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Dec. 6, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2352: Playmakers Make Plays; The Fight For RNC Chair
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on this, people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big line?
unidentified
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
Warren, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
tucker carlson
Republicans didn't do as well in the midterms as expected, and so it's fair to ask, well, whose fault is that?
And a lot of people are asking that.
You may have seen reports on a potential challenge to the current leadership of the Republican National Committee, and those reports suggest Well, no one would know better than Harmeet Dhillon herself, chairman of the Republican National Lawyers Association, who joins us now.
Harmeet, thanks so much for coming on.
Is it true that you plan to run for RNC chair?
unidentified
Well, Tucker, I'm going to announce tonight that actually I am going to run for RNC chair.
And the reason is that, you know, to play off of a famous catchphrase, Republicans are tired of losing.
And I think that we really need to radically reshape our leadership in order to win.
And we can't keep running elections like we did in the 90s and the 2000s.
And we really have to modernize to compete with the Democrats.
Dollar for dollar in the ways they fundraise, the way they deliver their ballots to the ballot boxes.
Our messaging needs to be fresh and positive and not just reactive to news cycles and what the Democrats are doing.
And I think that the party needs to realize that the party has become a populist party.
The base of the party demands populist messages that speak to them and not Chamber of Commerce messages, not Neocon messages, not warmonger messages.
And I'm afraid that the base of our party is not getting what it needs from our leadership.
And so after three successive rounds of really disappointing results, Tucker, I'm a member of the RNC and no other member is stepping up to challenge leadership.
And our current leadership has never been challenged for the chair job.
And I think that Challenge and competition is very good.
And so I'm hoping to gain the support of grassroots Americans who do not like the direction of the party and its leadership.
They need to contact the 168 members of the RNC in their states and territories and tell them that they too want change.
And I think that change is popular among the base.
I hear from thousands of Americans on a weekly basis about that.
They want to see us fighting.
Tucker, you know as well as anybody else that I'm a fighter.
Yes, you are!
Every waking hour of the day, and that's what we need right now.
And so, that's me.
I'm offering to take a giant, you know, step back from my law firm and my non-profit to do this.
It's a big sacrifice, but I think it's important for our country that I love so much as a first-generation immigrant.
tucker carlson
I love it.
I love it.
I can vouch for your toughness.
It's absolutely real and much needed.
Godspeed.
Harmony Telling.
We're rooting for you.
Thank you.
unidentified
Thank you.
Just talking and my coaches kept saying like, man, it's too much time on the clock.
They left too much time on the clock for us.
And especially with TB as our quarterback.
And next thing you know, obviously guys was making huge plays.
Next thing you know, we got in the red zone, had a couple of plays, had a chance.
We got penalties and next thing you know, I heard like 2-9.
They was asking for me because obviously Lenny was in the game at that time.
And then I just remember TB calling the play.
And when I heard in the huddle, I just knew what route I had to run and I ran my route was in my spot.
He just threw me the ball and I made sure I was getting in there.
steve bannon
Appreciate it.
Okay, welcome.
It's Tuesday, 6 December in the Year of the Lord 2022.
We combine those two because they're about the same point.
Of course, the great Tucker Carlson on his show last night, Harmeet Dhillon, President Trump's lawyer, Carrie Lake's lawyer, announced she's running to be the chairman of the RNC.
The reason we connected to the end, if people didn't see Monday Night Football last night, I think in the 23 year career of Tom Brady.
And Tom Brady...
In a nation that has produced great athletes, is the greatest athlete of them all.
Plays the hardest position in any sport worldwide, and he's been orders of magnitude greater.
In that storied career last night, with, what, three or four minutes left, he led, I think, the greatest comeback outside the Super Bowl comeback.
But in his 23-year career, a touchdown pass, I think, with three seconds left, first time it's ever happened in his 23 years, the greatest of all time.
The point.
Playmakers make plays.
Right?
We used to always say this in 16 with President Trump.
Playmakers make plays.
That is about human agency.
When divine providence and the Holy Spirit work through the world, it's through a human instrument.
It's through human agency.
This is what we keep talking.
Use your agency.
Playmakers make plays.
What you saw last night on Monday Night Football has universal Applications.
That young man at the end was the rookie that caught an incredible touchdown pass at the end with three seconds left.
Playmakers and they knew their duty.
They knew exactly what they had to do, and they didn't panic.
Playmakers make plays.
Harmeet Dhillon, a fighter who has been Trump and Kerry Lake's lawyer, threw a hat in the ring last night.
A couple things.
Playmakers make plays.
You've always been known as a playmaker.
Talk to me about... You talk about populism.
You've got a big law practice.
You run also a couple of not-for-profits, I think.
You know, I would say right now, Harmeet, knowing you, you're kind of living your best life.
Why would you do this, ma'am?
unidentified
Well, thank you for having me, Steve, and you're absolutely right.
I got my men's full.
You know, I consider my political obligations at the RNC to be another job, and then I have a family life, so that's kind of four jobs that I have.
And, however, you know, practicing law and going to the courts and continuing to have, you know, a series of judges that President Biden's going to be flooding the federal courts with it now for the next two years.
It really doesn't matter, all of that work, if we're living in an oppressive society, if we're living in a society where even my Republican representatives are not representing me and are not hearing me.
And, you know, frankly, I'm a member of the 168 and I feel that I'm not being heard.
The people I represent, the people I hear from, the people suffering in California, they're not being heard by the party.
I see that our leaders in Washington are focusing on omnibus resolutions and on money in Ukraine.
People are talking about amnesty.
People are talking about the Federal Marriage Act.
Those are not the burning issues that the base of our party are concerned about.
And they're not, frankly, hot issues in the country at this point.
They're sort of issues that matter to a small number of people over an issue that's really kind of been resolved in the courts for now.
That's frustrating to me and that's been the way for the last six years and frankly even for the last several years before that at the RNC.
So I'm looking at two more years of that and I'm thinking how can we expect different results in elections in 2024 than we have in the last three disappointing election cycles if we have the same leadership that seems to me to be, you know, while well-meaning, not responsive to what the base needs and what our country needs.
steve bannon
Let's talk about, first of all, everything you mentioned on the lame duck is not only not the priorities, they're the anti-priorities.
I mean, I've been blowing people up all day on Getter.
About how they're trying to jam this down, and we better see some people step up.
And this is the collaboration of senators.
But Harmeet, Ronna McDaniel, let me make her case, because here's what she says.
She says, look, I've created the greatest voter registration drive in history and changed many states and registered more people under her watch than anybody.
She's created a massive ground game to get out the vote, which hopefully we'll see that.
We're going to have John Fredericks on next from Georgia to see that manifest itself.
Number three, she's led a voter integrity, election integrity, anti-cheating apparatus.
Those are the three-legged stools of her time at the RNC.
What of that do you have a problem?
Has she not delivered on that?
You don't believe it or are those not the right priorities?
unidentified
OK, those are good priorities, but I would describe that as a good start.
A little too late.
And so for one thing, voter registration is something that the parties do in the states as well.
So I like to see that it's increased overall in the country, but the RNC is one of many organizations doing it.
I know this because I have registered voters outside of the ring right here in San Francisco.
RNC can't take credit for that.
And when I've run for office twice here, I've registered voters during that process.
So we do it throughout the states.
Folks like Scott Pressler.
Sort of the Johnny Appleseed voter registration in our country, just doing it by himself as a citizen.
He has registered not only thousands of voters, but also done thousands of trainings and help people do that.
So there are many people who do it.
We can't just have one organization take credit for that.
But I do think that's a support priority.
It's a basic priority of the party.
And certainly if I were the chair, I would obviously continue doing that.
I've seen it done at the very basic level at the county level.
With respect to ground game, It is great that the RNC has foreign staff on the ground in Georgia.
Again, that is what a party should be doing.
That is sort of the basic role.
The state party should be doing it, and Republican county parties need to be strongly doing it as well.
The RNC's job is not to, you know, necessarily be a substitute for what local, organized, grassroots politics should be doing, but those organs of our, sort of, our capillaries have atrophied, if you will, for want of A proper care and feeding by state parties, by, you know, sort of training at the federal level.
And then finally, election integrity is something that I've been beating the drum about.
I'm a, as you know, election integrity lawyer, fierce lawyer.
I've been beating the drum about it since I arrived at the RNC in 2017.
Had many meetings.
In fact, I chair a committee at the RNC for a year after our disappointing 2018 losses and produced a detailed roadmap of what we should do in 2020 to succeed and be the president right now, I believe, if we had implemented that, but we didn't.
And, you know, so we hear a lot of different reasons for that.
Sometimes they hear, well, RNC doesn't have the funding to do that, or, you know, we have other priorities, or that's really the job of the campaign to do that, whatever.
It didn't get done.
Okay.
And so I think We did wake up and smell the coffee after losing in 2020.
And to her credit, Rana did spend a lot more in the last election cycle on election integrity.
In fact, my law firm was hired finally to do some of that work in a few other law firms.
You know, again, we're playing catch up with the Democrats who've been doing it, not just through the Democratic National Committee, by the way.
This is an important point I didn't get to on the show.
We're not competing with the Democrats.
And so, you know, when you compare RNC fundraising with DNC fundraising, we do better.
But when you compare RNC fundraising and our RNC and Republican ecosystem fundraising to all of the dark money slush funds the Democrats have, all of the nonprofits that they use for all of these functions, including the Zuckerberg's non-profit with $400 million.
They dwarf us by something like 10 to 1.
We're not getting that.
We're pretending like we're keeping up with them.
We're not keeping up with them.
We have to say that.
We have to call it out for what it is.
You cannot begin to fix the problem until you diagnose it.
steve bannon
And, you know, to be honest with you, when I hear that, oh, we did such a great job in the 2022 midterms, we fired Nancy Pelosi, you know, don't But here, I'm not saying it's a logical inconsistency, but you said last night on Tucker, you want to instill this with populist parties and not chamber of commerce parties, correct?
unidentified
Right.
That's right.
steve bannon
What do you mean by that?
So what do you mean by that?
unidentified
Well, what I mean is sometimes I hear, you know, we have guys serving in Congress who have been there for decades.
And I'm afraid to be frank, a lot of them are captive of two different industries that get them elected.
And so that's what they talk about.
They carry bills on, you know, whatever esoteric issue that has to do with spending more federal money.
And they don't really talk about empowering Americans, cutting regulations.
They don't talk about America first priorities.
I don't see anybody really prioritizing or really Like you say, playmaking over the border, you know, really sort of taking that to the Democrats.
I don't see any innovative thinking on these issues.
For years as a trial lawyer, I have been jumping up and down and a civil rights lawyer talking about, for example, big tech censorship issues.
That's a populist issue.
When I talk to some of these people, even the Freedom Caucus people, I meet at some of these events, they start trotting out these tired talking points about Oh, you know, we don't want the federal government, you know, regulating these issues.
I think it's a binary thing.
I think there's no other solution between federal government regulation and censorship.
steve bannon
Harmit, could you just hang on for a second?
I want to hold you just for a second.
We've got Jack Pasobica on this side, John Ferguson, Georgia, but I want to finish our conversation with Harmeet Dhillon.
A very tough litigator who is President Trump and Kerry Lake's lawyer, one of their lawyers, one of their lead lawyers.
She's now thrown her hat in the ring on Tucker Carlson last night to run for the chairmanship of the RNC with populist policies, not chamber of commerce policies, next in the War Room.
unidentified
Welcome back to Wyrmwood.
steve bannon
We've got Harmeet Dhillon.
She's throwing her hat in the ring.
Then there were three.
You've got Mike Lindell, who's not a member of the Republican Party, I guess technically the RNC.
He's running.
I guess an outsider can run.
So he's running.
Of course, Ronald McDaniel is running to be re-elected.
And now Harmeet Dhillon is throwing a hat in the ring.
Look, look, here's the – the two parties are quite different.
The Democrats essentially years ago threw the consultants out by and large.
They're still there obviously, but the RNC is historically – the Republican Party is historically run by consultants, right?
You have a – when you just said the 10 to 1, and this is the heart of the matter.
The DNC doesn't raise all that much money.
Most of it comes from these outside groups, the sources and others.
And it does.
When you look in aggregate, they do outspend us 10 to 1.
But here's the reason.
They're donors.
They're far left.
Secular humanists, agnostic, atheistic donors are totally lined up with their policies.
They line up perfectly, or as perfectly as one can get.
That's why their progressives never really give them much trouble when it comes to it.
They pat them on the head and say, fine.
This is why Bernie Sanders, when he runs against Hillary Clinton, it's a pillow fight.
It's all performative.
It's just performative.
But their donors totally line up and they have tremendous discipline because the money talks and they listen.
The Republican apparatus is totally different and what you're saying is that, hey, I'm running on populist ideas.
I need to, I'm going to grow this space.
I'm bringing the populist.
This is a workers party.
This is a populist party.
Note to self, Harmeet, and you know who these guys are, 90% of the big donors.
Don't buy into that.
10% do.
You have some true heroes out there.
I'll throw Dick Uline, and there's a couple others that are true heroes, that truly back MAGA, America First, the policies of populism.
Most do not.
And don't you think?
Tell me your plan.
Is your plan to make this a populist and not Chamber of Commerce?
They're going to tell you, hey, Harmeet, we love you.
You're a great litigator.
You're a tremendous lawyer, and Tucker's right, you are a fighter.
But we like Chamber of Commerce values.
We like Chamber of Commerce policies.
We don't like Harmeet Dhillon, Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, and the rest of these crazy populists.
We're not crazy about your policies.
Harmeet Dhillon.
unidentified
You raise some good points.
I don't have all the answers, but what I know is that donors have limited choices as well.
If their choice is secular humanism and, frankly, troping into Marxism, which is what the left is pushing down our throats, destroying our economy, destroying their ability to continue to create generational wealth, and then the other pole is populism, I think we could be moving in that direction.
I think they could realize that The only two beings in town in our current system are Democrats and Republicans, and so they already own their Republican congressmen and senators who are going to continue to push the Chamber of Commerce reasoning and theories for some period of years.
But we have to understand that the fresh blood and the fresh voter base in here needs to be heard and represented as well.
And so I do think that we can meld those together into a popular party.
Donald Trump was able to do that, and Donald Trump was able to get elected.
And we have to understand as well that Republicans, just to get elected, as opposed to the rhetoric that we put out there, we have to appeal at a certain level to independence in the swing states.
And so, again, that is where the populist messaging is very important.
And, you know, we have a lot of people in the middle who want to hear why they're still persuadable.
The hard left is not persuadable.
So, you know, I think that we have to just try some different things here.
steve bannon
You said something on Tucker that was brilliant and refreshing, if I understood it correctly.
You wanted...
The people, I think there's 168 delegates, three from each state, 150, and then some from territories and some others, but basically three from each state.
You wanted, and I believe you're one of those representatives of California.
unidentified
I am.
steve bannon
You wanted those, before people chose sides or because Ronna said I got a hundred and other people said she doesn't have a hundred and it's all this kind of scuttlebutt, but what you're, you wanted those people to go back and listen to the people at the precinct level And to see what they wanted to do.
I just want to make sure I heard that correctly.
unidentified
That's exactly right.
steve bannon
It's quite different.
Because what I keep hearing about the RNC is people go to these meetings and they they're cutting deals and it's all about the state party chairman and deals are being cut.
But you said you wanted to go back to the precinct and see what the precinct wants to do.
Am I correct in that?
unidentified
So let me break it down for you, Steve.
So the committee man and committee woman, those are two of the three in each state.
We're elected for four year terms and basically are, you know, I don't know, it's like some to cater or something.
We were sort of born, and then we have one function, which is to participate in the national convention every four years.
But in between, you can do nothing, like many of my colleagues do, or you can do a lot, like some of our colleagues do.
So the state party chairman is a role that turns over, on average, every 18 months in parties.
It's a really hard job.
People get burnt out.
But all of us are elected by either the delegates, or you say the precinct committee men, each state is different.
In our states, in California, I'm elected by about 1500 delegates of the state party.
They're like the hardcore activists in the 58 counties in California.
I hear from those people and I know what they're saying.
If I were to take a poll, should we continue the RNC leadership or should we change it?
Not should we change it to harm me, but should we change it?
It's going to be 95%.
Please change it.
And if I had done that in 2020, it would have been 95%.
Please change it.
It isn't working.
Okay.
And so I think that if my members of the RNC, instead of cutting deals with the chair about funds transfers, or I'll pay your legal bills that I wasn't going to pay two weeks ago, or I'll give you the chairmanship of this committee at the convention, or I'll give you the vice chairmanship of this committee.
Like in other words, if they were to discard their self-interest or frankly transfers of donor money to buy a national chairmanship, which I think is inappropriate.
And they heard from what their voters said.
The polls online, what I'm hearing is what other people are hearing.
The ones who are responsive to their base are telling me that.
They're telling me that under no uncertain terms are they going to be allowed to survive in their state parties if they perpetuate the failure machine that is facing us as our choice right now.
I don't want to put all the blame in one direction, but it's all of the leadership in the party.
There's politically elected leaders, And there's the Rana and, you know, Rana and her team.
And there's a fact of change and there's a perception of change.
I think the base needs to see both.
We need to see the fact of change.
We need to see a perception that they're being heard and we are understanding that we have to have some turnover and some fresh ideas, some innovation, and frankly, some better messaging and some better performance.
And so people aren't doing that right now, some of them, or some of the ones I'm talking to.
Some of them are persuadable.
And so you're correct.
Ron is claiming that she has the votes sewn up.
That's not what I and other candidates are hearing when we actually call through and talk to people.
People know that if they have to be held accountable for a fourth term for the current leadership, that they may have political price to pay back in their states.
And that's how it should be.
steve bannon
Harmeet, how do people follow you?
Now your hat's in the ring.
Where do they go to find out more about you?
You're first-generation American.
How do people find out more about you, your family, everything, and where they follow you on social media?
unidentified
Social media, I'm on the same handle on Instagram and Twitter.
It's at P-N-J-A-B-A-N.
And I tweet myself.
I write my own tweets.
And I tweet several times a day, ideas and thoughts.
And, you know, I'm also a frequent guest on various conservative media.
And people can reach me at my law firm.
I think I got hundreds of messages last night.
That's Harmeet at DylanLaw.com.
They were overwhelmingly saying, thank you for stepping up.
Competition is important.
We need to see change.
How can I help?
The first thing that people can do to help is figure out who are the three members of the RNC in their state.
State Chairman, RNC National Committee Man, RNC National Committee Woman.
That's available on the state party website, typically over the six territories.
And contact them.
They represent you.
It's their duty to hear what you have to say about it.
And if they hear from enough people, they may be shaken from their commitment to do a self-interested deal to perpetuate the same leadership that has been working for the people in their state.
steve bannon
Harmeet Dhillon, thank you very much.
Honored to have you on here, ma'am.
unidentified
It's my pleasure.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Well, Steve, look, what can I say?
for President Trump and Kerry Lake.
I want to go to Pasovic.
I got Pasovic.
Hey, Pasovic, you and I talk about this a lot.
Playmakers make plays.
Talk to me about Harmeet Dhillon and your assessment of the RNC right now, sir.
unidentified
Well, Steve, look, what can I say?
jack posobiec
Harmeet Dhillon presents a very strong case for RNC chair.
And for folks out there looking across the race and saying, well, there's other people getting in, you know, there's Lindell, Zeldin's talking about getting in.
One of the things that I like to look at when it comes to stuff like this is, you know, these players and these playmakers is that who is the best tool for a specific job?
And that doesn't necessarily mean to say that, you know, someone is better or worse than Harmeet or something like this, but The idea being that Lee Zeldin, he was going to be the governor of New York.
It seems like obviously there should be a very strong role for him in either the party or some elected office going towards an elected office.
That's something we'd look for.
For Mike Lindell, of course, everybody knows I'm one of the biggest supporters of Mike out there.
You know, I think we need him on the front lines fighting the various different fights that he's fighting with Harmeet.
She's been in the system.
She knows what the problems are and have her coming out.
Someone who, by the way, worked very closely with Ronna McDaniel in the past is actually a searing indictment of the record, right?
And we're talking about the record.
I want to get personality out of this.
We're talking about the record of Ronna McDaniel, and it simply comes to a point where it's time to say, You need to let people go, look, Steve, at the RNC, we need a wartime consigliere.
We need the wartime consigliere because now is not the time for the summer soldiers and the sunshine patriots.
We need a wartime consigliere.
That's who I want in there.
I want someone who's tough as nails.
I want someone who understands the system, who understands where the problems are with the system and knows how to fight this from the inside out, because that Administration at the RNC right now, it needs to be gutted.
I would, I would see, I would see a complete staff turnover.
Honestly, I would see it go through line by line, every employee, every staff member, every, uh, every vendor that they have.
You need to absolutely overturn this thing because.
The way we run elections has fundamentally changed and we now need people who understand that in there.
We need to be in the ballot business.
Number one.
And number two, we need to be in the voter integrity business.
And Harmeet Dhillon has been there from day one.
steve bannon
Okay, a short commercial break.
I've got Fredericks in Georgia, Cortez is going to join Jack, but so have I. The White House has been found.
That's a term from West Point.
It's been found.
Complete leaking of oil about the Hunter Biden situation.
on next okay let's go to georgia Are we going to pull out a Tampa Bay-type comeback with Hershel Walker?
Is Maga going to step up?
We need Maga to step up, but is Maga going to step up John Fredericks?
Because he's going around the state with Lindsey Graham and he has his closing thing with Nikki Haley.
So Maga's going to have to do this on their own, right?
So what's going to happen, John Fredericks?
john fredericks
Well, this is a mega heavy lift.
It's all about now getting out the vote on Tuesday, who we close with, Nikki Haley, Ronna McDaniel, all the rhinos there.
You know, doesn't matter.
We got only today and now we've got about nine hours remaining.
Let me give you the numbers and let me give you some good news, Steve, because there is good news here.
Basically, as I've been reporting going into the game day, Warnock was ahead by 225 on Thursday.
We had a great Friday.
The numbers kept getting better as they came in this weekend.
We cut that down about $1.75 going into today.
We need 1 million voters to turn out today in Georgia.
If they do that, If you look at the trend in the averages, Walker should get 58% of that, which is going to mean 580,000 votes for Walker and 42% or 420 for Warnock.
That's 160,000 vote difference.
That closes the gap to about 10 or 15,000.
So Walker's going to be right there, but we need to get these votes out.
Now, let me tell you where we are right now as of 10 a.m.
and we still have nine hours of polling open.
They don't close tonight until 7 p.m.
So we got nine more hours as of 10 a.m.
400,000 voters have turned out in Georgia.
Record numbers shattering all expectations.
Right now if you look at trend through 10 a.m.
We're going to go over a million.
It's going to be 1 million to 1.25 Million.
If we get to 1-1, 1-2, Herschel Walker is going to be the next senator from Georgia.
Now, where are these votes coming from?
MAGA country.
We're up here.
We spent 10 days here in the bus store in the 9th district, in the 14th, where we are now, in North Georgia.
Where are we?
Clarksville.
Tonight we'll be doing our show 6 p.m.
We'll have you on that.
That'll be at 6 p.m.
That'll be in North Georgia.
Up by the border in Dawsonville.
But that's where the votes are.
We're turning out in major numbers in red areas.
MAGA is doing this by themselves.
They don't care about the consultants.
They don't care who he closed with.
They don't care about any of that stuff.
MAGA's turning out because they want to win, and they know that at the end of the day, Walker's going to vote MAGA about 100% of the time.
Warnock's going to vote with the Communists.
That's what's driving this, Steve.
Plus, we need a win.
So right now, as of 10 a.m., we're in really, really great shape.
And I think if this trend continues, you're really going to see a tremendous—a come-from-behind victory.
I have to say, how is this happening?
from behind victory from Walker, all on the strength of Trump and MAGA voters who have had enough.
This time they're turning out.
But I have to say, how is this happening?
You know, the last four days I've been stunned.
Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday at the coordinated ground game in Georgia on our I've never seen this before, Stephen.
I've done these bus tours, as you know, a long time.
I've never seen this.
You've had the Faith and Freedom Organization, led by Ralph Reed, with their issues.
I mean, they have gone out and knocked on virtually a million doors.
They have a whole army here.
We've got people coming in from out of state.
We've got that.
We've got Jenny Beth Martin's organization who's done yeoman's job here, which is a Tea Party Patriots.
They're getting people out.
Then we've got the Georgia GOP, which is real under David Schaefer.
He's got an op going.
And then I have to give credit where it's due.
McConnell paid for the whole Brian Kemp ground op, the database.
He paid millions of dollars for that.
That's working.
So we have all these disparate groups now working together towards a common cause, which is get these votes out today for Hershel Walker.
So far, 400,000.
It's working.
steve bannon
Yeah, Jenny Beth and Ralph are both Georgians, so that's a big deal.
And MTG's been up in the 14th.
We've been all over trying to get Magga out.
Look, it's going to be tremendous.
Herschel didn't exactly... He's Magga, but he was going around with the Nikki Haley's and the...
We'll check back in.
and the Lindsey Graham's, but you're absolutely correct.
If the ground game is there and give the devil his due, Kemp's ground game clearly is state of the art because of the crushing blow he delivered on Stacey Abrams, who was an eight, nine, 10 point victory.
Okay, we'll check back in.
As we've said, everybody in Georgia, we need this.
The 50-50 power sharing is orders of magnitude different than if they're 51-49.
It just is.
Not just that.
You're gonna jam up Mansion.
Right?
Big League.
So, and Cinema and Tester.
So this is a huge deal.
This will change the dynamic everywhere.
And they've kind of... Here's the great news.
The national media has written Herschel Walker off John Fredericks.
They said this is a lost cause.
They're hammering the guy every day.
So this will be a come from behind like...
Tampa Bay last night.
How'd you do on that bet on your side hustle, John Fredericks?
How'd you do last night?
john fredericks
No good.
I bet I did have the winner.
I did pick Tampa Bay to win, but I lost money because I laid three Tampa Bay minus three one by one.
So money went out of my account, not in.
So the win doesn't matter, right?
It's a loser.
You gotta get winners, Steve.
It's all about winners, like tonight.
steve bannon
Don't forget, 10-15.
john fredericks
Tune in to the fake news.
Tune in to the fake news, because I gotta do my imitation, Steve.
10-15, all the fake news.
They're all gonna be crying, right, when their guy goes down in flames.
We're gonna pull this one out, Steve.
steve bannon
We're gonna have you back on at 5 o'clock.
John's got the bus.
He's up in northern Georgia, marching through Georgia, getting votes, getting MAGA to turn out.
John Fredericks, thank you very much.
Appreciate it.
john fredericks
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
I have Cortez and Posobiec.
So Cortez, I asked Posobiec, playmakers make plays, right?
Are we going to make a play in Georgia with Herschel?
And number two, give me your first thoughts on Harmeet Dhillon in this RNC situation.
steve cortes
Listen, first, Herschel Walker is absolutely a winner who has earned the support of Georgians and I believe will prevail today and will shock the national media in doing so.
He is a populist outsider.
He is a conservative, and on the other side, Raphael Warnock is one of the most radical members of the United States Senate.
He would be radical by the standards of California, much less a southern state like Georgia.
So Georgians, please get out today.
I know it's a lot of bad weather in Georgia.
We need you to persevere, persist, not just vote yourself, but convince your friends and neighbors and allies to get out and vote as well.
By the way, speaking of Hershel Walker, one of the greatest running backs of all time, Steve, I want to take some umbrage with you over your designation.
Good.
Tom Brady is the greatest athlete of all time.
He is certainly the best quarterback, probably the best football player, but Michael Jordan would like a word about who is the greatest athlete of all time.
I will die on this hill.
steve bannon
It is Michael Jordan.
unidentified
The Chicago, you don't have to scratch too hard to have the Chicago boy come out.
steve bannon
That's full going Chicago.
Hang over a second because I'm going to lose Posovic.
Let me do this.
Can we play?
unidentified
Do we?
steve bannon
I want both these guys to see it.
I want to play the meltdown at the White House yesterday about the Hunter Biden situation.
Let's play this before we lose Posovic.
karine jean-pierre
We see this as an interesting, or a coincidence, if I may, that he would so haphazardly, Twitter would so haphazardly push this distraction.
That is full of old news, if you think about it.
And at the same time, Twitter is facing very real and very serious questions about the rising volume of anger, hate, and anti-Semitism on their platform.
And how they're letting it happen.
And, you know, the President said last week, more leaders need to speak out and reject this.
And it's very alarming and very dangerous.
But our focus right now is helping the American families.
I just talked about what the President is going to be doing in Arizona, talking about the Chips and Science Act, talking about how we're bringing manufacturing jobs back here to the U.S., talking about, under this administration, more than 700,000 jobs have been created.
Decisions were made to censor reporting leading up to the election.
My question was, is it the White House view that these decisions were made appropriately in light of what has come out?
anything to help a single American improve their lives.
unidentified
Decisions were made to censor reporting leading up to the election.
My question was, is it the White House view that these decisions were made appropriately in light of what has come out?
karine jean-pierre
Which decisions?
By whom?
By Twitter.
By Twitter on, okay.
So look, we see this as an interesting or a coincidence, if I may, that he would so haphazardly, Twitter was so haphazardly pushed this distraction.
That is full of old news, if you think about it.
And at the same time, Twitter is facing very real and very serious questions about the rising volume of anger, hate.
steve bannon
and anti-Semitism on their platform.
You're going to have to choose sides here.
Tell me, by the way, this is about FBI, DOJ, all of it.
This is not just about Elon Musk.
They are scared to the core of their being.
If that's their first line, we're helping the American family.
This is Bill Clinton on his thing.
I'm spending my time helping the American family.
We got him.
Jack Posobiec.
jack posobiec
Clinton's line was against all in 96, right?
The famous line.
unidentified
No attack had ever helped a hungry child.
jack posobiec
You know, that, you know, that was the great, the great, the great Bill Clinton, you know, you know, sarcasm intended.
Uh, look, her calling this a distraction, but then if you notice, she actually says on the quiet part out loud, she calls it old news.
Oh, so you're admitting that it's true.
You're admitting that your deals with the Chinese communist party, the compromises, these escorts, which were more than likely foreign agents or certainly foreign compromise agents on Hunter Biden, the son of the vice president at the time.
That we're coming in.
And then on the next page, he's going into doing dirty deals with the top Chinese spy chief, Patrick Ho.
Meanwhile, we've all we could look at the documents.
We can even see what's been out in public since then, because we've had this since October 2020.
We know that they were doing deals with Burisma.
The plot was to get Ukrainian gas to the EU.
They destabilized Ukraine because they could to stand monetary Uh, benefit monetary gain from all of this.
That's what the Biden family wants.
You want to talk about helping people?
How you talk about, how about you talk about the thousands of people that are dead in Ukraine, in the Donbass across the entire country that never would have happened if you hadn't been selling your office, sir.
That's what I want to talk about.
I don't think it's old news to the people that are living in Ukraine right now, to the people that are fighting for their lives, because all of this could have been prevented.
If the FBI hadn't come in and worked with Twitter to censor this story and Donald Trump had been given his rightfully and duly elected second term as president of the United States.
If you had had this story out there more than anything else, I think you've seen a lot of people point to this and say, look, we have absolute proof now, right?
Absolute proof.
Mike Lindell's line that there was rigging.
In this election, the FBI goes to Twitter and we have Yulroth's documents.
I published all the documents on Saturday.
You can go find it.
Post Millennial reported, you know, had the whole thing up after I put it in.
Yulroth said, we censored it based on guidance from federal law enforcement, period, full stop.
And then the FEC voted 6-0 that it couldn't have been.
Steve, this is the best part.
The FEC voted 6-0 that it wasn't political bias.
Why?
Here's the key.
Because Twitter was acting on guidance from federal law enforcement.
Boom.
steve bannon
Gotcha.
You agree, the White House, this is the worst thing they could have done.
They should have just passed on the question.
She showed how nervous they are, how they're not prepared for this.
jack posobiec
Terrified.
steve bannon
So hey, if you think this is not going to increase our onslaught, you would be sadly mistaken.
Is that correct, Jack Posobiec?
jack posobiec
Oh, 100%.
Because to the White House, to Karine Jean-Pierre, To anybody else who's there, I want you to understand that we're going to be taking copies of this laptop now, and we're going to be mailing it out to every single outlet that we can find.
We're going to inundate you with copies of this laptop.
We're going to come at you with every piece of document that's there.
And by the way, the new house is getting the subpoena machine ready.
steve bannon
Jack, just hang here for one second.
Short commercial break.
We're going to lose Pasova here in a second.
I've got Cortez.
We've got a lot going on.
Hang in there.
Back in a moment.
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By the way, Getter, we're doing live streams all the time.
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Playmakers make plays.
Talk to me about the RNC in Harmeet.
jack posobiec
Look, you know, one of the cool things, by the way, on Getter is that if you're doing a Getter live stream now, you might actually find Stephen K. Bannon popping in, commenting on your stuff live, because he's known to kind of troll around in the live streams.
And it's kind of the new way of getting jumped on by the gang.
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steve bannon
No, no, but here's the thing about the live streams.
I did one with, uh, with Tiermondale that we get a chance to get even more in depth.
Cortez's things is amazing.
Yours are amazing.
That's why I pop in all the time just to learn.
And I may throw in a, I may throw in a two cents all the time, but that's why.
jack posobiec
You never know.
steve bannon
By the way, as soon as you go up, you get, we did this thing the other day.
We did on Twitter.
We had 43,000 people like in an hour.
It was amazing.
Playmakers, play, playmakers make plays.
It's Harmeet Dhillon, the playmaker to make plays at the RNC.
jack posobiec
Look, here's the thing that she's talking about while she's going around to these 168 and also to the grassroots, and I think it's interesting that she's making the dual track play because of course it is the 168 that do the vote, and she's very smart to realize that, but she's also going out to the grassroots.
Steve, she's talking about doing to the RNC what Elon Musk did to Twitter.
Absolutely go in, gut that place, drop the file.
I'd love to see the RNC files.
Imagine the data that they have in there.
Which candidates they decided to pull money from.
Which candidates, they raised money in their name and then never turned around and spent in their races.
Hmm.
I can think of a few people in Pennsylvania and Arizona that would be very into Georgia too, probably be very interested to see those files.
You know what else I want to see?
I want to see the removal.
This is big, by the way, the RNC should be taken out of Washington, DC, and it should be sent somewhere either in the Southwest, the Midwest, get it out of DC, get it out of the swamp.
If you have to have one office open, Fine.
You can have a cotton there and someone can sleep in to answer mail and to tell the lobbyists to pound sand.
But I hear the things that she's talking about.
I hear the things that she's putting out.
She's got a plan forward.
And I think it's very strong.
I think it's a very strong case.
Go in.
Absolutely overturn that administration.
Overturn that.
And by the way, if you want to have my two cents on it, I would do the same thing to the NRSC and the NRCC while we're at it.
steve bannon
Jack Posobiec, we've got a lot on Arizona and Hunter to go through in the next couple of days.
How do people get to you on social media?
jack posobiec
Yeah, Hunter's got a lot of Parmesan cheese to go through, too.
You follow me at Twitter, of course, at Jack Posobiec, Getter at Jack Posobiec as well, because I'm staying on Getter.
Getter has to stay up because we cannot simply hand over all of our free speech to the whims of an international billionaire.
I've watched enough too many sci-fi and Ridley Scott movies to know to trust that move.
steve bannon
We still don't even know what the policies over there are for what gets taken down and what.
jack posobiec
We're getting the open AI, we're getting the Neuralink.
I think I'm not going to put all my eggs in one basket on that.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it.
Real America's Voice.
Charlie Kirk comes up at noon following.
jack posobiec
By the way, by the way, I've got to put the call out.
War Room, Human Events, Charlie Kirk, Tucker Carlson, Tim Pool, AmericaFest, The Meeting of the Minds, this December 17th.
People don't realize we're doing all the shows together.
We're doing all the shows out of the exact same place.
Every single show that you know and love is going to be together in one central location.
I mean, this is the Deep State number one.
James O'Keefe, Deep State's number one target will be this meeting of the minds and your presence is requested at AmFest.com.
steve bannon
Tpusa.com slash Worm.
Go right there now.
You get all access to all the information.
It's in Metro Phoenix, 17th to the 20th.
It's going to be amazing.
jack posobiec
People know we're doing all the shows there live.
We're doing all the shows live.
steve bannon
Yeah, it's gonna be insane.
It's gonna be great.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, brother.
Thank you, Jack Pasovic.
Cortez, you've made your pitch on Michael Jordan as the greatest, but you know Michael Jordan was a playmaker, and he made plays, and he wanted the ball, just like Brady.
Here's the difference in greatness.
They want the ball when it matters the most.
That's what you can tell you as a kid.
You could tell who the leaders were.
They want the ball when the game's on the line to make plays.
Tell me about RNC.
steve cortes
And by the way, you and I are not going to agree on Michael Jordan versus Tom Brady, but I think you and I would agree that when it comes to social media, Jack Posobiec is the GOAT.
He is the greatest of all time on social media.
He's a machine at it.
But regarding Playmakers and the RNC, look, you know, the RNC, let's just be honest about it.
This is a new political era.
It's a digital age.
And yet the RNC still acts like it's old Washington, like it's permanent Washington.
It is a slow and bureaucratic and plotting machine that doesn't work in this era.
So we need new ideas, new agendas and yes, new personnel and new leadership.
And I firmly believe that that leadership will come from Harmeet Dhillon.
She is an absolute champion of America First.
She's an extremely skilled media communicator.
She's also A tiger of a lawyer.
If you need a lawyer in your corner, if you want a legal lion, you're going to go for Harmeet Dhillon.
She's also an outsider and somebody who happens to be from California.
I think this is particularly important.
In these states that have terrible election mechanics and protocols, and we want to change those in the states where we can, but in states where we can't, we have to adjust and engage in the mechanics of collecting ballots.
California is the epicenter of ballot harvesting.
The Democrats really perfected it there and then exported it to the rest of the United States.
Harmeet is from California.
She understands intrinsically what the Democrats have done well there and the tactics that the Republicans must use and mimic from the Democrats regarding ballot collections.
And again, I want to stress, though, to the posse, in the states where we can clean up election procedures, we must do so, OK?
This isn't the way it should be.
But in states where we can't, we have to compete by the present rules.
And I think Armie Dillon is going to be a wonderful leader for the RNC in transforming That organization.
By the way, I also fully endorse Jack's call to get the RNC physically out of Washington, D.C.
Wouldn't just be symbolically important.
I think it would also result in a completely changed organization.
Better people, better culture.
It would be wonderful to have it somewhere in the middle of America.
Put it in Kansas.
Put it in Missouri.
That would make a lot of sense.
steve bannon
Steve, hang on for one second.
We've got to talk about JP Morgan, Jamie Dimon, also the economy.
You've got new numbers coming out.
Also, people are talking about implosion of the consumer.
Finally, the finances of the consumer.
steve cortes
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