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WarRoom Battleground EP 238: How Safe Is It To Stay In East Palestine, Ohio
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia. It's another element that backs them into a quarter and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room. Battleground.
crom carmichael
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome. It is Monday, 20 February in the year of our Lord, 2023.
It is President's Day, and we've had quite a day where we're getting into all of it, from the Ukraine to the nation's capital.
I want to start, I've asked two very special people to kind of kick this off in this hour of the show.
That'd be Ed Dowd and the Mike Adams from Natural News, one of my favorite sites.
Let's start with Ed. So, Ed, you put this thing out.
I saw it over the weekend when you got it to me.
It blew me away. And, of course, the great guys over at Zero Hedge picked it up right away.
The trials should have been halted.
Rate of serious adverse events closely tracks spike in post-facts disabilities.
So that's kind of got, it's going viral.
Everybody's talking about it.
Walk us through. What do you mean, what math shows you that the trial should have been halted?
Because we've made the case here, and our theory of the case is that this is a clinical trial we're doing.
So how do you back that up with a set of mathematics?
I said the trials, if it is a clinical trial, and it has a clinical trial, it should have been halted.
edward dowd
So, in part three of our disability analysis on our website, Finance Technologies, let's just throw up the first chart.
This chart's been on your show before.
It basically showed the vaccine uptake and the disability increases in the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
We had a.89 fit.
And, of course, the naysayers will say, well, correlation is not causation.
But the timing of it's odd.
Certainly, you know, on Wall Street, we wouldn't pay attention to correlation is not causation.
We would buy that chart and just move on and not get into that debate.
But we decided to do an analysis of a paper that came out in September of 22 that reviewed the two-month blinded serious adverse events in the Pfizer clinical trial.
And we took Those serious adverse events, and we came up with our own estimates, and we modeled using very conservative assumptions.
And people will attack our assumptions, but we came up with a disability rate from those two months, and we modeled them forward.
So in the second chart, this is the result of our work.
Basically, we show that there's a.87 % fit, and it's the same order of magnitude in the clinical trials as what we're seeing in the real world.
The mean is below the real world, but we suspect that's due to the very narrow definition of what Pfizer and Moderna called serious adverse events or severe adverse events.
They had a very narrow definition.
They also cherry picked the patients for the clinical trial that were probably much healthier than the general US population.
And so it's underestimating, but it's the same order of magnitude.
It underestimates by two points.
steve bannon
Hold on. I just want to make sure. Hang on.
That's just speculation report about how they chose better ones.
That's your thinking on this, right?
We haven't shown that yet in evidence or data, have we?
edward dowd
No, they chose a very narrow definition of what a serious adverse event is.
Even with that very narrow definition and our conservative modeling, it's the same order of magnitude of what we're seeing in the real world with a 0.87 % fit.
It's 2.6 times less than what's going on in the real world.
In physics, and this is what Carlos and I were talking about, same order of magnitude means in the ballpark.
They were seeing with their very narrow definition of what a serious adverse event was, enough to halt the trial.
And then in part six of our disability analysis, this is part five I'm showing you, We're going to look at another paper on Pfizer's clinical trial, and the fit is almost perfect there.
But at the end of the day, they should have halted the trial mathematically from what they were seeing in the trial.
steve bannon
Knowing that we're still in this quote-unquote trial, what do you think it's going to take?
For instance, is it the insurance companies?
Is it the shorts on Wall Street?
I mean, you've got people that are very aggressive, as you know, from your previous line of work of wanting to get bad news and understand how they think through bad news and how that's going to manifest itself in the operations of a company and ultimately in its stock price.
How do you think This gets disseminated that the fact that this is a trial that should have been halted, but it's still not being halted.
edward dowd
So word is slowly getting out.
When I wrote the book, I noted that the admission of sudden deaths in young people, especially millennials, wasn't going on in the last two weeks.
We've had articles out of Bloomberg saying, yes, millennials are dying.
So they're admitting that young people are dying.
But the headline was, it's not the vaccine.
And also Yahoo News came out with something.
So we're at the point now, we're admitting that there's sudden deaths that are going on amongst young people.
I had a whistleblower in the government tell me that the Biden administration was looking at declaring a pandemic of it and blaming other things.
They haven't done that yet. The fact that young people are dying is getting out there.
That's becoming undeniable.
Obviously, I blame the vaccine.
I'm 150 % convicted.
So the news is going to come out.
And unfortunately, when the news comes out, it's going to cause a lot of fear and a lot of anger in those who don't have this information that you and I have in the war room has had for a long, long time.
The asymmetric information gap is going to close.
It's going to cause chaos. And I suspect what's been going on in the geopolitical front by the global governments is fear and panic inside the halls of power as this comes to light, because a lot of things are going to change once this comes to light.
steve bannon
But have you, first off, have you seen this in other countries to the degree that you have statistics here that you feel comfortable with working, number one?
And what did Bloomberg, when Bloomberg wrote the article, yes, we admit that younger people are dying, did they put it on the pressures that came out of COVID, the lockdowns, the psychological pressures, those types of things?
What did they attribute it to?
edward dowd
Bloomberg attributed to all those.
Yahoo actually made the absurd claim That they talked to an expert, some unnamed expert, that suggested that young people, when they get Omicron now, because that's the current strain going around in COVID, young people respond very adversely because their immune systems are very strong and it causes strokes, heart attacks, and other issues because of the immune response from COVID, natural immune response.
But it's not the vaccine, apparently.
It's your own God-given immune response.
steve bannon
Did they address, did they look at the data that you've looked at and dismissed it?
Nope. And they said it's something other than the VAX, or they will not address it regarding the VAX? They won't go after the VAX. They don't address any of our work.
edward dowd
We're being ignored completely by the mainstream media.
There was a hit piece by AP on the documentary, Died Suddenly.
No mention of my team, my book, or anything like that.
I was not affiliated with the Died Suddenly documentary, nor did I see it.
So, there seems to be a blackout on the data that we have and other people have.
I mean, the data in the U.S., you know, we have the data for all of Europe, the U.K., Australia, and we're gonna do Canada, we have Germany.
It's bad all around.
It's a mixture from old to young, especially amongst the employed of different countries.
We don't have the data down to that granularity, but in the U.S., the employed were adversely ahead because of the mandates.
So, wherever there were mandates, Job mandates in other countries, those people were hit as well.
steve bannon
What is it going to take to have the balloon moment?
Is it going to be a hearing?
Is it going to be you in front of a hearing?
Is it going to be 60 minutes covering this?
What would you anticipate you would need to broaden this out to an audience that's, let's say, not as up to speed on these things but could be brought along if they saw this data?
edward dowd
Well, the beginning was last Tuesday.
I filmed an interview with Tucker Carlson in his Fox Nation longer format series interview.
It's going to drop on Wednesday, and hopefully he puts a clip of some of that interview on his nightly news channel on Tuesday night to promote it.
So it's beginning, and Josh Sterling, one of the insurance executives from Wall Street that helped me out, he is launching a To Save a Million Lives Campaign with 65 insurance executives.
So things are starting to crumble on the inside in the insurance industry and more and more traction.
steve bannon
Hold on. Don't bury the lead.
The Fox Nation is great, particularly the way Tucker can do these in-depth interviews that he doesn't have time for on the shows.
But an insurance executive coming out and saying, I'm getting 60 other insurance executives and I want to save a million lives.
That's blockbuster.
When has Josh launched that?
edward dowd
He released it on Thursday.
It's making the rounds on LinkedIn.
It's basically, it's not an acknowledgment that it's the vaccines per se, but it's an acknowledgment that we have a problem and we need to start testing for all sorts of things to save a million lives.
And they have 65 executives in this working table.
They set up a nonprofit.
They kind of view themselves as the Red Cross of old that has to go in and do triage because no one else will.
steve bannon
Are they looked at as apostates in the insurance industry, or are they looked at as somebody really trying to get, is the insurance industry saying right away that these guys, there's nothing to see here?
edward dowd
We have not had any blowback, to my knowledge, on what's going on with Josh and his team.
But curiously enough, what we really need is a CEO of one of the larger insurance companies to come out and say that he has serious concerns about the vaccine and that they're going to look at it.
We need that. Absent that, this is going to be very helpful.
You have to remember, last year we sent 100 letters to CEOs.
We only got 20 people on the calls with the doctors on the front line.
And from that 20, we had a working group of five.
So the working group of five has expanded to 65 insurance executives from medical teams, actuaries, some CFOs, but it's coming to light and it's a big deal.
steve bannon
Zelensky today, you know, the Chinese head diplomat, foreign service officer, the head of foreign affairs is in Moscow tonight.
They're reinforcing the partnership they've had since the Olympics when they announced they had an unlimited strategic partnership.
Zelensky says...
Kind of, you know, drafting off the war room, that if those two come together on the Ukraine situation, that it's the beginning of the Third World War, something we've said for the longest time and with the Biden regime's policies have driven us to.
Geopolitically, first off, do you agree with that?
Do you think we're at the early stages of the Third World War?
And where do you see this thing heading?
Since you used to specialize in this with all your trading, you were a macro guy.
edward dowd
Yeah, so a couple problems here.
Twitter is on fire today with people just waking up and noticing what the war room and you have noticed for a while that we're on the edge of World War III. A lot of pundits are asking the question, why is our administration insanely running into a World War III situation?
And I suspect, because I'm a cynical guy, that World War III solves a lot of issues, solves the sovereign debt crisis, and solves the vaccine murder that's gone on, wipes a bunch of stuff off the map, and directs everyone's attention to a world war.
Now, I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case, but that's definitely in play, I think.
And the capital markets, Maybe starting to sniff this out.
The U.S. dollar in a World War III situation would go up quite a bit.
And the dollar, the DXY, the basket of, you know, the index that is the basket of currencies bottomed last about two weeks ago and is starting to go up.
We think it put it in a very significant bottom.
And also the stock market is on razor's edge right now.
I don't like to make predictions, but if I had to guess, the stock market's going to fall apart in the next week or two.
steve bannon
You wouldn't think there would be some flight to safety?
That they would look at the United States as the safe harbor in a world gone mad, sir?
edward dowd
It's the most liquid instrument.
The technicals suggest that's what's going to happen, and we suspect that we've seen some buyers come back into the bond market and The Fed is going to have to pause if there is a World War III. I don't think they're going to be hiking into a World War III situation.
steve bannon
Ed, how can people get access to you, all your contact points and coordinates on the website, the book, and the social media?
edward dowd
Yeah, so I'm on Getter, at Edward Dowd.
I'm back on Twitter, at DowdEdward.
Finance Technologies with a PH instead of an F. It's got all our excess mortality and U.S. disability data.
And then I have my own personal website, Daylight People Die.
I also wrote a book that is kind of a book for your loved ones that don't think what we know is true.
And that can be ordered on Amazon, Cause Unknown, Epidemic of Sudden Death in 21 and 22.
steve bannon
No, that book is going to be the touchstone.
We're going to be one of the basics for the hearings that are going to come up, and we'll get into all that as we start rolling.
Ed Dowd, honored to have you on here.
Thanks for taking time away to do this today.
edward dowd
Thank you. Take care, Steve.
steve bannon
I want to get Mike Adams. Don't put the cold open for us.
I want to get Mike Adams. So, Mike, I want to get your thinking about, before I get into the specifics of East Palestine, you're one of the smartest geopolitical thinkers I know.
Give me your thoughts about what Ed Dow just said, what Zelensky said.
We've been preaching this gospel.
You know China as well as anybody.
We've been preaching this gospel of the Third World War for a while.
Give us your thoughts on what's happened over the last 24, 48 hours.
mike adams
Well, I think Ed Dowd just nailed it.
And by the way, his numbers and his statistical analysis are right on.
No one's got stronger numbers than he does.
No one's put more elbow grease into this, statistically speaking, than he has.
And he knows that the tipping point is very close.
And so World War III is being, I believe, accelerated by U.S. State Department in particular, people like Victoria Nuland and Blinken and others.
In order to cover these other massive crimes that are really, really close to a breaking point.
And also, of course, you've got to figure in the Nord Stream pipeline.
steve bannon
But hang on. Although Admiral Kirby came out today and said it's a stone-cold lie that Seymour Hersh is wrong.
I just want to make sure we're getting both sides here so people can't say that we're conspiracy theory wingnuts.
Kirby did come out today and said it's a total lie to the Hersh thing.
Are you saying that because you can't see any internal logic?
The reason you're saying, hey, it's got to be to cover something else, because there's no internal logic for us to force these two world superpowers together in partnership with now the Mullahs in Iran, the Saudis, the Pakistan, Turkey, in a war to consolidate the Eurasian landmasses.
Do you say that it's got to be like Ed does?
It's got to be to cover for this, cover that.
Because there's no other geopolitical logic that would lead you to think of what Blinken and Biden and Jake Sullivan have done here?
mike adams
Well, I think the more compelling argument is that there are so many domestic issues that are about to break that they really need to change the tune dramatically and change people's focus onto something that's a bigger emergency.
So that's where I really do think this is coming from, but I also believe that the West The Western powers believe that if they don't establish monetary dominance and petrodollar dominance from this point forward, that they're in real trouble because of the Saudis and China and the digital yuan.
And Iran and Russia are working together on those issues.
So this seems like a tipping point right now where the future of the world reserve currencies and the world transactional currencies is about to be determined over the next two years or so.
And the West either wins or loses.
I mean, all the chips are on the table at this point.
It's either going to be the East or the West, so they're all in.
steve bannon
And people, I think our audience may not know about your expertise when it comes to China.
Give us a minute on your curriculum vitae.
I know the site has amazing pieces up there, but give us your personal experience of why you know China so well.
mike adams
Well, look, I want to give credit to Jack Posobiec.
I mean, he knows more about China than I do, but I lived in Taiwan, and my wife's family escaped the Chinese communists with Chiang Kai-shek.
They've been fighting for freedom for the Chinese people ever since.
That's the American tradition of what we do, but it's a global application of it.
We believe in freedom for the Chinese people.
We believe in ending the CCP. We're not anti-China.
We are pro-Chinese people.
We're anti-tyranny.
So that drives a lot of what we do globally.
Internationally, right now, think about how odd it is that China is lending money to the United States so the U.S. can pay the salaries of the Ukrainian government to fight Russia.
How long is that situation going to remain in place?
At some point, that ends.
And I have a feeling that China's going to initiate an attempted, you've talked about this, an attempted naval and air embargo against Taiwan very quickly.
And if so, the economic implications are dire.
steve bannon
We have a stake in Taiwan.
Whether you believe in the moral situation of us defending a real democracy and someone that's been there for us for many, many decades, 25 % of the U.S. economy will fall out and probably worse than that.
What do people in Taiwan do you think feel when they see that now the M1A1 tank that we've issued for them is backed up now in Lima, Ohio.
The Ukrainians come first there.
Now we're seeing the ammunition.
We're running out of ammunition.
The head of the Navy, Secretary of the Navy said before they made him take it down that, hey, if it keeps running in Ukraine like it's running, we're going to be out of weapons in the Western Pacific in six months.
Are the Taiwanese starting to get nervous?
Because they think there's too much attention on Ukraine and not enough attention on the Straits of Taiwan and the South China Sea?
mike adams
Absolutely. The Taiwan leadership is very much aware of the munitions production problem that the United States is currently facing and even promising M1 Abrams tanks or promising 90,000 artillery shells a month, that's two years in the future.
The US military infrastructure does not exist to deliver those things today when they're needed today.
So if Taiwan were to face an attack or an embargo by China, The munitions just aren't able to sustain that defense of the island nation that's critical for the U.S. economy.
So I think that we've been very foolish in sending so much to Ukraine that we cannot defend Taiwan and we cannot defend the continental United States as effectively as we could before.
And we better light a fire under the U.S. military to get their factories up and running and get our munitions supply back in place.
I mean, look, we're looking at global shortages of commodities, price hikes, labor shortage in the United States, especially in munitions factories.
The supply chain globally is broken for lots of reasons, not the least of which is Russia and Ukraine, that conflict, and the SWIFT system.
A lot of the munitions materials rely on global supply chains that depend in part on Russia itself, including aluminum, so it's complicated.
steve bannon
Mike, you know, we have the production team here in Denver, in Memphis, and here in the capital, wherever we go to do the show in one of our studios.
But we also have what I call the engine room, people that monitor sites all day long.
And the engine room had been talking to me saying, look, You've got to get Mike Adams on here and have him, because we're talking, you know, we're nailing people about what happened after the train crash, you know, the drama's one thing, but about the decision to release, the decision to burn, who's responsible, President Trump's coming, but you're the great expert over at Natural News on detox.
What is Mike Adams' thoughts here?
And you've heard all the spin from different people and DeWine's running away from it.
None of the senior guys in EPA want to get near the place.
mike adams
What is your action plan for what you think needs to happen to actually sort the situation out in East Palestine and do what's right for the earth, for the country, for nature, and for the citizens out there, sir? Well, I'm going to join the call of a guest I just interviewed, Eric Coppolino, and he and I are both calling for the immediate total evacuation of the town of East Palestine.
The EPA is lying.
They are not testing for dioxins, and dioxins are the chemical result of the combustion of chlorinated compounds, such as vinyl chloride.
That entire area is going to be contaminated for generations to come.
If they don't do immediate remediation, We're going to have a long-term cancer curve that will be absolutely catastrophic, in my opinion.
Now, I'm going to confirm all of this.
In my laboratory, we're right now acquiring a gas chromatography interface to our mass spec instruments.
We're going to be able to test for dioxins within a couple of months, and we're building a network of people who can sample the area.
I don't trust the EPA. I don't trust even the railroad's labs.
unidentified
We're going to do independent laboratory testing.
steve bannon
Perfect. Hang on for a second.
Mike Adams, you're so revered in many parts of the, you know, let's say the right political spectrum.
Some of the left too, the right, the populist nationalists.
When you speak, people listen.
You're calling for, because Mike DeWine in the EPA of Ohio and our EPA and the consultants working for A company that's got a $54 billion market cap, that would be Norfolk Southern, have said, hey, it's okay, it's fine, you know, this thing we've tested, everybody can kind of go back in.
You're actually saying you want the whole town evacuated and we've got to get down to the basics here.
We've got a problem, a deep problem.
mike adams
Yes. Now, especially women of childbearing age, children and pregnant women, Should have evacuated from day one.
They should be gone from that town right now.
But there is also risk to everybody else.
They should be removed or relocated from that town.
And given a place to stay, the railroad, the government, FEMA should step in at this point.
We need testing of dioxins.
And then Should the dioxins come in at even very low concentrations, we're talking about toxicity in femtograms, which is one one-millionth of a billionth of a gram, okay?
Toxicity at that level, hormone disruption, cancers, infertility, spontaneous abortions, long-term effects.
We may have to take down the entire town as what happened in Times Beach, Missouri.
And they may have to scrape off all the soil of the entire area, incinerate it, and then remediate that and turn it into something where no one lives for a century.
Okay? That's how bad this situation looks like it is.
We're working on confirming- Yes.
steve bannon
Okay. What caused that?
We've got about a minute and a half here and we're going to hold you to the break.
The Norfolk Southern CEO said they had guys check and did some analysis before they did the control release, which is not their authority to do, but it looks like they called the shot on the control release first and then the control burn.
How could scientists or people that do this for a living miss this so badly?
mike adams
Well, they're not scientists, they don't understand chemistry, and it's not a controlled burn.
It's an uncontrolled burn at relatively low temperatures that don't accomplish molecular incineration.
So in order to incinerate these dioxins, you need much higher temperatures, a couple thousand degrees Fahrenheit.
The open pit burn did not achieve those temperatures.
So, in effect, it formed new toxic compounds during this uncontrolled burn that released it into the open air where the wind could carry it anywhere and the rain will bring it down onto the soils.
Steve, we're talking about contamination of the food supply, contamination of rivers.
I mean, even Cincinnati cut off the intake from the Ohio River as a precaution.
And they're not testing for dioxins in the water, by the way.
They're testing for other compounds, but not dioxins.
So I call this the don't see, don't tell policy of chemical toxicity.
If you don't test for it, you won't see it.
steve bannon
Mike Adams from Natural News.
Hang on for a second. We're going to take a short commercial break.
We've got Mike Adams. Father Frank Pavone is going to join us also.
I think there's now a strategy from at least forming from the Right to Life movement politically.
We're also going to go out to Oklahoma City and we're going to talk to Crom Conrad.
Short break. Back with Mike Adams in a second.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
Okay, Mike Adams from Natural News is our guest here.
Mike, just so we're not freaking people out, how did you get to the dioxin situation and this was not a control?
The Norfolk Southern has been saying it over and over again, Josh Shapiro saying it, DeWine saying it, the EPA administrator saying it was a controlled burn.
Your theory that this was uncontrolled and caused dioxins, how did you come up with that?
mike adams
Well, it's uncontrolled in the sense that it went into the atmosphere and it was burned in an open pit and all the smoke went into the sky and then it spread and we can track the area where it spread to.
And the products of combustion of vinyl chloride or other chlorinated compounds include dioxins.
This is well known in industry.
No chemist would argue with that.
So the term controlled burn is a lie.
It's a cover story. It wasn't controlled.
If it were controlled, it would be in a container.
It would be in a room.
To control it would be to cart it off in tanker trucks and then incinerate it in a controlled high temperature chemical incinerator, toxic waste disposal.
steve bannon
That did not happen. The CEO said over the weekend, and we pulled the clip this morning, he quoted that he knew it was successful when he saw the black plume coming up out of the thing.
He told a TV station, I think a local TV station in Atlanta, that he knew it was successful when he saw the black plume, the really black, heavy smoke.
He knew he'd had a success on his control burn.
mike adams
What say you, sir? Well, that's an admission that it's an uncontrolled burn.
That's an admission of the toxic chemicals going into the atmosphere, and what goes up will come down.
And when it comes down, which is already beginning to happen, look at the fish die-offs, look at the people reporting themselves as sick, coughing up blood in some cases, the chloracne effects, the skin effects, the tingling sensations, they're on the skin of some people.
These are all early signs of what will be a long-term increase Very likely, very high cancer rates for decades to come.
We're talking about an ecological catastrophe that is unprecedented in the history of this nation.
steve bannon
No joke. Why is it when you have EPA and all these other, why is no one else coming forward?
In fact, Mike DeWine, his EPA said it was fine.
They actually sent the people back home in a couple of days, and in fact, having kept the schools closed for a year because of the CCP virus, they sent the kids back to the school in the town on Monday, five days after the quote-unquote controlled release and the controlled burn.
What say you, sir?
mike adams
Well, you know, we've seen this before in the old Soviet Union, Chernobyl, I think 1986, they told people go home, there's no radiation, because the people couldn't see the radiation.
Well, people can't see dioxins, especially at femtograms or picogram.
Nobody knows it's there until the effects kick in.
And these are not necessarily acute short-term effects.
So what we need is testing for dioxins.
We need honest, independent laboratories and analysis.
And we need to exercise the precaution principle, which is not being done here.
And by the way, Steve, I believe that if this accident had happened under the watch of President Donald J. Trump, the media would have called it an ecological disaster.
I think that they're covering for this politically.
Because it happened under Biden.
That's just my theory, but I think that's the way the media operates these days.
steve bannon
Mike, you had a guest on your show.
I know you're doing a piece. When can people expect that up?
We'll put it everywhere, but when do you anticipate you're going to have your write-up on this up on your site?
mike adams
12 noon tomorrow Eastern.
It'll be up. Interview an article.
steve bannon
Perfect. Mike Adams, how do they get to Natural News, and what is your social media, sir?
mike adams
Naturalnews.com, and they can find me on Truth Social.
Just look for Health Ranger.
I'm on Gab, I'm on Getter, Truth Social, Telegram, and Brighttown.social as well, which is our platform.
So pretty easy to find in alt media.
Thank you for having me on.
steve bannon
Mike Adams, honored always to have you on.
Thank you very much, sir. Appreciate it.
Honored, sir. Thank you. Health Ranger Mike Adams over at Natural News.
Pretty scary. We're going to be doing a lot of this leading up to President Trump's visit on Wednesday.
Remember, it's a tale of two cities.
Biden's in Ukraine, Trump's going to East Palestine.
I want to bring in Father Provone.
Father Provone, you and I talked, you know, today Politico had a story about, it was a big, it was from McGraw.
She's one of the best reporters they've got there.
Alison McGraw, I think her name is.
She's one of the best reporters. And she had this piece, it was a lead story this morning.
That said Trump is going to have a tough time selling two of his biggest accomplishments to a broad public and even, quite frankly, to some of the MAGA base for the 2024 primary and then for the general.
And those two they picked out was the VAX, and we've been covering that nonstop about the—and we just had to add doubt on here about the failure of the— Of the clinical trial.
But the other was Roe v.
Wade and the judges and all that.
And one of the things you and I discussed a lot is, is there a plan going for it?
Is there a strategy going for it?
Is it going to be federal level? Is it going to be state level?
You've had a time now to gather with some folks and think some things through.
So give us a situation report of where you guys stand in your working group.
father frank pavone
Yes, Steve. You know, thank you for having me on tonight because I know that our audience around the country is always asking me and asking many other leaders, hey, are the groups working together?
And the good news is we are.
We had about 43 national pro-life leaders gathered at our Peace for Life headquarters over the last few days.
And we discussed what you're just saying now, elections.
We discussed legislation.
What do we want with the new Congress?
We discussed how do we educate the candidates?
When it comes to abortion, we discussed President Trump, and we talked about a number of other things like the chemical abortions and also these individual state battles.
The bottom line is this, that first of all, candidates, starting with the presidential candidates, should not be afraid of the abortion issue.
Now, I'm afraid sometimes commentary like what you just mentioned may make them afraid.
I mean, it should make us vigilant.
It should make us work harder on strategy.
But the fact is, when a candidate explains why he or she In favor of protecting children from their earliest age, that is a winning issue if they express it confidently, compassionately, knowledgeably, and don't run away from the issue.
You know, so many consultants have said over the years, oh, well, just say to people that you're pro-life and then pivot to a different topic.
Well, no, because then that gives the other side the chance to redefine what you mean by pro-life, and they run away with the argument.
The leaders that gathered together were very, very clear and strong that we're going to recommit ourselves to doing candidate education in the coming months and leading up to 2024.
We're going to commit ourselves also To making sure candidates understand, as federal candidates, that they need to call for a gestational limit on abortion.
Let's start talking seriously about protecting these unborn children, not just regulating the funding of abortion or anything like that.
That do also need to be done, but let's get to the core of where so many Americans are that, yeah, these children should actually be protected.
People should be confident.
The groups are working even more and more together, and I was happy to have this gathering just at the end of last week.
steve bannon
What is the bifurcation?
One of the things that we continue to hammer on is this issue at the federal level, or is it going to go back to the states?
I mean, we had a lot of people. You were kind enough to visit with us in studio during the March for Life, and I had a lot of people that we've been hosting people here Since, I don't know, the 14 years, the 10 or 11 years, 12 years we've been here.
And a lot of them said, this is my last march for life.
I'm going to focus on the state.
When you get the 43 groups in a room, what is the basic?
Where's directionally where they go on?
They're saying, let's leave the federal aside.
Let's go to all focus on the states.
Are they saying the Lindsey Graham thing, this thing of a federal mandate?
Maybe it makes sense. Where do you think that's coming out?
father frank pavone
Steve, it was unanimous among these 43 national groups that the battle over abortion going forward here is a national and state Interface.
In fact, what we discussed was as we have more and more state battles, and listen, our viewers in Ohio need to be aware there's a strong pro-abortion ballot initiative coming up.
It's in the works right now.
They're aiming for 2023 to have the abortion on demand on the ballot.
We resolved at this meeting, first of all, that the national groups need to pour more effort into each one of these state battles The state battles need to be national battles.
But furthermore, everyone in that room agreed that when it comes to legislation, we need both working together.
Because after all, that's the way our government is set up.
The states have a serious responsibility, but so does the Congress.
So for example, if Congress, let's say in 2025, you know, we get that, get the Senate back and get the White House back.
And keep the house. What we're going to have is the possibility to start protecting these babies on a federal level, and then, because of the supremacy clause of the Constitution, a protection will kick in, even in the blue states that have put abortion on demand into their constitutions.
So this, when we've been explaining this to people in those blue states, they have been very, very encouraged.
These two levels work together.
The Dobbs decision, it's important for people to understand, The Dobbs decision that overturned Roe v.
Wade did not absolve Congress of its responsibility to legislate on abortion.
As a matter of fact, one of the key briefs in the case was from hundreds of members of Congress who were saying, let us do our job.
Let us make laws regarding the unborn.
So it returned the issue to, and this is the wording of the decision, the people and their elected representatives.
That covers all levels of government, federal, state, and even local government, where we see cities Banning abortions within the city limits.
So everyone in the room has agreed on this.
We've got to have national and state collaboration, and these leaders are more ready than ever to bring that about.
steve bannon
When you talk, look, the Republican Party and the candidates, it's a consulting class that the Democrats don't quite have, and they control the money, they control access to the donors, all that.
When you had these articles coming out like Alison McGraw, and she wasn't trying to be, it was not a hit piece.
It was just basically a laying out of the facts as the conventional wisdom in secular Washington looks at what's all about money and power.
And even where they said, yes, there's obviously a lot of strengths and activity at the state level, but as soon as you talk about the federal level, that could be another third rail of politics, particularly given what happened, whether rightly or wrongly.
It's the way it's been positioned.
How does the 43 groups get over that?
How do you get over that hump when you've only got so many resources, so much time, so much ability to focus?
How does that play into what your guys say has got to be both a national and a state?
father frank pavone
Well, candidate education came up when we started talking about this.
Now, some of the groups are already doing it.
We do it. Susan B. Anthony, Pro-Life America does it.
A number of the other groups, smaller groups.
But that's why we're starting now.
We had this meeting now because we said, right now, those that know that they're going to run in 24, we need to start meeting with them now and showing them how to win, how to speak persuasively On this pro-life issue in a way that's not going to scare people.
You know, and one of the things, for example, that we were discussing is how, you know, in Texas, where they have essentially ended abortion and brought protection to all these babies from They had in the very same bill that made abortions illegal over $100 million for moms who are in these pregnancy situations that they feel they can't handle.
That side of it to show that we're the compassionate ones.
We are not abandoning women to an impossible situation.
We are there by their side.
That's one of many ways that we're going to get these candidates more on board.
steve bannon
Fr. Frank, how do people get access?
What are your coordinates, the site, Priest for Life, also your personal and all your different social media?
father frank pavone
The website is endabortion.us, endabortion.us, and my social media handle is frfrankpavone and all the major platforms, frfrankpavone.
steve bannon
The Right to Life movement, a major part, a foundational element of the MAGA movement.
So, Father Frank, thank you so much.
Honored to have you on here. Glad the groups are working together.
Glad 43 got together and they come out with a sense of unanimity.
So that's fantastic to hear.
father frank pavone
Yes, Steve, it is. Thank you for having me, as always.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir. Look forward to having you back.
Let's go out to Oklahoma. Kathy, we've got a very special event coming up this Saturday.
Tell people about it. I couldn't be more excited to come out there and join you folks, and I want to make sure we get as many people as possible can attend and know about it.
unidentified
What do we got going on? Yes, Steve.
We're excited to have you, our great posse leader.
Since our last call, we've got calls from all over the country, including Savannah, Georgia.
Wanting tickets to our 2023 Lincoln Reagan dinner.
So we are very excited about the response.
This year our event is at the National, I always remember this name, the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum.
We call it the Cowboy Hall of Fame here.
And it is a fabulous venue.
It's steeped in all kinds of heritage of Oklahoma.
And this year, The museum is going to give every patriot who comes to our event a free ticket to come back and visit the museum after the event is over.
steve bannon
That's fantastic.
unidentified
Yeah, it's going to be a fun event.
We've also had three really nice big patriots give us donations of exotic trips that we are going to raffle off in the golden ticket So we've added a lot of fun things, but most importantly, you know, the county is really focused on funding precincts and helping VETC candidates with candidate funding this year also.
So we have some really good goals that we want to accomplish for the county of Oklahoma.
We're the largest voting bloc in Oklahoma.
We have 288 precincts.
And only 25 % of those have a chairman.
steve bannon
Wow. Well, we'll make sure we take care of that.
Once again, it's going to start at 6 o'clock on Saturday.
How do people, particularly people listening to the podcast on radio, where do they go?
Because we've got the site up there right now, and I want to make sure Grace and Captain Ben get in all the chats.
Where do folks go to get tickets and to find out more information about it?
unidentified
Okay, go to our website, www.okcogop.com.
That's www.okcogop.com, and you can get tickets, you can buy a table, if you want to bring a group of friends.
You can buy your golden ticket online.
We really would love to see you all, and Steve, we cannot wait to see you.
And I hope I know who your fourth person is.
I'm just guessing.
steve bannon
Kathy, it's so great to do this, and I'm honored.
I'm really excited about seeing the museum.
I've got to tell you, I want to meet the folks out there.
But this museum is something, I love Western history.
I love Oklahoma, love Western history, and so I'm really excited about joining.
And I tell everybody, I will give a Sidewinder speech.
I'll give you a speech that will make it worth attending.
So I look forward to everybody coming out there.
Kathy, thank you. So much.
We'll push this hard. Thank you.
Okay, it's the Lincoln Reagan dinner this Saturday night in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma at the Cowboy Hall of Fame or the Museum of Cowboys and Western Heritage.
Really excited. Let me go to Kram.
Kram, I got to get you on because people are raving about salty.
I don't think I talked to anybody that says, hey, this salty thing is amazing.
Walk us through what it is and where you can get it.
crom carmichael
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And I tell you what, the Lincoln Reagan dinner, what a great name for a dinner.
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Now that is a bigger drop than our trials suggested.
But I also think I was a little bit more overweight than a lot of the people in the trial.
So I benefited more.
But my cholesterol has remained, my bad cholesterol has remained under 90 ever since.
And the posse, by the way, has reacted very, very favorably and very positively.
And the way that people can get our product to get salty is to go to warroomhealth.com.
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steve bannon
Solty, I gotta tell you, everybody raves about it.
Krom, thank you so much for coming on here.
Appreciate it. Appreciate you getting this to us so that everybody can benefit from it.
unidentified
Thank you, brother. Thank you.
steve bannon
Tomorrow, 10 a.m., it's going to be lit.
We're going to probably start with the Todd Benzman situation, the live press conference.
Go from there. It's going to be on fire.
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