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March 8, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2571: "No One Should Assume The Fed Can Protect The Economy"
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Wednesday, 8 March, year of our Lord, 2023.
We're in it now, both domestically and internationally, in the early stages of the Third World War.
And of course, what you're seeing is the collapse of Of a global system that's been around for many, many, many decades and is now collapsing before your eyes.
One of the reasons it's collapsing is that you're saying, hey, we're not paying for this anymore.
We're not doing this. We're not sending our sons and daughters to die on foreign battlefields.
We are not going to support this.
We're not going to support it with our pension funds.
We're not going to support it with our insurance company money.
We're not going to support it with our tax dollars.
We don't want to do this anymore. We don't want to do it anymore.
And you're seeing right now, look at that reaction.
Look how furious they were at Tucker Carlson.
Why? Because they showed the truth about 6 January.
That's where they were furious. And how many people really had Tucker's back?
Think about that for a second.
Using Republicans and Democrats is not a construct that's helpful.
It confuses the situation.
That type of labeling is in years past.
And I want to make sure, remember, it's the convergence of this geopolitical national security crises and this, the $300 trillion globally of debt, right, that we can't afford with the structure of interest rates right now that everything's over 4 % from 30-year treasuries to 30-year, from one-month treasuries to 30-year treasuries.
And that convergence is like the 1930s of an economic and capital markets crisis, Coupled with a geopolitical crisis that's partly driven by that, that's where we are now.
And you are the cadre, you are the vanguard of setting things right.
Remember, you're the chairman of the creditors committee, and they're spinning everything.
Yesterday, I want to go back, Cortez, and talk about what Powell just said, the debt ceiling, because I'm spending a lot of time with people talking about what the alternatives are.
Yesterday, Senator Clackhorn from Louisiana, when he was trying to light up, and he did a pretty good job on Powell, but he kept using a phrase, and we want this in your nomenclature, ladies and gentlemen, we have to stop the rate, we have to slow the rate of increase in government spending.
No. That is the cathedral, that's the lullaby, to lull you to sleep.
That's how we get in this mess. No.
We need dramatic And I mean dramatic cuts in absolute dollars in what financial types call period zero.
That would be now. No more happy talk.
We need massive cuts now.
steve cortes
Steve Cortez. Listen, what the controlled opposition, and most Republicans, unfortunately, especially in the Senate, belong to the controlled opposition, what they are effectively saying is this.
Imagine if somebody were assaulting you, and this is absolutely a fiscal and monetary and economic assault.
If somebody's assaulting you, it's like saying, I would like you to punch me less hard in the face.
That's essentially what they are saying.
And we, on the populist right, are saying, no, you will stop punching me, and if you don't, I am punching back, and I'm going to punch back harder.
That's how we're going to end this assault.
So it's an entirely different construct.
It's an entirely different approach and agenda.
And by the way, to connect the dots here between that globalist warmongering all over the world, needless interventions by the United States, and the economic predicament we're in, They are deeply intertwined.
And let me just give you the example of Afghanistan.
We spent two decades in Afghanistan, and the most tragic cost was the loss of precious American lives, some of our bravest and best young Americans who lost their lives, thousands of them.
In Afghanistan.
During those two decades, we know because of the Afghanistan papers, which is actually a great work of journalism by the Washington Post.
And I don't often use that phrase, but it really was.
Didn't get much attention, unfortunately, because it was revealed right into the Trump impeachment and then into the virus exploding.
But the Afghanistan papers revealed through quotes that were supposed to remain confidential and thankfully didn't, didn't stay classified because the Washington Post.
It revealed that all along, The foreign policy establishment of the United States, the Pentagon, the State Department, think tanks, outside of ours, all of them knew that it was a quagmire in Afghanistan.
They knew that we were not achieving any of our supposed goals, and they knew that in many cases, we didn't even have definable goals, okay?
They knew that. And yet, they not only wasted thousands of American lives, most tragically, But they also ran up an enormous debt that we cannot afford and we are now grappling to deal with.
In total, it's hard to get a good number, an accurate number on just how much we spent in Afghanistan because so much of it was off the books or not over.
But it was at least $1 trillion for a country that is now $31 trillion in debt.
So when you talk about these two crises that are sort of parallel crises in many ways, they intertwine also.
A massive reason, a primary driver of this predicament we're in regarding the debt is because of the globalism and because the cathedral loves war, because it's great for K Street lobbyists, it's great for defense contractors, it's great for the Davos set, but it's terrible for Dayton, Ohio.
It's terrible for regular Americans Who paid the ultimate price in many cases, but who also continue to pay a financial price to this very day.
So we hear somebody like Powell come up and say, oh, just extend the debt ceiling.
No, the answer is no, and we're not going to ask you to hit us less hard.
You will stop hitting us, and we will hit back if necessary.
steve bannon
And here's the thing that galls me.
He sits and goes, yeah, you know, we're going to default.
I have nothing to do with it. He, this five trillion in the mass he was talking about the other day, but at least a couple of trillion, we know he just out of thin air decided he was going to do it with no congressional authorization.
Part of the reason we have this jam.
Look, when I talk about a systems problem, the neoliberal neoconies, the central banks issue.
We've had this thing called fiscal domination, where the legislation and executive branch throughout the world just continue to keep passing these budgets that nobody can afford to do all this kind of social justice warrior stuff and the military stuff simultaneously.
The central banks just fund it.
That's the game that's come to an end.
The game that's come to an end is they can't do it anymore because the interest rates, they're in a jam.
But when you're a constructor of the Afghanistan papers, I'm so glad you brought that up because it was so powerful.
And this is what I thought when I was in the White House to shut down the Afghanistan thing year one because it's a con.
I sat in the National Security Council.
I can tell you, they will look you in the eye and they will lie to you.
They will look you straight in the eye.
President Trump wanted to leave right out of the box.
They will look you in the eye and they will lie to you.
There's only difference in degree, not kind, from Vietnam.
You look at the Pentagon Papers and the Afghan Papers, it's almost the same thing, right?
And by the way, no one's done one on Iraq, but it's the same thing in Iraq.
Roughly, up at Brown University, I'm no fan of Brown, but they've got a center up there that really does the math.
They say it's $9 trillion.
And they say $7 trillion to Iraq, $2 trillion to Afghanistan, also the present value of your veteran issue, homeless issue, PTSD issue.
So some of it is future payments discounted back to the present, which is the way that you've got to do it.
So $9 trillion.
But Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, somebody's making money.
Somebody's making money and somebody's paying for it.
The deplorables in MAGA are always paying for it with your taxes.
In addition, it's your sons and daughters on those battlefields.
That's what is going to stop.
The answer right now is no.
We're not going to get sucked into this Ukraine thing.
You talked about Heinz earlier.
Heinz is one of the biggest cheerleaders.
Some Schmendrick, right?
He's one of the biggest cheerleaders for all in Ukraine.
He calls Tucker Carlson a parasite on the body politic.
Dude, you're a parasitic warmonger.
And guess what, Hines? We're not sending our sons and daughters anymore.
The game is over.
Steve, your analysis of the cathedral is quite frankly brilliant.
The way you can connect it to the capital markets and to Powell.
Everything comes out of Powell's mouth.
First off, I went back and looked at the hearing yesterday and went through it.
Here's the amazing thing, Cortez.
He actually is a moron.
Remember, he's a third-tier investment banker from all these kind of marginal places.
He doesn't actually understand the concepts.
He double-talks and corrects it.
You're right.
When you actually go through and re...
I mean, this is not Alan Greenspan.
And I didn't think Alan Greenspan has any great shakes with the Greenspan put, right?
And the moral hazard.
But at least Greenspan had a fundamental, deep understanding of this That Powell just doesn't have.
I mean, you talk about being in a perilous position, and hey, Powell is 100 % Steve Mnuchin.
Steve Mnuchin pushed him onto President Trump.
And look, as hapless as Yellen is, as a Treasury Secretary, People have to understand, when I talk about four years of peace and prosperity under Trump, he took in the first year, first 15 months, Donald Trump's administration at the Federal Reserve at the time took almost $1 trillion off of the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve, quantitative tightening. So think of what his growth rate would have been in the GDP if he had had the punch bowl still out there.
$900 billion in QTs and quantitative tightening on Trump's in the first year and a half of Trump's watch when he hit the golden year of 2019 with that growth rate, no inflation, blue collar jobs, everybody, all the wages up.
That is the paradigm, the year 2019 in Trump's four years of peace and prosperity.
steve cortes
Steve Cortez. Yeah, 100%.
By the way, regarding Powell, you're exactly right at what a lightweight he is.
And how unfortunate, to say the least, that is at a moment like this, right?
of an intense and worsening economic crisis.
And you're also correct that his predecessors, while I certainly don't agree with Greenspan, with Bernanke, I will at least concede that, yes, there was some intellectual heft there.
I think there were people who at least had a deep understanding of economic markets and monetary policy and history.
There is none of that with Powell.
He's a completely empty suit.
He's an attorney with no significant financial experience.
Yes, he spent a few years collecting paychecks at Carlyle, but that was completely a political operation.
He is a lifelong Washingtonian, and he acts like it, and he shows it, particularly when he faces harsh questioning, which is too infrequent because, of course, media never holds his feet to the fire.
A few senators did.
We'll see what happens today. He's testifying now before the House.
But to your point, Steve, with these twin crises, this national security crisis and this financial crisis, Think of our leaders right now.
We have Powell and Yellen on the financial side, and on the national security side, we have white rage Millie and sleepy Joe Biden.
That should give no one comfort.
But I don't want to say that just to scare the audience.
I want to say it to motivate all of us.
All of us must make A commitment and a recommitment to fixing this.
And we can. And one of the key levers we have right now in Washington, D.C. is the U.S. House of Representatives.
And by the way, in state capitals all over the country, let's never lose sight of this, in many, many state capitals, we have complete control.
And it is time for us to act like it.
I'm proud to say that my home state of Tennessee is starting to do that.
We just outlawed this ridiculous child abuse of drag shows in front of children done in the state of Tennessee.
Child transitioning, sex surgery, mutilation done in the state of Tennessee.
We need that to happen in every red state in America.
That's just one example of the kinds of reforms that are possible now.
We don't have to wait for the 2024 elections.
steve bannon
Cortez, how do people get to you on Substack and all your great content?
steve cortes
Yeah, please follow me on the Twitter.
I'm at CortezSteveCortez with an S. It links to my Substack, which is stevecortez.substack.com.
Please read my new article on the Cathedral of Lies, so that you may live not by lies, as Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the late great dissident, admonished for us.
steve bannon
Thank you, Steve. Brother Cortez, thank you.
Let's go to John Solomon.
John, you've got a list of stories up there today, just amazing, up on Just the News.
All these stories are breaking about the FBI. Walk me through your FBI. We've got about a minute here, and we'll hold you to the break.
john solomon
All these stories about the FBI. Yeah, listen, the first is there have been four or five whistleblowers in the last couple months who all say the FBI is using threat tags, intelligence, domestic, or terrorism threat tags, to cancel culture conservatives, whether it's Catholics, whether it's parents at school board meetings, the newest one. Pro-life activists, a significant testimony from these protesters saying they're labeling people domestic terrorists using a threat tag just to cancel them in the public domain.
That should scare all of us.
And there's some brand new revelations about Russia.
What could have been if the FBI did the right thing and just gave Donald Trump a defensive briefing back in 2016 rather than start that cockamamie investigation that turned out to be nothing but a political dirty chick from Hillary Clinton?
Attorney Lynch gives some new testimony.
We can get that maybe right after the break.
steve bannon
Yeah, Solomon's been the first guy in this whole Ukraine situation.
He was the guy that did all the serious investigative work at the beginning of this in Russiagate.
Okay, short commercial break.
John Solomon, Real America's Voice host with Amanda Head, also the founder, editor, and publisher of Just the News, one of the best sites out there.
Short commercial break. John Solomon next.
unidentified
We will fight till they're all gone.
We rejoice when there's no more.
Let's take down the CCP's.
Your host Stephen K. Bamm.
Thanks for having me.
No, they're not. They're not going to defund it.
I promise you they're not going to defund any of it.
We've had other people come up here and tell you that if we only could get rid of Fox News, everything would be better.
steve bannon
Yes, I didn't say that, Mark.
If you want to continue to be the great one, you've got to be the great one.
I said we've got to get rid of the Murdochs.
We're going to get rid of the Murdochs, and they're a problem.
You see what they did to Tucker, brother?
Which response to that? But more importantly, The defund the FBI. John Solomon, and I know you have a tremendous respect for Mark Levin, but on this, on so many other things, it's way off the mark.
You have spent time with Jim Jordan, and Jim Jordan was shrinking violet, although I would love Jim Jordan maybe to get John Solomon over there as his deputy, the head of the investigation on some of these, to move a little more.
Jim Jordan's sitting there going...
He's saying on your podcast that, yes, we're going to use the appropriations bill, we're going to use the hammer.
He says we've got to use the leverage of funding.
Am I incorrect in that, sir?
john solomon
Yeah, so listen, I think they're talking past each other.
I think when Mark Levin's talking, he's talking about they're going to get rid of the FBI, defund it in its entirety, get rid of it as an agency.
Now, there are some agencies where lawmakers are talking about doing that.
The Education Department, a lot of the conservatives think they can defund that over the next three to five years, send the money back to the states and block grants, get rid of it.
What Jim Jordan is talking about is not getting rid of the whole FBI, but defunding those parts of the FBI that are violating the Constitution or infringing on civil liberties.
For instance, any part of the FBI that tries to contact the big tech companies and suggest censorship, we're going to defund that.
You can't use tax dollars going forward to do that.
That's the sort of idea he's talking about.
If there's an FBI witness that doesn't comply, doesn't come in, say, I'm just not going to give you testimony.
I'm going to do my job. I'm ignoring Congress.
They can defund his salary.
So Jim Jordan's talking about using it as a very painful scalpel to punish those departments or to handicap those departments inside the FBI that violate the law or are doing things that are anathema to the Constitution.
He's not talking about getting rid of the whole FBI. Few people talk about that.
I don't think that's a realistic option right now, given the votes in Congress.
But punishing the FBI for bad conduct, that is going to happen.
There's a thing called the Holman rule you and I have talked about in the past.
Republicans are going to use it over the next year to defund certain parts of the bureaucracy that misbehave or violate the law.
steve bannon
You're as well sourced inside the FBI and the national security apparatus as anybody.
What is the feeling now that these hearings are starting and when people come in for depositions, the Democrats immediately cherry pick and leak it.
What is the sense of the rank and file in these organizations about the fear of even coming forward and being whistleblowers, sir?
john solomon
That's a really good point, Steve.
I really worry about this dynamic because some of the early whistleblowers that have come out, the ones I just talked about a few minutes ago, who've given the testimony about the threat tags and other things.
The Democrats quickly take the deposition, even before the Republicans do it.
Republicans don't want to put it out right away, right?
They're trying to get facts together and make sure that witnesses don't coordinate stories, so they're holding it back.
The Democrats cherry-pick some things and smear these people in the public.
Sometimes with false information, both Rolling Stone and Washington Post had to do major corrections this weekend because they falsely accused the whistleblowers of something that wasn't true based on the Democratic representations.
That has chilled some people.
I know of some whistleblowers right now that are like, I'm not sure I want to go do this.
I'm going to get dirtied up. Are the Republicans able to protect me?
Long term, they will be.
Short term, the Democrats always nick people up with a lot of paper cuts, and it scares some of these whistleblowers away.
That said, I know there are more than 30 whistleblowers that have come forward.
Some of them are providing very important information right now, Steve, about why the Hunter Biden case hasn't progressed.
I think we're going to learn about that in the next few weeks.
It's going to make us all a little more sick to our stomach about the weaponization of law enforcement inside the federal government.
But there still are 30.
I've been in Washington, D.C. a long time.
Never seen 30 whistleblowers come out of a single agency before.
It tells you how bad the rank-and-file feel about the future of their agency under the current leadership.
steve bannon
Thank you. Last thing, Cy Hirsch had this, you know, he couldn't attribute it, it was an undisclosed source, and only one I think, about the U.S., you know, the intelligence services, DIA, C.A., D.N.I., blowing up Nord Stream 2.
Now, yesterday, it looked like the intelligence services leaked to the New York Times that it's a pro-Ukrainian group.
Set us straight here. In your mind, given your knowledge of all this stuff, what is this all about?
john solomon
Yeah, listen, well, the truth of the matter is our Intelligence Committee is so worried about wokeism, our Defense Department is so worried about wokeism, they can't do basic things like figure out who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, right?
So the original assessment, even after the Cy Hirsch story came out, was that we think a Russian-oriented group or someone aligned with Putin did it to generate sympathy and create some sympathy for Putin inside Russia.
Almost everyone I've talked to says they don't think Cy Hirsch has that part right, but there is some ambiguity about who's doing it.
It could have been Russians aligned with Ukraine.
It could have been Russians aligned with Putin.
There is some doubt, but this is kind of scary.
This happened six months ago, and our intel community really doesn't have a general assessment of how a major episode in the Ukraine-Russia war happened.
What actually occurred there?
That should concern all of us.
The community, the intelligence community has been chasing a lot of black shadows that really don't matter.
Things like Russia collusion that were never true.
And then their core competencies, like figuring out whether Russia or Ukraine blew up a major asset in underground That is in doubt.
We don't have some of the human and other capabilities that we had.
We saw that, again, with the Chinese balloon that went across our country, and no one noticed it until, or when they did notice it, they didn't know what to do with it for several days.
We've got to harden our defenses.
There's too much ideology going on in the intelligence community, not enough traditional intel work going on.
steve bannon
Well, the deep state, are you absolutely convinced, given your reporting on Russiagate, and you were the first guy on this Ukraine situation years ago when people laughed at you, what are you chasing Ukraine for?
Are you convinced that at the highest level the core groups are actually playing on our side of the football, John Solomon?
john solomon
Well, listen, I think they think they're doing what's right for the Americans, but they've been politicized to the fact that they're really only representing a third or a quarter of America, the leftist policies that they came out of colleges falling in love with.
And I think you see this at the Justice Department.
People ask me all the time, how did the FBI go from being the FBI we knew and respected to this political thing?
Well, we've had under three different presidents Three consecutive FBI directors who didn't come from the FBI or the Quantico Academy, they came out of the political side of the Justice Department.
What did they do? They brought their political philosophies.
They brought their ideology. Chris Wray, James Comey, and Robert Mueller.
It started with Mueller. It got significantly worse under Comey, and it has persisted under Chris Wray.
If you don't want the FBI to become political, Don't pick a political director.
Go find a career or a law enforcement expert and put them in charge instead of these political lawyers that grew up in the culture of the DOJ. That is the problem.
Same things in the Intelligence Committee.
People with political backgrounds and ideologies being inserted into a community that's been apolitical and usually focused just on the skill set of spying.
Now we have a lot of partisans in there.
That scares us. And when I talk to the rank and file and you ask them, what's wrong?
We have too many political people, not enough intelligence experts in our community right now.
That's what they say to a person.
steve bannon
John Solomon, how do people get to the show, podcast, all your writings, and the news site?
john solomon
Well, I'm lucky enough to follow you every night at 5 o'clock after your show at 5 o'clock.
We turn on at 6 o'clock. Amanda Head and I, Just the News, No Noise.
Justthenews.com is the website.
Jay Solomon reports my coordinates on all social media.
steve bannon
Brother Solomon, thank you very much for the update.
john solomon
Thanks, Steve. Good to be with you.
steve bannon
A guy that knows the inner workings of Washington probably as well as anybody.
Let me go to, we had Cortez on here with this Tennessee situation.
I want to get Karen England on from Capital Resources Institute.
Karen, you've been all over this.
I think you've got a, one of the groups you've helped founded is about the porn in the schools.
Is Cortez right? Is we're finally starting to see some action, some real action at the state level and you see in Tennessee, they're stopping the drag shows and they want to get this crap out of this pornography out of the libraries of the school, ma'am?
unidentified
We are seeing some movement, and yes, that was a great win for parents to get the drag queen story hours stopped.
However, a lot of red state Republicans still lack courage, and there's still a lot of pornography in our school libraries.
We had a bill last year in Tennessee that would have let parents get this stuff out of the schools, and it was the Republicans in a supermajority state that That pulled the bill.
So there's a lot of work to be done and we need to keep the pressure on even red state Republicans.
steve bannon
This is one of the things we've been going through all morning about whether it's Tucker Carlson, whether it's J6, whether it's the debt ceiling.
Why are red state Republicans, these heavily red states, walk us through why are they resistant?
Why are they hesitant to basically protect the family and protect the children, ma'am?
unidentified
Well, it's interesting because I come from California.
Our home base is California.
So I did California politics for 25 years.
And so I see it so easily in these these red states being new to Tennessee.
And I'm not sure if it's that Republicans until Trump had lacked courage, which they all did.
But even after Trump, they will not take a stand for anything they deem controversial.
And I don't know how having porn in our schools is too controversial for them, but it is.
And sadly, I think in a lot of red states, I know this is true in Tennessee, we have people who run as Republicans Because that's what they're supposed to do.
And they're really Democrats in Republican clothing or conservative clothing.
And, you know, I hear all the time in Tennessee, oh, don't bring your California politics here.
Don't bring it. I'm not the problem.
I'm trying to alert you all that they're here.
And we need to take care of it right now.
It's the Republicans in the state house who That are passing a lot of this stuff.
You know, last year we had a bill in Tennessee by my Republican senator that introduced HPV vaccinations for dentists to give minors without consent, parental consent.
I'm thinking this is Tennessee.
Even California doesn't let dentists do that.
I mean, that's what is happening.
And I think a lot of the people are trusting and thinking we're a red state and they're moving here just like I did, thinking, oh, this is going to be so nice.
I'm in a red state.
I'm with, you know, normal people.
And that has not been the case.
steve bannon
Karen, hang on for one second.
Karen, England's going to join us on the other side.
We're trying to get Brandon Showwater, the great Dr.
Bregan. Hope is Fuel, the big conference coming up on the 18th.
unidentified
We're gonna get to all of it after a short commercial break.
steve bannon
Okay welcome back.
Natalie Winters, who is monitoring all the hearings for us right now.
We've got, I think, Robert Redfield is being testifying.
He tried to explain to Fauci That the COVID-19 was not found in nature, was not natural.
So we're going to get into all that and definitely have Natalie up here at five.
She's on top of all these investigations.
The renowned Dr.
Peter Bregan, one of our favorite guests, is going to join us here momentarily.
Karen England, Vindman.
Vindman's been caught getting a company, trying to make money on the Ukraine war, which he's humping every day.
Tell me about the wife and her involvement in all this pornography.
unidentified
Yes. Well, she is actually leading the charge against parents to push porn in schools, and she founded an organization.
They started with $1.6 million last year.
It's called Red Wine and Blue, and their sole focus is to go against moms and That are fighting this graphic stuff in their schools.
They've got a toggling map where you can find out where people are going to challenge books.
And she's pushing this porn and she's proud of it, specifically in a lot of the swing states, hoping to get the women's vote.
But I think she's sadly mistaken.
I don't know any mom that supports porn in their school library.
steve bannon
Are you taking her on mano a mano?
Are you challenging her in these different areas where she's trying to push the porn?
unidentified
Yes. Provided a lot of really good opposition research because now our organization knows where to go in and help those parents with talking points, with what the law is.
One thing, Steve, a lot of people don't know, over 43 states are exempt from They are exempt from the obscenity laws, public schools.
So there's all sorts of obscenity laws and you see all of these parents going and they're reading these books in front of school boards and then nothing happens.
Nothing happens because schools are exempt.
And that's the bill that failed last year in Tennessee.
So until we make sure that our minors can't have obscenity, then we're going to fail.
And they want to keep obscenity as something that's acceptable in school libraries.
And the thing I really want your listeners to know now, the progressives are way ahead of us.
This book, Trans, is full, and Brandon, I need to get you a copy of this, full of QR codes.
So now they've moved to QR codes that take you to X-rated sites.
It gives you resources for hospitals.
It gives you information on binding your chest.
And so this book is in schools in Texas, Oklahoma, Tennessee.
It's in my local district in Clarksville, Tennessee.
And it is so graphic.
And again, they are pushing this.
Rachel Vindman and her group, Red, Wine& Blue, they are pushing these books at the local level.
So we need parents to stand up.
Go to porninschools.com.
Let us help you fight this and get these out of our schools and save the hearts and minds of our kids.
steve bannon
Karen, we're going to have you back on because the Vimmons are one of the most poisonous couples in this nation.
So, Karen, England, one more time, how do they get to your site?
What's your social media?
unidentified
Go to porninschools.com and then we are at Capital Resource.
And you can go watch the reel that is incredibly X-rated that they wouldn't let us show you.
And that's in schools right now all over the nation.
Every red state has it.
So thank you for letting me have a voice and giving a voice to the parents.
steve bannon
Yeah. Karen, anytime.
You're a fighter. Let me go to...
I've got Brandon Showalter who's been at the tip of the spear of this over at the Christian Post.
Brandon, it's mind-boggling.
This is going on.
And I tell you, they're not going to back down.
This has got to be a full effort of every parent out there and grandparent and everybody just...
Even if you don't have kids, right?
If your kids are out of the house or older, this is about your community.
unidentified
Brandon Showalter. Well, that's right, Steve.
brandon m showalter
There was this big hullabaloo some months ago about grooming and whether or not you can use the term grooming.
But if having this kind of disgusting content in children's libraries in a place where you would hope it's cultivating a love for reading and learning and all of it is manipulating them into accepting paraphilias and gender confusion, If that's not grooming, then I don't know what is.
But I hear in my own work at the Christian Post on the transgender beat, I hear from parents all the time, just like Karen, who they're just disgusted.
And a lot of these pornographic books are by transgender or queer identified authors.
I mean, some of the stuff that is like, there's this famous book, Gender Queer.
There's another book called Lawn Boy.
It's all about that.
It's all connected. It's one big beast and it's pretty horrible.
But it's why, as of today, Dr.
Jeff Myers and I have released on the Christian Post and on Summit Ministries a new book, an e-book, called Exposing the Gender Lie, How to Protect Children and Teens from the Transgender Industry's False Ideology.
So this is our response to all of the bilge that's out there today.
steve bannon
You call it an industry.
unidentified
What do you mean by that? Well, it's an industry because this isn't organic.
brandon m showalter
This was engineered top-down.
The medical industrial complex has set this scheme in motion.
And, you know, I know every time I say this, I sort of feel like I'm obligated to note that, well, it sounds like a tinfoil hat conspiracy.
Are they really? Are there people in high places actually setting this in motion?
And the answer is yes, they are.
Where were all these skyrocketing numbers of children who are suddenly identifying as the opposite sex or some other nonsensical, you know, fictitious gender identity?
It wasn't a thing.
This was pushed from the top down.
When you see, for example, one gender clinic, the first pediatric gender clinic that was opened in 2007 in Boston.
Norman Spack was a big doctor involved in that, and he helped revise the Endocrine Society's guidelines for treating gender dysphoria.
Now there are hundreds.
Planned Parenthood is in on this.
They are passing out testosterone to vulnerable teenage girls like it's candy and they can get it within 30 minutes via a telehealth consultation.
This is an industry.
There are people making money, profiting handsomely off of young children, teenagers and young adults who are often struggling with a variety of mental health ailments and they are sold this bill of goods gender as though that's going to make all the problems going to go away.
But it's all a lie. And we unpack that in the book.
steve bannon
How do people get to this book with you and your co-author?
brandon m showalter
We've got a landing page on ChristianPost.com.
Also, you can go to Summit Ministries.
Jeff Myers is the founder and president of that.
But we've got a landing page on there, too.
I'm tweeting about it today, at BrandonMShow on Twitter.
And also, one of the things that we emphasize in the book, and I would just say this as a tag-on, is that this, because it's a lie, it destroys relationships.
It pits parents against children.
And if you haven't gotten the chance to see the Dead Name documentary film, which we've talked about, Steve, I would still urge everyone to go see that, because this really puts a human face on what this issue is really all about.
And you can see that at DeadNameDocumentary.com.
steve bannon
Brandon, your dedication to this is extraordinary, and the information is incredible.
It's shocking. It's quite unpleasant.
Like I said, it's not my line of country, but it's so overwhelming.
It's one of the worst medical scandals the world has ever seen.
brandon m showalter
It's one of the worst medical scandals the world has ever seen.
I think the fallout is going to be staggering, Steve.
steve bannon
Staggering. One more time, how did they get to this e-book?
Is the e-book free?
Is this a free e-book?
It is! It's a charge or a donation?
It's a free e-book. Nope. Okay, fine.
We wanted this to be free. Posse likes it even better.
brandon m showalter
Mm-hmm. So how did they get to it?
There's a landing page on ChristianPost.com, also Summit Ministries.
You go to some website of Summit Ministries in Colorado Springs and Manitri Springs is where it's based.
And download it.
But Christian Post is where I would point people to go.
75 pages, including the footnotes.
We wanted this to be a free resource so you could protect your family from this scourge.
steve bannon
Grace and Mo, I want everybody to put it in every different chat room.
Carly Bonet over at the Midnight Writer channel.
Thank you very much, Brandon.
You should know, everybody's prayers are with you because we understand and we know you're under assault 24-7.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve. Thank you.
steve bannon
Brandon Shorewarden. That is a guy, is a profile in courage.
Very honored. Okay, so Natalie's going to be with us at 5.
She's spending all her time on all these investigations, and she's monitoring right now this explosive testimony over on Capitol Hill.
She's breaking it down. We're going to have clips about this, about COVID-19.
I want to bring in Dr. Peter Bregg and his book, COVID-19 and the Global Predators, You Are the Prey, was kind of one of the seminal works that broke this thing open early on.
Dr. Bregan, I know we're going to talk about the conference in a second, but I just want to get an update on your current thinking.
You're one of the most renowned psychiatrists in the country.
Your current thinking on the CCP, COVID-19, the global predators.
Where do we stand on all this, sir?
peter r breggin
Well, I think we're facing two separate empires.
We've got the CCP in the east and Xi Jinping.
And in the west, we've got another empire, which is...
It's grown out of a lot of earlier empires and it's very heavily a financial empire and it involves Bill Gates and it involves the European Union, it involves Klaus Schwab, Soros,
a lot of people trying to make billions of dollars and have a lot of control and one of the things they want to do in the process to tie this into your earlier guests who really need to have the overview is that they want to make us into transhumans.
They want to make us into anything they want, essentially, to be able to exploit and use humanity, to cull humanity.
And the whole gender business is about demoralizing us as individuals, giving us no rock-solid values, making us believe that you can be transformed by people outside yourself into some miracle new person.
It's all about the politics, and the politics are the destruction of the individual, the family, the solid middle class, everything that has gone into our believing in life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness rather than totalitarianism.
steve bannon
Dr. Bregan, you're one of the most renowned psychiatrists in this country, right?
Essentially a medical doctor for mental health.
Why has the profession of psychiatry not stepped up here in this transgender situation and stepped up here about the mental health issues revolving this?
Why have the professionals from these great universities, it seems like they failed us.
peter r breggin
Psychiatry is just the wrong place to turn to for anything other than an increase in authoritarianism and totalitarianism.
From going back all the way to Hippocrates, it's been very secular, it's been very arrogant, it's been prescriptive of drugs and now shock treatment and lobotomy, which I spent many years successfully fighting early in my career.
Psychiatry is the wrong place to go and people still making that mistake because psychiatrists actually live on a materialistic mythology that the problems with our spirit, our soul, the things that religion traditionally deals with, good philosophy deals with, that these are actually material problems of biochemical imbalances.
So you go to a psychiatrist expecting to meet somebody who knows more about people and lives and suffering than maybe your grandmother or your wife or husband and is actually an ignoramus who has bought a materialistic religion that gives him a lot of power and a lot of money.
So you got to think about psychology in general and unfortunately psychotherapy, social work, The various aspects of the mental health field are dominated by psychiatry.
We need an alternative therapy that ties into the values of the Judeo-Christian traditions and religions and into the Declaration of Independence.
I've been thinking a lot about this.
I have the honor lately of working with a lot of people in the movement who see me and they come to me and talk to me, and they've got good values.
That's the basic starting point for good health.
steve bannon
Dr. Bregan, we'll take a short commercial break.
We're going to come back. We're going to talk about the hope is fuel your current endeavors, why this conference is so important.
Dr. Peter Breggin, one of the leaders of this movement, thought leaders.
Next, in The War Room.
unidentified
CCD!
They have all lied for too long!
Host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
By the way, we're going to be doing the vote today at I think 2 or 3 o'clock.
I'll get to Grace. We're going to be live on Getter for that.
So just go to my Getter feed.
Go to the worm Getter feed.
We're going to have Matt Gaetz. There's going to be a debate, I think, starting at 2 o'clock.
We're going to be all over it.
I want to go back to Dr. Bregan.
We're going to have Dr. Bregan back on to discuss this whole thing he's putting together about the spiritual nature and the values of the Judeo-Christian West.
But hope is fuel is this conference.
The reason I got excited about it, I saw Dr.
Bregan was going to be one of the main speakers.
Can you tell us about it, Dr.
Bregan? What are you going to be talking about?
It's on the 18th of March.
unidentified
How do people get there? Well, it's Patrick Coffin.
peter r breggin
Dear friend, wonderful man.
He's a very, very spiritual human being.
I think he's among the most spiritual among us.
And he's doing Hope is Fuel.
It's an online summit on Saturday, March 18th, 2023.
And there's going to be a regular presentation by each of five of us, six people.
And then there's going to be a Q&A. That's the basic format, and I think it's going to be really exciting.
It's going to be focusing on the spiritual and psychological underpinning of freedom, the freedom movement.
steve bannon
Dr. Bergen, how do people...
We're going to put up everything about how to get to that, and we'll have you back on before you go, because people need hope more than ever right now.
But your book and your writings, The COVID-19 and The Global Predator, are still one of the best books about this, about the globalization, the globalists.
How do people get to the book?
How do they get to your writing, Ginger's writing, all of it?
Where do they go? Okay.
peter r breggin
Well, the starting point, thank you, Steve, is bregan.com, B-R-E-G-G-I-N, bregan.com.
And you'll find there a section on media.
We have a radio and TV show combined, and then Ginger and I do a radio show, and you can link to all of them through bregan.com.
And then one thing we really want people to do is to get our free We've got a very large audience and, Steve, a 50 % opening rate, which usually is like 3%, so people really like what we're doing.
That's the basic ways.
steve bannon
That's huge. That's huge.
Hope is Fueled. It's on the 18th of March.
We'll get all the information out there.
It's free if you just want to get the tapes.
There's a VIP, too, to get in and get into the chat rooms.
We'll put it all up there. Dr.
Bregan, honored to have you on here, sir.
peter r breggin
Wonderful to see you.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir. One of the most important thought leaders in this movement to break the globalists, Dr.
Peter Bregan. Macilvini's here.
You were at CPAC. Give me your thoughts.
You came with the international contingent, your hearts of oak from Nelson's Navy.
Tell us about your thoughts.
peter mcilvenna
Oh, it was great. I mean, I've been to so many political conferences in the UK, so many UKIP conferences, obviously for Brexit.
But this was another level.
And I think for a Brit, for a UK person, you see this, you watch it each year when it's on.
Different places, and you think, I'd love to be there.
So it was great to be there, to see the razzmatazz, the showbiz, the lights, all that size, to on Media Row, the engagement, the enthusiasm.
I think, actually, just the huge crowds around the war room still.
And I know the time you gave the people...
steve bannon
The posse was very intense.
peter mcilvenna
They were there. They definitely were there.
They were presented. It was good to talk to media outlets, to hear the speeches, to have the energy and the enthusiasm.
At a UK political conference, it's run-of-the-mill.
You do your duty. You tick the boxes.
Something like CPAC, it brings it up a notch.
And you've got not only the intellectual discussion, not only the policy debate, but you've also got the energy and the passion.
And actually, we don't have that. It was great.
steve bannon
What is wrong with the Tories right now?
Because I was with Nigel, and I was kind of shocked because, you know, Nigel's a beloved character to us.
But when you talk about Ukraine, even with Nigel, it's this mindset that you're going to send all the RAF over there.
And I just see the Tories collapsing.
And I keep telling people, for Republican Party, you've got to look at the Tories of how you had a mandate, you didn't deliver, and then it just all collapses, and you're gone for a generation.
peter mcilvenna
Well, with Ukraine and Russia, we have the smallest standing army now in 200 years.
So we've got 82,000 troops.
We are bringing over Ukrainian troops to train them here.
We don't have any of our own, and yet we're bringing them over.
We're sending equipment over.
Talked about, I think, the shortage of munitions that we have in the Baltic states, and it's like a week or so of munitions.
They're talking about the UK being extremely short.
So you've got all of that, and then you've got Weak leadership generally in Rishi Sunak.
I mean, he's tried to talk tough on immigration this week, tried to talk tough on sex education and changing that and protecting schools.
That hasn't happened.
On the same line, we have the online safety bill coming in with full censorship.
We have the buffer zones passed yesterday that means prayer is illegal outside abortion clinics.
We have 13 years of Conservative government and there's nothing Conservative about them.
And I think they will crush and burn.
steve bannon
Why is that? We had Karen England talk about these red states, and we saw from Tucker last night, all these senators dumping on Tucker, no support.
You've seen in these red state legislatures, these red states where the legislatures are too afraid to really get to the bottom of this porn in schools and to protect the children.
What is, because the Tories are very much like the establishment Republicans, they're very close, what is it about these people that they won't act?
peter mcilvenna
It's a fear of being called names.
That's what it seems to be boiled down to because the stuff in the children in schools is a no-brainer.
I mean, you'll get the mass support of parents if you actually begin to protect children and stop all the sexual indoctrination, especially the primary school age.
And it's not happening.
And the Tories have talked about, we'll look into this, we'll see what's wrong.
This has happened under your watch.
I've sat and talked to so many grassroots Tories, and they're angry, but they stick with the party.
They won't go anywhere else.
And as bad as they may think it will be, they will stick with them.
Now, they are getting ready candidates.
Candidates have to be reselected by their local association, and they are dumping.
I think there are about a dozen candidates have been dropped.
I think that will happen, but irrelevant to what candidates they have, they're going to face an absolute bloodbath in the election.
steve bannon
They had this huge thing by Brexit, the biggest majority I think they had in living memory by Brexit.
They didn't execute. Remember, it's execution, execution, execution, action, action, action, how they get to Hearts of Oak in your social media.
peter mcilvenna
At Hearts of Oak, on Getter, on Truth, on Gab, at Hearts of Oak UK, on Twitter, and heartsofoak.org forward slash livestream.
You can catch us on Thursday, 3pm, we've got a long-form interview with Dr.
steve bannon
Robert Malone. By the way, the best way to keep up with everything that's happening on the right wing on the continent, not just in the United Kingdom.
Brother, I know you're up here for meetings.
Thank you very much for dropping by.
The show is packed today.
5 to 7 is going to be even crazier.
Remember, the 6 o'clock hour now, just me.
I'm breaking down some of the signal, not noise, of the news of the day and news of the future.
Natalie Wynn is going to join us at 5.
A lot going on at Capitol Hill.
Charlie Kirk's next. I think Posobiec's sitting in the seat today.
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