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Episode 2507: Combating The Weaponization Of The FBI Committee Day 1
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boris epshteyn
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sebastian gorka
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steve bannon
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nicolle wallace
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chuck grassley
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jim jordan
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On the Democratic side of the aisle who serve on the Weaponization Committee are experienced in dealing with oversight, accountability, and our congressional duties in a reasonable, rational, and responsible fashion and are going to be ready to push back against the extremism that we are going to see from the Weaponization Committee.
The American people do not support This weaponization committee, but it's exhibit A of the extreme MAGA Republican agenda, which is not designed to do anything to make a difference in the lives of the American people.
This is why President Biden's remarks during the State of the Union was so powerful and compelling.
Because he spoke about job creation.
He spoke about the economy.
He spoke about achieving the American dream.
He spoke about helping everyday Americans to lower costs against aggressive corporate overreach that takes place in the day-to-day lives of everyday Americans.
These are the issues that we're going to continue to focus on.
The Weaponization Committee is another unnecessary distraction, and it's a waste of time.
And the treasure of the American people.
elise stefanik
Because this is not just about the Twitter files, which folks are focused on because of the news it made.
It's about a systemic rot in the culture and the politicization of the leadership of the FBI, and it needs to be rooted out.
Let's take a step back.
Let's look at the targeting illegally of parents who wanted to stand up for their kids at school board meetings.
On September 29th, 2021, the National School Boards Association sent a letter to Joe Biden equating parents at school board meetings to domestic terrorists.
And on October 4th, Attorney General Merrick Garland issued a memorandum to the FBI and U.S. Attorneys that the department would use federal enforcement tools to target and prosecute these parents.
Do you consider parents as domestic terrorists?
unidentified
I do not consider parents as domestic terrorists.
elise stefanik
No, I do not. No. And neither do the American people.
But there's more to this story.
It goes back further than that initial letter on September 29th.
Because the letter didn't happen organically, it was solicited.
It was solicited by the White House and by the Secretary of Education.
Essentially, the Biden administration laid the predicate for which it used to justify illegally targeting the American people, targeting these parents.
Of the people that were made aware of the Hunter Biden laptop story, 53 % would have changed their vote, including 61 % of Democrats.
This is the definition of election meddling, and it's the definition of election meddling by the FBI on behalf of Democrats, paid for by the U.S. taxpayers.
It's collusion, it's corruption, and it's unconstitutional.
mike johnson
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. A lot has been said here about the fear of threats, but what we're concerned about in the scope of this committee is the fear of threats to the American citizens.
The reason we use the term weaponization is because it is appropriate.
We have so many examples of that across so many federal agencies that were designed to serve and protect the American people and have been used in recent years against them that it will take us probably two years to lay that out.
But I just want to focus on one that's been mentioned this morning because the timeline is important.
The school board's issue.
On June 22, 2021, Loudoun County parent Scott Smith spoke out at his local school board meeting and he was arrested.
On September 29, citing Mr.
Smith's arrest as an example, the National School Boards Association sent a letter to the Biden administration requesting federal law enforcement involvement in local school board disputes.
Now here's what's really important.
We learn later that the White House helped the NSBA draft that letter to itself.
On October 4th, Attorney General Merrick Garland issued the now infamous memo directing federal law enforcement to mobilize against the parents of school children.
who protest at their local school board meetings.
He turned the FBI, the U.S. Attorney's offices, the full weight of the Federal Department of Justice against the very citizens they were sworn to defend and protect.
On October 12th, we learned that the Loudoun County parent, Scott Smith's daughter, was actually sexually assaulted at her school and that the school board covered it up.
And that was the reason why that dad showed up to protest.
Nine days later, October 21st, happened to be the day previously scheduled for Attorney General Merrick Garland himself to appear before our House Judiciary Committee.
In that hearing, as my colleagues will remember, he was forced to acknowledge before our committee that the NSBA letter was the basis of his memo targeting concerned parents.
But he refused to acknowledge the obvious chilling effect that memo, involving the full weight of the federal law enforcement apparatus, would have on parents' protected First Amendment speech.
He also, by the way, refused to commit to a mandatory, under federal law, mandatory ethics review of his own family's financial ties to advancing critical race theory in schools in its relation to his school board memo and the obvious appearance of the conflict of interest therein.
I encourage all interested citizens to watch the video of that hearing.
It was pretty contentious. The very next day on October 22nd, after much public outcry, the NSBA retracted and publicly apologized for its letter labeling concerned parents like Scott Smith as, quote, domestic terrorists.
In the following weeks, over 20 different state school board associations severed their ties with the National School Boards Association.
Our Democrat colleagues have tried to downplay the importance of the Select Committee and even criticized its name as hyperbolic.
But as this example and so many others clearly show, key agencies have indeed been weaponized.
We're informed even still today that that memo has not been retracted by the Attorney General.
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The timestamp data provides an intimate window into a person's life revealing familial, political, professional, religious, and sexual associations.
Only the few without cell phones could escape this tireless and absolute surveillance.
Those are quotes from the Supreme Court's majority opinion in U.S. v.
Carpenter. And while Carpenter is a limited ruling addressing warrantless monitoring of cell site locations under the Fourth Amendment, the Court began considering whether the law needs to adjust to a digital world with extensive data collection and the analytical tools to operationalize that data.
The federal government has realized the value of the massive amounts of commercial consumer data that is freely available on the open market.
The data is produced to inform on aggregate population levels, but it also generates leads that produce investigations into individuals.
In 2020, the CDC purchased a cell phone location data from a data broker to monitor whether or not people went to church during quarantine.
In 2020, the DOD obtains consumer data from a Muslim prayer app.
In 2020, the Department of Homeland Security purchased cell phone location data to make enforcement decisions on the U.S.-Mexican border.
In the summer of 2020 and the turn of the year in 2021, DOJ obtained cell phone location data on Black Lives Matter protests and every cell phone in and around the Capitol on January 6th.
In 2022, several law enforcement associations publicly opposed a bipartisan data privacy bill because it would disrupt the ability to easily obtain certain consumer data.
And in 2023, just this week, the IRS proposed comparing a waiter's reported income from tips to the tip data that's submitted by their employing restaurant.
You may agree with some of these, you may disagree with some of these, but here's the thing.
None of these third-party data acquisitions required a warrant.
nicolle wallace
Hi there, everyone. It's four o'clock in New York.
A new chapter in the House GOP's plan to govern for Fox News and Fox News Only began today.
The committee set up for one purpose only, that is to fuel the right's favorite conspiracy theory.
It's somehow the deep state.
Is that to protect Democrats and persecute conservatives and the disgraced ex-president and his allies.
The so-called Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government held its very first hearing today.
Republicans invited a panel that included Senator Chuck Grassley, who once said this, that the FBI was, quote, corrupted to its core.
Senator Ron Johnson, who has never met a conspiracy he didn't really like a lot.
And former Congresswoman and current Fox News regular Tulsi Gabbard, here's to some of what they had to say.
chuck grassley
It's clear to me that the Justice Department and the FBI are suffering from a political infection that, if it's not defeated, will cause the American people no longer to trust these storied institutions.
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It will also threaten the American way of life.
ron johnson
Serious questions regarding instances of unequal application of justice and violation of January 6th defendants' due process rights remain unanswered.
nicolle wallace
It was a litany of complaints and grievances and delusions and fantasies about Hunter Biden, the FBI, the deep state, Twitter, COVID-19 and of course, as you heard right there, January 6th.
steve bannon
Okay, they're not happy.
It's Thursday, 9 February, Year of Our Lord 2023, the late afternoon, early evening block.
Of the war room. And man, they are mad as hornets about this.
We got a lot to get to. Seb, Dr.
Gorka is going to join me, Boris.
But first, Lee Smith, the great Lee Smith, the investigative reporter, has got a blockbuster story up in the tablet.
If Denver can put it on the screen, bring Lee in.
Lee, tell me what your investigative report shows about one of the most controversial figures in the nation's capital.
Lee Smith. Yeah, thanks, Steve.
lee smith
I mean, it looks like there's a role here played by a close friend of Joe Biden's.
We know that Joe Biden has spent several Thanksgiving dinners at the home of Carlyle Group co-CEO and co-founder David Rubenstein.
David Rubenstein is also a very big private donor to National Archives.
And this started, my investigation started when I started When I realized that there's not something right, naturally, about the official Biden administration account about how Joe Biden has wound up with so many classified documents,
as I described in the piece, I said that there's lots of people on the Hill who are contemplating what they're calling the Sandy Berger scenario, referring, of course, to Bill Clinton's national security adviser, who was caught stealing documents out of the archives.
And there's a lot of similarity here, though.
We haven't seen yet Joe Biden or evidence that Joe Biden stuffed documents in his socks like Sandy Berger did.
But again, what I work out in the piece is if you look at the different documents that were found all over different Joe Biden properties, his home, his beach house, the office at Penn Biden Center, what it looks like is he's just dropping stuff as he's returning from National Archives.
And we do know he was there at a certain point.
It looks like It's early 2017 when he was researching the book Promise Me, Dad.
So that's how David Rubenstein plays into this as the head of the, not the head of the archives, but as a major donor to the archives and someone who has a lot of influence there.
It looks like he influenced the last two, the former archivist, David Ferrero, who is responsible for referring Donald Trump to the DOJ for a criminal investigation.
And the new incoming archivist, a woman named Colleen Shogan.
steve bannon
Give us a minute or two.
I know you've got to bounce, but give us a minute or two on Rubenstein.
He's everywhere. Carlisle Group, quite frankly, is the private equity group that's here.
I think the only one headquartered, the only significant one.
Youngkin used to be CEO. This has had every government official.
I mean, this is the swamp, right?
This is how the administrative state rolls in to make some money and then comes back into the government.
Give me a minute or two on Rubenstein.
He's head of Kennedy Center. I mean, this guy is everywhere in the imperial capital.
Is he not Lee Smith?
lee smith
I mean, he spent a lot of money remaking different monuments, including Monticello, after the image of, you know, in the image of woke ideology.
So there's always a lesson wherever you go where David Rubenstein is about.
Monticello is all about slavery, national archives.
The permanent exhibit bearing his name, the David M. Rubenstein Gallery, has an exhibition called Records of Rights.
That talks about the disenfranchisement of minorities.
And, of course, these are all extremely important topics, Steve.
But when you look at what Rubenstein does and who he is and what the Carlyle Group has been up to, they're very, very close ties to the CCP. Remember that he was involved in helping Beijing evade export controls for different satellites that were sent to the CCP. And, of course, what these satellites were doing They were helping network People's Liberation Army troops.
They were helping propagandize the population, the Chinese population, as well as helping Chinese authorities put down protests in the Uyghur, in the Uyghur-majority region, Xinjiang.
So Rubinstein has, you know, he is one of the figures of the swamp who is most closely tied And remember, when we talk about Biden family corruption regarding the CCP, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
We have to also look at the people around Biden who are close to Biden and what this stands for.
It's not just people in government.
It's not just people throughout CIA, DOD, the State Department, the different Biden hands who are close to our relations with the CCP. We're also talking about Biden donors and Biden allies In the private sector.
That's the key to Rubenstein.
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He's at the very top of that list.
steve bannon
Top of it. Lee, Tablet Magazine's great.
Real quickly, how do people get to your social media?
Where do they get to your great investigative reporting, sir?
lee smith
Thank you, Steve. Thanks so much.
LeeSmithDC on Truth Social and on Twitter.
And I hope they will follow me.
And let's start a conversation.
Let's keep talking about this stuff.
I try to answer as many questions as I can.
People are reading my articles.
I'm super grateful.
I try to engage as much as possible, so please do write.
steve bannon
Lee, you're one of the best investigative reporters in the city.
Fantastic. And Rubenstein's a guy that we've got to put on the watch list.
Thank you very much, sir.
Short commercial break. Dr.
Seb Gorka, Boris Epstein on today's developments on the weaponization of government.
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Next, in the War Room. Okay, welcome back.
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Boris Epstein. David Rubinstein, very controversial figure in the nation's capital.
Turns out, Lee Smith, and you know Lee, tough as boot leather, Lee Smith, he wrote that great book on the coup against the president that was made into that incredible film.
Rubinstein, the National Archives, Joe Biden.
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Something's up there, is it not, sir?
boris epshteyn
Well, a lot is up there, Steve.
I'm going to be with you. I'm going to be with the posse today.
There's a lot up there. NARA has been shown as a completely left-wing, woke, radical organization, and they're putting disclaimers and warning labels on the Constitution, warning labels on the Declaration of Independence, is a huge issue.
It's a huge problem for the liberals, and this is a great deep dive that needs and deserves a lot more coverage.
But here's what we know for a fact.
We know that the previous archivist, out of thin air, He effectively pressured and bullied the DOJ. Not that the weaponized Department of Justice needs much impetus, but NARA pushed for an investigation, a wrongful investigation, into President Trump, and then resulted into the raid and break-in of his home.
And it is no surprise that this is all tied to a far-left, woke radical like David Rubinstein.
steve bannon
Boris, you've been coming on this show since the impeachment in 2019, right, in September, October 2019, the first number of episodes.
You and I have talked about the Church Commission and the importance of having it.
Give us your assessment of the first day, and particularly the left's meltdown.
I mean, MSNBC is absolutely, it's beyond throwing the toys out of the pram.
They're in a full, total meltdown, and they're going on offense like Hakeem Jeffries to try to blunt this right of the box, sir.
boris epshteyn
What you see happening is that the Democrats, what they did terribly with the Unselect Committee, what they did terribly by attacking President Trump in the Ways and Means Committee and wrongfully releasing his tax returns, now the Republicans are actually doing a good job at it.
Yesterday's powerhouse, powerhouse committee hearing on oversight regarding the FBI and Twitter, and today's Today's hearing in the Subcommittee on Weaponization, Lee Stefanik again taking it to them and saying the quiet part out loud, that there was obvious collusion between United States law enforcement and big tech to meddle in the 2020 election.
This is becoming a disaster quickly.
And nothing that, obviously, hopeless Joe Biden, and nothing that Hakeem Jeffries could say could run true.
And, you know, you've got AOS to go.
Why are we talking about pay?
Well, were you that concerned about it when you wasted tens of millions of dollars of America's taxpayer money on the unselect committee?
Were you that concerned about it when you were targeting President Trump and his family, including his minor son?
And their tax returns are releasing their private information?
No. The hypocrisy is being laid to bear.
The Democrats are embarrassed because the American people see right through that.
People who have no interest in governing, people who have no interest in anything about attacking Republicans, attacking MAGA, and attacking President Donald J. Trump.
steve bannon
By the way, I was really impressed.
We had Luna on this morning, but I was so impressed yesterday on oversight.
Some of the new faces there and people just being hammers.
But I got to tell you, I want your opinion.
When you look at the weaponization, you got Jordan, you got Stefanik, you have Gates.
Then you got some quiet guys who come in hot, Armstrong, Mike Johnson, others.
Tell me, what's your assessment of this weaponization?
It's going to be all the Democrats and all the DOJ and the FBI can handle, is it not, sir?
boris epshteyn
Absolutely, and I view the Oversight Committee and this subcommittee, the select subcommittee on weaponization, as these two very important forces, two very important columns that we are using in our fight to get America back.
Yesterday you had Higgins, you had Fallon, you had Comer, of course, on the Oversight Committee, and today you're totally right.
It's Jordan, it's Elise Stefanik, it's Darrell Issa, it's Gates.
The forces who are on these committees are serious.
They are determined. And you know what?
They're not joking around. They're not doing this just to get a laugh.
And they're not doing this just to make some far part of the constituents happy.
We are getting at the truth.
And the American people know what the truth is.
That woke radicals within our government have been colluding with Democrats for far too long to attack, harass, really criminalize, persecute, and prosecute Republicans, conservatives, and President Donald J. Trump as being the leader of Republicans and MAGA in this country.
And it's not just federal.
Federal forces, federal weaponized forces are using state and local.
Look at what's going on with the Manhattan D.A. Absolute and total nonsense as they continue to attack President Trump.
But now they're in a crossfire themselves between Alvin Bragg, the current D.A., and this guy Pomerantz who wrote a book where he's absolutely ripping apart the investigation and effectively admitting that they never had a case against President Trump.
Same thing in Georgia.
Same thing in And the New York Attorney General with that nonsense civil lawsuit that radical Tish James has brought.
The weaponization of government against President Trump and under his leadership, all Americans have gotten so out of hand, and it's got to stop now.
And huge kudos.
Just first days now, it's early days, but really strong moves by Republicans on the subcommittee on weaponization and on oversight.
I'm sure judiciary will do the same as well.
And I'm hearing Ways and Means is going to be taking a look as well.
There is strength.
There's strength in this MAGA Congress.
And as we've talked about, a majority of Republicans in Congress have been now there, have been elected since President Trump came into office in 2017, and it is definitely reflected in how well they're going after the sad, pathetic, hopeless Democrats and the woke, big tech collusion with deep state.
steve bannon
By the way, you know, we were the platform for Gates and the Magnificent Six and, of course, the Mighty Twenty trying to upend McCarthy.
But give us your assessment.
When you look at judiciary, you look at oversight, and you look at the Judiciary Subcommittee on Weaponization of Government, he staffed it up with hammers.
I mean, it's a pretty impressive lineup when you look at the folks up there from Boebert To Luna, to Comer, to Issa, to Jordan, to Stefanik.
And you've got every even backbencher is a hammer.
Boris? Absolutely.
boris epshteyn
And you look at Higgins yesterday coming in there.
Strong. Boom.
You ought to be arrested.
Byron Donald on oversight.
Strong. Today, as you said, Stefanik, Gates, Issa, of course, Jim Jordan himself.
There is no limit to how deep and far these vital...
determined, knowledgeable, and tough Republicans can go.
These are hammers. I'm proud of each and every one of them.
And I know that MAGA, and much more important, MAGA, the World Posse, and our country are proud of them for the hard and tough work they're doing.
steve bannon
What's your coordinates, Boris?
We know people got to follow you, and particularly your morning newsletter.
boris epshteyn
A lot going on. It's an honor to be here, as always, with you to talk about these vital issues.
And we're now fighting back.
We're on the offense, and it is a great place to be.
My information, the website is hotborrscp.com, hot on borrscp.com, hot on getter at borrscp, twitter at borrscp, hot on true social at borrsc, hottest on the gram, borrsc underscore upstate.
Stay strong. God bless all offense, and I'll talk to you tomorrow.
steve bannon
Thanks. How long is the Jordan clip?
Okay, let's play Jordan to bring in seven.
jim jordan
In my time in Congress, I have never seen anything like this.
Dozens and dozens of whistleblowers, FBI agents coming to us, talking about what's going on in the political nature at the Justice Department.
Not Jim Jordan saying this, not Republicans, not conservatives, good, brave FBI agents who are willing to come forward and give us the truth.
steve bannon
Seb, you've spent a lot of time with the FBI on the counterterrorism and the jihad, training at the academy, all that.
What does it mean to you, sir, that's given up so much of your life and you hold it in special regard, and particularly the people there and the institution, when you hear Jim Jordan say that, on the kickoff of weaponization of government?
sebastian gorka
This is personal for me.
I mean, you know my history before I joined you in the White House.
My wife and I, Katie, who ended up at DHS as press secretary for CBP, we had the only external contract to provide jihadi training on ISIS and AQ to the CTD, which is the counterterrorism division of the FBI. Today,
right now, after what we found out from just this handful of whistleblowers, every day I feel like going home, scooping up all those Challenge coins I've got from the ASACs, from the guys at the Hoover Building, and just delivering them by FedEx to the FBI and saying, guys, these are yours.
And for me, as somebody who's worked so closely with the G-men for years and years and years, to say that if they knocked on my door today, I'd say, go to hell.
You can talk to my attorneys.
That's sad. That's a sad day for America.
This is a political police force.
Whether it's Matthew Houck, the pro-life activist, whether it's you, whether it's Peter Navarro, whether it's Mar-a-Lago being besieged by armed FBI agents in full ceramic-plated body armor and loaded pistols.
going through Melania's wardrobe.
This is nothing more than a political police force.
It's Biden's Gestapo.
Sadly, we don't have control of the purse strings until September because of that traitor, Mitch McConnell, and his deal with the Democrats.
Let's get some sunlight on what the FBI has been doing, what DHS has been doing, what the CIA, what the NSA were doing to you and me in terms of surveilling us whilst we were in the West Wing.
Let's get the information out there so everybody in the Shire can know what the FBI has become.
steve bannon
Okay, we got a lot to get to.
It was the kickoff today of this new kind of repurposed church committee.
It's called the Weaponization of Government.
It's got the left in a complete and total meltdown.
Seb Gorka, Dr. Seb Gorka is our guest.
We're going to take a short break.
We're going to come back. We're going to talk about that.
We've also got some breaking developments on the Chinese spy airship.
Short commercial break.
We're going to be back with Seb Gorka in just a moment.
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Just beginning, but the games you want to play Bring it on and I will fight to the end, just watch and see It's all started, everything's begun And you are over Cause we're taking down the CCP Spread the word all through Hong Kong We will fight till they're all gone We rejoice when there's no more Let's take down the CCP
clay higgins
I had the Biden-Crump family laptop for a year.
They knew it was leaking.
They knew it would hurt the Biden campaign.
So the FBI used its relationship with Twitter to suppress criminal evidence being revealed about Joe Biden one month before the 2020 election.
You, ladies and gentlemen, interfered with the United States of America 2020 presidential election knowingly and willingly.
That's the bad news.
It's gonna get worse. Because this is the investigation part.
Later comes the arrest part.
Your attorneys are familiar with that.
Mr. Chairman, I'd like to spend five hours with these ladies and gentlemen, doing depositions surely yet to come.
But for right now, I yield the balance of my time to my colleague, Mr.
steve bannon
George. Can I change my phone ring to that?
And that could be my mantra.
I can listen to that 24-7.
Dr. Seb Gorka, your thoughts of what you've seen yesterday and today, sir, as far as the kickoff to these committees?
sebastian gorka
Well, it's nice, but nobody's going to be arrested.
As I said previously, we just have to get the information out there so the American people can draw the requisite conclusions.
But I'm sure you've already played it on The War Room today.
There's a cut from Lauren Boebert that was...
Just Stella, where she said in the hearing on Big Tech, she said, I don't know where the FBI stopped and Twitter began.
So, you know, that's the nature of the beast.
You know, when we were in the White House, Steve, when we talked about the deep state, we were just worried about, you know, the CIA, the FBI and the NSA. But now the deep state isn't just government.
What is that great quote from Reagan?
I mean, what is the definition of fascism?
It's when the corporate entities do the bidding of the political elite.
They're not subsumed as incarnations.
In communism, they're not taken over as a bureaucrat running the factory and driving it into the ground.
In fascism, it's the willing obeisance, it's the acquiescence, it's the genuflection of corporate interests subsumed under the needs of the uniparty.
So that's where we are in America today, and that's what these hearings will do.
We'll help to uncover, but there won't be any ramifications until we clear out the DOJ, until the FBI is dismantled.
When I have a 23-year FBI veteran on my show say, no, it's got to be dismantled.
Its missions, its CICT and CRIM missions have to be given to other federal agencies like the U.S. Marshals because it cannot be left to stand.
The whole culture is corrupt.
Can we just have a sanity check?
Can we do some math here, Steve?
We're talking about 36,000 people.
And we've got, what, 24 whistleblowers?
24 whistleblowers?
After this level of political targeting from the Hoover Building out of 36,000, that's a travesty.
And there's nobody outside the building protesting, saying, you can have my pension, you can have my badge, because they're not men of substance.
We want serious men.
Do you remember the discussions we used to have in the West Wing about serious men, how America needs serious men?
Now, more than ever, Steve.
steve bannon
Walk me through the appropriations process.
You're quite serious about defund and deconstruct.
Walk me through your plan for that because the FBI and DOJ, and this is what I think is so powerful.
We haven't had hearings like this, I think, forever.
I mean, I don't think this is going to go much into the church committee.
Since the 70s. And I think even deeper than that.
And by the way, people should understand this is just the kickoff.
Just to kick off, so the opening salvos, they said that weaponization is going to go for two years up until the 24th election.
Walk me through your recommendations for the FBI right now.
sebastian gorka
Well, the first thing is Michael Waller has written this incredible piece on this.
I mean, Stalinist new FBI headquarters that they've asked for funding for billions of dollars to create this huge new, you know, Stasi-esque central police headquarters for the federal government.
Well, that has to be, you know, that has to be killed in the cradle.
That has to be completely smothered, number one.
We can't do anything substantive, thanks to Mitch McConnell, until September.
But at that point, there has to be a strangling of all these things.
When you've got Kyle Serafim, one of the brave whistleblowers who actually puts his face to his name, goes on shows like mine and Bongino's, and he says...
They created a threat suffix.
So when you have, you know, an identifier for the target packages inside the Hoover Building, and one of them was hashtag EDU. What kind of threat is that?
Is that the latest variation of ISIS? Is that your North Korean intel assets on CONUS, on USOL? No, no.
Hashtag EDU was the FBI's threat marker For parents who stood up at school board meetings and said no CRT, no masks, no shutting down the schools, when the FBI has a threat marker for innocent American parents who don't want Marxist ideology to be rammed down the throats of their children in school, then there's no salvaging this organization.
The big sin came after 9-11 when George W. Bush said to the then director, Bob Mueller, you don't arrest criminals anymore.
You don't investigate criminals.
You must prevent the next crime.
That's not what police officers do.
They turn the FBI into an intelligence organ.
After that moment, it's a small thing, but it tells you, for those who aren't familiar, the FBI email, the end of the suffix for an FBI agent is fbi.gov.ic.
What the hell? Why is the FBI email system fbi.gov.ic?
Intelligence community?
What have you got to do with intelligence?
Nothing. You should be investigating crimes and making cases.
steve bannon
Like the old school. Okay, talking about intelligence, let's go ahead and play some of the hearing today on the Chinese either weapons platform blimp or the intelligence blimp.
Let's go ahead and play it.
unidentified
I'm over time, and this is the last thing so you can answer it, I hope.
Do we have a plan for the next thing that happens and how we're going to deal with it?
Because quite frankly, I'll just tell you, I don't want a damn balloon going across the United States when we potentially could have taken it down over the Aleutian Islands.
No offense to Alaska or Alaska or in some of the areas in Montana.
And I understand public health.
I understand doing damage.
I understand that could have been a nightmare.
But the truth is, I got a problem with a Chinese balloon flying over my state, much less the rest of the country.
Senator, absolutely.
We sent a very clear message to the PRC when we shot it down in our sovereign airspace, in our sovereign waters.
That has established that deterrent line.
steve bannon
Okay. Just all kind of happy talk.
By the way, it's John Tester.
John Tester, he's in cycle, as we say, running for the Senate in Montana.
I think he'd be up for a third time in a state that is pure MAGA. He knows he's got a problem.
Seb, what we know now, I'm not quite sure they've still given the Gang of Eight They're briefing, but we now know that even before the 28th, they knew the airship was heading towards the Aleutian Islands.
Give us your assessment. It's been a couple of days over Alaska.
Last time I looked, that's American Sovereign Territory.
And then it hovered over the ICBM launch field in north-central Montana.
sebastian gorka
Seb Gorka. I don't know who that meat puppet was who that woman said to Tesla said, yes, we have executed a deterrent mission.
After the blimp traversed the whole of the United States, the diagonal swath took whatever SIGINT scoops it wanted to of our missile batteries, our sensitive sites.
Then we shoot it down after it sent all those data packages encrypted.
Back to Beijing, that's the deterrent.
I think her idea of victory in war is, you know, once we have surrendered and, you know, Washington DC is a sheet of glass.
Look, let's be very clear here.
China has military satellites that you can't see with a pair of binoculars that can do all kinds of very high-end signals intelligence.
Why do they pick technology from the era of Blerio, that's 200 years old, that is low-tech, that is 200 feet across, that is moving incredibly slowly, to tell everybody in the world, not just in Vietnam, not just in Taiwan,
not just in Singapore, but everyone around the world, we can fly an airship across America that is a spy platform With impunity, whether it's because the big guy gets 10 % through Hunter, or whether it's because he's a senile, feckless coward, doesn't matter.
The end state is our greatest strategic enemy, and I learned that from you, our only peer competitor.
Dump its intel scoop back in Beijing, and then we'll take it out of the skies.
That's the message. And of course, Mark Milley, the man who said, in uniform, in combats, he said when he was chief of staff of the army, China is not our enemy.
And then in an interview said, under President Trump, I told General Li in Beijing if President Trump were planning military action against China, I would give him a heads up.
That man, that overweight guy, disgrace to the U.S. Army uniform is still the most senior military person in the United States, Steve.
steve bannon
Seb, given your understanding of the combatant commands, given your understanding of how the White House National Security Council works, the intel, the 16 or what, 18 agencies in the intel community, the chain of command, do you believe, and by the way, they still haven't, to my knowledge, done the official Gang of Eight presentation of this.
Do you believe, at least from the leaks, That starting from sometime before the 28th, when they kind of picked it up, but definitely on the 28th when it hit the Aleutian Island airspace, that they didn't notify, because the thing right now is they didn't notify the White House until that Wednesday or Thursday, when all the traverse, all the way across Alaska to Canada, and when they came down to the lower 48.
sebastian gorka
Do you buy that? I do, I do, because we now know, just sitting in a chair six feet away from me, just three days ago, I had, you remember Rob Spaulding, the former B-2 stealth bomber pilot, who was our senior director in the Trump NSC for strategy and planning, and he said, Overflights by Chinese blimps when we were in office?
Well, if they occurred, we, the White House Senior Director for Strategy and Planning, we were not told, which means that Milley, or his predecessor, Or that insult to the Marine Corps lapdog mad dog Mattis didn't tell the then Commander-in-Chief.
So whether it's not telling us at all when President Trump is the Commander-in-Chief or waiting four days when it's Biden and Sadly, sadly, I can believe it when I hear that the son of a three-star Green Beret general, when his son, who is a young officer from Bragg, has just returned from the Baltic states training their forces for resistance warfare against a potential Russian invasion.
He's on the ground in a NATO nation state prepping their SF, and he comes back to Bragg.
And what does he get, Steve?
Four hours of mandatory pronoun lectures.
Pro-noun lectures.
Then I can believe anything, Steve.
steve bannon
Unbelievable. Seb, how did it get to your great show, all your great content, the Substack, all of it?
sebastian gorka
We're on all podcast platforms.
Just look for Sebastian Gorker, America First.
You can watch us 24-7 at sebgorker.com.
That's the website. My name, S-E-B, Seb Gorker, G-O-R-K-A. And then, of course, the Substack, which is my whole name in one word, sebastiangorker.substack.com.
And then we're on all social media that matters, Truth Social, Twitter, Facebook.
Getter, Parler, Telegram, you name it, we are there.
Just look for me, Seb Gorka.
unidentified
Thank you, guys. Dr.
steve bannon
Seb Gorka, thank you very much.
My deputy in the White House, Dr.
Seb Gorka, and one of the senior editors over at Breitbart.
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We rejoice when there's no more.
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steve bannon
Okay, there's so much going on that we're having to really curate the show now.
Plus, we're doing the live streams.
We want everybody to either download, get or get together.
When they do these live streams like today for the hearings, it's really very special when the community comes together.
You're sharing information.
You're making comments. You're making analysis.
And of course, given our meeting schedule, I try to dip in and out of them, but they're either run by Jane or Grace Chung, Mo, whatever.
And of course, Natalie's coming in and out as she does her analysis.
So a lot going on in these hearings.
And so it's so much in the second hour.
We have Vivek Ramaswamy.
Now, he's been doing this ESG, but he's got this brilliant speech he did.
We're going to play clips of that.
We're going to have him on live, and we're going to talk about the Chinese Communist Party, the strategy of America and China, what's actually happening on climate change.
We're going to really talk about what's happening to these corporations.
It's incredible. We're also going to get an update.
We couldn't finish the conversation this morning on Ukraine and everything that's happening in Ukraine.
Remember, Matt Gaetz has now put forward a resolution To basically take our funding to zero and essentially force.
It's really to force Biden to come to Congress and have to do a war powers resolution.
This thing in Ukraine, I'm telling you, is spinning more and more out of control every day.
Zelensky is over in Europe. He's asking for fighter jets.
You're going to start to see this big pressure.
And this war is starting to metastasize.
And we are the ones underwriting it.
If we're going to continue to do that, The commander in chief has to come and make the case to the Congress, make the case to the American people.
We can't have a situation like Vietnam, the Iraq war, Afghanistan.
We just drift through these things and they get worse and worse and worse.
And I'm telling you right now, when we talk tanks and you talk jets, you talk combined arms warfare, you're going to have Americans first in his advisor, second in his maintenance, all of it.
Next thing you know, the 101st Airborne that's running the Right on the border of Romania, they're going to be called in.
So we've got to stop this now.
We have to force. This is why the Gates thing is so important.
So we've got Ben Harnwells going to join us for the Ukraine update.
Also, Kelly Chebacca, she's going to update this rank of choice voting.
I'm telling you, it's spreading everywhere.
It's in Arizona. I think it's like 28 states talking about it.
It is we have to dig this thing out root and branch.
This is a way not just to kill MAGA candidates, but this is also going to ensure people who actually don't win elections are the ones that are standing up, the ones that actually win at the end of the day, although they didn't win in the legitimate first round.
Of course, we got Laura Lomer.
Laura, a lot of people know her as a firebrand.
She's got a very interesting RICO case against the tech oligarchs.
And that got some real traction yesterday.
And of course, Anna Polina Luna, today on the show, we've put it out, I think it kind of went mini-viral, where she said yesterday, hey, these guys right there, in much of the testimony, I shouldn't say much of the testimony, Certain amounts of the testimony yesterday were perjured.
She said they perjured themselves under oath.
They lied to her under oath and other congressmen as they asked these very pointy questions.
So these committees are starting off with a bang.
We're going to get to that. We're going to talk about this RICO case that Loomers got when she was a congressional candidate among the big tech oligarchs.
So for the next hour, it's going to be actually jam-packed.
Also, a lot of controversy around Veritas.
Hey, I'm a James O'Keefe guy.
I've known him for 12 years. To me, he is Veritas.
I don't know all the details of what's going on there, but somehow they got to work that out.
I find it, you know, I'm not a believer in coincidence.
I can't believe the great work they've done on Pfizer and all of a sudden we have this big controversy and the board's turfing him out.
Hey, and people can sit there and go, it has nothing to do with it, but hey, I'm from Missouri on this one.
The work they have done on Pfizer, coupled with what Naomi Wolf and the War Room Posse did with the Pfizer research and what they did on Pfizer, I just can't believe this thing's coming up.
So hopefully more developments in the next 24 hours.
To me, he's got to stay at Veritas.
He is Veritas. Okay, we got a lot going on.
Krom, Michael is with us.
Krom, everybody loves salty that gets it.
I want to make sure more people have access to it.
Tell us what it does and how do they get to it on the special deal for the War Room Posse.
crom carmichael
Thanks again for having me and thanks for all the great work that you and your team do for our country.
Soul Tea is a dietary supplement.
It's one that we developed, a super enriched green tea extract that we call Soul Tea, and we created it 18 years ago.
What we do, Steve, is we take a particular molecule from fresh green tea, we have a proprietary fermentation process, and from that process we extract teoflavin, and we end up with a 22 % concentration of teoflavin as opposed to a simple 1 % concentration in green tea.
And it is that active ingredient in soul tea that makes it so beneficial for the heart and particularly for lowering cholesterol.
And 18 years ago, we did clinical trials and David Marin, a cardiologist at Vanderbilt, looked at all of the data, wrote up a paper that was then published in the archives of internal medicine.
So we have some very, very strong science behind the heart health benefits of Salty and especially the cholesterol lowering benefits of Salty.
And I'm the poster child.
I've been taking our products for 18 years.
When I started taking it, my bad cholesterol was 130.
In 90 days, it dropped to 89.
It's been under 90 ever since.
My blood pressure's good.
My doctor says my heart is in terrific shape.
And heart health is super, super important.
Because heart disease is still the number one killer.
And the way people can get it, the way the posse can get Soul Tea is to go to warroomhealth.com.
That's warroomhealth.com.
And that'll take you to the Soul Tea site where you can enter the code WARROOM at checkout and you get a $29.95 discount on your first meal.
And then on a continuing basis, you'll get a super deal.
Our continuity program on a continuing basis is three bottles for the price of two, and we always pay the freight.
So it's a very fixed amount.
It works out to about 70 cents a day, and it's a great way to take care of your heart and your heart health, and particularly your cholesterol.
And Steve, I appreciate so much you letting me talk to the posse about Salty.
steve bannon
Well, I tell you, people love it, so we want to make sure you keep coming on.
Kram, thank you so much.
Thank you for doing this. Thank you for making it available.
People love it. I want to make sure everybody gets a chance to go take a look at it.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're back for the second hour.
It's going to be on fire.
That I can commit to you.
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Back in the war room in just a moment.
We will fight till they're all gone.
boris epshteyn
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