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Feb. 10, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2510: Stopping The Flood Of Money To Ukraine; Impeaching Mayorkas
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andy biggs
05:35
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boris epshteyn
06:04
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peter navarro
06:52
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steve bannon
18:31
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michael seifert
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jake tapper
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joe biden
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michael walz
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
unidentified
So I can confirm that the Department of Defense was tracking a high-altitude object over Alaska airspace in the last 24 hours.
The object was flying at an altitude of 40,000 feet and posed a reasonable threat to the safety of civilian flight.
Out of an abundance of caution and at the recommendation of the Pentagon, President Biden ordered the military to down the object.
And they did, and it came inside our territorial waters.
Those waters right now are frozen, but inside territorial airspace and over territorial waters.
Fighter aircraft assigned to U.S. Northern Command took down the object within the last hour.
My question is, if it had remained secret and had not become a spectacle and arguably an embarrassment to the White House, would you have shot it down or allowed it to continue on its way?
You're asking me to speculate?
So Mike, I'll kind of just push back a little bit at the assertion there.
So first of all, again, what made this balloon different was the length and duration that it was over the continental United States.
Look, we track activities all over the globe on a daily basis.
Some of which will remain classified because, again, we don't want to reveal sources and methods.
In this particular case, I can tell you that there were efforts underway to make that public.
Montana journalists reporting notwithstanding.
All that to say, look, there are going to be times when there's activities happening that we're monitoring that we're not going to go public, especially if it doesn't present a particular or pose a significant threat to the American public.
But again, as we monitored that balloon, there was an effort underway to ensure that folks understood what this was, especially given how visible it was.
And I'll just stop there.
Thank you. You think that President Biden made this call because of political pressure.
michael walz
Am I reading you right? Well, that's what it seems like, Jake, to be candid.
I'm trying to understand why this much smaller, by their own admission, much less capable balloon with a much smaller payload was deemed such a threat that the other one wasn't.
And it can't just be the altitude.
And to your point on what our red lines should be, I guarantee you if we put an object over Beijing or over some of their sensitive sites at 40,000 to 60,000 feet for days collecting sensitive intelligence, they would take action.
We need to take reciprocal action and, again, make that clear up front.
unidentified
We know what the facts are as they have been laid out to us from the White House and from the Pentagon.
You've just suggested that you think, based on what you've heard, it is less likely that it is a Chinese spy balloon.
Explain that. Is that because it's much smaller?
Is that because it's flying lower?
Is that because of the direction that it was seen traveling in?
Well, first of all, if it was a follow-on Chinese intelligence collection operation, then it would be either a level of political effrontery by President Xi that is beyond belief, or it would mean the PLA was out of control.
So set that one aside.
And then secondly, it was operating at a lower level.
Courtney picked up in an unusual direction, northeast.
Appeared not steerable.
Was a much smaller object.
Those F-22s The unclassified ceiling of the Air Force says is 50,000 feet.
Many sources say it can get up to 70,000 feet.
So the F-22 has got eyeballs on it at very close range to see what it was.
And they didn't detect a manned object.
They didn't detect hostile intent.
It sounds to me as if we just have to wait until the debris field is picked up in the next 72 hours and analyzed, and that'll tell us pretty much for sure what it was.
steve bannon
It's Friday, 10 February, in the year of our Lord, 2023.
You're in the afternoon and early evening show of The War Room on Friday.
You're headquarters for all information about the Third World War, as we keep telling folks.
A couple of notes, Lula.
Is in the transnational criminal Marxist Lula's in D.C. I think they're going to have a press briefing at like 7.30.
Lula's here. I don't think he's high-fiving on aid to Ukraine.
A little dispute over there, of course.
The government in Moldova fell this afternoon, pro-Western government.
It's a neighbor to Ukraine, fell because of the Ukrainian war.
Disputes, I guess, with the population of the pro-Western government has fallen.
Only been in power 18 months.
Just a little longer than this war is going on.
I want to bring in Congressman Andy Biggs.
Congressman... General McCaffrey, who's no friend of MAGA, no friend of President Trump's, he's stunned that she would have the stones to put another one up just a couple of days.
Do you believe, as a member of Congress and a representative from the great state of Arizona, with so many veterans out there and active duty military personnel, do you think you've gotten the full story?
On the first Chinese spy airship, do you believe that you've been dealt with straight?
You know all the facts of what went on with the first one, sir?
andy biggs
No, not at all. Not at all.
I think that this administration wouldn't have told us anything but for the Montana journalists that took a picture of the balloon and then disseminated it.
And, you know, all we knew, you know, is that they had a big payload.
They were transmitting No, they've not told us enough yet, nor have they said anything really significant or meaningful with regard to this smaller car-sized balloon payload coming over again into our territory.
steve bannon
Does that concern you?
Do you feel as a member of Congress that they have not been straightforward?
And by the way, Xi, in the high command of the Chinese Communist Party, knew it was coming across the Aleutians in Alaska into the lower 48 and that Biden had not told the nation and hadn't done anything about it because he wanted Blinken to go over there and kowtow.
So they knew that was a sign of weakness.
Do you feel there's anything Congress can do to force Biden administration to come to Congress and actually explain what is going on here?
andy biggs
Well, yeah, I think, you know, the key is always going to be leverage with finances.
So we need to do some financial leverage.
We need to use some leverage with with the Oversight Judiciary Committee, maybe even the Foreign Affairs or the House Committee.
They need to bring in these individuals.
If they want to go to a skiff to tell us what actually happened, then let's go to a skiff.
And none of this, you know, the normal BS, because quite frankly, Steve, so many times, and I didn't go to, I did not, I purposely, so I could talk about it, I purposely didn't go to the last one because What so often happens is they give you information that you could read in any newspaper or on any online news aggregator.
So they don't tell us the full story.
They don't tell us the truth. And that's why you see things, you know, and I really believe this.
They're spying on our own people.
They're spying on members of Congress.
They're spying on local political parties, we're finding out today.
And so you throw this in there and you say, Our government just doesn't tell us the truth and they don't understand that the legislature, the Congress, is supposed to be their overseers and this is supposed to be a civilian government that military answers to and not the civilian government answering to the military.
steve bannon
The situation in Ukraine today, Moldova government fell.
You had increased military operations.
It turns out it looks like Europe has turned down Zelensky for the F-16s.
Matt Gaetz put in a proposal yesterday, a resolution yesterday, about no more money to Ukraine, and particularly trying to force Biden to come to the House with the war powers.
resolution to implement the War Powers Act.
Do you agree with that?
What is your thoughts on the Ukraine situation and the non-transparency of the Biden regime?
andy biggs
Well, I'm one of the original co-sponsors of Matt's bill because we've never had this administration come and actually make a legitimate case for national security interests of the United States of America in Ukraine.
They will say things like, oh, well, you know, we want to protect another democracy, etc.
They've not said what the national security interest is for the United States of America.
And Europe is not so much interested in helping with the defense.
And we've spent $125 billion to defend their borders.
And so that's what this administration says.
Well, we have to defend their sovereign borders.
They won't even defend our sovereign border, but somehow we've got to defend Ukraine's sovereign border.
And that border was contested far more heavily than our own is.
The difference is our border is now controlled by a criminal cartel from Mexico, and we're doing nothing about it in this administration.
My opinion, and I've been where Matt is on this all along, is that we should not be in Ukraine because it doesn't have a national security interest.
And if you do think so, then you have an obligation to come to the United States Congress under the Constitution and tell us what that is, what that interest is, and take it to a full vote of the Congress.
Because, quite frankly, we're still operating under authorization to use military force, AUMFs, that are decades and decades old, including the Korean War, for Pete's sake.
steve bannon
Do you believe you're going to get enough support from maybe some other members who are a little more neoconish to actually say, look, even if you don't agree with our thoughts on our strategy on Ukraine, we've got to force Biden to come and give the American people an actual plan with strategy, objectives, cost, all of that. Do you think you'll garner enough support from other Republicans to make this thing happen?
andy biggs
You want false optimism or honesty?
You know, honesty, Steve, I don't think so.
I think that we have honesty every time.
I don't think some of our war hawks want to bring the president in.
The president has said, and some of our friends even in our own party have said, as long as it takes, as much as it takes.
And I just don't understand that philosophy.
But it is, as you said, they cannot tell you what victory looks like.
They cannot tell you what the exit strategy looks like.
And I see it's being bogged down there for a long time.
Don't forget, this is, quite frankly, a proxy war with Russia between Joe Biden and the Russians.
steve bannon
By the way, so the border we care about is the southern border, and particularly in Arizona, Texas, California, New Mexico.
It's a big development today.
First off, you know, the Bidens came out just like Benzman said and said, hey, we've had a great month since we changed the law.
Now they've got the pardons down in Mexico.
But a big announcement today from DHS. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Did Mayorkas' DHS retain an outside counsel because of the impeachment move on him, sir?
andy biggs
That's what's been reported.
And their claim is that they have nobody on staff that's prepared to provide advice on how to deal with the ins and outs of an impeachment inquiry.
And that's really where we're headed in the House is an impeachment inquiry.
And it's tacitly started with The judiciary and oversight committees going forward with these kind of hearings dealing with border security and Mayorkas' failure to not just secure the border, but deliberately emasculating our national boundary.
And so we did that.
We've had an offer. An off-campus forum this week, so a lot's going on, and so they reportedly hired somebody to give them advice on how to deal with the potential impeachment process.
steve bannon
That is a huge victory for you, is it not, sir?
I mean, we're only a week into this, and they hire high-powered.
Trust me, they've got plenty of great lawyers over.
We're paying for tons of great lawyers, not just at DHS but throughout the government.
They hired a high-powered outside law firm because they know Andy Biggs is coming for them.
Let's be blunt. Is that the way you read it?
andy biggs
Yeah, I think I read it that way.
I think I read it in the way that they say it's McCarthy, Biggs, Jordan, Gates, Chip Roy, everybody coming after them.
And you know what it says to me is they know that there is smoke, that there is fire to the smoke.
It is real. With the smoke.
What he has done is, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a real fire there.
steve bannon
Congressman, hang on one second.
Hang on one second.
We're taking a short commercial break.
Congressman Andy Biggs on the impeachment of Mayorkas.
It's getting real. They're lawyering up next in the war room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Congressman Biggs, he had to bounce.
But the law firm, Peter, come in here, because you did so much as one of President Trump's right-hand men on the border.
The law firm is Debovois Plimpton.
It's one of the white shoe of the white shoe law firms.
Okay. Navarra, you worked in the government.
They have a few lawyers.
DOJ's got a couple of three.
White House got a couple of three.
They got a couple, one or two over at DHS. DHS has 200,000 people work there, I think.
They have a few lawyers, don't they?
They know it's serious when they're hiring a big-time outside white-shoe law firm and they're forced to announce it in a press release.
They're also sending a shot across Biggs and McCarthy and Jordan's Bow.
Hey, come, get some, get some, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tell us how the city works.
peter navarro
Well, we know how the DOJ is the largest law firm in the world.
Think about that. The Department of Justice of the United States is the biggest law firm in the world.
But I can see how they're a little undermanned right now.
Because virtually the whole organization is trying to put Trump people in jail, including the boss.
This is a big deal in my judgment because the DHS has been caught with its hand in the corruption jar.
It has willfully and in a conspiratorial manner flaunted the constitution and laws of this land.
The emails, the memos, the phone records, those are the kinds of things that are going to demonstrate that the official policy of the Joe Biden administration was to open the border, flunk all our laws.
And I always get back to what you and I always talk about.
There's no question right now, Steve, that the official...
The immigration policy of the Joe Biden administration is also their economic policy to control the wages of black, blue-collar, and brown Americans, or working-class Americans.
I mean, to me, this is the biggest disgusting thing.
If you go to Joe Biden's State of the Union, where he's trying to talk about doing things for America and build it here and this, that, and the other thing...
If you import the labor force from out there and you're building it in America, you still got something going on that's wrong.
steve bannon
Okay. Hang on for a second.
Okay. So if we can get the Hill story up and if Mo and Grace can put it all in different chats of peace.
So the Hill announced today, Mayorkas has retained an outside powerhouse white shoe law firm to handle everything regarding impeachment.
They know it's real.
Okay. They know that between judiciary oversight, DHS, those panels are going to do the investigations on how they broke the law.
Benson also told you for the last two months.
peter navarro
Conspiratorially broke the law, Steve.
They conspiratorially broke the law.
They intentionally broke the law.
They didn't like break it by mistake.
It's like, no, there's the law.
How can we get around it?
And, you know, we'll see the receipts.
unidentified
If they don't bury it or burn it...
steve bannon
Axios, literally Todd Benson was on here three weeks ago, four weeks ago, and said he...
Axios has a story headline, you know, Migration Drops Dramatically.
Right, because of Biden's policies.
And at the 10th paragraph down, they talk about the parole, humanitarian parole.
All they're doing is getting you all the EBT cards.
They're getting your work permits.
They're getting everything down in Mexico and flying you into the internal...
It's increasing the invasion of our country.
unidentified
And as Navarro picked out the other day, they've already registered...
steve bannon
No, that's it.
peter navarro
If you fly over, that's not a border crossing, right?
unidentified
You've got to walk over the Rio Grande Valley in order for that to be an official border crossing.
peter navarro
I mean, it's funny, but this is so tragic, Steve.
Two million people.
I mean, the million people that the Census Bureau counted in the workforce now is like an old number.
There's going to be another million males, uneducated, illegal immigrants coming in here, taking the jobs of black, brown, and blue-collar Americans.
And those people at DHS, yeah, they're, you know...
They got issues.
The DOJ lawyers aren't going to bail them out.
They're going for the white shoe guys.
Bill Barr will probably do this stuff pro bono.
That's the kind of guy Bill Barr is.
steve bannon
Man, we get Navarro back for one day.
Is he on Skype?
He's all jacked up. You got me hot.
You got me hot, man.
peter navarro
It's what happens when you put me in the cage for 15 minutes in the A block when I was supposed to be there.
unidentified
But it's fine. I love Andy Biggs, you know, but I get ramped up, baby.
steve bannon
Give me a flex. Do a flex.
Okay. You called it the other day by looking at the Census Bureau.
There's already a million in the workforce.
And this is how they've been saying they're going to bring down inflation because African-Americans, Hispanic-Americans, low-skilled workers are making too much money.
Making too much money, this is how they're going to do it.
peter navarro
Yeah, and Jay Powell, when he was giving his speech, he said the same damn thing.
He said immigration was going to solve our wage inflation problem.
He forgot to put the word illegal in front of it because immigration, legal immigration, is like a puddle compared to the ocean of illegal immigration.
So these people... They are so checked out of Main Street, blue-collar MAGA America.
And the fact that that's the Democratic Party and Scranton Joe basically pushing these policies, it's disgusting.
steve bannon
Okay, talk about Scranton Joe.
I want to see. They know what sells.
They know what sells.
They take this right from President Trump in Navarro.
Let's go ahead and play. Let's play the State of the Union.
joe biden
I want you to hear this. To restore the soul of this nation, to rebuild the backbone of America, America's middle class, and to unite the country.
We've been sent here to finish the job, in my view.
For decades, the middle class has been hollowed out in not one administration, but for a long time.
Too many good-paying manufacturing jobs move overseas.
Factories close down.
Once-thriving cities and towns that many of you represent became shadows of what they used to be.
Along the way, something else we lost.
Pride. Our sense of self-worth.
I ran for president to fundamentally change things, to make sure our economy works for everyone, so we can all feel that pride in what we do.
To build an economy from the bottom up and the middle out, not from the top down.
Because when the middle class does well, the poor have a ladder up, and the wealthy still do very well.
We all do well.
steve bannon
Let me hear it. Peter?
peter navarro
Oh, Bannon, Bannon.
Okay, he's giving Donald Trump's 2016 stump speech and the cognitive dissonance here.
I mean, the first thing Biden did was erase half the executive orders I did on things like buy American, hire American.
You can't... Take this guy seriously, except for the fact you have to, because this stuff's resonating with the American people.
You know, when I saw that SOB, I'm going to talk about this in the documentary podcast I'm doing next week.
When I saw that SOB with that blood-red background going after MAGA as terrorists and extremists, it was like a laugh-out-loud moment.
Nobody's going to believe that.
Well, people did believe that.
And people are going to believe he is providing us, like, American jobs when, in fact, illegal aliens are coming over to take him.
So a lot wrong here, Steve.
steve bannon
By the way, I think not just the stump speech.
He lifted part of the inauguration address of President Trump.
He talked about what has to happen for this country.
Now, he's all talk because he comes from Delaware, the corporate center.
He's the corporate president, not Joe from Scranton.
But he did say something that's something that you and I have talked about a lot.
One is the stock buybacks, right?
The financial engineer is totally unacceptable, the way they juice up the stock so they get the big bonuses.
The other was the billionaires tax.
Now, I call it not billionaires because people should be billionaires.
We want people to aspire to wealth and creating wealth.
But the oligarchs.
So let's not call it the billionaires, but the oligarchs tax and the stock buybacks.
Give me your thoughts on that. Yeah, yeah.
peter navarro
Look, let's go in our time machine, Steve.
Back to the White House, early 2017, the beginning, the dawn of the Trump administration.
We're debating in the Oval Office what the tax bill should look like.
Trump himself is talking about attacks on the oligarchs, and you and I were the only two people in the room at the time who thought that was a good idea, both politically and from an equity standpoint.
Politically, this was a beautiful way to cut the legs out from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren from accusing us of doing tax cuts for the wealthy.
You do the tax cuts for the middle class like we planned, and then you put on top of that a tax increase for the oligarchs.
Boom! Politics!
That's beautiful!
And from an equity standpoint, hey, nothing wrong with that.
But, of course, what happened was Steve Mnuchin, the boil on the butt of humanity in the Trump administration, together with Lion Gary Cohn from Goldman Sachs, shot it down, talked the boss out of it.
And now what Biden's going to try to do...
In 2024, is outflank, right?
Outflank us. And here's what I'm concerned about, Steve.
Mitch McConnell, basically, is going to get outflanked just writ large.
He's going to oppose that billionaire's tax, right?
McCarthy should embrace it.
He should embrace that oligarch's tax and not let Biden outflank him.
I don't think that's going to happen.
We'll see. But my advice, Kevin, would be to outflank.
Don't let Biden outflank you, sir.
steve bannon
By the way, today in Axios, I said, talked about Biden, that they're going to out.
They're going to. They're so nervous about our balanced budget that, quote unquote, they're going to show what a deficit cutter he is.
They're going to put that out, I think, in early March.
Their budget is going to be.
peter navarro
We'll do that next week, Steve, because that's all a mirage.
All that deficit reduction crap.
Things are out of control.
We've got to hold firm on that.
But we know the Biden playbook.
He's going to accuse the Republicans of cutting Medicare and Social Security.
Not on the table.
He's going to do this oligarch's tax to make it sound like he's the champion of the working classes.
And Kevin can't let him get outflanked on that.
And we've just got to go.
So, hey, before you ask, Real P Navarro on Twitter, Getter, and Peter Navarro on True Social, go to the podcast, Taking Back Trump's America.
You can access it through my social media.
It's going to be great next week.
We're going to debut it here on The War Room.
steve bannon
Launch next week.
Okay, thanks. Boris, next.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, another jam-packed Newsday.
So much going on.
One thing I want to make sure that everybody understands is that we've changed the Overton window on this issue of the balanced budget, the deficit.
Axios has a huge story up this morning about how Biden is going to try to position.
One of the things they're going to use is the billionaire's tax to try to jam us, right?
But that could be deficit reduction.
But They are going to have cuts, and these cuts are all going to be phony, but they're going to try to present that, hey, they're having deficit reduction.
Now, people have called them out, and it's not working when you talk about this ridiculousness of they're the biggest deficit cutters ever because they're coming off the pandemic.
And actually, the Axios story shows that nobody's believing that part of it.
When you have Russ vote, you have all the people we bring in here, Richard Stern, Heritage, Russ vote over at the Center for Renewing America.
All these people are talking balanced budgets.
That's now in the lexicon.
That is now something how we've changed the Overton window, and that is going to be part of the debt ceiling debate.
I want everybody to remember that what Russ is talking about, the strategy, is much harder core that's being kicked around now.
The budget process itself, which kind of is not meaningful.
What's meaningful is the appropriations process, how the money and where it actually gets spent.
In this appropriations process, what Russ is arguing for is we pass all those in regular order.
Once we do that and we actually lock in with the deficit, because that's where you can have significant cuts This year, including on the defense budget, the welfare programs, parts of Medicaid, all of it, that then you negotiate the debt ceiling.
So just stay tuned. But I can tell you already see the shifting media landscape of all this.
Okay, a lot going on.
We got Boris here. Boris, first of all, we had Andy Biggs to start and there's another object has been now shot down over Alaska, right?
American airspace sovereignty over Alaska.
Biggs, they haven't even really briefed the house.
I'm not sure they briefed a gang of eight, but they haven't really briefed anybody about the first one, about why it was, you know, why they come ashore or come over the air of Alaska in our sovereign airspace on the 28th and nothing was done about it.
They don't have any answers on that.
What's your assessment of this?
And give me a perspective of how President Trump would have handled this.
boris epshteyn
Steve, honor be with you.
Honor be with the posse.
My assessment on this is it's a total disaster for Beijing Biden, Hunter Biden, and the crime family.
And this comes during the week that the Oversight Committee had that robust hearing into the Hunter Biden laptop from hell.
The Committee on Repentization had their robust hearing.
And hey, they better believe There's hearings coming, and by the way, in the Senate as well, as you know, John Testros called for a hearing, a Democrat, because the first balloon was discovered over at Montana.
The issue here for Biden is, what are they hiding?
Why are they hiding it? And when did they know about the original balloon from last week, and this balloon as well?
They just said that they recovered the debris, the payload, from the balloon that was shot down over the Atlantic Ocean after crossing the continental United States, and it is So what does that mean?
There's a payload the size of a school bus inside a balloon.
They're uncovering it, and they didn't brief the American people.
They didn't brief Congress.
They tried to keep this from the Department of Defense and the Secretary of Defense.
This is a disaster.
And it all lines up exactly with the fact that the Bidens have been doing corrupt business with China, with the Chinese Communist Party for decades, have been selling out the American people, and we are going to get to the bottom of it, especially with the MAGA leaders in Congress.
As far as President Trump, what he would have done, he wouldn't have had to do anything because China respected his strength enough To have not played these games with America when he was president.
The same way that Russia didn't invade anybody when President Trump was in the Oval Office, while they did so under George W. Bush, did so under Barack Obama, and of course are doing so under hopeless Joe Biden.
steve bannon
You know, you got to the buried lead.
We had a cold open.
I had General McCaffrey, who's no fan of President Trump's.
And McCaffrey was saying what shocked him is the arrogance of Xi to do this so quickly after the last one, given the turmoil it caused in the United States.
What do you think Xi's mindset is in doing this, Boris?
boris epshteyn
His mindset is that he completely disrespects hopeless Joe Biden.
That's what it is. He disrespects Democrats.
He knows that they're either in the pocket of the Chinese Communist Party or not able to do anything against them.
That is what is going on.
That is the issue here.
The Chinese are absolutely We talked about how decrepit Biden is, how hopeless he is, how sad him and his administration are, but it's not funny.
It's not a joke. This is the exact result.
I wrote this in an op-ed in Newsweek back in March of 2021 that Biden's feebleness, Biden's hopelessness, his The absolute inability to conduct the duties of the office is a real danger to America and to our armed forces.
And now we're seeing it, first and foremost, right in front of our eyes.
We had this balloon go through barely a week ago, now a second one.
What does that mean? Do the Chinese feel absolutely empowered?
You better believe it. And it is all the fault of Joe Biden and the Democrats.
And as we always say, elections have consequences.
Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
And this is part of that catastrophe.
steve bannon
The Daily Telegraph today has a major column from Colonel Richard Kemp, who's a highly respected analyst in English politics and particularly about defense strategy.
He's saying that there are going to be big losses and that the United Kingdom and particularly the Tory party better get ready to brace people for major losses.
Coming in a winter offensive by the Russians.
They've regrouped, retooled, retrained, and they're coming in hot.
The Financial Times in this afternoon, Boris, an article I sent you came forward, and the Tory head of the House of Commons Defense Committee, because the Tories run Commons, he says that the British Army, The British Army could last five days in combat.
Let me repeat that for our American audience.
The British Army could last five days in combat, given how much they've gutted it over the last 10 or 20 years, and particularly the last 13 years under the Tories.
Right before he came on air, Boris, the pro-Western, pro-NATO government in Moldova It's been in 18 months, very pro-NATO, pro-Western.
It's on the border of Ukraine.
And because of just a popular, you know, people are getting very nervous there about the war spreading.
They want to take a different tact.
What is your assessment?
Matt Gaetz, we just had Andy Biggs as a co-sponsor.
Gaetz has put forward a proposal to force Biden to come to the House with a War Powers resolution.
Where do you think we are, sir?
You know that neighborhood pretty well.
boris epshteyn
This is an absolute festering fire surrounded by nuclear reactors.
That is where we are.
The situation in Eastern Europe, specifically in the former Soviet Union, is only going to lead to one thing if it is not settled quickly, as President Trump has called for it to be and said he could It resolved in 24 hours, which President Trump absolutely would, even if it got there, because I think under President Trump this would have never happened.
The Russians would have never invaded Ukraine.
Again, they didn't do so when the President was in the Oval Office because they respected his strength, not because they're trying to be good guys, because they respected his strength.
Where we are now is you're starting to see the dominoes fall.
You're going to have Moldova, which is going to be rudderless and come, of course, under the influence of Russia.
You better believe you're going to realistically see And if anybody thinks that the United States is not deeply involved in that war right now in Eastern Europe, you're kidding yourself.
And it's not just money, it's not just tanks, it's not just munitions, it is our people on the ground as quote-unquote instructors.
Let me remind you, that is exactly, exactly how the Vietnam quagmire started, that is exactly how the Afghanistan disaster started for the former Soviet Union, and what it led to, which was The crash of the former Soviet Union.
And as far as the British Army goes, this is the British Army of World War I and World War II, of Lloyd George and of Winston Churchill.
And now it has been decimated by the liberals.
Do not kid yourself.
The liberals are looking to destroy the great capital of society.
They're looking to unite under one communist, socialist, whatever you call it, far left-wing agenda.
And we've got to fight to prevent it.
And that's why we need President Trump back in office as soon as possible.
steve bannon
As dangerous as Afghanistan and Iraq are, and even places like Vietnam, tell the audience, how dangerous is this neighborhood?
We've never been involved in really this type of combat.
We've stayed away from this on purpose.
How dangerous is this neighborhood as you start to see this whole vortex?
It's getting sucked into a vortex of a massive war.
And this is a part of the world that have had some of the biggest wars in mankind's history for the last 2,000 years, sir.
boris epshteyn
No doubt about it. All you've got to do is the defenestration of Prague, which was a huge facilitator of an over-20-year war in the Middle Ages.
Then I'll have to use two numbers, number one and number two.
World War I and number two all started within a tiny radius of where this war is ongoing right now.
World War I started in former Yugoslavia and Serbia.
World War II started, of course, with Germany invading its neighbors and then fighting against the Fighting against the Western Europe, fighting against the Soviet Union on the Eastern Bloc.
This is an ongoing mess, an ongoing disaster, and it's got to come to an end as soon as possible.
Again, as President Trump, who knows the layout of the world better than anybody, who knows the history better than anybody, has repeatedly said this has to come to an end within 24 hours.
Otherwise, we're risking huge, terrible global consequences.
steve bannon
This afternoon, a press release went out from DHS that said that because they didn't have enough lawyers on staff over there, Boris, with the 212,000 employees, and they didn't have enough in the Justice Department, at the White House, or anywhere else in the government, that Mayorkas has retained an outside white shoe law firm, Debevois and Plimpton, to defend him in an impeachment inquiry.
That's a pretty big bombshell, is it not, sir?
boris epshteyn
It's a huge bond, Sean.
Demba Wars is a top-white shoe law firm, so that means that Mayorkas is definitely worried.
You've got all these outside lawyers now, outside big firms representing the Biden crime family, Mayorkas.
Who's paying for this? It better not be the American people.
We already know that Biden uses outside counsel to conduct effectively government official duties.
Again, who is paying for this?
Taxpayer resources should not go to defend these corrupt politicians.
steve bannon
Boris, what are your coordinates?
How do people get to you, and particularly the morning newsletter?
boris epshteyn
Steve, thanks so much. Honor to be with you.
Honor to be on the show and with the posse.
My information, BorisCP.com's website, hot on BorisCP.com.
Sign up right now. Hot on Getter at BorisCP, on Twitter at BorisCP, hot on Truth Social at Boris, and the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein.
Stay strong, God bless, and Shabbat Shalom.
steve bannon
Boris, thank you very much.
Have a good weekend. See you on Saturday night, Sunday.
I want to pull back the camera just for a second and go back over a couple of things we just talked about.
By the way, after we take a break, Michael Seifert is going to join us from Public SQ as we keep telling people we've got to build an alternative.
Stop giving your money to people that hate you, right?
That's the watchword here at the Worm.
Don't give your money to people that hate you.
But I want to go back through a couple of things that happened, particularly in this Ukraine situation.
As you heard from Andy Biggs, what Gates and these folks have put forward is really, hey, we're cutting a resolution saying no more money for Ukraine, absolutely zero.
And what we need is the Biden administration to follow the Constitution and come to Congress under the War Powers Act and walk people through, make a resolution where they give a in-depth what the strategy is going to be, what the objectives are going to be, all of it.
And we have to force these people to be straight with us.
The Financial Times of London is quoting the Member of Parliament, right?
The Member of Parliament that sits in Commons, that chairs the Defense Committee.
It'd be like chairing the Armed Services Committee here.
He said that the British Army, the British military, could not last for five days in a war.
This, by the way, in NATO is our principal ally, not the French and the Germans.
The French come next. And then the Germans.
But this is our principal ally.
The military could not last five days.
This means you're underwriting everything.
I keep telling you, the British can only put up one combat division.
And we are being sucked in hour by hour into the beginning of a global conflict.
And it's starting in a place that since the founding of this republic, we have avoided any type of military intervention.
That would be the Eurasian landmass by Russia and Eastern Europe in the Balkans.
Okay? Avoided it like the plague.
Just look at Gallipoli.
Look at all the disasters in the Balkans.
Okay? Short commercial break. Michael Seifert, Public SQ, joins us on the other side.
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PublicSQ, I keep telling people we've got to build an alternative economy because you've got to stop giving money to people that hate you.
Michael Seifert's here. Michael, tell us about this service that you've provided that is incredible.
People that have done it are raving about it.
Walk us through what people have to do.
It's all free. What people have to do, what's the logic behind it, and what value add does PublicSQ have?
michael seifert
Well, thanks for having me, Steve.
It's an honor to be here. And I will say that it's been a phenomenal seven months since we initially launched this platform nationwide, July 4th of 2022.
And since then, we've had millions of consumer and business interactions where people are establishing trust with their purchases because we share the same values.
So ultimately, there was a new survey that was just released today.
The Trafalgar Group found that 80 % of Americans are really frustrated and tired of this ultra-political messaging from these woke and progressive corporations in society, and they want new alternatives.
We are tired of these systems that have become corrupted, and we're ready to embrace a parallel economy.
So, seven months ago, we launched this digital platform nationwide where consumers that love this country, love their freedom, stand for the values found in the Constitution, endowed by our Creator, These unalienable rights, if you love those values, you should put purpose behind your purchase and spend money at businesses that share those same values.
And ultimately, in the process, we've created America's Marketplace, and it's been amazing to watch it blossom.
So thanks for asking.
It's really been a tremendous journey thus far, and it's all free to join.
So the movement's continuing to grow every single day.
steve bannon
So tell to people, when they go, how do they get on?
What do they do? And then if you're a company or an entrepreneur, how do you do it also?
And when people are on there, what can they do?
How do they get the services? How do they get the products?
michael seifert
Yeah, great question. So you can head to publicsq.com and that's the best place to get started, whether you are a consumer or a business owner.
We have thousands of new consumers and business owners that join every single day.
It's a very easy, quick process and it's all free.
In fact, what's very cool is that if you're a consumer, when you sign up and you create an account, you'll be dropped into the experience and you'll immediately notice something interesting.
You're actually given discount incentives from the majority of these businesses to spend money in alignment with your values.
So not only can you have the satisfaction of having this liberating market experience where you know you're shopping your values and you're voting with your wallet, but many of these businesses will help you take it one step further and they'll actually give you discounts to spend money in alignment with your values.
And if you're the business owner, it's great because you can sign up for free And we'll never ask you for money.
We'll never charge you. You have the ability to present your products or services or goods to a group of consumers you know you can trust because they share your worldview.
So what's neat is that the business owners share every single day.
We're seeing our profits surge.
from consumers that love our country.
The consumers are saying, I finally feel satisfied with my purchase because I'm not having to just spend money at the same woke institutions anymore.
I have a new option. And for us, it's an honor because we get to broker that transaction and we get to introduce these consumers and businesses to one another.
And this parallel economy is created in the process.
steve bannon
If someone's sitting at home and they have an at-home business, or somebody's sitting there with a business that does a couple hundred million bucks a year, or somebody's got a local business, or plumbers, or car dealership, or car repair service, are all those eligible?
I mean, how do people know if they're going to be eligible as entrepreneurs to actually list their own businesses?
michael seifert
Yeah, Steve, it does not matter if you have one employee or 50 employees.
It doesn't matter if you make $1 a year or $100 million a year.
You are welcome on the platform.
As long as when you sign up, you agree with our set of values that say we love our country, we love our freedoms, we love the rights that are found in this Constitution, and we will never alienate our customers or infringe upon their God-given rights.
We believe in the right to life for all people born and unborn.
We believe that we should judge each other by the content of our character, not by the color of our skin or these other characteristics.
If you sign up as a business and you can agree with those things, it doesn't matter what industry you're in, you're going to be welcome there.
And what's very cool, Steve, is that we've got nearly 50,000 businesses from all different industries, whether it be coffee shops, restaurants, hotels, financial planners, banks.
Stripe today actually came out and canceled a very famous young men's organization that's trying to teach young men valuable life training skills.
They canceled them for toxic masculinity.
So what we can do is we can actually offer an alternative to Stripe, multiple alternatives, so that businesses can also receive business services that will allow them to conduct their businesses without fear of cancellation.
So no matter where you are on the economic spectrum, we'd love to have you at PublicSQ.com.
steve bannon
Seifert, how to get there one more time, and then what's your social media, sir?
michael seifert
So our social media is on Instagram, at OfficialPublicSQ.
On Twitter, it's at OfficialPSQ.
I am at RealMichaelSeifert, and you can find me on all major platforms.
And then the best place to find our platform to get started, whether you're a consumer or business, is PublicSQ.com.
steve bannon
Michael, thank you very much.
Fantastic. Love the company, and people that use it love it, too.
Thank you very much for joining us.
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steve bannon
Short break. Chris Miller, Secretary of Defense under Trump, Royce White, all next in the second hour of The War Room.
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