Kevin McCarthy's got a very difficult job herding all the cats. | ||
| We just got to make sure they have an anchor here, an anchor to Windward, and that is the war room, right? | ||
| That's our job is to make sure that we're... | ||
| Not just understand it, but take the hardest line possible. | ||
| Frank, so there's a very special event over the weekend. | ||
| There's really the start of a process to inform our fellow citizens, not just MAGA, but our fellow citizens about, you know, we're like in 1938 or 37 or 38. | ||
| Back in the 20th century, and it was only Churchill was out there then. | ||
| We have a whole team of people out there, some of the greatest voices and thinkers in our movement. | ||
| We had World War III the early years by the American Freedom Alliance. | ||
| Cameron was on Saturday. Frank, you were one of the keynote speakers. | ||
| Give us your assessment, particularly the fact that this is just firing off the football. | ||
| Every day this week, we're going to be taking parts of the conference and actually laying them out to people so they can become force multipliers. | ||
| Give me your assessment. You've done this for a long time. | ||
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Give me your assessment of the weekend. First of all, let me just say I thoroughly appreciate that maritime reference to an anchor to Windward. | |
| That is what the War Room is, Steve, and God bless you for being it. | ||
| And thank you for essentially helping Karen Sigmund, the fabulous director of our American Freedom Alliance, to conceive of this program. | ||
| It was really, I call it War Room West. | ||
| The all-star cast from the War Room national security team in place. | ||
| Everybody was on their game. | ||
| Karen, of course, does a great program, but she helped the rest of us, I think, make the kinds of points, Steve, about where we are. | ||
| I noted that maybe it's the early years of World War III. Maybe it's the only years. | ||
| of World War III. She also gave me a wonderful opportunity to, let's see if I can get this in focus, promote the War Room book. | ||
| One, it's not showing up because it's blurred for some reason, but it's the indictment and we talked about it a lot. | ||
| A lot of people bought the sneak previews, in fact, of the book, which, of course, as you know, Steve, as you have given us the foreword as well as the imprimatur of the War Room, It is the book that explains the indictment that can help us take down the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
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I'm with you on trying to do it without firing a shot. | |
| We did it once before with the last totalitarian communist regime that sought the destruction of this country, the Soviet Union, thanks to Ronald Reagan. | ||
| The strategy we are pursuing here Promoted by the counterpart to the Committee on the Present Danger of Reagan's years is the Committee on the Present Danger China's strategy of using delegitimization and the actions of both indicting in the court of public opinion at a minimum this transnational criminal organization and better yet taking a series of 20 Identified, | ||
| actionable steps that are needed, starting with ending the travesty of having the elite capture of America's top leaders across our country's business, finance, academic, media, culture, and of course political elites. | ||
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Steve, you were on your game as well, I want to say. | |
| It was very disappointing, of course, that you couldn't be there in person, and despite some technical difficulties. | ||
| Your Q&A, particularly with the posse that was very much in evidence out there, was really the piece de resistance of the whole program, and I just want to thank you and thank Karen for letting me be part of it. | ||
| I was proud to be so. Frank, you're amazing. | ||
| Give social media how they get to your site and how they get to the book. | ||
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The social media is Gaffney, at, on all the platforms. | |
| It is also securefreedom.org, presentdangerchina.org, and securingamerica.tv. | ||
| The indictment is the book. | ||
| Frank Gaffney, thank you. Karen Siegerman, Colonel Derek Harvey next. | ||
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Okay, welcome back. | |
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| Also, I really want to thank... | ||
| We're going to figure out how to do something special for everybody who came, although we're in posse, that came to L.A. this weekend. | ||
| So hopefully we'll be getting out to California sometime, maybe in June. | ||
| We'll figure it out. We'll get a date. | ||
| But I really appreciate everybody showing up, and I really appreciate everybody coming to me and saying, hey, When are you going to start doing the afternoon show again? | ||
| Natalie is fabulous. | ||
| She does an incredible job. | ||
| But I had meetings last week, and starting today, I'll be back on double duty doing the five and the six. | ||
| We've got some very special stuff going on. | ||
| Natalie's going to be doing a bunch of special reports for us, particularly on these investigations that are going on in Capitol Hill. | ||
| We also have some... | ||
| She may be making some changes here to actually make our coverage in Washington, D.C. even sharper. | ||
| We'll get to all that later in the week. | ||
| I want to bring in Karen Siegeman now from the American Freedom Alliance. | ||
| Incredible. I never could envision it would be this great, the World War III, the early years. | ||
| It was needed to kind of set the intellectual framework. | ||
| For our construct of what's actually going on, it was so powerful. | ||
| And I really want to thank the Warren Posse that showed up. | ||
| The feedback I got from people was just incredible. | ||
| So Karen, the key is just because it's a conference, now we're really going to start. | ||
| We're going to start pushing out the content. | ||
| We're going to start pushing out the speaker. | ||
| Why don't you go through what your assessment is of the opening weekend of this process? | ||
| Of informing the folks in the United States, the Chinese Communist Party has already started coming to war with us in World War III. And quite frankly, this will be a global conflict. | ||
| Unless we start getting very focused right now, both foreign and domestic, that this is a conflict we actually could lose, ma'am. | ||
| I have to say it was an absolutely astounding weekend. | ||
| It would have been an astounding weekend wherever we had held it. | ||
| The fact that it was in Los Angeles just made it extra, I don't know, poignant in a way, delicious in another way. | ||
| To be, you know, we all living here, we sort of feel we're behind enemy lines. | ||
| And for so many of us, we had well over 200 people, close to 300 people converging on Los Angeles for this purpose to learn about or to learn more about. | ||
| World War III, as you had framed it, the early years, and I heard Frank say, and he had said this at the event, maybe it's the only years, and this is exactly the issue. | ||
| We have to make sure that we recognize that we have, in fact, been at war, or at least they have been at war with us. | ||
| And the issue is too many of us have not even been aware that we're already losing a fight, or even worse, that our The elite capture by the CCP of the United States governance, many of our industries and so on, they've already been captured and already been playing for the other side. | ||
| So the point of the conference was to highlight the threat of this, the direness of this threat, the urgency of acting, of making sure that not only the people in the room, but the As you had noted, the American people generally, and also this is global, this isn't American War III, this is World War III, and they've been waiting for some time. | ||
| Many of the points that were made, yes, it's China, wars don't look the way they always had, and we need to be very cognizant of that. | ||
| The very notion of unrestricted warfare is key. | ||
| When you've already lost and you haven't even been aware that you're fighting That's one of the nature aspects of unrestricted warfare. | ||
| To address that, we had General Robert Spalding, who wrote Stealth War, which is a great description going into more detail and more accessible of the two Chinese colonels, I believe, who wrote the book Unrestricted Warfare, and that includes absolutely everything. | ||
| But the entire range of speakers that we had were absolutely the A-team on national security, On the economy, we added Ed Dowd. | ||
| On AI, we had Joe Allen. | ||
| We had Rima Lebo on health security. | ||
| So we touched on whatever you can do in two days. | ||
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We really packed an unbelievable amount of information in there. | |
| And we gave our speakers generally about half an hour to really develop their Their view, their vision, their thoughts about the threats that we've been facing, starting with Frank Gaffney, who you just had on, which was fabulous. | ||
| So here's what we're going to do. | ||
| We're going to get clips. | ||
| All week, we're going to put clips out and have the actual speakers on. | ||
| We're going to develop this and then push it on social media. | ||
| The first thing is to make sure all the war room policy is fully up to speed on this. | ||
| Once we have that, then the concentric ring goes out to the rest of the conservatives and Republicans and then to your neighbors and your friends, and they will be, I think, quite absorbed by this. | ||
| So this is going to be a massive effort. | ||
| Over the summer, every day, because there's so many different aspects of this. | ||
| Everything from fentanyl coming across. | ||
| John Mills has got a plan to interdict the fentanyl traffic down with the Mexican cartels. | ||
| People have ways to go economic warfare and defeat this and clean out Wall Street. | ||
| There's other people talking about the... | ||
| The woke and weaponized administrative state that's been infiltrated. | ||
| It's the universities. It's all of us. | ||
| So this is a multi-front, multi-dimensional. | ||
| And I tell people the three things. | ||
| To me, it's about the scale of it. | ||
| It's a global conflict from Brazil to the Caribbean. | ||
| Number two is the urgency of it. | ||
| We're already in the first couple of years, so they've declared war on us. | ||
| And the other is uniqueness of it in that never before has the United States been faced with a conflict where not an insignificant part of our elites... | ||
| They call it elite capture. | ||
| I almost think it's elite merger. | ||
| Our leading institutions are essentially in partnership or nothing less than a fifth column working with the enemy. | ||
| That's the scale and the complexity of this, and that's why I was so proud of the... | ||
| So how can people... | ||
| Where do they go right now to find out more? | ||
| We had the great one-sheet, but I know we're getting clips out. | ||
| We're going to have... In fact, Brian Kennedy is going to join us in the afternoon show... | ||
| Where do we go right now? | ||
| Where do people go right now to get more information? | ||
| Go to AmericanFreedomAlliance.org and we'll be putting our videos up on Rumble. | ||
| I'll be posting things on Getter. | ||
| The clips will be coming up shortly, but we also put up the entire content again on Rumble. | ||
| The range of speakers was astounding. | ||
| We'll be making, of course, more Clips that have greater punch rather than the entire thing. | ||
| All of it will be up there on our Rumble Channel, American Freedom Alliance. | ||
| And yeah, you know, the urgency. | ||
| That's the panel that Frank Gaffney led at the very end. | ||
| You see Brian Kennedy, General Spalding, Trevor Loudon, and Dave Walsh talking. | ||
| This was the concluding panel talking about what do we do now, which I think is, you know, key to all of this. | ||
| And I love that we're going to be Releasing this over the summer, over a longer period, because when you think about two days to cover World War III, we did a tremendous job, I have to say, for two days, and it's great for that to be just the beginning. | ||
| It's like an introductory chapter to a big, very serious book, but we're going to get into all of it. | ||
| By the way, I just want to make an aside before I bring Derek Harvey in. | ||
| When I did Q&A, and I did about an hour of Q&A, they had a little technical problem, but I did Q&A, which I think people will hear. | ||
| I want to make sure people understand this. | ||
| Somebody asked about Robert F. Kennedy and the great speech at Hillsdown, his opening speech, and what did I think about his prospects? | ||
| And I said, look, I'm a Carrie Lake person, but if Carrie Lake Is, you know, becomes governor as she should if this court case or if not, she runs for the Senate. | ||
| If she's not available to be Trump's VP, that Bobby Kennedy would be, I think, be an excellent choice for President Trump to consider. | ||
| It was a standing ovation. | ||
| I think that that, I think people, and this was a hardcore, this was a very hardcore MAGA war room posse crowd. | ||
| I think that that is a signal to the political elites in this country that something very different is going on. | ||
| And that was quite extraordinary. | ||
| But Karen, Thank you. | ||
| Look forward to having you back on and all the speakers this week and next week. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you for doing it. Extraordinary event, World War III, the early years by the American Freedom Alliance. | ||
| Like I said, Brian Kennedy is going to join me. | ||
| This afternoon, Brian's going to be in the 5 o'clock show. | ||
| I think we're actually going to be in the 5 o'clock. | ||
| We'll get into it all. | ||
| Also, Todd Bensman. I think we're trying to get Todd for the 6th. | ||
| I've got Derek Harvey. | ||
| Derek, breaking news, and I know we've got things to go through with you. | ||
| Remember, Derek was at the—first off, he was over there as the senior guy for Devin Nunes on the House Intelligence Committee, and then he was in the White House on the National Security Council for President Trump and as one of the most revered individuals in the U.S. Army. | ||
| In particular, the work he did in Iraq to kind of save us there. | ||
| Derek, it's just announced Susan Rice is stepping down from the White House just a couple days before Biden announces his candidacy. | ||
| Give us your assessment of what's not just Susan Rice, the person, but what she represents as far as the administrative state in the deep state, sir. | ||
| Well, I think Susan Rice... | ||
| I've been looking at this and trying to figure out who's been really one of the key consiglieres for everything that is being orchestrated from the Biden White House. | ||
| I think that she's kept a very low profile for the last two and a half years, but she's been absolutely critical to shaping and pushing the Biden agenda, whether it's across the economic domain, the pushed to partner with China on electric vehicles and shifting and dramatically changing our economic basis and the capitalist structure in our country and the overreach on the regulation. | ||
| Now, why is she leaving now? | ||
| I don't know. There have been a number of things that have dropped and I just wonder, I'm speculating right now, is there something that might be about to drop in the news? | ||
| About her ties to something that our congressional investigators are digging into that goes back to her role during some of the shenanigans in the Obama administration or working with the Biden team. | ||
| She's been absolutely critical, and she's so closely tied with the Obama team and has been involved in a number of foreign policy roles in the past, too. | ||
| So I don't know what's going on. | ||
| Derek, when people say that Biden is really the third term and the more radical term of Obama, what they're talking about is Susan Rice. | ||
| I mean, Susan Rice is like Eric Holder. | ||
| Eric Holder and Susan Rice were the... | ||
| Two senior advisors to President Obama, and she was both international affairs, national security, and now she's had her hands in everything. | ||
| She's the poster girl for the administrative slash deep state. | ||
| Am I wrong on that? No, you're absolutely correct. | ||
| And she represents that Obama wing of the Democrat Party that still has firm control over the Biden White House and what is going on by the Biden administration right now. | ||
| The other wing is the Hillary Clinton wing and the old Bill Clinton wing of the party. | ||
| Which is at its low ebb, I think, right now within the party. | ||
| And she represents that tie to the Obama team, which really has been orchestrating everything. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short break. | ||
| Colonel Derek Harvey is going to join us on the other side. | ||
| We also have Jeff Clark. | ||
| We're going to talk more about these unbelievable regulations coming out on really a radical transformation of American society and culture around the economy and net zero carbon. | ||
| Also, he's going to give us a report about East Palestine, Ohio. | ||
| A lot more to go through. Back in a moment, Colonel Derek Harvey in the war room. | ||
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| Look, I think Governor Sanchez is doing a very good job as governor. | ||
| My recommendation is that he should finish that and get ready for 2028. | ||
| Of course, he and President Trump are into it now with his back and forth about Florida and about all that. | ||
| But today, I think he's leaving. | ||
| In a couple of days, he's leaving for a trip to Israel and then Japan and Korea. | ||
| It's just bad timing. | ||
| It's a bad look. I understand you want to go over and be able to say, hey, burnish my credentials by going over and cutting trade deals or talking about deals for Florida, but it's just a bad look, particularly given where everybody is right now in this primary and what's going on. | ||
| I think it's just a bad look. | ||
| And one of the hits is that you don't have enough international experience. | ||
| You're not going to get it by some ridiculous quick and dirty, go shake a few hands in South Korea, go shake a few hands in South Korea. | ||
| That takes a long time of involvement and engagement and understanding what's actually going on here. | ||
| And I think the way that you saw the flip-flopping on Ukraine, I thought the first part about Ukraine was fantastic, but you see the flip-flopping in Ukraine, it's going to take a lot more study, a lot more thinking. | ||
| You just can't wing this. | ||
| We're in the early days of the Third World War. | ||
| A war has been declared on us by our enemies and are being supported by a fifth column here in this country. | ||
| The Larry Finks of the world, the Wall Street Titans, Sequoia Capital, the venture capitalist. | ||
| A guy who knows that better than anybody is Colonel Derek Harvey. | ||
| He's one of the brightest guys in the America First movement, somebody that President Trump is really dependent upon and someone will play a... | ||
| A huge role in the second term. | ||
| Colonel Harvey, she's Susan Rice as being a poster girl for the administrative state in the deep state. | ||
| Just define that for the audience, because I want to talk about how you have this interlinking thing of consultants, venture capitalists, financiers, big tech, all of it, that all kind of work in unison. | ||
| So walk us through it, sir. Well, I think we've had, you know, over the last eight years, a pretty good inside out game by the Democrat Party. | ||
| The DNC, the campaigns, and this government in exile where Democrats land in places like Beacon Global Strategies or the Atlantic Council or Brookings or one of the other think tanks around D.C. or even at University of Pennsylvania where Biden and his team planted the flag. | ||
| When you look at this, let's just use the example of Beacon Global Strategies. | ||
| Now, seven of the signers of those 51 former Intel people who signed that letter saying that the Post story about the Hunter laptop was Russian disinformation, seven of those people came from Beacon Global Strategies to include current Secretary of State Blinken, Mike Morrell, Andy Shapiro, Jeremy Bash, a number of other people. | ||
| Then you look at who these people are and who they're married to, this inside-out game. | ||
| Secretary Blinken's wife worked for Vice President Biden when he was Vice President. | ||
| She ran his campaign in 2008, his failed presidential campaign. | ||
| She works in the current Biden White House. | ||
| This is Secretary Blinken's wife. | ||
| She worked for the Clinton Global Foundation and was the scheduling secretary for First Lady Clinton. | ||
| If you looked at Peter Strzok inside the FBI or Lisa Monaco, let's go back to Peter Strzok for example. | ||
| Peter Strzok's wife is head of enforcement for the Securities and Exchange Commission. | ||
| She's the one that's investigating and holding up the Trump Social Financial Organization progress and access and the merger that they're going through. | ||
| And this has been delayed by her for, what, 18 months now? | ||
| With no movement whatsoever. | ||
| These people are planted in these organizations around D.C. They're married to each other, they're In the same groups, look at Lisa Monaco and the FBI. She and people like her at DOJ are not enforcing American law. | ||
| Commerce Secretary Gensler is not enforcing American law against China. | ||
| Why? Because the donor class for the Democrat Party and some of the elite Republicans are tied, are benefiting from Chinese investments, Chinese influence. | ||
| Contributions to universities or their funds, they're given special access to investments in China that profit them. | ||
| Whether it's Sequoia Capital or BlackRock, it's part of a club and they're in a movement. | ||
| And they don't care about American security, in my view, just like Karen said, who talked about the weekend briefings that you guys went through. | ||
| Steve, you go back to this inside-out game. | ||
| We saw this inside-out game during the Obama administration. | ||
| Using the FBI, the CIA, and other organizations to start an investigation of Trump under false pretenses. | ||
| And using elements of the Patriot Act to enable them to go into secret courts under false pretenses, perjured themselves, and no accountability. | ||
| They tried the same thing against Bernie Sanders in 2016. | ||
| The Hillary campaign was behind this effort with the Obama administration and the inside-out game to go after Trump. | ||
| We saw this inside-out game with the New York Post story and other things. | ||
| We also see this inside-out game going on with the January 6th issue. | ||
| One could talk at length about what we're learning on January 6th, but I'll stop there. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| I'll tell you what, let us take a break because I want to come back. | ||
| I want to talk about who's under whose purview, because this has to be investigated already. | ||
| Hunter Biden's lawyers, Abby Lowell, are all over one of Peter Navarro's assistants for putting up some material that's broken over the weekend. | ||
| They're all over MTG. They're trying to bring ethics charges against her. | ||
| It's where the investigative center of gravity exists. | ||
| Colonel Derek Harvey, formerly of the House Intel Committee and the National Security Council under President Trump, join us after a short commercial break. |
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