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Dec. 9, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2361: The Art Of The Stochastic Terrorism At Twitter; Judas Pence Helped Promote Lockdowns
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steve bannon
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Baskin.
rick santelli
Oh yeah, I agree with the notion that we are 4.3 million jobs more than last Christmas said Steve May, but we're probably about 4.3 to 4.7 million less than we were pre-COVID.
And as far as the wage spiral, consider something very simple.
All the metrics today, all PPI, as I said, had their high watermark.
Their highest level, whether month over month, over year over year, was in March.
Guess what year over year wages were in March?
Year-over-year hourly earnings were up 5.6% in March.
That was their high watermark, so across the board.
And yes, they went under 5% for October, and they came back in the November jobs report to slightly over 5.
But I don't see a spiral there.
I see stubbornness, but I don't see guns hot, and I think that's significant.
andrew ross sorkin
Hotter than expected on the headline and the core numbers for more on the markets and the market reaction right now I want to bring in Brendan Vangela chief investment officer at Sand Hill Global Advisors Also, the CBC contributor you're watching the markets moving lower already as expectations that maybe Jay Powell is gonna say Inflation's still here. What do you think? I Think we need to wait to get the CPI number next week But I will say that this figure the PPI this morning is certainly a disappointment
steve bannon
You're here to make a significant announcement.
unidentified
I've registered as an Arizona Independent.
I know some people might be a little bit surprised by this, but actually, I think it makes a lot of sense.
You know, a growing number of Arizonans and people like me just don't feel like we fit neatly into one party's box or the other.
And so, like many across the state and the nation, I've decided to leave that partisan process.
Really just focus on the work that I think matters to Arizona and to our country, which is solving problems and getting things done.
So your voting record is pretty capital D Democratic.
jake tapper
I mean, your views are generally that of a moderate centrist Democrat.
unidentified
How does leaving the party change how you do your job?
Well, I don't think anything will change about how I do my job.
Arizona sent me to the United States Senate to be an independent voice for our state, and I'll continue doing that.
What I think is important about this decision and this move is that I'll be able to show up to work every day as an independent and not be You know, stuck into one party's demands of following without thinking.
And as we've seen in recent years, both parties have created this kind of requirement or a pull towards the edges that you just unthinkingly support all of one party's viewpoints.
It's made it difficult to find folks who are willing to work together and solve problems.
Now, as you know, Jake, we've been able to do a lot of bipartisan work over the last couple of years, and I'm incredibly proud of that.
And I think it's important for folks across my state, and frankly across the country, to say, yep, there's someone that's kind of like me.
Doesn't fit neatly into one box or the other, but is standing up for their values, for what they believe in.
And it's doing it without trying to get one over on the other party or beat the other guy.
joe scarborough
Yeah.
And finally, I hate to even bring it up.
This Elon Musk.
The Twitter files?
Twitter files.
It is so laborious.
And there are people that are catastrophizing in some cases.
Over terms of services that were talked about in 2018.
But every day, somebody else puts on sackcloths and ashes and they act like the world is coming to an end.
Could you just sort through?
It's just nonsense.
I still, for the life of me, I can't figure out why Elon Musk is wasting his time in all of this nonsense.
But he is, so whatever.
Can you explain to us what's going on here?
andrew ross sorkin
Well, I think what you're seeing is you are seeing inside how some of these decisions were made.
This idea we've long heard about shadow banning and and which which tweets are getting amplified and which tweets are being deamplified.
And we're starting to see how some of that worked.
One of the things that Elon Musk said early on when he bought this company was that he wanted to make it more transparent, open up how that happened.
You'd hear from people years ago who would say that they were being shadow banned and they didn't know it or didn't know how it happened.
So now we're seeing some of that.
I'm not sure it's a surprise.
And I think if you do believe in content moderation, and there's a question is content moderation at odds with free speech, and that's part of what this is all about.
You know, we're seeing some of that.
Having said that, I'm not sure, as I said, it's a surprise.
And the question from an economic perspective is whether advertisers look at this and look at the prospect of this stuff getting distributed the way it is and say, I want to actually put money behind this company or not.
And as you know, he has a lot of debt that he's going to actually have to pay down over time.
And so getting advertisers to get back on that platform are going to be important to him.
And I think it's still a big open question about whether their plan to support him or not.
steve bannon
Bad day for Andrew Ross Sorkin there of the New York Times.
Friday, 9 December in the year of our Lord 2022.
Of course, Elon Musk bought a crime scene.
That's not exactly what the Guardian's not specifically talking about in their weekly magazine.
Not specifically talking about...
Twitter, another topic, but it is a crime scene.
As we said, he bought a crime scene, and now he's going through the forensics, which only gets curiouser and curiouser every second.
Of course, Joe Scarborough's got the big scrunched up face.
He's got the Mika face.
He's got Mika face.
By the way, welcome to the adjunct of Morning Mika.
We're going to put these mugs, you know, we're going to start selling these mugs.
We'll sell two billion of them.
Bad news on inflation.
You saw the scrunched-up faces, Steve Leesman and the guys of CNBC.
Bad news on inflation.
It's persistent.
Got to wait for the consumer number, but the producer price number, just hang it, will not come down.
So that's going to be a big question about what the Fed's going to do about all of this.
You've got Kristen Sinema.
A surprise, everybody, except for the War Room.
We said back when she went to McConnell, remember she went up to Kentucky to the McConnell Institute?
Good God, what is that?
The McConnell Institute up, I think, in Lexington gave a talk.
This was, I think, in September, right after Labor Day, if memory serves me correctly.
And she talked about the filibuster.
And we said at the time that she's looking to become an independent, so is Manchin.
If we had won on Tuesday with Hershel Walker, she would have gone independent and caucused with the Republicans.
That's the type of prize we had on Tuesday to actually take control of the Senate.
But you see Manchin and others going to be, so the Senate is essentially going to be tied.
Um, she's going to caucus with the Democrats.
At least she's indicating she's going to caucus with the Democrats.
We'll get in all of that.
I think Carrie Lake today, later today is going to drop, uh, her, um, suit.
We're gonna talk about this later, her suit in Arizona to claim the governorship that she won and was stolen from her.
I want to start with Darren Beatty.
Darren, um, Morning Joe goes, I don't know why he has this one.
I don't know why he has to continue on.
It's like the world is coming to an end.
It's bad news.
All the lies and misrepresentations and it's not just the media.
It's the true stories coming out in the administrative state.
You see there directly.
I mean, you've been dead right.
This is a law enforcement quote-unquote and intelligence apparatus.
Not really a company, you know, it's that it's the Global Town Hall and they're in complete meltdown about the implications particularly as they drill down more and show the lying misrepresentation cover-up.
Inside the crime scene called Twitter.
Darren Beattie of Revolver.
Your assessment, sir?
darren j beattie
Well, I mean, it's certainly pleasant to see them squirm at MSNBC, but it's also kind of remarkable to see how they play this off like it's nothing.
It's like, oh yeah, that's nothing, you know.
Most important communications platform in the world is just Actively, aggressively... No, it's a term of service debate.
steve bannon
Darren Beattie and Matt Taibbi and Barry Weiss and all that.
You're really having a discussion about a term of service from 2018.
He framed it correctly, didn't he, Joe Scarborough?
darren j beattie
I mean, it goes to show there's no amount of revelation that will shock these people into shame.
They'll never feel shame, so just forget about it.
For them to play it down like it's nothing and even to say it's a terms of service issue where, you know, we've seen repeatedly throughout these Twitter files that for one, they basically shoehorned this contrived and false pretext of hacked materials in order to censor coverage of the Hunter Biden laptop in, you know, the immediate period leading up to the presidential election.
And then we learned last night that They've done a similar thing in order to contrive a pretext in order to ban certain Twitter accounts like Libs of TikTok.
In their internal communications, they admit that this particular account didn't even violate any of their rules.
And they're saying, nonetheless, and they implicitly invoke this concept that we've discussed on Revolver News and elsewhere called stochastic terrorism.
They're saying, Even though there isn't an explicit violation of our rules, and they were like, please, please violate so we can permanently ban, but as long as there's no explicit violation, we are going to say that there is a general atmosphere of sort of negativity directed at marginalized groups, which could result in violence.
And this is all speaking implicitly to this concept of stochastic terrorism, by which they mean any time you criticize anyone that you don't want them to criticize, that could be catalyzing some random crazy person to engage in an act of violence against that person.
So because any kind of critical speech could potentially lead to violence, we need to silence it and crush it.
Only the wonderful thing about that is it doesn't apply to their side.
And it is another part of the Twitter files revelations exposed, is that people were actually doxing and putting the home address of the account holder behind libs of TikTok in a manner that was actually designed to inspire violence.
and Twitter did nothing about it despite the fact that they were justifying the censorship of this account with the same rationale.
So it's really, I mean again in a way I'd have to agree with MSNBC is that it's not It's not a surprise to me.
And I guarantee you there are far worse things that haven't yet come out and might not come out, which is an issue we should talk about as to what kind of exercise this Twitter files thing is.
Is it, you know, to provide a little bit of transparency, but also to cover up the big stuff?
Or is it a full kind of sanitation exercise to fully expunge all of the sewage from from Twitter's internal communications and actually get on a new start on the right foot.
steve bannon
But what we know so far, talk about Baker, we know that even in their process of trying to do this, they've been internally, this is why they fired Baker unceremoniously, fired Baker because inside we now know that even when Elon Musk was there with, and he's got some heavy guys he brought in, lawyers and others, Alex Spiro, David Sacks, these are very heavy individuals.
They...
Baker looked him in the eye and lied to them then, and even they're implicating he may have destroyed evidence.
Give us a minute on that before we go to break.
darren j beattie
Well, that's an astonishing possibility, and unless he was some kind of ultra-sophisticated technician, chances are if he were deleting incriminating files, there would be a digital trail of these attempts at deletion.
And if that's the case, that clearly needs to be made public.
So, you know, it's, it's something that Elon's team needs to look at very, very carefully to see if is there any kind of digital trail that would suggest an attempt at tampering with this evidence, deleting it, using the old Hillary Clinton, like, Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break.
steve bannon
By the way, James Baker was general counsel under Comey at the NRA for a while.
By the way, he had to be forced out.
Ray didn't want to fire him.
He's just a flat-out criminal.
Not me saying that, it's Elon Musk.
Elon Musk terminated him, and then has tweeted out, hey, not just suppression of information, maybe destruction of evidence.
This is the way the American Gestapo at the FBI, you like that, Ray?
You like that, Garland?
The American Gestapo at the FBI, that's the way they roll.
Darren Beatty, Revolver, next in the War Room.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bass.
You can tell from the economic news and it ain't going to get better.
steve bannon
It's going to get a lot worse.
We're going to talk about what's happening on Capitol Hill.
I think we've got some victories coming up if we stay focused and if you guys continue to work the phones.
I'm hearing overwhelmingly calls into the House and Senate about no omnibus, no debt ceiling relief.
You're not thrilled about the defense budget, the woke defense budget, and of course amnesty.
Uh, blowing up this move by Tom Tillis and, um, these collaborationists to try to push through amnesty.
We did get news in the amnesty bill that can't be, it's not going to be part of any omnibus.
That was the trick.
They're going to try to attach it to it.
To make sure you can just get it through on 51 votes.
Can't happen.
Um, that's off the table.
So we're continuing to pound.
All you can do is pound.
I think this is so far.
If we keep pounding, not too shabby, but you can't afford to pay for any of this stuff.
They don't even talk about how you finance the omnibus bill.
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Mike Lindell, who's now running for the head of the RNC.
He and Harmeet Dhillon.
Another letter out today from Seven.
We had Andrew Clyde on the other day.
Very impressive guy, former naval officer, combat veteran, coming in, throwing in hard on Big Tech, in the Big Tech censorship, he wants to break up the duopoly.
He signed a letter, I think seven of them signed a letter to McCarthy, laid out five or six things that have to happen, include vacate the chair, which basically keeps the speaker on the On a uh on a short leash which McCarthy says he's never do so it looks like you got five these seven look like At least they they say they're going to be no votes.
So you may have 10 12.
I hear there may be even more so that thing's heating up Non-stop want to go back to Darren Beatty over revolver Darren, here's the thing you called this the global town hall And here's what's evident The left is headed so easy in controlling the narrative and now You know, it's gonna be because they're fact-checking Elon Musk's point.
And by the way, for some people who are sitting there going, Steve, you're always running down Elon Musk.
Hey, what he's doing on Twitter, and particularly on the call, and I hung around for all four hours of it.
We were working on other things, but I had one ear open.
Two hours of Elon talking, two hours of Seb Gorka and some other guys, the ten guys that interviewed him, talking.
He said he spent 90% of his time on engineering.
I think it's far inferior to Getter, right?
I just do.
You could tell even from the talk they had.
We had 40,000 people live-streaming on Getter.
He's spending 90% of his time on engineering.
I said the guy's a great engineer.
My issue with him is, number one, his involvement with the Chinese Communist Party.
I'm not backing off.
They don't like that.
It's a free country.
That's okay.
He's financing.
They're talking now about even taking a bigger margin loan on Tesla.
Binance and Sequoia.
Sequoia is a front for the CCP, the big venture capital fund in Silicon Valley.
Open secret.
They're under investigation, by the way, by House Intel.
They may not know that, but they're under investigation by House Intel, have been for a long time.
Binance.
That's another front organization.
That guy's CCP.
And you've got Tesla, where he's got all the stock.
All this Tesla stock's margin.
By the CCP, the thing's fully financed by CCP.
Plus, my bigger concern is Neuralink.
And no, I'm not that concerned about the experiments on monkeys.
You gotta do what you gotta, you know, that's supposed to be regulated.
And fouching these guys clearly don't play by the rules on that, but there's supposed to be regulations about animals so they're not tortured.
My bigger problem is what he's doing with humans.
Putting chips in.
We got Joe Allen coming up.
I think in Netherlands, they're putting ads out right now about kids getting chipped because it makes you, you know, you don't have to put your hands on your phone.
You can just do it all in your brain.
You can TikTok from your brain.
I got a big problem with Elon Musk on that.
I got a big problem with the CCP.
And if you got it and some people don't like it because I'm getting a little bit lit in the comments, that's okay.
This is a comment on Getter.
That's okay.
It's a free country.
You can speak your peace.
I respect your speaking your peace, but I'm not backing off those two things.
But I think on Twitter, he's doing as good a job as he can, Darren Beattie.
Your public town square at the left.
They're just not going to have it easy anymore.
Morning Joe, that's for the scrunched faces.
The world is coming to an end, Joe Scarborough says.
His world is coming to an end.
Is that not correct, Darren?
These guys have been fat, dumb, and happy with Twitter as a town hall where they can crush Charlie Kirk, Dan Bongino, Darren Beattie.
Don't have to have revolver, take war room.
Our Twitter, I don't have, never had a Twitter account.
Even when I was partners with Andrew Breitbart, who was the king of Twitter before Trump and Elon Musk, everyone came on the horizon.
He was the king of Twitter.
We had war room and it was taken down because we were putting up information from the hard drive, laptop from hell on Biden.
And we now know that the government, Taibbi's exposed that the White House went to them and said, take down the pictures.
Darren Beattie.
darren j beattie
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's amazing to see them freak out over the prospect of The other side having a modicum of speech.
It's still nowhere near an even playing field because this exists within a broader ecosystem and I suspect the regime is yet to pull some levers it has at its disposal in order to attack Elon.
So the story hasn't been fully written yet, but it's certainly true that if you're on the left, if you're one of these sort of mediocre commentators like Scarborough, it's like These people have never had an original idea in their lives.
They've never demonstrated courage in their lives.
They're sitting on the easiest type of sinecures imaginable because they're just mindlessly parroting everything that's shoved into their mouths by a system that is much bigger than them and that they don't fully understand.
And so for these kind of mediocrities, like when they get a little taste of what it would look like in a level playing field, they freak out, not just because it speaks to maybe a change in sort of the competitive dynamic between right and left, but because it forces them, however slightly, however implicitly and subconsciously to confront the fact
of their own inadequacy and mediocrity because they see just what they get a hint of what it would look like if we were in a real playing field and it were just two sides in the arena without any thumbs tipping the scales.
So I think it's interesting to see as a kind of... But hang on, but hang on, hang on.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Don't bury the lead here.
What this is showing is that your theory of the case, it's not just some tech platform, and it's a couple articles on Atlantic, and it's some stuff, and they're saying, oh, war rooms, a fringe podcast, and Darren Beatty's a white nationalist who went to lunch one time and gave a speech at a, a guy sat in the audience.
It's not that.
It's showing the complete interlocking nature Of the national security apparatus in the media, they are literally merged in one and having back channel conversations, talking, doing exactly what they want.
The White House can call up, FBI can call up, they're having meetings, they're taking all these FBI agents and hiring them.
It's what Andy Clyde's Uh, his bill is that says the government can't do something indirectly that they're prohibited from the Constitution doing directly.
He's saying, hey, Facebook, Twitter, all these are just arms of the U.S.
national security state.
Isn't what Elon Musk has just proven in the last 10 days show that?
And that's why they don't want to talk about it.
That's where they got Andrew Sorkin saying, you know, they better watch out.
There are going to be advertisers, you know, the warning shots, the warning shots, correct?
darren j beattie
Absolutely.
And look, that's why when they say that free speech on Twitter is a threat to national security, they are right.
They are right in the sense that the globalist American empire is so predicated on a series of malicious lies that it simply cannot coexist with an atmosphere of free speech at scale, which is what Elon Musk threatens to restore on Twitter.
The crooks who run this illegitimate regime couldn't survive one day in an atmosphere of free speech, and that's why it is an existential issue.
That's why in the precise sense, it is a national security threat.
And it's funny that you mentioned sort of your misgivings in relation to Elon and connections with the CCP, which I fully understand and respect.
And it's funny because I have similar misgivings in relation to Elon's connections With our government.
With the globalist American empire, which unfortunately I think has become almost as evil, almost as corrupt, almost as censorious as the CCP itself.
And that's the theory I would look to.
steve bannon
But they're threatening him.
That's what the implication of Morning Joe today and having Sorkin on their business guy is the show that the empires... Remember, it's a combination of big media and big tech oligarchs, but also global corporations with the authoritarian administrative state to kind of manage this.
And they're telling Elon, hey, dude, we know you need us on SpaceX.
We know you need us on the batteries for Tesla.
You need us on all these different things.
That's all going to get cut off, right?
They're signing executive orders right now.
The pressure this guy's going to be under is enormous.
Is it not, Darren Beattie?
darren j beattie
Right.
Well, this is, this is all sort of predicted in our, in our classic piece.
And Elon really needs to take stock of what his leverage is and what the other side's leverage is.
And it's an interesting thing because, you know, as all sort of all big tech at the highest level in the United States is, effectively glorified IT support for the regime.
You don't reach a high big level of big tech if you aren't fundamentally intertwined with the government.
That's just the reality.
It's not even necessarily a knock on Elon.
It applies to all big tech.
And the thing is, is that he was allowed to become so big But actually, the leverage works in both directions now.
unidentified
Hang on for a second.
steve bannon
We're going to finish this thought right after the break.
He's right.
By the way, Pentagon just awarded massive contracts to Amazon and Google yesterday.
For what?
Wait for it.
IT support.
unidentified
This is why the defense bills are a trillion dollars.
steve bannon
Dr. Jeffrey Tucker on Mike Pence next.
unidentified
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So looking for a big representation of the Warren posse great way to end the year better way to start the year.
We're going to be firing off the football a lot of a lot of battles up here on Capitol Hill right now to make sure we don't Keep saying, I would love for President Trump to jump in here.
Maybe there's true social, some of those truths, somebody down there in the brain trust, underline, hint, hint, may engage him on, because they're trying to handcuff his second term right here with the debt ceiling fight, the amnesty fight, the omnibus, two trillion unfunded, the defense authorization, a trillion dollar defense bill.
Look, I'm as big a hawk as you can get.
I'm not a neocon, but I'm a hawk.
Particularly everything related to our existential threat, the Chinese Communist Party, who she's in...
Saudi, the guys we defend, we've been defending the royal family there since the 1950s or 60s, but particularly since the 1980s.
And they were quite helpful in bringing down the Soviet Union with President Reagan.
But they cut a deal with Xi.
The BRICS right now are trying to get a basket of currencies or some sort of basket that can get off of the dollar being the prime reserve currency.
And once that happens, your life changes.
Radically we become Argentina.
Okay, that's what we're trying to put so much emphasis and focus on our currency and on our dollar What it means to you in your personal life what it means in your community's life what it means in the nation's life So right now they're cutting a massive deal.
I think 35 agreements they've signed.
When they made Biden show up, you know, get an Uber, come over to some look like hotel, fist bump, you know, the prince for a global belly laugh about the Khashoggi situation.
And she comes and it's like an emperor showing up, like an emperor coming to the kingdom.
So, uh, massive implications for that.
Uh, Tirma is going to be on, uh, Brazil's on the edge.
I think we're seeing some movement there.
Tirma is going to be in the second hour.
Uh, we also got James O'Keefe and we got Jack Pasoba coming up.
Darren Beattie, how can people follow this story?
The Twitter thing, you're absolutely correct.
There's an apparatus that they've used for control.
Let's be honest.
They've used it for control.
It's coming apart.
And they're so fat, dumb, and happy.
The left media is so owned by the government, they're as lazy as any of these bureaucrats.
And that's why they're in panic mode.
Because they don't have the hustle, they don't have the hunger, they won't dive for the basketball, right?
That the conservative media will.
All these scrappy conservative sites, including Revolver, one of the best.
By the way, up on Drudge, they got the list of the traffic.
Cain over at, which is a one-man band essentially, over at Citizens Free Press.
243 million page views on Citizens Free Press.
Massive shout out to him and also to the Hoffs.
Did an incredible job.
Over 100 million, I think, for the Hoffs over at Gateway.
Darren, how do people get to you?
How do they get to you on social media?
What are your coordinates?
Because you're following this thing with perceptive analysis 24-7.
darren j beattie
Revolver.news, we've got a little roundup on the Twitter files at the top, and we've chronicled the story of this hideous Grinch who's trying to interfere with Revolver.
Speaking of all the headaches that you have to deal with if you try to make a business of irritating and exposing the FBI, it's not the best business model, to be honest, in terms of... Do you have a stalker?
steve bannon
You know, the reason I think you have a stalker, she's a female stalker?
unidentified
I guess.
steve bannon
you come on war room, because no offense, your Tucker stuff's nice, but you're a little too cleaned up for, you know, you come in at prime time and they, you know, they make you your, your hair's comb.
You got a coat on.
You come on, particularly, we haven't had you on at 10 o'clock a lot, but you come on, you look like an unmade bed, right?
I think that's part of your charm.
That's that's you exude it.
You exude unmade bedness and you've got it.
You've now got a stalker, right?
darren j beattie
No, it's the rugged look that's irresistible.
But the stalkers, it's unbelievable.
And it's this one lady who's Soros funded who's absolutely obsessed with me, absolutely obsessed with Revolver.
Every time we get an ad deal, she's on it and harassing the advertising companies like some kind of angry X sort of situation.
It's very creepy.
It's very weird.
And frankly, it's annoying.
And it's one of the many headaches that you just have to take on as part of your life.
Again, if you try to make a living attacking the FBI, exposing the regime, it's the one thing that you're not supposed to be able to do.
It's bad enough to be able to speak your mind, but to make a living speaking your mind and attacking the regime, that shouldn't be possible.
That shouldn't be allowed.
And the system Employs full-time sewer people, like this woman, as I call her, stalkers, to come and just make your life a little bit more difficult.
But it's ultimately not a big deal.
We're doing great.
And you can find us at revolver.news.
All the latest stuff.
We've got a big piece coming up in a couple days, so I'll talk more about that.
But in the meantime, Revolver.News, I'm on Twitter at Darren J. Beattie, and we are at Gitter, which is the most technologically sophisticated of the social media platforms, at Revolver News.
steve bannon
No doubt.
Okay.
Thanks, Darren.
unidentified
Yep.
steve bannon
Look forward to having you back.
Always great.
Another site I go to all the time is Brownstone.
It's because of Dr. Jeffrey Tucker.
He joins us now.
We've got Natalie Winters also.
Dr. Tucker, you've actually done something.
I tell people, read these books.
There's so many buried leads in them, right?
And these guys hang themselves on their books because they can't help Let's start to brag.
Tell me about Judas Pence, his book, and what he reveals about his as being head.
People kind of forget, memory hold this.
He was head of the task force for President Trump.
He was actually running all things related to COVID.
Was he not, Dr. Jeffrey Tucker?
jeffrey tucker
That is precisely what he did.
And he brags about it in his book.
And by the way, I didn't want to read this book.
I mean, I didn't want to download it, right?
Putting it off for weeks.
I mean, just insufferable.
Just look at the name of it.
What's the name of it?
Something like, God Loves Me or something.
Anyway, just filial pietism just oozing out of the entire treatise.
So it's unbearable.
And then I think he hired an editor to sprinkle the thing with Bible verses.
unidentified
You just never know.
jeffrey tucker
Anyway, it's an abuse of the faith, as far as I'm concerned.
But anyway, he does actually reveal his role.
I should say confirmed his role, because it's been confirmed in Birx's book, and the Washpole book, and Kushner's book, and everything else.
Yes, he was the head of the coronavirus task force.
He's the one who brought in Birx He's the one who provided Fauci cover, and he praises Fauci to the skies in this book.
Oh, what a great expert.
He was such a great man.
Just a great team player.
Just, you know, the perfect guy.
And then he talks about how he's the one who got the ventilators that, you know, that killed your grandfather.
And he's the one that arranged for all the masks to be bought from China.
And he's the one who did this and this.
And then he made the peace between Governor Whitmer And Trump, and blessed are the peacemakers, he adds.
So yeah, he's blessed, right, for that.
And then, you know, at some point in this narrative, Trump realizes that he's being trolled and tricked by probably operatives from the National Security Council, the National Security State, and gets fed up with it, right?
He's done with the controls, ready to open up the country.
And Pence in this book reveals that it was he Who sent Redfield and Burks on this nationwide tour of governors to persuade them to keep the schools closed, to force their citizens in.
unidentified
Whoa!
steve bannon
Hang on.
unidentified
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
steve bannon
Slow down.
Because I have not read Judas Pence's book.
Um, he actually says that he's the one that, that sent these guys out to kind of circumvent Trump's, uh, hey, we've had enough of this.
jeffrey tucker
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
jeffrey tucker
And circumvent is exactly right.
I mean, they, they were active acting as a kind of a shadow government and letting, you know, and they treated Trump like a marionette, you know, get, get out there, Mr. Dancing bear and appeal to your, to appeal to your base.
We're busy doing the work of the administrative state here.
And so when Trump got wise to the whole thing, he basically kicked him out of the Oval Office.
They went to Pence and said, we really need to go on a nationwide tour.
Don't you think?
He said, yeah, you're doing the work of a good public service in the interest of public health.
Get out there and I'll give you cover.
And he says this in his book.
By the way, he also says that it wasn't just about public health.
It was about national security, which I think is very interesting.
Very interesting admission here.
But anyway, it was Pence that gave Birx, in particular, cover to run around all the states.
Kristi Noem told her to take a hike, you know, get out of, we don't want you in South Dakota.
But a lot of governors were stupid enough to allow her to come in and enter into their offices.
And she said, here's my model.
You really need to keep the schools closed and keep those businesses closed.
We really need more social distancing.
And put everybody in masks.
And they even got to, you know, a number of states, including Texas, right?
So that was a real tragedy.
It was Birx that was responsible for it.
And Pence, who gave Birx cover and gave her the green light to go around the country doing this.
And Birx says this in her book, right?
Which I found outrageous.
She was all upset and, you know, you know, facing this model and, you know, situation because Trump wouldn't talk to her anymore.
And so she went to Pence and said, what am I going to do?
What am I going to do?
Should I quit?
And he said, no, you must continue to do the work of the nation and send her on this tour of the states.
So he says that in the book.
And so, yeah, he was the guy who basically, I would argue, tanked the entire Trump administration and wrecked the country by being this sort of goody two-shoes on camera, you know, and all the great president Trump this, great president Trump that, which he said every day for the National Media on these press conferences.
In private, he was on Team Fauci and Team Burks and the entire national security state.
He was the guy.
Maybe they used him, but he was a willing participant.
And in his book, he brags about it, that everything they did was right.
steve bannon
The 15 days of Flatten the Curve, because people didn't have a lot of information then, does he ever talk about the evidence that came after the 15 days?
Because remember, then they extended it off of data.
They had new models.
Does he ever talk about his looking at analytics, looking at data, looking at evidence?
Because he was head of the task force.
He would weigh and measure with Fauci what the evidence said.
Does anything in the book talk about that, as you remember?
jeffrey tucker
In some sense, you can't believe a word of this book, but he does say that it was he who presented the data to the coronavirus task force, and he claims that he walked in with the data.
steve bannon
He presented the data.
jeffrey tucker
That's what he claims.
Yeah, he claims that he was this master of data and came in and presented to the coronavirus task force.
steve bannon
Okay, hold on.
We're gonna go to break.
I want you to hold.
I want a dramatic pause here so we can hold the audience through.
Short commercial break.
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Mike Pence does this to himself.
This is not anybody—this is—so, this is the key point.
From the because it was very uncertain at the time from the 15 days lockdown, and that was to stop death so that you didn't overwhelm the ICU units.
Remember, that was ICU bed capacity, all those terms and concepts.
But the extension of that is really when this thing started to spin a little bit out of control by the administrative state.
Walk me through that.
How did they convince, is there any scene in there where they try to convince President Trump to extend the 14 days to flatten the curve?
He did the 15 days to flatten the curve.
How did that, how does Pence describe the extension of that?
Because that's one of the key points in this entire, you know, the evolution of this issue, sir.
jeffrey tucker
I would say a turning point in the history of civilization, actually.
Right, so 15 days.
Trump is fed up at this point.
He's like, look, we can't just, you know, make the cure worse than the disease.
You know, everything's falling apart.
What are we going to do?
Now, keep in mind, Steve, Birx never had any intention of leaving it at two weeks.
She says this in her book, that that was always a ruse.
So now they had to convince him to go further for another 30 days.
So they had this little confab, right?
So it's Fauci and Redfield and Birx and Pence is there.
And so Burke shows this chart.
She's like, well, here are two lines that come from our models.
The first one is if we open up, there will be 2.2 million dead people by the end of the year.
And that's what happens if you let people open businesses and be free.
On the other hand, if you keep these mitigation strategies alive and keep everything closed down for another 30 days, another 30 days is all we're asking for.
Then the death line goes way down.
So Pence looks at this and goes, brr, that's a really, very interesting piece of science you've presented to us today, Dr. Birx.
It seems to me we have to keep the country locked down.
And Trump is like, jeez, I'm just surrounded by these people.
What's he going to do?
Right?
Everybody around him, Kushner, his vice president, Birx, Fauci, all these people, keep the country locked down.
So he goes, yeah, all right.
So that was it!
steve bannon
But this is where, by the way, this is where you know it because they all wrote books.
And you can all cross-reference the book about this scene, correct?
That's right.
You've done it, so we don't have to.
By the way, I don't want anybody in this audience to read this book.
Somehow, we will summarize.
I mean, not read it.
We will summarize.
I don't want you to buy it, okay?
No more money to Judas Pence, because that's what his publisher wants.
That's why I covered so much of it.
unidentified
My review did cover so many parts, so you don't have to buy it.
steve bannon
This is how important this piece is.
I think it's the lead story.
It was lead story earlier today on Rooker Politics and those guys are probably the best curators out there of important topics.
How did they get to Brownstone?
Because the work you're doing, you did the national security piece the other day.
What you guys are doing is incredible.
How do people get to the site and what are your coordinates on social media?
jeffrey tucker
Yeah, brownstone.org.
We're also brownstoneinst on Twitter and Gitter.
And you should sign up for the emails because that's one way we can really contact you.
We only send one a week.
My own personal Twitter account is Jeffrey A. Tucker.
And then also, of course, I'm on Gitter.
But yes, please stay in touch.
I mean, we're just at the beginning of discovering the fullness of the junta that sees control of the country.
And we're just really beginning.
We're continuing the investigations.
We've got a lot more to do, though.
steve bannon
Oh, no, no.
We're at the top of the first thing of this.
Dr. Jeffrey Tucker, thank you.
Thank you for the book review.
jeffrey tucker
Thank you, Steve, for having me.
steve bannon
Tucker, Reddit.
Tucker, Reddit.
Jeffrey, Tucker, Reddit, so you don't have to.
Now, all that being said...
We bring in Natalie Winters, the leading assassin at the War Room.
Excuse me, I shouldn't say that.
They get all upset.
Her official, formal title is Executive Editor.
Fauci's angry with you, Natalie, and angry with War Room.
Is he not, ma'am?
unidentified
I know.
natalie winters
Well, according to Mr. Science, so we have to trust everything he says, you and I are low-life trolls.
That's a direct quote.
And we're also cowards.
Because we dared to speak out not just against his horrible approach to COVID-19, but specifically have gone after the members of his family, not only for their clearly partisan activities.
Yesterday, I believe it was two days ago, we exposed how his daughter was working and collaborating with this far-left progressive organization to promote COVID-19 vaccines.
And then, of course, the wife is up at the National Institutes of Health.
Running really their kind of ethical overview, oversight operations.
She's written a lot of papers urging for children to get the COVID-19 vaccine.
Fauci and her have co-authored papers arguing for less rigorous testing standards in the third world.
And she's also authored papers saying that it's actually okay for employers to embarrass and pressure their employees into getting the COVID-19 vaccine.
So I think these people like Fauci are so used to the mainstream media, not just giving them softball treatment on what they've done, but I don't think anyone over at MSNBC, CNN, NBC apparently has access to the internet because it's just a quick lookup of any of these people's family members to see what they're doing and how they're really aiding and abetting the agenda of Anthony Fauci.
steve bannon
Fauci, you haven't seen anything yet.
This is all just preliminaries.
These are all love taps.
These are all love taps.
And Natalie's just showing you she's interested, right?
Wait till she rolls her sleeves up.
Because the daughter and the wife are part of the problem, too.
The daughter's over at Twitter.
You know she's suppressing stuff like crazy, right?
Doing the...
You know, putting up all the good information they've got and lies they've got on the vaccine and putting down anything that's real information or data about why you shouldn't be jabbing babies that are six months old.
And she's part of the problem, as is the wife.
Go ahead, ma'am.
natalie winters
There's no remorse, I think, from these people.
And I think the perfect example of this, not just as this whole string of books that's coming out from the Judas Puns types and the Fauci types, but while Anthony Fauci was supposedly advising Donald Trump, which now we learn advising is code for forcing the country into lockdowns, the wife was donating to Joe Biden.
It's in your face and they're okay with it.
steve bannon
Yeah, okay.
Natalie, hang on for a second, okay?
Short break.
We've got Joe Reek from My Patriot.
We've got James O'Keefe from Veritas.
Jack Posovic from Human Events Daily.
And we've got, from the Christian Post, Brandon Showalter.
Joe Allen, Matthew Tierman.
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