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Dec. 17, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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natalie winters
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on this, people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish, in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bach.
steve bannon
Okay, we've got breaking news from our own correspondents and contributors.
Dave Walsh is actually in the United Kingdom and there's a massive protest out there about energy policy.
We're going to get Dave Walsh, he's going to contact us here in a moment, he'll get Dave Walsh up.
Natalie Winters already at AmFest.
She's got an amazing piece on guess what?
Information, disinformation, this FBI.
You know, it's acting like the KGB and I tell you somebody knows all about that is Rebecca Koffler.
Rebecca, we'll have you on next week about the CIA report you've got in the New York Post.
We'll blow it out.
But your assessment here, because I saw a piece in NBC last night that says that they're putting together a massive militia In Ukraine.
And by the way, the Ukrainian people are getting absolutely hammered.
You gave the number 140,000.
I think the Defense Department says there's 40,000 civilians that are dead, uh, 10 months into this war.
There's a hundred thousand that the president of the EU said there were a hundred thousand military personnel in Ukraine.
This is her words that have been killed, uh, in action.
I know they try to walk a little bit of that back, but they had an article, uh, and I gotta be quick about this, but they had an article where they're going to put together a massive militia force.
With Kiv and the grid being bombed and shelled every night, and Russia, which is so good on artillery, hammering them every night.
They're going to put together a, and Milley's saying there's no military path to a victory here, after being told that there was by MSNBC and CNN.
Just remember that.
And the Biden administration told this for months and months and months, and the Ukrainian people believing that.
They're putting together a huge militia.
A militia now.
Militia in Ukraine right now is a civilian with a gun.
Okay?
A militia to retake Crimea.
How ludicrous is that?
How many Ukrainians will die needlessly if we continue to give the false hope that a militia is going to somehow go take Crimea back, ma'am?
rebekah koffler
It is absurd.
I mean, Crimea is one of the most fortified targets You know, for Ukrainians, Putin is never going to give up Crimea.
He will go all the way to nuclear, triggering the Russian escalate to de-escalate doctrine that envisions a detonation of a low-yield tactical nuclear warhead in Ukraine in order to prevent that from happening.
But what is disturbing is that all these lies that we are being told, not only Zelensky is deploying militia, he's deploying his security services to raid churches and monasteries and arrest Priests, Orthodox Priests, interrogating them.
These are Soviet KGB tactics.
You know, Zelensky is basically the type of dictator that Putin is.
Unfortunately, our government has been feeding this false narrative to us.
That Ukraine is a democracy, it is a highly corrupt country, 123rd on the scale, just a little bit less corrupt than Russia.
And so the American people just need to know the truth and it's only war room and outlets like that that deliver this truth and not the disinformation.
that the rest of US, especially liberal media, are telling the American people.
We need to really stop listening to those guys because they're using FBI to shape the narrative of Twitter, imagine that.
steve bannon
Okay, hang on for one second.
We're gonna get to Natalie in a second there, but I got Dave Walsh from the United Kingdom by phone.
Dave, can you give us up the data of what's going on over there, sir?
unidentified
Hi, Steve, I can hear you.
steve bannon
Yes, tell us what's happening.
unidentified
Thank you.
So we've got thousands of demonstrators in the streets today in London demonstrating for Iranian freedom.
This has been going on for about half an hour in front of Parliament and it's all about a despotic regime, dictatorial A religious-based regime who, in the last year, have been a key trading ally of the United States for oil.
As you know, and the audience knows, the Biden administration has sought out the leadership of the government of Iran as a validated trading partner for oil and gas for our country, despite our having an abundance of fuels.
It's rather remarkable that we're supporting the very government, our own leadership that ...is the cause of this kind of rioting and demonstrating in the UK at this time.
I happened to stumble into MSNBC in front of Buckingham Palace just a few days ago, covering important issues such as the relationship of Harry and Meghan.
Period.
Not the energy crisis in England, not the fact that 14 million Brits are living in below the poverty level now, but covering Meghan and Harry.
Our media here in the UK.
steve bannon
A disgrace.
Dave Walsh, thank you very much.
We look forward.
I'm going to try and get you back on the Monday show.
We appreciate the fact that you're on vacation there and you've been on holiday and you've jumped in to help us out here.
Thank you very much, sir.
Fantastic.
So, Rebecca, before I let you go, you've got protests in the streets.
You've got the Iranians that are fighting for freedom, particularly this whole movement with women there.
Russia is now doing a deal with, remember, the CCP did a 40-year output deal on oil.
You got Putin doing a strategic military deal with the mullahs.
Are the mullahs going anywhere anytime soon, do you think, ma'am?
rebekah koffler
Unfortunately, I don't believe that because another thing that Putin is doing is he's providing help to the Iranians to suppress the protest, and Putin is a master of it.
Remember, he has stood up his own 300,000 National Guard with the specific purpose of protecting his regime.
He's a former KGB operative.
He is a professional assassin, and his inner circle is protected by those types of assassins, and they can train the Iranians on those tactics.
Putin is an expert on it.
And so, unfortunately, the biggest threat right now is Russia sharing their nuclear know-how with Iran.
That is the top threat, not the Russian threat that's supposedly threatening Europe.
How is Russia presenting a threat to a NATO country.
They're struggling securing military victory over a much smaller opponent, Ukraine.
So this whole lie that the Washington establishment has targeted the American people with, the disinformation about Russia attacking a NATO country is absolute nonsense.
It's nonsensical.
And they are counting on our stupidity.
But the American people are not stupid.
The American people have already caught on to the fact that the Biden administration is just a bunch of crooks, you know, and liars.
And so truth is coming out.
And Matt Paisley and Barry Weiss are presenting the truth to us.
steve bannon
Rebecca, how do people get to you, to the book you've done on Putin?
How do they get to your writings?
You've got a new article up in the New York Post today.
How do they get to it?
rebekah koffler
I regularly publish on the New York Post, the Fox News.
I'm on Twitter, Getter and Truth Social now at Rebecca0132 and my website is RebeccaKofler.com.
I'm on YouTube and all over.
I'm so proud to be here on War Room Steve because you're one of very, very few outlets now in the United States delivering truth.
to the American people.
The rest of them are just like back in the U.S.S.R.
that I could experience.
It was full censorship.
And right now we are learning about what the FBI was doing with respect to Twitter.
It was targeting Americans who were trying to deliver truth to the United States.
steve bannon
Rebecca, thank you very much.
And thank you for the kind words.
Really appreciate it.
rebekah koffler
Thank you for having me, Steve.
steve bannon
Pretty good segue to our own Natalie Winters.
By the way, this is the reason the omnibus is so big.
$37 billion to keep this madness going.
$37 billion of your money that's not going to the southern border.
That's not going to economic development in this country.
Going to the dumpster fire that is Ukraine.
And just more Ukrainians are going to be killed.
And now they're talking about funding a militia.
A militia with basically civilians with guns to take Crimea.
This is the kind of madness.
This is insanity.
Mersheimer of Chicago, and Natalie Winters is a University of Chicago graduate, Mersheimer said, this is back in 2014, he said that we're leading the Ukrainian people down the primrose path to their destruction because of elites in the West.
And of course, we're not defending Russia.
The KGB is a criminal cartel just like the CCP, maybe even worse than the CCP.
Natalie Winters, talk to us about, you've got this piece on disinformation.
You're, even though you're young in years, you've become pretty, I don't want to say cynical, a little hardened because you're such an investigative reporter.
You've seen, well, you've just seen the lies and misrepresentations on the biomedical security program.
You're one of the top one, two or three investigative reporters in the world about the Chinese Communist Party and its infiltration of the West.
Talk to me about the revelations coming out now with this new story you've got up.
unidentified
Sure.
natalie winters
Well, I think it's important to contextualize it because the government-funded program that I found in terms of correcting beliefs held by misinformation is, I would say, scary enough to stand on its own, but I think it's a lot more scary Even more nefarious when you consider it, this grant, in the context of what the federal government has been doing in terms of not just censoring misinformation, but sort of taking proactive steps
To try to stop these beliefs, these so-called, you know, misinformed beliefs from really festering in the brains of Americans to begin with.
I think at this point it's safe to say that there really is a misinformation industrial complex that exists in terms of a fusion between the private and public sector in trying to suppress narratives that are unfavorable, whether it's towards the Biden regime COVID-19 vaccine makers, I would say it goes all the way to the Chinese Communist Party.
I think a lot of times when we catch these entities, whether it's, you know, the FBI, in this case, the DHS, even in this case, it's the National Science Foundation, when we catch them in the act of trying to censor misinformation, I think it's important to remember that this is just the tip of the iceberg, right?
This is what sort of flies above the radar that we're able to catch because it's a federally funded program.
But most of these programs, you know, if Twitter hadn't released those communications, I think a lot of us have the gut feeling that there's this liaising that exists between the public and private sector.
But what I've found, again, is just, you know, 0.0001%.
So this grant in particular is titled, and this is not a conspiracy, this is literally the title of it, How false beliefs form and how to correct them.
I mean, this is a over half a million dollar grant from the National Science Foundation to researchers at Vanderbilt University, where they're working in consult with fact checkers, though the grant doesn't explicitly name who they're working with.
But they're not just trying to figure out how to combat the spread of misinformation, right?
That's a euphemism that I think we hear All too often, but what I think is particularly nefarious about this program, and I've read the corresponding studies that have been published from this grant, they are going down all the way to the level of basically, I mean, testing syntax and phrasing and diction and what words work better in terms of crafting fact checks to make Americans believe what fact checkers say, how to make it the most Salient.
All the way down they talk about cognitive psychology.
You can go to Word to read the story and read the abstracts from the papers to see really the, I would say, very alarming level of depth.
that these people are going, not just to stop the spread of disinformation, but how to actively then combat people who hold those viewpoints.
And as anyone who watches the show knows, the term disinformation really has no bearing, has no anchor.
It's sort of a floating nebulous term.
And that very fact is how it's been so exploited by agencies, whether it's FBI, DOJ, DHS, or in this case, even the National Science Foundation.
steve bannon
You know, we throw around these terms Orwellian or Kafkaesque or whatever, but this is – you got into the engine room and see how they fund and they interact with the university complex, which is just an adjunct to them.
Of a shutting down wrong thing, right?
This is the wrong thing and these people need to be reprogrammed.
This is so dangerous and now we know it's dangerous because we've seen the revelations of Matt Taibbi and Weiss over with Elon Musk at Twitter about the direct involvement of the FBI, 80 FBI agents working essentially a controlled takeover of Twitter. Darren Beatty's going to be back in a second.
Short commercial break.
Natalie's going to join us on the other side. You got to get to this blockbuster piece. We're going to put it out everywhere. Make sure everybody gets it back.
Jeff Shepard. I think we're trying to get Jeff Shepard on also to talk about the judiciary and taking presidents out. Your host, Stephen K.
Bass. Okay. For anybody who thinks that the AmFest is for just young people, that's not correct.
A bunch of us old geezers are going to be there too, but we want everybody.
Everybody had a great time at the great Reset Conference we did.
You can see the folks we got.
We want everybody in the general area to try to make it.
We're going to be doing live Monday and Tuesday.
Natalie Winters is out there already, Captain Bannon, Grace Chong, the whole crew, and Natalie is going to co-host with me on Monday and Tuesday.
Natalie, Give me a minute or two on AmFest.
What do you hope to get out of there?
This piece right here, by the way, the audience is loving.
We're going to do a lot more of this and get you a lot more involved in this.
This Twitter situation, FBI situation, DOJ, which is going to be one of the major investigative pieces.
It's all going to roll into the Fauci, the biomedical security industry that you've been so good of deconstructing.
Give us your sense of AmFest and your role, ma'am.
unidentified
Sure.
natalie winters
Well, I'm someone who's usually very skeptical of conferences because I think they're a lot of times a waste of money, a waste of effort when we should just be, you know, focusing on the grassroots, getting out the vote.
But I think right now with what we've seen, and honestly, I think it dovetails perfectly with this story.
That I was just talking about.
There's such a concerted effort from this government, from the Biden regime to make people who hold the beliefs that you and I do feel isolated and feel alone and make us feel crazy.
So I think it's really, I would say cathartic in some ways.
But really powerful to have such a large gathering of like-minded people to actually organize and figure out, you know, how we move forward.
Because I think a lot of times, you know, they keep us so apart.
I think that's one of the, I would say, cons of social media.
Some people might call it a pro, but I think it's really nice to just be in the same room with a lot of like-minded people to really strategize how to go forward.
unidentified
I was just looking at the schedule, looking at some of the speakers here.
natalie winters
While I'm most excited to see you speak, Steve, There are some other people who are just really amazing, so I think it's nice to have so many like-minded people in the same room pushing back against all these FBI-contrived narratives on what constitutes misinformation and disinformation.
steve bannon
Yeah, I agree.
I agree.
This is going to be the battle, putting together the battle plan for 2023 because we've got to fire with the football.
One, the appropriations, right, is the anvil.
The investigations are the hammer.
So the revelations every day are just absolutely stunning.
They boggle.
The mind, we've been talking about a lot.
Now you see why people were banned.
But the sophistication of the apparatus, everywhere from giving grants to Vanderbilt and other schools to start, how do we identify wrong think?
But more importantly, how do we convince the proletariats, the deplorables, how do we convince the proles that they're part of wrong think and they got to have right think?
So it's beyond scary.
And I'm really proud of the people that we work with.
Natalie, what's your social media?
How can people follow you while you're at AmFest, ma'am?
natalie winters
I'm at Natalie G Winters on all platforms.
steve bannon
You know, Natalie, I've been getting blown up.
I've been getting, you know, can you connect with Natalie?
We want to interview Natalie.
No, no offense.
Am I like your agent?
I mean, I told somebody, I said, I'm not Natalie's agent.
Here's the number.
You call her, you contact her.
natalie winters
I give out my phone number.
steve bannon
I'm not running her calendar.
natalie winters
I don't know how well that would end.
steve bannon
No, I'm not running her calendar.
Okay.
Look forward to seeing you out there.
Thanks.
Thanks for getting out there early.
Natalie Winters.
Okay, so, you know, MSNBC and CNN, all night, last night, all afternoon yesterday since CNN broke the story, all day today, all day tomorrow on the Sunday shows, I'm going to give you a heads up what's going to be there, and all Monday, and on national TV, starting at noon, they're going to do a pregame, and then one o'clock is going to be live, and then in Rachel Maddow's already announced she's coming back off the beach to do a special on Monday night, MSNBC, a whole hour special,
The J6 committee is going to bring criminal charges against or recommend they're going to go to justice.
It's just a, it's a symbolic, but they're going to refer President Trump for criminal prosecution.
There's a, and we're going to spend a lot of time on this in 2023.
And I want to reintroduce you to a, uh, to a, uh, an individual that is really dedicated his life to get to the bottom of it.
And this is part of the story.
You're going to have to understand because you're going to see it take place.
You're already seeing it take place, but it's definitely going to take place around president Trump.
Uh, the, uh, individuals, Jeff Shepard, he was in the Nixon white house.
He's dedicated his life to get to the bottom.
Of what really happened at Watergate, because the story you've been told is not that is not the real story.
The latest book, he's done three, but the latest book is the Nixon conspiracy about how they really plotted and took President Nixon out.
And I'm not making any defense of Richard Nixon was not the best guy in the world, but he was a great president and he stood for some great things.
Domestic policy, maybe not so much, but and strategically and international policy.
Among the finest, and he came into a terrible situation.
With the Vietnam War kind of dumped in his lap Jeff Shepard walk us through what's the connection conspiracy in particularly one aspect?
Nobody's ever really focused on is the federal judiciary, which is kind of held up You know sacrosanct like Caesar's wife the federal judiciary the Department of Justice and these Hill staffers These staffers on the Hill that work in conjunction to they worked in conjunction to take down a president and hey They're working in conjunction now Steve, thank you for having me on.
You're right.
I've devoted a great deal of my life to getting to the bottom of what really happened in Watergate.
back again. Jeff Shepard, the floor is yours, sir.
geoff shepard
Steve, thank you for having me on. You're right. I've devoted a great deal of my life to getting to the bottom of what really happened in Watergate.
And what's really brought that forward is in just the past 10 years, it's 50 years since Watergate, but just in the past 10 years, four caches of documents have surfaced from the internal records of the Watergate Special Prosecution Force that show, that leave a paper trail of secret meetings, secret memos, and secret coordination between the judiciary and the special
prosecutors and congressional staff.
unidentified
have.
geoff shepard
And you wouldn't believe it if it weren't there in writing, but it's right there in writing.
I can show I've uncovered documents and I've posted them on my website and they're featured in my books that show at least a dozen secret meetings between the Watergate Special Prosecutors and Chief Judge John Sirica who was running the trials, both the break-in trial and the cover-up trial.
And you don't have to have gone to law school to understand you're not supposed to have secret one-sided meetings with a judge.
And we've also uncovered proof That Archibald Cox became so worried about Judge Sirica's bizarre rulings—they're always pro-prosecution, he may as well have sat at the prosecution table—that Archie Cox called on his friend, Chief Judge David Bazelon of the D.C.
Circuit, and urged him to stack the deck on any appeals from Judge Sirica's criminal rulings in Watergate.
So what you find, if you look, Is there were 12 criminal appeals from Judge Sirica's Watergate trials.
And in all 12 of them, the DC circuit heard the case from the beginning, what's called en banc, the whole nine judges.
Now in the circuit courts, it's supposed to be three judges on a panel.
And if you think that wasn't the right decision, you can petition for a rehearing before all the judges.
But here for the first time and only time in American history, 12 Watergate cases were heard before the nine judges.
And that's because it preserved the liberal control of that court.
And you have this truly bizarre finding.
You have secret meetings with a judge and you have the suppression of evidence that would have been helpful to the defendants.
So my Second book.
The first cache came out in 2013, and these were Leon Jaworski's confidential Watergate files that he took with him when leaving office.
These were government documents.
You're not supposed to take government documents, but Leon did.
And they didn't surface until well after he passed away, and he'd given them to his alma mater, Baylor Law School down in Waco, Texas.
And you start reading them.
They became public in response to my FOIA request.
But to start reading them, and what he's done, he's prepared memos that describe his secret meetings with Judge Sirica.
And as I say, I can show you a paper trail of at least 12 of them.
And then you have this other set of memos that also surfaced around the same time, around 2013, this first set came out.
And it's a series of interviews with the original career prosecutors when John Dean came in to switch sides.
John Dean was the president's lawyer, but after the break-in, and everybody agrees nobody on the White House staff knew about the break-in in advance, but what sunk them is called the cover-up.
It's not the crime, it's the cover-up.
But John Dean was orchestrating the cover-up.
So when he went to switch sides, he said, look, there's been a conspiracy I know, because I'm a part of it.
I was running it.
But these other more senior guys, they were involved in it too.
The trouble was, that wasn't the story he told when he first went in to see the prosecutors.
He went in to talk about the break-in itself.
They weren't convinced.
The career prosecutors never agreed to give John Dean immunity.
They said he was too central to the cover-up.
But his story changed.
And when your story changes in the hands of the prosecution, that has to be shared with defense counsel.
And it wasn't.
And I've uncovered the key memo that goes right through it day by day when he's seeking immunity and describes his change in testimony.
The defense should have had that made available to them for the trial.
Now, what happened?
And that's what brings the parallel to today, Steve.
steve bannon
The career path- I tell you what, hold it, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, hang on one second, because I want to have a dramatic pause, okay?
I want to keep him hanging through the break.
Jeff Shepard, we have to understand this.
It hasn't been discussed enough.
The books are stunning.
We have to understand this, because history is repeating itself.
Right here and now in Washington, D.C.
against Donald J. Trump.
Short break.
Jeff Shepard, Darren B. from Revolver News, next in The War Room.
unidentified
Okay, um...
Bye.
steve bannon
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Jeff Shepard.
Jeff, the third book hasn't gotten the exposure, but it may be the most explosive.
It's the one that's going to be most relevant, ladies and gentlemen, as we go forward.
Remember, we're trying to give you immersive experiences so that you're ahead of the curve of what's going to happen.
After Monday, it's rolling.
They're going to indict him.
There's no doubt about that.
They're coming for him, okay?
And they're coming for him.
They just put a bill in.
41 Democrats put a bill in to restrict him from running for president.
They understand they can't beat him at the ballot box.
They didn't beat him in 2020.
He's not beatable at the ballot box.
Not beatable at the ballot box.
They have to do something else.
And they're going to use this aspect that the, the, uh, DOJ in the, um, in the federal judiciary, and this is blockbuster.
What's the relevance today?
Uh, Jeff, and I want to talk about the roadmap.
What's the, what's the relevance of this today?
Why are we talking about Nixon?
Why are we talking about the seventies?
Why are we talking about something that happened 50 years ago, sir?
geoff shepard
Well, what the, what the prosecutors did, the, uh, specially recruited, highly partisan, Watergate Special Prosecution Force accused Nixon of personally having approved a payment of money to one of the Watergate burglars.
But they did it in secret.
They did it to the grand jury, and then they had the grand jury write a report that they shared with the House Judiciary Committee, again in secret.
So those of us on Nixon's Watergate defense team didn't even know what he'd been accused of.
It was just phenomenal.
And then the other parallel, if I could, you know, Mark Twain has this great quote, history doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes.
And the rhyming today is just incredible.
Back then, we didn't use the phrase deep state, but let me tell you, it was the deep state against Richard Nixon.
He'd just been reelected by a landslide margin.
And they wanted to take that away.
And they used the Ervin committee and the Ervin committee was as much one sided As the January 6th committee is today.
So it was televised, it was carried live on all the networks, but you only got one point of view.
You didn't get the other point of view.
And what the prosecution did, the Department of Justice people, the Watergate Special Prosecution Force, they held off bringing criminal trials, where you got all your rights of due process, until after the public's mind had been poisoned by these congressional hearings.
It's startling when you realize it, Steve, but you have no due process rights in front of the Congress.
When you're called in front of a hearing, they're not under oath.
You're the only one in the room that's under oath.
They can say whatever they want about you and you got no rights.
It isn't until you're in a court of law that the fifth and sixth amendments come into play.
And that's what happened 50 years ago.
I suspect that's the same scenario.
You wonder, Why the Department of Justice has taken well over two years before bringing any charges for what happened on January 6th.
And I think it's because, I mean it certainly was in Watergate, they want the story, the narrative, to come out in a very, very one-sided way.
Now, what we learned, I mean, the roadmap, the infamous roadmap where they accused the president of, it wasn't unsealed until 2018 and that was in response to my court petition.
And then you get it and then you say, wait a second, if they said this in public, we could have refuted it.
But they didn't.
They said it in secret and they kept it secret.
It didn't even start to come out until 2013 and the actual roadmap until 2018.
And it really, it brings it, you know, it questions your faith in the rule of law.
We talk about the rule of law, particularly lawyers and all the rights you have and the constitution, all those things.
But those things were for the downtrodden and the picked upon.
They were not for the high and the mighty.
And what you've got is people in power.
Or people who are usurping prosecutorial authority, bringing charges that are very, very one-sided and designed for political purposes.
steve bannon
It just shows you too, when you look at these guys on MSNBC and all these guys, the Weisberg, they're all demons.
And they come, there's demon spawns from this crowd that was back in the 70s.
I wanted to make sure people when you get to your web, because we're going to do an hour special with you, maybe a two hour special, because I got to break this down into component pieces so people fully understand what Trump's up against.
How did they get to the website, all your information, and how they get to the book, particularly the last one, the Nixon Conspiracy?
unidentified
Sure.
geoff shepard
Where do they go?
The website is www.shepherdonwatergate.com, and you're showing the homepage when you go in, and then the three books are across the bottom.
If you scroll down just a little bit, if you have the ability to do that, the book three Which is the one on the far left is called the Nixon Conspiracy and that's got the information on what they did to Nixon.
Book two is their cheating on due process where they loaded, they met secretly with a judge and they loaded the appeals on the actual Watergate prosecutions.
And then book one, which came out in 2008, it really describes how The people most involved in the Watergate saga unfolding were all members of the Kennedy political dynasty.
They were attempting, in my view, to pave the way for Senator Edward Kennedy to run for president in 1976.
He didn't do it, but not for lack of trying by these people.
So it's an evolving situation as more and more information becomes public.
You're just amazed that there's an actual paper trail of what these folks did.
There are not a single thing.
All these documents are on my website.
They're publicly available at the National Archives, but I've got the links.
Not a single document has ever been challenged.
Documents that describe their secret agreements with Judge Sirica, documents that show the suppression of exculpatory evidence.
I mean, it is really appalling and it's power, Remember, Lord Acton said power corrupts.
Well, it certainly does.
And the people who hold the power don't want to let it go.
And they're willing to do anything to hold on to the power.
And that's what we saw in Watergate.
It's just, it's only coming to light 50 years later.
steve bannon
This is the administrative state at work and their rogue elements, the deep state, uh, Jeff Shepherd, you're a patriot and a hero.
You are 50 years on.
This is relevant.
geoff shepard
You're a good man for spending the time to get to know this.
Your commentary and your characterizations are absolutely right.
I look forward to discussing it in greater detail.
steve bannon
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
We're going to have a couple of specials.
We'll work it out.
Jeff, thank you so much for changing your day up to come on and join us today.
geoff shepard
Absolutely.
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
The reason I wanted to do it is that this week the CIA has fought to hold back Files and in memorandum and in information related to sources methods quote-unquote about Mexico about the CIA's involvement in the Kennedy assassination with Lee Harvey Oswald They're fighting it.
That's 60 years ago 50 years ago And I'm telling you there's so many parallels to what they're doing with Trump with what they did to Nixon that's never been talked about It's out there and the documents are out there Shepard and other people pulled it together and then you've seen a day We've asked Aaron Beatty to change his schedule up Darren
This explosive stuff that's happening with Twitter, you kind of called this shot, but I think even for people who have been in the middle of it, the brazenness, the scale of it, 80 FBI, walk us through what's happened over the last 24, 48 hours to show that, you know, Darren Beattie has not had a tinfoil hat on with a propeller.
Everything you've said happened is now coming to light, did happen, sir.
darren j beattie
I'd love to talk about this, but I can't resist adding to what your previous guest said in relation to the Urban Committee with Nixon.
This is something I actually studied extensively when I worked for Judge Robert Bork as a research associate.
Many of your listeners may remember Robert Bork played a very historic and fascinating role in the Nixon era with the Saturday Night Massacre and everything.
But suffice it to say, during the course of my research there and tons of interviews with a bunch of people involved with the whole Nixon issue, the special prosecutor, and everything.
There was really no additional information that was uncovered in the whole process of the Ervin committee, of the whole process even through the special prosecutor, that wasn't already, you know, there before the special prosecutor existed.
It became this totally unprecedented, completely promiscuous witch hunt into everything without any clearly defined scope.
It was simply Weaponize the entire apparatus of government to find anything they possibly could that's remotely associated with Nixon.
So I think it really is a fascinating and important antecedent to keep in mind when you look generally on what the deep state has done against Trump.
And in particular, um, these Twitter files, which released the sort of national security state slash sort of Disinformation censorship arm of that broader war of the national security state against Trump and his supporters.
steve bannon
No, that's what's so parallel.
Give us an update.
We're going to get you on with Jeff.
We're going to do the whole drill down on this thing because it's so many parallels, and they're going to refer criminal charges on President Trump on Monday.
We know that's going to happen.
Walk me through the FBI.
The FBI and DOJ, Trump's FBI and DOJ, right?
The two got Ray and Barr.
There's no doubt now they took him out, sir.
darren j beattie
Oh yeah, Trump's FBI, Trump's DOJ, and don't forget the Department of Homeland Security, which is really at, you know, front and center of all of this.
As you know, we've been reporting on Revolver News, Department of Homeland Security is the spearhead.
It originally declared, quote-unquote, white supremacy as the number one national security threat under Trump.
You know, we're really learning what we kind of already knew in our gut, but we're seeing the receipts of it, and it's really more damning than we could have ever possibly imagined.
And for anybody who's ever questioned the premise that You know, Twitter is a national security operation and that in order to address the censorship issue of Big Tech, the ultimate bottleneck is confronting the national security state.
After the release of these files, nobody can deny that with a straight face.
steve bannon
But we got to change the conversation, though.
We're going to take a break.
I got a minute here.
I got to get you because I only got a couple of minutes on the side.
This is not a First Amendment issue anymore.
This is about the administration.
This is the Praetorian Guard.
This is from Kennedy to Nixon to today.
They choose who they feel should rule, and they'll give those guys power.
If they don't approve it, it's like the Praetorian Guard.
You're not going to get it.
Darren Beattie, give me 60 seconds on that, sir.
darren j beattie
Well, you know, it is a fascinating question.
Who really rules?
In Russia, it's clear that Putin's in charge.
In China, she is in charge.
In the United States, it's very opaque.
It's never been clear who's actually in charge, and we're getting a better and better idea as revelations of the JFK files come out, revelations of, you know, January 6th come out, and now revelations of the intelligence agency is basically putting pressure on big tech to de-platform a sitting president of the United States, right before, you know, it's...
It's pretty clear that the intelligence agencies think they have a right to be in charge, and that's how they've been operating for a long, long time.
steve bannon
Darren, hang on.
I want to go on the other side, because Revolver is the tip of the spear of you understanding this, and you must understand this.
It's for you to understand.
Because the people must be in power in this nation.
That would be you.
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steve bannon
Okay, people come to War Room, you know, it's not entertainment, it's work, and we understand that, but it's work to save your country.
By the way, everybody, 202-224-3121 is the Senate.
202-225-3121 is the House.
Make sure they hear your opinion this weekend.
We've already killed, for right now, debt ceiling and amnesty.
I think we've killed the Puerto Rican citizen, the independence of Puerto Rico, for now.
And, you know, we're working to try to stuff the Electoral Count Act up in there.
We're going to try to stop that, too.
And, obviously, the omnibus.
Darren Beatty, here's what we need to do, and you're the guy to do it.
We need Revolver.
You've done this now, ever since you founded Revolver, and it's been spectacular.
They're now more relevant than ever, so I'm going to turn to you.
Give us a minute of how people get to the Revolver site and start to read the articles that you've done on this.
Ladies and gentlemen, you've got to understand.
This is quite simple.
The national security apparatus of this nation believes they're in charge of this nation.
Let me just be brutally frank, that means you're not in charge of this nation.
This is not what the founders and framers warned us about this, right?
We've been warned down from time immemorial.
And you looked at history, you looked at the Roman Empire, this happened in the Roman Empire, the administrative state there, the bureaucrats, and then the Praetorian Guard.
When they took charge, they were deciding what was happening.
Okay?
Not the Senate and people of Rome.
We're not going to let it happen here.
And it's happened.
The last 60 years has happened.
Kennedy, Nixon, and Trump.
And it ends here and it ends now.
And the only way it's going to end is you.
Not me, not Trump, not Tucker Carlson, and not Darren Beatty.
unidentified
You.
steve bannon
But you got to get armed with all the information and facts.
Darren, how do they go to a revolver and where do they start?
darren j beattie
Go to revolver.news and you make a great point.
And I've been remiss not to neatly and conveniently categorize all of our pieces on the big tech issue.
And so I'll be sure to do that for the course of the next few days so people can have a very neat and organized way to just go through the entire archives of Revolver News.
Because without congratulating myself too much, I mean, This is really important information.
We've called just about every significant dimension of this from the very beginning, particularly in relation to Big Tech, but also, of course, to January 6th.
But the broader theme tying all of this together is really the role of the national security state in our democracy.
And I really hope it's not true what some political theorists have claimed, that a mass democracy is Um, is, uh, inevitably controlled by a mass media and the mass media is controlled by intelligence agencies and therefore the mass democracy is a lie in the sense that the people aren't in charge.
The intelligence agencies are in charge.
It looks like there's been a lot more truth to that than we ever could have imagined or wanted, but I hope it doesn't have to be the case, but in order to correct that at a radical level from its roots, we have to understand the problem at its roots.
And I think we're really beginning to do that, not only at the conceptual level, but now with the Twitter files and everything else, we have the receipts as well.
steve bannon
Real quickly, how do they get to Revolver and how do they follow you on social media?
darren j beattie
Revolver.news, Revolver.news as always, and again, people can I anticipate a very interesting Trump interview in the near future, so we're going to drop that.
And I'm on Twitter at Darren J. Beatty and Revolver News is on Gitter at Revolver News.
steve bannon
Darren, thank you very much for taking time away on Saturday.
We're going to get everybody over to the site and get all up to speed on this.
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That's, I call it the heuristic device.
Of course, it's a lot of fun.
I know you're in the fun aspect.
I'm on the learning aspect, but it's both.
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
Merry Christmas, Jay.
We'll have you on next week.
Thank you so much, brother.
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