Jan. 17, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people. | ||
| You just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
| MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Back. | |
| Okay, welcome. It is Tuesday, 17 January in the year of our Lord, 2023. | ||
| We had our opening about Davos and then had Steve Cortez going through. | ||
| A lot going on there. And we're going to tie more threads together. | ||
| Also, I want everybody to know it's so tough right now to curate the show because it is so much going on. | ||
| We've got Carrie Lake I think Caroline Wren is going to be on in the 5 o'clock hour with Natalie Winters. | ||
| Natalie's working on new investigations about this Biden situation, tying knots together, or tying things together with breaking the Gordian knot and checking out the... | ||
| Everything to deal with the CCP. So they'll be on the afternoon shows. | ||
| We're going to have Rudy and Jim Hoft up in a second. | ||
| The guys over at Gateway caught something very important. | ||
| I think we've got to put on the timeline and then Rudy. | ||
| I want to start with, I want to make sure, particularly given the debt ceiling, everything's going on this omnibus, I want to make sure we're trying to get as much information in front of people as possible. | ||
| To make sure that we're imposing, particularly if you have businesses, your entrepreneurs or church groups, etc. | ||
| I want to bring in Jason Brown quickly, co-founder of COVID Tax Relief. | ||
| Jason, just lay out what is this law? | ||
| It's a statute now. | ||
| It's on the books. People can participate. | ||
| So what is the law? And then how can people actually take advantage of what's been already laid out and paid for? | ||
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Yeah. Well, thanks again for having me on, Steve. | |
| And it's called the Employee Retention Credit. | ||
| It's part of the CARES Act, right? | ||
| We're all familiar with the CARES Act. | ||
| That's what brought us PPP loans. | ||
| However, the employee retention credit is not a loan. | ||
| It doesn't have to be forgiven or paid back. | ||
| It's not a grant where you're told how you have to spend it, right? | ||
| It's free money, but there's parameters around it. | ||
| The employee retention credit, you can put it in your business, take distribution. | ||
| This is for those businesses and churches and nonprofits That retain W-2 employees during 2020 and 2021. | ||
| They can actually get part of those wages back. | ||
| And Steve, we're not just talking a few bucks. | ||
| We're talking up to $26,000 per employee. | ||
| We do all the math for you. | ||
| Just go to covidtaxrelief.org. | ||
| Takes a couple minutes. | ||
| We tell you if you qualify and roughly how much you qualify for. | ||
| So I just want to say, this was in the CARES package. | ||
| It's totally legit if you're a W-2 employee and you kept them through COVID. Once again, how do people get to you? Because it's a little complicated. | ||
| I think that's the service you guys provide is explain it. | ||
| And this can be not-for-profits, it can be church groups, it can be obviously businesses, small entrepreneurs, correct? Yeah, it is. | ||
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Again, if you retain W-2 employees and you're not a government organization, There's a really good chance you could qualify. | |
| In fact, Steve, I just got the numbers from the last time you had us on. | ||
| Over five, almost 600 business owners of your listeners have qualified for $88 million in checks. | ||
| directly from the U.S. Treasury. | ||
| So it's exciting. It's covidtaxrelief.org. | ||
| As you can see, there's a phone number there. | ||
| If you want to talk to somebody right now, as you can imagine, when we do these shows, our phone lines basically melt, right? So if you don't want to sit on hold for a second, put your name, your contact information in there, but hop on that 800 number. | ||
| Our people are waiting to talk to you, and it's a pretty seamless process. | ||
| So every truck driver out there that's got a business, everybody's got a business that kept people, all the small shops, everybody that would sign up for public SQ, part of that, it just takes a few minutes to talk to these guys and they'll determine if you're eligible or not. | ||
| Let's leave the side, the CARES Act, and what we think about it. | ||
| It's out there, and other people are going to take advantage of it. | ||
| You need to find out exactly if you're eligible or not. | ||
| And I think I couldn't recommend this group higher to get into and just find out the details. | ||
| One more time, Jason, where do they go? | ||
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Yep, it's covidtaxrelief.org, covidtaxrelief.org. | |
| Again, our people know what they're doing. | ||
| They're able to answer any question you have, and it just takes... | ||
| A couple minutes to see if you qualify. | ||
| So it's an exciting time. | ||
| There's no doubt. I love what you said. | ||
| Whether your opinion of it is out there, they're not giving the money back, right? | ||
| And it's out there for business owners. | ||
| That's my point. Look, let's leave the politics of it aside. | ||
| It is what it is. But you as a business owner, we had 600 entrepreneurs last time with what Jason just told us, $88 million of returns. | ||
| Jason, thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you guys for helping our audience out. | ||
| I appreciate it. You bet. | ||
| Thanks for having us on. Look, it's a wrinkle in one of these laws. | ||
| If you're eligible, you should get on, check it out, then have your lawyers, whatever, check it out. But you gotta think this thing through. | ||
| You have to. You owe it to your employees, you owe it to your company, you owe it to yourself. | ||
| So go check it out today. | ||
| Really good response last time. | ||
| I have Jim Hoff. I'm trying to get Rudy up. | ||
| Let me have Jim Hoff. Jim, this Gateway Pundit story today, because we're working on a timeline of things that happen here. | ||
| Remember, the War Room's Theory of the Case, it's 2 November. | ||
| Just drive a stake in that. | ||
| Yes, there's all kind of lies and spin and cover-up. | ||
| From there, and now they're going to subpoena, I think, the NBC and CBS. I think Fox News was talking about that this morning to see what they knew and when they knew it and all that we have to get down to. | ||
| But it's the 2 November when they found the first compartment at Top Secret over at the CCP Penn-Biden Center. | ||
| That is most interesting to us, and particularly the lawyers that were in the closet rummaging around, and what was the lead up to that? | ||
| That did not happen, ladies and gentlemen, on the morning of the 2nd of November, trust me. | ||
| Did not. And that's all the media right now that won't ask any of those questions. | ||
| If they're not asking the questions, Just remember, those are the most important questions. | ||
| The stuff they're asking right now is they're basically trying to do a spin here to get your focus on the least important. | ||
| That's why I say, oh, this was inadvertent, inadvertent. | ||
| It was a secretary. No, no, no, no. | ||
| Chain of custody. It's Biden's material. | ||
| And we're going to get to the bottom of who actually saw it and who monetized it. | ||
| Jim Hoft, what's this article you've got up on Gateway Pundit today about Biden's taxes? | ||
| What is it? Yeah, so this story broke last night, and we were tipped off on it. | ||
| And what happened was Joe Biden, during the election in 2019, had posted his tax returns on a page he called it financial disclosures on the Biden-Harris campaign webpage, joebiden.com. | ||
| It has been up for several years. | ||
| Well, you know what we found was, and we heard, and Tucker Carlson had mentioned this last night, that they had removed those documents. | ||
| And now if you go to that same financial statement page, it brings you to ActBlue, a donation site for Democrats. | ||
| So what we did was I went back to the Wayback Machine to find out when were these documents removed. | ||
| And what I found was that on July 17th of 2022, the documents were up there. | ||
| Joe Biden's tax returns were still posted on the JoeBiden.com website. | ||
| But then on July 18th, The documents were gone. | ||
| And that's when it redirected you to Act Blue. | ||
| So what happened during that time? | ||
| I was talking with one of my writers, Christina. | ||
| You know, we're trying to look back and see what was going on at this time. | ||
| And, you know, we had Joe Biden's first recession, you know, when they had the two foreigners that were negative. | ||
| Of course, they don't call that a recession, but that was happening at that time. | ||
| We also had some shooting in Highland Park that transitioned Shooter who was on a mass shooting that happened in July. | ||
| You know what else happened? | ||
| Christina reminded me of this. | ||
| This was just three weeks before they raided Mar-a-Lago in President Trump's home and raided his house and rummaged through his articles and went through Melania's closet. | ||
| And his son's room. | ||
| So this is what happened. | ||
| They got rid of these documents just three weeks before the raid on Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| I thought that was very interesting. | ||
| And what we did this morning also, Steve, is in case they take these tax forms down, because we went to the Wayback Machine, we have these tax forms, we reposted them on the Gateway Pundit so your audience can go out there and look at these documents and see if they find anything suspicious. | ||
| Of course, they can notify us, can notify you. | ||
| But those documents are reposted at the Gateway Pundit. | ||
| Jim, you guys are doing a great job there. | ||
| It's one of the first things we look at in the morning for show prep. | ||
| So you and Joe keep grinding. | ||
| Gateway Pundit up on Drudge last week. | ||
| I think, what, a hundred and some million page views per month. | ||
| So just incredible. Great job. | ||
| How'd they get to you on social media, Jim? | ||
| So we're on Getter. | ||
| We're on Truth. We're back on Twitter. | ||
| And we're on Facebook. | ||
| Don't get much traffic there. | ||
| But you can find us at TheGatewayPundit.com. | ||
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Thanks, Steve. Thanks, brother. | |
| By the way, that timeline is going to go back and you're going to find out that there were things going on on this Biden situation pre-8 August, the Redo Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| Because now it's going to come in a highlight. | ||
| Why did they have to do the Redo Mar-a-Lago when they did it? | ||
| Why did they have to do it with the jackboots kicking down the doors and the FBI and the SWAT teams and all that, and they still haven't had an FBI raid on any of Biden's stuff, and Biden continues to lie and continues to spin. | ||
| So we're going to take that timeline from 2 November, drive a stake in that, take it all the way back, a timeline in the players. | ||
| Particularly, this is all being run by the big Democrat law firms in this city, in the capital city, because that's what runs the deal here. | ||
| You've got the money interest, but they're the people that make things happen. | ||
| They're the solutions providers, I call them. | ||
| The Democrat Illuminati, right? | ||
| That is the big law firms with guys like Bob Bauer, right? | ||
| And Bob Bauer's hands are all over this on every different aspect, right? | ||
| It's interesting. He's Obama's White House counsel. | ||
| He's Obama's still at least a listed interface with the National Archives on Obama's On Obama's presidential records, now he stepped in as one of the president's personal lawyers on this, and he's the architect of the big steel. | ||
| He's the architect. Mark Elias kind of worked for him. | ||
| Mark Elias is the Grundoon, so to speak, the body man for Bauer, and he's the engineer to Bauer's Let's go. | ||
| We have a technical problem with Rudy. | ||
| So let's go to, by the way, same technical problem they have with me. | ||
| When I'm left on my own and trying to get on these shows, impossible. | ||
| I have to have a staff that does it. | ||
| Let's go to Mark Jektovik. | ||
| Mark, you had a Zero Hedge picked it up. | ||
| It was up on Bombthor on your site. | ||
| And I want to talk about your amazing piece and particularly how you brought in Watership Down. | ||
| So walk me through what this was that kind of went viral on Zero Head, sir. Hey, Steve. | ||
| Nice to see you again. It was an off-the-cuff tweet I made a few weeks ago that whenever we would see a celebrity or a young person succumb or fall on the field or have a medical emergency suddenly and unexpectedly, we weren't supposed to talk about it or ask why. | ||
| And it reminded me about That children's story, Watership Down, where the Sandalford rabbits have to find a new warren, because theirs is about to be bulldozed. | ||
| And they find a place called Cowslip, which seems safe, and the rabbits are friendly, and they're fat, they're well-fed, and they're affable. | ||
| And there's only one problem, is that every once in a while, one of the rabbits goes missing, and you're not allowed to ask why. | ||
| And it turns out that the... | ||
| Cowslip's Warren is on a farmer's field, and he's laying out snares to trap them for their pelts, and you're just not allowed to talk about it. | ||
| And it reminds me a lot about the situation we're in today, where things have gone from, it's permissible to scream in your face and demand what your vaccination status is, you know, when the narrative is still holding up, but when suddenly there's all kinds of sudden and unexpected Medical emergencies and even sudden deaths, you're not allowed to see if those two dots are connected or not. | ||
| For me, it's very telling. | ||
| What did the mainstream media amplify during COVID being full blast and what are they not amplifying now? | ||
| We're just trying their best to ignore it. | ||
| That Watership Down parable just seemed so fitting in there. | ||
| It was very fitting. | ||
| By the way, we're going to take a break. Mark's going to hang through the break with us. | ||
| I'm not so sure I would say Watership Down's a children's book. | ||
| It's actually kind of like Bambi. | ||
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It's very tough. It's like Bambi's not a children's book. | |
| Bambi's a tough one. Watership Down's a tough one. | ||
| Anyway, short commercial break. | ||
| He told it to his children on a long car drive, though, originally. | ||
| But yeah, I get your point. | ||
| Yes, yes, yes. | ||
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No, it was to get them... | |
| Thinking about the way the world is. | ||
| It was quite brilliant, right? | ||
| Quite brilliant. Okay, anyway, short break. | ||
| Mark will join us on the other side. | ||
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Okay, welcome back. | |
| Mark, walk through some of the other analysis you do in this, because you make a very good point about the Watership Down analogy, but then you back it up. | ||
| And this is getting more and more important now because the evidence is coming, the data is coming, the whole facade is starting to break. | ||
| This is why at Davos... | ||
| You don't see them sitting there beating their chest on the Great Reset or Build Back Better or anything in the vaccines. | ||
| They're doing it. Don't get me wrong. | ||
| They're there in their panels. | ||
| But if this was 1000 % like they said it was going to be, they would just be in your face nonstop. | ||
| So walk us through your analysis. | ||
| This piece is, I thought, spectacular when you first put it up and we talked and then Zero Hedge links to it. | ||
| Of course, now there's on Elon Musk has come out and shown how the big pharma wanted to come out and shut down Zero Hedge immediately. | ||
| And look, Zero Hedge is not perfect. | ||
| Zero Hedge links to certain sites that are, let's be blunt, I think associate with the KGB, like Strategic Culture, which have brilliant pieces. | ||
| But you've got to understand, some of the links there, you've just got to be very careful about how you read them. | ||
| That being said, it's still one of the best sites ever. | ||
| Particularly related to capital markets, global capital markets. | ||
| Zero hedge, as we now know from Elon Musk. | ||
| Big Pharma came to them and really wanted it shut down. | ||
| They wanted it suppressed because it was putting up things on therapies and particularly low-cost alternatives on the vaccines. | ||
| If you had to use the vaccines for third world, so the Big Pharma would make these outrageous profits. | ||
| And of course, Big Pharma is all about the money. | ||
| So Mark, walk us through the rest of the piece. | ||
| Right. So, I mean, it comes down to the data, like you say. | ||
| So, when people actually pull out data from a site like Open Bears or Edward Dowd's book, Actually, the name just escaped me. | ||
| And he's looking at data sourced from the CDC. Causes unknown. | ||
| Correct, yes. Thank you for that. | ||
| And so when you actually look at the data, and this is something I've been doing since the very beginning of the pandemic. | ||
| And I talk a little bit about that in the article. | ||
| When the pandemic started, I was telling my friends to buy N95 masks Stock up on groceries and medications. | ||
| And I was out there in a mask in like February or March. | ||
| But I also had a spreadsheet going and I was tracking the numbers coming out of the city of Toronto, province of Ontario, government of Canada, CDC every day. | ||
| And by May, I just knew from looking at the data, this was not a thermonuclear level pandemic event. | ||
| It just wasn't going to be. | ||
| Anyone looking at the data would know that. | ||
| And I thought that was good news. | ||
| But now, so you keep looking at the data, and anybody looking at the actual data sees that, for one thing, The excess mortality deaths in millennials keep spiking even after vaccine deployment and the trend line is going in the wrong direction. | ||
| So I'm not an epidemiologist, I'm not a statistician, but I can look at a graph and if the data is kosher, you know that something's out of whack here. | ||
| And so the vaccines were originally pushed on the public or delivered to the public as a magic bullet. | ||
| 95 % efficacy was the first number. | ||
| On a virus that we knew by then was like a 99.95 % survival rate. | ||
| So what we should have seen, you don't have to be an MD to know that once the vaccine's deployed, we should have seen all of that just trend the other direction. | ||
| We should have seen excess mortality fall off a cliff, and we should have seen all this go to zero. | ||
| That's the other interesting aspect of all this was the narrative shift. | ||
| It came out as confers immunity. | ||
| And then suddenly it didn't confer immunity anymore because it seemed like every time someone got a booster, they got COVID. And then it's like, okay, it doesn't confer immunity, but it stops transmission. | ||
| The basis of all of the vaccine mandates. | ||
| It stops transmission. | ||
| No one is safe until everybody is safe. | ||
| Do your bit to stop spreading this. | ||
| And then it turns out, hey, you know what? | ||
| It doesn't stop transmission either. | ||
| So now it finally came to, well, you feel better. | ||
| You don't get as sick. | ||
| And that's now the definition of what a vaccine does because the CDC even changed the definition of a vaccine. | ||
| You look at these numbers, right? | ||
| And what is the mainstream media amplifying then versus what are they ignoring now? | ||
| And you're looking at these numbers and every day you're hearing about a tragedy about a young person or even a person who's, you know, maybe not young but not elderly yet. | ||
| And they're notable people or they're athletes or it happens on live TV or live streams. | ||
| They're just having medical emergencies. | ||
| Suddenly and unexpectedly, and in a lot of case, fatalities. | ||
| And under COVID, you didn't, like, did you hear about a celebrity dying every day from COVID? No, nobody did. I said in the article, I can think of three, you know? | ||
| And John Prine, Herman Cain, and to everyone's delight in the zero COVID community, Meatloaf, because he was a vaccine skeptic. | ||
| But since then, like, people are having vaccine, well, I'm not saying that they're having vaccine injuries, but they're having these Medical anomalous events at a staggering rate. | ||
| Like one of the figures from the article looked at, this blog looked at the number of athletes collapsing on the field up until 2020. | ||
| I think it was a study they pulled that looked up until 2015, averaged 29 a year. | ||
| Okay, 29 athletes a year collapse on the field. | ||
| So this happens and it happened before COVID and it happened before vaccine deployment. | ||
| But then they looked at what's it been since like mid-2021 when this all rolled out? | ||
| The time when I looked at the article to quote it in Bomb Thrower, it was 1,625. | ||
| And the fact check criticism of the article was like, oh, they're just pulling a number out. | ||
| But they actually have 1,625 footnotes in the article linking to individual media accounts of every medical emergency incident that they're counting since mid-2021. | ||
| Okay, we can't say for sure what's going on, but we can say for sure that something is going on. | ||
| Something is throwing the data out of whack. | ||
| You can graph it and look at it and say there's something up here, and we're not allowed to talk about it, we're not allowed to ask questions about it, and the mainstream media is just dismissing it as nothing to see here. | ||
| That's where we're going to continue to push it with Ed Dowd and others, and you're going to see the lawsuits. | ||
| The liability issue is going to be broken. | ||
| We already broke, remember, the 75 years that the documents were supposed to be secret, we broke that, the people that went to federal court and won that, and then the four-year request, what the nation owes those folks. | ||
| And then, of course, Naomi Wolf and all the team, the 3,500 of the War Room Posse. | ||
| In fact, you can go to Naomi Wolf's site, Daily Cloud. | ||
| They have a whole book out there right now to compile just, I think there are 51 studies, reports that have been done off of the Pfizer data alone, because this all comes down to the data and the evidence. | ||
| How do people get? | ||
| We'll put the site up. I want Grace and Mo to put it up in all the chat rooms so people can read it. | ||
| And Carly Bonet and the folks over at Midnight Rider, you ought to definitely read this article that was up on Zero Hedge. | ||
| Mark, how do people get to your sites? | ||
| It's bombthrower.com. | ||
| You get on the mailing list for free. | ||
| You get the Crypto Capitalist Manifesto. | ||
| I'm bombthrower on Getter, stuntpope on Twitter. | ||
| I've got a bomb thrower telegram there linked to in the article. | ||
| And yeah, that's about it. | ||
| Mark, thank you. Thank you for the great work that you do. | ||
| Just amazing. Thank you, sir. | ||
| Thanks, Steve. Take care. Mark Jephtovic, one of our colleagues from Canada. | ||
| So many great folks up there, just hardworking, really get it. | ||
| Horrible what's happened to their politics up there. | ||
| Let's go to, we got Rudy. | ||
| This is Steve Bannon affixed. | ||
| They got Rudy by phone. When I can't, look, I'm by myself, I can't get up always doing by phone. | ||
| Rudy, here's the question. | ||
| You know this better than anybody since you're one of the most prominent lawyers in the country and one of the top prosecutors. | ||
| November 2nd, a former White House counsel who just resigned ends up in a closet at the CCP Of course not, | ||
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Steve. The reality is that We don't know enough to know how did she know to go there? | |
| Remember, Biden says, I don't remember anything about these documents. | ||
| So how did she know to go to that exact spot? | ||
| Did Biden at one point know? | ||
| Is he lying? Does somebody else know? | ||
| Second, you send a lawyer because you're in trouble. | ||
| I mean, if you weren't in trouble, you call the government and you say, hey, guys, go take a look. | ||
| I think I may have forgotten, but someone tells me there are documents there. | ||
| Then when they do tell the government, they deliberately suppress that information while they're beating the living daylights out of Trump for a far less egregious situation where a process was going on. | ||
| Remember, these documents were gone, as far as we can tell, to the government for six years. | ||
| They had no idea where they were or under what conditions they were being held. | ||
| In the case of Trump, they always knew where the documents were. | ||
| They actually went and looked at them, and they made recommendations about more security, which were adopted. | ||
| And as far as you could tell, they were in a process under the Presidential Record Act for the debate that takes place between a president and the government as to whether it's a personal record or not. | ||
| And so when you say delay and obstruction, they're not obstructing anything. | ||
| They didn't need these. If they needed the documents for some purpose, they would have gone and gotten them and taken them. | ||
| In other words, if there was a document there the government needed, they knew exactly where it was. | ||
| It was logged in at Mar-a-Lago. | ||
| They'd go right there and get it, like they eventually did. | ||
| In the case of Biden, if they needed one of these documents, it was gone for six years. | ||
| Also, the conditions... | ||
| That Biden had them under, particularly the ones in open view in the garage, cry out for criminal penalties. | ||
| I mean, if you look at it, he has to knock it out in a garage, and you have to pass them. | ||
| You have to pass them every day. | ||
| And it's a degenerate drug addict who is doing business with crime every day. | ||
| Rudy, hang on for one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| America's mayor, the one that put the five families away in the mob on Wall Street, Rudy Giuliani, the top prosecutor in the country, joins us after a short break. | ||
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Your host, Stephen K. Mann. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| I'm doing some work there to make sure our staff's fully informed. | ||
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| Why? The head of the Sicilian mafia, the godfather, I guess, after 30 years was rolled up. | ||
| They wanted to talk to him because of what Rudy did as a prosecutor and putting away the five families. | ||
| Seeing the godfather and the five families around the table, well... | ||
| In the 1980s, a young prosecutor, a U.S. attorney, put those five families, broke them, and then he broke the Wall Street mob, too. | ||
| So he knows what he's talking about. | ||
| Rudy, put your prosecutor head on. | ||
| As a prosecutor, I want to start with the November 2nd and not go forward with all the spin and everything that's happening. | ||
| I want to drive a stake in November 2nd and go back in time. | ||
| What is really Giuliani looking at in that timeline? | ||
| And we're not conspiracy theorists here at all. | ||
| People know that, but we don't believe in coincidences. | ||
| How does 8 August, how does the raid on Mar-a-Lago kind of pop up right after, I think, the White House counsel says she's leaving in July and she technically leaves, I think, in October? | ||
| And she's the one, Dana Remus, we want you to remember her name, she's the one rummaging around in the closet for top-secret documents. | ||
| As a prosecutor, where do you head, Rudy? | ||
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Well, I mean, you've got two cases and one is almost essentially criminal and the other is essentially civil. | |
| I mean, Biden's case is essentially criminal. | ||
| Whether he did it on purpose or inadvertently, he virtually stole the documents. | ||
| He took them and they were out of the control or knowledge of the government. | ||
| In the case of Trump, he took them, but in a process in which they were always known to and available to the government. | ||
| And the government could go there and make recommendations as to their security that had to be accepted if he wanted to continue to go through them. | ||
| So it's two very different things. | ||
| I believe they created it as a raid in order to make it look criminal because they knew they had a problem with Biden. | ||
| Now, we don't know how many more records are here and there. | ||
| And by definition, we can't know. | ||
| Biden's position is, I don't remember. | ||
| Well, if he doesn't remember, how can he tell us this exhausts the number of classified documents that he removed? | ||
| There could be 10 more. | ||
| There could be 10,000 more. | ||
| The state of his knowledge is, I don't know. | ||
| And somehow, this crooked government is avoiding searching him. | ||
| His property has to be searched for national security purposes because we can't even take his word for the fact he doesn't have any of the documents because he doesn't remember. | ||
| Or at least he said he doesn't remember. | ||
| So I don't understand how they justify at all not searching him. | ||
| It's outrageous. | ||
| But this is a setup. It was a setup to try to offset what they knew would eventually come out. | ||
| And it has no defense. | ||
| Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho. | ||
| Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down. | ||
| You're saying 8 August, the jackbooted FBI with all the media, all that, you're saying the jackbooted FBI raid on 8 August at Mar-a-Lago was a setup to cover themselves on this? | ||
| Is that what you're saying? Do I hear you correctly? | ||
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Yeah. And the President Biden has to know that he had this classified material. | |
| How many times did they pass it in the garage? | ||
| It's right there! It's sitting right there. | ||
| How many times did Hunter pass it? | ||
| Oh, with his Chinese girlfriend spy or his Russian girlfriend spy? | ||
| I don't know. But a lot of people knew about it. | ||
| So the chances that this would come out were pretty darn strong. | ||
| Now, could they have done it because one theory is the Democrats want to force them out? | ||
| So they were going to force them out with this and they decided we better even the score by going after Trump? | ||
| Make Trump's situation look criminal, when up until then, it had been a negotiation. | ||
| There was no reason to believe that if they said to Trump, send us those documents, we gotta go through them now, he wouldn't do it. | ||
| They haven't made the request, so they'll never know whether he would or would not. | ||
| Rudy, I've got to bounce here in a minute, and we're going to have you back on as many days as possible because you're the guy that knows what they're doing here. | ||
| Is the special counsel that has been set up by the Justice Department, is it real? | ||
| Is it real, sir, if he does not have an FBI raid on the multiple locations, the Beach House, the Wilmington House? | ||
| And people have to understand, on that property, there's another house. | ||
| There's another house I think Biden built for his mother. | ||
| I don't know where he got the money, maybe the CCP, but he built another house on that same property in Wilmington. | ||
| And the Penn Center is heard to be taken seriously if they're not FBI raids on these places to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani. I lost Rudy. | ||
| My biggest, most dramatic question. | ||
| That's okay. Rudy, you back? | ||
| Rudy just being Rudy. | ||
| Okay, we'll get this another day. | ||
| I do that all the time. | ||
| Remember, I can't set my own computer up to do these interviews. | ||
| I've got to have the war room team. | ||
| Let's go. So here's the point. | ||
| Just drive a stake into November, and we're going to do a timeline so everybody can see it, and also do a cast of characters, particularly on the Democrat Illuminati. | ||
| And the Democrat Illuminati is the big law firms that are the fixers in this town. | ||
| You go to them, they're solutions providers, right? | ||
| You know, Covington Burley and Holder, and you got King Spaulding, and you got Kirkland Ellis, and you have Gibson Dunn, and Of course, Perkins Coy. You've got Bauer. | ||
| You've got Mark Elias. Mark Elias is on every side of every trade, too. | ||
| We'll go into more of Mark Elias's background about the games he's played on both sides of this. | ||
| But, hey, you know, he's an evil genius. | ||
| I want me a Mark Elias on our side. | ||
| I'm always open about that. | ||
| I want a Mark Elias. | ||
| I want an evil genius on our side and on the legal side. | ||
| But you're going to see a cast of characters here. | ||
| And if you drive a stake in 2 November, you just ask the question, in the CCP-Penn-Biden center, how does Dana Remus The most connected lawyer in this town because she's Biden's personal lawyer having been White House counsel. | ||
| You don't get any more dialed in in a city run by lawyers. | ||
| Okay? With everybody in the world, remember, every company's got a problem. | ||
| Every potentate's got a problem. | ||
| They've all got a problem. What do they do? | ||
| They want access. To the Oval Office and they want access to decision-makers, okay? | ||
| They want access. And how does she end up in a closet with these highly... | ||
| And they're going to try to spin you with, you know, the other things and the media and who knew... | ||
| Yeah, that's all fine. The cover-up, hey, let somebody... | ||
| And we're maybe going to the cover-up, but that's not the thing itself. | ||
| The thing itself... Is the original trove of compartmented top secret, particularly about Ukraine and Iran, right, who are partners with, the Mullahs are partners with the CCP. Not that the CCP would want to see compartmented top secret information on that, far be it from the criminals in Beijing. | ||
| 2 November back, and I'm telling you, just put that date of 8 August, that jackbooted raid on the FBI that you haven't seen happen so far. | ||
| By this regime. | ||
| And that's what it is, is the regime. | ||
| It's kind of like Lula's guys down in Brazil. | ||
| And what they're doing now, the Stalinist regime there, is outrageous because Bolsonaro won. | ||
| Okay? Just like Trump won. | ||
| Okay. Do we have Ben? | ||
| Ben Berkwam? And then we got tons. | ||
| I want to go to Ben Berkwam and Oscar. | ||
| Blue Ramirez. Ben, where are you? | ||
| Where are you on this journey? | ||
| What are you finding out? You've got amazing footage. | ||
| I want you to explain to people. | ||
| We're going to be running it. Real America's Voice is going to be running it while you guys are up. | ||
| What are we watching? It's even hard to describe. | ||
| There's so much we've seen, Steve. | ||
| We're back in Nacokli, Colombia. | ||
| We just came back from Kapur Ganon. | ||
| This is kind of the epicenter of the illegal alien tourist industry, the tourist trade, the human smuggling trade, being operated by the United Nations. | ||
| You can see one of the tourist agencies behind us over here. | ||
| And over to our left over here. | ||
| Go ahead, Blue. Over to our left, we have a first sign that is basically promoting the boats. | ||
| They take the migrants to different types of islands. | ||
| And to further over there, Ben is going to explain another banner, Mr. | ||
| Bannon. It tells you the islands that they are going to move and where they're going to move. | ||
| So you can see the group behind us. | ||
| And what's also important to note here, this is a tourist destination too. | ||
| So while you have illegal migrants coming through this, before this became an illegal alien hub, this was a tourist destination. | ||
| So some of the boats are going out with tourists on them, some of them are taking the migrants out. | ||
| You can see the sign here where the destinations are. | ||
| Akandi, Kapurganan, these are the primary locations where they're taking them to cross the Darien Gap, which is where we were yesterday. | ||
| One thing to note here, just to show you how this has just become an industry, this is part of the economy, are all these little stalls behind us. | ||
| These are all catering to people that are crossing the Darien Gap. | ||
| So they have the blankets to sleep on, they have the tents, they have machetes, they have little cook stoves, the water to go with it, the boots that you wear when you go across. | ||
| This is all Darien Gap, crossing the Darien Gap. | ||
| Some of the footage, it's hard to describe. | ||
| We were out there almost all day with them yesterday. | ||
| And the first thing I have to say is anyone, you've got the UN, this is the biggest problem. | ||
| You have the United Nations and the NGOs that are down here telling people this is a safe journey, that it's okay, you have a right to go to America. | ||
| And what we saw yesterday is pure child abuse. | ||
| It's suicidal for the people to go out there. | ||
| These women in their 70s and women with children, multiple children, going up some of the Most dangerous routes I've ever been on, and I'm an extreme sports guy. | ||
| It is shocking, the stuff that we found, not to mention what happened when we came back across the water to Nacokli, Blue. Yes, and also elaborating on the UN, you have a big banner close to their office, it's not far away from here, that they have pregnancy pills, that they're giving out pregnancy pills, basically promoting... | ||
| And condoms. And condoms, promoting rape, because they know what is going to happen in the Darien Gap. | ||
| We entered the Darien Gap yesterday, and we encountered ourselves with the biggest challenges, Ben, that we have been in terms to insecurities, in terms to danger. | ||
| And one of the things that Real America's Voice News is going to have, it is footage of a coyote, of a guide that used to work for the cartels in Mexico, used to smuggle also people into the United States, and now he's working as a guide in the Darien Gap. | ||
| We have that interview, we have that exclusive, and on our way back. | ||
| Excuse me, on our way back, Ben, you saw what happened. | ||
| So, literally, as we're coming back across the boat from Kapurganan to Nkokli again, again in the smuggling route, human smuggling, run by the NGOs, run by the United Nations and the cartels, there was a boat that was bobbing in the water. | ||
| We came up to it, found out. | ||
| I guess we're going to go to break. | ||
| Stand by, guys. We'll finish that story. | ||
| Yeah, just hang on for one second. | ||
| We'll take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got Oscar Blue Ramirez. | ||
| We've got Ben Burquam taking the arduous and dangerous journey from the Venezuelan-Colombia border up to the southern border of the United States. | ||
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| What you see in Davos, particularly the climate and the migration issues, this is what Ben Berquam and Oscar Blue Ramirez are doing down on this trail from the Venezuelan border all the way to the southern border of the United States. | ||
| This is what Davos is driving. | ||
| And I want to make sure people understand, Noor Bin Laden reports to us every day from Davos. | ||
| She lives in Geneva. | ||
| And Geneva is the engine room. | ||
| The U.N. The front piece is in New York City, but the real engine room of the CCP is all over. | ||
| We'll get Ben up in a second. | ||
| But the engine room of the U.N. Is in Geneva, where Nur bin Laden is, and particularly the UN aspects. | ||
| The buried lead, I talked to Ben in the break, and when he comes back, and we can't get him up now because obviously they're down in a place that's tough to get a signal. | ||
| We will get him back on this evening. | ||
| Is the buried lead, and it says, Ben, don't bury the lead. | ||
| The UN came up to Ben and Oscar and the crew as they were there. | ||
| And said, who are you guys? | ||
| Exactly where are you with? And what are you reporting on? | ||
| And they saw from the people around there, the UN is telling people, and your dollars, billions of dollars of your money go support the UN. The UN is telling people you have a right. | ||
| You have a right because of the Biden regime. | ||
| You have a right. To emigrate, to migrate to the United States of America. | ||
| Ben Burquam, Oscar Blue, tell me about the United Nations, because this connects the dot. | ||
| We end the show just like we started it. | ||
| We start in Davos, and we're ending on the results of what the people in Davos are doing. | ||
| Walk me through what the United Nations are telling you guys down there, sir. | ||
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Well, hopefully you can hear us. | |
| We have some little technical issues with the camera, but they're here. | ||
| They're running this operation. | ||
| The UN, NCR, the OIM, these guys are really the ones that are coordinating, not just here in the Coakley, but all over the world, telling people this is the routes to go. | ||
| This is where to come. Providing services along the way. | ||
| And like Blue said, you can see that camp that you're looking at right now. | ||
| Those are mostly Venezuelans. | ||
| That's at the other side of town. | ||
| This is what's happening all over the world because of the United Nations really traffickers. | ||
| I mean, they are the largest traffickers being aided and abetted by Joe Biden and the open borders left. | ||
| And no matter what comes out of Washington, D.C., all you have to do is see what's happening down here. | ||
| The proof is in what we're looking at here. | ||
| We have thousands of people here right behind us. | ||
| You can see these stalls. The people in this right here are buying for their journey. | ||
| All of these people. are picking up items for their journey. | ||
| You've got the tents down on the bottom here. | ||
| You've got the sleeping mats. | ||
| You've got the boots. Everything that you could possibly need. | ||
| You've got the water. And these guys, within the next couple days, will be heading across into the Darien Gap. | ||
| It's the biggest travel agency, Mr. | ||
| Bannon, that exists in the world. | ||
| Yes, Joe Biden, you have created jobs, and these are the multiple jobs that you have created, not only here, but in the jungle. | ||
| It is working. | ||
| It is obvious that they're working with the Democrats. | ||
| They're promoting this mass migration and ultimately creating more outlets for people to get jobs. | ||
| Even migrants right here, that they are waiting to make a buck to go into the very end gap to pay off the guys and the people. | ||
| Or other migrants that are ultimately going into the Darien Gap. | ||
| We saw multiple migration today. | ||
| We saw yesterday, we saw migration from China. | ||
| Thousands. Thousands. It is a continuous influx. | ||
| From Africa, from Asia, from China, from the Middle East, everywhere. | ||
| Everywhere, guys. It looks like we've got the license back up. | ||
| We see it from every... | ||
| We see it from every... This is... | ||
| A disaster on biblical proportions. | ||
| And the saddest part to me is these children have no idea what they're walking into and they're being lied to by the UN. It is absolutely criminal what's happening. | ||
| I want to ask you guys that real quickly. | ||
| We've only got a couple of minutes. Is what the UN doing, do you believe it's criminal in working with the cartels? | ||
| Because the cartels are the ones that actually do the heavy lifting of getting these innocent people through there. | ||
| 100%. They are working in direct coordination with the cartels, no doubt about it. | ||
| They know about the operation in the sea. | ||
| They know about the operation entering the Darien Gap. | ||
| They know about the operation right here with guides. | ||
| They have even guides that they have their own group that they are going to put on the boat, and the United Nations is in front of them. | ||
| For God's sake, it is just so embarrassing to see it. | ||
| That is ridiculous, and it is really insulting to humanitarian life. | ||
| Really, it's for the children. The same people that claim to be humanitarian. | ||
| Yes, the same people. They're killing children. | ||
| They're having women raped. And they know they're doing it because they're giving them condoms and birth control before they send them into hell. | ||
| Ben, how do people get to you and Oscar and watch this nonstop, not just Real America's Voice, but also your live streaming and everything you guys are doing on reporting this journey? | ||
| Well, you mentioned Real America's Voice. | ||
| This is the place to get it. | ||
| No other network is doing what we're doing. | ||
| Real America's Voice, americasvoice.news. | ||
| You can find the stories on my website, frontlineamerica.com as well, and then my social media, at Ben Berquam, B-E-R-G-Q-U-A-M. Just wait. | ||
| I can't even stress to you what we're going to be releasing that we haven't released yet. | ||
| It is shocking. | ||
| And then, Blue. Oscar Blue Ramirez at YouTube, all social media, oscarblueramirez, oscarblueramirez.com, and of course, Real America's Voice and News, sir. | ||
| Okay, I need you guys to stay safe, because trust me, you're targets. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. The reporting you're doing is unlike anybody. | ||
| BBC's not doing it. | ||
| CBS, ABC, CNN, nobody in the world's doing this. | ||
| It's quite extraordinary. | ||
| I want to thank you guys very much. | ||
| Talk to you in the afternoon show. | ||
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| By the way, stick around for Charlie Kirk. | ||
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| We're going to be back in Davos with a summary of what's going on today. | ||
| We're also going to be back with Ben Burkwam and Oscar. | ||
| We've got Carrie Lake. We've got, I think, Caroline. | ||
| We're going to talk about the RNC race. | ||
| We've got Natalie Winters. | ||
| More on the investigation. We're packed. | ||
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