Dec. 3, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is the primal scream of a dying regime. | ||
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big line? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| I vote aye under duress. I found out today that I have no choice but to vote aye or I'll be arrested and charged with a felony. | ||
| I don't think that that is what our founders had in mind when they used the democratic process to elect our leaders, our former self-government. | ||
| I find that very disheartening. | ||
| With a vote of four ayes and zero nays, you've approved item 1B. | ||
| Anything else for the good of the order? | ||
| Okay, welcome. | ||
| It's Friday, 3 December in the year of Allure 2022. | ||
| You're in the War Room for the afternoon show. | ||
| Simultaneously, Elon Musk is coming out right now or should be coming out shortly with his – he's going to release – he says all the internal documents. | ||
| About the Hunter Biden laptop, and as you remember, we were the first. | ||
| We worked with that for months, working with the New York Post and Miranda Devine, Emma Jo Morris, that great editorial team there to release. | ||
| The Laptop from Hell, and we were very prominent. | ||
| We were the first TV show to put it up consistently every day. | ||
| Eventually, we've never been on Twitter, but we had a Twitter account, War Room Twitter account. | ||
| I've never personally been on Twitter ever and would never go on Twitter. | ||
| And that was taken down because of the contents of the laptop from hell. | ||
| So we're going to be following that. | ||
| We've got Mike Davis. | ||
| We have Darren Beatty at Revolver. | ||
| We've got Natalie Winters, our executive editor, all on it. | ||
| We're going to be talking about that at the bottom of the hour. | ||
| We've got to start in Arizona. | ||
| Something extraordinary is going on in Arizona and, quite frankly, we have two counties, Cochise and Mojave. | ||
| It's very, I think, up in the air how they certified or were they forced to certify this election and what exactly is Arizona law, procedures, processes, what did they really work off of as far as the manual. | ||
| And we've got Carrie Lake and her team, we have Caroline Wren, we have Tom van Vliet, so a lot to get to. | ||
| I want to start with an extraordinary story out of the Daily Caller, and I think the Daily Caller Foundation, Arjun Singh, is the reporter contributor that has an exclusive On really the emails from Katie Hobbs's office and her deputy, the elections director, was it Corey Lorick? | ||
| Arjun, just walk us through, tell, what is the story? | ||
| Because it was pretty, it shocked, and remember the whole world's watching this. | ||
| We had Dave Walsh, our energy expert on today. | ||
| We're talking about, as we always do, this situation with energy in Europe. | ||
| And he made the comment at the end of it, he said, hey, the guys in Europe he talks to, everybody's watching Arizona, the whole world's watching, not just in this country, the entire world's watching what's happening in Arizona. | ||
| Can you walk us through your story, sir? | ||
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Well, thank you very much, Steve. | |
| It's great to be here. | ||
| And you're absolutely right. | ||
| We should be watching Arizona, given that what's happening there is frankly unprecedented. | ||
| All the people I'm talking to say the same thing. | ||
| So after the election on November the 8th, the counties had to take about three weeks before they could sort of certify November the 28th, 20 days after the election is when they're supposed to do it. | ||
| And Cochise and Mojave County, specifically Mojave, did not want to certify on the 28th. | ||
| They wanted to wait some time. | ||
| They wanted to do some due diligence, particularly Cochise in Mojave County. | ||
| They wanted to wait until the 28th so as to symbolically represent their displeasure with what was happening in Maricopa County, which is where Phoenix is. | ||
| It's the largest county in the state and where there's an ongoing legal battle regarding the procedures that were followed in the election over there. | ||
| And so As a result of that, Katie Hobbs, the Secretary of State of Arizona who ran for governor, her deputy Corey Lorick, who is the Arizona State Elections Director, sent a series of threatening emails and letters to the elected representatives of the Mojave County Board of Supervisors. | ||
| She said that they would be sued. | ||
| that they would face legal actions of various kinds. | ||
| Their lawyers may face sanctions for representing them for not so voting to certify on November the 28th. | ||
| And she even said that they would be criminally referred to the Arizona Attorney General's office for prosecution under Arizona Statute 161010, which is a class six felony. | ||
| It's a felony that's used to prosecute child molesters as well. | ||
| And so That was what the threats were that Ron Gold in the video you just played talked about. | ||
| And as a result of that, he voted under duress. | ||
| This was also received by other supervisors, and they voted to certify on November the 28th. | ||
| So they met their deadline, but at the same time it was done in a manner that was frankly unprecedented. | ||
| Arjun, there's been this controversy from the beginning about should Katie Hobbs recuse herself because of potential conflicts of interest. | ||
| In your reporting, is it possible that Cori Laurich sent these, since she's the deputy and the head of this, I think state director for elections, is a direct report? | ||
| To Katie Hobbs, the Secretary of State. | ||
| Could it possibly be that she would send such a tough, these emails and the back and forth when you're not just talking about, and we're going to get into sanctions in a minute because this is Reuters hit again with a, I think an Obama appointed judge on another case to kind of threaten people. | ||
| Could it possibly she, she not checked with, could she have sent that without checking in with Katie Hobbs and particularly raising this concept of criminal penalties for supervisors? | ||
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Well, Steve, it's difficult to say. | |
| As you noted, Cori Laurich is the top elections deputy to Katie Hobbs, who is the Secretary of State. | ||
| It's unlikely, however, that any major threat of legal action from her office would go out without her approval. | ||
| Obviously, there's no internal record that's been released of whether Cori Laurich spoke to Katie Hobbs before sending this letter. | ||
| And of course, as you mentioned, the conflict of interest is certainly one to note. | ||
| But I don't think that it could have gone out without Katie Hobbs at least signing off on the threat of legal action. | ||
| She already has been pretty public about suing Cochise County, which the lawsuit for which was concluded yesterday and which led to the certification of the votes later. | ||
| But I don't think that this could have gone out without Katie Hobbs having at least some tacit agreement beforehand, if not afterwards. | ||
| In your reporting, as you've gotten the facts and broken this exclusive with the emails, does it, in your reporting, does it look like these two counties were, based on the facts as you know them, compelled to certify this election, sir? | ||
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Oh yes, absolutely they were compelled. | |
| The supervisors who've gone on the record, who've spoken about the notices and the letters they received, Said that they would not have proceeded were it not for these letters. | ||
| They've said very clearly that they was under duress. | ||
| That's what Ron Gold said in his video. | ||
| I don't think that they would have voted to certify on November the 28th had these letters and threats of legal action and criminal prosecution not been received. | ||
| They of course wanted to conduct some due diligence, listen to voters, hold hearings, Find a way to figure out what sort of the facts were regarding the procedures followed on November the 8th's election and then perhaps vote to certify. | ||
| So it's fair to say that they were compelled by these legal threats in order to do so. | ||
| Given that, Arjun, I think Monday may be the date that they're going to go through at least the first phase of the 6th of December of the certification, what they call a canvas. | ||
| And they're talking about it in law, you've got this, how you can contest it. | ||
| In your reporting, how wild is it going to get next week? | ||
| In other words, we're a long way from this thing being over. | ||
| In your reporting, what do you sense is going to happen next week in the legal realm, in the political realm, about this contested election? | ||
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Well, what comes next is difficult to say because both Cochise and Mojave, legally speaking right now, have already certified the results of their vote. | |
| In the case of Cochise, it was done later. | ||
| In the case of Mojave, it was done by the deadline. | ||
| And so whether they could say, you know, challenge the Secretary of State's office in court Suggests that they were pressured to do so they were voting under duress and that somehow affects the validity It's difficult to say and it's difficult to snow to see whether a judge would agree with them Because effectively the issue is in their eyes now moves of course some would say so that's a big thing to talk about but with respect to what comes next on the state at the state level is | ||
| It's the state that ultimately has to sort of do the final canvas of the results on December 5th and 6th. | ||
| And so whether some action could come from the Arizona state legislature, the Republicans over there, whether the governor's office, which there's currently a Republican governor, Doug Ducey, whether others could act at the state level to Basically, have Cochise and Mojave counties' views heard to perhaps pause until they proceed further. | ||
| That's something that the state-level officials of the Republican Party and elected officials will have to decide. | ||
| But as for the counties, it's difficult to see them sort of having a path to move forward on legally speaking. | ||
| Politically, of course, they can continue to make statements about their duress, but legally speaking, it's a done deal from their end. | ||
| Arjun, how do people follow you at The Daily Caller and how they follow you on social media? | ||
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Thank you very much, Steve. | |
| My Twitter handle is Arjun S. Writings. | ||
| That's Arjun S. Writings. | ||
| It's where I keep posting my exclusives, my tips. | ||
| We at The Daily Caller, of course, are very much on this story because the story is not going away. | ||
| There's certainly a lot of questions that people are asking about Arizona and about other states. | ||
| And we at The Daily Caller are definitely here to report on all of that as well as all the facts as they come out. | ||
| Now The Daily Caller has been incredible on this story and it's a global story. | ||
| So Arjun Singh from The Daily Caller, thank you very much for joining us here in the War Room. | ||
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Thank you Steve, happy to be here. | |
| Let me bring in Kerry Lake. | ||
| Kerry, you just heard it right there. | ||
| You know, Arjun and the Daily Caller, it's Tucker's operation. | ||
| They're pretty on top of things and they got exclusive. | ||
| They got the receipts here. | ||
| What do you have to say about when you have two counties the size of Cochise and Mojave that have essentially been compelled I wish I could tell you. | ||
| It surprises me, but it doesn't, Steve. | ||
| fight they've had down at Cochise where they wouldn't even let them finish their due diligence, being compelled to certify this election, ma'am. | ||
| I wish I could tell you it surprises me but it doesn't, Steve. I mean this is akin to making a vote with a gun to your head. | ||
| I mean they were under duress and I don't know how that even holds up and I'm glad to see that we have some patriots who are willing to fight. | ||
| Let's talk about disenfranchisement for a bit. | ||
| We're talking a lot about the voters disenfranchised in Maricopa County, and that's what's really at the crux of all of this. | ||
| But think about the voters in all of these other counties, these smaller, 14 other smaller counties in Arizona, where the rest of the, what, 38% of Arizona lives. | ||
| And their voters have been disenfranchised by the shenanigans that happened on election day in Maricopa County. And so these board of supervisors are just trying to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| They want some answers just as we do as to what happened on election day. I don't know how you can look at what happened in Maricopa County where more than half of the voting locations, the polling locations basically went down at some point or another with equipment failing, printers not working. This is a... | ||
| These are ballot printers. | ||
| You know, tabulators spitting out the ballots all day long. | ||
| People waiting in three and four and even five hour lines only to show up, vote, have their ballots spit out and then be told to send the ballot over to this drawer where they're going to count it. | ||
| You know, trust us, we'll count your ballot. | ||
| This is a debacle and we need to fight this. | ||
| We need to fight this and get to the bottom of it. | ||
| If we cannot move forward with trust in our election system, we've got a real problem in this country and Arizona has been called upon to fix this and make sure that moving forward we have honest elections and we figure out what happened in 2020 or 22 rather. | ||
| We've got about a minute here and we'll hold you through the break. | ||
| You warned about this. | ||
| In fact, I think you've sent letters. | ||
| You try to have press conferences about the conflict of interest. | ||
| And here we had her deputy sent a letter threatening criminal prosecution to compel them to certify an election their boss is in. | ||
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This is exactly the point you warn people about, Carrie Lake. | |
| You cannot make it up. | ||
| Can you imagine if I was sending threatening letters to these guys in Mojave County saying, you better do this for me or else. | ||
| This is strong arming. | ||
| We warned about the conflict of interest, not just with Katie Hobbs, but we had a conflict of interest with Stephen Richer and Bill Gates who were running the Maricopa County elections, and they were obviously against me forming a PAC to try to make sure I didn't get elected. | ||
| There's a conflict of interest in this ruling that came down with this Obama-era judge that came down yesterday against our attorneys. | ||
| There's so many conflict of interest in Maricopa County right now, it almost feels like a complete criminal enterprise. | ||
| Let's take a short break. | ||
| We want to talk about this, what happened yesterday with the sanctions, because the timing of this is quite interesting. | ||
| on next with kerry lake in the world okay here's the reason the carry like a such a threat it. | ||
| It's not just the dynamic personality, it's not just the charisma, it's not the empathy and the way she, was it George Bernard Shaw said, only connect, right? | ||
| The boom, that was the key thing, her connection with people, unlike anybody I've ever seen except for President Trump. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| It's not simply that. | ||
| The reason they're after is something else. | ||
| It's the ability to look, as we talk about here, over the other side of the hill. | ||
| There are two things that have happened in the last couple of days that show that, right? | ||
| The ability to look downrange and to think things through. | ||
| Remember in the Fog of War, that's the key that's necessary. | ||
| One is this Katie Hobbs situation. | ||
| And now Arjun Singh and the team over at Daily Caller, and they're to be complimented about bringing the receipts. | ||
| Everybody's regret. | ||
| We've got that in all the chat rooms. | ||
| Everybody's going to read that story and you have to share that story, particularly in the story where they actually have the emails. | ||
| Now, Katie Hobbs's deputy, Corey Loric, you know, sent these threatening emails and actually bring in criminal sanctions and criminal charges because they know the weapon. | ||
| They'll go to lawfare in a second because they will go there. | ||
| They play Smash Mouth. | ||
| It's like Stalin. | ||
| Right, they've taken the model of the CCP. | ||
| This is what Mark Elias and these guys, it's pure smash mouth all the time, what Carrie Lake warned about. | ||
| She said, hey, how can we, how can we possibly have Katie Hobbs? | ||
| As Secretary of State, when there's going to be these massive conflicts downrange, she could see what was going to happen in November of 2022 when her deputy sent, and you heard, the reason I play that and jump all over it, I've never heard any elected official in the United States of America at an open mic saying, I'm compelled to vote this way because I've been threatened with a class 6 felony and being prosecuted on the same thing you get child molesters for. | ||
| In addition, she, months ago, went to court about the same issues that are in Cochise County right now. | ||
| This whole situation about these machines. | ||
| That they had to be maintained, the whole deal. | ||
| And in that fight, she's fighting for what she could tell was going to happen here. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| A judge ruled against her. | ||
| But then he waited to drop this bomb of lawfare sanctions in the middle of this, which people think, well, hang on, is this what's happened the last couple of days? | ||
| This is pure intimidation. | ||
| But it's the way they roll. | ||
| Hey, and I say with the Republican Party and the MAGA movement, You gotta fight fire with fire. | ||
| They come in hard, and they come in hot, and they do not back off. | ||
| Kerry Lake, tell us about this sanctions, because sanctions is another weapon, another tool they have in the toolbox. | ||
| Yeah, it's just, if it's allowed to stand, it will have a chilling effect on this case, on any election case, on any future case. | ||
| And, you know, five months ago we brought this case. | ||
| We warned, we said these electronic voting machines are a nightmare. | ||
| We don't know how they work. | ||
| The companies won't tell us how they work. | ||
| They've got software that's problematic. | ||
| They're not transparent. | ||
| And we had five experts on those machines that we had testimony from. | ||
| And they threw it out and said that we didn't have standing. | ||
| Imagine a candidate and a voter who doesn't have standing. | ||
| So they threw it out. | ||
| If they were going to sanction, they should have done so then. | ||
| They waited until the eve of us putting forth our lawsuit, which is coming probably by the end of next week. | ||
| And they sanctioned our attorneys on that. | ||
| And what they're trying to do, Steve, is send a big message to any attorney who gets involved in this ever-important election. | ||
| We've got to fight what happened in this election for the people of this state, of this country. | ||
| And they're trying to say, don't you dare get involved, back down, or we will come after you. | ||
| We'll come after your license to practice law. | ||
| We'll come after your ability to earn a living. | ||
| It is absolutely disgusting. | ||
| We are going to appeal it. | ||
| My attorneys are going to appeal it. | ||
| And we have to appeal it. | ||
| By the way, that case that we brought forth five months ago, trying to get rid of these electronic voting machines, because we could see this happening. | ||
| We could see this happening. | ||
| We've got that on appeal as well. | ||
| These voting machines are disastrous. | ||
| Our sacred vote is being trampled. | ||
| We showed up on election day and they didn't even work. | ||
| In many locations. | ||
| And we can't have this happen again. | ||
| So we need to fight back right now. | ||
| This is not Carrie Lake saying this. | ||
| This was Bill Gates going to the microphone in the very first opening salvo of Election Day. | ||
| This is thousands and tens of thousands of people complaining and signing affidavits about the machines. | ||
| This is Cochise County Board of Supervisors saying, hey, we really don't know if we can do this now because we really have to do our own inspection of the machines. | ||
| And Katie Hobbs and Mark Elias. | ||
| That's why they were elected. | ||
| That's why they were elected. | ||
| To do the work for their people. | ||
| And to stand up for their people. | ||
| This is not about me. | ||
| I've said this all along, Steve. | ||
| I'm just one voter. | ||
| But I care deeply about Arizona. | ||
| It is not fun to be in the middle of this. | ||
| But we have no other choice. | ||
| I have no other choice but to stand up and fight right now for the people of Arizona. | ||
| If I don't, who will? | ||
| Who will? | ||
| And they're asking me. | ||
| People are asking me. | ||
| The arrogance of Cochise County, the Cochise County guys said, hey, what we want is Katie Hobbs to come down here and present to us about these machines and other processes and procedures to make sure our voters are not disenfranchised. | ||
| Mark Elias then gets a couple of groups. | ||
| He sues. | ||
| He says the only presentation that the Board of Supervisors are going to get is in a court of law. | ||
| Pure smash mouth. | ||
| This has nothing to do with fair elections, nothing to do with free and transparent elections. | ||
| This is how they use lawfare. | ||
| And then, to top it off, the cherry on top, and if you bring me that case, if you do force us to take you to court, we're going to sanction your attorneys. | ||
| You see how this works? | ||
| You see how this works? | ||
| And that judge, John Tucci, an Obama appointee who worked for a very Democrat law firm that ended up getting pulled into the Perkins Couie, I think is how you pronounce it, they ended up coming together, is the judge making this decision. | ||
| It's all one big dirty swamp in my humble opinion. | ||
| And we need to stand up right now at this moment. | ||
| And you talked about me being a politician that is reaching out to the people. | ||
| It is a movement of we the people. | ||
| And if we let our sacred vote be taken from us with these shoddy, shady elections, I think they're almost fake elections, then we're gone. | ||
| We're gone as a country. | ||
| I don't know what choice we have but to stand up and fight right now. | ||
| And that's why I'm doing this. | ||
| Perkins Coy is Mark Elias' law firm, former law firm. | ||
| They're the guys that hardwired the entire 2020 election. | ||
| In fact, the practice got so big and so... Go ahead, ma'am. | ||
| He's acting like he's the boogeyman, and he's such a great attorney. | ||
| I've seen him speak. | ||
| I was actually shocked when I saw him speak. | ||
| I went, that's the Mark Elias guy? | ||
| He's not very impressive. | ||
| But when you have hundreds of millions of dollars behind you, and you have law fair, and you have all of these judges working with you, it's pretty easy to be successful as a lawyer, right? | ||
| Evil genius is what he is. | ||
| They've thought this through. | ||
| We have to give the devil his due. | ||
| We need that on our side. | ||
| Here's the reason they sanctioned, in your case, because a couple of your senior lawyers are also the ones who are going to file after the certification, and they want to put in the media. | ||
| The Arizona Republic once had big banner headlines, you know, sanctioned lawyers Lawyers who were sanctioned by a judge. | ||
| This is totally and completely coordinated with the media, with the courts, with the far left of the Democratic Party, the radical Democrats, and quite frankly with the McCain establishment who are partners in this. | ||
| You can't say anything else but. | ||
| There's been crickets by that group. | ||
| Go ahead, ma'am. | ||
| It is one big massive infested rat's nest, and it is absolutely going to destroy this country if we don't stand up right now. | ||
| And you're right, it's a lot of different players. | ||
| I mean, we go back to before election day, all the problems that were going on, and you go to election day where it looks like sabotage. | ||
| I mean, how else to explain it where On election day, all of these, coincidentally, all these machines going down the same way. | ||
| It wasn't like one machine shorted out, another machine had problems reading ballots, another machine, you know, the on-off switch broke down. | ||
| These are the same exact type of problems on more than half of the election polling places, election day polling places. | ||
| And it sure as heck looks like an attempt to stop our movement. | ||
| Everybody and their brother knew that our people, our supporters, were showing up on election day. | ||
| And I am crestfallen for the voters of the great state of Arizona, many of them older people, many of them young people voting for the first time, veterans who showed up so excited to vote in this election because they had a candidate in me who was truly going to stand up and do their work and do the people's work. | ||
| And they showed up only to get there and realize, oh my gosh, this election is being botched. | ||
| Looks like, to me, intentionally botched, when they couldn't get their ballot to be read. | ||
| I saw some grown men leaving, in video, leaving these election polling places. | ||
| And they just looked like, oh my gosh, our country's gone. | ||
| Our country's gone. | ||
| When this kind of stuff happens over and over and over again, and we're unable to fight it. | ||
| I will fight this. | ||
| This is a hill we're dying on for me, Steve. | ||
| And I will make it to the top of this hill, and they'll make it to the top of the next hill, and we will bring about fair elections in this state and in this country. | ||
| Last thing, you know, we're doing lots of things on energy and this new bill they're going to put forward for full spectrum energy dominance at the beginning of the new term with the Republican MAGA House. | ||
| And internationally, we have a lot of people talking about Europe and how it's going down. | ||
| They're asking our people every time before we come on, tell us what's going on in Arizona. | ||
| Tell us what's going on in Arizona. | ||
| How humiliating is this for the great state of Arizona that's now at an inflection point to become a worldwide power? | ||
| In chip production, all high technology, to have this humiliating process that now you have stories where election officials are threatening supervisors and counties with felonies and prison terms if they don't certify their illegitimate election, ma'am? | ||
| It's humiliating. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| And it shows that we need to turn our elections around. | ||
| It is a black eye for Arizona. | ||
| And if we allow this to stand without putting up a fight, I don't know that Arizona can recover from it. | ||
| I mean, people are telling me, I want to move out of the state. | ||
| I just can't live in a state where my vote doesn't count. | ||
| Where I have no way to redress and deal with these serious issues. | ||
| The county won't listen to me. | ||
| They act like they're listening. | ||
| They give me two minutes to speak on it and then they just do what they plan to do. | ||
| Where we the people have no say in repairing such an important vital system, our election system. | ||
| It's a huge embarrassment and I think it's going to be dangerous to Arizona's future. | ||
| Where do people follow you, ma'am? | ||
| Next week's big. | ||
| They can go to CarrieLake.com and, you know, if you can make a donation there, I hate to even ask, but attorneys don't pay for themselves. | ||
| We've got great attorneys. | ||
| They can go to my Twitter, my Getter, my Truth Feed, and talk to me there. | ||
| I know that the people are with me in this fight, Steve. | ||
| The people are with you, Carrie Lake. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Tom Van Fline, Caroline Wren on the way forward next in the War Room. | ||
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We rejoice when the low fall, let's take down the CCD! | |
| They have all I've returned to. | ||
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Stephen K. Back. | |
| Okay, we're going to do what we do best here at the War Room. | ||
| The great production team in Denver, Arilla Marcus' voice. | ||
| Of course, our own folks here at The Worm. | ||
| We're going to juggle. | ||
| We've got Tom Van Fline and we've got Caroline Wren and the situation in Arizona is building up. | ||
| We also got the great Mike Davis. | ||
| Elon Musk has pulled a, hey, we're going to do it in five, but upon further review, it's going to take another 40 minutes to double check some facts. | ||
| Mike Davis joins us. | ||
| Mike, I think lawyers might be saying, hey, Elon, we need a belt of suspenders, another belt. | ||
| Here's what's happening is that they're going to release the internal documents on the internal documents about Twitter's suppression of the Hunter Biden laptop from hell in the days leading up to the 2020 election. | ||
| Mike Davis, give us your assessment of this, because you've preached the gospel of we got to take on the big tech oligarchs, Twitter being one of them, and Elon Musk is actually inside the wire right now. | ||
| People know I'm no fan of Musk, but he's inside the wire, and he's blowing things up every day. | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| Well, what Elon Musk is doing is pretty bold and courageous, Steve, but he's going to take some incoming fire on this. | ||
| He's going to expose that Big Tech colluded to swing the election for Biden. | ||
| They know that this laptop provided, that it had damning Smoking gun evidence that Biden was on the Chinese and Ukrainian payrolls along with his son, Hunter, along with Biden's brother, James, and the New York Post was going to run this story. | ||
| And so they, the, they called it Russian disinformation and they shut it down. | ||
| They shut down the oldest newspaper in America, the New York Post. | ||
| And they started, they started deleting accounts on Twitter and Facebook and all over big tech. | ||
| For anyone who dared to report what was happening here. | ||
| And there's no question that if the American people would have read what was on that laptop before November 2020, there is no way that President Biden would be sitting in the White House right now. | ||
| The reason this is so contentious, the management's going to have liability, the board of directors is going to have liability. | ||
| I mean, this is as dicey as it gets. | ||
| As everybody knows, we worked on that with the great Rudy Giuliani and Bernie Kerrick and the great lawyer Bob Costello with the New York Post team. | ||
| And you've got to remember, that's Rupert Murdoch and his lawyers. | ||
| They know something. | ||
| They own all these tabloids in England. | ||
| They know what they're doing. | ||
| They went through this thing with a fine-tooth comb because they understood the incoming they were going to take. | ||
| And Biden sat there, Mike Davis, and looked the American people in the eye, and he lied to the American people. | ||
| He said it was a Russian disinformation claim, correct? | ||
| Yeah, and then they got all the spooks and the intel agency to write that letter. | ||
| Uh, backing it up saying it was a Russian dis disinformation, disinformation campaign. | ||
| It just, it goes to show you when the left talks about disinformation, misinformation, that means we're over the target. | ||
| And they were over the, on this Hunter Biden laptop. | ||
| It's, it's smoking gun evidence. | ||
| I would be surprised. | ||
| I would, I would be, I would not be surprised if Biden, uh, does not face tremendous pressure from his own party. | ||
| I, who knows, maybe he won't even last. | ||
| For the rest of his term. | ||
| I want to pull the camera back for a second. | ||
| This is what you've been warning about, that we have to get serious about these tech oligarchs. | ||
| You have companies like Google and Facebook and Amazon and Twitter that are just too powerful. | ||
| They have so much more power than anybody envisioned. | ||
| They've paid off everybody in DC. | ||
| This is why you're such a... People don't realize the bravery of Mike Davis. | ||
| Because the city is awash in CCP cash, and it's awash in, with the margins these companies have, it's awash in big tech cash, sir. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you grow up with red hair, Steve, you're used to just getting the crap beat up, so I don't, it doesn't bother me at all, but I'll tell you, it's Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple, those are the online gatekeepers. | ||
| They, you know, Apple's a two trillion dollar company, Google, Amazon, Facebook or trillion-dollar companies, they could crush Twitter instantly if they want to. | ||
| Just like they did to Parler. | ||
| Remember what happened with Parler? | ||
| There was Twitter that was, it was the old Twitter that was controlled by the woke left, and people said, if you don't like Twitter, build your own. | ||
| So Parler did, and they quickly got a 1.3 billion dollar valuation. | ||
| So what happened? | ||
| They blamed Parler for January 6th, even though the protests were organized on Facebook. | ||
| Google and Apple kicked Parler out of the App Store, Duopoly and Amazon kicked Parler out the Internet. | ||
| We have to update and enforce our century-old antitrust laws so we can break up big tech's gatekeeping power so they do not have the ability to crush Twitter like they did to Parler. | ||
| Do I have the Nicole Wallace? | ||
| Can I play? | ||
| Before I let you go, we're going to go back to Arizona with Caroline Wren and Tom van Vliet on this fiasco there. | ||
| And I know you've been watching that closely, Mike. | ||
| But I want to play. | ||
| This is how the mainstream media is now going to pivot this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| This happened a moment ago on MSNBC. | ||
| Please watch this. | ||
| Is Twitter a national security threat? | ||
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Well, you know, online radicalization, whether it's radicalization to violence that is promoted by foreign terrorist organizations like the Islamic State, or whether it's radicalization to extremist violence based on anti-Semitism, anti-LGBTQ, racist comments, we know, the statistics show it, the evidence show it, and our real world examples show it, that this kind of online extremism | |
| They went from an apparatus they loved and rubbed up against to and controlled to now Mike Davis. | ||
| Is Twitter a national security threat? | ||
| There was no discussion about being a national security threat when they literally suppressed information about the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Having the Biden family on the payroll, okay? | ||
| Leading up, in the weeks leading up, we know from all the polling, if people had known that, including Democrats, Joe Biden wouldn't have been able to steal the 2020 election, okay? | ||
| This is how severe it is. | ||
| Yet now, sir, starting this afternoon, when Elon Musk is going to put forward the internal receipts, it's a national security threat. | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| Yeah, so Elon Musk must be a Russian disinformation agent. | ||
| I think that's what the left calls anyone they don't like. | ||
| TikTok is controlled by China. | ||
| TikTok is a Chinese spying device. | ||
| You never hear the Democrats, you never hear the Washington Post, you never hear the New York Times, you never hear the lefts complaining about TikTok and their Chinese influence, but all of a sudden this South African Elon Musk brings free speech back to Twitter and all of a sudden it's a national security threat. | ||
| It goes to show you what the lefts Faking is, if they can't control the narrative, if they can't censor content moderation or censor under the guise of misinformation and disinformation, which means the hard truth, if they can't censor, if they can't do content moderation, they think it's a national security threat. | ||
| It's a threat to the Democrat Party because they know if the American people find out the truth that they're not going to win. | ||
| Mike, how do people get you on social media? | ||
| You're doing a hit. | ||
| Everybody's got to watch Laura Ingraham tonight. | ||
| Mike is going to be on the Laura Ingraham show. | ||
| You don't want to miss that. | ||
| How do people get to you on social media, sir? | ||
| It's article3project.org, article3project.org, and then it's at article3project, at article3project. | ||
| On Getter, Twitter, Truth, and my personal is MRDDMIA. | ||
| MRDDMIA. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| You're fighting the good fight, sir. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| Let's go to, I've got Carolyn Wren, and I've got, I think, let's take Tom, he's on the phone, let's take Tom, let's go to Carolyn Wren first. | ||
| Carolyn, tell us what, everybody's kind of hanging now on tenterhooks about what's going to happen. | ||
| They've come and sanctioned your lawyers, Van Fly is going to walk us through that. | ||
| They're trying to chop block you out of the gates. | ||
| This forced certification under compulsion, they're compelling, Counties to forcibly certify elections they don't want to certify. | ||
| And the whole world sees it. | ||
| The emails, all that. | ||
| What is the path forward starting on Monday or Tuesday next week when we can go to the next phase of this? | ||
| Your entire movement is waiting to hear the answer. | ||
| Well, you're right on the shakedown. | ||
| I mean, what Katie Hobbs is doing right now in an effort to obtain power is tyrannical. | ||
| It's Banana Republic on a next level. | ||
| I mean, she's shaking down counties, asking for answers about what occurred on Election Day, and she's threatening them with jail time if they don't comply with her wishes. | ||
| And it's like she's in a mafia movie or something. | ||
| And she's not even seeking an election at this point. | ||
| They're seeking a coronation. | ||
| And we don't care what the media says. | ||
| We don't care what twice convicted racist Katie Hobbs says. | ||
| If this process was illegitimate, then so are the results. | ||
| And Katie Hobbs is using language to intimidate these Board of Supervisors into certifying an election that, you know, the language cannot be found in any Arizona election statue. | ||
| You can find it, though, verbatim, from Mark Elias' legal findings. | ||
| That's really where this is being driven. | ||
| And you know, our founders warned us about this type of tyranny. | ||
| In fact, James Madison said that the accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly to be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. | ||
| And that is what we're seeing right now. | ||
| Katie Hobbs is attempting to be the judge, jury, and executioner in Arizona elections, and that's not how a constitutional republic works. | ||
| So, understanding that they're playing Smash Mouth, they got Mark Elias, they're threatening Cochise County, which you warned about on the machines, they got Mojave, they have intimidated everybody, and they're rolling towards this coronation. | ||
| How do we, what is the next phase that we go on offense? | ||
| I mean, this is in the hands of our attorneys right now, and we have great confidence in them. | ||
| Less confidence, obviously, in the courts. | ||
| What they did with the courts, which Tom is going to talk about later, was clearly an intimidation factor. | ||
| They're trying to intimidate our attorneys, intimidate any lawyer who's willing to put their name on a A lawsuit on our behalf or whoever files a behalf and say you're going to be threatened with sanctions. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| We have to stand up and fight. | ||
| We can't be scared of these people. | ||
| We can't just walk away. | ||
| The grassroots movement that Kerry created in Arizona was truly historic. | ||
| I mean, she captured an energy that drew interest from voters of all backgrounds and all political persuasions. | ||
| But in Maricopa County, democracy doesn't die in darkness. | ||
| It gets taken away from the people in broad daylight. | ||
| And I think back, Steve, to the partisan press. | ||
| If you remember, they were writing Katie Hobbs' obituary weeks in advance of Election Day. | ||
| The RealClearPolitics polling average was 3.5 points that had Carrie Lake up. | ||
| But what happened on Election Day was nothing short of historic voter disenfranchisement that changed the outcome of this election. | ||
| And they were a lot less subtle this time, I will say, than they were in 2020. | ||
| And we're going to take it to the courts. | ||
| And the attorneys are going to fight this. | ||
| And they cannot stop this movement that Carrie Lake has. | ||
| They just can't do it. | ||
| Caroline, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| Because this thing's heating up over the weekend and it's going to get white hot starting Monday, Tuesday next week. | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They can follow me at Caroline Wren and on Gitter, Truth Social, or Twitter. | ||
| Thank you very much, ma'am. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| One of the best guys, I've known this guy for a long time, back in the days of Sarah Palin, when Sarah Palin first came on the scene, Tom van Vlijn. | ||
| Tom, you're one of the attorneys here. | ||
| They have a weapon, and it's called sanctions of attorneys, and it's trying to intimidate the legal profession. | ||
| What happened, and why did this thing drop, this sanction just drop in the middle of what we're working on now? | ||
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Well, the timing is interesting, Steve, considering the judges had Months and months to issue a ruling like this. | |
| And whether that was deliberate or the judge was just busy, but the timing is suspicious because of what's going on right now. | ||
| But you got to keep in mind sanctions against attorneys and litigants is pretty rare. | ||
| In every lawsuit, there's going to be a winner and a loser. | ||
| Litigation is a zero sum game. | ||
| So you cannot just routinely sanction the losing party. | ||
| That's not how American litigation works. | ||
| You have to do something as a lawyer or litigant that is deemed bad faith or frivolous or you just filed a claim with no research whatsoever. | ||
| In the case that was filed earlier this year, Kerry Lake and Mark Fincham had four or five experts. | ||
| They had a legal theory laid out that in reading the judge's sanction order, I don't think the judge fully appreciated because one of the reasons for sanctioning the lawyers and he almost sanctioned the litigants, Was saying that, well, they admit they vote on paper ballots. | ||
| The lawsuit was to go to paper ballots. | ||
| Well, that is disingenuous because those paper ballots had to then be fed into a tabulator machine. | ||
| And that's what the lawsuit was really about, whether it should be fed into a machine where it was subject to adjudication and other issues. | ||
| And so for the judge to say it was frivolous because they know themselves that there's a paper ballot because they voted before. | ||
| is to me disingenuous and a way for the court to make it look more... to make it look frivolous when it wasn't. | ||
| Tom, just hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We'll be back with Tom van Vlijn about the situation in Arizona next in the War Room. | ||
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| Tom van Vliet is one of the top lawyers around. | ||
| Tom, the timing of this and the sanctions, and you said this was far from frivolous. | ||
| You had experts that they had on technology. | ||
| It's the first time I really understood the machines. | ||
| Was really looking, you know, sitting down with those experts you had. | ||
| So you had these experts that need it. | ||
| It's the big problem in Cochise County now. | ||
| They're being compelled and forced to do this against their will. | ||
| The same issue that you guys brought up six months ago. | ||
| So it's certainly not frivolous. | ||
| It's the heart. | ||
| of this issue and the breakdown of Maricopa County. | ||
| It's far from frivolous, but the legal part of it's such a ridiculous. | ||
| But it's also what they're doing is very sophisticated in the media part. | ||
| They want it. | ||
| They dropped it over the in the last two days of this week because they want to be able to say next week when you actually go to the contest, the elections part that, oh, look at her lawyers. | ||
| They were just sanctioned for a frivolous lawsuit. | ||
| The Arizona Republic is going to put that in a massive bold headline right at the top. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because they're playing information war and law for at the same time. | ||
| Tom Van Fline, your thoughts and analysis. | ||
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That is absolutely correct. | |
| The timing is perfect for that. | ||
| And they'll probably misconstrue it and just conflate this current case ruling with the next case, which is a different lawsuit altogether based on different issues. | ||
| And different facts and different legal theories. | ||
| And probably in their coverage, they won't write facts, they'll just put opinion in their article, and they will suggest or imply that it's the same suit, they're bringing it again, they already got tossed out, and it will undermine the credibility of the next lawsuit and undermine the image and the talent of the lawyers that Kerry has working on this. | ||
| And the judge says as much, by the way, in the order. | ||
| That's what makes us very curious. | ||
| At the end of the order, the judge basically says, I'm imposing sanctions because we want to deter any cases like this that could threaten the integrity of the electoral process in the eye of the public. | ||
| So he is relitigating 2020 and he is making a comment that was not involved in this case. | ||
| People have a right to bring lawsuits. | ||
| In fact, Stephen, on this particular lawsuit, this is more like a public interest lawsuit. | ||
| Neither Kerry nor Mark Fincham were asking for money or damages for themselves where they had a personal financial interest in the outcome. | ||
| That is where a case of sanctions often applies. | ||
| However, in public interest litigation, which is what this is, the courts almost never sanction people because there's a public policy involved of encouraging people to take issue with public policy at through the court and to challenge law even if they lose they'd normally don't punish that that the party in public interest litigation this is very unusual and also unusual to impugn the the lawyer like that as as it does under | ||
| uh... uh... usd section twenty seven where things were imposed directly against counsel and that is highly unusual and the big judge gave it away in the end of the order where he said i'm trying to you know i'm thinking you because we don't want any more litigation about election integrity. | ||
| And that is wrong. | ||
| That should be reviewed on appeal and I hope reversed. | ||
| It's going to be, but the timing is about now, because the fight is the judge. | ||
| Hey, no to judge. | ||
| Rasmussen, every poll knows this thing in Arizona, not simply stinks to high heaven, but is illegal and illegitimate. | ||
| And Katie Hobbs is just like Biden, illegal and illegitimate. | ||
| And we're going to fight that every day. | ||
| Tom, do you have social media? | ||
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Go ahead, sir. | |
| Oh, I was going to say, and I don't know if you discussed the law on conflict of interest in Arizona, but it's a two step. | ||
| Can you hear me? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Keep going, Tom. | ||
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Okay, it's a two-step process under the Arizona Conflict of Interest law. | |
| If you are a public official charged with carrying out a duty, but you might get a financial or pecuniary gain out of it, you can't act on that matter. | ||
| You have to recuse yourself. | ||
| That's like a zoning board official who has land at issue. | ||
| You cannot vote on your own zoning appeal, right? | ||
| So, in this case, the pecuniary interest for Katie Hobbs is she has the potential for a governor's salary and a governor's job for four years. | ||
| She has a pecuniary interest. | ||
| She clearly is involved in the decision-making and is currently, metaphorically, holding a gun to the head of the supervisors saying, you will vote yes or I will have you thrown in jail or have you sued in other capacities. | ||
| And that just demonstrates the conflict here. | ||
| The remedy under Arizona law is a broad remedy. | ||
| You have to undo the action that was taken by the public official. | ||
| In this case, you'd have to have a whole new election. | ||
| I don't have any faith that a court would ever Order that under the current circumstances. | ||
| You see the kind of judging that has shown a lack of courage and enforcement of the law since 2020. | ||
| So good luck with that. | ||
| But in any event, she had a clear conflict of interest, in my opinion. | ||
| And the judge in this case on the sanctions order was clearly sending a message to people. | ||
| You will not bring litigation to challenge these election laws or you will pay the price. | ||
| Tom, how do people follow you on social media? | ||
| You're on social media at all? | ||
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Very little, but I have a Twitter, V-A-N-F-L-E-I-N. | |
| Okay, brother. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, we've got another hour and it's packed. | ||
| We're going to have coverage of Elon Musk at 6 o'clock. | ||
| He's going to put it out. | ||
| Also, they're in court right now in Arizona. | ||
| We're going to have an update on that. | ||
| We're also going to get to this Delaware situation. | ||
| There was a county in Delaware that couldn't certify because it ran out of ballots, but there's another county that went from red to blue, Delaware County. | ||
| We're going to talk about that. | ||
| Also, Crom. | ||
| I got Crom Carmichael come back from this morning. | ||
| that had such a strong outpouring. |
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