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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
It's going to happen. | ||
And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
Thanks for watching. | ||
They literally just finished a hearing in Manhattan on violent crime. | ||
One Republican tweeting, the city is no longer safe. | ||
If that's true, why aren't the DA, the mayor or the police commissioner on the witness list? | ||
Plus, state secrets, private assessments of Russian propaganda, Chinese spying, and Taiwan's military, all exposed for the world to see, allegedly leaked by an airman barely old enough to buy a beer. | ||
As Congress returns to the Hill, full of fury over it all, what are they prepared to do about it? | ||
And attorneys for the family of a black teenager demanding justice for what they call a horrendous and unjustifiable shooting. | ||
The 16-year-old victim recovering in the hospital after being shot in the head for doing nothing but showing up at the wrong address. | ||
But we begin right here in New York, where former President Donald Trump's congressional allies are taking their fight to Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg's backyard with a field hearing they say is about crime. | ||
Democrats call it a political stunt, an excuse for Judiciary Chair Jim Jordan and other House Republicans to undermine Bragg's prosecution of Trump by painting the DA as soft on crime. | ||
Here in Manhattan, the scales of justice are weighed down by politics. | ||
For the district attorney, justice isn't blind. | ||
It's about looking for opportunities to advance a political agenda. | ||
Let me be very clear. | ||
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We are here today in lower Manhattan for one reason and one reason only. | |
The chairman is doing the bidding of Donald Trump. | ||
Instead, it is the GOP leadership in Congress doing what it has done best for the last six years, and that is to act as the Criminal Defense Counsel for Donald J. Trump. | ||
Well, let me tell you this. | ||
Let me tell you this. | ||
Capitol Police. Gentlemen, we'll suspend. | ||
Capitol Police. Capitol Police will remove the gentlemen from the audience. | ||
Let me tell you this. Let me tell you this. | ||
Gentlemen. Let me tell you this. | ||
Let me tell you this. | ||
Donald J. Trump. | ||
Gentlemen, we'll suspend. | ||
Till we got order. | ||
All of you, everyone, please leave. | ||
All right, thank you for being here today. | ||
Gentlemen, we'll suspend. | ||
The audience has to be in order. | ||
Capitol Hill Police. | ||
Capital, please. Sir. | ||
Can we have an order? | ||
We're working on it, Mr. | ||
Schiff. Gentlemen. Capital, please, please, please remove the gentleman from the audience. | ||
No, you gotta go. You gotta go. | ||
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. | ||
I'm giving you several warnings. | ||
You gotta go, unfortunately. It was a very unfortunate attack on Ralph Nader. | ||
The committee will be in order. | ||
The gentleman from California. | ||
His comments about Ralph Nader are way out of line. | ||
Of course it is not a coincidence that we are here in Manhattan. | ||
Instead, it is the GOP leadership in Congress doing what it has done best over the last six years, and that is to act as the criminal defense counsel for Donald J. Trump. | ||
Your experiences are devastating. | ||
But the problem is that this is a charade to cover up for an abuse of power that they are going around talking incessantly outside of this hearing about Donald Trump. | ||
And the purpose of this hearing is to cover up for what they know to be an inappropriate investigation. | ||
Now, I look forward. | ||
Many of you are in New York City. | ||
Can I respond to you, please? Not right now, because I only have 20 seconds. | ||
I'm sorry. But I do want to talk to you. | ||
Don't insult my intelligence. Hang on. | ||
Hang on. The gentleman's talking. | ||
You're trying to insult me like I'm not aware of what's going on here. | ||
Thank you. Okay? I'm fully aware of what's going on here. | ||
Gentleman will suspend. | ||
Gentleman gets another 15 seconds. | ||
Thank you. That's why I walked away from the plantation of the Democratic Party. | ||
The committee will be in order. | ||
What I was what I was about to say is that as a representative of this city, I look forward to working with you. | ||
Wow. It is. | ||
It's Monday, 17, April, the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
We've got Congressman Matt Gaetz joins us back from the committee hearing. | ||
This was one of the wildest things I've ever seen. | ||
But what was amazing is the discipline. | ||
This was not about Donald Trump. | ||
This was actually about the lawlessness in New York City and the Democrats completely freaked out on this entire time. | ||
Well, I guess today's hearing was about Donald Trump insofar as we see this pattern throughout history where totalitarian regimes from the Bolsheviks to the Nazis to Mao Zedong always try to create a sense of fear in people. | ||
And our concern is that some of the ugliest moments of history are playing out again on our streets and in the minds of some of our policymakers. | ||
Donald Trump stands against that. | ||
Donald Trump stands against a government that would think so low of its people that it would leave them to fend for themselves. | ||
Disarmed with the criminal element in charge of the neighborhoods in our communities. | ||
And our focus was on the specific experiences of some of the people in New York who had come to us with concerns about misuse of federal money in Alvin Bragg's office. | ||
The lady you just heard from who said she was done on the Democrat plantation, the mother of a slain Army veteran who was killed as a consequence of violent crime where the incompetence of Alvin Bragg resulted in the inability to truly administer justice and have accountability in her case with her family. | ||
So to see Dan Goldman, who, by the way, since Hakeem Jeffries became leader of the Democrats, is their most talented member in any committee. | ||
He's the best they got. | ||
But to see Dan Goldman, who is the heir to the Levi Strauss fortune. | ||
People don't know this. The guy's a bayonet, right? | ||
I don't know his exact dollar amount, but he could buy everyone in this room and sell them multiple times over. | ||
And he had a certain mansplain about him with that woman, and boy did she return fire. | ||
She was not going to be mansplained by Dan Goldman about what was reasonable for her to think about the safety on the streets where she lives. | ||
I know the overall theory of what you guys are trying to do. | ||
What I loved about this today was the humanity of it. | ||
I mean, there was intention. You had the Miles Grove demonstrators, but you also had, we didn't get to play another part where they're talking down to the witnesses and the witnesses, I mean, hit them with a volley right back. | ||
I mean, the witnesses were engaged in this as anything I've seen. | ||
You had Jose Alba there, and amid all the distractions and things people were saying and doing, the true essence of that was the experience of New Yorkers. | ||
Jose Alba was working in a bodega, got attacked, and when he defended himself, with a knife, because by the way, you can't have a gun even in self-defense in many cases in New York. | ||
When he defended himself, he was the one that ended up getting charged. | ||
And so they are putting the law on the side of violent criminals. | ||
And I believe that in every society in all of human history since King and Abel, there has been a violent criminal element. | ||
And whether or not we have to live in fear resides in our ability and our gumption to ensure that they're not the ones in charge. | ||
Talk to me. Walk through what judiciary's gonna do here. | ||
Are you going to other cities? | ||
Are you going back to New York? What are you guys trying to prove? | ||
New York's actually not the first city where we've had such a field here. | ||
We went to Yuma, Arizona. | ||
Heard about the crime. | ||
Heard about the strain on social services that occur there. | ||
So we've been to Arizona. | ||
We've been to New York. I would expect that some of the things that we've seen in California we're very concerned about because we don't want this to metastasize. | ||
People are leaving New York in droves. | ||
I think it was U-Haul that said the top three states people are leaving, New York, California, Illinois, and the three areas they're going to, Florida, Texas, and the Carolinas. | ||
So people are leaving New York. | ||
We just don't want the ideas. | ||
of Illinois and California and New York to metastasize around the country. | ||
So I think that's the principal job of the Judiciary Committee is to confront these ideas on policy terms as we did today and to showcase that you don't have to live this way. | ||
We live this way in some of the bluest cities in the country because of specific choices made on cashless bail, on deciding not to prosecute certain crimes, on the decision to make erroneous downgrades, and even on just the basic competency of losing cases. | ||
Alvin Bragg is like not exactly hitting at it out of the park when it comes to the winning percentage. | ||
He's actually tens of percentage points lower than Cy Vance, his predecessor on a number of key categories. | ||
Tom, one of the things I noticed, I didn't hear we'd watch it here, we didn't on replay because we're doing the show live through most of it. | ||
I never heard the Republicans ever mention Trump and the Democrats were obsessed with it. | ||
In fact, you could tell they were losing at the end because you guys were listening to the victims. | ||
They didn't want to hear the victims. Well, make no mistake. | ||
The House Judiciary Committee is investigating the weaponization of Alvin Bragg's office against Donald Trump. | ||
And that's why we've asked Alvin Bragg for information. | ||
It's why in the coming days we will be taking a transcribed interview of Mark Pomerantz, who was the person who left and wrote the book. | ||
That's right. He's getting deposed? | ||
Yeah, we have him on our list. | ||
Will you be there for that? I will. | ||
And I will be there to ask questions that relate to the investigation of President Trump and the misuse of federal resources there. | ||
But today was about the people of New York. | ||
Today was about... | ||
We're just lashing these terrible choices that are made on policy grounds to the bloody experiences people have had. | ||
And that's why we wanted to lift those voices up. | ||
And it was so condescending to watch Democrats look their constituents in the face and try to tell them that because some professor at the end of the table had Come up with a creative interpretation of crime data that they weren't really experiencing the things they were experiencing. | ||
One of the Democrat witnesses said, look, there's just a lot of people in Manhattan. | ||
You just have to take it. | ||
And boy, did that get some of the witnesses. | ||
No, that did not go over well. | ||
I know you guys are on to something when C-SPAN, walk me through the coverage and even Yuma. | ||
You know that they're afraid of this and they don't want to see it when C-SPAN doesn't do it. | ||
And MSNBC guys just do the more chaotic parts of it. | ||
They don't really get to the power of people sitting there talking about their lived experience under Bragg. | ||
What I found is that when we leave Washington DC and go out in the country, the way that the media Information domain changes is largely around local news. | ||
You get pick up from local news, local radio, and they're in many cases just putting forward what occurred. | ||
And that has a breakthrough element that goes beyond the war room posse. | ||
It goes to people who I think can be drawn in and can be turned into an operational force given the right information. | ||
And that's why we're going around really on an information tour. | ||
It was interesting on MSNBC and CNN, one of their biggest complaints were, why did Gates and Jordan have to go to New York to do this? | ||
People could have come down to Washington, D.C. and testified. | ||
They were very upset about that. | ||
How arrogant that we believe that people ought to always have to come to us. | ||
The notion of the great imperial city here in Washington. | ||
We had no problem going to New York, and we're not going to have a problem going to San Francisco and Los Angeles and Chicago and other places where people are truly under siege. | ||
And I don't think that the policy remedy here, as some on the right might suggest, is federalizing law enforcement. | ||
I understand that the police power is a power that belongs to the state, so I'm not trying to substitute our judgment for anyone at the local level, but I do think there is a big policy debate going on right now in the country. | ||
You've got the defund the police folks, you've got the folks who are soft on crime, and they are well resourced in advancing their agenda, and so we want to make sure that the victims And law enforcement also have a voice in that national debate, and that's what our committee can facilitate. | ||
Two of the most powerful things that have happened in the first hundred days of McCarthy's speakership, I believe, have been your field investigation down at Yuma and what happened today. | ||
They were just very powerful. | ||
You heard from people firsthand and the depth of the experience and the problems were very powerful. | ||
Okay, we're going to take a short break. A couple of other things. | ||
John Solomon was on here earlier today, talked about this issue with Mike Morrell and the people with the laptop from hell. | ||
Also, Kevin McCarthy gave a speech today at the... | ||
At the Stock Exchange, then he was kind of heckled by the CNP, you know, hectored and heckled by the CNBC crowd. | ||
I want to get into all of that, plus new revelations about the, quote-unquote, the leak, what it means for Ukraine and national security. | ||
We have Congressman Matt Gaetz is in the house. | ||
He's just back from New York with this incredibly powerful, dramatic testimony today of the Judiciary Committee in Lower Manhattan talking to witnesses. | ||
Okay, short break, back in a moment. | ||
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To rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCD! | |
They have all lied for too long. | ||
Your host, Stephen K. Bound. | ||
You you So if you just raise the debt ceiling, do you think $31 trillion of debt? | ||
The CBO has come out, in the next 10 years, do you know we'll pay 10.5? | ||
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You did it three times in the Trump administration. | |
As we did economic changes. | ||
We never raised the debt ceiling by itself. | ||
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But the tax cuts, that was like $2 trillion deficit. | |
And you know how much we're bringing in, in revenue? | ||
On average, in the 50-year average in America, you bring 17 % of GDP. Today we're bringing 20. | ||
That's only two other times in modern history in America have you ever brought 20 % of GDP. That's because the tax cuts actually created economy to grow and brought more revenue into the economy. | ||
But the problem is not how much money we're bringing in where the president just wants to raise more taxes. | ||
It's our spending. On 50-year average, we normally only spend 21 % of GDP. Right now, we're spending 23.6 on our way to 25. | ||
So if you don't tackle the spending problem, you're never. | ||
And if you ignore this problem and you just raise the debt ceiling, our debt is now $31 trillion. | ||
It's bigger than our entire economy by 20%. | ||
You're at a tipping point. | ||
So all you're going to do is cause more inflation. | ||
Remember what Milton Friedman, my favorite economist, said, inflation is only created in Washington. | ||
And the only way you curve inflation is you create the interest rate to be higher than the inflation rate. | ||
We've already had bank failures based upon this policy where the Democrats spent six trillion more dollars. | ||
So yes, our history has always been that we did not just raise the debt ceiling. | ||
President Biden, every time, did not believe in that. | ||
And I don't know why you'd want to change it now when we're more in economic dire straits. | ||
Because if you did what you were requesting, you would create more inflation, more dependency on China, You would harm Social Security and Medicare. | ||
I mean, for the first time in a 10-year window, three trust funds will go unsolvent. | ||
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Infrastructure, Social Security and Medicare. I'm not suggesting we don't do anything about that. | |
I'm just suggesting there's a time and place for it. | ||
This is a technical... | ||
The time and place is right now. | ||
Okay, okay, he's being hectored right there. | ||
They don't do that to Democrats, but I gotta tell ya. | ||
I want that Kevin McCarthy. | ||
Kevin McCarthy ate his Wheaties. | ||
Somehow, this is now you can tell focus because he was on point right there. | ||
He went yard, knocked it out of the park. | ||
Absolutely. I was so glad that during Speaker McCarthy's remarks, he emphasized the very work requirements that you and I have discussed extensively on this show. | ||
I came on the war room and said no debt limit increase without work requirements. | ||
MSNBC and CNN went nuts and replayed that clip and left-wing media aggregated it to the moon and now you hear the Speaker of the House uttering those very same things and I think that is a very positive step. | ||
I would also say that as we sit here now, We do not have 218 votes. | ||
In that seat today was MTG, okay? | ||
And remember, she's part of the Five Families, Helen McCarthy, and she was adamant. | ||
How does the story end for the Five Families? | ||
I keep hearing this reference to the Five Families, but I think it ends like in The Godfather, right? | ||
So who would sign up to be part of the Five Families, meaning it's knowing the end of the movie. | ||
Exactly. The Daily Mail is reporting right now in an exclusive interview with Speaker McCarthy after he left the New York Stock Exchange for the speech that he has 218 votes on a thing that will cut spending, but he will give a one-year debt limit. | ||
MTG, I don't think, was unfamiliar with that this morning. | ||
What say you? Speaker McCarthy was outstanding today. | ||
He's focusing on a lot of the right themes. | ||
But as we sit here today, there are not 218 votes to raise the debt limit. | ||
We're still working on where the spending caps ought to be. | ||
And Marjorie Taylor Greene made a point very forcefully during one of these meetings we were having with leadership. | ||
Why are we still doing all this foreign aid? | ||
If we are $30 trillion in debt, if we have to raise the debt limit another $2 trillion, what in the world are we doing borrowing money from one country or devaluing the American dollar for Americans so that we can fund other countries? | ||
Well, having working class people in this country pay the wealthy because the foreign aid is all sucked up by the wealthy in those nations, right? | ||
We spend so much time on this show talking about the border and about oversight, things I care deeply about, free speech, big tech. | ||
But this printing of money, this scheme is the corrupt enterprise that funds all that we are concerned about. | ||
And just look at what Joe Biden has done without any congressional approval. | ||
With no congressional approval, he has nationalized the banking system. | ||
By guaranteeing every deposit in the country. | ||
He has now decided to give Obamacare to illegal aliens. | ||
And single-handedly, with the passage of no laws, destroying the Trump border policies that actually got things in order. | ||
Given the humanitarian visas down in Mexico, it's everything's... | ||
Now hold it. I'm going to pivot now to Ukraine. | ||
Because very specifically, one of the big issues of this is Ukraine. | ||
From the intelligence side and also the budget side. | ||
And I hear that just like you came on here and announced, hey, I think I can take a trillion dollars in cost out of here by just making people go to work, right? | ||
Tell me about Ukraine. Well, we should not be sending another red cent to Ukraine. | ||
The problem is that view that I hold is not a view that is held by a majority in Congress. | ||
So we have a lot of Republicans right now who are still supportive of more aid to Ukraine. | ||
Speaker McCarthy is probably one of them. | ||
So I'm in the minority of the majority on that issue. | ||
And so I'm playing a different hand on Ukraine, frankly, than on the debt limit. | ||
Where, regardless of how a lot of people feel about Ukraine, a lot of people who are pro-sending more money to Ukraine are also against raising the debt limit absent some pretty serious vertical cuts. | ||
I would suggest that Ukraine ought to be at the top of the list when it comes to cuts. | ||
If we have to raise the debt limit to fund our own country, maybe we shouldn't fund pensions in another one. | ||
Is that like the crazy thing to say? | ||
Doesn't the content of what's happened in this leak inform your colleagues about how the triumphalist narrative on Ukraine we've been lied to consistently? | ||
Don't we have to force Biden to come to the floor and walk us through what the plan is? | ||
So Wednesday we have a bipartisan classified briefing on the leak and the cascading effects of that. | ||
And I will observe closely how my colleagues react to some of this information. | ||
I'll probably be better suited because we've been outside of Washington during the duration where these revelations have come. | ||
And I don't have a real good sense of how people are going to react to it. | ||
Talk to me about how do you get then... | ||
Is this program, you want to do a Voterama? | ||
And the reason you want to do a Voterama, you say you've got Arrington's budget, you've got Hearns, you've got the Russ vote, you've got Biggs, you've got 50, you see deep cuts, Freedom Caucus, Main Street. | ||
We have 222 members and about 250 plans. | ||
Okay, and so your theory of the case, because you're saying, hey, you love Speaker McCarthy and what he's doing today, but you're not buying this 218 votes about any one plan. | ||
That's not Speaker McCarthy's fault. | ||
I mean, listen, we cannot go and take away every tool Kevin McCarthy has to move votes and then blame him that the votes aren't there. | ||
We defanged Kevin McCarthy during the first week of January. | ||
So I'm not going to be at the front of the list to now criticize him for not delivering the votes. | ||
This is incumbent upon the conference. | ||
And frankly, if we make the cuts that I think we need to make, we wouldn't even need to raise the debt limit. | ||
Walk us through that. Andy Biggs has put together a Legislative package of over 500 cuts, very deep cuts into foreign aid, zeroing out a lot of these green energy priorities, doing a full COVID clawback of a lot of the funds that haven't been spent, which, by the way, will be less by the time I'm done with this paragraph. | ||
And that would give us the flexibility to avoid having to raise the debt limit. | ||
And that would be my preference. | ||
Now, you know, I also think there are great ideas in the Freedom Caucus plan. | ||
I believe work requirements are really helpful because they don't just drive down costs on one side. | ||
It also creates more labor participation and growth on the other end, which juices the revenue. | ||
The left is saying it's everywhere. | ||
You're the cruelest guy in the House right now because you're going to make Well, they said that about me before I was for work requirements. | ||
Talk about the work requirements. How draconian are these work requirements? | ||
You're saying a trillion dollars. | ||
Well, that's tailorable. | ||
That's tailorable. So the trillion dollars... | ||
But everybody says the work requirements have got to be part of it. | ||
What is it? Because the left is saying that you are the worst member of the House for even bringing this up. | ||
If you did a full work requirement that gave the obligation to every person, regardless of whether they had dependents so long as they weren't disabled, not a senior citizen, and you made that requirement 11 months out of the year, 40 hours a week, you would achieve the greatest savings. | ||
I think that something more modest can be advanced. | ||
I think if you had able-bodied, childless adults have to work 10 months out of the year and... | ||
Then be able to qualify for Medicaid, then you would have a whole lot of incentive to get people off the couch right now who could make a contribution and choose not to. | ||
That doesn't save a trillion, but it saves a good chunk, and I think it also delivers on the growth side. | ||
Walk me through your Votorama. | ||
Why does that make sense to do it your way? | ||
I want to know where people stand. | ||
Look, we have one half of one third of the government, and so we're not going to get everything that you want or that I want, and I don't want us to get rolled as this machine continues to soak up every dollar, drive inflation, and hollow out the futures of our fellow Americans. | ||
At the same time, I want to know where my Republican colleagues stand. | ||
I want to see who's going to vote against the bigs plan. | ||
I want to see who would vote against Kevin Hearn's good budget or the good budget presented by the Freedom Caucus or all of the ideas, frankly, that Jody Arrington very competently put forward when Republicans gathered recently in Orlando. | ||
And if we did all of that, then people would have to stand before their constituents. | ||
But the reason there's resistance to a voter Rama It's because some people have to take some tough votes. | ||
And I'm sorry, but that's how it's going to be now. | ||
We're not going back to the days of members being protected from having to take a position on the most important issues facing the country and the world and the economy. | ||
And you want to see that debate on the floor. | ||
People have to defend what they're going to cut and defend what they're not going to cut. | ||
Absolutely. Is this part of, we're going to go to break, can I keep you for a couple minutes on the other side? | ||
Sure. Okay. Because I've got to ask you about this Morrell thing of John Solomon. | ||
Donald Trump said to the donors this weekend, the old Republican Party is dead and it's not coming back. | ||
Is that part of it, what you're talking about? | ||
You've got to take tough votes now? | ||
Yeah, I think procedurally we have to embrace the notion that we have to be bold and we have to deliver for people. | ||
And you don't get there by having these cooked up backroom deals that are written by the lobbyists and the special interests and the entities that I abhor. | ||
This is how you break the cartel. | ||
And this is what you guys envisioned when you did this situation in the first week of January. | ||
Cockroaches always scatter when the lights are turned on. | ||
Okay, short commercial break. Congressman Gates is going to stay with us a couple of minutes on the other side. | ||
Got to talk to him about this, about the laptop from hell. | ||
Grant Stinchfield is going to be here for his assessment. | ||
There's only he can give it to these NRA speeches where Mike Pence got booed. | ||
And then I've got the Mike Davis is going to join us also about Justice Clarence Thomas. | ||
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They're saying Clarence Thomas is the new Abe Fortas? | |
I don't think so. We'll get Mike Davis in here. | ||
Congressman Gates on the other side. | ||
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Short break. Back in a moment. Our host, Stephen K. Back. | |
Okay, welcome back. I know you got to run. | ||
You're busy. But I got to ask you, Solomon comes on today, because I noticed one thing that you've been very focused on. | ||
John Solomon comes on, got a breaking story. | ||
Then he tells us Jim Jordan, he talked to Jordan, that certain, they've been, you guys have been doing depositions of certain members related in the intelligence community to the full page ad in the letter that came out about the laptop from Hell of the 41. | ||
And he mentioned Mike Morrell's name, and he said Mike Morrell's given some information that could lead one to believe what Solomon thinks, that you're going to be able to connect this. | ||
to the Biden campaign. | ||
Now, I know you've been very involved in this. | ||
This is kind of a bombshell. | ||
So people know who Mike Morell is, former deputy director of the CIA, former acting director of the CIA, wanted to be Joe Biden's CIA director, got a phone call from Tony Blinken, who was representing the Biden campaign, saying, you know, gee, Mike, doesn't this Hunter Biden laptop look like Russian disinformation? | ||
Morell testifies that that then triggers him to be the ringleader of an enterprise to go to others and to put together a letter for the specific purpose of use by Joe Biden in the presidential debate. | ||
You guys can prove that? We can prove that and much more. | ||
Everything I'm telling you I can fully corroborate with records and testimony. | ||
There are other very concerning behaviors of the government that I have only seen reflected in testimony. | ||
Some I've only seen reflected in records. | ||
That's why every day this week I will be conducting depositions as a part of what we're doing on the weaponization subcommittee. | ||
We will be back doing this. | ||
We are rocking and rolling to get to the bottom of it and there'll be much more to come. | ||
But at a top line, we can prove that the entire purpose of this letter at the outset was to influence a presidential election with some of the most senior people who have ever been in our intelligence community, using the imprimatur of their security clearances to pave the way for Joe Biden's presidency. | ||
Can we get you back when you guys have a little more to talk about that? | ||
Because that's as big a bombshell as I've heard in this city. | ||
We will be back whenever you invite us. | ||
Congressman, how do people get to Firebrain? | ||
How do they get to your... By the way, you've got competition tonight. | ||
And by the way, we're going to start doing Firebrain on Getter with a live chat when he put it up because MTG launches her podcast tonight. | ||
Well, I am very excited to... | ||
You inspired her. I'm a huge fan of her commentary on things, so I wish her all the best. | ||
Our podcast is Firebrand. | ||
You can get it on Apple, Spotify, Podbean, anywhere that you get podcasts. | ||
I'm at rep Matt Gaetz and at Matt Gaetz everywhere on the internet. | ||
Congressman, thank you. I know it's tough to come by. | ||
Thank you. Thank you very much. | ||
Okay. Congressman Matt Gaetz. | ||
Wow. What a story. We're going to drill down more on that. | ||
I've got Grant Stinchfield. | ||
Grant, I asked you the other day because nobody better knows the details, the culture of not just gun owners in this country, but also the NRA. I want to play a cold open from the speech the other day and get your get your assessment, sir. | ||
Upon my inauguration, I will direct the FDA to convene and it's so it's going to happen quickly to convene an independent outside panel. | ||
To investigate whether transgender hormone treatments and ideology increase the risk of extreme depression, aggression, and even violence, I think most of us already know the answer, don't we? | ||
Furthermore, we have to look at whether common Psychiatric drugs as well as genetically engineered cannabis and other narcotics are causing psychotic breaks. | ||
And I will ask Congress to send a bill to my desk to learn national concealed carry reciprocity. | ||
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We want protection. | |
Just like your driver's license or your marriage license, your Second Amendment must apply across state lines. | ||
It will. We'll get it done pretty quickly, too. | ||
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Well, hello, NRA. I love you, too. | |
And welcome back to the Hoosier State. | ||
Oh, boy. Grant Stinsfield, compare and contrast what we just saw there, sir. | ||
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Well, that just goes to show you that Mike Pence has no business running for the presidency. | |
I agree with President Trump. | ||
I think Mike Pence probably is a nice man, but he has blown any chance he had at the presidency of how he handled his office himself after January 6th. | ||
I think you see the Patriots in the room there, NRA members, all by and large, for the most part, Trump supporters. | ||
Mike Pence doesn't have a shot at running for the presidency. | ||
He ought to bow out quietly and go on about his business. | ||
On the notion of reciprocity, Steve, you know back in President Trump's first year in office, President Trump actually supported the idea of national reciprocity. | ||
This idea that your concealed carry license acts just like a driver's license. | ||
It's good in every state across the country and may remind people that driving is not a constitutional right. | ||
Carrying a firearm is. | ||
The problem was the Republican-controlled Congress and the Senate couldn't get it done. | ||
I was working at the NRA that year for that time. | ||
We were pushing this so hard and I said we may never get another chance to push reciprocity again. | ||
It is so important for gun owners' rights. | ||
They didn't get it done back then, but boy, could you imagine if we took back Congress? | ||
Now with the America First members of Congress, you just had Matt Gaetz on. | ||
You talk about Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
It's a different Congress than it is back then in 2017. | ||
Have you ever seen, you've been at this for a while, have you ever seen the media firestorm about this maniacal focus to take people's guns? | ||
Have you ever seen anything like this? | ||
Because it's dangerous and I think it's going to get more dangerous. | ||
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I like your thoughts. Well, you know, working inside the NRA, it always felt like it was a constant assault going all the way back to when I first started there, I guess, in 2014, 2015. | |
And it was always a battle. | ||
They were always. But now they literally want to legislate the Second Amendment out of existence. | ||
They deal in lies. | ||
They despise the National Rifle Association. | ||
Nothing's changed there. They still look at that organization with such vitriol. | ||
But I will tell you, the NRA, I really do believe, is too big to fail. | ||
It is one of the most important, if not the most important, civil rights organization we have on the face of the planet. | ||
And you know, I think the most important story to come out of the NRA's annual meetings this weekend, Steve, is the fact that they set records. | ||
77,000 attendees, the numbers are just out now, showed up in Indianapolis. | ||
And I was reading articles in the mainstream media outlets saying that It was noticeably smaller this year, and hotel rooms were on sale. | ||
Meanwhile, what were the real numbers? | ||
Record numbers. They haven't had numbers like this in 12 years, 14 years at least, by what I remember. | ||
So that, to me, says that Americans, by and large, still not only support this organization, but gun rights and the Second Amendment in general. | ||
Grant, you do both the show. | ||
You're on radio. You've got a great feel for people. | ||
I want to turn to Gates. The McCarthy up there, the debt ceiling, Matt says he doesn't have 218 votes. | ||
From your take from people, how big a deal is the spending issue right now, the debt ceiling, all of it, sir? | ||
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I would say it's everything except really what people are worried about is the uncertainty of what's going to happen to America. | |
So ultimately, I think people are really concerned that this communism push and the socialism push take over and the Biden regime continues, whether it's Joe Biden at the helm or some other idiot. | ||
It doesn't matter, right? | ||
Because these elitists, these globalists are all calling the shots. | ||
But when it gets down to it, Right? | ||
Spending is everything here because if we spend our nation into oblivion, then they absolutely will break us. | ||
We'll have no way to pay back these debts. | ||
What they are offering up, the Democrats right now, is nothing short of insanity, it's immaturity, and really it's no regard for the future kids of America. | ||
My 13-year-old, you know, your kids out there, grandkids, whatever it may be for people who are watching. | ||
This is no regard for the future of America unless they want to break us on purpose. | ||
And I think in the end, Steve, that's what people are the most concerned about, is there is this all-out assault on America, American values, to break this nation, to rebuild it back in their sick vision of some socialist communist nation. | ||
So all of it plays in together, but I think people see the big picture that we really are at war. | ||
And I don't mean a physical war, but we're really at a war for the soul of this nation. | ||
Grant, how do people get all your content? | ||
Where do they go? I know you got the show, the radio show, your writing. | ||
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Where do people go? Yeah, man, I'm all over the place, and I'm so blessed to be. | |
Coming up right here on Real America's Voice at 7 o'clock Eastern Time, we got Stinchfield tonight, which is doing phenomenal. | ||
Thanks to guys like you, Steve, and everybody else on this network that just set it up for us at 7 o'clock Eastern, and then I'm on the radio out in Los Angeles. | ||
But the best way is just type in Stinchfield. | ||
My podcast is so important. | ||
Type in Stinchfield. Subscribe to it, please. | ||
I cannot tell you how much it helps me and Stinchfield's army continue to get the word out. | ||
So GrantStinchfield.com, GrantStinchfield.com, and everywhere on social media, Stinchfield1776. | ||
Grant, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
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Appreciate it. I appreciate you, Steve. | |
Thanks. Nobody's got a better feel for the gun owners and the big issues facing this country than Grant. | ||
And boy, we had John Solomon, a blockbuster. | ||
Gates has confirmed all that. | ||
And Solomon said he's going to come back. | ||
I'm telling you, that story is a massive, massive, massive story. | ||
Do I have Mike Davis? Not Mike Davis yet? | ||
Okay, we're going to try to get him up. | ||
I have Mike here because I want Mike to also give his assessment of what went on today with the Judiciary Committee in New York. | ||
Mike's been all over this with Alvin Bragg. | ||
And remember, the pincer movement, always remember the pincer movement. | ||
This is to connect everything back to Merrick Garland's Justice Department. | ||
You got Mike and Going after Matthew Colangelo, that's a big part of it. | ||
You also got Stephen Miller in the American First Legal and others that are connecting what went on in the Mar-a-Lago situation, the special access issue with the Biden administration and Biden knowing this and signing off on taking executive privilege from President Trump, you know, unbeknownst. | ||
And like I say, in the timeline of when they knew, when they were aware that Biden had these problems with his classified documents are going to be absolutely critical. | ||
One of the things with Mike Davis, also there isn't, just so you understand, this is what I was trying to say this morning, this is getting as intense as I've ever seen, and part of it is that they're coming after people in the most vicious way possible. | ||
One of the best men, not just in this city, but one of the best men in modern America, Justice Thomas, is under assault like I've never seen before. | ||
ProPublica and others are coming after him, and they're trying to put that front and center, and they're saying, oh, There's got to be impeachment hearings. | ||
It has to be an investigation already in the Senate. | ||
They're talking about doing this. We wanted Mike Davis to be here and to assess it. | ||
So we'll try to get him in the next block. | ||
The next hour is going to be pure insanity. | ||
I've got Colonel Mills has gone through. | ||
We're going to talk about the cartels. | ||
A lot of talk about the cartels now. | ||
We actually kind of roll out. | ||
I'm not saying an operational plan to take them down, but at least you start to see the interconnected links to the Chinese Communist Party, the interconnected links to fentanyl, to what they're doing and where they actually control Mexico and why they are a massive paramilitary power. | ||
Go to birchgold.com slash Bannon. | ||
You've got to get the third part of the series, The Debt Trap. | ||
Here's why. Kevin McCarthy, the speech he gave today at the Stock Exchange, then he went around, and I gotta tell you, McCarthy was on fire. | ||
That CNBC, they were trying to, they would never treat a Democrat like that. | ||
They came out of him and tried to chop block him, and man, he had the answers. | ||
But here's the key. | ||
Right now, as you just heard from Gates, We have to have a budget that has massive cuts up front. | ||
We're dead-enders here. | ||
Not one penny raised on the debt ceiling because you don't need it. | ||
There's enough cash coming in from, quite frankly, President Trump's tax cuts that drove economic growth in these industries. | ||
You're going to have enough cash coming in to pay all the interest, to pay all the face amount of any government securities. | ||
And then, with these massive cuts, you're not going to need an increase in the debt ceiling. | ||
But you've got to understand this. | ||
The place to start is Birchgold. | ||
Go to birchgold.com. | ||
Get the three-part series now, The End of the Dollar Empire. | ||
Of course, everybody's talking about de-dollarization. | ||
They're talking about the Legion of Doom of Persia, Russia teaming with the Chinese Communist Party, and the Saudis, and Brazil, and Turkey, and all of them, Qatar. | ||
To basically Iraq, who's going to take the oil in Yuan to get off the dollar. | ||
You have to understand this. | ||
This is part of the macroeconomic issue. | ||
You have to understand. Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
There's a lot going on this afternoon. | ||
I've never seen a news cycle like this. | ||
It's only going to get more intense. | ||
We're going to try to get Mike Davis up. | ||
Next hour, we have Colonel John Mills. | ||
We have Naomi Wolf. | ||
We're going to have the... We're going to have the Gateway Pundit guys from Asia. | ||
They're going to be here. | ||
We've got Joe Allen teeing up, the Elon Musk, Tucker interview tonight. | ||
I think it's all going to be on artificial intelligence. | ||
This 60 Minutes tonight on Getter. | ||
We've got the 60 Minutes episode. | ||
We've got Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
We've got Tucker Carlson. We've got Royce White. | ||
Go to Getter. We're going to be on fire tonight in live chats. | ||
Soup to nuts. | ||
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Okay, on Getter tonight, I think we're starting at 8 o'clock. | ||
We're going to do the 60 Minutes. | ||
We're going to do Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
We're going to do Royce White. We're going to do Tucker Carlson Live at 8. | ||
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Check it out. You're going to have live commentary. | ||
I'm going to be dipping in and out, so it'll be fantastic. | ||
Mike Davis, we had a field exercise in New York City today, a hearing that got a little, let's say this, intense. | ||
Your thoughts, sir? I say cheers to House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan. | ||
We've had disagreements in the past over Big Tech. | ||
Still have a disagreement on Big Tech, but we accept converts. | ||
at the Internet Accountability Project. | ||
He should support Senator Mike Lee's Build a Breakup, Google's online advertising monopoly, and we'll be in good shape with him there. | ||
But Jim Jordan got off to a bumpy start, slow bumpy start on oversight, but he is really firing on all cylinders. | ||
He's doing fantastic work. | ||
This is really important work that he's doing because he's showing that Alvin Bragg, the Soros-funded Manhattan DA, has He politicized and weaponized the Manhattan DA's office to get Trump and he's diverting key resources away from real crimes like rapes and robbers and robberies and burglaries and carjackings. | ||
And so it's really good that Jim Jordan was able to go up to Alvin Bragg's home turf and bring in people from Manhattan who are the victims of Alvin Bragg's decision to go after Trump instead of real crimes. | ||
Do you support them going to other cities and continue to do this? | ||
I love it. | ||
I think they should take the show on the road any chance they can. | ||
This is great. | ||
I think it's always good to do field hearings, get out of the swamp and go talk to the real people in real America. | ||
So, yes, they should go to Chicago. | ||
They should go to Atlanta with Fannie Willowstown in Fulton County. | ||
They should take this show on the road. | ||
I know someone that you think very highly of is under assault like I've never seen before, somebody on the Supreme Court, Justice Thomas. | ||
The onslaught continues, is not backing off, and now you're hearing the name Abe Fortas come up. | ||
Walk through your assessment of where we are in this saga of Justice Thomas, sir. | ||
So I clerked on the Supreme Court for Justice Gorsuch, and I got to know Justice Thomas along with his wife, Jenny Thomas, and they are great Americans. | ||
The left has hated Justice Thomas for nearly 40 years. | ||
He was a Democrat. | ||
He was a Marxist, actually, in his youth, and he was a radical, and he got mugged by reality. | ||
He became a conservative. | ||
He grew up dirt poor in the segregated South, the Jim Crow South, down in Pinpoint, Georgia. | ||
And the Democrats have hated Clarence Thomas for 40 years because Clarence Thomas escaped the Democrat plantation. | ||
And Jenny Thomas never worked in the Democrats' kitchen. | ||
So they hate the Thomases. | ||
They know that President Trump transformed the 5-4 John Roberts Court to the 5-4 Clarence Thomas Court. | ||
And he's hugely influential. | ||
His law clerks are serving as federal judges throughout The federal judiciary on state Supreme Courts, key government posts around the country. | ||
And the Democrats are just trying to take him out. | ||
Clarence Thomas has been best friends with Harlan Crow, a wealthy businessman for 25 years. | ||
And Harlan Crow has zero business before the Supreme Court, nothing, not a Zippo. | ||
And Democrats are trying to say that Harlan Crow's The trips that Clarence Thomas took with Harlan Crow are somehow unethical. | ||
They're not. He had no business before the Supreme Court. | ||
Harlan Crow also bought property down in Pinpoint that belonged to the Thomas family because Harlan, Clarence Thomas was going to sell it, according to the CNN reporting today by Arian DeVogue, a very fair Supreme Court reporter at CNN, one of the few. | ||
Harlan wanted to preserve this for a museum for Clarence Thomas down the road. | ||
And so Clarence Thomas took a loss. | ||
He sold this property that his mother was living in, his mother is living in, at a loss. | ||
It came with an occupancy agreement, according to the CNN report. | ||
And the Democrats are trying to turn this into a scandal, calling for his impeachment, calling for investigations. | ||
It's nonsense. I know there is a Democrat Supreme Court justice on the bench right now who has taken many, many, many regular summer trips to a lawyer's beach house in Massachusetts, fancy beach house in Massachusetts, when this lawyer has business before the Supreme Court, including filing before the Supreme Court, and this lawyer sits on a board of a Fortune 5 company that has business before the Supreme Court all the time. | ||
This Democrat-appointed justice didn't disclose these trips. | ||
No one's calling for this Democrat Justice's resignation, but they're going after Clarence Thomas because we have a Democrat White House and a Democrat Senate, and they want to chase him off the bench, and there's no way in hell they're going to chase Clarence Thomas off the bench. | ||
Well, how can the Republicans even stop the Judiciary Committee from having an investigation? | ||
Is there any way to do that? Is the Senate Judiciary, you think, going to open an investigation on this and have hearings? | ||
Well, I mean, they should be careful what they ask for because, you know, we have Clarence Thomas Who took trips with his best friend with no business before the Supreme Court. | ||
At the same time, Joe Biden's taken his scumbag son, Hunter, on trips to Ireland when Hunter has a track record of illegal, corrupt foreign dealings to bring in millions of dollars for the Biden family. | ||
So I think Democrats should be careful what they ask for because Republicans in the House have subpoena power and maybe they want Hunter Biden sitting in front of the bright lights of a committee hearing. | ||
Mike Davis, how do people get all the content that you're putting up all day long, social media and also your site, sir? | ||
Yeah, it's article3project.org, article3project.org, at article3project, at article3project on Getter Twitter Truth. | ||
And my personal is at MRD and then another D-M-I-A, M-R-D-D-M-I-A. And thank you, Steve. | ||
Mike Davis, thank you for being on here and helping us understand this assault on one of the best men in this country, Justice Clarence Thomas. | ||
Okay, short break. | ||
We're going to be back. | ||
The next hour is going to strap in. | ||
It's going to be pretty intense. | ||
But we're going to get through it all. | ||
We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
I've got Naomi Wolf. | ||
I've got Colonel John Mills. | ||
We're going to talk about the cartels. | ||
If you want to take them down, we're going to start laying the intellectual groundwork you need to kind of understand this. | ||
Okay, we've got the Hoffs. I think Jim Hoff is over in Asia right now. | ||
We'll check that out. And of course, Joe Allen's going to be here. | ||
Big interview tonight. Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk. | ||
We're going to connect the dots from 60 minutes to that. | ||
We're going to be the bridging mechanism. | ||
All next, in the War Room. | ||
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