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April 21, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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WarRoom Battleground EP 278: The Case For Pro-Life
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terry schilling
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liz wheeler
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
donald j trump
War Room. Battleground.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
chris wallace
Mr. Trump, your reaction, and particularly on this issue of late-term partial birth?
donald j trump
Well, I think it's terrible if you go with what Hillary is saying.
In the ninth month, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb of the mother just prior to the birth of the baby.
Now, you can say that that's okay, and Hillary can say that that's okay, but it's not okay with me.
Because based on what she's saying and based on where she's going and where she's been, you can take the baby and rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month on the final day.
And that's not acceptable.
hillary clinton
Well, that is not what happens in these cases.
And using that kind of Scare rhetoric is just terribly unfortunate.
You should meet with some of the women that I've met with, women I've known over the course of my life.
This is one of the worst possible choices that any woman and her family has to make.
And I do not believe the government should be making it.
You know, I've had the great honor of traveling across the world on behalf of our country.
I've been to countries where governments either forced women to have abortions, like they used to do in China, or forced women to bear children, like they used to do in Romania.
And I can tell you the government has no business In the decisions that women make with their families, in accordance with their faith, with medical advice, and I will stand up for that right.
donald j trump
All right. Just briefly, I want to move on to another segment.
And honestly, nobody has business doing what I just said, doing that as late as one or two or three or four days prior to birth.
Nobody has that. All right.
terry schilling
Welcome, welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the War Room.
It is April 21st, 2023, in the year of our Lord.
My name is Terry Schilling, and I'm the president of American Principles Project, but more relevantly, I am guest hosting and trying to do the impossible, which is fill the enormous and incredible shoes of the great Stephen K. Bannon.
We've got a great show lined up for you today, and frankly, I'm very excited to be here.
It's great always to talk to the War Room audience.
You guys are An incredible force in this country and in politics.
Frankly, I want to talk today a specific address to President Trump.
And it's important to have this conversation because you don't always get this.
And I know that President Trump watches this show.
I'm one of his biggest fans.
My organization, with a lot of the help from the War Room, we spent over $4 million in 2020 trying to help him get reelected.
And my goal in 2024 is to spend 20 to 25 million.
So I want to take this opportunity, though, to talk about what President Trump said about the issue of abortion and the lack of a federal role.
Abortion has obviously been in the news a lot lately, especially in the wake of the midterms.
Abortion was blamed for why we lost, and in some ways that's true.
The reality of the situation is that we did lose a lot of seats because of the issue of abortion, but it wasn't because our positions are unpopular with the American people.
It's quite the opposite. It's because we didn't defend ourselves against the Democrat assaults and onslaught against our children in the womb.
Democrats outspent us $500 million to $50 million, an absurd amount of money, 10 to 1.
And they branded the Republicans as a party that wanted to put women in jail.
They wanted them to die over abortion.
They didn't want to protect their lives.
And the Republican response was nothing.
We ignored it, many cases.
The Democratic Party was able to brand the Republicans in conjunction with the mainstream media.
And because of that, President Trump is coming out and saying not great things about the pro-life movement.
In fact, he's now saying that he doesn't believe that there's a federal role in abortion, which is odd, because the people that say that there's no federal role in abortion are typically the billionaire donor class, And Mitch McConnell and his crew, as you could call them.
So I want to take this moment to address President Trump directly.
President Trump, you have done more for the pro-life movement than anyone that's ever been president.
Roe v. Wade was overturned by you.
We had the amazing decision in Dobbs.
States are moving all across the country to protect the unborn.
But I think that you're being given the wrong advice on this issue.
Your speech, your moment in that 2016 debate against Hillary Clinton was one of the most beautiful and amazing defining moments in American political history.
I think that it was not just defining in the moment of the debate over the pro-life movement.
I think it was also defining in the success of your reelection.
The pro-life movement has been incredibly loyal to you, and you've been incredibly loyal back.
And the reason I wanted to address you today is because I think you're making a mistake.
I want you to have all the success in the world, and I really want you to consider the reality of the situation that we're in, which is that there's always going to be a federal role in abortion.
There is no situation in which the left ever stops using the federal government to stop promoting and pushing abortion policies.
They use our funding, our tax dollars, every single day to fund abortions.
They're turning our vet clinics, our VA clinics, into abortion clinics.
They're weaponizing the Department of Education to push abortion education programs in the schools.
They're subsidizing this through Obamacare.
The left will never stop pushing abortion through the federal government.
The idea that there's not going to be a federal response from the Republicans is not just insane.
It's going to lead to a massive slaughter.
So I want to encourage you to return to your roots.
Reject the billionaire donor class.
Reject the Mitch McConnells of the world that tell you to stay away from this issue.
Because I'll tell you that the most unpopular position in this country regarding the debate around abortion is one in which only 23 % of Americans support, which is the Democrats' position of unrestricted access to abortion at any point in pregnancy.
When you compare that to an abortion law or abortion limit that limits abortion to the third trimester, the 20th week, the 15th week when the baby can feel pain, or even as aggressive as a heartbeat bill at six weeks limiting abortion to when the baby has a heartbeat, with exceptions, those numbers are incredibly in our favor.
Even with the heartbeat bill, it's 61 to 23 in Florida and in other states across the country.
We need to go on offense with the Democrats.
The reason we lost in the 2022 midterms is because we didn't attack our Democrat opponents on their extremism on abortion.
And it turned out to be an utter catastrophe.
We need to go on offense.
We need to include the exceptions if we want to have a success at passing legislation and getting reelected.
And so with that, I just want to encourage you, President Trump, we're your biggest fans, where you're going to be in your corner as long as you're in our corner.
And I think that you're making a mistake here by saying that there's no federal role in abortion policy.
So with that, I'm going to get off my soapbox and I'm going to tell you guys we have a great show.
We're going to bring on, the first person I'm going to bring on is a friend of mine named John O'Shea.
He is running for Congress in Texas.
He is a business owner.
He's an incredible man and I want to bring him on to talk about what's going on in Texas and the state of his campaign.
So John, how are things looking in Texas?
unidentified
Hey, Terry. Good to be on with you, and it's a real treat to be with the War Room Posse.
Things are looking good today.
Nice weather outside. Things are going all right.
But to your point, and speaking to President Trump earlier in your message, I think if there's one common theme or one kind of thread that's been throughout the War Room over the last two years is that our nation as a whole is on fire.
And it's unbelievable that a dichotomy of where we are today versus where we were just A few short years ago in 2019 under President Trump's leadership.
terry schilling
No, that's exactly right.
And I think the thing that's most puzzling to me is that there's been no president.
That has been more aggressive in the pursuit to protect the unborn children in this country.
I mean, without question, President Trump is responsible for overturning Roe and giving us the Dobbs decision.
There's no one else that can even get close to taking as much credit to that.
And I think the thing that's puzzling to me is the logic that the president responsible for nominating the justices that overturn Roe through the Dobbs decision He's not gonna be able to distance himself from abortion restrictions.
You're locked in. The only way out here is through.
So, John, what are you hearing from people locally about these issues?
What are some of the issues that are coming up on the campaign trail that you're hearing from voters and from people concerned in Texas?
unidentified
Well, you know, the interesting thing is we just filed a couple of weeks ago.
It's something that I knew in my heart that I was going to do.
I've been praying to God, you know, what to do to try and help serve and save this country.
Because I think it always sounds alarmist to say that the country's on the brink, but I see that we really truly have two different paths before us right now, one that leads to kind of the restoration of our country as the bright shining city on the hill back in God's good graces,
and the other one that just leads to this ultimate chaos of anarchistic rule through this authoritarian globalist woke That are trying to utterly change this country and initiate a whole new world order.
So it's funny. What I get asked is, what is one of the first things that I would like to do or see in Congress?
And candidly speaking, the first thing I need to do is win, because right now Texas has 38 congressional seats after the redistricting.
Of that, 25 of them are Republican and 13 are Democrat, but not all Republicans are created equal.
So to give you an idea, conservative review, which gives kind of their Liberty score, you know, not surprisingly, all 13 Democrats score an F. But egregiously, five of the Republicans also score an F, including the 14-term establishment incumbent that I'm running against right now.
And so, we need America First candidates.
What I think was shown by the 20 who held Kevin McCarthy's feet to the fire, and kudos for them because, you know, let's face it, you know, Speaker McCarthy has actually been the most conservative speaker since Newt Gingrich.
Candidly, I didn't know that he had it in him, but, you know, credit where credit's due.
But of those 20, three of them were freshman America First congressmen, you know, Eli Crane, Anna Paulina Luna and then Texas's own key self.
And frankly, we just need more of them.
As far as the issues, what do you think is going well in the country?
Because right now our sovereignty is being threatened with open borders and trying to join globalist organizations like the World Health Organization and the WEF or it's the cool kids in Davos A. WEF. I don't remember anybody here voting for Soros or For Bill Gates or for the Rockefeller Foundation, so why they have a say in things is beyond me.
Our economy's in shambles, and President Trump gave a perfect handoff to President Biden.
You took a look at our energy dominance, and now, right now, we're in an energy crisis.
You take a look at the soaring inflation, where things were in control when President Trump was in office.
Our foreign policies are shambles.
We had the Afghanistan debacle.
We're in the Ukraine war, whether we like to admit it or not.
And now we're on the brink of a potential additional war with China over Taiwan and the South China Sea.
Our civil rights are under attack.
Culturally, we're under attack, as you well know, because God bless you, brother.
You're a warrior pushing back on all this.
The three bulwarks against authoritarian rule.
Unbelievably, the progressive left liberals have become complete globalist authoritarians.
But it's love of God, it's love of family, and it's love of country.
And all three of those institutions are under attack.
And so I really appreciate what the American Principles Project does.
But, you know, lastly, and kind of what I see is just it's an all-out assault on our civil liberties.
I used to call myself a conservative, but frankly, there's nothing left to conserve.
They shut down our businesses and called us unessential.
They shuttered our churches and places of worship when we were actually in a spiritual crisis in a time of need.
They locked our kids out of churches.
They're censoring us.
The only right that they haven't infringed upon, but they're definitely coming for right now, is the Second Amendment.
And right now, I say I'm not a conservative.
I'm a restorer.
And I want to see us get back to our constitutional roots.
So that's why I, as you, want to do and see everything we can to get President Trump reelected, because he is the one candidate right now.
It's the America First movement.
It's his movement. He started it.
He showed us it was possible.
And he's the one person who I can think can actually take us back and restore our Constitution.
terry schilling
John, I got to keep the show running.
unidentified
Where can people find you? Yeah, it's important.
I apologize having to ask for support, but as you can imagine, the system's rigged for the incumbent, and I'm taking on a 14-term incumbent.
So if people can go to www.oshafertexas.com, any support would be appreciated.
I'm going to use my money, but unfortunately I'm not wealthy enough to take this on on my own.
And even if you don't live inside the district, the country needs as many America First candidates as possible in this next election cycle.
terry schilling
Amen to that, brother. And thank you so much, John, for joining us.
And we'll keep updating with you and keep you tied in.
So thanks so much for joining us.
unidentified
Pleasure to be on. Thanks, Terry.
terry schilling
Thanks, John. So the other thing I just want to point out, I didn't mention this, I should have.
John is someone who I met through the War Room.
He actually watches all four hours of the show.
So he's one of us that's actually going to Congress to I want to get to our next guest, though.
I ran into her last night at the Heritage event at Mount Vernon, and I've been a huge fan of her, and her name's Liz Wheeler.
You guys know her way better than me, even.
And she has some incredible stuff going on right now.
I think she's writing a book. She's giving a big speech.
So I wanted to bring her on to talk about the trans issue and just how much of a threat it is to this country.
So Liz Wheeler, thank you so much for joining the War Room.
Hope everything's going well.
liz wheeler
Hi, Terry. Thanks for having me.
I appreciate it. Of course.
terry schilling
So talk to us a little bit about the speech that you're planning to give and what's next on the pike for you and what's got you riled up about the trans movement because that keeps me up at night.
liz wheeler
Yeah, we were talking about this last night at Heritage.
I'm really excited to go to James Madison University this coming Wednesday.
It's April 26th.
I'm speaking on campus there with the Young America's Foundation.
The event is at 6 p.m.
Eastern. Highly recommend. If you're in the area, come join us.
It's open to the public. If you're not in the area, you can livestream it.
You can go to YAF TV, their YouTube channel, and watch it.
It's really interesting because in advance of this event, we've had an incredible backlash from trans activists on campus who have condemned me coming to the school, condemned my speech.
The title of the speech, by the way, and this is the reason they're condemning it, of course, is the ideology of transgenderism.
I'm going to this campus, not to be bombastic, not to be sensationalist.
I'm going because there's a proposition that I want to put before these students, especially the trans activists.
I want to tell them, I don't hate you.
Obviously, I care deeply about you.
That's why I'm coming. That's why I'm putting myself in this position and coming to speak with you.
At the same time, the other side, the trans activists, the queer theorists, if you were, they're also telling gender dysphoric youth or confused youth that they care about them, that they love them.
Only one of these things can be true.
Both of these things cannot be true at the same time because what I want for them is radically different than what the trans activists want for them.
I want them to get good mental health care.
The trans activists want them to mutilate their bodies with pharmaceuticals and with surgeries.
So the question I want to pose to these students, and I will do this to them on Wednesday, is I want to ask them, listen, how do you know which one of us is telling you the truth?
Because one of us is lying to you.
It's either me or it's the trans activists.
But here's the thing, Terry. You can look this up on Twitter, so you can look up Liz Wheeler, JMU, and you can see a lot of the backlash.
There's a state legislator from Connecticut, I believe that she's an alumni of JMU, who said that she tweeted that I said I wanted to eradicate transgender people or something like that.
And this is demonstrably false.
I never said any such thing. This isn't true.
And the reason I bring it up is because I want to ask these students If trans activists, these radical leftists pushing queer theory on you, are willing to tell you that lie, which is a provable lie, I never said that, what other lies are they telling you?
Have you ever considered that everything that they're telling you is a lie?
And I think this is an angle that hasn't been used before on college campus when engaging with these radical trans activists.
I feel so much compassion for them.
I do care about them. I want them to be the people they were made to be.
And we're going to have a really good time.
Also, by the way, this is the funny aspect.
The debate team from James Madison University issued a statement condemning my appearance.
The debate team. So I think we're going to have a good time.
terry schilling
So, Liz, this is what drives me nuts about this.
It's really an industry.
I think we talked a little bit about this.
Just the surgeries alone in America in 2022 was $2.1 billion.
That's how big this industry is.
I'm not making money off of these people.
You're not making money off of these people.
There's no agenda that we have besides loving these people and getting them the proper care that they need.
It seems to me that The whole movement's built on a lie.
Lie after lie after lie, right?
Men can become women, and women can become men, and now they're actually saying that trans is normal, that human beings are fluid in their gender, and that it's actually cis people.
Just so you guys know, cis means that you're just normal, like you're a man, and you identify as a man.
That's what that means. But this is what's not normal.
We're forcing gender on our children, and that is what's the oppression.
So they've already shifted.
They used to argue that this was an inborn trait, that this was genetic, that they had different brains, that they had different hormone levels.
It's all lies. This is an agenda to push.
Well, it's an industry that's profiting and then reinvesting into government affairs and lobbying and PR efforts.
But it's also an ideology that wants to destroy America by weakening the family, by taking away parental rights, and by taking away our freedoms of who to associate with and who we don't have to associate with.
They're using this, obviously, to groom our kids.
I'm so glad that someone like you, as articulate as you are, as hardworking as you are, is in this fight, engaging.
Liz, where can people find you?
I want to get as many War Room people there to the event as possible because these things have been getting nasty.
They're putting marbles in the floor at the University of Iowa.
I think it was against Matt Walsh.
Dangerous stuff. I mean, they're shooting up our kids in school.
So I just want to get as many of our supporters and War Room posse there.
So tell people the details for the event and where else they can follow you and find you.
liz wheeler
Yeah, absolutely. And one comment I would make, you mentioned this ideology.
There is a huge profit motive behind this ideology, but it is a neo-Marxist ideology.
It's queer theory, and that's what we're gonna go into.
We're gonna talk in depth about that on Wednesday.
The event is at James Madison University.
It's at 6 p.m.
on Wednesday, April 26th.
Everybody is invited. You can go to any of my social media channels.
We'll post the invitation where you can get your free tickets.
You can go to Twitter.
I'm Liz Wheeler. I do have the blue checkmark.
Paid $8 for it from Elon Musk.
You can go to LizWheeler.com.
You can find me on Rumble.
You can find me on YouTube. We'll have the event information pasted everywhere.
The best place to go is to go to my Twitter account, Twitter.com slash Liz underscore Wheeler.
And yes, please do come to the event.
And if you can't come, watch it streaming online because it is going to It's going to be something.
It's an important conversation that needs to be had.
We're undeterred by the agitating and the threats.
I mean, that's what happens when you're fighting a war that is an existential war, that's a war for the future of our country.
That's what we're engaging in right now.
So we're very excited about it and hope everyone can join us.
terry schilling
The great Liz Wheeler, thank you so much for joining us.
liz wheeler
Thanks, Terry. I appreciate it.
terry schilling
Yep. All right, guys, we're going to keep moving.
Again, I told you it's a jam-packed show.
I want to go next.
I want to revisit the discussion around abortion, and I've asked Katie Daniel from the Susan B. Anthony List to join us to talk about what's going on in the States and to talk about the polling and where the American people actually are at here.
It's really important that we cover this and there's no better group that I trust more on the pro-life fight than the Susan B. Anthony list.
They're scrappy. They're hardworking, they're serious, and they've been getting the job done for a while.
And by the way, just to remind everyone, Marjorie Dienenfels and her team at SBA, they stuck with President Trump in the 2016 election.
Even in light of all the garbage that the mainstream media was doing, they've been incredibly loyal and they had a great relationship.
They still do, I believe, on the pro-life movement.
So I want to bring in Katie Daniel to talk about what we're seeing in the state's And the polling that we're finding.
So Katie, tell us a little bit.
Walk us through some of the polling numbers and what's going on in the states.
And I kind of want to get into a little bit.
I might have to hold you over to the break.
I want to get into some of the legislation that we're seeing come up in the states.
So I'll just give you the floor and kind of give us a rundown of where we're at right now.
unidentified
Yeah, so far, we've seen states really be able to run with the post-Obs era.
Obviously, we've had some frustrating losses in states like Michigan and Minnesota, but some big wins as well.
I'm a Floridian. I have to brag on our legislature.
Last week, we passed a heartbeat law, and this is a huge step forward in a state that has long been considered an abortion destination and a late-term abortion destination.
We are shutting that down.
That is not what Floridians want.
We passed the 15-week law last year.
Our candidates ran on it.
They were very clear about their records, and we saw that be a winner in November.
They went to Tallahassee with a mandate.
They got it done, and we can't wait for that law to be in effect.
If you go to the West, you've got states like Idaho and Wyoming and Utah that are passing laws strengthening those trigger laws that they'd passed before Roe v.
Wade. It's been their longstanding policy to be pro-life.
They didn't care what the Supreme Court said about it.
They wanted to pass pro-life laws, and now they are strengthening those up.
So, across the country, we're seeing really good things.
We're still excited about the energy in Nebraska.
They have got a heartbeat law that's traveling through their legislature.
Just all over the place, what we see is that when pro-life candidates and pro-life elected officials speak clearly about their positions, and they get into those details, they talk about what abortion is, they talk about why this matters, there are winners.
So I love that clip that you showed to President Trump from 2016.
He spoke clearly, and I'm sure that there were consultants who were having a meltdown when he talked about the barbarity of what partial birth abortion is from the debate stage.
We are so used to hearing euphemisms in this space, and the clarity in the way he spoke about it, he connected with the American people, and he won that election.
So we want to see him go back to that level of clarity that he had And, you know, it's a winner.
It's a winner in the states, and we think it'll be a winner in 2024 for the national elections, too.
terry schilling
Right. And here's the thing that frustrates me about it is that we spend so much time getting attacked and having to respond to the Democrats claiming that we want women in jail, that we want women to die, that we want that if a woman's raped and all this stuff to be forced to either choose between dying or jail.
Why are we allowing the Democrats to frame the entire debate?
Why aren't we counterpunching?
The thing that's puzzling is that that's a natural reaction to counterpunch.
Even my four-year-old son counterpunches when I have to discipline him.
He points out all the other things his brothers and sisters are doing.
I can't wrap my head around it because there's only one thing worse than limiting abortion at a certain point and that is allowing abortion even after a baby's born.
We saw what Governor Northam did in Virginia and talked about how the doctors and the mother will just make a decision while the baby lies there on a cold, sterile metal table.
It's just disgusting and we can win on this and I don't I don't, am I wrong?
I mean, I feel like we can win on this and it's not that much of a lift.
unidentified
Clarity is a powerful thing.
Oh, there we go into the break.
terry schilling
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to hold you over the break and we will come back guys.
Stay tuned. We got another half hour to go and a bunch of other great panelists.
We've got Aaron McIntyre. You're going to love it.
unidentified
Talk soon. Welcome back,
terry schilling
everyone. This is Terry Schilling, President of the American Principles Project, trying my best to do the impossible, fill the amazing shoes of Stephen K. Bannon, our legend, our hero, and our friend.
And one of the greatest Americans I've ever known.
So we still got a great show.
I want to bring this back, though, to Katie Daniel from the Susan B. Anthony List.
We were just talking about my frustrations and her frustration, it sounds like, about Republicans refusing to engage on the abortion fight.
On one hand, you have Democrats accusing us of being extreme, but on the other hand, Republicans aren't responding.
They deflect. We saw this in the campaign in 2022.
Republican gets accused of wanting to ban all abortions without any exceptions, want women to die, be put in prison.
And the Republican doesn't even address that.
We saw that with Dr. Oz in Pennsylvania.
They actually deflect.
They say, I'm not running to change federal abortion policies.
There's no federal role. I'm running to change the economy.
I'm running to change inflation.
I'm running to fix the crime issue.
That leaves the branding out there.
When you allow people to accuse you of terrible things and you don't address their accusations directly, It brands you.
And it's a nightmare. We saw it.
We witnessed, Katie, you know, in my opinion, I think, Katie, we witnessed what a Republican Party that says there's no federal role on abortion, we witnessed the results of what happens there in 2022.
And it's terrible.
We lost the Senate.
We didn't gain as many House seats.
We lost key governorships.
Katie, where am I wrong?
Am I wrong? What's going on?
unidentified
Well, Democrat strategists tell their candidates, don't go into specifics.
When you start talking about specifics, you lose, because the American people are with us.
And we're certainly finding that when you talk about the FDA. The FDA's current policies allow these drugs to be sent through the mail.
They allow them to be sent to minors without parents knowing.
75 percent of Americans oppose this.
We have to get specific.
We have to say what we're for because people are with us.
Even you'll see a poll and it'll say.
terry schilling
Real quick, Katie.
You're saying a lot and you have a ton of information.
I wanna go back to something that you said earlier, which is we have to give specifics, right?
So imagine that you're talking to the presidential candidates right now.
And I bet a few of them are actually watching this show.
What advice would you give them?
What is the national policy on abortion that you and the Susan B. Anthony List would recommend?
What's your advice to them on the campaign trail that they should be supporting and signaling right now?
unidentified
Every candidate needs to define themselves clearly and early.
You need to say what your position is, and you have to point to the need for a federal role.
We cannot say that babies in California and New York don't matter.
This is a human rights issue.
It is not a state's rights issue.
So we put out a statement yesterday saying that we are only going to support a candidate who is for a 15-week federal minimum standard or more protective This would allow states to be more protective, but it would say dismemberment abortions, partial birth abortion, is not going to be happening in California and New York.
Babies in our country deserve a chance at life, no matter where they live.
That is what candidates need to be talking about.
People connect to it.
People say, I'm not for that.
I'm not for what President Trump described in that debate, where you are ripping a child limb from limb.
When we give those specifics, when we connect to people, that's when we win.
terry schilling
Right. No, no. And look, this is all the Mitch Daniels social issues truce, right?
It's this fake idea, this half-cocked plan of, you know, if Republicans just wave the white flag on these issues around protecting the unborn and protecting our kids from being sexualized in schools, that we'll have a detente, we'll have a peace and a truce.
We have seen how that works.
When the Republican Party in 2012 adopted a platform that marriage was a state's issue, we had gay marriage as law of the land before the next presidential election.
And I think that that's my biggest concern about where President Trump is heading.
And I want to prevent that.
I want him to win.
What's going to happen, Katie, I mean, in my opinion, tell me if I'm wrong, is if he continues with this no federal role in abortion, he's going to lose his base.
And he'll have to deal with Joe Biden and all the Democrats and all their friends in Hollywood and in the corporate media.
Calling him someone that wants to put women in jail, someone that wants women to die.
He is the president.
He has to own it.
He can't escape it. He is the president that got us Dobbs and overturned Roe.
unidentified
Where am I wrong? Governors who ran on their records won.
We went 12-0 with governors running on their records.
Attorneys general who ran on their records went 14-0.
So the path is clear.
When you've got a great pro-life record, you should lean into it.
You should run on it. And we encourage all candidates to do that.
The American people don't want abortion on demand.
They don't want the Democratic Party platform.
That's why Democrats tell their candidates not to talk specifics, because their specifics are deeply unpopular.
So we have to do it.
If you don't lay out your position, the left and the media will do it for you, and you're not going to like it, and you're going to play defense the whole time.
terry schilling
Katie Daniel, I've got to keep the show running.
Where can people find more about Susie Manthelis and stay on top of the abortion debate and abortion policy going forward?
unidentified
You can find us at sbaprolife.org and you can follow state laws at lifesavinglaws.com.
terry schilling
Katie Daniel, thank you so much for joining us and keep up the great work that you guys are doing at SBA to protect our unborn children and save this country.
unidentified
Thank you. Thank you.
terry schilling
All right, we're gonna keep this show rolling.
My next two guests are incredible.
I'm gonna start with someone that I just met a few weeks ago while I was in Texas.
He is a freshman representative in the Texas Statehouse.
He's already breaking through barriers.
He is Killing it for the family.
He's helping protect our kids.
We've been working with him to help pass some legislation to protect kids online.
He's also got some other things around adoption I want to talk about.
But Nate Schatzlein, representative.
Nate, you're based out of the Fort Worth area.
unidentified
Is that right? That's right.
terry schilling
That's right. Fort Worth. Very good.
Very good. So, Nate, tell us, give us an update on the age verification legislation that you're leading the charge on in the Texas State House.
And I want to get into how the War Room Posse can help because this is an army of people that are willing to help save this country and take action.
So give us a rundown of where we are right now on the age verification bill and then how we can help.
unidentified
No, it's absolutely such an important fight.
Terry, thank you so much for even having me on.
and taking the time to cover such an important and vital issue.
I think ultimately what we're looking at right now is we see a Texas that is ready to protect the next generation.
I think it's incredibly vital that when we start talking about age verification bills, we also address the fact Really, this is a bipartisan effort.
We've had bipartisan support from the very beginning of this bill, because all this bill seeks to do is ensure that children under the age of 18 don't have direct access to pornography.
What we're seeing is this bill just passed unanimously out of the Youth Health and Safety Committee here in the Texas House.
People are excited about it.
I know I'll be carrying Senator Angela Paxton's bill on the House side as well.
That's the companion bill.
And what this bill seeks to do is very simple.
We are requiring age verification through ID verification here in the state of Texas where you'll have to upload your ID in order to access adult content.
Now, I will say the key here is that we're not just adding ID verification to pornographic websites, but we're also making sure that our social media sites have to follow this rule as well.
Because, you know, I think it's common knowledge that much of the pornographic material that children have access to come through social media.
So we're excited it's moving and it's going well.
terry schilling
Nate, We've been working on this, and you and I have addressed these concerns, but this concern about privacy keeps coming up.
I want you to walk the war room posse through for why this isn't any different than the age verification that we require for online gambling or alcohol.
I bought a pack of cigars for a friend of mine.
I had to upload my photo ID. That's just cigars.
That's pretty harmless stuff.
Should people be concerned about this affecting their privacy?
unidentified
What do you have to say to that? That's great.
Here's the deal. We never want to put privacy issues on the state level or the federal level.
We want to make sure that our data privacy is prioritized.
Here's the big one. You know, we just in the Texas House just passed, carried by Representative Capricleone, probably one of the most comprehensive data privacy bills in the United States of America.
And so data privacy is huge for us, especially when it comes to talking about the next generation.
So within this bill, we actually have it in here that they cannot store any data that's received.
They can't sell any data that's received as well.
And that was vital for us because, especially when we're talking about this type of industry, we never want to give access to any type of data to an industry that seeks to exploit children and really an industry that we see human trafficking being implemented in every single day.
And so data privacy was huge for us, but I will tell you this.
A simple are you of the age of 18 question is just not enough to protect the next generation from obscene materials and really just pornographic images and videos all across the internet and all across social media that we see every single day flooding the smartphones of our kids.
In fact, more than half of American children own a smartphone by age 11, which should terrify us.
It should also wake us up as parents to Be more involved and be able to say no to our children on these things.
Your children does not need a smartphone to thrive.
I would venture to say they may thrive better without one.
And then this was the big stat that threw me off.
Over 62 % of 11 to 13-year-olds who have seen pornography reported that their first exposure to it was unintentional.
And so how many of those exposures could we mitigate by simply adding in some common sense practices to ensure that our children don't have direct access to pornography just one click away?
terry schilling
No, that's exactly right.
Nate, I have a little bit of time left.
I want you...
Look, this age verification stuff is a no-brainer.
It's not controversial. It just passed the Virginia legislature.
I think Glenn Youngkin just signed into law.
It was 98 to 0 in the House and I think 38 to 7 in the...
I'm sorry, 38 to 3 in the Senate.
These bills are sailing through.
Just this year alone, we're up to five states.
But I want you to tell the audience a little bit about your adoption legislation, because I find it fascinating and incredibly creative.
Could you talk a little bit about that, or is it a little bit too early to go forward?
unidentified
No, I would love to talk about it.
I think as much publicity we can get around this as possible, because I think this is one of the most important bills we have in the Texas House right now.
It's HB 4138.
And that bill simply states that we want to create a program that will assist in lowering the barriers and the cost of adoption in the state of Texas.
My goal is to make Texas the most affordable state for adoption in the entire United States of America.
And we're doing that by creating a program that would essentially partner with nonprofits, aka the church.
So if a church wants to sponsor a family to do an adoption, then what we've said is, hey, go through our program, sponsor that family up to 50%, and we're going to match those funds.
And there's two major things that are important to do with this bill.
Number one, lowering the barriers of adoption is huge because only 2 % to 4 % Of families in the United States have adopted, yet over one-third of families in the United States have considered it.
And it's because the average cost of a private adoption in the state of Texas is between $40,000 to $60,000, which is just unplausible when it comes to a middle-income family.
And so, first, we're lowering the cost.
But secondarily, and honestly just as important, we're creating a system through the state government that will make sure that when a church wants to sponsor a family to adopt, that they are not giving it to anyone who could ever harm a child or could be involved in a trafficking scheme or could ever do anything that would be negative towards the child's life by simply having the vetting process go through adoption agencies that are trusted.
And so we're one, combating child human trafficking.
And secondarily, we're lowering the barriers for healthy families to create a healthy environment for children that desperately need it.
terry schilling
Nate, where can people find you and learn more about these efforts?
You're obviously, I think you're a rising star.
I am, just so the war room knows, I am long Nate Schatzlein out of Texas.
I think he's got a big future.
Nate, where can people find you?
unidentified
Thank you so much, and I so appreciate that.
They can follow me on social media at either repnateschatzline on Instagram or nateschatzline on Twitter as well.
And yes, please stay up to date.
I believe that Texas is really geared up to lead the way on these two issues, and we're really excited about it.
Thank you so much for having me on, and as always, you guys do amazing work, so thanks for what you're doing.
terry schilling
My man, Nate.
Thank you so much for joining us.
The last guest, and I'm saving the best for last, and I mean that.
Name's Aaron McIntyre, and I came across his Twitter in conjunction with the Claremont Institute.
And I did the Lincoln Fellowship, and his name kept coming up in his Twitter account.
I started following him, and I found him to be one of the most fascinating and on-point people.
He is an expert at late-stage empires, which I think that unless we turn things around, that's exactly where America is right now.
So we're going to do a little bit of dooming and glooming with Aaron.
Maybe he'll give us a little bit of hope.
I don't know. Aaron, how are you, my friend?
Welcome to the War Room. Hey, thanks for having me.
So talk to us.
You're famous for the tap the sign meme, which is essentially, guys, it's It's not that complicated.
They're just evil and they want to diddle kids, which we're seeing more and more.
We're seeing the drag queen story hours.
We're seeing the grooming in schools.
We're seeing the sex changes for minors.
We have unrestricted access to porn.
There's a real sexual revolution going on.
It's aimed at our kids. So what are you focused on right now?
And what do you think the War Room Posse should be concerned about and focus on right now?
unidentified
Well, I think like you said, when we're looking at kind of late-stage civilizations, they're always wanting to centralize power.
They're always wanting to break down barriers, protective barriers, the things that used to hold civilization together so that they can accrue more power to the federal government, to the central government.
And one of the key functions of that, whether it's today's Western liberal democracies or you look at something like the Soviet Union, the key is always breaking apart the family, right?
The ability to get the child to turn on the parents.
And so what we're seeing right now is the advancement of an ideology that does a number of different things.
First, it does, unfortunately, cater to the proclivities of some people who are really horrific inside the left.
But it also serves the larger purpose of turning children against parents.
This is why they need to introduce sexual identities and sexuality to children younger and younger, because by doing so, they can tell children that they have something that their parents are against, something they're opposed to.
It needs to be protected from their parents.
And so this is why we so often see parents or rather we see teachers talking about how they can be trusted more than parents, how the child should trust them above their parents and put them first.
And so by granting these children awareness of sexuality and sexualizing them far too young, they can create an identity that then opens them up to civil rights protection.
And as we've learned, the civil rights movement has become the argument for everything now.
Everything is a civil right.
Everything is the newest front of the civil rights revolution.
And if a child has a civil right to a sexual identity and the parent is the one restricting that child's civil right, then it's the state's job to step in and remove the parent and their ability to have authority over their child and restrict behavior.
terry schilling
No, no, that's one of the best explanations I've heard.
Aaron, I got about two and a half minutes left.
And the thing that you mentioned that always sticks out to me whenever I'm online and seeing all these debates is there's this article, and you've probably seen it in The Atlantic in 1926, There's a report from the Atlantic that covered the dissolution of marriage and the abolition of the family in the Soviet Union.
And the thing that always sticks out to me about this story is basically they made marriage dissolution a five-minute process.
So no fault, five-minute process, you're in and out, done.
What's happening is these guys were marrying women, getting them knocked up.
And abandoning the family and then knocking up another girl.
They had entire cities and villages ransacked by fatherless orphans.
Criminal fatherless orphans that were violent, they were raping, they were killing, they were robbing, they were committing arson.
And it's like, I read this story and I'm thinking, this is happening in Chicago.
This is happening in San Francisco.
This is happening in Seattle. This is happening in Portland.
This is happening in New York. This is happening everywhere.
We're literally going through the abolition of the family.
I think that the left has been way more successful in abolishing the family than anyone realizes.
unidentified
Yeah, again, that's absolutely correct.
This has always been a goal of the left.
Again, the family stands as kind of the last barrier between the total state and the individual.
The family is the most natural of bonds.
It's the one that almost no one can escape.
And that means it's one of the places where the state has difficulty reaching in.
Families are the place where people are taught traditions.
And values that the state might not want them to have.
It's the last barrier between radical ideology taking over every part of your civilization.
And so if your plan, like the left's is, is to completely disorient our society, to completely invert the natural hierarchy of our society and remake it in your own image, To create this really unnatural hierarchy, you must destroy any barrier to your power, any place in which people could receive more natural and traditional ideas.
And so that's why the family has to go.
terry schilling
Aaron, where can people find you?
unidentified
You can go ahead and subscribe to the Oren McIntyre podcast.
And of course, you can catch everything over at Blaze TV. I also have everything on YouTube, Rumble, and Odyssey.
terry schilling
Awesome. Thank you so much for joining us.
Ladies and gentlemen, this hour flew by.
I love you all.
We have huge fights ahead of us and there's no one that I would rather be in the war room with than all of you.
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