April 13, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The Justice Department arrested Jack Douglas Teixeira in connection with an investigation into alleged unauthorized removal, retention, and transmission of classified national defense information. | ||
| Teixeira is an employee of the United States Air Force National Guard. | ||
| FBI agents took Teixeira into custody earlier this afternoon without incident. | ||
| He will have an initial appearance at the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts. | ||
| I want to thank the FBI, Justice Department prosecutors, and our colleagues at the Department of Defense for their diligent work on this case. | ||
| This investigation is ongoing. | ||
| We will share more information at the appropriate time. | ||
| Thanks, everyone. A relatively short statement there from the Attorney General once again confirming what we have been reporting, and that is the arrest of 21-year-old Jack Teixeira. | ||
| He is an employee of the 102nd Intelligence Wing, the Massachusetts Air Force National Guard. | ||
| He will appear Before a court there, first in Massachusetts, and again, no questions were asked. | ||
| He left after that statement. | ||
| I want to go back to our panel, and I'm sorry that we keep interrupting you, David, but obviously this is a breaking news development. | ||
| If you could go back to the point you were making earlier. | ||
| Yeah, we're starting to get some reporting about the potential motivations here. | ||
| And we're hearing things like that this suspect was heavy into gun culture. | ||
| He may have had some views against the U.S. government. | ||
| There were racist and misogynist things being said on this server. | ||
| And those are potential motivations. | ||
| But when you look at the motivations for someone to spy or to do things like release classified documents, they almost always fall into one or more of four categories. | ||
| The acronym MICE actually helps you remember it. | ||
| M is for money. They're selling the secrets to get money. | ||
| I is ideology. They have some kind of anti-government ideology, and that may be the case here. | ||
| C is compromise or coercion, and E is ego. | ||
| Now, in this case, the reporting we've seen so far really points to the latter of those, that this person appeared to want to impress these men and boys on this private server and was upset when they weren't as excited about seeing the classified information as he thought. | ||
| That's not the kind of motivation we often see in these investigations, but focusing on that is what the investigators are really going to be doing now to figure out what drove this person to use his privileged access to actually release this classified information into the wild. | ||
| Are you concerned about the leak? | ||
| Okay, guys, it's time to go. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| We've got to move. | ||
| I'm not concerned about the leak. | ||
| I'm concerned that it happened. | ||
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But there's nothing contemporaneous that I'm aware of that is of great consequence. | |
| Okay, you're in the war room. | ||
| Wednesday, 13 April, Year of Lord, 2023. | ||
| All things intelligence, we obviously... | ||
| Lean on Jack Posobiec, a Naval Intelligence Officer. | ||
| Jack, you've got to help me out here, brother. | ||
| You know, Biden's sitting there going, nothing to worry about. | ||
| The content of this is explosive, and we're going to talk about that. | ||
| Also, we're special on Human Events daily tonight. | ||
| We've got Ben Harnwell here. | ||
| We have Dr. Bradley Thayer. | ||
| We've got Rebecca Koffler. | ||
| We have Joe Allen. We are all wall-to-wall on intel, geopolitics, warfighting, the Third World War, economics, all of it. | ||
| Jack Posobiec. Please help me out. | ||
| This is Top Secret and it's got the other classifications of even more limited than Top Secret access to these slides. | ||
| This is a Grundune in the Massachusetts Air National Guard. | ||
| It's not the Air Force, it's the Massachusetts Air National Guard, a 21-year-old Grundune. | ||
| You expect me to believe that somebody in the Massachusetts Air National Guard at some Air National Guard base in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts had access to this information, sir? | ||
| Well, Steve, 100%, the Joint Staff Brief, as we talked about a week ago on this program, where we were the first, way before the New York Times, way before CNN, anybody else, That told the truth about United States Special Operators being on the ground in Ukraine. | ||
| War Room was number one on Good Friday morning. | ||
| And I'm here to tell you, and as I said on that same day, that the Joint Staff Briefing is one of the most widely read briefings within the intel community. | ||
| If you have top secret access, if you've got JWICS access, you're definitely reading this brief on a daily basis. | ||
| Every intel analyst, it was required reading. | ||
| When I ran the Intel shop, when I ran an N2 shop, I would always tell people two things to read every morning. | ||
| It's the Joint Staff Brief and CIA wire. | ||
| At least check in with them. So access to it? | ||
| Absolutely. But I think what you're really seeing here is that the entire military industrial complex is losing it. | ||
| That all of their lies about the Ukraine war were completely exposed by a 21-year-old kid. | ||
| Look how fast... | ||
| They went after this guy versus the Dobbs leak, which took place a year ago. | ||
| It's been a year with nothing. | ||
| And the entire media wants you to focus on this kid and the leak and they're calling him anti-American. | ||
| They're saying all these things. | ||
| But what did he do, Steve? He told the truth. | ||
| His biggest crime, his biggest crime. | ||
| was exposing the truth about the Ukraine war that nobody else in the government was willing to do. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying he did it the right way. | ||
| I'm not saying he followed the right channels. | ||
| I get all that. But I am not going to follow the shiny object and go chasing this ball that the media and the government want me to chase because I know that this guy brought forward the receipts and he brought forward the truth. | ||
| I want to go specifically to the content, because Biden just kind of blows it off. | ||
| You've got the air defenses, and I want you to come in. | ||
| You've got the air defenses. | ||
| You have the air defenses shot. | ||
| You've got the ammunition backlog. | ||
| Anything we're shipping there, we're like 13 years behind in production. | ||
| Nothing's going to Taiwan. You've got the casualty rates. | ||
| Of 70,000 Ukraine dead versus 16,000 Russians. | ||
| You've got the spring offensive being a joke, and they know it's a joke, although they're pushing in the media. | ||
| And then you've got the bombshell bombshells. | ||
| Zelensky and the people around him already are open to the fact that the first long-range missile you send, they're launching it right into Russia, and they've said they're going to do it. | ||
| Give me more context here. | ||
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And Steve, the fact that they're spying on Zelensky to get that. | |
| To get the information. | ||
| That's the point. You're an intel officer. | ||
| How explosive is what has been revealed on Ukraine in our current situation there, sir? | ||
| Steve, look at the theater. | ||
| There's a reason that they're putting on the show for us right now. | ||
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This daytime perp walk. | |
| The press briefing that's being done by the Attorney General. | ||
| The media's talking about it day in, day out. | ||
| The Washington Post and the New York Times with their investigative pieces. | ||
| By the way, those pieces by the New York Times and the Washington Post were completely leaked by the national security community to them. | ||
| This wasn't some, oh, we found it on our own through our investigative work. | ||
| No. No, you were handed that on a silver platter and you're telling us a song and dance about, oh, we used highly sophisticated journalism techniques to discover this Discord server and get the guys... | ||
| No, no, here's what happened, Steve. | ||
| I'll tell you exactly what happened. | ||
| The NSA went in and sucked up every piece of Discord that they have to to find out where this thing came from. | ||
| They went to every single member of the Discord that was inside the United States or within their reach. | ||
| And you know what happened? | ||
| People got knocks on their doors and they said, you're gonna get a call from the New York Times and the Washington Post and here's what you're gonna say and they handed them a script. | ||
| And they've got this thing up with the guys in silhouette and all this. | ||
| This guy wasn't a whistleblower. | ||
| This guy wasn't doing the right thing. | ||
| Cut me a break. | ||
| Cut me a break. You guys are in total CYA mode. | ||
| That's why you're getting the theatrics. | ||
| That's why it's total hide the football, because they don't want you talking about the fact that it has now been exposed, that not only have they been lying to us about the Ukraine war, that it turns out the joint staff, which last I checked, Steve, the head of which is chairman of the Joint Chiefs. | ||
| General Milley, they've been lying to us. | ||
| They've been getting briefings. This is a daily brief. | ||
| This is the brief they get every day. | ||
| Every day Milley knows the truth. | ||
| He goes out there. He lies about it. | ||
| Jack Kirby goes out and lies about it to all of us. | ||
| And now we know that they've been doing it deliberately the entire time. | ||
| Jack, it made me feel better here. | ||
| You got Julian Assange. | ||
| You have Snowden. You have all these things. | ||
| This has been up since January on 4chan and Discord and then Telegram. | ||
| Was it months before they even understood that this stuff was coming out? | ||
| How did that happen? How did we have highly classified material that came up on these different chat rooms, etc., for what looks like months? | ||
| Before anybody in authority knew that the stuff was missing or stuff was being viewed outside of people that had the classification clearances to review it, sir. | ||
| Well, Steve, I mean, it's like anything else, right? | ||
| If people are being shared in these private chat rooms, these private servers, which, by the way, I'm just going to say something right now, a word of caution to anyone in the audience, that if somebody comes up to you in a private chat room and says, hey, buddy, do you want to look at some classified documents? | ||
| You want to come You know, come right out of the SCIF and take a look at the PDB downloaded from JWICS, take a look at the Joint Staff Brief, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| I try not to throw out too many acronyms when I'm on War Room here, but, you know, for the audience to look up all that stuff, these are all the various different intelligence products that you would read on a daily basis as an Intel officer. | ||
| This Intellipedia was part of it that's kind of like the Wikipedia of the Intel community. | ||
| So at first, this guy's just sharing, so we're told, right, the story we're told is that he was sharing them out to people in this private server, At one point, he was copying documents and putting the information in. | ||
| Then he moved to printing out documents, taking them home, taking pictures of the documents when he then got home, and then uploading them, I presume, from his phone or some other device to this server. | ||
| So the military would have no way to be able to track that if nobody was talking from inside the server or if they were subpoenaing Discord. | ||
| The only way that they'd be able to do it is if you turned the full force of the NSA on this thing, which obviously they did here. | ||
| Jack, hang on a second. | ||
| We've got a lot more to go through this, plus China, plus Ukraine, all of it. | ||
| I want to bring in Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Ben, we've got a couple of reports I want you to get into. | ||
| One of them is that Breitbart's reporting that Politico, am I hearing this right, that the true, what Macron really said that's worse than what was reported, that Politico cratered To the CCP in Macron's office and taking it down. | ||
| Walk me through that first, because what Macron said, he basically said, hey, the United States is on its own. | ||
| It's on its own about dealing with Taiwan. | ||
| It's on its own with the CCP. It's on its own about its currency. | ||
| Maybe we'll look at alternatives. | ||
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Walk me through this. That's right, Steve. | |
| That is exactly what happened. | ||
| President Macron, d'Élysée-Paris, the official residence of the French president, put pressure on Politico under the terms of agreeing to the interview that the French presidential team would have final approval on all of the quotes released. | ||
| In this interview. And in fact, one of the more incendiary, if I can term it like that, statements that President Macron made about supporting Taiwan was actually cut from the published interview. | ||
| For me, as far as I'm concerned, the story here isn't so much that Politico agreed to these terms. | ||
| According to the Breitbart article, they said that this is really just, they dismissed this as a European convention. | ||
| It's not. I mean, even American newspapers will concede the right to have quotes approved before publication. | ||
| Actually, the real story is exactly this, that in order to appease China, Politico In this interview allowed the French president to remove these quotes about not allowing America to drag Europe, and specifically France of course, into a kinetic war with China to protect the territorial integrity of Taiwan. | ||
| It's an astonishing story. | ||
| Astonishing. Jack Posobiec, let me get your take on that. | ||
| You're going to hang with me for a few minutes. | ||
| Walk me through. You got the one hand, the Ukraine leak, which shows you they know they're losing. | ||
| We're pumping more resources than they are. | ||
| The French and everybody are kind of taking a step back while we pour more money into it. | ||
| Where we really need an ally, it's kind of, hey, fare thee well, devil catch the hindmost. | ||
| Jack Posobiec. Steve, Xi Jinping, and we're going to be doing an entire special tonight on Human Events Daily. | ||
| It is part of our China File series, and we're calling it The Art of the Dragon. | ||
| Because you see what Xi Jinping has done here. | ||
| Using the one belt, one road construct, the dragon has spread its wings to envelop everything from the United States to To Silicon Valley, to Washington, D.C., to now as we see with Macron, to Western Europe. | ||
| And what's the last piece that they want? | ||
| The last piece that Xi Jinping wants is Taiwan Island. | ||
| And we know from Sun Tzu, Steve, we know from reading our Sun Tzu, and I guarantee you the Chinese military reads Sun Tzu, the supreme art of war, the supreme art of war is subduing your enemies without firing a single shot. | ||
| And that's exactly what they're doing. | ||
| They're running the table on us right now. | ||
| President Trump called this out in his interview with Tucker. | ||
| He said Macron's over there kowtowing in a complete show, a complete show of submission, absolute submission, saying we cannot be dependent on the U.S. dollar is exactly what Lula is saying after he landed in Shanghai and he gave the speech. | ||
| We're going to go through all of Lula's speech at the Shanghai New Development Bank. | ||
| Because what he's doing is a declaration of war, reading from the script that Xi Jinping handed him on the U.S. dollar. | ||
| If you don't understand that the de-dollar, I know the war room posse understands this, but you must be clear that Taiwan Island and the de-dollarization of the world are happening simultaneously for a reason. | ||
| They're doing it because it's not even about the military per se. | ||
| It's about the money. | ||
| Follow the money. | ||
| What Jack's talking about, that's why you got to watch Truman Events Daily, the new episode on the Xi files, on the China files. | ||
| This is about the art of the dragon. | ||
| When Lula gets there and it does the thing, that development bank is what I call the BRICS bank. | ||
| That is the Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. | ||
| That's the BRICS bank. I mean, he's sitting in front of it saying, this is going to be the new world order, and we're going to run the deal. | ||
| And now we've got Brazil, your long-term ally. | ||
| Monroe Doctrine, suck on this, right? | ||
| And by the way- And Brazil's not enough, they're going with Mexico too! | ||
| They're going with Mexico, they're coming right up to our fence. | ||
| They're literally coming across our fence. | ||
| The fact that we're letting Mexico Enter into this anti-American economic global alliance just shows the abject failures of Tony Blinken, Victoria Nuland, and everyone in the American foreign policy blob that have been operating for the last 30 years. | ||
| This is what happens when you outsource your foreign policy on your diplomacy. | ||
| To idiots and neocons and neoliberals, these iconoclasts who have no idea how the world works. | ||
| Okay, but you've got to help me out here. | ||
| You just named the guys. | ||
| Nuland and Blinken, they're one million percent focused on Ukraine. | ||
| And I don't want to say it's because of Victoria Nuland's heritage and her family that comes through there and her great parents. | ||
| Be like me, like you focused on Poland and me focused on Ireland. | ||
| It's not acceptable. They're maniacally focused on Ukraine and to the point that they will lie to you to the face about the reality. | ||
| They got to spy on the Ukrainians to find the story. | ||
| They know the story as the league tells you and lie to you. | ||
| Why are they so maniacally focused on Ukraine and are allowing a massive coalition, a legion of doom led by the Chinese Communist Party transnational criminals to run the tables on us, brother? | ||
| Look, people need to understand that you put all your chips in this basket, these Atlanticists, these people, Yes, it's true. | ||
| They do have these age-old grievances, these conflicts that go back hundreds of years, thousands of years in some cases. | ||
| And when you put that ahead of the national good of the United States of America, you are going to fail, and you're going to fail every time. | ||
| Which, by the way, isn't even in the best interests of the people that are in Ukraine that are in the midst of this fighting, which is exactly what came out in these documents. | ||
| They're the ones getting torn up It's their cities, their children in the bombed out shelters and basements. | ||
| Those are the ones that are getting blown up over in search of this utopia that you're never going to create on Earth. | ||
| Jack, when I read that, it goes to that meme that was supposed to be Cuba, that Biden and Blinken and Newland and this crowd are going to fight until the last Ukrainian stand. | ||
| The Ukrainians are in a charnel house. | ||
| They're being tossed in. Let me finish with Ben. | ||
| I'm going to come right back to you. I want to get to Thayer about the operational thing. | ||
| Ben, also the Financial Times, you got the leaks talk about Hungary. | ||
| Hungary's sitting there going, hey, I'm not so sure the United States is really an ally. | ||
| Plus, you got Macron more in the FT, where Macron's really, I mean, he's shown his true colors. | ||
| He's traded us out, and you made the point that, hey, he really went there, not just the head of France, he's really looking to take over and be president of the EU. Walk me through the other reporting from the Financial Times about both Hungary and France. | ||
| Yeah, well, let's start with Hungry, because this is really... | ||
| When I read this in the papers, I had, until they arrested this guy, I always had it in the back of my mind that somebody, perhaps, is playing the American public here, and I just wasn't quite sure who was doing it and to what extent. | ||
| But here was a gem that I saw, and now that we assume that it's absolutely true, the CIA... This is according to the leaked papers. | ||
| The CIA had indicated, it's not known how they did this, but they had intercepted a conversation that President Orban had had with a couple of his top advisers. | ||
| And in that conversation, Orban indicated the United States as one of the three largest threats to his government in Hungary. | ||
| He specifically indicated the US Embassy and said that he was actively attempting to subvert his administration. | ||
| Now, we don't know who the other two threats are. | ||
| The only thing I will say, and here's how I'm going to link this to Macron here, the only thing I will say about this is it's not the United States that's Perceived in continental Europe as being a threat to European Member States sovereignty. | ||
| It's the military, and let's be clear, it's the United States military industrial complex. | ||
| It's the whole thing, what Jack just called the blob. | ||
| That is what terrifies European leaders. | ||
| We know 10 years ago, you know, obviously no lessons have been learned. | ||
| 10 years ago, the CIA was caught intercepting Tendang Street, Angela Merkel, the then-German Chancellor. | ||
| All the European leaders were being intercepted by our supposed ally. | ||
| I have said on a number of occasions, and I know it might sound a little bit edgy, but I have said, That Macron, right, is acting in, he's trying his best to act in France's best interest because from the perspective of Paris, | ||
| sure, you can make the argument that Vladimir Putin is a threat to continental stability, but far more real from the French perspective and these intercept Intercepted remarks here from Orman, I think, absolutely illustrate this. | ||
| Far more threatening in a practical and realistic context to Paris, to Budapest, to London, is the idea that the American government is going to be actively undermining their territorial, their political integrity. What? | ||
| If I might just mention this, what actually the US Embassy has been doing is that it's been Funding a publicity campaign in Hungary to encourage the Hungarians to be more actively support the American position with regards to the war. | ||
| This goes directly against Viktor Orban's position on that, which is a ceasefire and peace negotiations is what's needed to end this war and that America's involvement is actively, you know, as you and Jack were just saying, is actively keeping this war going to the detriment of the lives of innocent civilians, children, and what have you. | ||
| And what America is doing is that it's publishing, it's participating in a propaganda campaign to flip the Hungarian people into moving away from the position that Viktor Orban has, I think, quite sanely Perfectly respectable position. | ||
| I think it's the best position in continental Europe, his position. | ||
| So that's exactly why he's saying, as far as he's concerned, the United States is one of the three big threats to Hungary. | ||
| Now, Macron hasn't been caught saying that, but you can see by his actions that he thinks the same thing, which is why he's working now to try to keep France in with China, which is really part of this trade mission. | ||
| It wasn't a political mission. | ||
| That was just political coverage. | ||
| It was a trade mission. | ||
| He went to Beijing. He took French investors with him. | ||
| And I think that's why Macron is doing this. | ||
| It's not anti-American. | ||
| Some people think that the French are culturally anti-American. | ||
| I think that's missing the point somewhat. | ||
| Obviously, the French are very protective of their language. | ||
| What really concerns France, and France is historically the most, let's say, US cautious member of NATO, what France is trying to do is exactly what Hungary is doing. | ||
| And that is to protect its government from being undermined and subverted by the Victoria Newlands and her ilk in Washington. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, does this shock you as an intelligence officer that a senior guy that's beloved by a big part of the American electorate, Victor Orban, would sit there and go, I've got the CIA actively subverting my government? | ||
| Look Steve, it doesn't surprise me at all, and I'll tell you something right here to the War Room audience. | ||
| I will be traveling to Budapest, Hungary, and I will be speaking at CPAC Budapest. | ||
| With Viktor Orban, with Carrie Lake, with Gavin Wax, and all the other freedom fighters from around the world that are gathering there in a show of support for the freedom fighters of Hungary. | ||
| We are going to make sure that these types of forces that are trying to take him out and trying to take out these freedom fighters do not succeed. | ||
| I want to remind everyone, please check out the Human Events Daily special tonight, see if I got a drop button. | ||
| It's the China Files Part 6. | ||
| What time is it going to be, Jack? | ||
| What time is it going to be? We're going to actually throw it up on our War Room 2 and do a live chat. | ||
| What time? It'll be 10 p.m. | ||
| Eastern. 10 p.m. | ||
| Eastern. Okay, everybody will be on that. | ||
| By the way, I'm going to be part of the 5 May CPAC I'll be doing here from the War Room, giving a live speech like I did in Mexico to support it. | ||
| Jack Posovic, thank you very much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. We'll get all your social media objects going to bounce. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, how do people get to you? | ||
| What's your social media, brother? | ||
| Thanks so much Steve. It's Getter and my surname at Harnwell. | ||
| You can see probably on the strip at the bottom, Harnwell. | ||
| And that's where I'm pushing out. | ||
| There it goes. That's where I push out my news and analysis Steve. | ||
| Thanks so much. Ben, thank you very much. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Dr. Bradley Thayer, an amazing piece today on The Washington Times about actually the critical path of when Xi's going to be ready to mount the invasion or the blockade of Taiwan. | ||
| We're going to go through the details. Rebecca Koffler is going to join us. | ||
| up in New York. Rebecca's got an amazing piece about how she's using artificial intelligence to execute on his war plan. | ||
| Remember, we're in the beginning stages of the Third World War. | ||
| Also, hopefully, we're going to get Joe Allen here with some updates on artificial intelligence in war fighting. | ||
| Short commercial break. We'll be back in the war room in just a moment. | ||
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| One step closer to attacking Taiwan, staging massive military exercises miles off the Taiwanese coast. | ||
| Senior defense officials in Taipei say 12 Chinese warships surrounded the island, simulating a sea and air blockade for the second time in eight months. | ||
| Taiwan's military says three days of war games reveal rapid progress by the Chinese Navy. | ||
| What appear to be the first ever simulations of aircraft carrier strikes with a highly advanced J-15 fighter fleet China calls the flying shark. | ||
| On the Taiwan Strait, China's Shendong aircraft carrier launched 80 fighter jet missions and 40 helicopter flights. | ||
| The drills came with an ominous warning. | ||
| China's military is ready to fight. | ||
| The Taiwanese military issuing a strong condemnation, saying it does not seek to escalate, but is determined to safeguard its sovereignty. | ||
| Is Beijing, in your view, threatening Taiwan with war? | ||
| Yes, indeed. Taiwan's Foreign Minister Joseph Wu speaking exclusively to CNN, condemning China's military moves. | ||
| Menacing imagery shows a barrage of ballistic missiles aimed at the island. | ||
| China launched real missiles over Taiwan for the first time last year. | ||
| Look at the military exercises and also their rhetoric. | ||
| They seem to be trying to get ready to launch a war against Taiwan. | ||
| China calls the drills a serious warning against the Taiwan separatist forces collusion with external forces and a necessary move to defend national sovereignty and territorial integrity. | ||
| China's exercises, like similar drills last August, followed high-profile meetings with U.S. House speakers, Nancy Pelosi in Taiwan, Kevin McCarthy in California. | ||
| Meetings the foreign minister calls crucial to counter decades of diplomatic isolation by Beijing. | ||
| China cannot dictate how Taiwan made friends. | ||
| And China cannot dictate how our friends want to show support to Taiwan. | ||
| Support, including nine rounds of weapons sales to the island under the Biden administration alone. | ||
| US intelligence believes the People's Liberation Army is acting on orders from President Xi Jinping himself. | ||
| The PLA told to be ready by 2027 to take Taiwan by force. | ||
| One US general claiming it could happen even sooner. | ||
| In 2025, two years from now, a war that could involve the U.S. and its allies as this fragile island democracy fights to fend off a future Chinese attack. | ||
| And next time, it may not be a drill. | ||
| But there are concerns tonight that global democracies may not be united, particularly after these comments from the French President Emmanuel Macron. | ||
| On the heels of his state visit to Beijing, he almost was echoing the Chinese President Xi Jinping's talking points. | ||
| He was cautioning Europe against being drawn into a Taiwan crisis, saying that Europe should resist pressure to be a follower of America. | ||
| Well, here in Taipei, of course, lawmakers are asking, why would an advanced democratic country ignore the lives and potential deaths of people in other countries? | ||
| They really say that those comments are puzzling, Erica. | ||
| By the way, when CNN is on its game and not, you know, just going after Trump's derangement syndrome, they can really do it. | ||
| That's a great package right there, very succinct. | ||
| Dr. Thayer, we've discussed our great allies in NATO, led by the French, telling us, hey, sorry guys, you're on your own on this one. | ||
| But your article in The Washington Times today kind of put some order into this. | ||
| There's a very well thought through plan that she is going through as far as these massive naval exercises. | ||
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Can you walk us through it, sir? Sure. | |
| Absolutely, Steve. Good to be with you today. | ||
| China's planning to invade Taiwan. | ||
| That's clear. And we expect that invasion to come before what Air Force General Mike Minahan identified as coming in 2025. | ||
| China has conducted a series of exercises which are preparatory towards an invasion of Taiwan. | ||
| The first was conducted in August of 22, just after Nancy Pelosi, then Speaker of the House, visited Taiwan. | ||
| That was Operation Joint Fire Strike conducted. | ||
| And that was an exercise really to decapitate Taiwan. | ||
| That was to go after leadership targets, command and control targets, which was extremely important. | ||
| What we're witnessing now is the second. | ||
| which is operation essentially anti-air raid and joint sword is a part of that, which is China's exercise to establish air superiority over Taiwan. | ||
| And the third that we anticipate, James Fennell, a retired Navy captain who wrote the piece with me, and When he retired, of course, he was essentially the intelligence director for the 7th Fleet, | ||
| the Pacific Fleet. The third is going to be the joint, essentially, the island landing, joint island landing campaign, which is going to be the amphibious assault, exercising to conduct the amphibious assault against Taiwan. | ||
| And we would expect that Xi has got the big pieces in place for the invasion by the autumn of 23. | ||
| And then it would be a question of when he's going to pull the trigger to invade Taiwan. | ||
| But the decapitation attack, air superiority than the amphibious assault, They've conducted those exercises so they're working out the bugs, right? | ||
| Because military organizations are complex things, you just don't turn them on like a light switch. | ||
| They have to exercise. | ||
| They have to find out what faults they have, what problems. | ||
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| I got August 22 for the decapitation exercise. | ||
| I've got March, April for the air superiority. | ||
| That's where I see all the invasion of the airspace. | ||
| And you see they want a no-fly zone up in the north. | ||
| In August 23, you're saying they're going to do, you and Captain Fennell, they're going to do the amphibious landings or the joint island landings. | ||
| They'll have all three pieces in place ready to go. | ||
| A couple things. Captain Fennell is legendary because he just wasn't head of intelligence for PACCOM and PACFLEET. In Pearl, he actually thought that the military and the administration prior to Trump was so asleep that he went and gave a speech at the Naval Academy and was essentially forced out of the military because he said, hey, we're going to get to a shooting war and we're not ready and nobody's talking about it and we're not getting ready. | ||
| This guy is a national hero, one of the great patrons of our time and knows this stuff to the degree that nobody knows, even Dr. | ||
| Thayer, myself and others. I mean, this piece is so informed. | ||
| A couple of shocking things. | ||
| Number one, the Air Force General was shocking enough, and he was saying, hey, we gotta be ready. | ||
| We're gonna be guns up, weapons free in 2025. | ||
| You and Fennell have moved the timeframe up two years. | ||
| And what's most fascinating about your timeline, the election, the most important election in 2024, Besides, the presidential election is going to take place in January. | ||
| That's the next presidential election in Taiwan, where Terry Guo, the Foxcon, who's a total asset of the Chinese Communist Party, has announced, we defeated him, Miles Guo, myself, and others defeated him in the primary last time, where I think he finished third. | ||
| But this guy's a total asset of the CCP. He's running to be president. | ||
| They would rather take it I think that's right, Steve. Absolutely. First, let me echo and reinforce your remarks about Jim Fennell. | ||
| Jim Fennell is outstanding. | ||
| He's a hero, a true American patriot, who was calling attention to the China threat when No one else was. | ||
| Very few people were identifying this, and he paid a tremendous cost for so doing. | ||
| Your point about the KMT, I think that that's absolutely right. | ||
| The CCP is signaling Taiwan that they're in the sights of the Chinese Communist Party, and so if the KMT wins, And they're able to bring Taiwan under the control of the Chinese Communist Party through nonviolent, non-kinetic means. | ||
| Well, that's clearly favorable. | ||
| That's what they want. | ||
| They want that to happen without the risk of the United States intervening in it or US allies like Japan, Australia and others potentially. | ||
| But they're moving ahead as a very important signal to Taiwan that they're going to be conquered by China. | ||
| And a key part of our piece was we're just asleep at the switch. | ||
| There's so much that we need to do. | ||
| It's nice that Biden is in Ireland, but he should be in Taiwan today, not in Ireland. | ||
| He should be ensuring that... | ||
| Yes, Steve? | ||
| When you bring up this, quite frankly, even to the planners, and your piece was very, very informed. | ||
| But for me, even myself, who stays pretty up on these topics, I was shocked by seeing the third piece come in August of 2023. | ||
| Because they've kind of moved. | ||
| Minifil wasn't totally wrong. | ||
| They have moved their planning up. | ||
| Part of it, I think, is they see the alliance coming together, the problems in Ukraine. | ||
| They see Brazil. | ||
| You've got Lula over there right now. | ||
| They're at the flood tide. | ||
| But do you and Fennell believe that operationally, that after this August or September this fall, that they will actually be ready for a kinetic strike into Taiwan where it would be very tough for the 7th Fleet, as it exists today, as it's armed today, with the personnel and the training, which I don't think some of the training is that great, is prepared to stop them. | ||
| Two points, Steve. First, you want to keep in mind that events happen very quickly in international politics. | ||
| July 26, 1941, the Roosevelt administration freezes all Japanese assets, thus cutting Japan off from bulk fuel oil and aviation gas, as well as other petroleum products. | ||
| So December 7, they hit us, so about four months later. | ||
| So we want to keep in mind that events can happen very quickly in international politics. | ||
| Secondly, Xi Jinping is determined to do this. | ||
| So, keeping in mind events happen fast, he's driving it. | ||
| And that's really important. | ||
| Related to that, we do not have the forces in place. | ||
| The US Navy is essentially balanced 50-50 between the Atlantic and the Pacific. | ||
| That should be easily 75 in the Pacific versus 25 in the Atlantic. | ||
| There's so much that we need to do, both in terms of sending military capabilities in the area, reinforced by key allies like Japan and other states, as well as sending political messages, willpower. | ||
| That is, we need to deter this war. | ||
| This war is coming. We need to deter it. | ||
| And that means having military capabilities, including nuclear capabilities, which are necessary here, And political will to back up the use of force or potential use of force. | ||
| We need to deter this war, not have Taiwan fall. | ||
| If Taiwan falls, we're in a very, very dark world, as you've identified many times in terms of economic consequences. | ||
| It was announced today. | ||
| I got it up on Getter. It was announced today, the Oracle of Omaha. | ||
| This guy's one of the savviest investors in the world. | ||
| He's been one of the big believers in Taiwan Semiconductor. | ||
| He wanted to have a big stake in something leading edge. | ||
| He dumped all $4 billion he sold Warren Buffett sold it, and he said the reason he sold it, the threat of war. | ||
| When Warren Buffett, hey, when Warren Buffett's bailing out of an asset that's been a great stock for him, it's time to really think that's a smart guy. | ||
| Hang on for a second, Dr. | ||
| Thayer. Rebecca Koffler, amazing piece in Fox today about she and artificial intelligence. | ||
| Talked to us about the piece. | ||
| Talked to us about what America, you know, that we are not prepared. | ||
| Frank Gaffney said it best. | ||
| It's one thing about Korea and Vietnam and Afghanistan and Iraq when you can leave and say, hey, we just got a patience. | ||
| It's another thing to catastrophically lose a major great power conflict with 10,000 or 12,000 sailors going to the bottom of the Straits of Taiwan or the South China Sea. | ||
| Psychologically, the United States may never recover from that. | ||
| Talk to us about what Xi's got in store for us with artificial intelligence. | ||
| Exactly, Steve. | ||
| Just like Bradley Thayer said, we have been sleeping at the switch, not just for years, but for decades at this time. | ||
| Both Xi Jinping and Putin are joining forces to weaponize artificial intelligence against the United States, whom they both view as their primary adversary and their primary target. | ||
| Xi Jinping actually directed his government and his military to become the leader in artificial intelligence and surpass the United States in just a few years by 2030. | ||
| They adopted their national artificial intelligence strategy back in 2017. | ||
| Almost 16 months after they had a wake-up call, what happened was Google enabled AlphaGo, artificial intelligence capability, defeated the world champion in Go, the Chinese ancient game. | ||
| This North Korean champion, he was unbeatable until then, and so this was just a wake-up call to the Chinese, and they immediately decided that they are going to weaponize this capability, | ||
| and they're talking about their doctrinal Specialists that have been trying to work out a warfighting strategy to defeat the United States. | ||
| The so-called, your listeners know about unrestricted warfare, right? | ||
| So one of the tactics that they talk about is swarming. | ||
| And artificial intelligence is an enabling technology, right? | ||
| It simulates human cognitive process. | ||
| It can make decisions. | ||
| And so it is what effectively what Chinese are doing is they're using it in a destructive way. | ||
| It becomes a force multiplier. | ||
| If you enable your cyber attacks or your kinetic weapons with AI, the effect can be as destructive as an effect produced by the nuclear weapons only without the mushroom cloud. | ||
| This is why the Chinese favor that type of technology. | ||
| And so the swarming tactic, one of the ways that they envision of defeating or even preventing the U.S. from intervening in the conflict in Taiwan because we are the only country that hopefully is capable of preventing that from happening. | ||
| But what they want to do is flood the U.S. airspace. | ||
| with objects. | ||
| If you think about the spy balloon, right, that traversed the entire United States undetected. | ||
| Imagine 100 of such balloons enabled by AI, enabled with both kinetic and non-kinetic payloads, or even some of the Payloads could be CAMBIO, right? | ||
| And if NORAD, the North American Airspace Defense Command, had trouble detecting one balloon, right? | ||
| Because it flew at the altitude on which we just don't have the capability of looking at. | ||
| Imagine a hundred of those balloons and we used $400,000 missile to strike that one balloon. | ||
| So this is the type of warfare that the Chinese want to exploit. | ||
| What they talk about in unrestricted warfare is Americans using golden bullets to strike birds, right? | ||
| And what they want to do is deplete our weapons arsenal even in the run-up to the conflict so that they win without fighting. | ||
| And you know, in the security briefings, you see that we're 13 years, I mean, we've run out of ammo, we're shoveling it all in. | ||
| You actually had the Secretary of the Navy, he took it down, but he tweeted two months ago, hey, we've got to slow down the Ukraine, we're not going to have anything for the South China Sea. | ||
| Taiwan, they may even take it down. | ||
| Rebecca, we've got to bounce. This article is amazing. | ||
| How do people get to you and your writings? | ||
| RebeccaKoffler.com is my website. | ||
| I regularly write my unclassified intelligence analysis on foxnews.com, on newyorkpost.com, and I post it on my social media at RebeccaKoffler0132 on Getter, Twitter, and True Social. | ||
| This piece is up on Fox News. | ||
| It's absolutely incredible. Rebecca Koffler, DIA, a former DIA. Thank you very much for joining us, ma'am. | ||
| Thank you for having me, Steve. | ||
| Dr. Bradley Thayer, we're in it now, brother. | ||
| You've warned about this for years. | ||
| You've written books on this. You're a specialist in this. | ||
| We've got about a minute and 90 seconds left. | ||
| What would you like to see out of the Biden regime or in the House? | ||
| You had McCarthy meet. But what actions would you like to see now to know that somebody's awake and understands that Xi is rolling and he's rolling hard towards a kinetic war? | ||
| Biden's got to give a major speech on Taiwan and he's got to say that Taiwan is in the national interest of the United States and will defend it in conjunction with our allies like Japan who conveyed to us that if we stand on Taiwan, the Japanese will join us as well as other allies like the Australians. | ||
| So that's very significant. | ||
| We need to establish the political willpower. | ||
| We're establishing an extended deterrent to Taiwan. | ||
| Secondly, you've got to flow the weaponry into it, whether that's Allied Japan, certainly. | ||
| Troops have got to be deployed, but US military forces have got to be deployed in the area. | ||
| Naval forces, Marines, Air Force, Army have got to be there today, not just in the hundreds that they've revealed publicly that are present on Taiwan, but orders of magnitude more. | ||
| We've done this before. | ||
| We know how to deter an existential threat. | ||
| We did it with the Soviet Union. | ||
| We had the Central Front on the inter-German border during the Cold War and we need to have a new Central Front with Taiwan today because we want to deter the conflict. | ||
| We don't want to fight the conflict. | ||
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But if it does come, we're going to have to win it. | |
| Bradley Thayer, how do people get to you? | ||
| I'm at Bradley Thayer, Getter and Truth and CenterForSecurityPolicy.org. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. Thanks very much. | ||
| Thanks, brother. 10 a.m. | ||
| tomorrow morning, we come back. | ||
| We are scheduled to have Laura Logan is going to join us and give us her perspective on where actually we stand here in the United States with our sovereignty and throughout the world. | ||
| Until tomorrow morning at 10 a.m., this is Stephen K. Bannon. |
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