Feb. 4, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
| MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved. | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Saturday, 4 February, year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| Poso had to bounce, but we had, you know... | ||
| We headed the straight, tough way from Congressman Matt Rosendale out in Montana and also Jack Posobiec, one of the smartest guys I know in this space. | ||
| One of the other smartest guys is Dr. | ||
| Peter Navarro, and Dr. | ||
| Navarro joins us now by phone. | ||
| Peter, people know you as the Trump manufacturing guy, and you negotiate all the Chinese deals, and you're an expert, a Ph.D. from Harvard in economics. | ||
| But I know you, when I first knew about you and your writings and your filmmaking, it was about you understand the Chinese Communist Party and President Trump understood this. | ||
| You know the Chinese Communist Party, I think, better than at least the people you and I met in our intelligence community. | ||
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Right. You've done books there for years. | |
| Yeah, I read their intelligence briefs. | ||
| I did. Actually, intelligence briefs? | ||
| Whoa. God, he never had it right. | ||
| But anyway, I digress. | ||
| Go ahead. No, no, no. | ||
| Peter and I would sit there, you'd get these briefs from these guys, and we'd look at each other. | ||
| He's got a side-eye, and then Peter would always have his, the greatest put-down Navarro came out and goes, exactly why is this classified? | ||
| And they would go absolutely nuts. | ||
| But it wasn't just classification. | ||
| It wasn't the classification. | ||
| It was just the understanding. | ||
| Walk me through, and I want the audience to appreciate the fact, because we're talking now, You know, Blinken and you on yesterday's show, we started the show by talking about the Financial Times of London, had a headline in the morning when we started the show, Blinken to meet Xi during landmark China visit in sign of thawing relationships. | ||
| And all it talked about is how Biden's done so much to bring them together after Trump and Navarre and Bannon and all these, you know, people didn't know what they were doing, you know, were hammering the CCP about a decoupling And then, of course, before the show was over, it was canceled because of the spy balloon. | ||
| But it's much deeper than that. | ||
| Talk to us about you. You've been basically writing about this, I think, 2004, 2005, 2006. | ||
| Your first book and then your second, you've talked about the war of the Chinese Communist Party upon the West in a very sophisticated way of unrestricted warfare. | ||
| Walk us through your theory of the case. | ||
| And where do you think we stand today, Dr. | ||
| Peter Navarro? Well, as a preface, it does frustrate me that back in 2006, I wrote The Coming China Wars, 2006, Death by China in 2011, Crouching Tiger, Will There Be War with China in 2015? | ||
| That trilogy basically is as right today as it was back then, and it just frustrates me to hear these clowns in Washington say, Saying the same stuff I was saying back in 2006, never having done anything about it. | ||
| What I'd like to do for your audience is put some perspective on this particular incident and take it back to April 2001, when this Communist China jet jock, Wei Wang, was doing some very aggressive maneuvers on a Navy P-3 reconnaissance plane in international waters. | ||
| In the South China Sea, Wang managed to clip the wing of the P-3 plane and essentially kill himself because he plunged to the ground. | ||
| But the P-3 had to limp its way 70 miles to Heinen Island, which is part of Communist China. | ||
| And what ensued then was what Mike Pillsbury would call the four humiliations, where They perp-walked the crew. | ||
| They held them hostage. | ||
| They stripped that plane of every piece of classified information, which we now, according to reports years later, was considerable. | ||
| And the biggest humiliation was they gave us the plane back, but only after Lockheed Martin. | ||
| They broke it down into pieces and they shipped it back in crates, okay? | ||
| Now, I mention this because can you imagine if a U.S. balloon was discovered flying over Chengdu, right? | ||
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What would the Chinese have done? | |
| What the Biden administration has done is said, eh, no big deal. | ||
| Blinken, you come home for a little bit. | ||
| We'll send you back when the dust clears. | ||
| The Pentagon says don't shoot it down. | ||
| You might hurt somebody. I'll tell you what. | ||
| If this was a Trump administration, one of two things would have happened for certain. | ||
| Shoot it down, or better yet, force that thing down, do ground, and then examine what exactly was in it. | ||
| Because the Chinese are trying to make us all believe in their usual comments, China, big lie stuff. | ||
| That somehow this thing, it was just a weather balloon. | ||
| Yeah, I ain't buying what they're selling. | ||
| And that's the difference between Trump land, Bannon land and Navarro land versus Biden and Blinken land. | ||
| And what the bigger picture here is that this kind of activity, this aggressiveness of Communist China basically tells us that They're preparing for war against us. | ||
| I don't think it's going to be a hot war necessarily unless it's over Taiwan. | ||
| It's going to be unrestricted warfare. | ||
| They want every picture they can, whether it's from TikTok or whether it's from a weather balloon or wherever, that they can identify our infrastructure and paralyze it using whatever tools they can. | ||
| So that, for me, It's a broader perspective on this incident. | ||
| It shouldn't go away, but everybody's going to try to sweep this under the rug. | ||
| And they'll call Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, the only two guys who were sanctioned four minutes in to the Biden regime by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Are being held in contempt of Congress. | ||
| Only you people on the plan. | ||
| Billions on the plan. Go ahead. | ||
| We got two entities. | ||
| One is the criminal element out of Beijing. | ||
| The other is the criminal element out of Washington, D.C. I've got the book up, and if Denver can decide. | ||
| I've got unrestricted warfare, which I always keep my marked-up copy. | ||
| It's up in my library, but I always keep a fresh copy here on the desk at the War Room. | ||
| I need you to go back as a tutorial, because this is a teaching moment, Peter. | ||
| Walk me through the concept of unrestricted warfare as seen through the eyes of the Chinese Communist Party in the PLA, sir. | ||
| The whole idea is to be able to bring an enemy to the knees, the Sun Tzu thing, without firing a shot. | ||
| And then at the other end is like they have this hot war where it leaves and nukes and everybody dies. | ||
| But in between there, the unrestricted warfare is just a really wide range of techniques to bring a country to its knees. | ||
| For example, in moments of tension, you could shoot satellites out of the sky, right? | ||
| Nobody dies with that particular act until all communications are down, there's chaos on the ground. | ||
| And America's in turmoil. | ||
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Or, for example, you could hijack a rail system. | |
| Or you could, with computerized attacks, you know, malicious hardware, you could take a computer chip that was made in a Chinese factory that found its way into an F-35 and, you know, to basically stop it in midair and have it crash to the ground. | ||
| You could spread COVID-19 through a population to stop Donald Trump from getting elected and then deny that it was from a lab in Wuhan. | ||
| I mean, there's just so many things you can do. | ||
| That concept, Steve, plus asymmetric warfare is the heart of what the Chinese are going to do. | ||
| And for me, the asymmetric warfare is like taking a million-dollar missile to sink a billion-dollar aircraft carrier. | ||
| So this is the way the Chinese think. | ||
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They're coming at us relentlessly hard. | |
| Unrestricted warfare also includes infiltrating our universities and stealing all our new technologies from Silicon Valley and our research tanks. | ||
| So, look, Steve, I've written all about this for years and years and years. | ||
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And, yeah, you've got, you know, the com-contents of this world. | |
| Everybody's running on a tough on China thing. | ||
| It's like, quit talking. | ||
| Just do something. Just friggin' do something, Steve. | ||
| Let's talk about that do something. | ||
| You started doing your notes in the book basically in 2002, so essentially over 20 years you've written a trilogy about the conflict and the coming conflict with China. | ||
| Has there been anything since you first started that you've seen in their behavior that's been either not captured in your book or some change of their strategy over the 20 years that you focus on this professionally, sir? | ||
| No. I mean, it's all there. | ||
| You just go back and read By the way, peternavar.com, you can see kind of each of the books and the summaries and stuff like that. | ||
| But it's been obvious, Steve, since they joined the World Trade Organization in 2001. | ||
| That was the turning point, okay? | ||
| Because prior to that, they didn't have the resources to build up their military and be that aggressive. | ||
| Once they got into the World Trade Organization and began systematically dismantling the American manufacturing base, Exporting our factories to China and accumulating vast sums of wealth. | ||
| And I'm always reminded by the fact that our trade deficit with China is about equal to their annual military budget. | ||
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No coincidence there. | |
| They've just been relentlessly going about what Pillsbury calls his 100-year war. | ||
| And look, I mean, all the people sitting on the Chinese side of the table now when they meet Blinken and all, they're the same people that's had across from me and you and the Trump people. | ||
| And it's a great advantage. | ||
| It's like they're the same people, and it's like, oh, we change administrations like diapers, you know? | ||
| It's like, and we just go on and fool the next, and some are easier to fool than others, you know? | ||
| It's like the Biden people are compromised and foolish. | ||
| They're like pieces of cake. | ||
| Can you imagine, Steve, when Tiger Wang was given that lecture to Tony Blinken in Alaska at the first meeting? | ||
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If you and I had been sitting at that table, How long that s*** would have lasted? | |
| Pardon my French. Well, but hang on. | ||
| But hang on. You saw that, though, over at Kushner's family's office building. | ||
| They flew over immediately to see when President Trump took the call from the president of Taiwan, and they had to fly over right away. | ||
| And one day, I think it was General Flynn, Jared, myself, and you, and then the next day was It was Sabbath. | ||
| They tried to read you the riot act and we just sit there and go, hey, sorry. | ||
| We're not so sure about the Spratly Islands. | ||
| They freaked out. We're not so sure we agree with this one China policy. | ||
| I remember when we were out in Buenos Aires and Trump was threatening to raise tariffs by a significant amount more. | ||
| And watching Winnie the Pooh there, Xi Jinping, the dictator in China, just kissing Trump's ass. | ||
| That was a sight to my home. | ||
| We got out of that meeting, and Donald Trump's eyebrows were like, wow, did you see that? | ||
| You know, the sad part there was that it worked, that kowtowing worked, and we backed off a little bit from the tariffs because of the Mnuchin-Kudlow wing and all that stuff. | ||
| But, you know, it's like These people, they're playing for keeps, Steve. | ||
| They're coming after you and me, certainly directly, but the whole country. | ||
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We keep getting further and further behind. | |
| I don't see any progress whatsoever. | ||
| They try to marginalize you or me or Daphne or whoever tries to raise this stuff. | ||
| It's like, Kushner's got these kids learning Chinese. | ||
| I couldn't figure that out until I realized what was going on there. | ||
| You got the joke. I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| How do people get to all your content? | ||
| We've got about 30 seconds. Where do they go? | ||
| Glad to have you back on board. | ||
| Where do people go to get your content? | ||
| Well, the big thing I'd ask now is go to give, send, go, forward slash Navarro. | ||
| Give, send, go, forward slash Navarro. | ||
| I've got a big legal bill I've got to pay in the next couple of weeks. | ||
| And folks have been really good about small donations. | ||
| Don't do anything more than you can afford. | ||
| But that'll help a lot. | ||
| And of course, PeterNavarro.com has got all my gateways. | ||
| Peter Navarro, honored to have you on here. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro, look forward to having you back. | ||
| Make sure you thank you. | ||
| We're going to get you off the injury reserve at some time. | ||
| Dr. Peter Navarro, thank you very much. | ||
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Honored to have you on here. Okay. | |
| Energy. The backbone of the American economy. | ||
| The thing that can change your life around. | ||
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Today. What's the status? | |
| What's the direction? | ||
| And how controversial? | ||
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All next in the world. Okay. | |
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| Dave Walsh joins us. | ||
| Dave, first thing, the weather, historic up on, you know, even for a Saturday morning, it's cold everywhere in the Northeast record. | ||
| I think Mount Washington's a minus 100 with, you know, wind chills or wind chills over minus 100. | ||
| It's blowing hard up there. | ||
| What, the situation in Texas, has the grid held up? | ||
| Do we have a massive grid problem in the country that can't take these weather anomalies, sir? | ||
| Yeah, we seem to continue to have signs of that. | ||
| Central Texas had up to Thursday 171,000 people out of electricity. | ||
| This morning 123,000 people just in Austin out of electricity. | ||
| Across the state, 260,000 people. | ||
| Nationally, 400,000. | ||
| Once we get into truing this up a few days from now, we'll hear it's actually been a lot more if history proves in December. | ||
| But again, There is some issue with the ice overhang in Texas and lack of reliability of lines, but we're back to nothing really has changed there with respect to the lack of power generation for the coldest time periods and the warmest periods because they're 28 percent dependent on wind power, which operates very intermittently and not when it's below 20 degrees unless systems have been de-iced, blades have been de-iced. | ||
| You've got the inability for that gigantic generation resource to be useful at all in this type of weather. | ||
| So that's in the mix, undoubtedly. | ||
| Austin is near the wind farms west of there, dominantly is where they are, and that power somewhat comes to the central and eastern part of Texas. | ||
| When it's not there, it's a huge problem. | ||
| They are moving ahead to go ahead with a capacity payment structure now. | ||
| ERCOT is considering to promote the investment in baseload continuous duty plants they badly need. | ||
| Okay, talk to us about that. Nobody's having that, at least you're not in any of the Fox News or MSNBC. Nobody's talking about a solution here. | ||
| What is the solution so that we get off the hook that people's lives are in jeopardy, their livelihoods in jeopardy? | ||
| What needs to be done here? | ||
| Well, the issue with this, they keep calling it the grid. | ||
| The grid is a problem. The problem now is across most of the country, Texas, California, Minnesota, the areas suffering from these brownouts is the power generation system itself, not the grid that transmits it, but the fact of so much renewable, | ||
| intermittent, largely non-usable energy systems have been built, displacing, and the sin is that coal plants and nuclear plants have been shut down en masse that produce constant, on-demand, what's called dispatchable energy, Meaning, again, you can hit the start button, you know you have electricity that you don't have from solar and wind that operate intermittently. | ||
| So many of these shutdowns have occurred that the country is now bereft with a vastly increasing number of shutdowns. | ||
| So the country needs an augmentation of more continuous-duty power-generating plants built. | ||
| Right now, the one that can get built most rapidly is a combined-cycle natural gas-fired plant that recycles its exhaust into a steam turbine. | ||
| Through a heat recovery steam generator in a recycling mode to make the most efficient use of gas, which, by the way, is very cheap now. | ||
| Suddenly again at $2.80 a decathern. | ||
| So building combined cycle plants that can run all the time is a way forward in these markets that lack, now lack, unfortunately, like the third world, lack continuous duty power plants. | ||
| Because again, electricity is not saved up in a storage bank. | ||
| It's used in microsecond and it's created It's not held in reserve anywhere. | ||
| It's not like water. | ||
| It has to be used the moment it's created. | ||
| So you always need more generation capacity than you have demand for electricity or you have brownouts and blackouts. | ||
| Is capacity being built right now? | ||
| Is that already underway or is it just being debated, discussed? | ||
| Has it been financed? Is this actually built so that we're going to put this problem in back of us in a year or two? | ||
| The capacity payment thing in Texas is being discussed in public hearings now. | ||
| Looks like something's going to happen within the next six months. | ||
| So it's happening there. | ||
| But again, the country is divided into regions, federal electricity administration regions, and the states have a lot to do with this through their public service commissions, forcing utilities to build more baseload generation. | ||
| And in a lot of states, public service commissions, depending on who the governor is and how the governor is oriented, Because generally the governor appoints public service commissions, for example, in California, vehemently opposed to building any baseload continuous duty plants because they deem them all to be polluting, whether coal, gas or nuclear. | ||
| They don't like any of them. So you've got that issue in California and a number of other states where governors, especially upper New England, New England, the upper Northeast, the upper Midwest, where you've got a preponderance of Democratic governors holding back Public Service Commissions from improving any more baseload generation and, in fact, tearing down that which they have because a lot of it is coal and nuclear. | ||
| It's a horrendous problem. | ||
| If you take the collective forecast that a firm like Market prepares the forecast for industry of how much solar and wind is going to be bought by 2030, if you take the forecast of that new capacity that's going to be solar and wind It's two and a half times what we have today, just in seven to eight years. | ||
| We will have reserve margins down from 25 % today to about 12 % by then, which is a horrendous issue with brownouts and blackouts asymptotically go up, not linearly, but will triple and quadruple in number if we absorb that much more solar and wind while shutting down the amount of baseload energy sources they're forecasting will be shut down. | ||
| So the fact of this happening is horrendously on side with many, many, many more brownouts and blackouts and unstable electricity supplies as we go forward. | ||
| The big energy companies have been reporting this week, profitability, direction. | ||
| A lot of them are saying, or some of them are saying, hey, instead of putting our cash flow back into production, development, distribution, marketing downstream, we're going to play the financial engineering game and just buy back stock, buy up to 25 % of our equity. | ||
| You've got this big controversy on ESG. You've got the public pension funds. | ||
| Ron DeSantis is saying, If Fink and these guys don't stop ESG, they're going to pull the public pension money out of it. | ||
| And then you've got the SEC part of it. | ||
| Walk us through in a couple of minutes, where do we stand with capital markets and these companies that have heretofore really been driving the full-spectrum energy dominance, sir? | ||
| Well, Chevron led the league with this share buyback, $75 billion planned share buyback, which is unheard of over a couple-year period. | ||
| But they've been punished with five shareholder votes, pushing management and the board to adopt even more aggressive ESG compliance measures than management and the board have wanted to. | ||
| When you look at that, you get like 0.62 % of the shareholders actually get to vote in these activities. | ||
| Brokers that hold shares don't vote them. | ||
| So you've got very small groups like the Massachusetts Pension Fund and CalPERS, State Government of California controlling huge blocks of shares in Chevron that basically forced five votes against management that lead them now to just slide into second base safely instead of taking a triple by returning funds to shareholders by buying back stock instead of investing in their core business. | ||
| Now, the rest of the industry, though, it looks like they've reacted to this. | ||
| ExxonMobil have doubled down on, hey, we're going to We're going to stick with our core investments in oil and gas. | ||
| We're going to hold their capital spending and their production and investment plan in seeking new oil fields and investing in production. | ||
| BP CEO Larry Bernard Looney indicated he's going to begin to pull back from renewable investments British Petroleum have been making because returns are so poor. | ||
| So that's a very positive thing. | ||
| And today we're hearing the SEC might actually Begin to ease some of these rules on companies needing to disclose the effects of extreme weather and emissions costs inside of their financials in ESG space. | ||
| So there's some positive movement that shareholders are beginning to push back strongly, at least investors, on some of the ESG stuff. | ||
| You've got massive BlackRock, Fidelity, a couple of examples, big studies have been made of underperforming ESG-based funds. | ||
| BlackRock has an ESG-aware ETF. Guess what? | ||
| The fees they charge are three times the fees on their S&P index fund. | ||
| Fidelity has a fund that is actually a women's leadership fund. | ||
| That ETF charges 20 to 30 times the expense ratio of their typical S&P 500 ETF. You've even got investment firms making plus, plus, plus revenues and profits On creating higher fees for these ESG funds. | ||
| So that's, you know, the industry, the financial industry is way into this also. | ||
| Big time. Okay, we got about a minute. | ||
| Boris Johnson's over here looking for unlimited money for Ukraine. | ||
| In England, in London, they're burning coal and wood to the point where they've got the atmosphere like Victorian England. | ||
| Is any improvement going to be on that? | ||
| We got 30 seconds, Dave. | ||
| Any improvement you see happening in London anytime soon? | ||
| Not in the near term. | ||
| I mean, they've dismantled essentially all their coal-fired continuous-duty generation. | ||
| They have not taken decisions yet under LizTrust. | ||
| They look like they're moving in this direction to free up permits, drilling permits in the North Sea. | ||
| They need to do that. | ||
| They need to free up fracking and natural gas development on land underfoot. | ||
| They're slow-walking that with the change in government. | ||
| No, the salvation for now is mass importing of LNG from the USA Dave, we're going to put your social media up after the break. | ||
| Thank you very much. Dave Walsh. | ||
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| One of the things we've been tracking on everything we do on energy is this, you know, you've had this ESG, you've had these other requirements, you've had people pushing back, some of the companies just buying their stock back, even kind of essentially looking like they're getting out of the energy business. | ||
| At Pfizer, I want to make sure other people are saying that Pfizer stocks off about $40 billion since mid-January, just starting this year, $40 billion. | ||
| And a combination, I think, of your research in the book and the research that's coming out, coupled with James O'Keefe and the great team over Veritas, has clearly brought this Pfizer situation up to the forefront. | ||
| And I'm not saying that's what's caused the sell-off. | ||
| Obviously, there's also questions about the profitability of the vaccine, what's going to happen near term. | ||
| Is there some point in time, because you're going to start, you've got more reports and more things that will make people's heads blow up. | ||
| Is there some point in time we have to start turning and focusing on these big pharma companies, ma'am? | ||
| I mean, what, it's an interesting question, what is to be done, right? | ||
| Because in, and forgive me, we have Loki the puppy and I guess we're introducing viewers to Loki the puppy, who's adorable. | ||
| But, you know, in a capitalist society, if they're not engaging in a monopoly or selling dangerous or fraudulent products, there's very little to be done, right? | ||
| I mean, that's the conservative position. | ||
| But I think that, you know, the question there is the fraud and the other crimes that, you know, as I mentioned often, our 250 lawyers have identified. | ||
| And, you know, as I mentioned, too, 14 attorneys general now across the country have received lawyers letters asking them to investigate various crimes from our team of volunteer lawyers. | ||
| And as I often mention, we have two teams, George Smith and Scott Street, in two different parts of the country who are pursuing fraud complaints against Pfizer. | ||
| So, in a capitalist society, what can you do? | ||
| Pfizer is basically saying, It's willing and ready and currently is a lawless company. | ||
| So it really kind of reminds me, you know, I keep saying to you, we're in new territory, we're in a new dimension. | ||
| It reminds me a lot of Mussolini's Italy. | ||
| You know, it reminds me of the first iteration of 20th century fascism in which corporatism and the government merged, you know, for the first time in modernity in that way. | ||
| And also it reminds me of, you know, of course, Nazi Germany, where there was ThyssenKrupp and even IBM, you know, working hand in hand with this totalitarian government. | ||
| So I'm not sure what can be done beyond, and you know more about this than I do, but beyond criminal investigations, civil investigations, congressional investigations, and maybe antitrust. | ||
| Humanity will decide, and maybe this goes beyond left and right and beyond capitalism and communism, but maybe humanity will decide this company has simply gotten to be too dangerous to humanity and too illegal, and we just have to break it up, you know, or shutter it, you know, somehow. | ||
| I mean, the crimes are just so massive. | ||
| I mean, really, honestly, Steve, let me ask you, this is really unprecedented. | ||
| You know what? I'm sorry. | ||
| Once he gets settled, he's fine. | ||
| What can be the solution for a massive criminal enterprise like this? | ||
| I mean, it's really also more like mafia-linked companies in kind of the Depression. | ||
| You know, people, companies that were facilitating violence on a massive scale, what is the solution? | ||
| Let me throw it back to you. | ||
| You have, by the way, you have often talked and people have talked about regulatory capture, right? | ||
| We have, you know, people that work in these agencies go back to work for Big Pharma and they go back to the agency and this kind of regulatory capture, they kind of work together. | ||
| You're talking about something different, regulatory merger, where there's actually, like Mussolini's Italy, where it's very tough to talk, find out where the state ends and where the company begins. | ||
| As you've done, just from the evidence that you've seen, In looking at the evidence you got that was supposed to be kept for 75 years that the FDA wanted to keep for 75 years, which makes no sense. | ||
| Do you think we're in something like, let's use that as an example. | ||
| Is this more regulatory merger? | ||
| Do we actually have the merger of these entities where it's very tough to see where the government ends and the company starts? | ||
| I mean, why would the FDA Because if the FDA, if the Dale Bigtree and the people over there hadn't gone to court with that great lawyer and gotten the federal judge to reverse this, we wouldn't even be talking, we wouldn't know any of this. | ||
| This all came because a judge said, you can't keep these records for 75 years. | ||
| People need to know this information. | ||
| And then it was not, it wasn't Pfizer that went through these and kind of did summaries or came forward and said, hey, here's what we want to show you. | ||
| It took It took Naomi Wolf. | ||
| It took the Daily Cloud. It took Amy Kelly and pulling together these lawyers and the volunteers that signed up from the war room, the 3500, to put the muscle in. | ||
| So is this epitomized or manifest something that's been very different, at least in American history? | ||
| Well, that's I guess what I'm struggling to say. | ||
| It is entirely different. | ||
| I'm so sorry. It's much less... | ||
| You know, I keep saying it's not just regulatory capture, right? | ||
| It's so much beyond that. | ||
| I mean, what we've established, especially with Report 54, is that, you know, a horrific crime, you know, a crime of such massive scale has been committed. | ||
| So you really much more have to think about, you know, companies like ThyssenKrupp or companies like IBM who facilitated crimes, right? | ||
| The companies that built the You know, Cyclone B, the companies that built the gas chambers, the companies that facilitated the transport of victims in railroad cars. | ||
| And IBM, I mean, there's a very famous book about IBM and the Nazis. | ||
| And basically the whole, and this is because I read that book, that was why when there was all this kind of vaccine passport push, I was very, very, very nervous. | ||
| If it weren't for IBM with a forerunner of the computer, with punch cards, really, Helping the Nazis keep incredibly detailed records, neighborhood by neighborhood, town by town of who was a communist, who was a homosexual, who was a Jew, right? And then fast forward to who's vaccinated, who's unvaccinated. | ||
| We found out that there's a new coding that the insurance industries are using in spite of everything we've done to get rid of vaccine passports legislatively. | ||
| Still now, the CDC has rolled out a new code so that when you're unvaccinated, they know it when you check in to get medical care. | ||
| Sorry, he's just tearing apart a rag, which is his favorite thing to do. | ||
| If it weren't for IBM facilitating that, then the Nazis could not have so quickly swooped in, again, neighborhood by neighborhood and And gathered everyone up. | ||
| They had the punch cards and IBM facilitated that. | ||
| But this is much worse. | ||
| This is much more like if there were a company that made Zyklon B, which is the gas that was used to gas the Jews. | ||
| If there was a company that coordinated with the Nazis to transport the Jews and supported the policy about transporting the Jews and rolled out The spokespeople and paid them about how important it was to transport the Jews and benefited from, you know, and made billions of dollars or Deutschmarks quarter after quarter in transporting and murdering the Jews. | ||
| That's what we have here. | ||
| So, again, at these moments, you know, my kind of analytical and historical mind sort of boggles, and I just, you know, have to remind everyone that we're in completely historically uncharted territory, but it's much, much I mean, regulatory capture was, you know, what the jungle was written about. | ||
| You know, it's like, oh, are they putting, you know, cornstarch in flour? | ||
| Are they extending bread with sawdust? | ||
| You know, that's bad, right? | ||
| But this is so far beyond anything that we've seen in terms of a global criminal enterprise, changing the law, buying the legislators, buying the media to, you know, hurt Disable at scale, kill people. | ||
| And so we have to basically go beyond existing law and go beyond existing regulatory norms, you know, in order to deal with what we've got here. | ||
| But the first step, you know, the first step is accountability. | ||
| And the first step is investigations. | ||
| And that's why, you know, right now in history, we have to be very careful of You know, memory-holing these atrocities. | ||
| You know, people have to... | ||
| I mean, that's why, you know, we initiated something at Daily Cloud called the Accountability Project, where we're just inviting people to send in their stories, you know, tell their stories, the way Yad Vashem invites survivors around the world and children of survivors to just memorialize the stories of the victims of the Holocaust so those won't be lost to history. | ||
| And when we really have all of the All of the stories, all of the accounting, all of the data points, and people like Ed Dowd are amazing. | ||
| Igor Chudov is amazing. | ||
| Our volunteers, of course, are amazing in documenting just the numbers, right? | ||
| But we also need the personal stories as well. | ||
| We need to find out what happened to these 28 children. | ||
| Where are their graves if they're dead? | ||
| Are they alive? Did they survive? | ||
| Who injected the 34 children? | ||
| Actually, it was 61 children. | ||
| Who took notes when that seven-year-old had a seizure, right? | ||
| These are all crimes that have to be entered into both a criminal and a civil ledger, and we're just at the beginning of accountability. | ||
| But there also has to be an appetite for accountability. | ||
| I'm sorry, I don't know why he's so completely interested in making his appearance as an internet star. | ||
| I can say real quickly because we want to hold you through the break. | ||
| This thing about the $900 payment, what was this? | ||
| Were parents paid money to have their children into this program? | ||
| Yes, I'm really glad that I can talk about this. | ||
| After you and I discussed the infamous report 54 in which it was established that these 61 children were You know, injured or worse. | ||
| I was contacted by Shannon Joy, who's a colleague and a friend in Rochester, who's a well-known podcaster. | ||
| And she sent me a recording, which is absolutely chilling, and we'll post it, that she made, I don't know if she made it legally, I didn't make it, but, you know, good for her, in which she basically called the University of Rochester Medical Center and pretended to be a mom trying to enroll her child. | ||
| And this was in April of 2021. | ||
| In the program that the University of Rochester had begun. | ||
| And it was a program to inject children and test them. | ||
| And this was April of 2021. | ||
| I don't even know if the EUA existed. | ||
| They were looking for children as young as six months old. | ||
| Naomi, hang on one second. | ||
| I want to wait to the punchline. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| Dr. Naomi Wolf is going to join us on the other side. | ||
| Another harrowing story coming out of all this debacle next in the war room. | ||
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| Naomi Wolf. So this is somebody that heard your being on the air or heard about 54 and contacted you, and they had contacted the University of Rochester. | ||
| Give me this again because it's quite disturbing already. | ||
| Sure. So this is a colleague and acquaintance of mine, Shannon Joy. | ||
| She's a well-known podcaster out of Rochester. | ||
| She's a conservative, although that doesn't matter. | ||
| I mean, she just cares about children not being murdered. | ||
| And she had heard us speaking yesterday, I believe, about Report 54, about these 61 children who were injected unlawfully in December of 2020, starting in December of 2020. | ||
| And she contacted me with a recording she made a year before, in April of 2021, so before the EUA, certainly before the EUA for tiny people, certainly before the EUA for babies. | ||
| And she was responding, she was pretexting, you know, in the sense that my husband, who's a security consultant who pretexts as part of his job, but, you know, like people in intelligence will pretend to be someone else. | ||
| Well, Project Veritas will pretend to be someone else. | ||
| So she pretended to be calling the University of Rochester Medical Center in order to enroll her child in this program that they were advertising in which, and it was in the local media, in which they were offering $900 to $1,000 each to parents to bring their child in to be experimented on with COVID vaccines and in other ways related to COVID. And so she wanted, she's a reporter, she wanted to get more information. | ||
| So there's this recording of her calling the person answering the phone, whose name is Don, and Shannon is like, I've got a son. | ||
| Can I bring him in? Is it true you're going to give me $900 or $1,000? | ||
| How much do parents get paid? | ||
| And Don is like, yeah, it's $900 or $1,000 each. | ||
| And Shannon, to her credit, said, my son has mental, I'm sorry, medical problems. | ||
| Is that going to rule him out? | ||
| And Don said, no, you know, like you can go ahead and bring him in. | ||
| And then Don absolutely appeared to lie to Shannon. | ||
| And Don, you know, representing this program at the University of Rochester Medical Center said that if something happened to the child in the course of the experiment on the child, all of his medical costs would be covered by the university. | ||
| And we know that that, you know, isn't true. | ||
| And she also said, you know, then Shannon said, well, are there any side effects? | ||
| And Don said, it's like a flu shot. | ||
| And so every single thing about it was chilling, but even more chilling is that Dawn told Shannon that the program at Rochester was only 150 children and that they were just part of a much larger program at trial sites across the country where children were being injected experimentally. | ||
| Remember, at this point, there was no EUA for six-month-old babies. | ||
| I don't think at this point there was an EUA for under Under 12-year-olds, certainly not under 5-year-olds. | ||
| She said that there were about 1,000 children enrolled in this program being injected. | ||
| It's still up. | ||
| I looked at the University of Rochester Medical Center and the offer is still up for $500 to $900 each. | ||
| It actually says it doesn't matter how young your family member is. | ||
| You can bring your family member in. | ||
| And the other creepy thing, of course, you know, we tried to enroll. | ||
| And the other super creepy thing is that it only asks if you're Hispanic or not Hispanic. | ||
| That's the only question it asks about race. | ||
| And so I think that what that's set up to do is to attract desperate, you know, immigrants who are trying to feed their kids. | ||
| And the other unbelievably creepy thing that came out of this recording is that this is so sad. | ||
| Shannon also rightly, she did such a good job as an undercover reporter, she rightly asked, well, what's the makeup, you know, of the people who've been calling to try to enroll their children in this program, down to six month old babies, right, for them to be injected with this experimental injection. | ||
| And Dawn said with some frustration that most of the callers had been suburban white women. | ||
| In other words, this was April of 2021, the height of the propaganda Moms and dads were being told, you know, you're exposing your child. | ||
| Your child's going to die if you don't get a COVID shot, but they're not eligible yet. | ||
| You know, oh, poor you. | ||
| You have to mask them until they're eligible. | ||
| They can't play with their friends until they're eligible. | ||
| And so the women who were most propagandized, you know, who were who were most targeted, who are most kind of embracing of the vaccine religion, were calling desperately trying to Get their tiny children to be injected in this experimental way under a netting of lies by the University of Rochester Medical Center. | ||
| And to this day, there's an offer of $900 to $1,000 per child all the way down to six-month-old babies to inject them experimentally. | ||
| Naomi, we've got to bounce, but I want everybody, where's the book right now? | ||
| I want everybody to get a copy of this and share it or gift it to somebody. | ||
| And then where do people go to find out more of the work you're doing in the more recent reports and to sign on to put their shoulder to the wheel to push this out? | ||
| Thank you. You can go to Amazon and go look for the War Room Daily Cloud Pfizer Documents Research eBook. | ||
| And please do. | ||
| It's still in the top 30, but we have to get it back up into the top 10 to really continue to break through. | ||
| And we also just need the truth to come out. | ||
| You can also download a PDF on dailycloud.io and really, you know, watch the Project Veritas clips and read this ebook side by side, because they really are two sides of the same coin, a murderous, genocidal What can I even call it? | ||
| A corporation aiming to hurt our kids, to disable us as Americans and as human beings. | ||
| We have to hold them accountable. | ||
| And now, I mean, I'll just say, and then I will let you go, but now it becomes clear that we're at the tip of the iceberg of finding out about really a network of trafficking children's bodies experimentally. | ||
| And I want to know who these three American children were who are experimenting on and where else this is happening. | ||
| Naomi Wolf, thank you. | ||
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| There's a lot of breaking news. | ||
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| Go check it out. We'll be back live here on Real America's Voice. | ||
| 10 a.m. Monday morning. | ||
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