Jan. 4, 2023 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K Vance. | |
| ...started to get weird. | ||
| And it was 2014 in the Obama era. | ||
| Talk a little bit about that. | ||
| Yeah, when you look at what's unfolded today, Joy, to me, all of this started eight years ago, when Dave Brat defeated the sitting House Majority Leader, Eric Cantor, in his primary. | ||
| It was the first time, really, that we saw from that Tea Party wing of the party that had emerged, them successfully take out what they called the establishment, which they really thought of as the enemy. | ||
| It's funny because that wing of the party, the Democrats were the opposition, but their own leadership, their own party structure, they saw them as the enemy, and they successfully took out Eric Cantor. | ||
| And Cantor was part of this trifecta that was anointed as the young guns. | ||
| It was Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, and you guessed it, Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| They were going to be the heir apparents that were going to take over. | ||
| Cantor goes down. | ||
| Boehner, then, a year later, resigns from Congress. | ||
| Not just vacated in speech, he left. | ||
| He took his ball and went home. | ||
| McCarthy was supposed to be the leader at that point. | ||
| The night before the vote's going to happen, the Freedom Caucus puts out 30 to 40 members saying they're not going to vote for McCarthy. | ||
| 24 hours later, McCarthy bows out of the race. | ||
| Paul Ryan ascends. | ||
| Guess what happened shortly after that? | ||
| Paul Ryan leaves Congress! | ||
| He don't want to deal with it anymore because it got too crazy. | ||
| Here we are now, all those years later, and it's the same play playing out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A vocal minority of extreme, and in this case, anti-democratic domestic terror sympathizers, have hijacked the entire caucus. | ||
| There are 222 Republicans in Congress. | ||
| How is it possible that these people have allowed 20 of them, led by Matt Gaetz, who, you know, sent Venmo's to a child trafficker of some kind. | ||
| Like, how do they allow this to happen, that they get held hostage? | ||
| And it's because for every time that this has happened, They capitulate. | ||
| That's been the Republican response. | ||
| The reason why Donald Trump was able to hijack the Republican Party was because they surrendered it to him. | ||
| Trump didn't take it by force. | ||
| He just won it through attrition. | ||
| They just gave up. | ||
| Now they're seeing what happens when you let that happen. | ||
| There's a reason why, Joy. | ||
| The United States motto is we don't negotiate with terrorists. | ||
| This is the reason why. | ||
| Yeah, for me, a lot of what we're seeing now, which is really the complete neutering of leadership, started about eight years ago, in June, in 2014, when Dave Brat defeated the sitting House Majority Leader, Eric Cantor. | ||
| That was the first chink in the armor of leadership. | ||
| the first time that this right-wing faction within the Republican Party at the time, the Tea Party, now has morphed into the MAGA movement. | ||
| That side got an actual, what they would call a scalp. | ||
| They successfully took one of the members of the establishment down. | ||
| They've always been operating from the assumption that Democrats were the opposition, but their own leadership, their own establishment was their true enemy. | ||
| That's what the Steve Bannons and the Laura Ingrams and a Mark Levins and that crowd at that time, that's what they preached. | ||
| And in defeating Cantor, they were able to actually see that through. | ||
| That gave them the momentum to then go after other leaders. | ||
| A year later, John Boehner not just leaves the speakership, he leaves Congress altogether. | ||
| Few years after that, Paul Ryan leaves Congress altogether. | ||
| So they have seen this collective ability to take down the top leaders in the party. | ||
| And it's just been a few of them, just small voices that have hijacked the party. | ||
| And every single time this confrontation has come to a head, the Republican leadership capitulates. | ||
| Okay, it's Wednesday, 4 January in the year of our Lord, We've got Wanchi Shanz in Brazil, the hatchet man, the enforcer, and quite frankly, the evil but brilliant strategist for Xi is in Brazil for Lula's inauguration. | ||
| We've got a team on the border in Mexico. | ||
| We've got a team in the Vatican. | ||
| We have major news. | ||
| We've got issues with a debt contagion, maybe even spreading from Japan to other places. | ||
| We have major news. | ||
| But all that's got to be just put aside for today because we're in a historic moment and the next couple hours may determine the direction of all this. | ||
| Kurt Bardella, welcome to the War Room. | ||
| And I didn't want to start with all the Fox stuff and everything that's happened. | ||
| We're going to get to that. | ||
| I got Russ Vogt. | ||
| One of President Trump's most ardent supporters. | ||
| And you should understand the framework we're dealing with. | ||
| President Trump did come out this morning with a truth social, a truth I guess they call them, with a backing Kevin McCarthy all in. | ||
| You got to take the win, take the victory. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Send Nancy Pelosi home and move on. | ||
| Russ Vought, one of his most ardent supporters, has come out on Twitter and said, yeah, I love President Trump. | ||
| We back him, but I'm not seeing this and these guys are not going to back down. | ||
| Corey Lewandowski is going to join us. | ||
| Got Mike Davis, Ralph Norman, and a couple of what is now, they're referring to him as a Taliban 20. | ||
| This is how ugly it's going to get. | ||
| But I want to give you the history of this, because it's very important, because this just didn't happen overnight. | ||
| This has been building for 10 or 12 years. | ||
| And the tell here – I've got Dave Brat and I want to – Kurt Bardella, who is the – one of the biggest haters out there. | ||
| He was Daryl Issa's comms director before he got caught in a controversy and got let go by Issa, a very talented guy but not an ideologue. | ||
| He worked for me at Breitbart. | ||
| He was there. | ||
| He saw what went on and he understands. | ||
| The history here, and particularly going back to 2014, it really started with the Tea Party movement in 10, but the real, it came to a head at the first wave with defeating Eric Cantor. | ||
| Remember, Eric Cantor is just not any guy. | ||
| He was a majority leader. | ||
| The first time in the history of the American Republic. | ||
| In 2014, that a sitting majority leader was defeated in a primary. | ||
| And the reason this is so historic for our audience, particularly you guys who are just coming on to politics in the last couple of years, you have to understand the history, is that Zuckerberg was set, they were going to have a big festival the next day to come on Capitol Hill with what the Republican Party had done about the defeat of Romney in 12. | ||
| They had this thing called the The assessment or the analysis and they were going to basically back DACA. | ||
| They were going to have a massive in ratio. | ||
| It was all set for the like the next day or the day after in Washington. | ||
| Cantor gets defeated by an unknown economics professor from Randolph-Macon. | ||
| Really led the tip of the spear then Laura Ingraham and her radio show. | ||
| I don't think she wouldn't even want to focus on Laura Ingraham's radio show. | ||
| In the Natalie Winters of her day, Julia Hahn, a young 20-year-old graduate from the University of Chicago was her producer. | ||
| Eventually worked for us at Breitbart and went to the White House with us in the victory. | ||
| Because this was really the beginning of the real Trump movement. | ||
| One of the things it was all about was spending and immigration and the border and all of it. | ||
| And Cantor was defeated. | ||
| Boehner was defeated by the motion to vacate. | ||
| Mark Meadows put it in. | ||
| Boehner just didn't step down. | ||
| They did a, you heard this term, motion to vacate? | ||
| They put a motion to vacate in and Boehner realized he didn't have the support. | ||
| He was forced out. | ||
| Then Ryan was essentially forced out. | ||
| He retired, he couldn't take it. | ||
| And now McCarthy is the fourth, right? | ||
| The fourth of the young guns plus Boehner. | ||
| And yes, it's not personal. | ||
| It's about what, this is what Russ Vought calls the heart of the cartel. | ||
| Okay, this is the heart of the cartel. | ||
| I want to bring in, I want to bring in Dave Brat. | ||
| Start with Brett, we got Russ Vote next, Corey after that. | ||
| Here's the thing, go in my getter, that's the easiest thing to do, but if you can't, and if Denver can put them up, there's a couple of articles I have up today. | ||
| They look like they're about different things, but they're actually about the thing itself. | ||
| There's a piece in The Hill that says the Senators are very concerned now about McCarthy. | ||
| He's shown so much weakness here, they don't know if he's going to be able to control this conference. | ||
| He doesn't know if he's going to be able to control the Republicans. | ||
| But the buried lead is down like ten paragraphs. | ||
| It's the same guys, Cornyn and Thune and all the collaborationists. | ||
| That worked on the omnibus bill. | ||
| And what are they worried about? | ||
| Exactly, because this audience is the head of the creditors committee. | ||
| They're worried about two things. | ||
| The debt ceiling and the appropriations bill. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Right there. | ||
| This is why Fox, all night long, and by the way, people have so many colleagues and friends over there. | ||
| It's not about people. | ||
| Not about people. | ||
| And things are going to get very personal. | ||
| It's going to get nasty, but it's not about people. | ||
| But you got Sean last night. | ||
| This morning you got Fox and Friends. | ||
| You got the Wall Street Journal. | ||
| You got the New York Post. | ||
| It's all the Murdoch Empire. | ||
| They're against, they understand the debt ceiling in our hands. | ||
| And here's the thing about the debt ceiling, there's no increase to the debt ceiling. | ||
| Sorry, no. | ||
| We're actually going to use it to come up with a plan. | ||
| There is no increase to the debt ceiling. | ||
| You're going to have to figure out with the amount of debt you have right now, you're going to have to figure it out. | ||
| We're going to have to have an adult conversation. | ||
| No more of this naive kicking the can down the road. | ||
| The same with the appropriations. | ||
| This is why they took the power out of McCarthy's hands right now, because they saw that this was coming. | ||
| This is what it's all about. | ||
| This is a spiritual war, but right now on Capitol Hill, this is just about two simple things. | ||
| Money and power. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Money and power. | ||
| And what they want, they do not want this audience. | ||
| They don't want the grassroots. | ||
| They don't want the Tea Party. | ||
| They don't want the remnants of 2014. | ||
| They don't want the Trump movement. | ||
| They do not want you at the table. | ||
| They particularly don't want you at the head of the table as the head of the creditors committee. | ||
| Dave Brat, your history from 14. | ||
| Tell us about it. | ||
| Why was it so important? | ||
| And why does it resonate today? | ||
| Kurt Bardell is 1000% correct. | ||
| This is what it goes back to, right? | ||
| It's like the movie in the Godfather that you to go back into the history of Sicily, right? | ||
| To find out what the five families are fighting about in New York in the 1950s. | ||
| You got to go back to Sicily at the turn of the century because history has meaning here. | ||
| It has it has it definitely has deep roots and it's all about the cartel. | ||
| Dave Brat. | ||
| Yeah, well, first place, these are just all my own comments. | ||
| I don't speak on behalf of anyone or any institution. | ||
| And secondly, Bardella, you know, the left, they're supposed to be loving people, but he's not too loving to me or anybody else. | ||
| And he talks about this, you know, I'm part of this grand conspiracy. | ||
| That's all news to me. | ||
| When I was on the phone asking people for 500 bucks, they said, Hey Don Quixote, how you feeling today? | ||
| That's what I got, right? | ||
| I had nothing. | ||
| I had 150,000 total versus 5 million. | ||
| And so there was no movement. | ||
| I'm not part of some orchestrated group. | ||
| I was a Presbyterian economist and he, which is fairly boring, right? | ||
| I mean, this is, I was a fairly boring liberal arts prof, you know, I love teaching and all that. | ||
| But, you know, all these names in this piece just over and over and over. | ||
| And then they abstract from policy. | ||
| I ran on policy. | ||
| Cantor was pushing an amnesty, which he said the basic principles of amnesty on all his commercials said go back to the founding fathers. | ||
| Don't think so. | ||
| And then I was an economist. | ||
| You know, I've been I was I ran on the unfunded liabilities, which were about 100 trillion back then, and the deficits, which were small then compared to what they are now. | ||
| They've been dwarfed. | ||
| And that's Federal Reserve nonsense. | ||
| Part of it was already done, right? | ||
| The 08-09, that kind of triggered me, got me excited. | ||
| But yeah, these caricatures that come about me or the Freedom Caucus guys, they can't sustain themselves on a policy argument. | ||
| And they never mention what you mentioned in the dialogue there, was the people. | ||
| The people don't get a voice here. | ||
| When you say, well, there's just 20 representatives and it's, you know, Gingrich came out with some comments and whatever, but they're, what they're missing is there's only 20 because if you dare speak out, you don't get $10 million and you lose all your committee assignments. | ||
| And there's no time. | ||
| That's what I just said is very significant, right? | ||
| If you speak out on behalf of your people, your constituents in a Republic, You get no money to get reelected. | ||
| I had the Republican machine come after me as well as the Democrats in elections because I followed, of all things, the Republican creed, right? | ||
| If the Republicans would just come out, which they didn't, leadership didn't run on any promises, but the Republican convention produces a platform which says no open borders, which we have, and they actually say in the platform we should have a wall Leadership doesn't say a word on that. | ||
| They say we're fiscally responsible. | ||
| We just had an Omnibus bill, which further bankrupted the United States of America, adding to $32 trillion in debt that, as you alluded, is causing sovereign debt crises around the world right now. | ||
| Ghana's in the paper today, and you just mentioned a few others. | ||
| That's going to have wrinkles. | ||
| And then the everlasting war camp. | ||
| We have a war going on now. | ||
| No one's approached the American people on the basic strategy and outcomes and cost benefit of what we're getting out of this war. | ||
| And so, you know, those are just a few things that might matter to the average American or conservative. | ||
| In addition to, you know, the Republican platform has God language in it, which is inspiring, and it locates our rights as the entire Western you know, Civ tradition does, our rights, our inalienable rights, which tells you right there, they come from God. There's none of that in the left. And so the Republican at home just wants to hear that glowing language coming out of Reagan about a | ||
| better day ahead, fiscal solvency, economic growth, being strong without always being at war. | ||
| And, you know, that's what I ran on and I won on that. | ||
| And so that was missing from the story. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Dave Brat, Russ Voth, Corey Lewandowski on Next in the War Room. | ||
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| Cantor in 14, Boehner threw a motion to vacate in 15, Ryan in 18 retired because he couldn't take it anymore, and now McCarthy in 2023. | ||
| Dave Brett, I know you got to bounce, but it gets down to money and power. | ||
| This gets down to Russ Vought, who's going to join us next, the theory of the case of the cartel. | ||
| That was the cartel leadership, right? | ||
| The heads of it. | ||
| But it goes much deeper. | ||
| They all went down. | ||
| They all went down. | ||
| And they went down for the muscle of this populist movement. | ||
| The Tea Party movement. | ||
| The Trump movement. | ||
| The Tea Party movement morphed into the Trump movement. | ||
| The MSNBC guys are right. | ||
| They're 100% right. | ||
| You see all this other stuff, all these other networks and Fox and stuff. | ||
| It's all confusion. | ||
| But that's all fog of war. | ||
| Focus on the signal. | ||
| This is about money and power. | ||
| The Hill newspaper, which is the newspaper for the lobbyist set, They get it. | ||
| You go down eight paragraphs. | ||
| This is what it's about. | ||
| It's about the debt ceiling and it's about the appropriations bill. | ||
| In fact, one of the guys on CNN, a former congressman, said the other day the biggest mistake, the Senate right now is talking, the biggest mistake they think they made is not putting the debt ceiling into that ominous bill. | ||
| So we're going to get to Russ Vought here in a minute. | ||
| Dave, how do people get to you? | ||
| Because now, and I'm hearing right now that they may not, They're going to convene at 12 o'clock, but there may not be a vote. | ||
| The fourth vote, remember all the big talk of McCarthy? | ||
| We're going to stay on the floor and we're going to vote nonstop throughout the night. | ||
| We're going to keep there till we break them. | ||
| And they got to that fourth vote and Donald, Byron Donald, showed that the dam was about to break. | ||
| That's why they wanted to get off the floor so quickly. | ||
| Remember, McCarthy had told people, I'm going to, if I have to go back into conference, I'm going to retire or resign from Congress and go back get on a plane to California. | ||
| They didn't want that fourth vote, right? | ||
| They knew that Dan was just about to, there was a couple of, three or four about to jump over too, and that would be the death knell for him. | ||
| So all the big talk now, now I'm hearing there's not even going to be a vote at high noon. | ||
| There may be some delay there. | ||
| They don't want that fourth. | ||
| Uh, Dave Brett, you're a hero. | ||
| You came in and started this whole thing back in 14. | ||
| How do people follow you now? | ||
| Because it is about, and you're going to be back on here many, many times talking about debt ceiling appropriations, because it's about money. | ||
| It's about power. | ||
| It's about the people versus the cartel. | ||
| That's what this comes down to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| Dave Brett, how do folks get to you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'll just close by saying we've empowered corporate America over this decade. | ||
| By the continued moderation, right? | ||
| And so now it's big tech with ESG and the woke CEO Fortune 500s and doing business with a totalitarian surveillance state called China. | ||
| The history books are going to look back at this period in shock. | ||
| And back when I was in, we made one promise, just one under Ryan and the Republican leadership, etc. | ||
| We were going to repeal Obamacare, and we didn't do that. | ||
| And so now we have socialized medicine, and that's a power center and a money center that no one will touch that's led into all sorts of public health fiascos because it's all centralized. | ||
| And so your crew knows all this. | ||
| I could go on and on, but I'm a brat economics on getter, and I don't do a whole lot of social media. | ||
| I love teaching and being the dean at Liberty University and working with the students. | ||
| That's my passion. | ||
| And being in a Christian environment with these kids is just unbelievable. | ||
| As Dave Brat leaves us, he said, Bill Britt was on here yesterday. | ||
| He said, Mike Rogers from Alabama. | ||
| Yesterday, that was the contentious conference they've ever had before they came on the floor. | ||
| He stood up and said, anybody that votes against McCarthy out there, we are stripping you of your committee assignment. | ||
| We're going to strip you of your committee assignment, which is basically the folks back home. | ||
| Hey, screw them. | ||
| And we're going to get you primaried. | ||
| They're playing Smash Mouth. | ||
| I got kicked out of the members dining room. | ||
| They couldn't strip me of any more stuff. | ||
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You got kicked out of the table, Brett. | |
| Such a good man. | ||
| You're such a good and you're a holy man. | ||
| You're a good man. | ||
| Brett, thank you so much. | ||
| God bless everyone. | ||
| Keep the faith. | ||
| God bless everybody down at Liberty. | ||
| Such a great university. | ||
| I got the Russ vote. | ||
| It's got a cold open that we specifically pulled from this morning for Russ vote. | ||
| Let's play that and we'll bring Russ in. | ||
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Say of these 20 Republicans, he gets a few, he finally, he gets there somehow. | |
| What he's offering is a speakership that the remaining crazies can bring to a halt at a moment's notice. | ||
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So how does anything function? | |
| How does anything happen? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's going to start off really broken. | ||
| And if he does have to give in, like I said, on the motion to vacate where they can remove him at any time, it could be a very short speakership. | ||
| You know, this is one of the things that when Paul Ryan took over said, you know, we need to get rid of this rule. | ||
| We need to change it so this is not hanging over me. | ||
| We never actually got rid of it. | ||
| We kind of got a handshake deal that they wouldn't use it against him. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to have no leash to do much of anything. | ||
| The good thing is that expectations are super low, that they're going to accomplish a whole lot. | ||
| It is divided government, but there are some things you have to do. | ||
| You have to fund the government at some point. | ||
| The thing that keeps me up at night is you have to increase the debt limit. | ||
| You have to avoid a debt default. | ||
| Providing Republican votes to do that is going to be extremely hard, and it's the kind of thing where if you even try to do it, they could kick you out. | ||
| So I have very low expectations for what they're going to be able to do. | ||
| And it's not just Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| I mean, again, this comes down to whoever is in charge. | ||
| Whoever is going to become Speaker is probably going to have to live under these rules, because these people have asserted their authority over the rest of the group, and I just don't see any way out of it. | ||
| Russ Vought joins us now. | ||
| Russ, he said the quiet part out loud right there. | ||
| This is what it's about. | ||
| They're very nervous. | ||
| This is why Wall Street, Journal of the Fox, they're coming hard because they understand it's the appropriations process for this coming year. | ||
| They took the gavel out of our hand for this, to pass the omnibus, but the thing that's keeping them up at night, they see the fight for the debt ceiling right here. | ||
| Russ Vought. | ||
| Is this us versus the cartel? | ||
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Absolutely, they want the ability to not change and to be able to keep on doing what they've been doing for decades and they know all of your history has been totally sound and I love the focus on Dave Brat because that was one of those canary in the coal mine moments where they knew The apparatus is coming down, but they've been able to hide the ball on really what the cartel is and how it functions, and they want to continue. | |
| You know what the debt limit is? | ||
| The debt limit right now is a balanced budget requirement that we have in law. | ||
| And then you have this former Republican staff saying, the biggest thing keeping me up at night is we're not going to be able to violate the balanced budget requirement in law. | ||
| I mean, this is why we have failed for decades. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| That was, by the way, that was the comms director for Paul Ryan. | ||
| That was Brendan Buck. | ||
| He's a he was a big player, still a big player in behind the scenes. | ||
| Ross, I want to go back over that because they get it. | ||
| Everybody forget all the other happy talk and it's kind of the other network. | ||
| Some of the other network is so immature how they run around. | ||
| It's like it's like you're You're in some high school cafeteria, junior high school cafeteria. | ||
| This is about money and power, okay? | ||
| This is about money and power. | ||
| They understand we're facing a sovereign debt crisis, and the only rational adults in the room is this audience. | ||
| And that's why Russ Vought and what he represents in the balanced budget he did. | ||
| Russ, talk to us about this crisis. | ||
| You've given a 10-year plan Not touching Social Security and Medicare. | ||
| You've given a 10-year plan. | ||
| That's what this fight's about. | ||
| They understand now that if we empower the people that have an understanding of what this issue is, if we're empowered now, Absolutely, and think about how a cartel works. | ||
| on that? Is that what this fight is? And that's why the Wall Street Journal and all the forces of corporate America, remember we gave corporate America everything you want. You gave them every tax cut you could. You gave them all deregulations and they turned on you. They turned on the American people viciously. Is this fight about money and power, sir? | ||
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Absolutely. And think about how a cartel works. This is a political cartel, but think about how a business cartel works. It works up until the point that someone exposes it. | |
| A business goes out there and says, well, you know what? | ||
| I care more about the price that I'm going to get. | ||
| In this case, I care more about the American people and accomplishing the objectives that they sent me to on a policy basis. | ||
| And around town, everyone likes to manage the members away from the power, which is the vote on the floor. | ||
| Or in the case of the spending, to manage them away from the appropriations fight, away from the debt limit fight. | ||
| Let's have some commissions and hearings and things. | ||
| No, let's not talk about appropriations. | ||
| Let's talk about Social Security. | ||
| Not what we fund every year, the bureaucracy. | ||
| All of that are shiny object devices that are designed by the cartel intentionally to distract away from the leverage points that the American people have to change the way that Washington works. | ||
| We are seeing that today and yesterday. | ||
| Today will be the day of slander, we will overcome the day of slander, and we will continue to crush the cartel. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| People, just be aware folks, you and your warriors here are about to be called a lot of bad names. | ||
| Talk to us about the slander day. | ||
| Today's gonna get pretty ugly and pretty tough, isn't that so? | ||
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It is. | |
| I mean, they, yesterday they tried to project some happy feelings on the floor of the house and you're totally right. | ||
| They lost control when all of a sudden 19 posted no, not the five that Mark Levin's been making fun of them. | ||
| They posted 19 and then Byron Donald showed that the roof was about to cave in. | ||
| So next thing you know, we're not talking about cots being brought out to have votes throughout the night. | ||
| Now we're talking about, oh, everyone go to their dinner. | ||
| So that's going to continue today, and you're going to see that they're going to bring out all the people to say, oh, these people are grandstanding. | ||
| Why grandstanding? | ||
| Because that's what the exposure of the cartel does. | ||
| It's going to happen all day today, and we've got to play whack-a-mole wherever we can, even when it hurts, even when we have friends and old allies on the line. | ||
| We've got to play whack-a-mole. | ||
| You don't call us grandstanders. | ||
| You're the one that's protecting the cartel. | ||
| Russ Vogt, today people need to stay in touch with you on social media and over at your great organization on your website. | ||
| How do people do it? | ||
| Because there's going to be many friends, many colleagues, people who admire President Trump. | ||
| You know, there's no two bigger supporters of President Trump than Russ and myself. | ||
| President Trump came out hard for McCarthy a little while ago. | ||
| There's going to be friends and colleagues and it's going to get nasty. | ||
| So how do they follow you, Russ? | ||
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At RussVote, at Getter, at Truth, at Twitter, and they can get us at the center at AmericaRenewing.com. | |
| Right now, all the actions on the social media channels. | ||
| By the way, Russ is the exact type of warrior. | ||
| When you're in a foxhole, you want RussVote next to you. | ||
| Brother, thank you. | ||
| Proud to have you on the show. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Okay, another warrior, Corey Lewandowski, who's been there from the beginning. | ||
| Corey's going to join us after a short commercial break. | ||
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Everything's begun and you are over. | |
| Cause we're taking down the CCP! | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCD! | ||
| Host Stephen K. Babb. Okay, welcome back. | ||
| By the way, still up in the air what we're going to be doing at noon. | ||
| We thought this was going to be the pregame. | ||
| I think they're going to convene. | ||
| Don't even know if they're going to vote. | ||
| Not having a conference right now. | ||
| The great John Levin over at the New York Post. | ||
| He's the weekend editor. | ||
| I want to bring in Corey Lewandowski. | ||
| He's quoting Representative Matt Gaetz, tells Levin at the New York Post that Gaetz has the votes to stop Kevin McCarthy from becoming Speaker today. | ||
| I want to bring in Corey Lewandowski. Corey was the campaign manager in the primary that's kind of come from behind, come out of nowhere primary, historic primary. | ||
| President Trump won at 16 with really Corey, Hope Hicks, and I think we put Stephen Miller on the plane, one or two other people. | ||
| Corey, people don't know your background. | ||
| You actually, you were state trooper, but before you, in fact, you were tapped. | ||
| Dave Bossie was on a search, I think, for president, then candidate Trump, back in as early as, I think, 14. | ||
| And he had heard about you and your work as a grassroots, organized and a grassroots guy. | ||
| You probably have a better feel for the grassroots than just about anybody in what we call Trump world. | ||
| And some things have happened in the last couple of days. | ||
| We've got the speakers fight, but we also have Ronna McDaniel yesterday. | ||
| She's on Fox nonstop. | ||
| Karl Rove and Ronna McDaniel, the kind of flip flop where they throw Newt in every now and again. | ||
| But she's just all in for McCarthy. | ||
| We've been making the case here that the speakership race in the and the head of the RNC chair race are kind of inextricably linked. | ||
| Do you agree with that theory or not? | ||
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Steve, I absolutely agree. | |
| Look, a couple things we've got to remind your viewers of. | ||
| Number one, Mitch McConnell should have lost his race for leader in the Republican Party, now the longest serving Republican leader in history, which is outrageous. | ||
| We lost the U.S. | ||
| Senate because of what happened under McConnell's leadership. | ||
| But he beat back Rick Scott for that challenge. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy, even though the Republicans took back the majority, is going to be held accountable and I think will ultimately be denied the Speaker's gavel because he weighed in in primaries against good candidates. | ||
| He weighed in against candidates who went on to win not only their primary against Kevin's recommendation, but their general elections because they were America's first candidates. | ||
| And Ronna Romney McDaniel. | ||
| who has been the RNC chair for six years, who stood up in front of Amelia Island two years ago and said, I just need two more years, this will be my last term, is now saying that the 168, the magical 168, is saying they need to have her for two more years. | ||
| Steve, when you lose elections, there has to be consequences. | ||
| And I think what we should see, what we will see, is Kevin McCarthy will be denied the gavel, and hopefully Ronna Romney will be denied the RNC chairmanship again. | ||
| Let's go back to, let's take McCarthy first and we'll take Rana. | ||
| When you say denied the gavel, you've been, Corey's the kind of guy also, when you're in a firefight, you want him in the foxhole next to you. | ||
| This is getting intense. | ||
| It's getting personal. | ||
| There's no bigger supporter of President Trump than Russ Vought or Corey Lewandowski or Steve Bannon. | ||
| President Trump came out, after thinking about it overnight, came out hard for McCarthy. | ||
| How tough is it going to get today? | ||
| And you've been in these fights before. | ||
| Why are you saying that he's going to be denied the gavel? | ||
| His guys are right now saying, hey, we don't care about Gates and this guy. | ||
| We're going to stay and we're going to vote and are going to conference. | ||
| And we don't care if we keep people here for five days. | ||
| We're going to break these people. | ||
| So what's your assessment of that? | ||
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Look, Kevin made a strategic mistake yesterday by letting people go home. | |
| If it were me and I would have been the person running for Speaker, I would have made them sit in those chairs until people are smelly and dirty and filthy and said, fine, vote for me because I'll let you go and shower. | ||
| He didn't do that. | ||
| It shows weakness. | ||
| If it were Corey Lewandowski, I would have said, I don't care what your plans are. | ||
| We're staying here until this vote is done. | ||
| And I'm the next Speaker of the House. | ||
| And if you want to extract me from the Speaker's office, you better bring the Capitol Police because Lewandowski isn't going anywhere. | ||
| Kevin doesn't have that toughness to him. | ||
| And the truth is, guys like Matt Gaetz and Ana Paulina Luna, I am a huge Donald Trump supporter. | ||
| I've been there from the beginning. | ||
| so on principle and these principled individuals aren't going to change because Donald Trump says to or not. I am a huge Donald Trump supporter. I've been there from the beginning. Steve, the grassroots is angry because we've been taken advantage of again and because six years ago, when we thought we had a new speaker coming in and was going to be Kevin at the time, it was a consensus candidate. His name was Paul Ryan and he screwed us in the first two years of the Trump administration and we haven't forgotten it yet. | ||
| it. | ||
| I want to go to—and by the way, the fight you just saw there and the angle of attack and the attitude is exactly why Trump won the primary with a handful of people. | ||
| That's exactly—that's the swagger. | ||
| Need a little of that swagger back, brother. | ||
| I want to go to Rana. | ||
| People that, a guy I consider a brother, and you consider a brother, Dave Bossie, and I consider Dave, you know, we brought him in right away to be the deputy campaign chairman, or campaign head in 16 when we won. | ||
| It was because of guys like Dave Bossie, who knows how to get down the trenches. | ||
| Dave supports her, so, and Dave's been part of that, he's the chairman of Maryland. | ||
| Dave knows a lot more about that, Cory, than Cory and Steve, so what's your take, what's your beef with Rana? | ||
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Look, my beef is this, Steve. | |
| Elections matter. | ||
| And you show me what we have done as the national party to put us in a stronger position. | ||
| The red wave did not come across that it was supposed to in 2022. | ||
| We did not see success in 2020. | ||
| We didn't see success in 2018. | ||
| And the truth is, Ronna will become, if she's re-elected, the first chairman in like a hundred years to serve four terms. | ||
| There are other people who can do this. | ||
| And she sat there in front of the committee two years ago and said, I just want to do two more years. | ||
| What happens with these people, and it reminds me of members of Congress, Who talk about term limits is, hey, term limits are for thee but not for me. | ||
| The rules apply to everybody else but not for me. | ||
| Let's let somebody get in there. | ||
| Harmeet is a very smart woman. | ||
| She's the National Committee woman from California. | ||
| She's the head of Republican lawyers for the country. | ||
| And look, we need new leadership at the RNC. | ||
| I'm so sick of hearing, hey, we knocked on this many doors and made this many phone calls. | ||
| I don't care if we didn't win. | ||
| So go start winning elections. | ||
| Go start making sure that our candidates are the right ones. | ||
| Stop living off the grift and the corruption that takes place through that building and start getting success. | ||
| And if we would have had a massive victory like we did when Barack Obama was the president or when Bill Clinton was the president, where we won 63 and 54 seats respectively in the first midterm, Then Ron and Rodney deserves to stay. | ||
| But that's not what happened here, so let's have some accountability. | ||
| How do you see this playing out? | ||
| The Rana thing is going to heat up, obviously, in the next couple of days. | ||
| We've got Caroline Wren in the second hour of the show. | ||
| How do you see this playing out? | ||
| You're not just a brilliant strategist, you're a pretty good tactician when you get into a fight. | ||
| And it's kind of fog of war, the moves you make. | ||
| I think that even though the dam was going to break, and that's why they wanted to get it out of the floor, I agree that if you're going to grind these guys, you should have grinded them overnight last night and made it hurt. | ||
| And now I hear they're not even coming in for a vote at noon. | ||
| This is what I'm hearing that may be a little different. | ||
| It's changing minute by minute because they're afraid of losing these votes. | ||
| How do you think this thing plays out? | ||
| And do you think it plays out toward Jordan or somebody else will emerge? | ||
| Structurally, walk us through the Corey Lewandowski view of the tactics here. | ||
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Steve, I think that Ray Yonkor, who is Jim Jordan's guy, should be making calls behind the scenes to say Jim actually wants this job. | |
| And if Jim comes out publicly and says, I want it, I think you'll see 80 to 100 votes go for Jim on the next vote. | ||
| Look, Kevin is losing votes every round. | ||
| He's down 20 right now. | ||
| Even guys like Byron Donalds from Florida are starting to vote for Jim Jordan. | ||
| Once that damn breaks, there's no stopping it. | ||
| Is Steve Scalise an alternative? | ||
| Potentially. | ||
| Is Jim Banks an alternative? | ||
| Potentially. | ||
| Look, I've heard the name Elise Stefanik thrown around. | ||
| I think where we are is Kevin made the strategic decision to let people go home. | ||
| I think it was a bad decision. | ||
| I also think his whip team has been, has done a terrible job. | ||
| They thought they were going into the first round, Steve, with five votes short. | ||
| They were 19 votes short. | ||
| How do you not add a count? | ||
| I mean, give me a break. | ||
| This is all you guys do. | ||
| And it tells me the weakness of the operation and what Kevin is going to do potentially is you're going to have to join with Democrats if he actually wants to get this done. | ||
| And if he does that, By the way, talk about the tactics. | ||
| I think it's Self, the guy from, the replaced the guy that had the problem up in North Texas, he's telling people yesterday nobody in the whip team ever called him. | ||
| He said they should have added my name to it. | ||
| He said I wasn't going to volunteer it, but I would have told him if they called me. | ||
| He said he's never got a call. | ||
| Byron Donalds, Is a McCarthy guy. | ||
| He was made by McCarthy. | ||
| He's kind of a made man. | ||
| That's not a small thing. | ||
| When he comes out to CNN after the second round, said, hey, I don't see how the guy gets a 218. | ||
| I'm going to jump on the Jordan train. | ||
| That's a big deal. | ||
| He's he's one of Kevin's guys. | ||
| Go ahead, sir. | ||
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Donald, Andy Ogles from Tennessee, who used to work for me, I've known for 20 years. | |
| Nobody called Andy! | ||
| They just assumed he was gonna vote for him. | ||
| No one called Ana Paulina Luna. | ||
| Down in Florida, a veteran who's a phenomenal candidate, right? | ||
| She's our candidate. | ||
| We look at these candidates across the country. | ||
| How does the whip operation not have a communication tool for all of them? | ||
| I can count to 218. | ||
| My 10-year-old can count to 218. | ||
| It's amazing to me that the McCarthy team can't count to 218. | ||
| They are so consumed with getting that gavel in front of them that they didn't do the due diligence. | ||
| And I'll tell you, Steve, I don't see how Kevin gets there. | ||
| I really don't. | ||
| I think you're going to see a consensus candidate. | ||
| The fact that Jim Jordan made an impassioned speech from the floor yesterday and Kevin lost a vote on the third vote after Jim made that speech should tell you everything you need to know that even with Jim's support, it's not coming around. | ||
| Big time. | ||
| Real quickly, whoever the speaker is, give me your angle of attack of what this House has to do. | ||
| What does this House have to do on appropriations, on debt ceiling, on investigations? | ||
| Give us the Corey Lewandowski strategy for the House. | ||
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Steve, number one, impeach Mallorca. | |
| OK, that's a simple thing to do. | ||
| It should have been done already. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the first vote that they should do. | ||
| And they have the votes to do it. | ||
| OK, number two, you better stop giving money to the Ukraine. | ||
| Sixty eight billion dollars. | ||
| Look, you know, this guy walks in with a flag signed by a bunch of jimoks over in Ukraine. | ||
| They say, hey, let's you know, let's give us another 68 billion. | ||
| What the hell is going on here? | ||
| When when do we start putting America first? | ||
| Steve, the conservatives are steaming mad because they're taking our money and sending it to everybody else for border security. | ||
| You close the border. | ||
| You fund the border wall, which you and I have talked about for the last six years. | ||
| You make sure America comes first. | ||
| It's not America last. | ||
| You do that as a Republican majority and the Senate will come our way and we win the White House in two years also. | ||
| You agree that this is the predicate, this has got to be run as the predicate for President Trump's second term. | ||
| We've got to look at this as two years that we've got to chop, clear a lot of brush underway so that we get back in January 25 and really run the tables, correct? | ||
| That's your theory of the case here? | ||
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That's exactly right, Steve. | |
| And look, our last line of defense right now are these Republican governors around the country, Ron DeSantis and Henry McMaster and others that are stopping, you know, what's going on from the administration. | ||
| I give praise to Greg Abbott down in In Texas and so many others who've stepped up and said, we won't take this anymore. | ||
| And so look, if we have to, we will use the governor's executive authorities around this country to prevent the overreach from the federal government and take them to court. | ||
| Because every time we go to court, Biden's administration loses. | ||
| We've done a great job on that. | ||
| We need to keep that pressure on them. | ||
| Corey, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| How do they get to your writings and your website? | ||
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Look, best thing to do is go to Elon, baby, which is just Twitter. | |
| Go to C. Lewandowski at the Elon panel, right? | ||
| I mean, look, Elon is the only thing that saved us. | ||
| What we now know, Steve, is that the big tech companies have colluded to go against guys like me and you. | ||
| So thank you, Elon, for giving us a platform. | ||
| Thank you for exposing the corruption that's going on out there. | ||
| And let's keep up the fight. | ||
| Corey Lewandowski, thank you very much. | ||
| Thank you for your for your swagger, sir. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
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Take care. | |
| That's the kind of fight we need, right? | ||
| I don't get... I mean, this is what won in 16. | ||
| And remember, they mocked and ridiculed Corey. | ||
| Oh, he's some grassroots guy. | ||
| He's working up with, I think, the Americans for Prosperity up in New Hampshire. | ||
| Who is this guy? | ||
| And he ran a magnificent primary campaign. | ||
| He came out of nowhere to absolutely stun everybody. | ||
| That's the kind of fight, swagger, cussedness that you need right now. | ||
| It's going to get... | ||
| Extremely ugly over the next couple days. | ||
| So just strap in if you want to say hey, we got to take it on now We got to break the cartel now. | ||
| We can't We can't we can't give an inch here if you give an inch They're just going to run the tape. | ||
| They're just going to roll you. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| We've got Mike Davis is going to join us to give us his thoughts. | ||
| We've had quite a morning so far with Brat, Russ and Corey. | ||
| We've got Norman in the second hour. | ||
| We've got Caroline Wren, others. | ||
| We've got to get some other news in too. | ||
| We're going to figure out how to get it all in around the Ralph Norman interview in the next hour. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Mike Davis will join us on the other side. | ||
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| Okay, I just want to make sure that – because this is inextricably linked with the history of this. | ||
| And a lot of people – this audience knows most of it. | ||
| Some of them know all of it. | ||
| But when you look at the Fox and the CNN and MSNBC, they have no earthy idea what's going on. | ||
| You had the Reagan revolution in 1980, right? | ||
| And that was started by the Bush guy starting with Jim Baker and that crowd even as early as 1984. | ||
| He then had the Gingrich Revolution in 1994 and Mike Davis, one of our big contributors, was part of that as a young intern towards the end of that. | ||
| He then had the Tea Party Revolt of 2010, which he won 63 seats. | ||
| Now, we did win it off 174 base. | ||
| So he got up to the mid… Two forties, two thirties, in house seats. | ||
| And then you had the day, Brad, we started at two fourteen, which Bardell is walking through today, which the taking down of the kind of the young guns, the Cantor, Boehner, Ryan, and now McCarthy. | ||
| Then you had Trump come on the scene really in fourteen. | ||
| But particularly in 15 when he announced, but he was actually working it in 14, right after the, in fact, the first time I actually saw him in real action, besides the CPACs, was in 2014 in New Hampshire on the 1st of May. | ||
| A cattle call put on by Dave Bossie, which Trump dominated, right? | ||
| 30 days after that was Dave Barrett's stunning primary defeat. | ||
| The first time in American history of a sitting majority leader, Eric Cantor, When Dave Brat talked about how he only raised $150,000, Dave Brat raised $150,000. | ||
| He spent $125,000. | ||
| He had $25,000 in the bank. | ||
| He spent $125,000 in a primary. | ||
| Eric Cantor had spent more for one dinner at Johnny Vans or whatever it is in D.C. | ||
| for donors to his campaign. | ||
| He had spent more in one dinner than Dave Brat spent on the entire campaign. | ||
| And then you had the rise of the Trump movement, the surprise, stunning victory in 2016, which really made Mitch McConnell because we dragged Blunt and Toomey and Johnson across the finish line and Burr at the end. | ||
| They didn't think we were going to take the Senate. | ||
| That was all Donald Trump. | ||
| And here we are today in 2023. | ||
| And that's what this fight is. | ||
| It is about the cartel. | ||
| And if you're going to continue to do it, what the opposition, instead of, oh, we're constitutional conservatives, you guys are populist, you guys are terrible. | ||
| Just let's cut all the crap. | ||
| Let's put all that aside. | ||
| Let's talk about the reality here. | ||
| We're a nation that is stone cold bankrupt, except the fact that our number one export happens to be the U.S. | ||
| dollar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And now you're seeing sophisticated people around the country saying, look, I think we're seeing a potential sovereign debt crisis in Japan. | ||
| A potential sovereign debt crisis in Italy, which is the seventh biggest industrial economy in the world. | ||
| Essentially a sovereign debt crisis in the UK, a sovereign debt crisis in China, and guess what? | ||
| Truly a sovereign debt crisis here in the good old United States of America. | ||
| This is serious. | ||
| Until they can come back with a theory of how you actually do this, how you get control of spending, what do you do with the debt ceiling, what do you do with the debt and the unfunded liabilities, until they come with a serious adult argument, Screw them, okay? | ||
| This is called command by negation. | ||
| In military and in mergers and acquisitions and hostile takeovers, this is called command by negation. | ||
| All you got to do is hang together. | ||
| Mike Davis, you've been around this a long time. | ||
| In my history there, it's been the populist, grassroots, limited government, conservative movement versus the cartel for many, many years now. | ||
| And this is just the latest iteration. | ||
| And that's why with all the smoke they're running around and all this misdirection play, it gets down to money and power. | ||
| Is that not true, sir? | ||
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That's absolutely right. | |
| And when you have people like Kevin McCarthy, he takes Money from corporate PACs, and he does their bidding, whether it's the trillion-dollar Big Tech Monopolis, Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple, the pharmaceutical industry, the military industry. | ||
| If you want Kevin McCarthy's attention, you better have a $5,000 PAC check, because he has shown over the last many years he does not give a damn about Every day Americans in the real world, whether it is the BLM Antifa riots, COVID lockdowns, the gender chaos in schools, gender affirming care, which is the Democrats' nice way of saying mutilating kids with surgeries and hormone pills. | ||
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Where has Kevin McCarthy been? | |
| Let's leave the Democrats aside. | ||
| You've got the oligarchs of Silicon Valley, you've got Big Pharma, you've got the military-industrial complex, you've got so many veterans in our movement. | ||
| we have a lot of the work but but let's listen to democrats aside how did the corporate you get the oligarchs in silicon valley you get big pharma you get the military industrial complex get so many veterans in our movement how did the corporations which used to be the the bedrock of the republican party that you take care of the you know the business of america's business You give them tax cuts, you give them deregulation, all's going to be good. | ||
| How did that get to be almost a more threatening and more radical aspect than even the radicals in the Democratic Party, sir? | ||
| Because the Marxist left has taken over every institution in America, whether it's government, academia, corporate boards through these pain-in-the-neck employees and pain-in-the-neck uh... activist investors these boards of god will to try to silence them i've called all of the many other companies it they had the left it is so much better | ||
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so much smarter so much of subversive than that we are as conservatives they know how to to earn power they had to take power they not a win and uh... they've done this over the last Two decades. | |
| Actually, longer than that. | ||
| When they've taken over the military, when the Marxist left has taken over the military, you know they're in trouble. | ||
| And where has Kevin McCarthy been? | ||
| Where has he been? | ||
| He's basically investor relations for the Marxist left. | ||
| He just takes their calls and does their bidding. | ||
| And where you're seeing this most is really, the thing that's choked us down, they had another dump last night of the CIA and the FBI involvement in Twitter about the hard drive from hell, the laptop from hell, is absolutely stunning. | ||
| What Big Tech did in the merger with the FBI and the CIA is nothing more than, I mean, I'm stunned by these revelations. | ||
| They're actually jaw-dropping. | ||
| I'll tell you what, Mike, if we can hold you through a break, it's a 90-second break, because I want to ask Mike Davis Who is a fighter. | ||
| How does this play out today? | ||
| We're hearing right now, it's still up in the air. | ||
| Are they going to come back and have the fourth vote? | ||
| They're not going to have the fourth vote. | ||
| We thought they're going to stay there all day long. | ||
| They're in conference, they're not in conference. | ||
| It's the fog of war, and that's what this audience likes best. | ||
| In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. | ||
| We're going to play some one-eyed jacks when we get back. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Mike Davis joins us. | ||
| I think we're getting John Fredericks, Caroline Wren. | ||
| We're jammed up today on RNC Chair and the Speakership. | ||
| All of it about money and power. |
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