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Dec. 21, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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steve bannon
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ben harnwell
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oscar blue ramirez
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Baxter.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to go in this segment from the border of our own beloved country, which is being invaded, to Rome and talk about the Ukraine's border.
I want to finish up with Steve Korteska.
Steve, look, it's the war room.
You know, a lot of the posse members who revere you and particularly have seen your criticism of the cartel are a little bit shocked about this.
And by the way, it's a very tightly argued piece in Newsweek.
Let me give you an example.
If I had to pick Of something that you've worked so hard for in getting fresh blood and real fighters and people that won't back down into Congress so we don't have this mess we have up now.
It's all this Kabuki theater.
It's all performative.
I would pick the Navy SEAL.
Eli Crane out in Arizona, and I would pick Anna Paulina Luna, an Air Force veteran in Florida, who are two freshman congressmen, not even part of Congress yet, and who are pretty adamant no votes on Kevin McCarthy, in fact, signed this letter that went out that said if Kevin was to do it, get it, that he'd have to agree to all this, particularly vacate the chair, and I think vacate the chair with one vote.
So in the grand scheme of things, Everything you've really fought for is personified or manifested in these young fire breathers that are not going to back down, which is, you know, knowing most of the guys up there, what squibs they are, right?
steve cortes
Right.
steve bannon
How is it that you're on the other side of the trade, as we say in Wall Street, for Eli Crane and Anna Paulina Luna?
steve cortes
Well, I'm on the other side of the trade in this particular instance.
I'm not on the other side of the trade in terms of the agenda, right?
We absolutely have the same agenda items.
We're having a family disagreement over how to get there.
For example, again, regarding the border, to me, issue number one right now, there's created crises, several created crises because of the Biden administration, but the most important by far is the border of this country.
If we do not get control of our border, and I mean really, really quickly, we will not have a country any longer.
I believe the best way, the key leverage point that we have to get control of the border is by electing a speaker who insists and promises that he will indeed use every possible power politics angle, including defunding Joe Biden, to do so.
Kevin McCarthy has pledged publicly that he will do that.
He pledged privately to me that he will do that.
I take him at his word.
I believe him.
I'm sure there's a lot of folks out there who say, you're being fooled, Cortez.
He doesn't mean it.
And I understand that skepticism because believe me, I was on the other side of the Kevin McCarthy equation for years, and very vocally so.
But I also believe, you know, again, achieving our agenda and effectiveness is what is most important right now, not necessarily a purity test for the near term.
We also have to remember, by the way, as wonderful as those new members are who you mentioned, and I think they're going to be Absolutely great in the U.S.
House of Representatives.
We also have to remember, there are a lot of squish, moderate Republicans, and so it is very hard to get somebody to the far right of the caucus, which would be my preference, of course.
I'd like to see Matt Gaetz or MTG as Speaker of the House, but it would be impossible to get somebody to the far right to win over that moderate support.
So, in my view, given what Kevin has done, again, given that he won the election, given that he is clearly moving to the right on policy and given the urgency of the situation especially at the border and the fact that I don't think we can have a long drawn-out food fight in front of the American people.
steve bannon
Having fought this for years and understanding how they'd always do the bait-and-switch up there, do you your core thing do you believe that they will either fight and get this omnibus stopped so we can do it right on January 3rd or immediately in the new appropriations process basically say we're gonna zero DHS until we not build border security and all this crap they talk about but I mean literally shut down the border and begin the process of
hey how we're gonna get these guys out of here The illegal aliens that are here.
You think that he's got, he's looked you in the eye and he's prepared to have Biden shut the government down.
Steve, I do.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Otherwise, I would not have written this article.
I wouldn't be making these statements.
I believe that.
wing churches and the left wing evangelical community, that part of it now are going to say you're terrible and you're hurting people and this is unfair and you're un-Christian.
You think he's prepared to do that?
steve cortes
Steve, I do.
Yes.
Otherwise I would not have written this article.
I wouldn't be making these statements.
I believe that.
I pray to God I'm not wrong.
But I believe that and I'm confident I'm right.
steve bannon
We love Cortez.
It's as much Cortez's show as anybody's, with the major trivia, almost my wingman.
I just want to make sure, I want to tell the staff in Denver, she did such an incredible job.
Parker, Sig, and the entire team, please cut this.
This is one I just want to remember, right?
We've had MTG, we've had two fire breathers come out.
It's okay, fine.
You made your case.
Steve, how do people follow you?
Because I think a bunch of the War Room Posse is going to want to make contact, right?
So how do they follow you on social media?
And how can they direct message you on Getter?
steve cortes
Yeah, no, listen, so I'm on Getter, I'm at Steve, and again, listen, I understand that I have frustrated allies with this stance.
I hope to persuade them, I hope to win them over, and we'll see where, you know, we'll see where things play out in the new year.
But follow me at Steve on Getter, and I'm at CortesSteve, Cortes with an S, on the Twitter.
steve bannon
Thank you, Steve Cortes, thank you very much.
By the way, we had Gates on for a couple times at AmFest, so we're going to get more, now that we're back in the saddle, we're going to get more of the Pro and opposite, this is huge and also with everything dealing with right now the omnibus.
By the way, the numbers 202-224-3121 is the Senate.
And trust me, your calls are having an impact.
Everybody on Capitol Hill is talking about it.
They're all feeling the heat.
You've got to be specific with these senators.
Of how you're opposed to it, and that you support that no more of their legislation will ever come forth.
So they're betraying their state.
They're taking themselves out as a senator of the state.
Also 202-225-3121 is the house.
Okay, we've got live coverage of Maricopa as soon as it's ready from the courthouse.
We're going to pick that up.
I want to go to, I got Ben Harnwell, I'm going to get to him in a moment because I got a cold open, I want to play for Ben.
Let's go to the border.
I have Oscar Blue Ramirez, and this is a, just so people understand, I mean, this is an invasion of your border, and now they're playing more games than ever, you know, now they're going to come up, oh, Title 42, you got to put forward a program, you know, John Roberts is finally stepping in here.
Just for a couple of days.
And remember, the Biden administration, don't let them lie to you, this is all part of their plan.
This is why I keep saying that even Hunter Biden's laptop and what we know from the FBI will be Article 2 of Biden's impeachment.
This will be Article 1.
They knowingly have not just allowed, but planned for an exacerbated invasion of our southern border.
Let's go to Oscar Blue Ramirez.
Is it Oscar?
We have Oscar at the border?
Let's go to Oscar Blue Ramirez down at the border.
Sir.
oscar blue ramirez
Good morning, Mr. Bannon.
Yes, the problem has been exacerbated, and it is not only the situation that is happening in El Paso.
It is, as we have documented, it's out of the border in Tapachula.
The Institute of National Immigration of Mexico has already given out 7,000 multiple migration forms.
For 7,000 migrants that they are going to be transiting freely into the country of Mexico to the north borders.
Title 42 is not going to be an effective stoppage for the migrants.
They already know that the Coyote and the trafficker, it is a resource for them to get to point A to point Z. And they have been arriving not only in the parts of El Paso, but also I was yesterday at Yuma.
Where we saw multiple times traffickers being chased out by Border Patrol agents and also three days ago, we documented it at a cliff.
In Tijuana, where we saw a good chunk of migrants right now trying to cross, you know, irregularly, and they crossed irregularly the first layer of the wall, you know, and they were waiting for hours for the Border Patrol agents to attend them and to take them in.
This was hours before the statement of Title 42 that it was going to be canceled.
You have this enormous operation, sir, that it has been just It exacerbated and they have been incentivized by the Biden administration and it is the cartels and it is the collateral effect It's too much. It is on it's it's just unprecedented. It is really difficult to stop it at this point This is what by the way for our podcast and radio audience.
steve bannon
This is one of the reasons you've got to go and get our email Go to Worm.org, sign up for the email.
You've got to get the footage.
You've got to get the footage of the show.
If we can keep playing the b-roll.
The footage is unbelievable.
I know the audience wants to see my lovely visage, but just the sound of my soothing voice.
The footage is incredible.
It's absolutely amazing.
Stunning.
Gotta remember, in the omnibus bill, and this continues on, they continue to fund all these NGOs.
This was the power of what Mike Allen, the Heritage guy, showed you.
There were 35 NGOs.
unidentified
35!
steve bannon
And he said they could have done more.
They just did 35 with the cell phone data, and you see how it explodes from the Rio Grande Valley and El Paso and goes all the way up throughout the entire nation.
This is all funded by you.
The destruction of your country.
And remember, this is not, there's no, these are all economic migrants.
That's exactly what our asylum system is set up to stop.
You can't have economic migrants.
If you took economic migrants in, I got it.
They're all rational human beings.
They're going to sit there and go, hey, maybe I wanted to live in the United States.
Because as bad as it is there, it's a thousand times better than here.
So you got, what now, 8 billion people in the world?
You know, let's say 2 billion want to come, and they're going to come.
Why wouldn't they?
They're the rational actors in this drama.
Why wouldn't they?
They're going to come, no matter the hardships, no matter what they got to pay the cartels, no matter the dangers.
And that doesn't even talk about the trafficking of the women and the children, and the children trafficking, the sex trafficking is out of control.
That's, we built the wall, the border patrol told us, up that mountain, you gotta build, nobody, Army Corps of Engineers won't do it, none of the administrations will do it, the Trump administration is all hung up by Nancy Pelosi, no money for the wall, build it, wrap that wall, and you go up there, it's where the cartels will bring across the women and children.
And what you see there would shock you, would leave an indelible link or image into your mind you can't erase.
But look at that footage right there.
That's all coming to your country.
And every town's a border town.
The mayor of New York right now is in full meltdown.
He needs a billion dollars cash infusion immediately of your money.
He needs a billion dollars immediately.
And that's why this six trillion, remember it's three and a half trillion dollars on transfer payments.
Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare.
Basically, by law, they go.
Three and a half trillion there.
You got another 1.7 trillion right there.
That's 5.2 trillion dollars right there.
Five and a half.
It's going to get over six.
It's going to get over six just on the, when you add the interest.
Six trillion dollars.
Close to six trillion dollars.
And two trillion of that, two and a half trillion of that, totally unfunded.
And a massive part of that is when Oscar Blue sits there and talks about all this, that is a well-planned operation.
It's not chaos from their point of view, from the Biden regime's point of view, it's not chaos at all.
It's all going according to plan and, you know, and now they're going to sit there and go, man, this is really terrible.
And in the state of emergencies in El Paso, Are not because the invasion of the border is because the economic illegal aliens are getting cold.
And I realize it's a horrific journey.
I'm not saying it's not.
It's a horrific journey.
And when they get there, yes, it's but they are invading our country.
They don't have a right to asylum.
And they got they're playing games.
Now, if they say, oh, yeah, fear to go back, or it could be terrible.
You're automatically in.
Because they're removing Remain in Mexico, and they've worked around it.
Oscar, you do this for a living, you're one of the best in the business, you put yourself in harm's way.
Is there anything I'm saying there that's unfair or not accurate, sir?
oscar blue ramirez
No, you're 100% accurate, and you have been 100% accurate all the time, Mr. Bannon.
And the problem right here is not only what the Biden administration is doing to their border on the other side of the United States of America, right now there is a cartel war in The open gaps in every part that connects from the Mexican side to the U.S.
side.
Right here in Tijuana, there was again shootouts with the cartel fighting for territory because they know about this multi-billion business that is occurring right now with the asylum and refugee.
The cartel, it is not, you know, they're not stupid.
They know that Title 42 is going to be lifted They know that they're going to come in and business is going to continue to flow.
And Title 42 is not going to be lifted.
They do not care.
They continue to operate.
The Biden administration has opened up that window and it's really difficult now to close it.
And it has, you know, cost so many collateral damage right now that you have never seen the smuggling like it is right now.
Just as right now, we are getting information that there's more Then a hundred kids laying at a canal right here in Tijuana, waiting to enter to the United States of America.
Minors, unaccompanied minors, waiting to enter right here into the United States of America, knowing that they were going to be let in under Title 42.
This is a disastrous administration of Joe Biden.
And the one that needs to be held accountable of all of this, of the humanitarian crisis, it is Alejandro Mallorca, sir.
That is the only one.
steve bannon
Well, I think Garland and Biden too, but hang over a second.
Oscar, hang over a second.
Those 100 kids, we know this from the Project Veritas federal whistleblower.
They're all going to be sex trafficked.
There's nobody there on the other side for them.
They're going to be put up with these people who volunteer, but they have no relationship to them, and they'll traffic them.
unidentified
100%.
steve bannon
Short break.
Back to the border in Rome in a moment.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCD!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Back.
Okay, uh, welcome back.
steve bannon
Make sure you go to mypillar.com, promo code War Room, support Mike Lindell, the great fight for voter integrity, or stop stealing the elections, to be blunt.
Right now in Maricopa County, we're going to try to go there as soon as something to report on live.
Um, and I've got Ben.
Here's what I want to finish with Oscar Oscar real quickly.
Give your social media because I want people to follow you nonstop and we'll have you back on this afternoon or tomorrow.
We're following this border situation relentlessly, right?
Because this is going to lead to the impeachment of Joe Biden in the second term with the titanium steel.
By the way, I think right now I can safely say that the War Room online, we have like seven or eight chat rooms going all the way from the Midnight Rider and Carrie Bonet and the great team there to all the different Facebook groups and people at Real America's Voice online there and our getter, all of it.
I don't think Cortez and MTG have convinced you yet, let me say that.
Okay, and listen, I think all this stuff right now they're doing the omnibus is all performative, to be blunt.
They should have started a long time ago.
If they want to do it, they ought to get a lot nastier about what they're prepared to do and what they're prepared to do to these senators and shutting down everything.
And they ought to let people in their states know that, too.
Oscar, how do people get to you?
oscar blue ramirez
Thank you so much, sir, for the invitation.
Oscar Blue Ramirez at Getter Oscar Blue.
At Twitter, Oscar Blue Ramirez.
Also at YouTube, OscarBlueRamirez.com.
unidentified
And, of course, sir, Real America's Voice News.
steve bannon
Thank you very much.
Okay, I'm a guy, Benzman, but I want to compare and contrast.
I got to do because I want people to put in your mind the resources we're putting in to other borders to protect them, or particularly the Ukrainian border.
And Zelensky's coming here today.
Let's play the cold open for Harnwell.
I want to do Harnwell, and then I want to bring Todd Benzman into this conversation because Benzman is going to give you even more bad news.
Let's go.
mitch mcconnell
Making sure the Defense Department can deal with the major threats coming from Russia and China.
Providing assistance for the Ukrainians to defeat the Russians.
That's the number one priority for the United States right now.
According to most Republicans, that's sort of how we see the challenges confronting the country at the moment.
steve bannon
OK, if you read the book Chaos Under Heaven by the great reporter of The Washington Post about the first couple of years of the Trump administration, I was listed as the head of the Super Hawks.
Something had never appeared in American politics, and that our group calls into question the very legitimacy of the Chinese Communist Party as the rulers of the Chinese people of Lao Bajing.
And my efforts in everything in the Trump campaign in the White House was to take down the CCP.
And you know what I never talked about in taking down the CCP was kinetic warfare.
As a young naval officer, I'd been in patrol in the South China Sea.
I'd been in Taiwan.
We'd pulled into Taiwan many times and into Japan.
My first tour, first deployment was basically all the East China Sea, South China Sea, the protection of those sea lanes.
And I understand what a kinetic war would mean in those places.
But unrestricted warfare, you don't need kinetic war.
We don't need... I'm the most pro-hawk person out there, but I'm not a neocon.
We don't need a 10% increase to the defense budget, and we can't afford it.
So this SOP they throw, and they think that America First and the pluribles are morons, and you watch Fox, they treat you like a moron.
We don't need a 10% increase to the defense budget.
There are many more weapons today, including social media, and the Defense Department is telling you that, the PSYOPs off of social media.
You have information warfare, you have cyber warfare, you have political warfare, and wait for it, you have the big kahuna, economic warfare.
I could break the Chinese Communist Party in 90 days and bring them to their knees.
And we had a war plan inside the White House to do that.
Never was authorized to pull the trigger on that.
It's pure economic warfare.
Just tell me when something on the trial is and we'll go to the feed, but I want to get through this.
We don't need a 10% so he's sitting there treating you like like we're a bunch of oh my god we're slobbering over please if you increase the defensive budget by 10% right if we increase it by 10% by the way the troops got to get paid I understand but the troops have got to get paid in the increase because all your wokeness makes it harder to recruit individuals in the south and the south still to 60% of your recruits.
And I don't care how many commercials you play about the the girl with two moms out in Santa Monica.
It's still from the South.
And so if you're going to be woke and that's what the National Defense Authorization.
Yeah, they gave us a sop on the on the no vaccines going forward, but they knew they had to get off that anyway, because Big Pharma is going to be sued.
The rest of it's totally woke.
You understand all your tax money.
This whole thing is rotten from standard.
You're paying all the NGOs that help and exacerbate the invasion of your country.
You got money there for Catholic charities and all the rest of them.
You got it all, it's all woke in the defense process.
Everything they're telling you, and look, Senator Paul and Senator Johnson, step up today and shut the process down.
Please don't come in with the earmarks.
I'm bored already.
You got six trillion dollars not paid for, a couple billion dollars.
Hey, give them a library, give them a bridge, who cares?
Just do it.
Right?
Don't waste my time when the country's burning down to talk about earmarks.
No, I'm bored already.
That was something in 2010 that was relevant, ain't relevant now, at $30 trillion.
Talk about the financing charges.
Why are the financing charges not in there?
You're going to add another $2 trillion, and guess what you're going to do?
In nine months, we're going to do it again.
Okay?
Why are your countries being invaded?
But Harnwell, tell me about it.
Zelensky gets it.
He's savvier.
Here's the thing, you know, all of our enemies or all of our so-called allies, they're so much smarter than the morons.
And by the way, the morons are smart and they're cunning.
They got their thing because they're getting their sinecures, they're getting their payoffs from the lobbyists.
You think Mel Blunt, not Mel, you think Blunt, Roy Blunt and Shelby and these guys, they're all going to soft, cushy, you know, university gigs and lobbyist gigs and making millions of dollars.
Big time.
This is all a payoff for those people.
Let's just say what it is.
It's a payoff.
Ben, but I gotta talk about Ukraine in particular.
This should be Europe's problem.
The reason Zelensky is over, the reason he's got the budget, the Europeans are not going to pay for it anymore.
People in Europe said, no, we can't, we're freezing.
We're not eating.
In Germany, we're buying extra turtlenecks and blankets, right?
Europe's not going to step up to the plate.
Not going to do it.
If they're wealthy or they have the money, they're not going to do it.
They're going to look at the mooks in the United States.
That's why Zelensky's coming here today.
He ain't going to London to speak to Commons, right?
He's not going to Davos to have a World Economic Forum in person.
He ain't going to Brussels.
I don't see him in Rome.
Is he stopping in Rome?
Going to make a pitch to the people of Italy?
Don't think so.
Hungary, Poland, Austria.
Is he going to Berlin?
He's gonna fly over to Berlin and take an extra coat?
Gonna make a pitch there?
Is that what you're gonna do today?
Gonna make a pitch?
No.
He's coming to the United States.
They haven't had enough thing to bring people together.
Nancy Pelosi and the Library of Congress vote all over the world.
No, gotta come together today.
You don't have the border.
Oscar Blue Ramirez and Todd Bensman with the Border Patrol, they're not invited to come up there and make a speech about, hey, we got some video.
Your nation's being invaded.
No, no, no, no, no.
Don't want that.
It's a humanitarian crisis for the migrants coming across.
The invaders.
They're cold.
And I'm not demonizing them.
They're logical.
They're rational.
They're smart.
Like Zelensky's smart and cunning.
You know, time's man of the year comes.
He's going to come today.
He's coming today and he ain't stopping in Europe because they ain't paying for it.
He's coming today because you're the MOOC.
And all these people know, I tell you what, Ron Johnson, don't give me, and I love you brother, but please don't give me the earmarks today.
Talk about, talk about standing up there and being Mr. Smith comes to Washington from Wisconsin and stand up there and say, hey, guess what?
I'm going to filibuster this thing all the way through Christmas and then I'm going to make them read the bill and they'll get into, just get me to high noon on the 3rd of January.
That's all I'm asking for.
It's the 21st.
Give me a couple of weeks.
Can he do that?
Can he give us a couple of weeks?
Can I get that?
Rand Paul instead of Pago, I'm going to put in two, I'm putting in two amendments.
Hey, put in a couple more.
Why don't you get down there and do your job?
Let's see somebody with a set of stones get in there and say it.
You got all of them.
You guys want to be president?
You want to do a breakout and be able to poll more than fog in a mirror?
You want to do that?
Go into the well of the Senate today and crush this thing, and I guarantee you, you'll be at 10%.
Right?
You'll be at 10%.
Do it in your own self-interest.
You're not going to do it for the country.
Do it in your own self-interest.
Rubio, get back up there, brother.
Cotton, you want to go?
Go!
unidentified
Go!
steve bannon
Ben Harnwell, am I too hard on this?
Are the nations of Europe going to pay for this fiasco, sir?
ben harnwell
Of course they're not, Steve.
Good morning.
So today is the 21st of December.
And it's not just the darkest day of the year.
It has another symbolism.
It's the 300th day of the Russian-Ukraine war.
So, Steve, happy anniversary.
That's why Zelensky is here today.
And it's really an opportunity for the Uniparty to come out in full force, in their full grim gaslighting glory, to rub your faces on how much more money you're going to give.
Now you're already, as you've been saying on the show earlier, I think you've coughed about $100 billion so far on this, of which $22 billion is military expenditure.
The rest is sort of murky, sort of upholding the government.
It's basically FTX, via the FTX overnight laundry service.
To put $100 billion, just open up a quick bracket, to put $100 billion into perspective, the whole hoo-ha about the unconstitutional apparently debt forgiveness, student debt forgiveness, was like winning about $30 billion per year for 10 years.
So, the Supreme Court said no to that, but has nothing to say to three times that amount of money going directly to people who have not paid a single American cent, and never will, into the coffers.
steve bannon
We're going to hold you through the break.
We've got Ben Smith here, but just let me ask you a question.
Are the Europeans opening up there?
Are they all in on this thing?
Because now we're told, oh my gosh, Russians didn't lose.
Note to self, the Russians haven't lost.
They're going to weaponize winter and they're going to have a massive offensive.
And that's why Zelensky needs all these long range missiles.
Are the folks in Europe, Ben, yes or no?
Are the folks in Europe going to pay up for this?
ben harnwell
It's like the tide going out.
The high watermark of just throwing money at Ukraine has receded.
And you've got heroic efforts.
I think the undoubted leader in Europe is Viktor Orban.
I'll come back after the break and finish this point.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to bring Ben Harnwell back.
We've got Todd Benzman about the border.
We're going to bring in Nicole and Prince from the New Federal State.
Outstanding performances at AmFest.
I've got to tell you, everybody was talking about, guess what, like our theme song, Take Down the CCP.
All next in the War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Batts.
steve bannon
OK, the numbers are 202-224-3121, 202-225-3121.
Make sure you have your voice heard.
And they're saying, hey, they don't listen to me.
Well, in mass, when you get critical mass, they're nervous up there.
I can tell you that.
And we've got to figure out how to go next level on this, which we are doing behind the scenes nonstop to get this thing crushed or to expose those people who are in back of it.
And I hope President Trump, I think down in Mar-a-Lago, maybe they're going to start whipping today.
I think there'll be some other developments out of there.
But it's got to be full engagement across the board, right?
Leadership's got to step up here.
Let me get to Bensman now.
I'm going to go back to Ben Harnwell.
Because I want to compare and contrast what's happening.
Zelensky's flying in to pitch you that you need hundreds of billions of dollars to refurbish his country and to defend the eastern-speaking Russian border of his nation.
And they've told him that this massive offensive is coming and now he needs offensive weapons to go deep into the country.
Even Henry Kissinger, who was a big proponent of this at the beginning, came out the other day and said, hey, you've got to get to the negotiating tables because Russia's not going to be defeated militarily here.
And everybody's saying that it's a fantasy, as we've been saying.
Because they don't, the Russians don't care how many people they throw into this, the charnel house.
And they don't care how many, the Russian military and the KGB that run it, they don't care how many Ukrainian men, women, and children they kill.
They don't.
They care less.
Not their, not their, not, not a priority.
They'll keep killing.
And they'll keep killing with the artillery.
Remember, the artillery is the centerpiece of their, of their military, and they're going to keep lobbing it in there, World War II levels.
So it's not going to stop.
You got to get a negotiated peace here.
And now what we're doing is we're selling them, they want longer term, they want weapons to go into the interior of Russia.
And Kissinger is saying, well, I think if that happens, you may be expanding this into a real shooting war, not just between the West, but between the United States.
Because the Russians are going to sit there and say, enough with the proxy.
You're hitting us with your equipment and your technicians are teaching them how to shoot this.
Then we're at war with you.
That's exactly what we need right now.
It's a kinetic war in 6,000 miles away in the center of the close to the, you know, the close to the center, getting to the center of the Eurasian landmass.
That's always a bright thing for the United States to do.
That's brilliant.
I think even in World War Two, we said we're not going to do that, right?
We can't do that.
And so then we got an invasion on the southern border.
Todd Bensman, your piece last night, you've got another huge piece coming to Daily Mail.
It's not up yet.
As soon as it comes up, I'll get it up on Getter 2 and we'll have you back on.
But this piece last night, tell us what, because these people are smart.
People are not dumb.
If you think, if you think the people you see at the border, they're sure when the people come across, they're not dumb.
They're very technologically sophisticated.
They got phones, they're on WhatsApps.
They're totally dialed in and connected.
They're interconnected.
They're not stupid people.
And people think that they're stupid.
They're not.
And the NGOs are not stupid.
They're not.
The NGOs don't really think this is your country.
They don't think you should have any claim of sovereignty to the United States of America.
They don't believe in borders.
And they're open about that.
And that's what we've taken.
We've taken the asylum laws, which are built for a reason, and they just thrown them away.
In your face, this is the illegality that Garland, it's not Mallorca's that grundoon, it's Garland and Biden, all the way up to the head of the snake, as I like to call it.
So, Benjamin, your piece last night, what's being broadcast down in Central America and Latin America, sir?
todd bensman
Well, for starters, the U.S.
media is not down there covering this story.
So it's a big, dark hole of information.
And I found that the best way to find out what's really going on, who's coming to the border and in what numbers is to study Latin American press, Spanish language media.
They're all down there covering the heck out of this thing.
And I studied all of their coverage for the last couple of days, and that's what my piece is about.
And here, let me hit a few of the highlights for you.
For one, there are probably about 75,000 known
Illegal immigrants intending to cross all along the Mexican border on their side, and probably another 100,000 coming through the southern part of Mexico, and then beyond that, many, many, many tens of thousands coming through the Darien Gap, the most in the history of anybody ever keeping track.
Uh, the country of Nicaragua, for example, is, is, uh, ginning up a population transfer.
There are tens of thousands of Nicaraguans in three day long lines down there in Managua trying to get passports for the first time, uh, so that they can exit the country and enter some, some other nearby countries to the north.
Uh, there are just thousands and thousands of Nicaraguans ginning up for this.
The Venezuelans who had been pushed back under Title 42 a couple months ago are all coming now.
Thousands and thousands are on the way that had been pushed back.
The Hondurans that had been pushed back, the Guatemalans, 80,000, 90,000 respectively.
Intelligence community reports that have leaked out talk about how all of those people can be presumed to want to turn around.
And are turning around and heading back to the border that expelled them because it's about to open up.
In Honduras, they're even talking about these tribes, these indigenous tribes all along in six provinces.
They're emptying out for the first time ever in the history of Honduras to try to get into the U.S.
because they see the gates are open.
Another couple of things I'll mention.
Uh, you know, this is about asylum.
We talk about this all the time.
They're going to get access to guaranteed entry under asylum.
That's what this is all about.
And all of the interviews from one end, from the Southern cone, all the way to Mexico that you see local press with migrants have them saying, I am coming to the border to the U S border because I am poor.
I want to work.
Uh, we all get that, but.
That is not a basis for asylum.
All of them are going to claim asylum and get in forever, de facto forever.
But the interviews with every one of them, just masses of people that are being interviewed are like, I'm poor, I'm broke.
I want to go to the US so I can earn some cash.
So that is a criminal act.
You can't lie about government persecution.
So there's going to be, without that being prosecutable in the United States, it won't be though.
We don't prosecute that here, but it is a crime.
And the vast majority of them are being called asylum seekers.
steve bannon
They're not.
todd bensman
They're not.
unidentified
It's not.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to make sure, and you saw this the other day in Axios, they got the exclusive, Todd, you saw this.
The Biden administration Their pitch on on inflation is to take your wages down.
In particular, the African American community and the Hispanic American community should get savvy here about what the what the here's the con.
Here's the game.
They announced it in Axios the other day.
They're going to make the pitch in the first quarter of 2023.
For amnesty program because they're going to say we need more.
We need more workers because that's driving inflation.
What's driving inflation is the lowest scale of unskilled workers.
We don't have enough and that's that's the that's the single biggest problem.
Not they're spending not the orgy of spending the 11 trillion dollars.
They spend not not that.
No, it's not that has nothing to do with that.
Nope, nope, nope, not how they misread inflation, not what they've been doing, the easy money on capital markets on Wall Street.
That has nothing to do with this, so don't look over here to the problem.
Here, what's happening, and this is what they're using, and they're using these people.
These people are poor and they are broke, okay?
Because of economic conditions in Central America and Latin America that we've led fester.
Okay, one thing I recommend, first of all, we should have a five-nation summit right there in McAllen, Texas, and bring up the frontline nations.
And let's get a plan.
Let's get a plan.
Because the solution ain't in the United States.
It can't be.
Or we're not going to have a country.
Okay, we're not going to have a country.
And that's what I argued from day one.
So they're being used.
And you saw it, Todd, they broke it in Axios.
They're big, the Biden administration for next year, so you're hearing it first on Worm.
Right?
But they leaked it to Axios to kind of put it in the ether.
His big solution next year, the solution for inflation, I've got it.
I finally thought of it.
It's to bring down wages.
I'm going to bring down wages.
And here's the wages I'm going to bring down.
Not of the tech oligarchs, not the people in Silicon Valley, right?
Not the Wall Street crowd, not the lobbyists.
No, I got a solution.
Here's my solution.
It's going to be the lowest unskilled wage group and here's our solution.
We're going to just let the world come in here and they're going to get jobs and they're going to force down the wages of the Hispanic and the African-Americans in the lower skilled jobs.
Going to force their wages down and put a cap on them because we're going to flood the zone now.
And by the way, on top of it, we'll give them all amnesty.
That's the con, isn't it?
Is that the program in a nutshell, Mr. Todd Bensman?
todd bensman
Well, it's great political spin for them.
I mean, that's just coming up with, well, you know, this whole border thing is going to be good for all Americans because it's going to reduce your inflation.
steve bannon
Yeah.
No, no, no.
They're telling you the invasion of your country.
It's good news.
The good news, the invasion of your country.
All those people sitting down there shivering that say, I'm poor, I'm broke, I want to make some money, I'm an economic... There is no asylum program for economic migrants.
It's just not.
Because people understood then, hey, of 8 billion person world, at least 4 billion are going to want to camp out here, right?
So that's not a solution.
But they're going to tell they're selling you now that that actually is the solution.
And here's just to make sure we permanently lock it in.
Let's give them amnesty on top of it, which will only draw another billion here to come.
Todd, that's that's that's when I say this is thought through, baby, it's already thought through to the end game in 2023.
And it's the solution for the inflation.
It is so in your face, Todd Benjamin.
todd bensman
Well, you know, listen, they're coming out now.
I mean, there's all this spin coming out.
They're blaming people like me and people like you who are decrying open borders as advertising to the migrants in Latin America that the borders are open.
So it's actually, it's your fault.
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
todd bensman
talking about these amnesties in Congress, people who actually have the power to do an amnesty or might be able to push for the power, nothing triggers forward movement more than talk of amnesty.
Man, they rush, they can't get in any faster.
So it's exactly the opposite.
steve bannon
By the way, the show at Hypocrites, they are, hey, they ain't watching The War Room.
And they're not, listen, they're not going to the CIS website and getting Todd Bensman, and they're not buying Todd Bensman's book, Overrun.
Okay, let's be blunt.
South American media is saying Biden, and they got Amnesty, it's a massive magnet, and they know the border's open.
These people aren't idiots.
They know more about it, and where to go, and how to avoid a cartel, or how to pay here.
They know it.
They got it.
todd bensman
Yeah, I mean, just to bring it kind of back full circle, the piece that I wrote that's in today's CIS.org about the Latin American media is, you know, they're interviewing all these immigrants and they're saying, why are you coming?
And the answer is universally, Title 42.
We're coming for Title 42.
And back in the States, in Congress and the White House and everybody, they're saying, This is Steve Bannon and people saying open borders and disinformation from smugglers and all this, you know, migratory patterns and terrible things happening in Latin America.
That's not what they're saying.
The immigrants are saying we're coming here because they're opening up the border.
steve bannon
How do we get your social media to follow you and find out when the Daily Mail story is, Todd?
todd bensman
Sure.
unidentified
I'm at tbenspin at debtor and toddbenspin at fruit.
steve bannon
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I want everybody to check that. You're just due process now, OK?
Todd, thank you so much. Honored to have you on here, brother. We'll get the book up.
Short break. Back to Harnwell to talk about the border that really cared about Ukraine.
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steve bannon
Okay, Charlie Carson will follow us right here on Real America's Voice.
He's going to be all over the hearing in Maricopa County.
Nothing could be more important.
We've got, right now, on my personal getter, and this is why you have to get getter totally free, you could follow the trial, and plus we're putting in commentary, and obviously the War Room Posse, that is not shy about putting their opinions out, as you should not be, because you're fighting the destruction of your country.
It's commentary, and I'll be joining that right after the show in the next segment.
Ben, I know you've got some thoughts on a lot of things.
Number one, I talked about Archbishop Vigano and the Father Pavone situation.
You're working it from the Vatican point of view.
We're going to have more on that tomorrow because time doesn't allow us to get into it today, although it's of high and vital interest.
Zelensky, what should people be looking for on the Zelensky visit today, particularly who's going to kowtow to him, sir?
ben harnwell
Everybody, Steve.
I mean, this is the point.
This is why the Uni Party has invited him over to D.C.
on the 300th anniversary of Russia's invasion into Ukraine.
This is an opportunity for all of Washington, D.C., and all the grifters and all the hangers-on that make so much money out of the existence of DC and the constant pilfering of Americans' pockets.
This is why they brought him here, because he's the Zelensky for them.
He's not really, you know, to a certain degree, Zelensky's not really coming for himself or Ukraine regardless of what he's saying.
He's coming at the behest of Washington, DC, because they need to go in for the kill now and just extract as much money out of the American taxpayers' pockets as they can.
He is just the proximate cause of this.
It's like a continuation of the obscenities that we saw under the Covid dictatorship of It's a reason that Congress can take money from Americans with the scarcest of excuses or justifications, because no one knows where this money is going.
That's the point.
I mean, what we do know, what we absolutely do know, is that this money was going over to Kiev, Zelensky was spending money to the FTX exchange, a fraction of that money, a small percentage of that money, then went over to the, what's the guy's name, the guy currently
He was taking a couple of percentage of that and then with that money he was giving it to both sides.
Steve, let me say this point.
A couple of days ago I put something out on Getter.
I picked it up from Axios.
He said that he was the second or third largest donor to the Republicans.
And this is one of the reasons why I think the Feds want to charge him because he's basically doing the same thing as Dinesh D'Souza was doing but on a million times larger scale.
People were responding to me, Steve, saying, no, no, no, you got it wrong.
He wasn't giving money to the Republicans.
He was giving money to the Democrats.
Steve, he was giving money to both sides.
steve bannon
It's like the Rothschilds in the World War.
Ben, what is your social media, because I want to pop this in the last couple of minutes of the show, because breaking news in Americopa County.
They just admitted they do not count the ballots at vote centers, which is a basic requirement of state law.
So there's some explosive stuff already.
Ben, give your social media and we'll have you back on tomorrow.
We've got to get to the Kerry Lake trial.
ben harnwell
Of course.
It's at Hanwell for the Let's go.
steve bannon
I want to pick up the live coverage.
We're going to be back here from five to seven today.
They'll still be going on.
We're going to have full analysis up on Getter.
Let's go to the trial, the stealing of the vote from Kerry Lake in Arizona.
unidentified
and let's go to it.
Okay, let's cut back to me.
steve bannon
me.
Okay, thank you.
ben harnwell
Thank you.
steve bannon
As soon as we get the audio up, I tell you, we may run out of runway here.
The Charlie Kirk show is going to fall, so I'm sure Charlie's going to pick this up, but already some pretty explosive.
And listen, this was, I know many, many, many people, the Cary Lake fans, are very disappointed by Katie Hobbs.
not taking the stand today and having defend, basically her as Secretary of State, overseeing the stealing of, no I'm just going to finish it and just roll it and we'll toss it to Charlie Kirk and he can take it.
People are very disappointed in Katie Hobbs who begged yesterday not to have to testify.
This shows you somebody they selected and put in as governor.
She is so unprepared to be governor.
She lacks command presence.
Like I say, she wets herself if ever confronted with this going on and having to articulate her ideas.
She gets nothing but softball interviews.
Over at MSNBC and CNN, she begged the judge, the RSA begged him, please, you know, I gotta get my nails done, I gotta get a hairdo, I gotta get, I'm working on a transition, I've got a hangnail, you know, I got a cold, I got sniffles, I might get COVID, I gotta pick the kids up from school, she had a thousand, you know, it's gonna cost too much money, I don't know if I could, I mean, she had a thousand excuses, and they let her off the hook, but the reason they let her off the hook
Well, strategically, they said, we only got five hours.
Now, I think that sounds like a lot of time, but we're going to really maniacally focus on really hammering these guys on the evidence.
And already, it looks like they got a blockbuster, which they've been telling people, and Bill Gates has told everybody, they count these things at the Vote Center.
It looks like, surprise, surprise, they broke the chain of custody.
Stephen Ricker and Carrie Lake's War Room just put it out.
So this will be pretty explosive.
We're going to pitch to the Charlie Kirk Show Real America's Voice.
I want to say that the Real America's Voice team and the great Parker Sigg and the entire team with the War Room production staff and Captain Bannon and Grace Chung and of course our producers who can't be named because they're still in college.
Just fantastic and all the audience that came up We're going to do now.
We're inspired to do more live events in 2023 because we see the power of just connecting with this audience.
Okay, this day's jam-packed today.
There's so much going on from our nation's capital to Maricopa County to the border.
We're going to be back from 5 to 7 with two hours of intensity as you come to expect and we believe we deliver here at the War Room.
We're going to flip the great Charlie Kirk.
I think they're going to be doing more live coverage.
We're up on Getter.
I'll be jumping into that too to make comments right now on the Kerry Lake trial.
We'll see you at Getter.
Stick around for Charlie Kirk.
You're going to have to maybe process today a lot of stuff, but the Warren posse is used to it.
You've been trained.
Now let's hit it.
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