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Dec. 16, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2379: The Base Deserves More Than What The RNC Is Offering
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amanda milius
15:55
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kurt schlichter
05:06
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mark levin
05:59
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steve bannon
13:51
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tucker carlson
01:53
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jake tapper
00:08
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're just not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
tucker carlson
The people have had a belly full of it.
steve bannon
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved!
tucker carlson
Ronna Romney McDaniel has run the RNC, the Republican National Committee in Washington, the Republican Party in Washington for nearly six years.
And she's raised a lot of money.
She's good at that.
But the party has been losing a lot of elections.
So, red state.
Online, the news site decided to look into this.
Where's all the money going?
And Red State found that under Ronna Romney McDaniel, the RNC has spent more than $60,000 at clothing retailers.
More than $300,000 on floor arrangements.
Quite a few expenditures were effectively hidden because they were put in the wrong categories.
According to Red State, quote, nearly $5,000 spent in 2022 at Lululemon, a luxury athletic brand, was classified as an office expense.
Tens of thousands went to Broadway shows and NFL tickets.
In a statement, the RNC said Red State had published a blatantly false piece because all the spending amounts to around 1% of the money Ronna McDaniel raised.
But the most fascinating part of the piece was how much was spent on private planes.
A remarkable amount.
And then Red State, you should take a look at this, compared spending at the RNC to spending at the DNC, which did pretty well in the last election, and found they weren't spending a lot of money on stuff like that, like private planes and Lululemon.
They were spending money on winning elections, which is why they did.
So our friend John Rich is a songwriter, obviously a singer, a famous performer, and also an RNC donor.
He saw this and we were interested in his reaction.
John, thanks so much for coming on.
So, I think like a lot of our viewers, like a lot of people in America, you know you sent money to the party you vote for and you thought it was going to the right places.
What was your response to this story?
unidentified
Well, it's bad enough how they spent the money, as you're outlining, but here's where I really, really got upset, Tucker.
And that's when I realized that the RNC, right after this election, when Trump lost the election, they were running commercials on TV that said, we're fighting for Trump.
So donate to the RNC because we're fighting for Trump.
And they knew that all the conservative base out there was fired up and would send in a lot of money.
Matter of fact, they sent in close to $200 million.
To the RNC.
Meanwhile, I find out that in the back rooms where nobody's allowed to go that the attorneys for the RNC decide that they're going to hit the attorneys for Trump and say cease and desist, sit down and shut up.
You're ruining the future of the Republican Party while they're simultaneously running ads saying fighting for Trump.
So when I saw that go down, I said, these people are scoundrels.
They're liars.
This is a bait and switch.
They are abusing their position with the conservatives around this country.
And I don't think we should call them rhinos anymore after what I've seen them do there.
Because honestly, that's defamatory to the noble rhinoceros.
That's quite an animal.
I wouldn't call them that anymore.
I would call them Judas Republicans, because they betrayed the trust of the people.
They took their money.
And they never intended on using that money for what they said they were going to use it for.
I'd like to see hashtag Judas Republicans trending from this point forward.
We cannot trust what they're doing and until they have new leadership that we can trust, that speaks like us and talks like us and supports what we support, don't send them another red cent.
I know I won't and I hope nobody else does either.
tucker carlson
Wow, that's quite an indictment.
I mean, of course you need two parties, you need two party leaderships, you need to have a functioning party, right?
Are you convinced that if you had better leadership it would get better?
unidentified
You know, I think if it's handled, yeah, in the right way, if you're not lying to people.
I mean, Tucker, you take $200 million out of the pockets of hardworking Americans during a pandemic and say, we're fighting for Trump.
It was a lie the entire time.
And the attorney that was sending those letters back to the Trump campaign still works there, by the way.
They said he was fired.
He wasn't fired.
He still works there.
And you can't trust these people.
Listen, I'm a regular guy.
I have a pretty incredible life, but I'm a regular guy, as you well know.
I don't like being lied to.
And I think we should hold them to account.
No more money until they start telling the truth.
steve bannon
Kurt Schlichter is senior columnist at Town Hall.
He's also a novelist, writes a lot of books.
He's a retired Army infantry colonel and a lawyer, but not a jag.
Kurt, your assessment right there of Tucker and John Rich, sir?
kurt schlichter
Well, first of all, all props out to Jennifer Van Laar of my sister site, Red State.
And a personal friend who did a great job in exposing the financial shenanigans at the RNC.
And John Rich, you know, he's a big star, but he's also represents the base in that the base is outraged.
That the money that was promised to go to win conservative fights has gone to other things.
Okay, this is unacceptable, meaning we can't accept it.
Meaning we have to take firm action, and that means new leadership.
I don't understand the argument for continuing with Rona McDaniel.
She has an unbroken track record of failure through five elections.
I'm not a football guy, but if you lose five games in a row... Didn't your Naval Academy just have to fire a guy for not cutting it against the mighty Army Warriors?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's called accountability.
And Steve, the problem in America right now is a lack of accountability for our ruling class, our elites.
They fail, they screw up, they're greedy and corrupt, and then they're caught, and they kind of shrug and say, oh well, let's just keep going this way.
You know, if she was doing a great job, I wouldn't have a big problem with her taking a little cream off the top and getting her lululemons and her begonias.
That would be fine, okay?
Earn your vigorish.
But she hasn't.
She has failed.
It's unequivocal.
There is no case for her.
She needs to go.
The base demands it.
I ran an unscientific poll on my Twitter account at Kurt Schlichter.
Go follow me.
I'm not throttled anymore, I don't think.
And 5,992 hardcore conservatives voted.
And I said, do you want Ronna McDaniel or someone else?
0.6% wanted Ronna.
96% wanted Ronna.
unidentified
0.6%.
kurt schlichter
Point six.
Steven, 99.4% of Americans don't agree on anything else.
You can't find 99.4% of Americans to agree that Rage Against the Machine is a terrible band.
But they all agree that Brooke Daniels needs to go away.
She may be a nice person.
In the words of Tommy Lee Jones, I don't care.
I don't care about her feelings.
I'm unsentimental about politicians and politician adjuncts like Ronna McDaniel.
She doesn't cut it.
She's not good enough.
She needs to leave.
steve bannon
Kurt, real quickly, given your experience in Nevada showing up on a state that Trump won, and if we'd had the resources and the assets, you know, even given the assembly, we could have put up a bigger and longer fight.
You guys did as good a job as you possibly could coming in after the fact.
What would be your one or two things, regardless of who wins this, that, Kurt, you recommend has to be done immediately at the RNC to start to rejuvenate this and get us back on a winning track?
kurt schlichter
Well, look, there are a lot of things.
And, you know, battle leadership is about synchronizing your assets, synchronizing your forces.
Let me go down the legal side.
We need a beefed up legal team that, you know, consists of actual law firms Not a bunch of lawyers called together, because at the same time you're trying to conduct operations, you're also trying to build the logistical base that allows you to conduct the operations.
You can't do two things at once.
You need a law firm that already exists, and the Republican Party should build one.
It should build a law firm of crack litigators who, during election season, are election lawyers.
And when election season's not going, Stephen, They should bring real lawyers, normal lawyers, with clients.
And you have the Republicans go and say, you don't need to throw us money.
Throw some business to our captive law firm.
Let me train up my guys doing your contract cases, your tort cases, whatever.
And when it comes time to election law, we'll turn our specialty there.
Remember, as a litigator, You can do anything.
If somebody comes to me and says, Kurt, I need you to go try a case, I don't really care if it's medical malpractice or real estate or an employment case or whatever.
My skill set is learning the specific area of law and then presenting the case.
So I say build ourselves a legal framework with a captive law firm of crack litigators who have some election law specialties.
And that way you can prepare the battlefield.
You'd be there well beforehand to file the lawsuit.
There are two kinds of lawsuits you always lose.
You always lose the defense of a workers' comp case.
You always lose an election challenge.
That's just how the law is set up.
Understand that and fight the battle beforehand.
steve bannon
Kurt, what are your coordinates?
How do people get to you, your writings, podcasts, all of it, your novels, the other books, and social media?
How do people get to you?
kurt schlichter
Well, you should follow me on Twitter at Kurt Schlichter.
I have the Schlichter Arena on Locals, and you can go there, and I put up all my columns.
My columns are every Monday, Wednesday, and Thursday at Town Hall.
And get my book, Inferno, which is a fun novel inspired by Andrew.
He said go out and make culture.
I was sick of boring novels that were, you know, the same.
Hero has an enemy, fights the enemy, wins.
I want something else, and I wrote about Political correctness and stuff, and I like to think Andrew's up there kicking back with a beer, reading my novels, and also my nonfiction, like, We'll Be Back from Regnery.
steve bannon
And is Inferno at Amazon?
Can people go there?
Yeah, go get it at Amazon.
kurt schlichter
Yeah, go get it at Amazon.
steve bannon
Kurt, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here.
Thank you very much, sir.
Appreciate it.
Do we have the Levin clip ready?
Let me bring in Amanda Emilius.
Amanda, I know that you're not shy about putting forward your thoughts and your analysis and your observations.
Give me your observations about Nevada, this whole RNC fracas that we have going on because there's an intense fight right now over the leadership of the RNC and I think the direction of the RNC.
Amanda Emilius.
amanda milius
Oh, dude, I am pissed.
You don't want to piss me off on Twitter.
Like, are these people just dumb?
Like, this is the best thing, is that whole fight that went on yesterday that Kurt was also a warrior in.
And let me just say real quick, Kurt, 100% correct.
As even just a measly comms person that did the exact same thing he did, which is in 2020, jump on a plane with nothing in my suitcase and stay there for two months.
Because the RNC team was such a failure that we had to come the day after the election and try and make something out of the mess that they had left, because they certainly weren't interested in doing so.
Absolutely, we need our own Perkins-Cooey.
steve bannon
By the way, that's what he's describing.
He's describing Perkins-Cooey and how to get a Mark Elias type and build a Perkins-Cooey, 100%.
But go back for a second so the audience gets this.
You actually heard the call to arms and you went to Nevada.
Was Nevada the state you went to?
amanda milius
Yes, because I worked there in 2016, so I was really familiar with the legal team that already was on the ground who are actually really good people in state there.
It's a state that I started my political career in.
I know every single county extremely well because my first job was to do the reporting on counties back in 2016.
I know everybody there.
I love Nevada.
I love Nevadans.
Let me make it clear.
I love the people of Nevada.
They deserve better than the RNC, and they deserve much better than the Nevada RNC.
I have a big problem with them, too.
It is not just the main RNC.
We've got big, big problems in Nevada.
Nevada is one of the most corrupt states.
It's like Chicago-style corruption from the 30s.
I mean, it's so bad.
And these people, they deserve more.
These are hardworking moms and dads that take their only days off to come, and they volunteered for Trump, and they believed in Trump, and they believed in Adam Laxalt, and they deserved so much better than what they got.
And to have this, can I curse on this show?
steve bannon
I forget.
No, you're gonna do it anyway.
amanda milius
Okay.
unidentified
We'd like you not to, but you're Amanda Milius.
steve bannon
You're Amanda Milius.
amanda milius
All right, this little crapper, this little nobody, this little 1,200 account little nobody gets marched.
I can see it because it used to be me when the boss would march in your office as the comms person and be like, something bad is happening to me on Twitter.
Get on there and yell at these people.
And comes out there and comes after myself, Kurt, people like Caroline Wren, who is an absolute hero for the party, and everybody that came out in Nevada because they failed, they're gonna come after us?
unidentified
Oh my God, I am gonna shred these guys.
steve bannon
Hang on for a second.
The shredder, Amanda Milius, gonna return and take a short break.
She'll be with us right afterwards.
unidentified
The CCP!
Spread the word all through Hong Kong!
We will fight till they're all gone!
We rejoice when there's no more!
Let's take down the CCP!
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
mark levin
Well, let me tell you.
Over here at Red State, Jennifer Van Laar.
Can't read at all.
But she points out that under this current RNC chair, that they have been on a spending spree.
A spending spree.
She says, despite Joe Biden's economy and three straight cycles of election losses, the RNC's big spending days are back with a vengeance.
They're back with a vengeance.
Perhaps because these losses, both RNC donors and committee members are intensely interested in the committee's finances.
Late last week, Red State provided a report dated October 7 of this year that examined RNC's 21-22 spending, calculated more than $500,000 in private jet expenses, $64,000 at clothing retailers, $321,000 in floral arrangements.
To determine how that compared to the rest of Rona McDonald's tenure, Red State examined R&C expenditures from 2017 through 2022.
2022. And in addition to a review of Federal Election Commission data, Red State spoke with current vendors, State Party officials familiar with the workings, former staffers, several current RNC members to verify their numbers and dates.
Our review found that amounts spent during the 21-22 election cycle seemed to have been par for the course and possibly even lower than previous portions of McDaniel's tenure.
Since 2017, the RNC has spent $3.1 million on private jet services, $1.3 million on limousine and chauffeur services, $17.1 million on donor mementos, Three quarters of a million dollars on floral arrangements.
Eighty thousand dollars in alcohol-related expenditures.
Nearly $400,000 is spent on event tickets and other entertainment activities, including $30,000 for a private box at the Las Vegas Raiders game, $13,000 for Broadway shows, $9,400 at Madison Square Garden, $43,000 at top golf locations in Texas, Nevada, Virginia, and Maryland.
Now when do they fight like dogs for these jobs, Mr. Producer?
The Private Box Raiders game was part of a retreat for senior staff members.
RNC funds were also used to fly the senior staffers and their Plus Ones first class to Las Vegas.
And for their hotel rooms, food and alcohol, the staffers say.
Senior staff retreats were also held at the Salamander Resort in Spahn, Virginia in 2021 and 2022, according to another staffer.
A National Committee member says that at the 2021 retreat, held from March 19 to 21, 30 senior staffers and their families attended, and the RNC paid for Katie Walsh and Mike Shields to speak to the group.
FEC reporting shows that the RNC has paid $260,000 to the resort in 2021 and 2022, classified as travel expenses and venue rental and catering.
The dates of the various entertainment expenditures were provided by former staffers.
Under current leadership, the RNC has spent more than $150,000 on what could be considered non-essential office expenses, including $25,000 on Commonwealth Joe Coffee, $7,000 on cupcakes, nearly $7,000 on candles and diffusers, $75,000 at Pottery Barn, West Elm, Restoration Hardware, Crate and Barrel.
In addition, the committee's FEC report shows expenditures totaling $381,000 classified as furniture expense during the same time frame.
More than $100,000 was spent on high-end clothing stores such as Reebok, REI, Nordstrom, Vineland Vines, Foot Joy, Ralph Lauren, Carhartt, and Smathers & Branson.
An RNC vendor tells Red State that the Vineyard Vines expense, $12,000, was likely for embroidered jackets RNC staffers recently received.
According to the Financial, the RNC is quite generous to its donors.
Spending $17 million on donor memorials and mementos, and possibly more during McDaniel's term.
Custom pins by legendary D.C.
jeweler Anne Hand and Christmas ornaments from Chemart, the company that makes the White House Christmas ornaments, are listed as donor memento expenses.
But the financials also include $65,000 in office supplies from Anne Hand and $28,000 from Chemart.
The records also include more than $100,000 in hair and makeup services and dry cleaning expenses, which presumably are for McDaniel's media appearances and wardrobe.
Dry cleaning expenses are categorized mainly as office supplies or travel expenses, while the hair and makeup services are categorized as media preparation.
tucker carlson
Unbelievable.
mark levin
How they piss away this money.
McDaniel did not reply to Red State's request for comment prior to publication.
Update.
Emma Vaughn, an RNC employee and spokesperson for McDaniel's re-election campaign, provided a statement.
I will give you that statement afterwards.
She needs to go.
She needs to be removed.
And I notice McConnell never talks about her or the RNC.
Or Karl Rove and the millions that that guy makes.
And he just had an op-ed trashing Andy Biggs in the Wall Street Journal.
It's not that I disagree with it, but... You know, Karl, you ought to keep your mouth shut and sit this one out.
Because too many conservatives simply despise you.
steve bannon
I tell you, I don't think anybody, Mark and I don't agree on everything as people know, but man, nobody does it better.
When that brother gets on a roll, it's a roll.
I could listen to that.
And not just that topic.
When Levin gets on it, I could listen to him for hours.
Amanda Milius, your observations, analysis and thoughts on Mark Levin's commentary, ma'am.
amanda milius
Well, now it's clear why they were not able to even pay for the paper that the evidence was printed on in 2020 that we submitted to a judge because they'd spent all the money on Ronna McDaniel trying to make her look presentable for television, which $100,000 is not even going to do.
steve bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ho, ho, ho.
Let's stay classy.
unidentified
I am.
steve bannon
It's me.
unidentified
No, Amanda Milius will go there.
steve bannon
I've known Amanda for a long time.
amanda milius
She will go there.
unidentified
Hang on.
steve bannon
Let's ... No.
amanda milius
Lemon moment.
steve bannon
No, stop, stop, stop.
Let's stay on the facts.
amanda milius
All right, all right, all right.
unidentified
Okay, the facts are, the fact is, why did we all have to go there for free?
amanda milius
Explain to me if they're spending all this money and their job is to win elections.
steve bannon
Let me get to a deeper issue.
Here's the deeper issue.
You knew Nevada.
By the way, we just had the laxalt in the crime of, one of the crimes of the century, or the crime of this midterm.
Was Adam Laxalt not being in the United States Senate?
Let's be blunt.
He had a 22,000 vote lead.
They knew exactly how many ballots they had to generate over that weekend.
They generated the ballots, and by Sunday, he was down, what, by a couple thousand, because the culinary workers and the Harry Reid machine Still run it there?
Why, given that you know Nevada, why was the Nevada GOP and the RNC, or whoever it was, not on top of this prior to you getting a phone call?
Why do you have to get a phone call after the fact?
Why does Kurt Schlichter have to get a call from Ambassador Grinnell after the fact?
Why does Matt Schlapp have to be called out there after the fact?
Brian Kennedy?
All these people that went to Nevada, which we could tell had been stolen from President Trump.
Why did it all have to happen after the fact?
Why was no one on top of this beforehand, Amanda?
amanda milius
Because the Nevada GOP, the Nevada RNC team is in on the grift.
They were sitting around doing nothing when we got there.
Waiting to pack their bags and leave the day after the election.
Then they make up this nonsense about, oh, everyone got COVID.
No, we didn't.
We stayed there.
unidentified
I stayed.
amanda milius
I was the last person to leave.
I was the last person to leave like a week or two into December of 2020.
We fought until the last case.
and there was nobody from RNC there, except for the handful of people they left who were giving inappropriate jobs to their various husbands, coworkers, who were not entitled or not actually trained to do the jobs they were supposed to be doing.
When I got in there, that comms team couldn't even write a tweet, put somebody on TV, do basic communications work.
It was insane.
The fact that we all had to come there at the end is because the entire campaign was run by people who, listen, this is why I left LA.
This is why I left California.
Because working for the GOP in California until Rick Grinnell has come in and started to try to change things, There's no point, because they make money by losing, and that's what the Nevada team was doing.
They didn't care.
They weren't, the word election fraud, none of it was an issue to them.
They were just waiting to go home and cash their checks and go get their jackets, I guess, from Vineyard Vines, which is a whole, I guess you're not going to find that on the DNC list, the Vineyard Vines expense.
I couldn't barf any harder.
steve bannon
The question about the additional 34,000.
Were you guys sitting there ordering the best wines?
Were you partying?
amanda milius
Oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah, let me tell you what that was.
So there was absolutely no setup.
When we got there, there was no war room set up.
There was nothing set up to fight the election.
Meanwhile, we were the fraud hotline for all of the West Coast.
There was no building.
There was nothing set up.
So, the team that got there had to set something up.
They're crying about $34,000 when they're spending that at Lululemon for a lady that's never worked out.
Like, what are you talking about?
And basically, from what I understand, the war room was set up at the last minute.
I'm sure they got whatever they could get.
steve bannon
Let's go to break.
I'm going to hold you over a few minutes.
I knew you were going to get that shot in.
I got it.
That's Amanda Milius.
She's a pro.
amanda milius
You have to work out in the pants.
You can't just put them on.
unidentified
You have to actually work out.
Stop.
steve bannon
I brought this one on myself.
unidentified
The Amanda Milius shirt commercial break.
I'll be back in a second.
steve bannon
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By the way, Boston Tea Party, 16 December, 249 years ago.
Did we do the math right?
Can I double check that production team?
Absolutely incredible.
It couldn't be more with Sam Adams and Hancock in that crowd than Amanda Milius, who is a revolutionary.
Amanda, you've laid out your thoughts and you're bitching and moaning.
Tell me about what would you do?
What are the two or three things you think has to happen?
And in your mind, is Rana the person to lead this organization going forward?
Or if not, is it Mike Lindell or Hermit Dillon?
amanda milius
No, it's Harmeet Dhillon, and let me tell you why.
Because Kurt Schlichter is 100% right.
This all comes down to lawfare.
And Harmeet is a tough...
Genius election law expert and a litigator.
She does not care if, she's like me, she walks in the office, she doesn't care if you like her that day, if you've got your bouquet of flowers on your desk.
She's there to get the job done and I know that because I've worked alongside her and I love her for that.
I love a tough, You know what?
And she is.
Ronna is an absolute nobody.
I never saw her in Nevada because all she was doing in 2020 was sitting in the Oval Office screaming at us saying, send me more, send me more depositions, send me more stuff.
So she could run up to the president and go, look, look what the RNC is doing.
We're fighting for you.
We're fighting for you.
No, they weren't.
That wasn't them.
unidentified
That was us.
amanda milius
That was the free team.
That's what we call the free team that shows up when the RNC screws up So that we can try and fix the mess, and these little morons are gonna whine that they're like, oh, they had to get a space to have a war room.
Where was your war room for post-election?
What, you didn't think this was gonna happen in Nevada?
Anyway, so obviously Ronna absolutely must go.
I suggest she go anywhere but the RNC, perhaps to Orange Theory.
But the idea is, I am 110% behind Harmeet.
Because again, Kurt is correct.
This is about lawfare.
I may be a comms person, but I'm a comms person that works for, many times over, works for the attorneys trying to explain complex legal ideas to the general public so Americans can know what's going on with their elections.
That's my specialty.
That's why I made the movie that I made, because really, Plot Against the President is an explanation of a congressional and a legal proceeding that unveiled immense crimes.
So my job is to explain this stuff to the American people.
But we need competent, tough lawyers.
And let me remind you, one other thing, besides the Republican Perkins Coie that we need to build, you know what they had?
They had, also, the Oh my God, I'm blanking on the name.
They made the movie.
I'm like, they had Fusion GPS, right?
And the reason that's important is because Fusion GPS was connected to Perkins QE.
unidentified
And what was that?
amanda milius
That was the comms side of it.
That's where they handled the comms department from real professionals, putting out the material that the legal side wanted put out.
It all has to start with the legal side.
steve bannon
Before I let you go, you did make the movie off the Lee Smith book, right?
Yes.
The genius Lee Smith.
The genius Lee Smith, the revelations that have come out in the last couple of weeks on Twitter, but particularly we got Jack Dorsey and these guys saying, hey, this was really, it turned out to be a government operation.
Is your belief, given your depth of knowledge off of the first part of this coup against the president, that the Justice Department, the FBI, with Twitter and these other social media groups, basically what you guys saw in Nevada was a coup against the president, that he was removed from office by the FBI and DOJ and other parts of the intelligence and national security apparatus, ma'am?
amanda milius
100 percent, and I'm going to take it one step further.
Back in 2016, I was never worried that the president was going to win the general because I knew our movement was working too fast.
What I was worried about was the primary because our enemy is the RNC.
The problem with 2020 is we let the enemy in the war room.
So when we were doing 2016, we were, we knew who the enemy was.
We were fighting both the RNC and the DNC.
We were our own thing.
And I say that as a full on Trump Republican.
Now, the problem is, is that in Nevada, you had people who were perfectly, not just willing, but I believe their goal was for Trump to lose.
And I believe their goal is to keep ...set themselves in a losing position because they still get their little prizes and treats no matter what.
steve bannon
Hold it, hold it, hold it.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Hang on.
Slow down.
Slow down.
Hit the rewind button on that.
What did you just say?
I didn't catch the last part.
I just said the... I mean, I caught it, but I want to make sure I understand it because, you know, Amanda, you're a little bit like me.
You hit with a fire hose.
So just hit rewind.
unidentified
Yeah.
steve bannon
Go back.
amanda milius
Okay.
steve bannon
Let's play this scene again.
Okay.
Give it to me.
amanda milius
Okay, so I think that the RNC is the enemy just as much as the DNC.
It's the uni party.
You're the one that talked about this.
Andrew Breitbart talked about this.
I learned this from guys like you and I saw it up front.
I believe they wanted Donald Trump to lose just as much as the DNC.
I believe they were in cahoots.
That's why we cannot trust them until they are cleaned out from top to bottom.
steve bannon
A lot of these people, and particularly people who have given the $200 million, you've had volunteers across the nation.
That's a pretty...
Uh, how do I say this?
Electrifying charge.
Is there evidence that you can bring to, to, to, to bring that?
I mean, in your film, it's complete with evidence.
It's one of the powers of your film.
So what, what evidence, that's a pretty big charge, ma'am.
How do you back that up?
amanda milius
Their behavior.
You can't, you can't be that dumb.
When I first, the moment I learned it was when I first walked into DC and I thought we were all on the same team.
And actually before that, when I walked in in 2016 and the RNC team in Nevada was covering up Trump's face with stickers before they would put door hangers up and they would try to steal.
And I was like, wait, aren't they on our side?
And I learned very quickly they were not.
And I do not believe that they have changed.
The other thing I want to answer, because you asked me something important, the Twitter files.
Okay.
Here's the thing.
I may be solo focused because obviously I'm a Russiagate obsessive, but I actually don't think there are separate coups.
I think it's one coup.
Russiagate is what it all is going to come down to.
I think everything else was to protect what was discovered in Russiagate.
Russiagate was the one moment, the crack in the simulation where we were able to see behind the scenes.
And I believe that all of the work that has been done to cover up the reality behind Twitter is actually to continue hiding the coup of Russiagate, which turned into Ukrainegate, Which turned into COVID gate, which turned into election gate, which turned into whatever gate you want it to be.
It begins and ends with Russiagate.
steve bannon
I want to bring, I want to just have the building blocks and you connect.
It's the nullification project that immediately turns into Russiagate, right?
They're going to nullify this thing starting the very moment that he wins because they wouldn't expect.
So the nullification project becomes Russiagate.
That segues into the first impeachment, the Ukraine part of it, right?
That segues immediately into the biomedical industry, that part of it.
And then it gets into the whole DOJ, FBI, the fourth leg of the stool, which was denying him the election.
Those four anchors, those four component pieces, you believe you can do connective tissue all the way through? 100%.
amanda milius
That's not what, and again, I'm not saying this because Plot Against the President is a great gift to get your relatives on DVD as stocking stuffers and are available on Amazon and Walmart.com and still the number one most viewed political doc of all time available on Amazon.
But, because it is the blueprint, and like I said, everything, all roads lead back to Russiagate.
When we saw Jim Baker as the first guy out, and then we saw that list of other people from the FBI and CIA.
Now remember, actually, I'm gonna go a little ADD on you.
unidentified
The president made an announcement- Hold it, hold it, hold it, hang on, stop, hang on, hang on.
Yeah.
steve bannon
Amanda Millis is gonna go a little ADD.
Thanks for the warning.
amanda milius
Well, I mean, yeah, you're welcome.
So, so- Keep rolling.
OK, so here's the thing.
So the president made a couple announcement yesterday.
I'm a little annoyed that the NFT nonsense is overshadowing the video that he put out, because the video he put out that describes exactly what I want to hear, which is that he is going to...
Yes.
So as somebody who's down here, I was at Mar-a-Lago last night.
It was a beautiful event.
I think that video needs to be played a million times over because that's what needs to happen.
He understands it.
So if you're not watching Plot Against the President, watch the President's video.
steve bannon
Let me put a pin in this.
The Daily Mail all night had the huge thing of Cortez and Gorka night, you know, Bannon turns on Trump or something like that.
Bannon turns on Trump.
And then the headline was, Bannon still supports Trump.
No, what we said, what we said, what we said yesterday is that, and we did a half hour with Darren Beatty, the most significant policy that President Trump has come up with since then was yesterday.
And it was seven minutes.
It was magnificent, hit every beat.
And these are complicated issues.
Minor issues that we got, we got to start.
That's what we have to vote.
That's what we have to stop the omnibus.
We have to have the ability to cut off appropriations now to do it.
But I, and I'll be blunt, that NFT thing stepped on it.
unidentified
That's all you heard last night.
steve bannon
But I want you to know, but I want you to go back cause you're an expert in this.
Give me two minutes on why what the president said yesterday on the real video, the seven minute one, about misinformation and disinformation from your perspective, who's a professional and expert, is so powerful, ma'am.
amanda milius
Well, it's so powerful because it shows he finally gets the details.
Okay, so this drove me nuts when I was in the administration because I would go to those conferences at the Atlantic Council.
I would go to those conferences in the national security state where they invented the concept of misinformation and disinformation to silence conservative voices.
There were people in there saying, what do we have to do to get Fox News off off people's TVs.
They're like, oh, I don't know, let's call it misinformation and disinformation.
And I'm sitting there not wearing a name tag, hiding out before people figured out who I was.
And I'm freaking out, sending memos up the chain.
Obviously nobody listened to me, whatever.
It's a Cassandra complex.
But I have been screaming about this since I first entered the administration because this has been their plan for years and years and years.
And finally, in that video, I couldn't have written it better myself.
It is exactly what needs to happen.
It's what he did when he came in and he said, nobody's going to be lobbyists coming out of my administration. When he said that about the DOJ and the FBI and the CIA folks who are basically not leaving their jobs, they're simply taking their jobs over to Twitter, Google, and all the other tech companies so they can continue to execute their jobs of silencing the American people from those higher positions and get paid more. That's what they're doing. And the fact that he called that out, I'm like, yes,
finally. Yes, yes, yes. I couldn't support it more. It is exactly what's been happening for ever since I got in D.C. So as someone whose job was, you know, I was invited to those conferences just based on my position at State Department. It was precisely what they've been working on for all these years and we just let them do it right under our noses. I mean, I remember when I was in the White House freaking out about them banning anybody off of Twitter and saying we need
to invite these people to the White House and say you will not silence these people.
And then through the bad guys that worked at the White House, it got filtered into like a diamond in silk roundtable.
I was like, no, that's not what I was talking about.
I was talking about bringing people like, you know, all of the most banned people together.
unidentified
I love, I love, I love them too, but like, I don't need another diamond and silk round table.
amanda milius
I mean, they're lovely people, but like.
steve bannon
Hang on a second.
Chill.
Um, just stick.
We're going to take a commercial break.
We've got to pay for this and we're going to bring you back right after the commercial break.
It's Amanda Milius.
People don't realize she was at the State Department for President Trump and over at the White House.
Also, Trump administration and a provocateur and a revolutionary.
And a great filmmaker.
Tremendous director.
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steve bannon
OK, our guest is Amanda Miller.
I want everybody.
I want these numbers taken down.
I think put them up on the on the board, two zero two.
202-225-3125, excuse me, 3-1-2-1.
3124 3121 is the Senate.
202-225-3125 excuse me 3121.
That's 202-225-3121 is the House.
Light the phones up.
You're having a massive impact already.
Debt ceiling kind of dead.
Amnesty bleeding out.
It's all about the omnibus.
Let them know what you think.
We need to have the ability to have leverage.
This leverage is about the ability to tell them there is no money until you come to the table and we set things right.
On the border, about DOJ, about FBI, across the board, about Ukraine.
There's $37 billion in this package just on Ukraine.
Okay?
And not to say you gotta get control of the spending.
By the way, I think it's the Williams at the Atlanta Fed.
I think he's the Atlanta Fed.
New York Fed.
Oh, he's the big, he's the heavy.
Oh, wow.
I thought it was the Atlanta Fed.
He's the New York Fed is the Fed.
That's the trading desk.
The Federal Reserve just made a comment.
Well, you know, I don't think interest rates have to go beyond six percent.
He dropped the six number.
Yeah, that's going to make guys weekends.
It's clear these trades out right now.
We're going to talk a lot about economics in the in the evening.
By the way, we're trying to get Rana on.
Hopefully we schedule her for this afternoon because people have taken a bunch of shots at her and hence the worry.
We get to take shots back.
Amanda, I think your first film was so brilliant.
I hope you're working with Lee Smith and other people because you laid out the three other pieces.
This is the biggest story in American political history, and we've made the case.
And I just want to say that it is unacceptable.
They did not release all the information.
It's not sources and methods.
It's all BS.
Not at all.
They kept the CIA and the FBI.
Look, we know for a fact the intelligence community And the FBI specifically removed Richard Nixon from office.
And we know they removed Donald Trump from office and that those documents can show that the documents that can anything shows that the CIA and the FBI have not been forthcoming whatsoever about their role with Lee Harvey Oswald and what they knew about Lee Harvey Oswald and what the real investigation should have been.
One could argue they've taken out three presidents.
Since 1960, okay?
Oh, absolutely.
This is the Praetorian Guard.
This is like the Roman Empire, where the Praetorian Guard decided, hey, we like this emperor, we don't like that emperor.
And they try to take out Reagan with Irangate.
amanda milius
And then guess what happened after they took shots at Reagan?
Guess who got control over the foreign policy?
Bush senior right after they tried to kill him Bush senior got control of foreign policy and what did we get we got a Ron Contra we got all the little weird CIA games. That's what they do Okay, so I I can't get into what movies I'm working on right now, but I am very focused on on two things Obviously, I'm working with Mark Eglinton who you introduced me to and I'm Historical material that we will talk about privately until I am ready to release it publicly
steve bannon
Aglikin is a great writer.
That book he did is amazing.
amanda milius
Yes, buy it now.
No domain.
steve bannon
No domain.
unidentified
Do you have personal security, ma'am?
amanda milius
Okay, so I, well, I don't know.
I brought Daniel Bostic with me down here last night.
unidentified
That's not bad.
steve bannon
That's a start.
Bostic's a start.
Okay, Bostic's a start.
I might upgrade, but he's a start.
Hold up, we gotta bounce.
unidentified
I would be remiss.
steve bannon
Charlie Kirk follows us.
Charlie Kirk follows us at 12 noon on Real America's Voice.
Stick around for the populist, nationalist, fire-breather that is Charlie Kirk.
I want everybody to understand, starting tomorrow in Metro Phoenix, you gotta go to tpusa.com slash war room to get your tickets, also Charlie's book.
Everybody's gonna be out there.
We're gonna be out there.
I'm gonna do a meet and greets.
If you come, You're going to get a handshake and a, hey, how you doing?
We'd love meeting the entire posse when they come out there.
We want people to pack the place.
So make sure we did an event with Charlie on the Great Reset a couple of months ago, and I was stunned by the amount of War Room Posse that showed up.
So I want everybody to turn out.
This is going to be a great way to end the year.
More importantly, it's going to be a great way to fire off the football.
tpusa.com slash warroom.
Go check it out and you get a discount on Charlie's book.
By the way, states out here right now are making a law that you don't need to be a college graduate to take a state job.
It's fantastic.
Charlie's book tells you why it's fantastic.
Amanda, where do people get your fiery personality in your writings and your films?
Where do they go?
amanda milius
Well, for the films, please go to amdcfilms.com where you can also submit if you're a creative that wants to work with us.
There's a career section where you can pull down the drop-down menu and submit your resume and your reel or whatever you want.
The other thing I want to say is you can follow me at AmandaMilius, which is my Twitter handle, or Amanda underscore Milius at Instagram if you want to just see pictures of me taking pictures and dresses at events.
The one thing I do have to say though, that I would be, yeah, there's me smoking, or smoking a Juul in George Kennan's office, if you can imagine.
So the one thing I'd be remiss in saying though, listen, Daniel Bostic came down here with me last night, because we went to this event at Mar-a-Lago, but listen, he came to Nevada with me both times, okay?
And you know what he did?
He helped organize the largest peaceful protest outside of the courtroom, when we were denied by the judge any look at our evidence.
And he was a fighter alongside of us.
And for free, another, for free, comes and organizer and activist, one of the biggest activists in the United States.
He was a co-founder of Stop the Steal, which was a very, very successful operation.
And he came with me to Nevada and as another one of these people that that little twerp that Rana sent after us to try to quiet us on Twitter, which was the stupidest thing ever.
I mean, did the guy not even look at my account?
Like, dude, I don't let these things go.
I will tweet all night at you.
But anyway, so he went after us, he went after Daniel, he went after everybody.
But anyway, so yes, you can follow me there at AllMyAntics.
And no, I do not write books.
I can't write anything longer than a tweet.
That's why I make movies.
steve bannon
Amanda, you're amazing.
I'll call you after the show and talk about this film you want to talk about.
So thank you very much.
Amanda Milius.
Filmmaker extraordinaire from a pretty good lineage.
Father's one of the great filmmakers of the 20th century, John Milius.
And screenwriters, I might add.
One of the best writers, director of Hollywood and the history of the business, Amanda Milius.
Okay, Charlie Kirk's up next.
Charlie Kirk gonna bring the heat in the Charlie Kirk Show right here on Real America's Voice.
We're gonna be back here 5 to 7.
It will be lit.
It will be as lit as this morning's show.
See you then.
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