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Episode 2529: Ukraine 'We Will Never Have Enough Weapons
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Baskin.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back. It is Saturday, 18 February, Year of the Lord 2023.
Let's go out to Michigan.
Matt DiPerno. Big day, Matt, for the grassroots movement, for MAGA, for the deplorables, and the Trump movement, and yourself.
Tell us what's going on. Yeah, absolutely, Steve.
unidentified
Thanks for having me on. We're at the Republican State Convention right now.
I'm running to be the Michigan chairman of the party because it's time to fix this party.
We've recruited a lot of delegates over the last year and a half to two years following your plan.
Now it's time to give those delegates a voice, bring credibility back to the party, figure out how to raise money in Michigan and start winning elections.
steve bannon
Isn't this the establishment's worst nightmare?
I mean, why would they ever allow Matt DiPerno in the precinct strategy folks, Steve Stern, you know, Dan Schultz, all the great patriots?
Why in a million years would the money allow Matt DiPerno, who's their worst nightmare, to become chairman of the Michigan GOP sort?
unidentified
Yeah, well, it is their worst nightmare.
It's something they're terrified of, but we're gonna go outside of Michigan and help raise money to bring it back here because a lot of people across this great country care about Michigan.
They want the electoral votes to go to the Republican candidate for president.
They know this is a swing state, and right now we got the Democrats trying to move up our primary and reduce Michigan's electoral votes to nine to make Michigan insignificant.
We gotta fight against that.
steve bannon
Is it your contention and the folks, the grassroots folks out there, we must win Michigan in 2024 to deliver the presidency again?
Is this like we did in 16?
Is Michigan absolutely an essential state, sir?
unidentified
Absolutely. We gotta bring Michigan back to the Republican side, and we're gonna do that.
We have an entire plan on how to raise money, again, outside the establishment clutches, and that involves the delegate program.
We're gonna motivate, activate, and inspire these delegates across the state to get out and get to work fighting Democrats and fighting their corrupt elections.
steve bannon
Matt, how do people follow this today and how do people follow and find out more about your crusade out there in Michigan?
unidentified
Yeah, they can follow us on Twitter at DiPerno4, the number 4, M-I, or on Twitter at M. DiPerno and Truth Social at M. DiPerno.
steve bannon
Matt DiPerno, Godspeed, sir, and tell everybody out there we love them, we got their back.
unidentified
All right, appreciate it. Thank you, Steve.
Have a good day. Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
DiPerno's been in this fight since the early hours of, what was it, the 4th of November in the year of our Lord, 2020.
Is Lehi, I mean, is Lindell up?
Mike Lindell is out.
Our on-scene commander is the Mike Lindell.
Mike, what in the heck are you doing out in Michigan today, sir?
mike lindell
Well, I've been to five states in three days, but I had to get here to support Matt in Michigan.
And we did, I think last night, we were going room to room, like seven speeches.
In an hour. I mean, it was pretty amazing, but everybody's hopeful here.
I really get, you know, after this midterm election, I had more, I call it just depressed.
They were so depressed, sad, looking for hope, calls from Michigan more than any other state.
And now I get here and I see such hope.
It inspires me, Steve, even being here.
And, you know, I opened my I opened up my speech yesterday with, you know, Matt's been fighting this from the beginning with me, you know, way back when we did After Blue Proof, but I told him about two states now that it looks like they're gonna be completely machine-free by this summer, and the crowd went crazy.
And I told him, I said, they talked about the Republican Party being broken.
I said, we had to break down before we're coming to the bottom up here and uniting.
And I told him, I was promised by Ronna McDaniel that she would work with Mike Lindell and work with all of us.
And I will tell you this.
I told about one of these states has a big blocker in it.
It's a Republican. I'm going on my show on Monday, and I'm giving him until Monday to change his mind.
That's it. We're not going to be blocked anymore to get our country back, to get Michigan back, and to get our freedoms back.
We don't, we don't have time.
We're running out of time here. By the way, Steve, everyone here, I think everyone here is in the war room posse.
They all, they come up, you know, I watch you every day.
Every day I'm going, I go, well, I'm not out there every day.
You're watching Steve every day, but they just love your show.
And they, uh, they're, they're just, uh, they're fighters out here in Michigan.
And, uh, I've talked, I've probably talked to a thousand people and, uh, campaigning for Matt and, um, And even the ones that aren't voting for him, they asked me a lot of questions, why?
And I said, well, Matt's been in the fight since the beginning, and even when I thought I was alone back then, here comes this lawyer from Michigan fighting like the president.
I was with our real president, Donald Trump, two days ago, and he said, you know, Matt's like one of those mafia lawyer fighters.
He just fights the mafia.
They knock him down, he sits back up.
So it's a lot of fun.
I love getting ready with the people.
And by the way, today is a very important day to me.
Six years ago today, I got a full surrender to Jesus Christ.
That was February 18th, 2017, everybody.
And to celebrate that, I'm going on Jimmy Swagger tomorrow night to do my testimonial to the world.
I've been talking, so many people here have my book and stuff, they're coming up and saying, you know, I read your book, I was saved, I surrendered to Jesus, and I said, that combines everybody.
We're in the biggest revival for Jesus Christ in history.
I see it all around, even at this convention.
Everybody's just talking, you know, it's God bless.
You know, we've got to put God back in our schools.
I hear hope. I hear a lot of these places in Michigan where they won their districts or whatever, and they're putting God back into the schools.
So there's hope everywhere, and that hope is Jesus.
steve bannon
How is this revival in your mind?
You've gone around. How do you believe this revival is informing this movement, this grassroots movement?
By the way, we love the folks in Michigan.
And the reason they watch it, they're part of the Fight Club, right?
These guys are fighters. They're not – the unity deal is we're going to unite after we win, OK? We're not going to tolerate what they're trying to do to this country to destroy it.
That's why people want to fight right now.
That's where they show up.
The fight is a political fight.
It's at the grassroots. Mike, some of the establishment swells have been telling me, oh, with DiPerno and Lindell and Dan Schultz and all the hobbits you've got taking these seats, the phrase they use, Mike, is the inmates are now going to run the asylum.
How would you respond to that, sir?
mike lindell
Well, I'll tell you.
It's kind of like what I said yesterday to all the people here.
We're coming through.
We're coming through.
If you don't like what we're doing, get out of our way, because we're going to take our country back.
We are winning. It all had to get bad.
This was all in God's timing, but the time is now.
And people are pouring over into this common-sense bucket.
Call it the new Republican Party, the common-sense bucket.
And that's where we're at.
And we're not—I'm telling—I'm saying this is a warning to all you Republicans.
I just—you know, they just voted me with the RNC chair.
A lot of things came out of there.
And I'll tell you what.
I met with those 168.
And you know what? If we come—when we come to your state, And the precinct people, when we all come there and we're doing what we have to do to straighten out our elections, you better get it out of our way if you're not gonna be on board.
Because we're gonna put it out there.
We're gonna find out where more and more rhinos are and more and more bad people.
So you better hunker down now if you don't want to join us, because we're going to call you out, every single one of them.
I'm sick of it, Steve. We're coming through.
We're going to get our country back.
And these people, the people on the ground, this is a uniting, by the way, of the people.
It's just that you've got the party.
They call this divide in the party.
This is the establishment, and they better wake up because we've been educated now over the last two years.
It's been quite a process.
Now we're going to see the manifestation of two years of hard work.
steve bannon
I know you can't announce it, but the two states, when will you be able to announce the two states that are pretty far along about getting rid of the machines overall and going to paper ballots in a hand-counted paper ballot, sir?
mike lindell
I'm going to announce it this week.
I'll try and come on the war room.
And the reason I'm waiting this week is I'm giving two blockers four days to make up their mind.
They're either going to be with us or against us.
Because when we announce this, we're not going to, it's a big group of counties in this state and in both states, and we're not going to tolerate any kind of a block.
So if they're on board, We're going to announce this week.
And if we're going to announce this week regardless, their names won't come up because these two states are going to be the spirit.
And by the way, one of them has an election this spring.
Can you imagine, Steve, one state with no computers, a perfect prototype for the world.
To our country, the world, to everyone.
This system is better than France, Germany, the UK, and the Netherlands.
I've looked at all the systems.
This new system, it's the best.
I spent four hours yesterday going through a demonstration of this hand-counted paper ballot.
Any question you would ask as a namesayer, they're going, okay, what about this?
What about this? Check this out.
Check this out. So it's just like when I invented the pillow, Steve, when they said, can you wash and dry it?
Can you do this? Can you do this?
Yes, you can. Yes, you can.
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steve bannon
Here's my hat. Mike, we just have a few minutes left.
We started in Ashbury University in Kentucky, this revival.
We've got about two minutes.
Talk to people about how your life changed six years ago today when you were already a Christian, but you actually turned your life over to Jesus Christ.
Walk us through the changes in your life.
Because everybody tells me, the first thing they tell about, you're fearless.
mike lindell
Go ahead. Right. Well, you know, I always wanted to be, God was always chasing me.
And you always see I wore my cross for years, even when I was on crack.
I wanted to be that person.
I wanted to be, you know, what I've seen other people have, this personal relationship with Jesus.
And when I, on February 18th of 2017, I went into a, it was actually a veteran's retreat.
I'm not a veteran, but it was a blessing I got to go there.
And I went in there with hope.
And I came out, when I did that full surrender, I was able to forgive myself like Jesus forgave me for all my sins.
But I had to forgive myself for something way back in my past.
And what I thought was going to be, I didn't know what to expect, but it was like I was set free.
I was able to finally talk.
I had a fear of speaking to people, believe it or not.
I did. I couldn't.
And here, two months later, I did 60,000 people at US Bank Stadium, led them in prayer.
And I just got filled with the Holy Spirit, and it's just so easy.
People say, Mike, keep up the fight.
I only have one fear, and that's fear of the Lord.
Everything else, it just becomes so easy, everybody.
So I encourage everybody.
You know, just stay in the Word.
And one of the things, Steve, do is I would always be reactionary prayer.
God, please let this happen.
If I do this, I'll do this.
And now I can be proactive in prayer because the reaction might not have been God's will.
Things I prayed for might not have been God's will.
Well, where is God's will?
God's will is in the Word.
So if you stay in the Word, your prayers will line up everybody with God's Word and with His will.
Ask Jesus into your heart.
Ask Him to be your personal Savior and get that proof of relationship.
You'll be amazed.
It's the best thing ever. And you know what?
Our fight is here, but the big reward, like when I got off drugs and everything, the big reward is being able to live in Heaven for eternity.
steve bannon
Mike, how do people follow you today while you're in Michigan?
mike lindell
You guys go to Frank's Speech, but otherwise you can find me on Getter and you can find me on Truth Social.
I'm going to be posting stuff as we get through the day here.
I got a lot of news coming this week, Steve.
I'd love to come back on your show.
unidentified
We got lots of things. You have an open invitation always.
steve bannon
Tell everybody out there we got their back.
They're fighting a day in Michigan.
Another front. Thank you, Mike.
unidentified
Appreciate it. Short commercial. Thank you, brother.
steve bannon
Good anniversary back in a moment Stephen K band Okay, welcome back Roy It's a lot to get to in the remaining 45 minutes we have.
Let me just make sure I'm on track.
Yep. Okay. We got a lot to get to.
We're going to get to it all. One of the giants in our movement that always fought for the little guy and was one of the fathers of thinking through economic nationalism, bringing manufacturing back, was Peter Navarro and a guy named Curtis Ellis, who I got very close to.
He used to come on Breitbart Radio.
Back in the old days when I hosted that and I got to know him, he was a key part of the 16 campaign and then afterwards.
East Palestine was the kind of thing that he lived for, to fight and stand up for the American worker, particularly against these corporations.
I'm not anti-corporate.
What I am, I'm anti-corporatist.
I'm anti, you know, because my dad worked for the phone company his entire life, right?
And the phone company was right in back of the Catholic Church, right, of institutions that you believed in and did the right thing.
And I saw so many times as a young kid that they would put the community first, right, over their own profitability or, you know, getting the CEO more money.
That was a different day and time, but we can get back to that.
One of the guys that believed in that and was also one of the first people really to single out the Chinese Communist Party as the central threat to working people throughout the world.
The Lao-Beijing in China, the working people in the United States but throughout the world as they exported really deflation everywhere and crushing people's wages because they lived off the slave labor of the Chinese people.
Maxine Albert is with us.
Posthumously, Curtis passed away a couple of years ago, but we've possibly come up with a fantastic book, and I was very honored to write the foreword for it.
Maxine, talk to us about Curtis, but particularly with East Palestine really centerpiece of the news.
This was something that he lived for.
I mean, he'd have been out there from the first day holding people accountable, would he not, ma'am?
unidentified
Oh, absolutely. And, you know, thanks for having me on the show.
It's important for me to get Curtis's message out because he saw China as the number one enemy, you know, and anything against, you know, the common man who was such a passionate crusader for the working man.
And, you know, he started writing this book before his illness.
He was determined to finish it.
He never stopped rioting.
He never gave up. This was his wake-up call to America, to the country he loved, and his lifelong mission.
You know, Curtis was a true patriot.
He was an impassioned crusader for the working man and to bring jobs back to this country from China.
He was one of the first people who saw China's economic warfare as part of their plan.
to destroy America.
And this book, you wrote the preface, Pandemonium, China's Global Strategy to Cripple America.
I mean, it couldn't be more timely.
Here you have a guy who looks up in the sky in Montana, He sees a balloon, a Chinese spy balloon that's been hovering over our sensitive missile sites, and all of a sudden the country wakes up where, you know, you and Curtis have been calling out the CCP for decades.
steve bannon
Do you think that's kind of a...
Maxine, do you believe that's a Sputnik moment?
Do you think that's a moment that now just the average person who doesn't follow the news every day, all of a sudden they become alert that something's deeply wrong when there's a spy balloon or a spy airship, as I call it, that traverses the entire United States and nobody does anything about it?
The government refuses... Do you think that's a Sputnik moment that all of a sudden the message of Curtis Ellis and what he dedicated his life to about bringing jobs back here and breaking the CCP, that this can become the moment where the movement can actually become bigger?
unidentified
Well, you know, the first wake-up call, which Curtis talks about in the book, was with the pandemic.
When we saw that China controlled all the medical supplies, we couldn't get everything.
And yes, Steve, I do think that.
Because what I'm hearing now is from people who never said anything before.
Oh, look, there's a Chinese spy balloon.
Why is it here over our country?
And why is it over our missile sites?
And what's happening? So I do think it's a wake-up call, you know, something that you and Curtis have been talking about for years.
And what do you think it's going to take for Americans to see that Made in America now is not only about jobs, but it's a national security issue, you know, that we're paying for our own destruction.
steve bannon
Maxine, how do people get to the book?
How do they get there?
unidentified
They can buy the book on Amazon.
They can buy it on Barnes& Noble.
I mean, Curtis talked about if we don't wake up and do something and decouple from China, you know, crisis is inevitable.
What do you think is going to happen if we continue our collaboration with China and not recognize the CCP as our enemy?
steve bannon
Oh, it's destruction. We have to.
And Curtis, and the great thing is Curtis had remedies that did not lead to kinetic war, right?
Economic warfare, information warfare, political warfare.
You can do that and take down the CCP in conjunction with Lao Ba Jing.
That's who's really going to take them down.
And Curtis was the tip of the spear, saying we've got to turn things around here.
Maxine, thank you so much.
Once again, how do we get to the book?
unidentified
You can buy it on Amazon and Barnes and Nobles.
Curtis believes that we can change the world with a change when we decouple from China and that each person, one person at a time, has to stand up and we can do this.
steve bannon
Perfect. Do you have a social media?
unidentified
Can people follow you? They can follow Curtis, you know, at Curtis Ellis.
I just want to read you one thing.
Representative Jim Banks on the House Select Committee on China this week said,"...we have to treat the CCP as the enemy, the biggest threat to America and the American way of life.
We're looking for strategies to decouple our economy from China and hold China accountable." Well, look no further, Representative Banks.
It's all in the book. You know, everything that Curtis said is right in people in this book.
People are saying right now.
Everyone is saying right now.
And, you know, there's a chapter in it.
Hold China accountable.
Defund China. So how do we hold Congress accountable is the question.
And are they going to do this?
steve bannon
Well, they got to. That's what we got to.
Maxine, Albert, thank you very much.
Curtis Ellis, a legend, one of the giants in our movement.
This book is incredible, and it comes up with practical solutions.
So, Maxine, thank you for joining us here in the war room.
Thank you. Curtis Ellis always fought for the working men and women in this country.
Always fought for them. Understood the existential threat was the...
Was the Chinese Communist Party backed and in business with our elites?
Do we have, before bringing Ben Harnwell, do we have the Kamala Harris?
Kate, let me tell you about what's happening here in Ukraine.
Of course, over at the orgy in Munich, and that is the arms merchants all get together once a year for the Munich Security Conference.
So yesterday's Financial Times of London has got this thing over here.
Milley expects negotiated end to the deal.
And then the whole article is about how Milley says the Ukrainians can't win on the battlefield.
And when I say win, you've got to remember for the Ukrainians...
Here's what the situation is.
They have three things.
Number one, they want to remove Russia from all their territory, right?
From all their territory. That means eastern Ukraine and the Crimea, number one.
Number two, they want full reparations.
And we know right now it's, I don't know, going to take a trillion dollars to rebuild Ukraine.
So they want total reparations.
And then three... They want the Russians charged with war crimes.
And so Kamala Harris today, speaking for your nation, and remember, when we defeated the Germans, the Nazis, and we defeated the imperial military staff in Japan, the Empire of Japan, we had trials afterwards.
We went and got evidence afterwards and never started talking about war crimes trials until after they're beaten.
The reason is if you tell guys they're going to be up for war crimes trials, I think they kind of fight to the end because they sit there and go, well, what's my upside?
If we have some sort of negotiation, they're going to try to – if I stop fighting, they're going to try to accuse me of war crimes.
So can we play Kamala Harris?
Do we have that? Let's play Kamala Harris in Munich today speaking for you, the American people.
unidentified
I'm grateful to everyone who gives the sling to Ukrainian David, thanks to which, thanks to which Russian Goliath has already started to lose his ground.
Thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you very much.
kamala harris
And there is no doubt, these are crimes against humanity.
APPLAUSE The United States has formally determined that Russia has committed crimes against humanity.
And I say, To all those who have perpetrated these crimes and to their superiors who are complicit in these crimes, you will be held to account.
In the face of these indisputable facts, to all of us here in Munich, Let us renew our commitment to accountability.
Let us renew our commitment to the rule of law.
steve bannon
Okay, remember, I don't think we said the Nazis were going to try them for war crimes before we won.
I don't think we did it to the...
Remember, they had a trial in Tokyo.
We hung a bunch of the Japanese Imperial staff.
Not enough, but some.
The Nuremberg trials also.
Guys who didn't kill themselves.
Some were executed.
Probably not enough. But that was all after the fact.
Here, Kamala just stood right up and said, hey, we have irrefutable proof, the United States, that these folks are war criminals.
It's going to be quite tough to get to a negotiation.
I think Milley ought to phone in to Kamala and maybe get on the same page, you would think, the vice president and the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Just throw it out there. Maybe think about it.
kamala harris
Host Stephen K. Bann And there is no doubt these are crimes against humanity.
unidentified
Thank you.
kamala harris
The United States has formally determined that Russia has committed crimes against humanity.
And I say to all those who have perpetrated these crimes, and to their superiors who are complicit in these crimes, you will be held To account.
In the face of these...
steve bannon
Right there, the Vice President Kamala Harris is saying the United States formally is determined...
I'd like to see, you know, I'd like to see, here's what I'd like to see, the timeline about the Chinese spy balloon and why Admiral Kirby said we almost, you know, dang near got Tony Blinken off.
I'd like to know the cover-up on that and the timeline, the discussions, when you really knew it, when it left Henan as CBS News reports.
I'd like to know that. Okay?
I'd like to know everything about East Palestine, Ohio.
You know, why the EPA director made the decision.
What was the math? I don't believe.
I think you're lying about the shards, right?
I got to see the math on that.
I'm not buying that for the control release.
I'd also like to know about the control burn.
I don't believe. I don't know until I see the math.
So can you just put those for those decisions already put that forward.
If you formally determined Hey, okay, maybe.
Can we see that?
And how do you formally determine?
Isn't there some process?
I mean, wasn't this at the end of World War II? I keep saying World War II was not the good war.
That's the way it's kind of positioned for the great generation.
And their courage and valor and heroism is unparalleled in American history.
But World War II ended up, like many wars, to be a war of annihilation.
War of annihilation.
On both sides. War of annihilation.
Because these things tend to head in that direction.
As they get more brutal and people's backs get up and they see the agony and they see loved ones dead and they see destruction and mass destruction.
They want to get revenge.
This is the way we got to do it.
We have to annihilate.
It was after the war.
It was after the war when people went out and saw what happened in Germany and saw what happened in also the bloodlands.
Right? Outside of Germany.
And saw what happened with the Imperial General Staff in mainland China, what they had done in China and Manchuria, and also in other islands.
Right? That they were prosecuted.
And people were held accountable.
And many died.
And quite frankly, having read all the transcripts of the trials, I don't think enough of them died.
I think more of them should have been put to death.
Okay? But here, we formally determined.
And we're in the middle of it. So Harnwell, here's what you're in media.
We got other stuff to go to, and we're going to have to get it onto Monday.
But I got Milley, giving a long interview, expects a negotiated deal.
Negotiated end. Which is the same deal.
I got the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
It's the same deal, brother, that the Israeli Prime Minister at the time, Bennett, had on the table when this thing started a year ago.
Roughly 300,000 casualties ago and a trillion dollars worth of the destruction of Ukraine.
300,000 casualties, roughly 100,000 Ukrainian troops, 200,000, actually more, 100,000 Ukrainian, a couple of hundred thousand Russians.
People are saying various, you know, analysis and 40,000, 50,000 Ukrainian civilians.
So 300,000, 350,000.
Who knows? Hard to count.
But a lot. A lot of agony.
He's saying that, and Zelensky's still sitting there going, here's our condition, and you must fund this unlimited.
You must fund this.
We must remove all Russians from the soil of Ukraine.
That's the eastern provinces and Crimea, number one.
Number two, they must pay reparations to rebuild the entire country, as is or better.
And number three, they have to be charged with war crimes.
So, Harnwell, tell me, is Europe going to have, is Europe got a belly for that fight?
I'd like to know because Europe, it's a European fight on the Eurasian landmass.
The EU's been driving this.
NATO's been driving this. Let's face it.
NATO's a protectorate of the United States of America.
It's not an ally. Let me say something else.
This should not be misconstrued.
But outside the English who were fighting for liberty and freedom and also for their empire, And by the way, the English working people, because the royal family wanted to cut a deal with Hitler, right?
They wanted to cut a deal with Hitler to save the empire.
But the English working, the Midlands that supported Churchill, that's why Churchill came to power.
They didn't want Churchill. They wanted Lord Halifax.
They didn't want Churchill. Churchill was the last thing.
They thought he was a warmonger. His thing was, hey, we're going to take the Nazis and we're going to destroy them.
That was working class people in the Midlands had his back.
And some of those were actually, you know, very pro-Soviet because some element of that were communist and socialist.
And they had Churchill's back to conduct the war.
You know, de Gaulle had, what, a couple of divisions, right?
It was more symbolic than anything else, President de Gaulle of France.
And you had the French Resistance.
That was incredibly brave.
If you read the history of the French Resistance, it's incredible what they did and the heroism they did and the sacrifice they had.
But outside of that, the French army collapsed in, what, six weeks because of all the casualties in World War I, the rest of Europe?
No offense, but NATO, as far as fighting the Nazis in World War II, they didn't really do a lot of fighting, did a lot of surrendering.
America with the Brits did a lot of fighting in Western Europe, and yes, the French and some others.
It's the Russian people that took the blunt of the Wehrmacht.
And the Chinese people that took the brunt of the Imperial Japanese Army, Lao-Beijing and the Russian serfs and peasants, essentially, took the brunt of it.
Those were our allies.
And the fact that we lost under a million men, the fact that we lost under a million men in the island campaign, in the Pacific War, the submarine war, the 8th Air Corps over Germany, the precision daylight bombing, We would have lost five times that many if it had not been for the casualties taken by the Chinese people and the Russian people.
Just remember that. Those were our allies.
Europe kind of became a protectorate.
And they quite frankly drafted off it for the whole Cold War.
Right now the British, the head of the Tories equivalent of the Armed Services Committee said the other day to the Financial Times, the entire British military could fight for five days in a war to be finished.
That's him, not me. Five days.
But they did fast up the fact they could put one combat division up.
One. Combat division.
One. Rest of Europe, I don't know.
A couple? Three?
I don't know. It's not an alliance.
It's just not. It's a protectorate.
Donald Trump knew this. They've got to step up to the plate.
So Harnwell, I'm confused now.
If the Russians have done these war crimes, I guess you fight to the bitter end, and I guess the bitter end is that the Russian army's got to collapse and Moscow's got to fall.
Am I confused?
Because now we formally have determined, and that's not the war room saying that.
That's not Gateway Pundit or Breitbart.
Or, you know, Revolver.News, that's Kamala Harris, the Vice President of the United States, the second in line here to be Commander-in-Chief.
She's there at the Munich arms orgy saying that we formally determined, we formally determined, Ben Harnwell, going to make this peace talk kind of, Millie ought to read her speech because I think it makes it quite tough.
How do you get to a negotiated end with war criminals, sir?
ben harnwell
Well, I suppose we did it, and it depends what the negotiation is and what the conditions will be.
I think General Milley here is a bit like a broken clock in that he's going to be right inevitably twice at some point during the day.
Obviously, General Milley isn't right twice a day, but you get the point.
It will end. I mean, it's either going to end in a nuclear Armageddon or it will end with a negotiated peace of one degree or another.
Who's going to give up most will depend on what condition the loser will be by that time that comes round.
But that's for Kamala Harris.
Formally determined isn't a legal term.
And I wouldn't pay much attention to what she's saying.
She's clearly just... It's not even grandstanding.
steve bannon
She's auditioning. Well, I tell you who's paying attention to...
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
Whoa, stop. I tell you who's paying attention to it.
If you're in Moscow, I'd pay attention to it.
If I'm one of the Russians down on the battlefield, I'd pay attention to it.
And I'm not saying they have not committed war crimes.
I'm not saying that at all.
But if you're sitting there and listening that the United States has formally determined that you've committed war crimes and we're going to hold you accountable.
ben harnwell
Why is that? It's meaningless.
It's meaningless because the court with jurisdiction on war crimes is the International Criminal Court.
Neither the United States nor Russia are members of it.
They are signatories to this court.
So the court doesn't have jurisdiction over...
China, by the way, just to insert that, is also not a member.
So what she's doing, I mean, it's not even virtue signaling attitude.
It's theater. It's pantomime.
I would suggest She is simply auditioning.
She might as well just send off her CV. She's auditioning for 2024 because she thinks this is what a world leader looks like.
Because, you know, if she was serious, let's see the United States and Russia and China, and for that matter, Ukraine.
Right? Let's see them all join the International Criminal Court, put themselves under the court's authorities, and then start digging and going through the archives.
Because surely, if Russia is guilty of war crimes, then President Zelensky is as well, because he spent seven years bombing the ethnic Russians in the Donbass.
steve bannon
Oh, we don't want to mention that.
Ben, hang on. I got you and Joe Allen.
Hang on. I want to bring on somebody very special because I want to get this word out.
I want to have a great turnout.
Kathy Connor from the GOP in Oklahoma.
Kathy, we're going to do a very special event next week.
Can you tell people what's the event, what's going to happen, and there's still tickets available.
unidentified
Where do they go? Yes, Steve, we are having a very special event, and the most fabulous part of that is that we have a fabulous Firebrand grassroots speaker coming to Oklahoma.
Our event is the Lincoln Reagan Gala Dinner.
It's on February 25th, next Saturday at 6 o'clock.
It's at what we call the Cowboy Hall of Fame, now the National Cowboy and Western Heritage Museum.
It's a fabulous venue, steeped in a lot of Oklahoma values.
So the venue itself is worth coming for.
But, you know, our goal this year is to fund precincts.
And the very person that got me involved in Precinct was you about three years ago.
So we are very excited.
steve bannon
We're really pumped up.
We've got the website up and we're going to push it out all day today and through the week and obviously the week.
Where do people go to get tickets?
If they're in the greater Oklahoma area, it's in Oklahoma City.
Where do they actually go to get tickets and find out more about it, Kathy?
unidentified
Okay, the tickets are online, www.OKCOGOP, Oklahoma County GOP. So that is www.OKCOGOP.com.
You can sponsor a table, you get a VIP ticket.
steve bannon
Perfect. And it's 6 p.m.
next Saturday night, correct?
Correct. Well, I guarantee, folks, I will bring the heat.
Let's say that. It'll be well worth attending.
I look forward to meeting everybody there as we normally do.
Kathy, thank you so much.
We're going to be back on Monday.
I know you're at an event right now, but thank you for pulling yourself away to do this, and we'll push this hard.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve. We're real excited.
steve bannon
Same here. Thank you very much.
Kathy Connor from the GOP in Oklahoma.
I'm giving a speech, a Reagan-Lincoln or Lincoln-Reagan dinner speech.
Love giving speeches about all that.
Okay, short commercial break.
We got a lot to get through, but we're going to get through it all next in The War Room.
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Okay. Ben Harnwell.
Because this vote in Ukraine is going to be huge in the United States to cut this thing off of the money and let Europe, if Europe wants to do it, they can do it.
But this thing's going, it's going to take hundreds of billions of billions of dollars just to continue to fight this war.
You're going to lose millions of people if it continues down this path because both sides are dug in now and they just want to pound it out.
Ben, your closing thoughts, how can people get to you over the weekend?
We're going to have you back Monday. But give us your perspective from Rome.
ben harnwell
Yeah, I see a chasm opening up, Steve, between our political leadership and the taxpaying base across the West.
The political leadership is doubling down.
That's literally the words that Rishi Sunak used when he spoke in Munich after.
Kamala Harris today, he urged leaders to double down in their commitment to Ukraine.
So that's what they're doing, and as you said, they're digging in and doubling down, whereas peoples are moving further and further away from that because they're paying for it.
They're the ones paying for it, and they want that negotiated peace.
But the negotiated peace won't happen until, effectively, the United States tells Zelensky that He's had enough resources and he needs to get himself to the negotiating table to discuss peace with Putin.
steve bannon
By the way, Bennett, the Israeli Prime Minister had him at the table.
He said Zelensky and Putin would have taken a deal.
We fought for a year, destroyed the country, and killed hundreds of thousands of people.
It's immoral now what we're doing.
It's immoral. Because you're going to get to the same place.
You're going to get to the same place.
And now this is just all the arms manufacturers.
That's really Munich. Who's underwriting that thing?
It's all the arms manufacturers.
Ben, how do people get to you over the weekend?
You're going to be back in the lineup on Monday morning.
ben harnwell
How do people get to you? You're absolutely right, Steve.
That's why our political leadership is comprised of Sociopaths, right?
These people are sociopaths.
So when you say it's immoral, they won't care.
Folks, if they want to catch up with my thought and my updates, it's on Getter, the best app, the marketplace of ideas, at Parnwell, which is my surname.
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steve bannon
That's the best phrase ever.
Ben Harnwell. Honored to have you on here, brother.
Head of Europe. Our international editor.
Actually does the Chinese too.
Let's go ahead and play. I got the Joe Allen.
Let's play the cold open and Joe's going to come in.
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Is this depressing?
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In fact, techniques are already known for doing this in a rather limited way at the present.
Alternatively, we may prefer to totally erase past unpleasant memories.
steve bannon
We only got a minute for you, Joe.
I want people to go to your writing all over the weekend.
unidentified
What did we just see? Arthur C. Clarke, Steve.
joe allen
That was a 1964 World's Fair Very, I think, prescient in some ways and in other ways.
He made a tremendous impact with his science fiction work, and a lot of what we now call transhumanism began in the imaginative worlds of science fiction, especially men like Arthur C. Clarke.
Of course, he was the creator of the famous HAL 9000 in 2001 A Space Odyssey.
I think that, you know, I'm going over a lot of his old novels now.
You can see how he shaped what we now call technocracy and transhumanism.
steve bannon
When you think about the Ashbury University revival, go read Childhood's End.
Joe, how do people get to you, brother?
joe allen
You can find me at jobot.xyz.
You can find me at warroom.org under the Transhumanism tab.
Get her in Twitter, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z. Thank you very much, Steve.
Have a good weekend. You know, I just thought...
steve bannon
Noah Benjamin's out there. I think we're going to send Joe Allen.
Joe Allen and Grace Chung.
That's our next two out to Ashbury to the revival.
Okay, we're going to end with the revival.
We're fighting for something far deeper than just the stuff we deal with every day.
There's a spiritual war going on, and guess what?
We're on the winning side.
We're going to leave you with the Ashbury revival.
We'll be up on Getter all weekend, and we'll see you back here at 10 a.m.
and Monday morning in the war room.
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