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Jan. 30, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2480: The Created Crisis' Of The Elite Left
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
This is the primal stream of a dying regime.
unidentified
Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb.
steve cortes
Patriots, tragically massive corporate layoffs.
They are accelerating, especially in the tech space.
But one job that's very much in demand?
Being a repo man. Because Americans cannot afford their cars.
Let's look at the numbers in a chalk talk.
Last year, 2022, Americans lost $1 trillion in real disposable income that was the worst percentage drop since the Great Depression, making it incredibly hard for Americans to deal with rising interest rates and more expensive loans on things like automobiles.
Car payments $1,000 a month or higher, that's now 16 % of all auto loans, all-time high.
For context, three years ago that number was only 6%, which translates into a giant jump in the percentage of Americans who are severely delinquent in their auto loans, meaning they haven't paid in three months.
We just put in a number of almost 6 % there, which is worse than the levels of the Great Recession of 2008-2009.
Patriots, these numbers, this economic reality makes it imperative that the House GOP hold the line regarding the debt ceiling.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to connect that, people's personal lives, the debt ceiling, what you just saw on Ben Burkwam's footage of coming up to invade the United States of America and the Ukraine.
And only Steve Cortez can tie all that together.
steve cortes
Steve Cortez. It is all interconnected.
And by the way, this is going to be a really busy economic week, not so much today, but the rest of the week.
We have a slew of corporate earnings, Steve.
We have the Fed midweek, and then we have the jobs report at the end of the week.
But the preponderance of the economic evidence, unfortunately, is dismal, especially for working class and lower income folks out there.
The car data alone shows that most Americans simply cannot afford a $1,000 car payment.
And that's, by the way, just the payment.
Forget about insurance and gas and any maintenance for the automobile.
So Americans are struggling mightily.
The fact that we have a greater delinquency problem right now in terms of being three months behind, that's severely delinquent.
If you're three months behind in your car payment, you are about to lose your car.
And those rates are higher now, Steve, than the 08-09 recession.
But to connect us to the two other crises, the created crises that you mentioned, the escalation in Ukraine and the border crisis, this is a time for America to focus internally.
It is a time for us to heal our country and to restore our American economy.
To connect this to the border, in a time of 21 straight months of crashing real wages, the worst streak in all of American history, the last thing America needs right now is millions of new workers flooding into this country to compete in the labor market unlawfully and unjustly against American citizens further depressing wages in this country.
And then regarding the Ukraine crisis, the last thing that America needs right now, as we are trying desperately to get our fiscal house in order, as we have this debt showdown, which is crucial because we earned the leverage of winning the House of Representatives.
The last thing America needs is to borrow mountains of money, hundreds of billions of dollars to waste on a corrupt country who is fighting another corrupt country In a war that does not involve any U.S. national interest.
So heal thyself, America.
Look internally. Protect our border.
Protect American workers.
And start to restore prosperity to regular Americans.
A huge part of that is going to be this debt ceiling showdown.
steve bannon
The prosperity is right there in front of us.
Two things we need in this debt ceiling showdown.
Two things we need to force, and we have the leverage in the House to do it, and we're going to get people numbers about where to call and who to call, is the Treasury must come forward with their financial model on exactly where the country is and where Biden regime says we're going to go.
Just show us the numbers. Show us the math.
And we need Biden.
Forced to come to the House of Representatives on a war powers resolution, Steve Cortez, to put his plan before the American people.
Let's have a vote. Put your plan on the liberation.
If you're going to liberate Crimea, let's be upfront about it.
Put it before the American people.
We believe in democracy.
Have a vote. And we move on from there.
Steve Cortez, where do people go to get all your great content, sir?
steve cortes
Yes, please find me, this Chalk Talk, and a lot more on the Twitter.
I'm at CortezSteve.
unidentified
Cortez with an ass. Appreciate it.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother. Appreciate it.
Mike Lindell joins us now.
Mike, I know we got other stuff to talk about and you're going to tee it up and we're going to talk about it.
But I just want to last time the audience left, Mediaites got up our interview on when you're sitting outside your room at the hotel.
It's the number one traffic generator at Mediite all weekend that Carrie Lakes stepped in for part of the interview.
I know you've got a lot to say, and people, I did John Frederick's radio show this morning, people, the audience still worked up.
I think what we say is that we had two, we had Maine, the party there, the pro-America first MAGA candidates, pro-Trump, flipped Maine, and we had Jeff DeWitt, a Trump-endorsed one in Arizona.
There's a lot to talk about.
And we don't have time right now to talk about it.
There's some stuff people are working on.
And Mike, I think, you know, you want to come back, you know, middle of the week or in a couple of days and talk about not just your experience, but also your takeaways from that.
And we'll get to all that.
Is that a good summary? We can say, hey, you're going to come back and we got some things to talk about, but it'll be later in the week, correct?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely. Everything with the RNC, everybody, the hope we have going forward, and anything we have that came out of there, I'd like to wait on that until the end of the week, because I have a big announcement right now that I have to talk about.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to go to this big announcement.
Andy, you're going to tell us about what you're doing tomorrow night.
So this is huge. Mike, why don't you tee it up, and then we can play it.
unidentified
Yeah, everybody, you know, I have hundreds and literally thousands of workers, and we make them my pillow right here in the USA. And...
We now have technology that came available.
It's temperature-regulating thread.
And what that is, the fabric we made now and added it to the MyPillow's patent and fill.
We now have the MyPillow 2.0.
Remember, sleep is about...it's not about firm or soft.
Everybody wants soft, but you want it to stay there.
And it's about that and temperature-regulating.
So, Steve, I've got it right here.
We have a behind-the-scenes when we made the commercial last week.
Actually, it was the week before, and I thought your audience here now gets the first chance to see the MyPillow 2.0, and we just put it up on your square on the website, the C-Bannon War Room Square, so if you have that clip, it's awesome.
steve bannon
Yeah. I tell you, Denver, let's go ahead and play the clip, and I'll have Mike come back in and tell us more about it.
mike lindell
Let's go ahead and play it. Everybody here on the War Room, the War Room Posse, we're doing one of our biggest commercial productions ever done.
It's the new MyPillow 2.0.
We're introducing it right here on the War Room.
from the back seat, the back, all day long, we're filming the making of a commercial, and you are the first ones in the country that can get the MyPillow 2.0.
unidentified
♪♪ Anybody 6'1"? I'm pretty close.
Okay. Here we go.
mike lindell
Miss makeup.
Well you look good.
unidentified
You look good.
Welcome to the MyPillow 2.0 commercial.
mike lindell
I've been sleeping on it now for over two months, and you wait till you get yours, you're gonna absolutely love it.
Use promo code WARROOM, everybody.
unidentified
And action. You're sleeping even better.
mike lindell
Feeling good. I knew you would.
MyPillow 2.0.
unidentified
He's a great name for it, huh?
mike lindell
I was supposed to say pillow, but I said MyPillow, everybody.
Remember, this has a patented fill with this new fabric technology that we didn't have back then.
unidentified
You can't even imagine anything better than a MyPillow, but we've done it with the MyPillow 2.0.
Woo!
♪♪ Cut! We got it.
mike lindell
The MyPillow 2.0, the most amazing pillow in history, and you are the first ones that can get it.
It's a buy one, get one free.
Use promo code WARROOM now.
steve bannon
Okay, Mike, so what did we just see there?
There was the making of a spot, but also the rollout of this new technology.
So buy for game. Tell us about the technology and the rollout, and then tell us about you making the spot.
unidentified
Yeah, the technology.
A lot goes into making a commercial.
It got somewhat easier when the China virus came into play, and we could do it sitting behind a desk.
But here, this was a full-on production.
We did not have the technology back when I invented MyPillow in 2004 and 2005.
This technology became available the last couple of years.
We've been working on this for a long time.
It makes the MyPillow, it makes it softer, it regulates the temperature and Nobody likes sleep interruptions, flipping it to the cool side or using your arm and all this.
My pillow covers all of that.
It takes away all those sleep interruptions.
I've never been so excited about a product launch or one of our products launch ever.
It was so much fun making this commercial.
We brought back the actors.
The actors that we had with the mirror where you open up and said, Megan, Megan, he's back.
And so we brought back that.
It was a lot of fun. I hadn't seen them in about, I don't know, four or five years.
And all the crew together, you know, this is, it took all day.
And right now they're doing, down in Florida at our other studios, they're doing all the testimonials.
People really get the MyPillow 2.0.
They try it out.
They do all these things.
And then we'll have the testimonial.
So you're getting a sneak preview here on the War Room that probably never happened before.
Kind of like a commercial within a commercial.
I want your audience, Steve, to try this.
There's nothing better.
I believe it's the best pillow in history and the best product in history.
Because it helps you so much.
It was just awesome making the commercial.
I haven't done a commercial like this in about three years since all this started in our country.
There's a little fake mustache.
They were going to have a fake mic in there, but of course I like doing all that stuff myself.
steve bannon
I want to go back to the pillow because people don't often see the businessman side of you.
You got the technology originally and you're selling them out of the trunk of your car at these flea markets and now you're a billion dollar business.
How long have you been thinking about...
Mike and I talk on time.
He's always coming out with new products.
He's always tinkering with things around the edge.
This is not tinkering around the edge.
This is kind of a reimagining fundamentally of the MyPillow itself.
When did you start thinking about this and really working on the technology?
unidentified
Yeah, this was actually about a year ago, and it was my son and others in the company that started talking about this.
And then I said, well, bring me some options back.
And this patented pill that my pill had, that didn't change.
But this thread, this temperature-regulating thread that's out there now, and I don't even know how long it's been out there, but we definitely didn't.
It's not in any pillows that I know of.
And we, it's a company we work with.
And then we started, it took months to get, okay, come up with a fabric.
So the fabric is all this technology and the thread that makes this fabric.
It actually feels smoother now.
It's, I mean, it regulates that temperature.
Steve, then we had to get a machine that does the cutting.
You have to have a better technology to be able to cut this different fabric.
So that was, you know, we bought that, and I bought that.
It was a hundred and some thousand dollars.
I bought it just on the come.
I mean, it took months to get this machine, and whether it worked or not, we didn't even know at the time.
I wanted to have it. I didn't want to delay it.
I don't want anything to delay anything if it's going to work.
It all came together in December of this year.
And then you've got to start making the commercial.
But what we did is we sent out all the pillows to people to try.
And I tried it myself now for two months.
It is the most amazing sleep.
One of the things that people don't realize that my pillow is different is The patented fill interlocks.
That's patented. And you move it and it holds that height.
Sleep is about height.
It's not a distance from your head to your bed.
It's not about people.
Everybody wants soft, but they want it to stay there, not go down like down pillows.
And then you combine that with temperature regulating technology, you have the best fill in history.
steve bannon
Mike, hang on for one second.
We're getting more of this after a short commercial break.
We're also going to go to the Vatican with Ben Harnwell.
And guess what? Mike Allen's Axios leading with artificial intelligence.
How did it start to overwhelm us?
All next in the war room Your host Stephen K back Okay, by the way, I want to make an announcement make sure everybody understands this is that Mike Lindell is gonna be because I don't think it's gotten out there enough Mike Lindell is gonna be on Jimmy Kimmel again tomorrow night Jimmy Kimmel actually wants a return bout, Lindell.
I thought he got beat up enough last time.
unidentified
It's going to be fun at this time, everybody.
He said I couldn't come on unless I was in this claw game because I'm not vaccinated.
So there's going to be a lot of humor and a lot of back and forth.
We've been going back and forth for almost three quarters of a year now on whether to come on his show or not.
So it'll be interesting.
steve bannon
It'll be a lot of fun. How many millions of views does your YouTube, the time you're on Jimmy Kimmel, how many YouTube views does that have, sir?
I know it's a couple of million.
unidentified
Oh, no, it says well over 5 million, but if you spread that out, it's over 10 million.
I've talked to their producer, I believe it was their number one show of that year.
You know, millions tuned in to see that.
And this is the same type thing as people say, Mike, why do you want to go on there?
Why do you want to go on there? I want to get the word out no matter what it takes.
Remember, everybody, when I ran for RNC chair, Fox wouldn't even let me on for that.
So when you can't get on other stations and you get the word out about the election crime in our country, you know, it's tough.
I don't like being attacked, but if that's what it takes to help save our country, I'll go on Jimmy Kimmel every day of the week and get attacked by the media over and over again because it's worth it.
steve bannon
By the way, so Jimmy Kimmel tomorrow night, that's 11.30, correct?
It starts, it's ABC's late night show.
I think it starts after the local news, so it's 11.30 Eastern Standard Time.
We'll make sure tomorrow we're going to promote this so everybody can see Mike Lindell.
Mike, you tell a great story.
And this is the power of the effort you're putting back on MyPillow 2.0.
You've always told me this story.
When you first started to stop selling them out of the trunk of the car at the flea markets, you went and you were going to do these home shopping shows.
And, of course, they wanted to do actors.
He said, no, I've got to do it myself. You're fully scripted.
It's just not you. It's not working.
And then you come off script.
And I guess the professional said, no, you're the worst guy in the world.
You won't sell a pillow.
This is not the way you do things.
And you've become the biggest pillow salesman ever with these great products.
But is it true? Is the first time you ever used actors, it just wasn't Mike Lindell looking to a camera?
Was the time that you used these actors with the one that you opened up the mirror in the bathroom?
unidentified
That's correct. In fact, when we did that commercial, I believe it was about four or five years ago, about halfway through the commercial, I said to my two gals, my CMO, and I said, wow, these two are really good.
They should be actors. And they said, Mike, they are.
But what I want everybody to know is we gave them the products.
But we gave them the products just like they were just like they were regular you know anybody and and now we brought them back and they actually had the products then to use for the last month so not but they're not only they're actors but they're actors that are surprised how great the products are you know what I mean and so but yeah every other commercial we've never used actors this one is so I just wanted to get the message across the best it could possibly be, so I wanted them to come back.
That's one of our most watched commercials in history was that one with the mirrors open.
It's going to be, wait until you see the commercial.
It comes out in a couple weeks, but you guys got to see back.
I think it's probably the first time, Steve, anyone got to see backstage of a commercial or the behind the scenes, especially one of mine.
I don't think we've done something like that before, but we thought we'd do it here for your great audience.
steve bannon
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if people know the professionalism of all the, you know, it's like a Hollywood shoot.
So MyPillow 2.0, you can get it on our square, go to MyPillow.com, promo code WARM, go right to our square, they've got it up, buy one, get one free.
And you're on Jimmy Kimmel tomorrow night, Mike Lindell's back on the road, off the chain at the Jimmy Kimmel Show.
I do want to just leave, Mike, with people that are—and I think you saw it up close and personal.
I, quite frankly, was shocked by what I saw.
And it's not the vote.
It's deeper than the vote.
And these state parties need help.
They need assistance. There's a lot going on behind the scenes.
And later in the week, after you've heard of Kimmel, you're going to come on Thursday or Friday, and we're going to talk more openly and directly to this audience and to the Lindale TV and, of course, the Real America's Voice about initial thoughts of a number of people coming out of last week.
Correct, sir? Absolutely.
unidentified
There's so many good things, but there is a lot of disturbing things, everybody.
I'll have a plan where all of you can get involved going forward.
I'm going to be going to a state, Steve.
I'm not missing a beat.
Starting this week, I'm going to be flying into at least three states towards the end of the week.
We'll probably do our show right from one of those states, and we'll have a great report of what's going on.
But one of the things I want to say is we need to hold the RNC accountable.
They did say, I will work with Mike Lindell.
I can't wait to work with Mike Lindell.
Well, when you work with me, it's election crime, not a weak word like election integrity.
It's called the election crime.
We're going to talk later in the week.
We're setting up the election crime unit, Steve.
So everybody stay tuned.
steve bannon
It's going to be big. Yeah, I think this is something that we've got to figure out the direction of this because I think people are very disappointed, not just about the vote, but the way the whole thing, the way I said it was on the John Fredericks, it's like you realize now the people associated with it are really the kids who were on student council back in junior high school and the theater club, right? There's nothing wrong with the theater club or the student council, but You know, if you're a brawler, that wasn't your first pick as a club.
And right now, Mike, as you know, I think we need brawlers, right?
You got to set this thing right.
And you saw the enormous outpouring.
Yeah, go ahead, sir. Right.
unidentified
Well, yeah. And that's what, it was very, it was awesome and divine, I believe a divine appointment that Rasmussen polls came out on Thursday, everybody, last Thursday, and it had me almost doubling both Rana and Harmeet.
So what does that say?
It says the people want not only change, but what do I represent in that change?
I represent that you're going to get the best return on your investment for big donors.
You're going to get these elections fixed.
It takes a businessman to do that, and we've got to hold them accountable.
But the people put it right out there.
They couldn't deny that.
And Steve, the media, they didn't know what to do with that.
They go, oh, Mike only got four votes.
Well, the people that voted in the end, They decided to go against the people's wishes.
What our country wanted, they decided to vote the other way.
So they're the ones that are going, the media's going, gee, what do we do with this now?
We can't even attack Mike for only getting four votes.
We should be going after them because they didn't listen to the people.
Now, you know what, Steve? This should be said on your Fox News of the world, but they don't.
And that's disturbing.
And so we're going to get it out here pretty soon.
We're going to have every audience in the country I hear on War Room because the other ones don't talk about things.
steve bannon
Yeah. Mike, honor to have you on here.
How do people get to you on social media and Lindell TV? Yeah, well, go to get, download Frank Speech, everybody.
unidentified
Download the app. You can see me.
I'm on Getter.
I'm on Truth Social.
And reach me.
You can watch me there. I'm even back on Twitter, but I'm using Twitter, you know, to get the word out about all the other platforms, too.
So you can see me at, I put the word out.
We've all got to put the word out on all the social media platforms, even the bad sucker bucks Facebook.
But because we've got to keep, our voice is getting bigger, Steve, and we're going to win this.
steve bannon
Jimmy Kimmel has Mike Lindell, I don't know, round three or four, tomorrow night.
We'll make sure that we promote this strongly so we can see it.
One thing I would guarantee you, it will be wild.
Mike Lindell, thank you so much.
And thank you for putting yourself through what Jimmy Kimmel's going to put you through, whatever it's going to be.
I'm sure there'll be another trial.
unidentified
Yeah, and everybody, you can get the Frank speech app.
We have the clip up there, and I put it out on Getter and stuff.
There's the clip of me and Jimmy going back and forth for five.
It's a five-minute clip of over the last nine months, everybody.
You've got to watch that because, you know, Jimmy said, you know, I watched Lindale TV for hours on end.
I mean, this goes back and forth.
And by the way, everybody, I'm going to be inside of a claw game, inside of a, you know, where they grab the stuff because he doesn't want, you have to be vaccinated there so he's looking for his protection.
Well, Steve, maybe I feel pretty safe in there because I don't want any shedding, you know, I don't know.
steve bannon
No, no, no, people, the insanity of these shows, I turned down Bill Maher.
Be front of the show because it said we've got to be vaxxed.
It said not happening. I'm not vaxxed and my crew's not vaxxed.
So if that's not good enough, then we'll take a Pasadena on that.
But no, if you're not vaxxed, they freak out.
Mike Lindell, honored to have you on here.
Honored to be the platform that we launch, MyPillow 2.0 with advanced technology.
Thank you very much, sir. Yeah, thanks everybody. Do I have Ben Burkwan? Ben, excuse me, Ben Harnwell, the Ben Burkwan of the Vatican. Ben, before, I'm going to take a break and come back in a second, but here's a question I've got.
It's called the sleepwalkers.
Everybody talks about the diplomats that were the sleepwalkers into World War I. Is that what's happening in Europe right now?
Are the diplomats and the globalists sleepwalking into a massive war in Crimea, sir?
ben harnwell
Yes, Steve, that's exactly what's happening.
There's some debate as to whether these tanks, the Abrams tanks, will be operational in time for the famous spring offensive that we're expecting Vladimir Putin to launch.
But whether they're operational or whether they're not, the escalation now is tipping beyond the point where either side, even if it were to want to, could pull back.
Before there is all-out kinetic war.
Yes, Steve, we are absolutely sleepwalking into World War III. Okay, we're going to return a short break.
steve bannon
We're going to go back to the Vatican to talk to Ben Harnwell about all of it.
Also, Axios, the corporate media Mike Allen's Corporatist Media finally woke up to the fact, their lead story today is about artificial intelligence.
Like, wow, this thing may be so far advanced.
Have we, like, missed it here?
Should we regulate some of this?
What we've been talking about for a couple of years here, Joe Allen, our editor of all things, transhumanist, will also join us.
The awakening of places like The Atlantic Magazine, The New Yorker, The New York Times, Axios.
Uh-oh. Chatbot GPT got him unexpectedly.
All next in the war room.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Back.
steve bannon
Okay, we have Amory Slaughter.
Ben Harnwell, who's talking about the tanks with iron crosses on them, the Leopard 2, you know, the bad optics, kind of the bad optics maybe having the panzers when we're on the eve of the 80th anniversary of the surrender of a 300,000-man army, what was left of it, at Stalingrad, which takes place tomorrow.
And she says, boy, you know, and we hope the issues are going to go into Ukraine, and we hope...
We certainly hope they don't go into Russia.
Ben Harnwell, you're at the Vatican.
Tied all together. The globalists are on the march.
Are they not, sir? They are, Steve.
ben harnwell
Even though they arguably took a step backwards at Davos with a lack of momentum and a lot of heads of government that weren't there, I think it's more of a step back in order to re-solidify rather than a step back to retreat.
But talking about globalists is a perfect segue into my favourite subject.
You know how dear to my heart Our sociopathic overlords are.
And it's the degree of lies that they tell.
The shameless gaslighting.
Here's a quote that Ron Klein, the outgoing White House Chief of Staff, came out with over the weekend, saying that he was rather happy with Biden's immense successes.
And he said that Biden had managed the largest land war in Europe since Truman.
as part of his list of accomplishments.
Now, I wasn't aware, correct me if I'm wrong, right?
I wasn't aware that Joe Biden had ever said publicly or anyone close to him said that he, this is the guy, right, who's not even remotely with it anymore.
This is the guy that's managing this war in Ukraine.
Of course, if he were managing it, it would explain a lot why the Ukrainian side seems to be endlessly failing.
But here's the point.
They're never going to tell you the truth.
Another blinder that came out today was Boris Johnson claimed that Putin on the phone had threatened to drop a missile on him and to kill him.
Steve, I'm going to go out and I'm going to...
Go on the record. I do not believe Vladimir Putin said any such thing.
I will wait for any proof or evidence that Putin said this to Boris Johnson.
But I think it's more likely that in the passage of time, a civil servant who would have been listening to that call will come out and say, actually, Putin never said any such thing.
But it's an illustration of the extent that our globalist leaders are willing to go to in order to pick up on your expression just a few moments.
Also, again, to sleepwalk the world into a further world war.
Only, of course, this time a full kinetic war would be between nuclear powers, between Russia and NATO. And again, our leaders, so-called leaders, are coming out with one distraction after another.
Boris Johnson again last week at Davos said that he doesn't think that...
That Putin is going to use nuclear missiles.
He said that.
He's drawn his red lines.
We continue to push against them.
So because he hasn't done it so far, he's not going to do it in the future.
And you just live wondering to yourself, what planet are these people living on?
But to go from one world war to a purported civil war here in Rome, in the Vatican, behind me now, Here's another example of how you'll never get the straight truth out of the mainstream media.
There is an article by Ross Douthat who is probably the journalist of the New York Times most to the sense, I mean he's not an out-and-out communist, which is why everyone at the New York Times likes to sort of laugh at him behind his back.
But he's come up with this article today, I don't know if the guys in Denver might be able to put it up while I'm talking, which is headlined, The War Between Catholic Cardinals.
And the opening words suggests that with the death of Pope Benedict, the opening salvos of the Catholic Church's civil war have been deployed, specifically referring to that secret Anonymous memo by Cardinal Pell, whose authorship was made known by the journalist who leaked it, Sandro Magister, a day or so after he died.
I'm going to go into the article, but to do that, I am going to just read out an excerpt.
For all their undeniable conservatism, a consistent goal for Benedict, as well as John Paul II, was some kind of synthesis for the modern church, in which the changes ushered in by the Second Vatican Council could be integrated with the traditional commitments of Catholicism.
Now, longstanding Viewers of the War Room will home in as I did on that expression and say, really?
I don't know about you, Steve, but in my circle of acquaintances, I don't know anybody who thinks John Paul II or Benedict were conservative.
The best you could say about them is that they were more or less just about Catholic at a push.
But here's the conceit that the New York Times is playing here in order to portray The Civil War, contrasting Cardinal Pell's memo with its analogue by American Cardinal Robert McElroy, who wrote an article in this week's edition of America magazine, which is the American Jesuits' main organ of pushing up heresy and dissent.
And there is, admittedly, a certain symmetry between these two opposites, symmetrical opposites between these two cardinals.
But it doesn't make a civil war.
And the reason why there isn't a civil war, and there can't be in the Catholic Church, is because the Pope, air quotes, the Pope has all the cards.
If you're a priest, or you're a member of a religious community, or you're a bishop, or if you're a cardinal, Then you, whether you, in your heart, accept that Pope Francis is a valid pope or whether you don't, you have to follow through on the obedience which is expected of you in that position.
And it is impossible to have a civil war against a figure that you're under obedience to.
Which leads us to, I think, what is really happening in the Catholic Church and the undercurrents, is rather than any kind of civil war, which I repeat isn't going to take place, at least not in the formal institutional church, what is more likely to take place, and we've mentioned this before, Steve, is a schism, which is a formal split of Catholics who will say, for one reason or another, we do not recognise this figure of Pope.
How they will do this, I don't know.
Archbishop Lefebvre, the French Archbishop, tried this in the 1980s.
But basically you pull out of the formal Catholic structure and you ordain priests and you consecrate bishops without the Vatican's consent.
Now, I happen to think if more bishops had supported Archbishop Lefebvre, the Catholic Church wouldn't be in the position that it's in today.
The thesis of this article, just to finish off here, is exactly what I said on this show.
I think the day from here, the very day Benedict died, which is that this now puts People who always maintained that Benedict was the true Pope in a very difficult position because it forces them to say now at this point whether the papal throne is empty or whether they're going to do a U-turn and rejoin spiritually, interiorly in the Catholic hierarchy.
There are a lot of people, and this is the thesis of this article, there are a lot of people that said more or less openly that they don't recognize Pope Francis as a valid pope, saying that Pope Benedict's resignation was faulty.
What those people are going to do now, I think, will give some degree of momentum to the possibility of racism moving forward.
steve bannon
Ben, you're going to get much more engaged in our Ukraine coverage as we ramp it up.
How do people get to you? How do they get to the War Room Roam show and all your content?
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve. I'm exclusively on Getter.
My profile is simply my surname, at Harnwell.
I've got a lot of great stuff there over the weekend if folk wants to check it out.
And perhaps, Steve, I can come back later on this week because the real question, and this is what I've been sort of talking with people over the last few days is about, is this idea, the words only lightly referred to here in this Ross Douthat article, but The question is, is this principle, this idea called sedivacantism, which is that the papal throne is empty.
That is really the concept which no one wants to talk about, certainly not in public.
And that's the question I think that's most important.
lay Catholic and even bishops are going to have to deal with moving forward.
steve bannon
Of course it's the war room.
Of course we're going to talk about it.
The papal throne being empty and this whole concept of schism.
So we're going to get into it deeply.
Ben Harnwell, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here. Thank you for getting under the vacuum today.
Do this hit. Thank you. So the New York Times is now hip to some of these concepts with this column yesterday in the New York Times, the Sunday edition.
We got a cold open from Joe Allen.
New York Times, other people are getting savvy on artificial intelligence way ahead of where everybody thought.
They did not listen to Joe Allen and were not watching the worm.
Let's go ahead and play the cold open.
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I'll bring Joe in. They are hyper-realistic video and audio recordings that use artificial intelligence and deep learning to create fake content, or deep fakes.
The US government has grown increasingly concerned about their potential to be used to spread disinformation and commit crimes.
That's because the creators of deepfakes have the power to make people say or do anything, at least on our screens.
Most Americans have no idea how far the technology has come in just the last four years, or the danger, disruption, and opportunities that come with it.
You know, I do all my own stunts.
Obviously. I also do my own music.
This is not Tom Cruise.
It's one of a series of hyper-realistic deep fakes of the movie star that began appearing on the video sharing app TikTok earlier this year.
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This is a critical step forward in an era where AI and its implications are taking center stage in public discourse.
We must collaborate with international partners like the Israeli government to ensure that the United States maintains a leadership role in AI research and development and responsibly explores the many possibilities evolving technologies provide.
The United States-Israel Artificial Intelligence Center Act will allow us to tap into the expertise of both countries and draw upon each other's resources to explore and develop cutting-edge AI advancements.
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steve bannon
Okay, we're going to take a short break.
We're going to bring Joe Allen in who compiled that clips, that cold open, to discuss it.
But AI should not be a shock to you how far advanced it is.
It's a shock to the mainstream media.
And number one, one of the reasons it's shocked It's their jobs first they're going to go.
These low-level, these mid-level writing jobs, artistic jobs, graphic.
Now all of a sudden it's huge. AI is huge.
They just started taking blue-collar jobs.
That would be incorrect.
But the jobs themselves is only the smallest element on the danger of what has been created.
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Joe Allen, all of a sudden, The mainstream media is a meltdown over AI because now they realize it's going to cut away a bunch of their jobs.
But that's not really the danger, is it, sir?
joe allen
I think the dangers go way, way beyond just the loss of a few white-collar jobs, although that's going to be significant.
You know, in the cold open, we just saw the representative Jake Auchincloss.
His brief house speech was written by ChatGPT.
They kind of did it as a, you could say it was a sort of a stunt or a ploy to get attention, or at least to put attention on the issue of not being able to tell the difference between a boring house speech written by a person and an AI. He's going on to talk about the joint US-Israel Center for AI Research.
These sorts of organizations are springing up everywhere, some of which to look at how to control AI, most of which looking at how to accelerate the development and integrate that development into society.
So the US and EU I now have an artificial intelligence agreement to accelerate the integration of AI into everything from climate change modeling to agriculture to medicine.
And in all these cases, basically, it's just looking to find the most efficient ways To work out any problems using AI, but it also means that that sort of human AI symbiosis that we're always talking about is being accelerated with the assistance of various governmental organizations and, of course, the corporations pushing it.
Over the weekend, as you had mentioned, Steve, a ton of different articles came out fretting about this problem of artificial intelligence.
You had Maureen Dowd at the New York Times.
The title of the article is AI Actually Insipid Until It's Actually Insidious.
I'm not sure if she wrote that headline or if the AI did, but basically her argument is she's looking at the kind of arc of of transhumanist ambition.
She's, of course, spent time with the guys at OpenAI, and she's talking about how they hold a transhumanist sort of mindset without ever using the word.
They hold this idea that machines will soon be more intelligent than human beings.
A lot of her article is written by ChatGPT.
She's just asking various questions and fills up the column space with That GPT content, so you could say that she's already ahead of the curve on that.
But she concludes by saying, just very briefly, all of this is just kind of fun and games until AI is sentient.
And I think that that's probably among the most dangerous sorts of notions that's being pushed.
This idea, she appears to at least entertain the idea.
Certainly a lot of the roboticists and artificial intelligence programmers seem to entertain and be pushing towards that idea.
This notion that these machines could actually be conscious has become somewhat prevalent.
It's a sort of religious belief.
And so, you know, there are other bits, too.
Axios is talking about how AI doesn't—the technology is rocketing ahead of the regulation.
This is 100 percent true.
But the people who are talking about regulating it, such as Jake Auchincloss, are going to want to steer artificial intelligence in a very liberal direction, right?
steve bannon
So when they talk about AI at a big space— But hang on a second.
Because I'm going to get into the AI ethics deeper when we have more time this afternoon.
What's happened in AI in chat GPT is illustrative of what else is going on.
Remember, it's the convergence of five what I call verticals or technologies onto a point.
Okay? That's quantum computing.
Advanced chip design.
Number two would be advanced chip design slash nanotechnology.
The third would be biotech and CRISPR, right?
Bioengineering. The fourth would be regenerative robotics.
And the fifth would be artificial general intelligence.
They're all in a tizzy now.
They're all worked up because when it was dropped to Davos, it was so much farther.
Ahead than they realized.
And this is something we've been preaching now for a couple of years.
However, ladies and gentlemen, all those other four verticals are also farther along than they're coming out and talking about.
The convergence of this is the overwhelming power.
If you think AI, and trust me, that's going to be overwhelming.
And now they're talking about these, how do you regulate it?
And Joanne's going to get into later when we bring it back about, yes, they're going to do it to the progressive liberal side.
That's just one speed bump on the highway.
On this side of that convergence, the transhumanist model, the singularity, is homo sapien.
Okay? On the other side of that divide is homo sapien 2.0, leading to other things.
That is the massive inflection point of the human race.
And it is upon us.
And I realize you're going, oh my god, I got the debt ceiling, I got the southern border, I got the Ukraine, you know, I got the RNC's, what am I going to do?
Well, hey, that's why divine providence Right?
And its wisdom has you in this veil of tears at this time and place watching and listening to this show.
You are the vanguard of what's going to say we are not going to do this.
Okay? Joe Allen, real quickly before I get you back on this afternoon, where do people go get your great writings on all this?
joe allen
You can find everything at jobot.xyz, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z on social media, and warroom.org under the transhumanism tab.
And real quick, Steve, I just want to give a quick plug.
Our own Frank Milley, has an article up at Real Clear Politics.
It's an editorial about ChatGPT, you know, destroying the columnist dig.
So it's also up on my social media for anybody interested.
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It's amazing. Frank is incredible, and this thing is amazing.
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