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Jan. 24, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2464
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boris epshteyn
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mike davis
08:29
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steve bannon
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wesley hunt
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adam schiff
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kash patel
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miranda devine
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nicolle wallace
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jake tapper
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steve bannon
This is the primal stream of a dying regime.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
I got a free shot of all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
nicolle wallace
And specifically, a $10 million payment Daripaska allegedly gave Manafort.
As Russian oligarchs go, Deripaska is on the Mount Rushmore of oligarchs.
In 2018, Deripaska was sanctioned by the U.S. government for, among other things, money laundering, threatening the lives of business rivals, and taking part in extortion and racketeering, as well as ordering the murder of a businessman and for having links to Russian organized crime.
Sounds like a great guy. Then in 2021, the FBI launched dramatic simultaneous raids on Deripaska's homes in Washington, D.C. and New York, raids that were part of an FBI investigation into whether Deripaska had violated those sanctions.
Then last fall, we learned that Deripaska was actually indicted, charged with conspiring to violate those sanctions.
We all know the old saying, follow the money.
That is particularly true when you're dealing with mega wealthy Russian oligarchs close to Putin.
Except now that money trail has led to a stunning new place.
Charles McGonigal, who had been before he retired in the year 2018, remember that year, the special agent in charge of the FBI's counterintelligence division in New York, who had supervised and participated in investigations of Russian oligarchs, including Mr.
Deripaska. McGonigal has been, quote, indicted on charges that he conspired to violate U.S. sanctions on Russia by taking secret payments from Deripaska in return for investigating a rival oligarch.
In plain English, one of the highest-ranking FBI officials who sat at the crossroads of some of the most sensitive counterintelligence Investigations into Russia and Russian-related investigations now stands accused of getting paid by a Russian oligarch he was supposed to be investigating.
We should note...
McGonigal is facing additional charges out of DC.
From the Washington Post, quote, the twin indictments are a black eye for the FBI, alleging that one of their most senior and trusted intelligence officials was taking secret cash payments and undermining the Bureau's overall intelligence gathering mission.
Let's see if this ends up on Jim Jordan's agenda for his new committee and his new Congress.
adam schiff
This is Kevin McCarthy once again catering to the most right-wing ailments of his conference and doing the will of the former president as well.
He doesn't like the fact that I led the impeachment of Donald Trump for withholding hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid from Ukraine while that nation was at war in order to essentially extort them into helping his political campaign.
That's too bad.
We're going to continue to hold McCarthy accountable, Trump accountable, and for him to mess with the Intelligence Committee this way to try to dictate the Democratic representation on the committee, and not just essentially tear down the functioning of that committee, but build up a new committee on the select committee on the weaponization of the federal government.
These should be seen as hand in hand.
Tearing down legitimate committees that are doing important national security work, building up these bogus committees that he's going to seat the right-wing crazies.
And it's just a further destruction of our norms and, I think, deterioration of our democracy.
steve bannon
Monday, 23 January, Year of Our Lord, 2023.
Of course, welcome to the most right-wing elements of the MAGA movement.
I want to bring in Boris Epstein.
We've got Mike Davis, Miranda Devine, all going to join us.
Boris, I know you've...
Have stepped out of a meeting to do this, but I had to ask you today, and thank you for doing that, about the situation with the FBI, the senior FBI agent in the New York office, which was the center of the Russian collusion situation.
What are your first thoughts about this, sir?
boris epshteyn
My first thoughts are that karma is a tough entity to deal with.
Let's put it that way. You know, there's a word that I want to use, but I don't want to It's an honor to be with you, honor to be with the war room posse.
Here's the bottom line.
This quote-unquote official, McGueno, was effectively the cornerstone and the birthstone of the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax.
He's the one that started the process that culminated in tens and tens of millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars, of American money spent, of taxpayer money spent, of money spent on lawyers, of a complete and total witch hunt that, let's just be honest, was fully geared toward preventing President Trump from running and being successful as the president of our country.
So what you have here now is the touchstone of the Russia-Russia-Russia hoax being arrested for colluding with dot-dot-dot Russia.
It does not get more, frankly, more unbelievable in some ways, but more expected in other ways than this.
And it's the same thing as we've seen with the documents.
Joe Biden said, oh, how could you be so responsible?
The Democrats going out on TV and all clutching their pearls, oh, this was so terrible.
President Trump apparently maybe had a document or two at Mar-a-Lago, which is fully secured under protection.
By the way, President Trump, of course, is doing everything correctly and by the law.
And then now we find that Biden and his team were hiding the fact that he had documents from the DOJ and the FBI, where he had actual classified documents, which no one's disputing.
So what you see now is the unraveling of these attacks against President Trump, unraveling of these attacks against MAGA, and this arrest today of a senior FBI official is a major example of that.
steve bannon
But I just don't believe it stops with this one official.
How do we know? How are we not going to have a formal investigation of the FBI now?
Because they sold us out to the Russian oligarchs, the financiers.
Of Putin's KGB. I mean, they sit there and whine all day long about what's happening in Ukraine.
The problem is Putin and the KGB guys around him and these oligarchs.
This guy took money from the oligarchs.
Trump just didn't have one presidency stolen in 2020.
The 2016 was stolen because of everything he did, two-thirds of his time was beating back the administrative and deep state, and now we know one of the senior people in this was working for the Russians, sir.
boris epshteyn
It goes further, Steve, to uncover for clear consumption by the American people, by the media, including the mainstream media, which, let's be honest, Biden has been destroyed by the mainstream media for the last several weeks.
I mean, you've got these robust powerhouse stories in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and now the story of this arrest and various charges, not just charges on violating sanctions, but now, let's be honest, clear as day, SB &S charges against the former head of a major division of the New York office of the FBI, what you're seeing is that those who conspired to attack President Trump,
those who conspired to attack his supporters, conspired to attack his senior advisers, conspired to attack MAGA, they are now coming under the type of microscope, and their wrongdoings are being uncovered To truly lay bare the fact there was an absolute conspiracy against President Trump, a conspiracy against MAGA, and one can only hope that chickens are coming home to roost.
steve bannon
Ron Klain stepping down.
They had an article last week how he was going to stick around and take it all the way through, at least go to July 4th of this year, which is normally the cutoff for someone who's going to stick around for the whole campaign.
But all of a sudden, Saturday, they leaked the story he's leaving after the Friday night raid or investigation over Biden's house.
And, of course, the story of the New York Times never mentions Ron Klain.
He was not... Anita Dunn, her husband, they were the inside.
Is Klain stepping aside or are they pushing him out because they need a wartime consigliere?
Not to the guy that stepped there, but that Anita Dunn needs to take more direct control of this force?
boris epshteyn
A lot of ways to read that one.
A lot of ways to read that one, Steve.
First of all, let's remember that this news, Ron Klain, the news of him stepping down, That broke Saturday morning before the news of the Friday all-day search of Joe Biden's home by the DOJ broke.
So they have the search on Friday, and then Ron Klain announces he's stepping down right after that.
He's literally running off a sinking ship.
I mean, that is the textbook.
You look it up in the dictionary.
That's where it is, right?
Abandoning ship, that's what he's doing.
So either it is the Biden people saying we need someone else, or Ron Klain You know, he's been around a long time and he's had different relationships, saying, hey, I can't take this anymore.
Because now you've had six different locations for documents.
You've had lies, allegedly but seemingly lies to the DOJ, definitely lies to the American people.
This has been one of the worst handled scandals in American history.
And what can we expect? This is the same quote-unquote administration, illegitimate administration, That's been the worst on the border, the worst on the economy, the worst on national security.
They have mishandled everything, including this crisis.
steve bannon
Shifty Shift gets bounced off of because of the lies he told on the Russian collusion hook, outright lies. I think he's announced he's going to run for the Senate out there.
What are your thoughts, Boris?
boris epshteyn
My thoughts are that Shifty Shift, Eric Swalwell, And the Democrat junta, who are completely, completely disdainful of America, who have no care for what's best for our country, you know, swole with fang-fang, ship with lying over and over and over again about President Trump and defaming the president.
unidentified
These people cannot be anywhere near.
boris epshteyn
Forget the House media and intelligence.
They can't be anywhere near Congress.
And if Shifty Shep wants to go and run for the Senate, well, that's his prerogative and that's his business.
And I hope the people of California give him the same treatment that Kevin McCarthy and Republicans are giving him regarding the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
steve bannon
Boris, how do people get to you?
unidentified
What are your coordinates? Steve, it's a big day.
boris epshteyn
Follow these stories. And to folks, always signal, not noise.
What you've got to remember, what you've got to remember is that None of these events are separate.
The document disaster for Biden, the arrest today of McGuerno.
What is happening is you're seeing the combination of the deep state, the Democrat leadership, and let's be honest, the leadership of law enforcement that was in power in the 2016 era absolutely falling apart and proving that we were right all along, and most importantly, President Trump was right all along, that the deep state was out to get it.
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Stay strong. God bless all offense, and I'll talk to you tomorrow.
steve bannon
Thanks, Boris. I want to go to Mike Davis.
Mike, you were the first guy on this we had on the show on 8 August.
You've seen what's happened over the weekend.
Make this make sense to me, please.
What is going on with this Biden situation?
mike davis
It's very interesting what's going on with this because you know what?
It's all coming together against Biden.
What's amazing to me is when I'm reading New York Times pieces and Washington Post pieces last week, it didn't seem like Ron Klain was in the loop on this document matter, which is very, very, very surprising to me because he's Biden's longtime confidant, the chief of staff, and the fact that He apparently wasn't in the loop.
It's shocking, frankly. And maybe that's what led to Ron Klain's resignation announcement because it kind of just came out of nowhere.
And as Boris said, he's kind of running off of a sinking ship.
I agree with him on that.
I will say this.
You can make sense of it this way.
This was a complete cover-up.
By Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Biden Justice Department, they knew going back two months to November 2nd, six days before the midterm elections, they knew at least by then that President Biden had these stolen classified records and penned Biden and probably other places.
They kept that secret.
steve bannon
I tell you what, Mike, let's go to a short commercial break because you're coming in choppy.
We're coming in choppy. We want to reboot you.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We return. We got Mike Davis from Article 3.
We got Miranda Devine, her new column in the New York Post.
We're going to return in the warm in just a moment Your host Stephen K back welcome back We're trying to get Miranda Davis, the great, Miranda Devine, the great New York Post columnist up by phone.
I want to go to Mike Davis. Mike, the timing of this, you know, they have an all-day FBI search, which they've negotiated, right?
They're inviting them in, not a raid.
Late at night, goes all day, and then Klain resigns the next morning.
How does that, the timing of that doesn't, and they find, and remember, they also find what they call sets.
It's not individuals, they find sets.
So explain that to me in Washington logic, what happened here.
mike davis
It seems to me, Steve, that if you look at the reporting at the New York Times and the Washington Post, the leaks from the Biden White House and maybe the Biden Justice Department talking about Who was aware of this collusion, this political White House and the Biden Justice Department?
Ron Klain seems to be out of the loop during this process.
And maybe that's what's led to his resignation announcement on Saturday morning.
steve bannon
Mike, hang on for one second.
Maybe I want to try to reboot that one more time.
Can we get Miranda Devine while we reboot Mike Davis?
Miranda, you wrote, I think, one of the most informative columns, and you've had so many great ones, but of anybody, and summarizing this today, before I have you walk us through it, You've been all over FBI, CIA, DOJ. Give us your perspective on this blockbuster news coming out of New York today about the head of the counterintelligence operation in New York and one of the leaders of the Trump investigation essentially being turned over as,
I guess, a Russian agent, ma'am?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, it's interesting.
We just thought of that.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to have to reboot her also.
Um...
We've got two great guests.
We've just got to work out the technology.
You can tell. Let me know when Mike's back up.
Just to put it in perspective.
Do we have the clip from Cash we played this morning?
Let me know when you get the clip.
Cash actually said it today.
There's something much deeper going on here, and this is what Miranda Devines.
Let's play Cash Patel from this morning.
unidentified
How did you know, because the very first day this broke, you came on here and go, hey, there are going to be a lot more documents and a lot more locations.
How did you know that and say it with such certainty?
kash patel
Because actually what I'm going to tell you for the first time, which I haven't said on the air or in any media, this investigation did not start because librarians at NARA came out and said there are overdue library books.
Excuse me, you guys forgot to return X. As a former federal prosecutor, as a guy who led the intelligence community, classified investigations don't start there.
You know where they start? When you have a crime that you are investigating.
You know what crime the DOJ was looking at for the last four years?
Hunter Biden's laptop.
Mark my word, this classified investigation will be put out by the weaponization of the federal government subcommittee on Jim Jordan when they get the following document.
The electronic communication, the EC, just like Devin and I got in Russiagate, that is the singular document of the FBI that says where and when the investigation started.
It will trace right back to Hunter Biden's laptop.
They will find information on it about China and Russia and Ukraine, which led them to go and search for documentation relevant to that crime, which led them to Joe Biden's door.
And that's why I have always said, when NARA said, oh, we're missing one set of documents, I said that is the biggest political cover-up of a crime I've ever seen, and it's going to be a waterfall of documents.
And now they've come out.
And that leads me to the intent portion, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, what we're going to try to do on the show as we try to do on other topics, whether it's pandemic or debt ceiling, geopolitics, the CCP, Ukraine, vaccines, you name it, is to make sure you have nomenclature, understand process, because this is going to get very confusing very quickly.
And one of the things we pride ourselves on doing is making sure you present the information and evidence that is You can get your own frame of reference.
Mike, I want to go to what Cash was talking about this morning.
There's something here that doesn't make sense.
You don't have lawyers like Bob Bauer.
You don't have these senior people, the Democratic Illuminati that really run these massive Democratic law firms, as you know, that run the city, popping up in closets.
Rummaging around and finding compartmented top secret material or sets of materials they now reported sets of material involving Ukraine and Iran things like this.
So is cash right do you think particularly when you go back and forget the 68 days of collusion right or cover-up but you go back to November 2nd drive the stake in that and look back.
Make this make sense to me.
What do you think is going on here?
mike davis
Well, there's no question that Biden, no sane person would send $1,500 an hour or more personal attorneys to go help close down your abandoned work office at the Penn Biden Center at 101 Constitution Avenue Northwest.
That was the Chinese fund at University of Pennsylvania holding grounds where Biden had his fake professorship after he left It does not make sense.
They just happened to show up on November 2nd with these high-priced attorneys, found these classified documents, and then they claimed they called the National Archives.
It just doesn't make sense.
They had to have been Looking for documents in another matter.
Maybe they were looking for documents in the Delaware matter where you're dealing with Hunter Biden's tax evasion and influence peddling, or there's some other matter that they're looking at in order to come up with these documents at the Penn Biden Center.
Remember, the Biden lawyers didn't turn this over to the Justice Department like they claimed.
They turned these documents over to the political head of the National Archives, and the only reason it got turned over to the Biden Justice Department is because the Inspector General of the National Archives got wind of it and turned it over to the Justice Department, and then Attorney General Merrick Garland of the Biden Justice Department colluded for two months, and they worked together to try to cover this up for two months, and it finally came out.
The timing is also interesting on Ron Klain.
If you look at the reporting at the New York Times and the Washington Post, the leaked backgrounds on what the Biden administration was doing on this, you notice that Ron Klain's name was missing.
Ron Klain is one of Biden's longest His chief of staff, one of his longest-serving aides, and he was out of the loop on this, which maybe that explains why Ron Klain quit on Saturday like he did because he was cut out of the loop on this.
This is all very, very strange.
This is clearly a political cover-up, and there's much more going on here.
steve bannon
Mike, hang on for one second.
I got Miranda by phone.
Miranda had the column that says, and we've had cash on the day, that the railhead of this is the laptop from hell which you wrote the definitive book on.
But I got it where we got you.
Your first cut at this senior head of counterintelligence for Russia for the FBI in New York now essentially accused of taking money from the Russians of being a Russian double agent.
miranda devine
Your thoughts, ma'am? Yeah, well, so he was the head of counterintelligence in the New York field office, and it was the New York field office of the FBI that arrested Patrick Ho, who was one of Hunter Biden's business partners.
So there's that, you know, everything seems to have a Hunter Biden link.
And now we find that this very guy, Charlie McGonigal, has just been convicted of basically being a Russian spy.
So, you know, it seems there is so much corruption at the top of the FBI, and we've had a handful of whistleblowers, I mean, probably a couple of dozen, which is fantastic, and they've, you know, put their careers on the line.
People like Steve Friend, who's basically being victimised by the FBI, has been put on They've come out and blown the whistle.
But Christopher Wray, he swans around to Davos last week, boasting about the fact that the FBI has He's basically been partnering with social media companies to suppress and censor information that they don't like, that he calls misinformation or disinformation.
And we know what that was. That was the New York Post's story about the Hunter Biden laptop before the election.
That was the material that Tony Bobulinski brought forward.
It was COVID-19 material.
It was Ukraine material.
Anything that the Biden administration doesn't want made public or the Biden campaign The FBI has partnered with the social media companies to suppress it.
And you've got the head of the FBI boasting about that on an international stage.
That is out of control.
And clearly, down below Ray, his troops are out of control as well as the arrest of McGonagall shows.
steve bannon
We've got about two minutes here.
Your column today is so amazing.
Everybody's got to read it. But the point of this, just real quickly, this 22-point memo, you make this brilliant assessment that it was an email sent by Hunter.
It's the only email if you've looked through thousands of these things.
It looks like it's reflective and smart.
It looks like it was taken from a highly classified document, ma'am.
Are you in concurrence with that?
miranda devine
Well, yeah. I mean, it's certainly, he's been given a very deep strategic briefing with information that wasn't on the public record.
So, you know, how classified that was, who knows.
This is a week before his father travels to Ukraine.
This is an uncharacteristically, you know, intelligent, lengthy, well-informed email to his business partner, Devon Archer, who he, this was around the time that he and Devon Archer got onto the board of That corrupt Ukrainian energy company Burisma that was paying $183,000 a month just to sit on the board when he had no credentials to do that.
And they cut his pay in half when his father ceased to be So it's pretty obvious what they were paying him for.
And this is at the time when he's wanting to prove his bona fides to show that he's worth $83,000 a month.
So he gets hold of this information and it looks like it certainly has the flavor of an official briefing, maybe even a classified one.
steve bannon
Miranda, how do people get to you on social media and how they get to your book?
miranda devine
I'm at Miranda Devine on all social media and my books are at all good bookstores except Barnes & Noble in Fifth Avenue, which refuses to stock it.
steve bannon
Ma'am, we love you.
We love the book. We're going to push it hard.
Miranda Devine, New York Post.
Short commercial break.
Captain Wesley Hunt next.
Thank you. Congressman Wesley Hunt joins us now, a former Army captain, Apache helicopter pilot, graduate of West Point, now on Judiciary.
Congressman Hunt, walk us through the priorities.
You're a freshman, I think one of the few freshmen on there.
You're also not a lawyer, right?
You're a military officer and an MBA. Walk us through the priorities of Judiciary.
I mean, it was things breaking, I mean, exploding, this revelation about the FBI. Is a, you know, like a nuclear weapon.
Walk us through what you think the priorities of Jim Jordan and your team over there in judiciary is going to be.
wesley hunt
Well, yes, sir. Thank you for having me on.
I think, for starters, definitely my orchestra has happened here at the border for the last couple of years.
It's been a complete disaster of the explosion of these secret documents that have been in the possession of current President Joe Biden for the past six years, even when he was a senator and former vice president.
I think it's definitely going to be an issue.
And obviously the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI. I mean, these things, in my opinion, are actually completely un-American and are not what I fought for.
And I'm absolutely honored to serve on the Judiciary Committee so we can kind of get to the bottom of some of these questions.
But particularly as it pertains to Joe Biden.
We all watched the FBI raid in front of Mar-a-Lago a few months back, and now the American public is seeing the level of hypocrisy versus Democrats, versus how we treat Republicans.
My big issue is, These documents that were found in Joe Biden's garage next to his Corvette, and then the access that Hunter Biden had over the course of the past few years, it's what's very, very interesting to me.
Because it's not just Hunter Biden, but how many people actually had access to these secret documents?
And so if we're sending the FBI to President Trump's house, then what are we doing to current President Joe Biden right now?
And that's literally what I want to get to the bottom of as soon as possible.
steve bannon
I think it's great having you in, that you're an academy grad.
The handling and chain of custody of this type of, this is just not confidential secret, top secret. This is compartment where you're in a vertical that only certain people should know.
He signs out for it, the chain of custody, and now we know it's going to multiple locations.
Some of this, it could be 14 years old or it could be 20 years old.
The highest secrets in the nation, in the army, sir, When you were serving, or even now with your friends, your classmates that are still in as, I guess, field grade officers, how serious is the handling and mishandling of compartmented, top-secret information, Congressman Hunt?
wesley hunt
That's grounds for dismissal from the military.
I mean, this is completely unheard of at our level, and I'm someone that even had my TSSCI, and I'm telling you that we would never, under no circumstances, handle secret documents like this.
Senator Ted Cruz put a tweet last week that I thought was really interesting.
He talked about how he has never taken a secret document out of the SCIF, ever.
Every time he has read it, it has actually been in a controlled environment in the SCIF to make sure that our secure documents never left secure hands.
And so the idea that we are finding—your point is very well taken—the idea that we are finding documents, you know, 6, 7, 10, who knows, years old, This is a serious problem.
And again, I go back to the hypocrisy of this and how we treated President Trump.
And if we're going to be fair about this, and if we're going to be honest with the American people, and if justice is truly blind, then I think this is going to deserve a level of investigation that can potentially reach the level of impeachment.
steve bannon
The Justice Department told your committee and told Jim Jordan and Comer what they thought of the request for people coming forward in documents.
Didn't they say, hey, look, glad you guys are interested, but these are ongoing investigations and we'll get back to you when we get back to you.
Is that acceptable to you, Congressman Hunt?
wesley hunt
Completely unacceptable. And the fact that his lawyers have an opportunity to actually go through the documents before the DOJ or before the FBI takes a look at them is, again, completely unfair to former President Trump.
And what we want, at the end of the day, is fairness.
And we didn't start this, okay?
The left started this.
They are the ones that started to weaponize the DOJ and the FBI and go after former presidents.
So, in all fairness, it's our job to make sure that we do the same thing and get to the bottom of this.
I think you brought up the chain of custody as well.
That is critical, because quite frankly, sir, we have absolutely no idea.
We have absolutely no idea who's been in and out of that home.
And out of that garage, we have no idea who has lived, no idea what people have lived there over the course of the past few years.
This is an issue that we have got to find out.
And again, I want to see a manifest.
I want to know who's been there.
I want to know who has had access to these documents.
And I want to know if in any way, shape or form, Hunter Biden used these to sell out American secrets to the highest bidder.
These are all questions that we have to ask.
steve bannon
Miranda Devine has an incredible column in today's New York Post that lays some of these issues out, particularly stuff going back to 2013 on the laptop from hell.
You said it may rise to the level of impeachment.
If DOJ just hunkers down and says, hey, it's an ongoing investigation, and when the special counsel's back a year, a year and a half from now, or two years from now, we may get back to you guys, what would be your advice To the committee head, Jim Jordan, about Congressman Jordan, what should be his next steps.
wesley hunt
I think Congressman Jordan has this completely under control.
And again, that's why I'm very careful with bringing up impeachment.
It could rise to that level.
Certainly this is going to be his choice to pursue it.
I think he's going to handle it just fine.
I trust his leadership. He is somebody that has displayed a level of devotion to our country.
And the idea that he wants to get to the bottom of this, he has relayed that to me.
He has relayed that to the entire committee.
I look forward to working with him to get to the bottom of it.
steve bannon
You represent Texas 38, so obviously the southern border is a huge issue for you folks, but also it's out-of-control spending and just the scale of government.
I know it doesn't wash with folks, the hard-working folks in Texas.
This debt ceiling, you got the Democrats playing games.
The biggest game is, hey, we don't care what Kevin McCarthy and these radicals, these extremists in the House want.
There's no negotiation.
It's a clean debt ceiling or nothing.
What is your first take on that, Congressman Hunt?
wesley hunt
My first take on that is this.
We have $31 trillion in debt.
We just passed a $1.7 trillion monstrosity a few months ago.
We spent $1.5 trillion, by the way, all this with a T, trillion dollars in COVID spending over the course of the past two years.
At some point, enough is enough.
And their response to all this is to hire 87,000 IRS agents.
And I'm here to tell you that we don't have a tax revenue problem.
We clearly have a spending problem.
And so I have a four-year-old daughter, a two-year-old daughter, and I have a three-week-old boy sitting at my house right now.
And the only thing we are doing is burdening them with this debt if we don't take care of this right now.
I'm 40 years old.
I'm the upper end of the millennial scale.
We have a lot of young combat veterans that are currently serving in Congress that understand that this is an issue that has to be addressed.
We can no longer kick it down the road.
Congressional District 38, where I represent against the District President Trump, would have won by about 23 points.
We just won in November by 28 points.
These people have told me over and over and over and over again, we are voting for you to get our spending house in order.
And if you expect us to balance our budget in our homes, we expect the same thing of you.
The fact that the left is just intractable with how they are dealing with this just shows us how far gone they are.
They will spend until this country has nothing left to give.
We have reached our limit.
It's time to actually do something about spending, and it's time to keep our debt limit in control.
And again, It's the spending piece.
It is not the tax revenue.
And I'll end with this. I had the honor of my first vote in Congress was to repeal those 87,000 IRS agents.
Look, it's our job to help the American people, not prosecute them.
steve bannon
Congressman Hunt, prayers of the war room posse have been with your newborn son and the mother.
Can you give us an update? How are they doing?
How are they doing? Yes, Will Hunt.
wesley hunt
Willie Parrish Hunt II. That's his name.
I named him after my father.
My dad's the greatest man I know.
He is doing well.
He has now turned the corner.
He is out of the NICU gaining weight.
He's doing just fine. Emily had an emergency C-section a few weeks back.
She is now almost fully recovered, but please keep her in your prayers.
She's still kind of struggling with a few things, but we are definitely doing much better after we've turned the corner to recovery.
And I will tell you this, your prayers matter.
I am so blessed to have people like you thinking about us and praying for us because I really do think that it made all the difference in their very speed of recovery over the course of the past few weeks.
steve bannon
And thank you, sir, for that. Well, as you know, you're a favorite of this audience.
How do people follow you and find out more about you, Congressman Hunt?
wesley hunt
Yes, sir. Wesleyfortexas.com.
steve bannon
Thank you very much. Thank you for taking time away from your busy schedule to join us today.
wesley hunt
Appreciate it. Yes, sir. God bless you.
Thank you, sir. Appreciate you. Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
One of the rising stars in the Republican Party.
Mike Davis, you heard, you know, he's a combat vet.
He was an Apache helicopter pilot.
If you're in the military, Mike, you know that you get rolled out and sent to Leavenworth if you've had this...
Really callous way that the Biden I mean, the cynicism of how this has been handled is shocking.
We read The Washington Post and New York Times stories of the 68 days and the fact that they thought they had a deal with justice to keep it quiet.
That's the most stunning thing that the most stunning phrase that I heard.
You know, Jeff Clark brought up this morning and one of the things the Washington Post story said that they, DOJ and Bauer and these guys, they thought the Bauer's team, the president's lawyers team thought they had a mutually agreed upon deal to keep this out of the public eye and just to take care of this behind the scenes.
mike davis
Mike Davis. This is a cover up.
This is a political cover up between Attorney General Merrick Garland, President Biden, President Biden's White House attorneys and President Biden's personal attorneys and The House Judiciary Committee has jurisdiction over the Justice Department and Chairman Jim Jordan should issue subpoenas today.
Subpoena Attorney General Merrick Garland, get him over to the House and get him in a chair and make him answer questions.
And the Attorney General can't say this is an ongoing investigation.
I can't answer these questions because guess what?
You don't Get to cover up your cover up of your box, right?
The Attorney General should have appointed a special counsel for this matter on November 2nd, the second that Attorney General Merrick Garland learns that Biden had stolen classified records in his profession.
He should have appointed a special counsel.
Instead, he's covered this up for two months.
They appointed a special counsel for Trump 16 days later.
They have this highly inappropriate collusion between the Justice Department, Team Biden, and the Biden White House to cover this up.
There needs to be a hearing on this.
There needs to be a hearing on this immediately.
It's time for the House Judiciary Committee to stop tweeting.
They have subpoena power now.
Let's have subpoenas.
Get people's butts in chairs and hold a hearing.
steve bannon
You were over with Grassley.
Chief, you were there for Grassley's Judiciary Committee.
You would like to see this.
I'd like to hold you through the break.
We've got about a minute. Your recommendation To Jim Jordan is go on offense right now.
You've got to start issuing subpoenas and force these guys to come and force them to talk.
Is that your angle of attack here?
mike davis
Absolutely. When the Attorney General is working with his boss and his boss's legal team to cover up crimes, there's a huge problem.
That's why we have congressional oversight.
Merrick Garland needs to be in a chair in the House Judiciary Committee, ASAP, and we need to stop tweeting and start issuing subpoenas.
steve bannon
What about their comeback?
We hear you, Mike Davis, but this is an ongoing investigation.
Nothing we can say about it, sir.
mike davis
Then you put his butt in a chair and let Garland explain that to the American people and let him take question after question after question and let the American people look at his demeanor and look at how he's answering those questions to see if he's credible, to see if he's still covering up for Biden or if he's being truthful.
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Put him in a chair. Mike, can you hang on for one second?
steve bannon
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to return with Mike Davis, who was with Grassley over at the Senate Judiciary Committee and was a clerk for Associate Justice Gorsuch as a federal judge.
Mike Davis from Article 3 will join us on the other side.
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steve bannon
Mike Davis is our guest.
Mike, I want to read you a tweet from Andrew Weissman.
No fan of MAGA and no fan of President Trump.
Why did Biden search his personal home seven weeks after a 3 November discovery of docs at Penn Biden Center?
Story one, DOJ told us not to, which seemed implausible to me.
Story two, in New York Times today, White House did it without telling DOJ. Question, why two stories and why not a fast and comprehensive search in November?
When you have people like Andrew Weissman, Essentially calling this thing out as absurd in the lies and the spins and the misrepresentations.
Should Jim Jordan as head of judiciary, should he be leaning into this a tad more, sir? Absolutely.
mike davis
He is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee that has jurisdiction and oversight over the Justice Department.
You have very clear evidence that Attorney General Merrick Garland has improperly colluded with President Biden, the Biden White House lawyers, and President Biden's personal attorneys to cover up a massive scandal, a national security crime where there is smoking gun evidence that Biden violated the Espionage Act by having stolen classified records Five sets,
at least five sets of stolen classified records in at least three, maybe four different locations, personal locations in his personal files unguarded.
And there's clear evidence that Attorney General Merrick Garland had some sort of a deal with the Biden White House to keep this quiet.
This screams for congressional oversight.
This screams for a subpoena from Jim Jordan and the House Judiciary Committee to the Attorney General.
This screams for them dragging the Attorney General into the House Judiciary Committee, putting him into a chair and making him explain why he did what he did with Trump versus why he did what he did with Biden.
And why is there a clear double standard here?
It's much worse for Biden.
It's his boss. Why didn't he appoint a special counsel on November 2nd?
Why has he been trying to bury this?
Why are we only finding out about this?
Because the Inspector General of NARA blew the whistle on this.
This is a giant scandal and Jim Jordan needs to get moving on this.
The time for tweeting is over.
It's time to issue subpoenas.
You have the gavel.
Be a big boy.
steve bannon
Issue subpoenas. Mike, there's no doubt in your mind as a professional that on November 2nd they weren't rummaging around.
These high-powered lawyers were not rummaging around at the CCP-Pen-Biden Center just helping the pack, correct? They were there for a reason, sir?
mike davis
I mean, I don't know, Steve.
Would you pay $1,500 or more to have your personal attorneys go move papers in your office for you?
There's no way. You would send a low-level aide to go close down your China-funded office at Penn-Biden at 101 Constitution Avenue.
They were clearly responding to some sort of subpoena or other request for records in another matter.
I was a lawyer in private practice.
I didn't charge that much, you know, Six years ago when I was a real lawyer in the real world.
But, you know, to send your personal attorneys to go to go close your office is just complete nonsense.
steve bannon
They're responding to something else.
You got everybody. We got the Miranda Divine piece up from the New York Post today.
Mike, thank you for hanging out with us.
How do people get to you on social media?
How do they get to to your to your website?
mike davis
It's article3project.org, article3project.org, at article3project, at article3project on GetterTwitterTruth, and my personal is at MRDDMIA, MRDDMIA. Again, House Republicans, let's get moving on this.
This is a big deal. Stop tweeting.
Start actually getting stuff done.
steve bannon
And I want everybody to know to go to his Getter and his Twitter account.
Mike's putting up great information all day long.
President Trump, in fact, put out a massive compliment about the piece you wrote in Newsweek that we had you in here for last week.
President Trump says one of the best pieces he's written.
So, Mike, keep up doing the great work.
And I hope that Jim Jordan...
The great congressman from Ohio takes your advice and let's go on offense in this thing.
This is a scandal of massive proportions.
Just unbelievable. Mike Davis, thank you.
Thank you, Steve. In the next hour, we're going to connect some dots.
I've asked Colonel John Mills, who was in the Office of Secretary of Defense, he's an intelligence officer, to join us about this situation with the FBI, which is explosive.
The senior FBI field agent in charge of the counterintelligence officer, Department apparatus in the New York office where, quite frankly, it's even more intense there than in New York City when we talk about counterintelligence, has been, it looks like, arrested.
And essentially, when they cut through all the way they spent it, he's taking money from the Russians and is a Russian spy, a Russian agent. Absolutely explosive.
He was also the senior guy on top of President Trump on the Russian collusion.
You can't make this up.
So if you were pitching this in a movie in Hollywood, they'd throw you out of the office.
Also, what's happening in Ukraine, I'm telling you right now, and we have not been wrong on this, they're now ramping up for a large-scale land war there, much bigger than you're talking about now.
We've asked Rebecca Koffler to come in and walk us through all that.
Also, the movie Dead Names has been pulled down by Vimeo, so we've got Brandon Sherwood who's going to adjourn us, but the next hour is going to be absolutely intensive.
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Okay, it's really getting intense.
Next hour, Ukraine in this FBI, explosive FBI story of the senior member of the counterintelligence unit.
Also, tomorrow, we're going to get into more of the RNC. Tomorrow is Tuesday.
I think Mike Lindell, Caroline Wren, this RNC. Out in Dana Point is really going to heat up.
We're going to do wall-to-wall coverage.
We're going to have a couple of people out there covering it.
It's just going to be absolutely intense.
Hang around for the next hour of The War Room.
The Ukraine story, I got to tell you, it's going to be big.
And remember, Zelensky's got old-time religion now.
Everything about Zelensky right now is about corruption.
Oh, corruption, it's the number one thing.
We're going to make sure the oligarchs are not stealing money.
He's got old-time religion.
We're going to talk about all that.
We've got Rebecca Koffler.
We've got Colonel John Mills.
Join us after a short commercial break for the next hour of The Word.
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