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Episode 2641: Meltdown Of The World Order; The Lost Decade
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
rick santelli
Thanks for joining us.
Remember, if it's under, it'll be the fourth week it'll be under, and we break that streak.
It is above 200,000, 228,000.
It certainly seems as though whoever was buying treasuries pushing rates down Had a pretty good guess there.
And that is the first time we've been over 200,000 since the first week in March.
And that was 212,000.
Last time we had a number around 228,000.
You have to go all the way back to 231,000.
That was the first week in December of last year.
And on continuing claims, not only did we pop above 1.7 million, we popped above 1.8.
$8 million. Watch these yields continue to move lower.
Equities? Well, there's a lot of reasons it may or may not follow suit.
$1,823,000.
$1,823,000.
The last time we were that high, buckle up, December 10th, the week of December 10th of 2020.
And at that point, it was over 1.9.
So this is really a biggie.
And with regard to equities, it becomes a little bit tough because obviously when claims are going up, that most likely is going to be a less tight labor market.
We see much of the data is implying a weaker economy.
We've seen many guests change.
It's a point to either flight to safety in treasuries or a slowing economy.
The problem or the issue is that both of those dynamics cause buying, pushing yields down.
Now, that really isn't a problem, but it can be a problem, especially if the equity markets view that as more of a symbol of a stagflation-type banner, and that certainly seems to be the direction many investors' strategy seems to be aiming.
unidentified
Becky......by threats from China...
House Speaker Kevin McCarthy and a bipartisan congressional delegation at the Reagan Library in California, side by side with Taiwan's President Tsai Ing-wen in a strong show of support.
Our bond is stronger now than at any time or point in my lifetime.
Today, the peace that we have maintained and the democracy which have worked hard to build are facing unprecedented challenges.
At her suggestion, they're meeting in the U.S., less provocative than the Speaker's original plan to go to Taiwan, as then Speaker Pelosi did in August.
That sparked a furious barrage from China of missiles over the self-governing island that China declares its territory.
Beijing saying the meeting undermines China's sovereignty.
This is a bipartisan meeting of members of Congress who are honored to spend some time with you.
Tensions between the U.S. and China already high, including over China's FI balloon, which NBC News reported exclusively was picking up electronic signals intelligence while making repeated passes over sensitive U.S. military sites before the U.S. finally shot it down off the Atlantic coast.
Meeting with President Tsai in the United States is going to further escalate the tensions.
No, it shouldn't by any means.
I mean, I would sit down with President Xi.
What I think would foster a worse situation is a lack of communication.
But still looming, U.S. intelligence officials say China is likely to invade Taiwan within the next five years.
willie geist
Andrea Mitchell reporting for us there.
Meanwhile, overnight, House Foreign Affairs Chairman Michael McCall and a bipartisan delegation of lawmakers did land in Taipei for a three-day visit.
Chairman McCall telling reporters they would not be intimidated by China's, quote, saber-rattling.
Joining us now, former Treasury official and Morning Joe economic analyst Steve Ratner.
And president of the Council on Foreign Relations, Richard Haas.
Guys, good morning. Richard, I'll start with you on the visit by the Taiwanese president to the Reagan Library in California yesterday with Speaker McCarthy.
It was bipartisan. Decent diplomacy there by the speaker, it appeared.
unidentified
I thought it was decent diplomacy by everybody.
The whole idea that the speaker didn't go there, to Taiwan, but instead was agreed to meet the president of Taiwan here, already good.
This was just a transit on her part to the United States, heavily choreographed, wasn't quote-unquote a visit.
She didn't meet with administration officials.
She didn't give a speech.
What they did was a press conference.
So it was all within the parameters of the US, Taiwan, China sort of understandings.
And you also have a situation where the mainland doesn't want a crisis right now because while President Tsai was here, the leader of the other party in Taiwan was in Beijing.
And they didn't want to do something big and nasty because they don't want to provoke a sort of domestic reaction in Taiwan.
You've got elections in Taiwan in less than a year, presidential elections.
So for everybody, for various reasons, was kind of on their best behavior, and it really, I thought, was very successful, fairly subtle diplomacy.
willie geist
A lot of delicate choreography going on there.
Steve, you're just back from Beijing.
What's the view from the other side of this, inside China?
unidentified
Well, the view from China, I think, certainly among the business community, the people I met is one of nervousness, because for all of the calmness that Richard described around this visit, tensions are nonetheless elevated from where they had been.
And everybody in China recognizes that to move against Taiwan risks some major, major conflagration, confrontation, whatever's going to come of it.
And everywhere you go in China, they are talking about Taiwan and what's going to happen in Taiwan because it is as much a problem for them as it is for us in a way.
rachel maddow
NBC News has projected a result in the very important Wisconsin Supreme Court election tonight.
Janet Protosiewicz is the more liberal of the two candidates, Dan Kelly the more conservative of the two candidates.
This is considered broadly to be the most important election in the country, the most consequential election in the country in the year 2023.
As you see with these elections here, the projected winner is Janet Protosiewicz.
The more liberal of the two judicial candidates here, this has very big consequences for Wisconsin and indeed for the country.
I will just point out a couple of things here.
This may very well mean that there is a deciding vote on the Wisconsin Supreme Court that results in abortion being legal in Wisconsin instead of illegal.
It also means that Wisconsin, which is arguably the most gerrymandered state in the country, may finally get what are considered to be fair maps rather than radical Republican maps.
I will also say that the Wisconsin Supreme Court is the one Supreme Court in the nation That agreed to hear Donald Trump's challenges to the 2020 election, and it was only by one vote that they refused his demand to throw out hundreds of thousands of votes in Democratic cities in Wisconsin, thereby giving him that state's election result when he had not, in fact, won it.
And now the majority on the Wisconsin Supreme Court for the first time in more than a decade will flip from hard-right conservative control to progressive control.
That is a huge deal in Wisconsin.
unidentified
Okay, ending our cold open, Denver, please keep that playing.
steve bannon
Right there, that is France today.
That is the BlackRock headquarters.
It is Holy Thursday, the 6th of April in the year of our Lord, 2023.
And the French people, people in the streets, are letting folks know what they think about some of the people that are controlling the country, and it's getting very hairy over there.
unidentified
That's the destruction of the lobby and part of the building that BlackRock is in.
steve bannon
Welcome. Like I said, Holy Thursday, 6 April, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
unidentified
You're in the war room.
steve bannon
I've got my wingman this morning for the next couple hours.
It's going to be Dave Brett. He's going to come in and out.
I've got John Fredericks.
We're packed. Mike Davis, a very special package we're going to do on Mike Davis.
He was on CNN last night.
I think we're trying to get Dr.
Shiva on this Twitter thing.
There's a lot going on. Taiwan from Beijing.
To Moscow, to Ukraine, to the South China Sea, the Straits of Taiwan, the capitals of the world, the money markets, all of it converging as we told you it was going to.
The headline today in the Financial Times of London, if we can pull that up, and also Politico.
Politico's got a headline that says that Washington now struggles with the specter of the lost decades.
As we've warned about, The lost decades of what Japan has gone through since the 1990s has never been able to pull out of.
The lost decades is now upon the United States.
The policymakers can't lie about it anymore.
The jobs report today, the bottom's falling out of the tech industry.
Part of that is cyclical.
Part of that is the created crises of the Biden regime.
Part of that is artificial intelligence, which nobody's been reporting except us.
We're going to get into all of it.
I've got John Fredericks.
I have up on NowGetter pinned the New York Magazine interview with me from 2018, five years ago.
Five years ago. It talks about the collapse of 2008 and how it led to Donald Trump.
I want everybody today when you get time or over this most somber weekend to read that.
Five years ago I give an interview that I could have given this morning.
I could have given this morning.
I don't think there's one false beat in it.
I've got John Fredericks who remembers that time.
We want to talk about the collapse in Wisconsin so we're going to tie it all together now.
And give you the information that you need.
And here's the reason we do this, and we do this show in such a sophisticated manner, is that you are really what stands between the Judeo-Christian West and the abyss.
You're not only the chairman of the creditors committee for this nation, you're also the guardians of the traditions and the civilization, and it is coming unwound rapidly.
It's coming unwound rapidly, and only you can stand in the breach.
Dave Bratt, give me your assessment.
I'll go to John Furniture in a second.
Give me your assessment of the economic news as you see it coming forth this morning, sir.
dave brat
Yeah, well, what a day of news.
It's just all coming into view.
It all fits together.
It all fits the narrative everyone on the War Room has been talking about for three years.
It's good to be the wingman today.
That means you get bombarded with every news article there is in the world at 4 a.m.
in the morning and get to share in Steve Bannon's sleep cycle with MyPillow.
So I've been preparing, but what you just said is the key.
This audience is just the absolute key to the maintenance of the values and virtues of the Judeo-Christian West on this Maundy Thursday going into Easter weekend.
I hope you all dive into the meaning of what's there.
And then, you know, Politico, the lead headline today on the lost decade, right?
You think Japan immediately...
When their banking got into bed with the government and caused the lost decade or two for Japan, we're there right now.
Everything's falling apart, right?
The labor market, 600,000 jobs lost.
We got artificial intelligence coming on.
That's a further threat to jobs.
Kids got to get educated in that world.
But the SVB crisis It's just a summary statement.
In one week, the Federal Reserve balance sheet was going down by $700 billion off of the balance sheet, which was good news.
Then you get SVB and this credit crisis.
That's going to be the key story going forward on this crackup of the economy.
I think the Federal Reserve has lost a lot of its power.
Now, commercial banking and tight credit is going to be the lead story And so right after the SVB and the other big banks that were near fail.
steve bannon
Well, here's what it's going to happen because the other shoe that's going to drop, now you have the implosion in tech and you see the layoffs.
That leads into the commercial office space.
Remember, a lot of this incremental commercial office space was tech, all this big tech buildup.
They got it. Then during pandemic, they found out they didn't need it.
Now you've got this bottom blow.
There are $3 trillion, $3 trillion of commercial loans that have to be refinanced.
I think half of that, 1.5 trillion, half of it has to be refinanced within the next 12 months.
That is principally held, I believe, 60 or 70 percent by, wait for it, regional banks.
And to refinance them at these higher interest rates, as you know, Dave Brat, it's not going to happen.
These developers are going to get wiped out.
They're just going to be handing buildings back to these banks, and the bank's not going to know what to do with it.
The bank's going to sit there, okay, I've got a building where I do.
Brat, hang on for a second.
Dave Brat, the... The dean of the business school at Liberty University, one of the finest institutions of higher learning in our nation.
John Fredericks is with us.
Mike Davis. We've got a big report of CNN last night.
Mike Davis was on. So we are packed wall to wall.
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Okay, short break. John Fredericks, Dave Brett, Mike Davis, all next in The War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
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MyPillow.com, promo code WARUM. John Fredericks, I had to bring you on two things.
Number one, I listen to the show and I understand your audience, which is also our audience, a little upset about Wisconsin, as they should be.
But also 2008, it's converging right now.
We're going to have the mother of all recessions, depressions upon us because they've run out of card tricks that they can pull.
So that's why I put up the interview from New York Magazine that goes back to 2008.
I want you to connect dots from yourself of what happened to you then, what it's like to be at the receiving end of this, and what Tuesday night represents for our movement in our country.
john fredericks
It was 9.15 a.m.
on a Saturday morning.
I took my son Joseph to baseball practice.
I'm sitting in the bleachers.
I get a text from Curtis Ellis.
Since passed. Warrior.
My best friend.
He texted me your article in the New Yorker.
And he said, Johnny, you need to read this.
I read the article.
And I got so upset by it that my son had to come over and ask me if I was okay.
I printed that article out in the New Yorker, and it's in my bag.
I read that article every day at 4.30 in the morning.
Not once a month, not once a week.
I read it every day.
Because your piece in that New Yorker Is the reason I'm here.
It's the reason I get up at 345 every day.
It's the reason my wife and I have taken on this debt.
It's the reason we have this company.
It's the driver of what we're doing.
That article is on my desk right now.
I read it every day. If you look at what happened in Wisconsin on Tuesday.
We got to get our head out of the sand.
This is the biggest disaster you can imagine.
And nobody even has any idea what the hell happened.
We got beat by 10 points in a judgeship by an activist, communist, left-wing judge who outspent the Republican Dan Kelly $14 million to $3 million.
Whitewashed him by 10 points.
This was a blowout.
They went in to Tuesday down.
Get this. You gotta get this.
They went in down by 150,000 votes at 7 a.m.
when the polls opened on Tuesday.
You can't freaking win.
This guy was abandoned by everybody.
Where was Ronna McDaniel?
Nowhere to be found. Where was the RNC? Well, I guess it was a spa day that day.
Where was Reince Priebus?
Where was Scott Walker?
Where was anybody? They abandoned this guy.
Now Ronna comes on and she says, oh, the messaging was bad.
Well, where the hell were you?
You're supposed to help with the messaging.
Isn't that your job?
When we went to Dana Point and opposed her, I told you this was going to happen.
They have no infrastructure.
They have no plan.
Here's the problem.
Here's what the Democrats have done.
And they showed you in Wisconsin, right up in your grill, they have a system for getting ballots.
An early vote system, a mail-in system, a balance box system.
They have a system of getting votes in early, and it is getting better.
Each cycle, it gets better.
They've got the NGOs.
They've got the non-profits.
They have figured this out. We have nothing.
Then what happens on game day?
That's when our people vote.
Well, we're not getting our people out and we're not getting the majority.
Why? Because we're chasing down high propensity voters on game day because we spent two years telling people not to vote early.
Dumbest thing we ever did.
Now we're stuck with it. The Democrats are spending $200 a pop going after low-propensity voters on game day because their high-propensity voters already voted.
And they got all this money.
And we're doing nothing.
There's no infrastructure.
There's no plan.
This is a complete and utter disaster.
What this did is it narrowed the path for Trump to 270.
It now makes it tougher.
That's why they put $14 million in it.
Obama was there. Clinton was there.
Schumer was there. All the big Democrats were there.
No Republicans were there. Nobody.
Nothing. Abandoned. Again.
Because we just have no plan.
This lady, Janet Prostakowicz, who's a communist, Campaign for a judgeship, Steve, like she was running for U.S. Senate.
It was all activism. I'm going to let you get abortions on demand.
I'm going to let the transgenders in the schools.
I'm going to get the parents out.
I'm going to change the maps.
The other guy, Dan Kelly, nice enough guy, well, he campaigned the old way.
I'm a Constitution conservative.
I'm going to follow the Constitution.
The Democrats and the Communists have taken this thing over, and they understand how to get their base out.
We're still trying to vote on game day.
The Republican Party of Wisconsin begged on their website.
They begged people to vote early.
We wouldn't do it.
And then we don't get the turnout. We can't figure out why we're getting beat.
This person, this was supposed to be a toss-up.
They got beat by 10 points.
You can't go into election day down in a special election by 150,000 votes.
That's like my son going into To pitch tomorrow, and you spot the other team 10 in the first inning.
steve bannon
You can't win. We had Rachel Maddow on, I think in a clip in the cold open, that talked about the reason they focus on this.
This was the one place that it went to the state Supreme Court.
About all the stealing, all the illegal ballots, and quite frankly, a Republican justice voted against us.
We lost 4-3, but the minority opinion lays out exactly how they stole the election.
Lays it out. That's what they had to take.
That's why they moved heaven and earth.
It's just not about abortion.
It's not about the voter ID. It's not about the redistricting.
Those are all important.
Don't get me wrong. And they led with abortion.
But they understand. We talk about the narrow path.
I just don't see a path.
Look, the economy's collapsing.
So we're in the third world where we're starting.
So everything's up in the air.
But just looking at the cold logic of this, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona, you got to take.
You can't count on Michigan.
You can't count on Pennsylvania because you can't.
Those three are must-haves.
You don't must-have those. You're not back in the White House.
Am I incorrect on that, John Fredericks?
john fredericks
No, listen, we got three states we have to win or there's no pathway, and the Democrats knew this, and they figured it out, and we did nothing, and we have no infrastructure.
I mean, this is what people got to wake up and realize, right?
And you can go and look.
They're stealing elections, no question about it.
But in order to compete, you got to have an infrastructure.
We don't have one. Nobody's bothered to build one.
Two years later, we don't have what they have.
They're getting better. We're getting worse.
And I want to get back to your article.
When you wrote that article and I got it from Curtis on that Saturday, I remember texting you.
I don't know if you remember this because I was very...
Look, don't make me cry again.
I was very emotional.
And I texted you and I said, you wrote this article for me, Steve.
This is all about me.
This is all about my family.
That article you wrote, I know you wrote that piece and it was written in your comments.
Was because you know what happened to me and my family.
And now we're facing it again.
Everybody's facing it again.
And so, look, this all ties in.
We're on the brink.
We've got to get our act together.
There's no infrastructure in place in a swing state for us to win Wisconsin.
This has got to be the wake-up call.
And these people at the RNC, where were they?
Where was Ronnie here?
And then she gets on Fox News and she's like, Well, you know, the messaging was not really a good message.
It was about abortion.
No, it's about you guys suck.
That's what it's about. You have no plan.
And why don't you own up to it?
If she was the CEO of a corporation with shareholders, after Wisconsin, they would have called an emergency worker.
Board meeting that night, flew everybody in, fired her at 815, and come in with a cardboard box and security to get her the hell out of there.
That's where we are right now.
steve bannon
John Fredericks, how do people follow you, particularly over the holiest days on the Christian calendar and Passover?
unidentified
How do people get to you? He is risen.
john fredericks
At JF Radio Show, that's all you have to do.
All the social media's there.
At JF Radio Show, you can download my free app for the radio.
We're also on Get Her Live.
Just go to johnfredericksradio.com.
Steve, thank you for that interview in The New Yorker to this day.
I read it every day. Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother. Appreciate it, John Fredericks.
And I want people to read this today also and to reflect of where our country is because that is an interview given in 2018, but it talks about 2008, the fuse that was lit that brought Donald Trump to power in 2016.
As I put up on Getter when I pinned it last night after some people had sent it to me, I pinned it and said, The next collapse is coming now in 2023, and this will bring Trump back to power.
But that ain't going to happen unless we take care of our own business.
The Democrats are doing what they do.
They're total American Bolsheviks.
The judge they ran in Wisconsin is a Bolshevik.
She's a radical Marxist.
Radical, not progressive, it's a radical.
Wisconsin's the home of the progressive movement, right?
This ain't progressive movement.
These are American Bolsheviks.
No difference in what she stands for really at the end of the day than what Alvin Bragg and George Soros stand for.
And you see, that's the bid and the ask.
There's no middle ground here.
None. Zero. And they're not going to give us any middle ground and we shouldn't expect them to.
You win, you win. Okay, we're taking a short commercial break.
Very special. We're going to do something different when we come back.
We're going to see Mike Davis.
We're going to see Mike Davis in his maiden voyage on CNN last night.
It was a classic, one for the ages.
Mike Davis will also join us.
Short break. Dave Brett is my wingman.
We're going to have Dr. Shiva.
Dr. Shiva, we told you when Dr.
Shiva had this lawsuit against Twitter, he found the back door in his lawsuit.
We're going to get all of that next in the world.
unidentified
A Trump legal ally and former Gersuch clerk.
Mike, thanks for your time tonight.
So you just heard Donald Trump.
That was just one of many attacks he made last night.
Why target the judge like that in particular?
mike davis
Well, I think President Trump understands that this is a political prosecution against him by a George Soros-funded Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg.
unidentified
Okay, let me just stop you right there.
George Soros donated to a PAC that then donated to Alvin Bragg.
mike davis
Go ahead. Okay, so it was George Soros' money that went to support Alvin Bragg's campaign.
The prior Manhattan D.A. declined to prosecute these charges.
At Alvin Bragg's urging when Alvin Bragg worked for the Attorney General's office, the Manhattan U.S. Attorney declined to prosecute these charges.
The Federal Election Commission declined to prosecute these charges.
And Alvin Bragg himself declined to prosecute these charges until he started taking heat from the left.
And so then Alvin Bragg recruited one of the top officials from the Biden Justice Matthew Colangelo, he was in the number three office in the Biden Justice Department to come revive this dead case in the Manhattan DA's office.
They brought these bogus political charges against President Trump, and then he finds out that this judge actually donated to Biden's campaign.
So that at least raises the appearance The appearance that this judge could not be impartial against President Trump.
unidentified
You threw out a lot there. Let me just go back and fact check a few things.
First of all, Cy Vance, who was the former DA in Manhattan, he said that the prosecutors, the federal prosecutors, asked him to step away from this case.
That was something that they were looking at.
At the time, we've heard from Alvin Bragg saying that he developed new evidence, which is why this case was brought back.
So those are a few aspects.
But we're talking about the judge in particular in this case, right?
Trump went after this judge only hours after the judge warned him in that courtroom, do not engage in rhetoric that has the potential to cause harm to anyone, to incite violence.
mike davis
Was it wrong for former President Trump So, I'm not understanding what President Trump said there that could potentially incite violence, and I find it very interesting that the same Democrats who are criticizing President Trump now because he's getting railroaded And New York were awfully quiet when Democrats were running illegal obstruction of justice campaigns outside of Supreme Court justices' homes for months,
still running them, that led to a 1 a.m.
assassination attempt against Justice Kavanaugh, his wife, Ashley, and their two teenage daughters.
unidentified
I'm not sure about the Democratic conspiracy, but that's not even what I'm asking you about.
So let's focus on exactly what we're talking about.
Trump called the judge Trump-hating.
He said this is a Trump-hating judge, that his daughter was involved in And the concern is that that could go against exactly what the judge had asked for in the courtroom.
Because as you well know, the former president has a fervent, devout group of followers.
mike davis
You know that. Well, I mean, are these the same followers who tried to kill Justice Kavanaugh in his home?
unidentified
Okay, we're focusing on this topic.
We're focusing on this topic. But how much of this has to do with trying to get the judge off of this case, in your view?
mike davis
Well, I mean, if the judge has the appearance of bias, which it looks like he does, he donated to Joe Biden's campaign, he should get off this case.
And this judge has a history with President Trump in prior cases.
So maybe that's what President Trump is referring to.
unidentified
This case is now moving into discovery.
What kind of fight should we expect to see from the Trump team?
Will lawyers try to delay as much as they can, pushing it toward the election?
mike davis
I don't understand why the lawyers would want to delay this case at all.
It's a dog of a case. Even the New York Times and the Washington Post have pretty much laughed at this case.
It's a joke of a legal theory that Alvin Bragg is pursuing.
It's clearly a political hit.
He's colluding with Matthew Colangelo from the Biden Justice Department to use legal lawfare here to get Trump.
unidentified
And let me just say, too, we should note that one of Trump's attorneys, Joe Tecapina, he openly says that the judge in this case is not biased.
That is important to note here.
And what evidence do you have that they are colluding in this conspiracy that this former DOJ employee under Biden is colluding in this conspiracy against Trump?
What evidence do you have?
Because I've heard you in other interviews bring up that same exact thing.
mike davis
Well, Matthew Colangelo was the number two to the number three in the Biden Justice Department.
And then in December, Alan Bragg hired him to go work in the Manhattan DA's office.
Do you think that there were any conversations, or do you think Matthew Colangelo just quit his job in the Biden Justice Department and went and knocked on Alan Bragg's door in Manhattan?
Clearly, they had discussions.
And I hope that House Judiciary Committee Chairman subpoenas those records from the Biden Justice Department and the communications between Bragg and Colangelo.
unidentified
Do you think that this will end up going to trial?
mike davis
It will probably go to trial because I don't think Trump's going to get a fair hearing in New York when you have the Democrat Party machine picking these local Manhattan trial judges and we haven't had a Republican governor in New York in 17 years.
And so there's no chance he's going to get a fair appeal.
So yes, this is going to go to trial.
And when you have a 95 % jury pool that hates Donald Trump, What is your evidence for that?
unidentified
What is your evidence that 95 % hate Donald Trump?
You're throwing a lot of stuff out there, and I just am wondering what exactly you have specifically to back up your claims.
mike davis
So we know that the Manhattan DA took a million dollars in campaign support from two different PACs, not just one, two different PACs to support his campaign.
So a million dollars from George Soros.
We know that this case was dead.
unidentified
It got passed over multiple times. Hold on. It wasn't a million dollars.
Hold on. George Soros gave a million dollars to a progressive PAC. That progressive PAC gave half a million dollars To Alvin Bragg, none of it was earmarked for Bragg.
George Soros' reps say that they had never communicated.
There was nothing of the sort.
mike davis
But go ahead. That's the first one.
There's also a second PAC, the New York PAC. There are two different PACs.
So you should probably take a look at that when you're fact-checking me.
So you have this Soros-funded DA bringing these bogus political charges, and you have a judge on this case who donated to Trump's political opponent, Joe Biden.
So you tell me if that looks like a fair process.
unidentified
Why did Joe Takapina say that the judge wasn't biased?
He wasn't concerned about that.
Why did he say that then?
Are you saying he was wrong? I'm not Trump's lawyer.
mike davis
I don't have to go stand in front of this judge every day.
Maybe Joe understands that this judge is not going to move the venue here.
He's not going to recuse from the case.
He's going to have to live with this judge who donated to Joe Biden's campaign so he doesn't want to anger him.
But for recusal, that's not the standard.
The standard is appearance of bias.
There is an appearance of bias when this judge donated to Joe Biden, President Trump's political opponent.
unidentified
But do you think that justifies Trump to his millions of Fervent, devout followers targeting the judge.
I know we're kind of circling back and we do have to end this soon, but I'm just wondering, is that what you're implying, that that then justifies Trump targeting the judge publicly?
mike davis
Justifies speaking out. You don't think Trump is allowed to speak out publicly?
unidentified
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.
He said it was Trump hating.
mike davis
So he can't criticize the...
Well, I think you have to look at the history of this judge with Trump and prior lawsuits.
I understand, wasn't this the judge who sent President Trump's 75-year-old accountant to Rikers Island?
I mean, there's a history here that Trump is referring to.
unidentified
And we should note that Michael Bloomberg, when he was a Republican, first appointed this judge, later on a Democratic governor.
And we're actually going to speak to a retired judge later in the show to talk about all this.
But Mike Davis, really good to have you on and to hear your points in this case in defense of Donald Trump.
We appreciate your time.
Thank you so much. Thank you.
Thank you. Poor Pamela Brown.
steve bannon
Her eardrum must have been getting blown up by the producer in her ear.
You know, you wear these IFPs. The producer was sitting there screaming at her.
Here's what you got to tell her.
Here's the counterpoint. Mike, I hope that's the first of many at CNN, but I'm not going long on that bet.
Fantastic last night.
The first time I think the CNN audience has really gotten the truth with both barrels.
Give me your assessment. By the way, she's a very good sport.
She's actually, you know, she's what Phyllis George and John White Brown's daughter.
I think she does actually a very good job, but the whole place is so left wing.
You can't maneuver around. I put it up on Getter last night.
I guess Chris Lick, the CEO, had the day off when some producer booked the Mike Davis, the fighting Mike Davis, to go on CNN. Give me your assessment, sir.
mike davis
So I will say, Pam, she's very nice, she's very funny, off-camera, as I note.
But look, they don't get the truth at CNN very often, and they got the Mike Davis charm last night, and I don't know if they can handle it.
So it was quite entertaining.
steve bannon
Is that your charm?
That's your charm offensive?
That's what we were seeing last night?
mike davis
There you go. Yeah, exactly.
I mean, it's actually stunning to me that we live in We live in two different worlds because the left-wing media simply will not report the truth, and so you go on to these shows and actually tell them the truth, and they're just stunned.
It makes their heads explode.
steve bannon
You said something very important, though, that I think we need, because you talk about solutions, and let's talk about these subpoenas.
I said the other day, I think it was Tuesday or Wednesday, that Jim Jordan and the guys need to come back to D.C. It's Holy Week.
It's Passover. I got that.
But we're in a crisis.
What you saw Tuesday is a crisis of these Bolsheviks.
You need subpoenas.
You need subpoenas now.
We can't wait. We need subpoenas now.
Give me your thoughts on that, Mike Davis.
You've been at the tip of the spear of demanding those.
What subpoenas do we need to see?
When do we need to see them?
mike davis
And who do they go to? I think the most urgent subpoena is a subpoena from the Judiciary Committee or the Weaponization Subcommittee.
Jim Jordan needs to issue subpoenas to Matthew Colangelo.
Matthew Colangelo was the very senior Biden Justice Department political appointee who Bragg recruited back in December to go revive this zombie case against President Trump, this bogus case against President Trump based upon this laughable legal theory that the prior Manhattan DA declined at Alvin Bragg's urging when Alvin Bragg worked for the New York Attorney General's office.
The Manhattan U.S. Attorney's office declined.
The Federal Election Commission declined.
Bragg himself declined when he went into the Manhattan DA's office.
Bragg took this heat from the leftists in New York, crazies in New York.
I don't know if Bragg is just trying to raise his profile, if he's trying to raise money, if he's trying to be a hero in New York, if he's trying to fend off an election primary.
All of those things he's going to very successfully do by Bringing in this Matthew Colangelo, this partisan political hack, longtime operative to bring these bogus charges.
Again, Matthew Colangelo's history.
He worked for the NAACP for seven years as a litigator.
That tells you all you need to know, but I'll keep going.
It was the Obama White House, the Obama Justice Department under Holder.
The Obama Department of Labor under Tom Perez, the New York Attorney General's Office at Democrat AG, where they created this job for Matthew Colangelo to get Trump.
He sued Trump, Trump Organization, Trump Foundation, Trump Administration dozens and dozens and dozens of times while Trump was president.
And then Colangelo went to the Biden Justice Department on the parachute team.
Those are where the hardcore Bolsheviks are on the parachute team.
He went into the Justice Department.
He was the Acting Associate Attorney General of the United States, the number three.
It's a key post. It oversees civil division, civil rights division, tax division, the Office of Justice programs, a whole litany.
It's basically the entire civil side of the Justice Department, along with the criminal component to tax and civil rights.
It's a huge job.
And then when Vanita Gupta was going through the process and getting confirmed, she's a left-wing radical.
I went against her many times, including on the Kavanaugh confirmation.
When I was on the Senate Judiciary Committee, Matthew was then the number two to the number three, number two to Associate Attorney General Vanita Gupta, the people who sicked the Justice Department, including the FBI, after Christians praying outside of abortion clinics while they gave amnesty to abortion industry Paid activists terrorizing Catholic churches, Christian crisis pregnancy centers, justices in their homes.
This is a radical.
He has Bragg's head.
Matthew Colangelo is Biden's head.
steve bannon
Mike, hang on for one second.
I'm just going to hold you through the break for a quick minute.
I just want to finish up about these subpoenas.
Dr. Shiva is going to join us next.
We've got Dave Brack as my wingman.
We're going to get back to the economics capital markets at the top of the hour.
Just hang with us. Got a lot to go through on this holy Thursday.
unidentified
Back in a moment. Getter has arrived.
The new social media taking on big tech.
Protecting free speech. Okay, welcome back.
steve bannon
You know, we've been all over the house where they're doing things good.
They should be praised and supported where they need to get off it, you know, get on top of it.
They need to get on top of it.
And we're going to be there to say, hey, you got to be doing this.
And obviously there's tons of conversations going on behind the scenes.
But we want to make sure the war room posse is dialed into everything.
What McCarthy did yesterday on Taiwan I thought was terrific.
He had both Democrats and Republicans.
It was a show of strength.
There's a lot going on we're going to talk about in the next hour regarding Taiwan.
They actually sent a carrier battle group or carrier strike group out into the straits, kind of a show of force.
We're trying to still determine how important that is or not.
But they're rattling the saber like they want to do some sort of invasion.
On judiciary, Jim Jordan's been doing a good job on some things.
Some will slow off the mark.
I think that could be taken care of by staffing, and there's plenty of money.
They should staff up and start hiring some heavies, particularly on the weaponization of government because he's got a big job.
Mike Davis, you've been at the forefront of this going on offense.
We need to go on offense. What are the subpoenas?
Colangelo is obviously huge.
He's the connective tissue here.
Who else should be subpoenaed immediately and forced to come down and testify as early as next week?
mike davis
I don't know if I would have the political process foul of trying to drag them down to testify in D.C. I would actually send up Committee investigators for staff depositions next week.
And so then you go get information and then you bring them down for a hearing after that.
Based upon the information the staff investigators on the Judiciary Committee learn from those depositions.
Because if you try to drag them down to a hearing next week, they're gonna scream and yell that House Judiciary Republicans are trying to obstruct this investigation, this prosecution into Trump.
So don't walk into that bear trap.
Send up committee investigators.
And they need to interview Colangelo.
They need to interview Bragg. They also need to subpoena all communications between Bragg's office And anyone outside of that office that is not law enforcement, right?
So it would have to be like actual law enforcement, actual FBI agents, actually career DOJ officials.
And then you can get communications between anyone in Bragg's office in the Biden White House, the DNC, the political appointees in the Biden Justice Department, any intermediaries between The Biden world and Bragg's world, Colangelo for sure.
I would subpoena their personal phones, their personal text messages, their personal emails.
So if they're trying to communicate between the DOJ and Bragg's office and not have it subject to the Freedom of Information Act, I would get aggressive because what Bragg is doing here is clearly political.
It's clearly part of the Democrats' lawfare.
This brag took over a million dollars from George Soros for his campaign.
He's a partisan hitman, just like Fulton County DA Fannie Willis, just like Garland Special Counsel Jack Smith.
This is lawfare against Trump.
They're investigating non-crimes.
They have a double standard.
For example, they're trying to go after Trump for presidential records.
Trump was absolutely allowed to have under the Presidential Records Act while covering up for then-former Vice President Joe Biden with stolen classified records in several different locations that Miranda Devine from the New York Post shows that Hunter Biden likely used in a 23-point memo to his Chinese and Ukrainian oligarchs to make millions of dollars illegally and corruptly for the Biden crime family.
So, House Republicans, I've been very critical of Jim Jordan and Kevin McCarthy on the big tech issue.
And how they got off to a very wobbly start to oversight.
They're starting to turn their ship.
They're starting to put points on the board, but they need to move faster.
steve bannon
Mike Davis, how can people follow you, sir?
mike davis
Article3project.org, article3project.org, at article3project, at article3project.
My personal is at MRDDMIA, MRDDMIA. Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
Now, Pamela Brown had enough courage to have you on.
Ari Melber's got to be next.
We need to see you on MSNBC with their legal heavyweight, Ari Melber.
So we need to do that. Thank you, Brother Davis.
mike davis
Appreciate it. Yeah, thank you.
steve bannon
Okay, we got a clip here.
This is from the other day.
Remember on Monday we came back.
We had John Mills because a lot was going on with Twitter.
They put their open source code and let everybody check it out.
And we found some things out on Monday, and I referred to Dr.
Shiva. Dr. Shiva's going to play the clip.
This may take us to break, and Shiva will join us right after.
Let's go ahead and play it. We got Colonel John Mills.
Colonel Mills, two stories I want to break down.
First, we can get the story up.
Tell me what was revealed and what you found out about Twitter in the importance of this, sir, first, over the weekend.
unidentified
Yeah, Lucas Nolan at Breitbart had an article about a government intervention tool, and this just exploded my head.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is remote access.
This is a backdoor.
Most hacks are not really hacks.
It's the... It's the Enabling Insider.
So this comes from the day, probably it was planted there during the days of Yol Robb.
and Vijaya Gadde. And so Twitter was totally in cahoots giving a back door to the U.S. government.
steve bannon
Okay, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down.
This gets to Dr. was it...
Chavez's lawsuit.
I think in a lawsuit he found the backdoor.
Just summarize the article again because people who come to this don't know the jargon.
What does the article actually say?
unidentified
Just summarize it. Well, it calls it a gut.
They found code.
They put out all of the Twitter code for public examination, which is a great idea.
Crowdsourcing it and somebody spotted, they called it a government intervention tool, which is another word for backdoor access by the US government into Twitter to essentially throttle those they didn't like.
So this is not just a backdoor for monitoring.
This is a dial that most likely DHS CISA can reach in and throttle.
And my curiosity is, is that conduit still open?
Probably is, and Elon probably doesn't even realize it.
steve bannon
When you say, yeah, he bought a crime scene.
When you say, because he put the thing up for open sourcing now, that's happened over the weekend.
We're going to go to break. No, he knew it, and I tell you who's going to prove he knew it was Dr.
Shiva. We're going to take a short commercial break, 90-second break, Dr.
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