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Dec. 22, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bask.
And now Ukraine desperately needs more capabilities, including long-range missiles, ATAKMS.
Maybe I sound naive, but can we make a long story short and give Ukraine all capabilities it needs and liberate all territories rather sooner than later?
Thank you.
His answer is yes.
joe scarborough
laughter Well, a moment of levity between President Biden and President Zelensky of Ukraine as the two leaders held a joint news conference at the White House yesterday, a historic moment.
Later in the day, Zelensky entered the House chamber to thunderous applause, shaking hands with lawmakers from both sides of the aisle.
Here's some of that historic address.
unidentified
Against all odds, And doom and gloom scenarios Ukraine didn't fall.
Ukraine is alive and kicking.
Thank you for both financial packages you have already provided us with and the ones you may be willing to decide on.
Your money is not charity.
It's an investment in the global security and democracy that we handle in the most responsible way.
If Russian missiles attack us, we'll do our best to protect ourselves.
If they attack us with Iranian drones, and our people will have to go to bomb shelters on Christmas Eve, Ukrainians will still sit down at the holiday table and cheer up each other.
And we don't, don't have to know everyone's wish, as we know that all of us, millions of Ukrainians, wish the same.
Victory.
Only victory.
Standing here today, I recall the words of the President Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
steve bannon
Okay, okay.
Let me have it.
I can't take listening to this.
We got more slobbering that will come on after this speech.
A Ukrainian lobbyist That's what he is.
A Ukrainian lobbyist came in and made his pitch because this is about money and weapons, weapons of money.
Just remember how many, what, 40, the Pentagon estimate, not the war room's estimate, Pentagon's estimate, 40,000 Ukrainian civilians are dead.
Right?
And the EU president said that 100,000 troops are dead.
So 140,000.
That's her number and that's the Pentagon's number on civilians.
40,000.
10 months into this war that is on the cusp of escalating.
And you saw, I want to make sure that you remember every Republican that slobbered on him and had to take McCall from Texas.
People in Texas ought to be ashamed that McCall's in the U.S.
House.
Absolutely.
These are pure warmongers.
This is going to end up in a settlement, right?
It's going to end up in a settlement because the Russians are... and the Russian people are not going to back off.
They're just not.
That's what they're made of.
We don't condone this war we said that there's a border dispute over there that's been kicking for thousands of years it's now Been really up since 2014 when the u.s.
This is Mershimer of Chicago as we've pushed forward the EU right to Ukraine to be part of the EU as we've pushed forward NATO into Ukraine historic Uh, sphere of influence of Russia, right?
Part of Russia for, for, for on and off millennia.
Um, and here's where we are.
You're sitting there in a full out escalation.
That's the American elite right there.
And that was, that was, he came because he's savvy.
I mean, he's smarter than our guys.
One of the problems is we have morons.
We've got Mitch McConnell.
You saw him blubber.
This is the number one priority, I think he called it.
I put it up on my Getter account.
Number one priority.
The number one priority we have.
And this is why we've got to rush through.
Last night, the omnibus slowed down because of Mike Lee and some amendments on, wait for it, Title 42 about the security of our own border, since there's so much money going in to secure Ukraine's border.
And the number overall is $100 billion.
The $55 billion right here will take us over $100 billion of your cash.
$100 billion.
This is pure escalation.
Yesterday was to show the Europeans who don't want to pay anymore.
The European elites still want to put money, but the people of Europe are out, not interested.
Right?
They're gonna have a cold, bitter winter from Germany to Italy to France.
They're not, they're not, they're having a tough time finding the cash.
And it's their deal.
It should be Europe's deal.
We bailed Europe out enough.
Bailed them out in World War I. Bailed them out in World War II with American arms and American blood, our blood and treasure.
We bailed them out in the Cold War, once again.
I think with the Berlin Wall coming down, you guys could figure it out.
We've only been around for, what, 500 years?
Since, what, 1603, 1602?
You guys have been around from time immemorial.
Think you could figure it out?
Can't do it.
Need American money, American blood and treasure again, right?
Need it again.
And this is just unsatisfactory.
You're up there with this omnibus bill, and one of the big things, we gotta do it because we gotta get this money to the Ukraine.
Have to get this money to the Ukraine.
And even Henry Kissinger was a big fanboy of this war at the beginning.
He's in Davos talking about, you know, Zelensky's like Churchill.
He's Davos talking big talk.
He's now saying, oh, no, no, no, no.
We've got to negotiate.
This thing's got to be negotiated.
They've got to get to the table or you're going to escalate into, wait for it, the Third World War.
Now, we have vital national security interests on the southern border.
Todd Bensman has got a magnificent piece up in Daily Mail, and I'm so glad that Daily Mail is now working with Todd Bensman, the biggest paper in the world.
He's got an exclusive that we're going to get to Bensman in a second.
As the invasion happens in your country, and they've got, outside of El Paso, the equivalent of two army divisions, 20,000 people ready to come across us, walk in, And you're going to pay for it, right?
You know why?
Because they're poor and they want better jobs.
Hey, I got that.
There's a logic there.
And if the place is open, why not?
And maybe I get a phone, I get an EBIT card to, you know, get on food stamps and they're going to bus me to, you know, to Kansas City.
Hey, Kansas City is better.
I got a better shot getting a job at Kansas City than I got my home.
Why not?
I'll do it.
You know, I'll risk the cartels.
Now, the cartels are going to make a ton of money.
They're going to ship some fentanyl here.
Enough, as the Daily Mail reports today, to kill every American in the Second Opium War.
But no, the vital national security interest of the United States in the South China Sea and in Taiwan, because we've allowed the chip business, Silicon Valley West is in Taiwan, right?
And all of our hard allies in Japan and Australia, the littoral nations around the South China Sea, India, just to throw out a couple of three, right, to stop the Chinese Communist Party from controlling the Eurasian landmass, all happen to be in that part of the world, and we've got to keep that ceiling open, and we have to protect Taiwan.
That's the vital national security interest of the United States.
Because we lose those chips, the economy will drop 25%.
The southern border, for your sovereignty, vital national security interest of the United States.
The eastern The Russian-speaking eastern border Ukraine is not only not in the vital, let me underline that, the vital national security interest of the United States, it has nothing to do with the national security interest of the United States.
Okay?
That's a European deal.
And it's time we stop bailing Europe out.
They've got plenty of money.
They've got a lot of wealthy people.
NATO is a total and complete joke and everybody that knows anything about NATO knows that.
They don't put up any money, they don't have really any combat divisions, they can't field any troops, and the troops they fight can't really fight.
They've got some special forces and they're there in tiny amounts when you need them, but they can't stand up to Russia.
And by the way, haven't we been told by MSNBC and CNN and all the people that impeached Trump on the first impeachment, haven't we been told every day Russia's losing, Russia's falling, he's about to be overthrown, we try to crush They're a central bank.
We try to crush their currency.
He's falling.
And now all of a sudden they're panic buying.
Zelensky's got to get over here and not just talk about it, he's got to secure the cash.
Because he understands this.
If the Omnibus doesn't pass with this 55 billion dollars and part of the Patriot missile system, he's out of business.
You know why he's out of business?
Because nobody else on earth is going to write him a check like that.
Europeans are not going to do it.
He's out of business.
He and the oligarchs are gone.
And he can't even sit there and say, you're right, this stuff should be audited and we're going to put in any type of controls that you absolutely need.
The American people, we will guarantee that you get a fair accounting.
No, they're skimming it off the top.
The SBF guy just got sent back to New York yesterday.
The money laundering through Ukraine.
Ukraine is the third most corrupt nation on earth up there with the Russian oligarchs.
Okay, Rebecca Koffler, you know the KGB and you know Putin better than anybody.
You wrote the definitive book on him and his strategy.
Give us your sense of the performance last night of the con artist known as Zelensky.
rebekah koffler
This was a stellar performance, Steve.
orchestrated by the Ukrainian and Washington political establishment.
I mean, this was all by design.
Four days before Christmas, Zelensky appeared in his typical signature military style, you know, crew neck sweater, cargo pants, you know, he's playing Churchill in a t-shirt.
trying to shake down yet again the American people.
And he understands that this is not the first time that he's gonna try to do that.
And this is why he adapted his tone.
He's very sophisticated.
He's an actor.
Remember, his previous job was playing president on TV in a show called the Servant of the People.
And so he pushed all the difficult buttons.
You know, he invoked the themes of democracy and freedom and unity with the United States.
And a lot of it is a lie.
As you said, Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
123rd out of 180.
123rd out of 180, Russia is 139.
And so we have already provided what amounts to 50% of Ukraine's GDP, okay?
That in 2021 was $100 billion.
And to rebuild Ukraine, if this war will ever end, which it won't, by the way, my assessment is, and I can explain why, but to rebuild it, Ukrainians themselves have admitted it will be another 750 billion.
So this is a bottomless pit.
And the American people are catching on to this fact that this is another, you know, an Afghanistan 2.0.
That's what we see unraveling before our eyes.
And so 47% of Americans right now are not in favor of keeping this as an open spigot in debt and security aid to Ukraine.
They want The Biden administration put pressure on Zelensky to settle.
We need peace in Ukraine.
Ukrainian people are dying by the thousand, as you said, 100,000.
steve bannon
No, but this money is to, because now they've got this fantasy, they're rounding up militia of basically civilians with guns.
Now they're trying to take in Crimea.
The Russians are coming in for it.
The Russians are so terrible because they're using winter.
They must not have studied the military history of Russia.
Winter is a weapon for them.
It's helped defeat a couple of previous people, Napoleon Bonaparte and Adolf Hitler, and that's just among a couple, right?
They know how to fight in the winter.
They're going to fight.
There's not a military solution here.
The military industrial complex, the same national security complex that removed Donald Trump from office, The same complex that General Eisenhower warned us about has to have a war to keep the profits going, okay?
Kennedy in Vietnam, right?
They took him out.
You got Richard Nixon.
They took out Trump.
They took out Nixon.
They took out Trump.
It's obvious to anybody that can look at it and look at the evidence.
That's overwhelming.
And now they're sitting here and they gotta be able to pour in You know, hundreds of billions of dollars into the bottomless pit of the Ukraine.
Okay, short break.
Rebecca Koffer is going to join us on the other side.
We have Todd Bensman with his magnificent piece about the invasion of your country and the fentanyl that's coming in and the cartels.
We got oligarchs in Ukraine and cartels in Mexico.
They're making off the money, making all the money on the U.S.
taxpayer.
So you feel good?
You feel good you got those guys as partners?
You're gonna feel better in the next segment of the war room.
unidentified
Let's take down the CCB!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
A beautiful, beautiful day.
joe scarborough
Anne Applebaum, the Atlantic's Anne Applebaum.
Only victory.
What an extraordinary speech last night.
An extraordinary bipartisan display.
Your takeaway from, main takeaway from President Zelensky's day in Washington yesterday.
unidentified
I think the most important thing that he said is one of the sentences you just captured.
Namely, that this is not charity.
That this is an American investment in American security and international security.
All you have to do is think about- Okay, stop.
steve bannon
I can't even take it.
I can't even take 30 seconds of it.
Anne Applebaum, to give the devil her due, did write, I think, to me, I think the definitive book, there have been others that are very good, called Red Famine, that texts you about the Russians and the starving of the, killing I think four or five million of Ukrainians, starved them to death in the 1930s.
But her current assessment, no, it's not an investment.
Stop that.
Remember, every time Democrats spend money, all that $1.6 trillion, That's not an expense, that's all investment.
Every time they've got to piss away your money, it's got to be an investment.
It's not an investment.
What's happening in Ukraine, the Eastern speaking border Ukraine, is in the vital national security interest of Europe.
Absolutely, no doubt.
And they should be all on it.
From Davos, the rich folks up in Switzerland, all those rich folks up there.
All those rich counts and lords and the king of Norway, and they got all these, you know, the royal family.
I saw the funeral for the queen.
It took a week.
I got guys in red uniforms and looking good.
They got all those beautiful cathedrals.
Got all that money.
Remember, we got kicked out of all those countries, right?
We got kicked out of all those countries.
We went back in World War I, and World War I, remember, was not popular after the war at all.
The America First Movement.
Lindbergh and these guys were sitting there going, we don't do it.
FDR looked the American people in the eye and lied to them in the campaign against Wendell Wilkie when he said, under no circumstances, no circumstances will American boys ever go back on my watch and fight in a European land war.
That's how much the American people hated What happened in World War I and hated the League of Nations where it came out.
They said no more.
We did one time.
We did it.
We freed these guys.
Boom.
We're out.
Count me out.
Right?
And you read all the Pearl Harbor Commission reports and the investigation study, you think the Warren Commission has got a few holes in it?
Read General Marshall, who mourning Joe and all the historians, General Marshall is revered, the revered General Marshall.
Yeah, well, read his testimony, because I have, which I know Joe Scarborough and Mika have not.
Read his testimony in Pearl Harbor and you get a little shaky, a little shaky.
That's how they got him into, that's how they got him into World War II.
And remember, we never declared war on Hitler.
Hitler declared war on us two days after Pearl Harbor.
Always remember that.
He declared war on us.
Because of his secret treaties he had with the Japanese.
To guess what?
Wait for it, control the Eurasian landmass.
Okay?
Right now, this is the biggest con, and you're gonna pump, if you think, and we just came off of 22 years in Iraq and Afghanistan with, what, 9 trillion dollars, 7 trillion in Iraq, 2 trillion in Afghanistan, what 7, 8,000 dead, 50,000 combat injuries, casualties, you know, was it PTSD, killing each other every day, fentanyl out of control, the veterans sleeping on the streets,
No, but let's do it again here in Ukraine.
It is not in the vital national security interest of the United States.
It's Europe's deal.
Let Europe deal with it.
Let them write the $55 billion check.
If you did a plebiscite to the nations of Europe who are on the line, it would be categorical.
You can't do it, man.
Can't do it.
Get to the table and negotiate, because you're not getting the Crimea back.
Remember, it was Bush and Obama on their watch.
Big ol' tough talking Joe Biden.
All that happened on your watch as VP.
Where's all the tough talk?
Where are you guys then?
Where was that?
I think Crimea's a little, you know, I think Crimea's pretty important.
Hey, where is it?
Boom.
Gone.
You're not getting those eastern, you're not going to get those eastern provinces back.
Not in our lifetime.
And Henry Kissinger is telling that what you're going to do is escalate to get us in a shooting war with the Russians.
The Russian people, remember this, don't believe all the lies and misrepresentations out of the history books.
The Russian people and Lao Bajing, the Chinese people, not their leaders, Not Chiang Kai-shek and Mao Zedong and not Stalin in this crowd, no.
Not three sets of gangsters.
The people of China and the people of Russia were our principal allies in World War II.
And God bless the British and the French that fought and, you know, everybody that fought with us.
Hey, the principal allies, the people that took the blows, were the Russian people and the Chinese people.
What is it?
35 or 40 million, 50 million dead Russians?
Another 25 or 30 million dead Lao-Beijing?
They took the brunt of the Wehrmacht and the Imperial Japanese Army.
They took it.
That's how we were able to, as horrible as our casualties were, right?
We were able to fight on the periphery and drive to the capitals because of the blows that they took.
Okay?
The blows they took.
Not the elite.
Where were the Swiss in World War II?
You know where the Swiss were?
Pulling gold out of the Jews' mouths.
That's where they were.
That's where they were.
Where are they now?
Screw you guys.
You step up.
It was such a big deal.
Don't send the lobbyist over here.
And now you're all French.
Everybody's a French person.
It's a French Republican.
No, it's 40, 50% of the American people.
And when they know the facts, it's going to be 90% of the American people.
Zelensky's not dumb.
He's smart.
He's savvy.
He came over to make the pitch.
He made the pitch right where Churchill stood after Pearl Harbor.
Made the pitch.
Right there.
Made the pitch.
Remember, British intelligence working non-stop to get us into the war, into the land war.
Non-stop British intelligence.
That's open secret.
So where do we go from here, Rebecca Koffler?
How close are we to escalating a land war with the Russians over this situation, the eastern border of Ukraine, particularly this offensive that they're coming with artillery this winter?
How close are we to escalating into a, that's not going to be a proxy, there will be a war between the United States and Russia over in Ukraine.
How close are we, ma'am?
rebekah koffler
We are sleepwalking into a direct shooting war with Russia, as Joe Biden, you know, said those words himself.
How do we know this?
Because I served in the intelligence community, and I spent my intelligence career on Putin's target and Russian doctrine and strategy.
And I even wrote a book about it, because I was one of the very first people within the community talking.
A warning about the Russian threat.
I briefed myself, NATO, Steve, in the run-up to Putin's invasion of Ukraine.
In September 2013, I briefed military and political leaders of 28 countries.
At that point, NATO had 28 countries.
They did nothing, Steve.
Even today, only 8 countries out of 30 contribute.
Two percent to the collective defense pity, okay?
They refuse to provide for their own security because it's very convenient for them to throw Ukrainians into the woodchipper.
You know, basically, we are bleeding Ukraine By trying to bleed the Russian military.
I mean, General Milley and Lloyd Austin themselves admitted that we are going to provide help to Ukraine, pumping the American taxpayer for more and more cash for as long as needed.
Well, guess what?
The Russians view all of this help, as escorted specifically, the Patriot missile defense system, which is one of the most sophisticated missile defense systems on the market that rivals the Russian S-400s.
And so these are very expensive systems.
It costs $4 million per interceptor, and there are 16 of them on one launcher.
The launcher costs $10 million.
But the Russians are viewing that system as strategic, because it blunts their nuclear deterrent on which Russia relies for its security.
And so what they are saying is that the Americans and the Europeans are cornering Russia Trying to cause nuclear war, because Russia knows that the minute that we, God forbid, deploy forces into the theater, that will trigger Russia's nuclear low-yield tactical nuclear warhead to be detonated in Ukraine.
We war game this.
There were dozens and dozens of war games in the intelligence community.
Every single one of them ended up in a nuclear Armageddon.
This is why Biden themselves warned us about this about a month ago.
Well, not us, his donors.
And so they keep pumping and pumping the weaponry into Ukraine.
And it's just a matter of time before it erupts.
And it will definitely erupt because Putin He views Ukraine as part of Russia, and not just Putin, like you mentioned, Steve, yourself, a minute ago.
It's the Russian people.
They are behind him.
75% approval rating, 78% trust him.
And so Russia views Ukraine as part of its strategic security perimeter.
It's their version of the Monroe Dock, right?
And so they will go to nuclear war.
unidentified
They're essentially doing it with the cartels.
steve bannon
Rebecca, real quickly, how'd they get to your writing, your columns in the Post, Fox News, your book, all of it, social media.
We're going to get Todd Benson up here in a second to talk about the other part of the equation in Mexico.
How'd they get to you, Rebecca?
rebekah koffler
I have a website, RebeccaKofler.com.
I'm on YouTube.
You can Google me, Rebecca Kofler, Fox News, and New York Post.
I regularly publish my unclassified intelligence analysis.
I'm on Twitter, Getter, and now also on True Social.
My handle is at Rebecca0132.
steve bannon
Former defense intelligence analyst, Rebecca Koffler, giving us the declassified part of it.
Thank you very much, Rebecca.
Really appreciate it.
Todd Benson is going to be here.
So we're going to go to the other part of the equation, which is in the vital national security interests of the United States, the cartels and our southern border.
Also, we're going to go to Georgia.
Big breakthrough on the stealing of the 2020 election.
And of course, we're going to go to Arizona.
We've got all of it.
Also, we're going to get into this fiasco on Capitol Hill on Next in the World.
Your host, Stephen K. Bass.
Okay, welcome back.
Numbers 202-224-3121.
Schumer worked out this hinky deal with this gimmick that they're going forward now.
They had the thing hung up on a Title 42 amendment from Mike Lee, but they worked something on the Democratic side.
Here's what you've got to do on the call.
And particularly, everybody's on the list that voted the other day, but also the Ted Cruz's and the Rand Paul's.
Nobody's off the hook here.
Any one senator that had stones or any collection of these guys... So first of all, all these guys think about running for president.
You just failed your first and massive test.
You did not have a profile and courage to stand up against Mitch McConnell and stand up to this.
And Braun in Indiana is going to go run for governor.
All of you wear the scarlet letter of F of failure.
Every person, there's so many techniques you can use.
They had unanimous consent for a bunch of this stuff.
There's so many techniques you can use in the U.S.
unidentified
Senate.
U.S.
steve bannon
Senate rules are very different than the House rules.
Much more imperial, kind of like the Senate of Rome.
Much more privileged for each senator.
You had every opportunity.
Don't let them, they're not going to get off this and go on Fox, and this is terrible, and this is spending these Democrats.
No, this is you.
This is you.
It's time to have a partner's discussion, and you guys suck.
This is a disgrace.
You've just given, the United States Senate has just given, I want to make sure when this thing's passed today and had every opportunity to stop it.
And Kevin McCarthy, no offense, you went to the, the Hill ratted you out.
You went to the Senate lunch yesterday and you did not throw down with fireballs and say, if you guys don't step up in the next 24 hours and defeat this and give it to me, delay it for two weeks, two weeks.
So that I can get control of this.
Uh, we will have this thing sorted.
You gave Nancy Pelosi another year, another entire year.
And all these guys are putting up, you know, the things that's got $50,000 study catfish and $4 million do this.
Yes, that's all important.
And Ron Johnson's up there with, I'm putting up an amendment to take out the, uh, the earmarks.
That's all irrelevant.
That's performative.
That's just optics.
It's just optics.
There's a great piece that we're going to try to get the author on because he's all happy.
He's got 500 comments in the Wall Street Journal.
We'll give you 50,000 comments when we get you on War Room.
Vince Colbert, I think it is, talks about, there's a hundred, and this calculation is actually correct.
Norman, the congressman, you remember on this show when he said the day we're going to vote for McCarthy, he says, hey, we really have $60 trillion in debt because you've got to count in The hard obligations that we have that are really debt for Medicare and Social Security.
When you really add it up, and Colbert did a great job on the editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, $100 trillion, and that does not include the contingent liabilities on the dollar.
So anywhere from $60 to $100 trillion.
This Christmas, you know, when you got the gifts and the little kids are running around, just look at the little kids.
Look at everybody under 35 and your family sitting there with a hot mug of cocoa.
Look at them.
Because the United States Senate Republicans condemned them to financial servitude.
This is why the housing market, look at all the statistics, late family formation, young people can't afford a home.
It's all because of this.
It's all inextricably linked, but this is the reason.
And they're up there, so yeah, when Fox has got the thing that's got $100,000 for the study and the catfish and the salamander, yeah, that's all terrible, it's all crap.
But that's not the point.
The point is, is that, as I said on the show months ago, this is 100% unfunded.
100%.
And they haven't included the interest charges on it.
And it's going to get worse.
And at the same time, they are allowing, because they didn't put any real money for border security, the border of Ukraine is going to get $100 billion, but not the border of the United States of America, because they want an invasion.
They want it.
And Ted Cruz, and Rand Paul, and Mike Lee, and all of them, who just got rolled over, and Kevin McCarthy, all of them.
They're just as guilty.
Kevin McCarthy got all excited a couple weeks ago and said, dude, you've known about this.
Your appropriators are in there.
You're the minority leader.
Your appropriators are in there.
You know exactly what was going to come down.
All of a sudden, you got old-time religion because your vote's on the third, and you're going to convince us.
And no offense, Steve Cortez, I know you looked him in the eye, right?
Just like George Bush looked Putin in the eye, looked him in the eye, and I saw an evangelical Christian not.
Okay?
It's time to grow up because we're getting rolled.
We're getting rolled by the elites in this country that are on the payroll.
Todd Bensley, you had a great piece today in the Daily Mail, the most influential and biggest newspaper in the world and the biggest website in the world.
It's pretty powerful because now we know that part of the scam here – the oligarchs and Zelensky and his buddies are making money.
They're skimming 10% off the top.
This is what our own Ben Harnwell says in Europe.
He's called 10-persensky.
Right?
Not Zelensky, he's 10%-ski.
They're taking the skimming right off the top.
That's why they don't want an audit.
But the cartels, so the oligarchs in Ukraine and the cartels are making more money than ever.
Talk to us about it, Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
This is a part of the border crisis that nobody ever really thinks about.
But the Mexican cartels have been raking in, they used to get somewhere in the neighborhood of 500 million a year off the smuggling.
Now they're up to 13 billion dollars a year in a very short time, and what do you think they're doing with that money?
They are plowing it into military hardware investment.
What that does is it increases the power on the ground vis-a-vis the Mexican military, and that means that they're coming after American interests at some point, probably already now, because
The way that we control the Mexican cartels, that we have these red lines if they cross it, what we do is we tell the Mexicans, go crack down on them, beat them up, throw your military at them, arrest a bunch of their leaders, and send them to us in extraditions.
But if those cartels are as powerful and more powerful even than the Mexican military, guess what?
We don't have any leverage on them, and they are going to... But hang on.
steve bannon
Listen, it's very powerful, and they're getting weapons.
They're like advanced paramilitary organizations, correct?
You would agree with that?
Okay.
But of the $13 billion, let's talk about an un... How do I say this?
Let's talk about some unpleasant facts that we have to bring up, okay?
Because remember, Zelensky came over as a lobbyist.
He's the Ukrainian lobbyist, the chief lobbyist.
They're spreading money all over Washington, D.C.
They got lobby firms.
They got top law firms.
They got PR firms.
They got all of it, okay?
In that $13 billion that they're making, one of the reasons they've gone from $500 million to $13 billion, they're spreading money around in Mexico.
Politicians, the federales, local authorities.
You get gold or lead, right?
You either take our money.
If you don't do that, we're going to kill you or take your family.
Same thing's happening in the United States.
I got involved in this thing at Breitbart years ago because somebody gave me, and I think you maybe worked at the time, this was in 2010, somebody showed me a classified document, classified at the state level, that was given to the Texas Ranger DPS that showed that the Texas federal or state authorities did not control the counties of the Rio Grande Valley.
They were controlled by the cartels.
The number one reason is bribery.
So that $13 billion, not just they taking it and putting it back into advanced weaponry to become a world-class paramilitary operation, they're also taking, they're smart, they're taking part of the proceeds and spread around to the Federales, to the Mexican Marines, to the government.
The government in Mexico City is corrupt as all get-out, right?
And by the way, in U.S.
soil too, judges, police, sheriffs, politicians, okay?
Up and down.
Up and down.
And one of the things you guys sit there and go, hey, nobody's protecting me here, so the lead is probably pretty relevant.
Maybe I take the gold.
Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
Well, this administration has shown the world that we're willing to trade prisoners.
Brittany Greiner, we trade.
We're willing to do business with bad guys all the time.
And what's to stop the Mexican paramilitary cartel, paramilitaries, The next time saying, hey, we want our brother out of your prison, or we're going to stop the oil exports, uh, 212 million barrels last year alone, or we're going to, uh, somehow cause your auto parts industry, all your auto parts that feed your industry to, you know, slow down if we don't get our prisoner back.
That's the kind of thing that I think this mass migration crisis Uh, is feeding into this prospect of damaging of us national interests when we can't get a smack down on them.
And you're right.
There is a Mount Everest sized pile of cash that these cartels never had before.
Uh, that they are just plying state government.
steve bannon
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todd bensman
They are really impressive.
I hate to say that, but I mean, they've got professional intelligence operations.
They are global.
They are in 55 different countries operating.
They are incredibly resourceful and innovative.
They hire the best and brightest out of Mexican universities for chemistry and for economics and management.
These guys really, really know what they're doing.
An incredible array of surveillance on the U.S.
side.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on.
I mean, I could go on and on.
I just want to make sure I over-talked you.
You said, I just wanted to hear from your lips, you said on a scale from 1 to 10, there are 10?
todd bensman
Absolutely.
These guys, these guys are incredible.
steve bannon
I want to make sure you understand this, that we've allowed to metastasize.
Well, we've been in Afghanistan and we've been in now Ukraine.
You're giving a hundred billion dollars to some of the worst people on earth, the Ukrainian leadership, oligarchs that have stolen from their people, from the Ukrainian people.
For centuries, and now have professionalized it.
You're giving there for a conflict on the eastern Russian-speaking border of Ukraine, okay?
And you've allowed now the growth and metastasize a paramilitary global network cartel that is the most brutal on earth, that has partnered with the Chinese Communist Party to do a second opium war and to basically funnel in the deadliest drugs in the world to kill your children and young people in this country.
And nobody does anything about it.
Just don't do anything about it.
Because you know why?
It's not a priority.
But we're gonna take off Title 42 in this administration.
And if we don't impeach, forget Mayorkas, he's a grundoon.
If you don't impeach Garland and Biden off this, we don't stand for anything as a country.
Todd Bensman, how do people get to you for all of it?
I'm gonna have you back on, talk about Title 42.
It's a merry Christmas, brother.
Walk through how we get to you, Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
Just remember that the cash that these cartels are making on the immigrants is like steroids pumping right into their veins.
Unbelievable power.
You can reach me, and the incoming house needs to remember this when they start having their hearings.
This is part of it.
This is a big part of it.
I'm on Getter, T. Bensman Getter.
You can find me on Truth Social, too.
steve bannon
You got me triggered right there, Todd, because now that we've given Nancy Pelosi, remember when you call these senators, tell them when they come around to you looking for money for re-election, but most importantly with Tom Cotton and these guys all come and Ted Cruz, I want to run for president.
Say, I remember December 2022 when you betrayed your country.
Because if we had given the House the gavel starting the afternoon of January 3rd, you'd have gone to DHS and said, hey, how about this?
How about nothing?
Zero.
You're not going to make your payroll this week.
And here's why.
Because until we see a paramilitary force as strong as the cartels on the southern border, you get no money.
That's what... Don't believe any of the happy talk.
That is the heart of this thing.
And until we do that, it ain't real.
It's all performative.
Todd Bensman, when does the book come out, brother?
todd bensman
Month after next, February.
Overrun.
How Joe Biden unleashed the greatest border crisis in US history.
The whole story about this.
steve bannon
Todd Benson, we're going to push this Daily Mail article.
Big League, thank you for taking time away today.
Okay, we're a tad backed up, but we're going to get to all of it.
We're going to march through Georgia next about the 2020 election, going then to Arizona.
Stick around next in the War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Let's go again.
Heather Mullins, Real America's Voice, one of the investigative reporters, has been all over Georgia.
Breaking news yesterday.
I just want to make sure, Heather, explain, take a couple minutes, explain exactly what's going on and is this real or not.
unidentified
Thanks for having me on, Steve.
As you know, we followed this case right up until it got dismissed on your show for a while.
This is a 2020 election lawsuit out of Georgia that basically pertains to 147,000 absentee mail-in ballots that were previously unsealed by a judge.
Now, the plaintiffs in the case brought this case forward, alleging that fraudulent votes diluted their own, as well as that Fulton County broke the Georgia Open Records Act.
Well, basically this judge, after the plaintiffs did an analysis of the ballot images that were made available, they found a number of red flags, including like handwritten ballots that had been scanned in multiple times, creating multiple images of the exact same ballot.
And you could tell because of the handwriting.
Well, this actually corroborates some of the footage Rudy Giuliani put out at State Farm Arena that showed people scanning the same stacks of ballots over and over.
So after this was discovered, the judge, Judge Brian Amaro, had actually ordered that the ballots be unsealed and that higher resolution scans of these ballots take place.
This was all set to move forward until Fulton County ended up hiring one of Georgia's top criminal defense attorneys, Don Samuel.
This guy is known to represent dirtbags, for lack of a better word, and so now taxpayers are funding him to represent So he quickly moved to have this case dismissed, basically citing that the plaintiffs didn't have standing, that there was no direct injury to them.
And a case that was cited in their defense, right, was Confederate Veterans v. Henry County Board of Commissioners.
And this basically was a case that was also found not to have any standing, which is why Judge Amaro ended up siding with Don Samuel and throwing it out.
Well, that case ended up going before the Georgia Supreme Court, who actually reversed The decision and said that case did actually have standing and here's a direct quote.
It says only plaintiffs with a concise cognizable injury can bring a suit in Georgia court.
Unlike federal law, however, the injury need not always be individualized.
Sometimes it can be a general generalized grievance.
shared by community members, especially other residents, taxpayers, voters, or citizens.
So this is huge. And this is why the Georgia Supreme Court vacated the previous decision to throw out the Georgia election lawsuit. So this is now going back to the appeals court, and it will likely go back to the trial court, where it once stood that the next step in the case was to take more higher resolution scans of the ballots to confirm whether or not there was fraud. So that's where we need to stay out in court.
steve bannon
Hang on one second. Let me bring in Garland Favoritos.
So Garland, what are we to focus on now?
Is this going to be real?
Is this going to really open up?
Because remember, people in Arizona right now with Kerry Lakin, people are going to go, Real America's Voice I think has got it up on Rumble.
With Burquam, we've got it up on Getter.
If you want to see the Kerry Lake trial, go to Getter right now on my account, on my account on Getter, and we've got Grace Chung and Captain Bannon that are keeping it rolling over there.
And so, and we're going to get to, we got Floyd Brown from Western Journal, we got the Michael Patrick Leahy are going to join us here momentarily.
Garland is, and because I said, hey, it's 10,000 votes in Arizona, And yesterday brought up all the issue, a lot of, some of the issues from 2020.
And in Georgia, it's about the same.
I think it's 11,000 votes in Georgia.
These are on the razor's edge and the election was clearly stolen.
So Garland Favarito, is this, is this real?
Is this going to end up in that we're actually going to get hands on the ballots and be able to show the American people that they stole Georgia, sir?
unidentified
Yeah, Steve, first of all, thank you for having me back.
It's been a great.
Great to be back with you.
Yeah, it absolutely is real, Steve.
And it's not just that they just stole the election.
They stole our standing.
I've been saying ever since this case was dismissed that we actually did have standing.
And even our good friends like John Fredericks and others didn't really believe that it was correct.
But I've got to give a tip of the hat to our attorney, Todd Harding, and he made this argument.
And the argument is that we do have standing.
There are different arguments that could have been made.
There are arguments that we, you know, maybe we don't even need to have standing.
But that argument carried the day.
This is a real decision.
We knew that it was coming.
Todd has been telling us to watch the Sons of Confederate Veterans case for over a year.
And just about a month ago, The Georgia Supreme Court ruled that, in fact, that individuals do have standing.
This was a case of Confederate memorials that the Henry County and Newton County were trying to take down illegally because all monuments and memorials are protected in the state of Georgia, whether you like them or not.
And once the court ruled on that case, they said that citizens, residents, and taxpayers have always had standing in Georgia, which is exactly what I've been saying for over a year.
It was an egregious decision originally that violated all of the United States Supreme Court presidents and the presidents in the state of Georgia.
steve bannon
So practically, we've got about a minute.
So practically, what does this mean going forward, Garland?
What does this mean about getting your hands in the ballots and show that they stole it?
The standing thing, that's huge.
unidentified
Practically, it means that we will be able to, the first step is going to have to go back to the Georgia Court of Appeals.
The Georgia Court of Appeals will then tell the court that they will have to abide by the Supreme Court decision and then it will go back to Judge Amaro and Judge Amaro will be forced to open up discovery on the case.
This is the only way you could have gotten rid of discovery in the case.
But now he will be forced to open it to discovery.
And once we open discovery, the first thing we're going to do is go after the ballots.
So we'll get to see those ballots.
I think we're going to get to do what we actually wanted to do all along.
steve bannon
Garland, can you give your can you give your social media?
How do people track you down your website?
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
It's VoterGA.org.
We are all over most of the social media platforms and we are 501c3 tax deductible, and I'm a volunteer.
I don't take a salary.
We're going to keep this right up until Christmas.
steve bannon
Thank you so much, Garland Favarito.
Merry Christmas, sir.
Heather Mullins is going to stick.
We've got Floyd Brown, Michael Patrick Leahy.
Richard Barris is actually up.
Richard Barris is up.
He's going to go to our getter feed.
Here's Richard Barris' testimony.
A lot going on today in the War Room.
Juggling a few balls.
Stick around.
90-second break.
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