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Nov. 28, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2332: Protests Continue In The streets Of China; Lies Of Anthony Fauci
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steve bannon
17:36
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steve cortes
11:58
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anthony fauci
03:04
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ben bergquam
02:23
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jack posobiec
04:45
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natalie winters
02:12
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jake tapper
00:08
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mika brzezinski
00:19
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steve bannon
This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
Pray for our enemies.
unidentified
Because we're going medieval on these people.
steve bannon
You're not going to free shot all these networks lying about the people.
The people have had a belly full of it.
I know you don't like hearing that.
I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
It's going to happen.
jake tapper
And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
steve cortes
MAGA Media.
jake tapper
I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
unidentified
Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
steve bannon
If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
unidentified
War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
mika brzezinski
And Janice, just truly remarkable, these pictures here amid some of the protesters calling for Xi to step down.
What has been the Chinese government response to these protests?
Have they said anything, done anything?
unidentified
Silence doesn't exist on Chinese internet.
State media has not said anything except propping up the zero COVID policy saying it is the path to successfully defeating the virus.
The leadership has not said anything today at the regular Ministry of Foreign Affairs briefing.
Officials were evasive and not directly addressing either the protests or the growing anger against the zero COVID policy.
I was at the protest in Beijing last night.
It went until 2.30 in the morning.
People were holding up the pieces of paper as a protest against censorship.
They were singing the national anthem.
And I'm not sure if you'll recall, but during the Shanghai lockdown, the national anthem became such a rallying cry.
For people during the lockdown that censors banned some of the lyrics from the country's own national anthem, calling on people to rise up if they do not wish to be slaves arise, arise, arise.
So all of these themes are coming to the surface and people really feeling a sense of unity.
no matter what corner of the country that they're in, that they want to do what they can with their voices, with this sense of action to try and get some of these restrictions reduced.
And I just want to make one more quick point. When we talk about zero COVID here, what we're talking about is when there's the quarantines, there's the mass testing, there's the limits on mobility, But in China, when you get COVID, you don't take a few days off work and ride it out at home.
When you get COVID here, they track you down and they come and they take you to a hospital and they take your family.
to a quarantine center, those shipping container camps that we're seeing being built at a frantic rate.
And you stay in the system until the system says you can leave.
This is what people are frustrated with as well.
It's all of the limits on mobility.
It's businesses being forced to close down, people losing money, people losing their jobs.
But it's this sense of a loss of freedom that comes with this policy and people saying enough is enough, that it's got to change.
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
Let the flames burn a little longer.
Take it down!
The evil CCP!
steve bannon
It is Monday, 28 November, the year of our Lord, 2022.
I hope you had a amazing holiday because it's time to get to work and work all over the world from Beijing to Brazil to Maricopa County.
We're going to have it all today and including at 11 o'clock.
Mike Lindell is going to come in and report in about his.
His past three or four days of prayer and what his intentions are regarding the running for chairman of the RNC.
unidentified
So we're absolutely packed wall-to-wall today.
steve bannon
We got Ben Burkham to get to in a second.
I'm trying to get his shot.
He's at Maricopa County where they're trying to slide in early.
Ben, just hang on for one second.
I want to get to Pasovic and Cortez about this story.
This is not simply about the lockdowns, right?
Jack Pasovic, This is not just about the lockdowns.
This is about the CCP and this is about Xi.
There's something we've really never seen in the streets before.
And by the way, it's not being covered in China, just like the Brazil.
Tens of millions in the street are not being covered in Brazil.
But this is a direct assault from Shanghai, from the French concessions in Shanghai to the heart of Beijing on the CCP's totalitarian role.
And when the MSNBC correspondent who did a pretty good job said there goes a loss of freedom, these people don't have any freedom.
Everything's been taken away from.
This is about Xi, this is about the CCP, and for the first time we really heard, you know, except for the lone individual during the 20th Party Congress that put the banner up there, take down Xi, this is the first time you've seen a mass of people in various cities around the country saying Xi's got to go.
Jack Posobiec.
jack posobiec
Steve, it goes without saying, what we're witnessing now across China is the largest Mass uprising against the CCP since the events of Tiananmen Square in 1989.
Now, a lot of people have been asking me, is this larger than Tiananmen Square in 1989?
No, it is not.
Not yet, at least.
We'll see.
Right.
The Tiananmen Square uprising lasted for seven weeks, and we all know how that ended.
It ended with the tanks rolling and the bodies of students in the square.
But it also took place across the city.
And while mainstream media did, and I'll give them credit where credit's due, they did cover the events in Tiananmen Square, at least until they were kicked out.
What people don't realize is that those uprisings took place across the entire country, just like we're seeing now today.
So in places like Shanghai, where I lived, the French concession, which is right there.
By the way, only feet, just feet away from the U.S.
consulate right there in the French concession.
And that's why it was the silence that we heard.
All weekend, right up until just a few moments ago, early this morning from the Biden administration was so deafening.
It was absolutely deafening silence for the people who said that they stand up for freedom, that they stand up for democracy, that they hear this all day long, democracy, freedom, democracy, freedom, and yet no response whatsoever.
And Steve, look, we need to call this like it is.
These are the same people who supported the government of Trudeau and the crackdown against the truckers.
They're the same people who supported the government of the Netherlands in their crackdown against the farmers.
And now we get this insane statement from our White House, which doesn't really stand with the people, and it certainly doesn't oppose anything that the CCP does.
And I'll end with this, because this White House is bought and sold by the Chinese Communist Party to Biden and his criminal family.
And this is why the investigation, and I heard people saying, oh, well, you know, the house shouldn't do an investigation.
They're out of touch.
It's not relevant.
Guess what?
It's the most relevant thing in the world because that's why you're seeing a response like you do.
This non-response response from the Biden administration.
steve bannon
By the way, the administration, this regime, also hadn't said anything.
They congratulated Lula 30 seconds after they illegally put his name up.
Tens of millions.
The White House has been completely quiet on that, except that, you know, threatened to send the CIA down there to help the oligarchs and criminals.
jack posobiec
Send the CIA again.
steve bannon
In Brazil.
Send the CIA again.
And by the way, all over You know, as a funneling money, SBF and FTX money into Katie Hobbs's campaign and other sort of, they have the managed consent company that they're following.
Arizona is a mess.
We're gonna get to Burkheim a second.
I want to bring Cortez in.
By the way, not just the investigations of Hunter Biden and the laptop and all their financial arrangements, CCP.
This gets back to Fauci.
This gets back to Fauci and Wuhan.
This is all inextricably linked.
Ladies and gentlemen, do you understand the bravery of those people in Beijing and Shanghai?
They're in the streets.
Look what happened in Hong Kong when we did not have their back.
jack posobiec
And look at the young people in Wuhan as well.
Just to throw out there real quick, even the people of Wuhan as well are down there, the Laobaijing, the old hundred names, they're screaming, they're chanting, it started in Wuhan, it ends in Wuhan.
steve bannon
These guys understand.
Cortes, your analysis and assessment, sir.
steve cortes
Yes, well listen, we may be witnessing the beginning of the end of the CCP.
We certainly hope and pray that that is so, and it is, I think, not just possible, But in fact plausible.
And there would certainly be a sweet irony if the very virus that they unleashed upon the world boomerangs back to take down this despotic junta in Beijing.
When I say they unleashed it upon the world, by the way, I'm not saying necessarily that they created it.
They may have.
But whether they created it or not, we know that they knowingly infected the globe when they knew they had human-to-human transmission.
They unleashed an epidemiological dirty bomb upon the United States and the rest of the world, and it might well now be coming home to roost for the CCP itself.
I want to get to the Washington part of this, because you and Jack both mentioned this statement out from the White House is a disgrace.
This is totally milquetoast, weak sauce.
It does not condemn the regime.
It does not offer support, either symbolic or tangible, to the protesters.
Instead, what does this statement do?
It actually pivots back to the U.S.
In a very Fauci-esque way, talks about the need for more boosters and testing in the United States, rather than addressing what is going on domestically in China, the existential enemy of the United States.
So, totally weak sauce, and I would contrast that, by the way, let's put this in historical context.
Steve, contrast that with Ronald Reagan, for example, in the 1980s and the way that he spoke about the protesters in the Solidarity Movement in Poland, the way the U.S.
government broadly supported Eastern European and Russian protesters in the late 1980s all the way And again, not only symbolic support that we provide, but also tangible on-the-ground support via our intelligence services.
I hope we're doing that now, but I doubt we are, because I think the intelligence services of the United States are far more focused on harassing people like Steve Bannon and regular deplorables out there than actually attacking the enemies of the United States like the CCP.
steve bannon
No, they're focused on domestic terrorists like the people they're going to canvas in Arizona when they sent the girl and sent the letter, or parents that don't want a gender ideology crammed down their children's throats, or pants, depending on the school.
So the FBI and the intelligence services are focused on that, and they're also totally compromised.
Everything they do, everything they do regarding China's performance.
A build on Cortez's, this thing from the White House actually implies that it's not a problem with the lockdowns or what the CCP's doing, and Cortez is right, it pivots back to basically finger-pointing and shaming the American people who, even with $400 million, they can't sell additional ad campaign, they can't sell the boosters to anybody.
Jack Posovic.
jack posobiec
Well, Steve, remember, the White House is in a dangerous spot, number one, because, again, their stated policy on COVID lockdowns, on mandates, are still continuing in many sectors that they've been pushing.
Anthony Fauci, his influence over our government, his complicity in the creation of this virus, this experiment, the gain-of-function program that we believe was the precursor to COVID itself.
They have to be very careful about any discussion of what's going on in Wuhan, certainly any criticism of the CCP.
In addition, Right.
To all of the Biden family's issues with this.
Plus, if you're seeing people protest in the streets against the regime, when it comes to COVID, you're seeing now.
The people of the United States with the lockdown protests, you saw people of Canada, you saw the people of the Netherlands, you saw people in France, Belgium, all across Europe, right?
For the entire summer, uh, she lays on right.
The yellow vest, we're good.
The yellow jackets are going out.
There are so many people, but if there's one message that I would say, right, that I would have put out this morning, it would have been this.
And I would have used, and you heard the MSNBC anchor kind of mention this, the first line of the Chinese National Anthem.
Rise those who refuse to be slaves.
Arise those who refuse to be slaves.
See, the problem with running a revolutionary movement like the CCP, and they've kept the revolutionary rhetoric around for so many years, is that the revolutionary rhetoric is now being turned against them.
steve bannon
We know Wan Qishan is very concerned about the legitimacy of the CCP.
We know this from many, many sources.
One of the things he focuses on.
Jack, we've got about a minute with you, and thank you for being on here, but since you're a naval intelligence officer, you speak perfect Mandarin, what should people be looking for over the next 24 or 48 hours?
jack posobiec
Look, people need to understand.
CNN and MSNBC, they're leaving this out.
This started Because of an apartment high-rise fire that took place in Xinjiang, by the way, in Urumqi.
Those people were burned alive, men, women, children, families, by the CCP.
They couldn't get out.
They were locked in.
This is directly resulting from the zero COVID policies.
Steve, we talked about on the very first episode of War Room Pandemic, this is all about them being terrified of the theory of dynastic decline and the loss of the mandate of heaven.
And the other thing I've got to say is, hey, What a better birthday present for Stephen K. Bannon than the Lao Bai Jing of China rising up on your birthday yesterday.
steve bannon
It was amazing to spend all day just following the heroic old hunter names, Lao Bai Jing.
The people in the streets have bravery that is just awe-inspiring.
Jack Posobiec, how do people follow you during the day?
Because today and tomorrow they must, sir.
jack posobiec
Look, Steve, the Law of Beijing, they understand the stakes.
They understand Tiananmen Square even if they're not allowed to talk about it.
You're going to find me on Twitter, you're going to find me on Getter.
Tonight we're going to be doing a special, Human Events Daily, all about this, and I'm going to be, I've got like a million interviews today, so I'll be everywhere.
unidentified
Fabulous.
steve bannon
Jack Vossovec, thank you very much.
Okay, we're going to come back, we're going to Maricopa County.
Real America's Voice, Ben Burquamp is on the scene as they try to slip in this certification.
unidentified
Steve Cortez with us for the hour, next in The War Room.
We rejoice with her!
jack posobiec
Here's your host, Stephen K. Banner.
steve bannon
We're covering the world today because the world is obviously in this fight for freedom, whether it's Brazil, whether it's Beijing, Shanghai, the French concession.
By the way, I used to live for a while in the French concession.
Where this protest is starting is only yards from where the CCP actually launched Sun Yat-sen.
Was there a CCP?
It's an amazingly famous Part of Shanghai, very symbolic what happened over the weekend.
And I just want to reiterate, for all of our people in mainland China, all the Lao Beijing that watch us every day, and the brave new federal state and others here in the United States, the bravery of the Chinese people now is absolutely awe-inspiring, because the CCP is a totalitarian dictatorship that takes no prisoners.
And the brutality, you've seen this with Cardinal Zeng this week, And what's happening in, you know, our failure in Hong Kong to back the Hong Kong protesters.
These people understand.
Nobody has their back.
Nobody but the War Room and certain others.
Ben Berquam, you're in Maricopa County.
Ben, it's interesting.
You've been in Mexico.
You've followed the invasion of the southern border.
You've been all over as the top investigative reporter for Real America's Voice.
You've done a magnificent job in Arizona since 3 November of 2020.
We're here today.
They're sneaking in early.
They've called for an executive session at 8 o'clock in the morning to kind of sneak in before the public's allowed in.
At 930.
Put it in perspective for me, Ben.
ben bergquam
Yeah, Steve, it's kind of what we've come to expect.
And as you started the show with the CCP in China and the uprising that's happening over there, as Jack said, happy birthday to Steve Bannon on that one.
I had a woman come up to me just a second ago and said, I've been to China multiple times.
And what gets me is, as they're fighting for the freedoms they don't have, we're giving ours away.
That's what the stakes are right now.
That's what the battle is.
That's why you have people out here, a hundred people already, doors don't open for another hour, but they're here, they're fed up, they see what's happening here in Arizona, and they see what's happening around the world in Brazil and China, and they see the direct connection.
If we don't stand up and fight and stop this steal, stop this, what we saw in 2020 and now 2022, we're going to lose our republic.
steve bannon
Ben, this is kind of odd because I think Cochise County has already come out and said today that they're not going to certify this.
They have fundamental huge problems.
I think Mike Lindell may give us an update on that.
Huge problems about what went on about the disenfranchisement of the folks in Cochise County.
I'm hearing Mojave County may be the same way.
A lot of these rural counties are saying Maricopa County has disenfranchised us.
Why is this executive session starting at 8 a.m., which was kind of rescheduled?
Why are they having a non-public, the public can come in at 9.30 to voice their complaints and there'll be a lot more than the couple of hundred out there at the time.
Why did they start early and why are they behind closed doors?
ben bergquam
Well, I think it's clear.
It's the same reason why they didn't let us in for their press conferences after the election.
They don't want the scrutiny that the public offers or that real press offers them.
I mean, that's really the reality that's going on here.
They don't care.
They've already made their decision.
If you read that letter that they sent, that Maricopa County sent back to the AG, It's clear they don't have any desire to have transparency.
They don't have any desire to show what actually happened.
They're basically saying, pound sand, we're going to do what we want, regardless whether you like it, because nobody can stop us.
That's the message.
And the question is, can anybody stop them?
I mean, that's what the people here feel like.
They feel like 2020 was stolen.
And that's the concern, is will we have judges when Carrie Lake files her lawsuits, will we have courts that actually stand up and step in?
But what we're expecting today is Bill Gates to come out with his smug indifference and basically say, we're going to do this whether you like it or not.
And this is what this group of people is here to stand up and say, no you're not.
steve bannon
If my producer can go to my Getter account and pull the letter.
So overnight, here's some breaking developments for those that have not been following on Getter over the weekend.
Maricopa County sent a response to the blistering letter of the Attorney General, and Ben, it was kind of like, hey, we don't have time, we don't have interests, we're not going to do any of this, just go screw yourself.
I mean, it was in your face.
unidentified
Go ahead, Ben.
ben bergquam
Yeah, it was basically the same thing as the press conferences.
No one asked tough questions.
Now they finally got some tough questions asked by the AG.
They say, oh, you didn't give us enough time.
And then they go down through the statutes.
We didn't have to have every printer working.
I mean, actually, they list the statute, and then they go down and say, we didn't have to have every printer working.
We didn't disenfranchise people.
I mean, if you actually read the letter, you can see it at Gateway Pundit.
They have done an article on it.
But Kelly Ward has the letter if you go to her Twitter account.
You can read the whole thing there.
It's all over the place now.
I mean, it is so disrespectful to the voters of Arizona and really the people of America.
But again, it's more of the same of what we've come to expect from Bill Gates and this board of supervisors.
steve bannon
I put it up.
It was smug, arrogant, condescending, and disenfranchising.
Then, last night, another lawsuit was filed, really, with... We had the lawyer Sonnenclair on last week on the show.
It took a lot of what he observed as an RNC legal observer and put it into a lawsuit with other things.
From a voter.
A voter.
And had a very sophisticated, obviously, law firm draft this up.
So, people should know.
People are bombarding with affidavits.
People are bombarding with lawsuits.
This thing's just starting now to get heated up.
Ben, why don't you hang there?
We're going to come back to you in a minute, so don't leave.
I know it's a little chilly out there outside of Maricopa County and Metro Phoenix, but this is a big day.
Remember, they're doing a secret behind-the-doors reschedule thing that they did so they didn't have to face the public, I think at 9.30 local time.
That would be 11.30.
East Coast time, they'll open the doors and people will go in.
There'll be hundreds trying to get in front of the microphone today to say, hey, this thing's impossible.
And it just let me be blunt.
You look at the AG's letters, impossible to certify this.
And now you have county supervisors in these rural counties.
I want to play the Klaus Schwab piece before I bring in Steve Cortez again.
It's not all of them. Pima County's already certified, but a number of these counties are saying, hey, this thing cannot possibly be certified.
Let's play, I want to play the Klaus Schwab piece before I bring in Steve Cortez again. Let's go and play Klaus Schwab, telling us about what he thinks about the CCP, Xi, and the China model.
unidentified
On the G20, you were there meeting some of the leaders as well.
Professor Schwab, what do you make of the result?
Finally they put something as a statement, and it seems quite positive with all the voices included.
I think it's positive.
It's already positive through the fact that everybody agreed about the statement, which we haven't had the last years.
Now the base has been formed, but we have to go one step further.
We have to have a strategic mood.
We have to construct the world of tomorrow.
It's a systemic transformation of the world.
So we have to define how the world should look like, which we want to come out of this transformation period.
I respect China's achievements, which are tremendous over the last 40 years.
I think it's a role model for many countries.
But I think also we should leave it to each country to make its own decision.
steve bannon
Steve Cortes, you see, I want to connect the White House response and this horrible tweet.
And by the way, let me be blunt.
I haven't looked at the last few minutes, but for all the boys, and this is Darren Beattie, it's put the pom-poms down again.
For all the bluster that Elon Musk have and all the phony free speech absolutists, on his Twitter account, not one mention of this all weekend.
The biggest event in the world, not one mention.
Not one tweet about it.
And we're tweeting all this other crap.
You know why?
Because it's paymasters.
Are in Beijing and Shanghai.
I keep saying this until he fully discloses the ownership and the financing of the CCP and back of Binance and back of Sequoia and back of his Tesla because the thing is 99% financed by the Chinese Communist Party and he proved it this weekend.
Now, am I off base on that, Cortez?
Not one mention of anything in this world historical event.
the bravery of Lao Baijing, old hundred names, about Musk and the White House, because they essentially kowtow to the China model, which is a model of slavery of the Chinese people. Steve Cortes. Well, and regarding the White House, once it finally does sort of address the situation in China, it actually doesn't, because it doesn't mention the tyranny of the CCP.
steve cortes
The White House statement doesn't offer any support, either symbolic or tangible, to the protesters in Beijing.
Again, what did it do?
pivoted back to the United States in support of testing and booster shots for Americans.
So it's worse than milk toast. It's even worse than weak sauce. It's actually incredibly dismissive and why to connect it back with Klaus Schwab, who of course is a is almost a movie villain, a Bond movie villain. But unfortunately, he's not just in the in the pictures. He's in reality telling us who he is. You know, Maya Angelou, the American author, famously said, when somebody tells you who they are, believe them the first time.
Well, Klaus Schwab is telling us exactly who he is and what the organization that he leads, the World Economic Forum of Davos, what it intends for the globe.
And this Washington-Davos-Brussels-Beijing alliance is right now, thankfully, feeling the pressure of patriots all over the world.
So let's connect the dots.
It's the truckers in Canada.
It is the protesters right now in Phoenix who are demanding authenticity and accuracy in voting.
It's South American deplorables in Brazil who have taken to the streets en masse by the millions.
And then, maybe most importantly of all, it's this uprising in Beijing, a peaceful uprising of people who have had enough of the tyranny of the CCP.
To connect those patriotic nationalist movements across the globe, the common element, the thread here, is a revolt against The ruling class globalist tyranny that has been inflicted on the world, including on Americans, especially middle and lower income Americans, by Klaus Schwab and his agenda, as supported by the oligarchs of American businesses, especially big tech, and by the Democrat Party.
So that is the common thread here.
And it's not that surprising to me, unfortunately, That even American citizens who have oligarchic power in the United States are choosing to simply ignore what's going on in China, even though it is clearly the biggest story on the globe, on planet Earth right now.
And the White House chose to ignore it until issuing, again, this terribly inept statement regarding China.
steve bannon
Just a disgrace.
Okay, Cortez is going to stick with us.
We've got Natalie Winters.
We're going to get back to Ben Berquam.
All of them are going to talk some economics, capital markets.
unidentified
We're going to connect some dots on the homepage of Drudge.
steve bannon
All next, where?
unidentified
Only in The War Room.
We rejoice when the low fall, let's take down the CC!
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Let me go to, I want to go to Colonel John Mills.
Colonel, you brought something to my attention that is stunning and it shows the complicity of American, of the global corporatists, particularly the companies domiciled in the United States that enjoy the protections of the United States.
Apple dropped, shut down the airdrop, which allowed the protesters to communicate each other when they're right next to each other.
Explain what happened.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
This is the beauty of network-enabled warfare.
The CCP just simply makes a simple call to Apple.
Apple, just in their network environment, just says, OK, we're going to turn off the airdrop feature.
And in the tactical data sharing among the citizens, this is huge.
steve bannon
I lost John.
Okay, fine.
Let me go to Steve Cortez.
Cortez, walk us through, connect that to the plant.
They have a plant they've admitted now to the public shareholders, the slave labor camp.
Remember, two things kind of started this.
One was the slave labor camp at their plant.
of which you had the protesters did the breakout, the other was welding the apartment shut, they had the fire that killed the 10 people.
Connect those dots to what they did in... because airdrop is when you're right next to somebody, hey here it is, boom, airdrop, boom.
steve cortes
Connect the dots, sir. Right, and allowing these Chinese patriots to share information, right, so that they can organize their peaceful and brave protest against the abusive CCP. Look, there was a time, Steve, regarding big business, there was a time in America when there was a phrase that that was very common that what's good for General Motors is good for America.
And that was actually largely true because big businesses were guided not just by profits, but also by patriotic responsibility to the country.
We have the exact opposite situation right now, where big businesses, not only are they not patriots, they are in fact fully enmeshed with the Chinese Communist Party.
And because of that alliance with the Chinese Communist Party, big business primarily act antithetically to the interests of the United States.
And we see that in a very specific case right here, where Apple is literally acting against not just the interests of the United States, But also acting against the interests of these brave freedom fighters in China.
Why?
Because Apple is totally beholden to the CCP.
And that is the unfortunate and sad reality.
Now, what do we do about that from a policy perspective?
Well, when these companies will no longer act patriotically, we have to punish them.
unidentified
We have to punish them financially with policy.
steve cortes
They should be facing harsh financial sanctions for offshoring, for acting the manner that Apple is right now.
That's the reality.
And I hope that this incoming JCP house realizes the immediacy of what's going on and the urgency of the situation.
steve bannon
Footage up.
Let me have it.
Go ahead.
Can we play?
I want Denver to play footage.
I love Steve Cortez's lovely visage and mine, of course.
Another year older and yet another year wiser.
But let's play some footage.
This is television.
Walk me through.
There we go.
Okay.
Let me have Cortez on a split screen.
That's fine.
I'll direct this if you want.
unidentified
Steve, this is the issue.
steve bannon
You've got a White House that's complicit.
You've got corporations that are complicit.
You've got the global elites that are complicit.
Nobody's standing up for Lao Bajing right now, except for War Room and some of the patriots here in the United States, that understand how these dots connect.
steve cortes
Right.
Well, and by the way, in terms of connecting the dots, let's also connect this to the economy, both in China and here in the United States, because these protests are, of course, erupting primarily because of the tyranny of the CCP and what it has done via these just vicious lockdowns to the Chinese people.
But clearly, also feeding the anxiety of Chinese citizens is a massively weakening economy, but particularly there in China.
And to prove this point, if we can pull up a chart I'd like to show shipping rates.
And this is shipping rates from Shanghai to Los Angeles.
Perhaps the most important shipping route in the entire world right now.
Those shipping rates during the lockdowns, of course, tanked.
They then, because of pent-up demands in late 2020, started to absolutely soar.
They catapulted higher.
But what has happened in recent months?
Shipping rates for a container across the ocean from Shanghai to Los Angeles have absolutely collapsed.
And chart one shows that it's actually now about one-sixth the price to ship a container, 40-foot container, from Shanghai to Los Angeles as it was just a matter of months ago.
Now, there are two reasons for this. On the U.S. side, on our side of the Pacific, the U.S. consumer is massively weakened because of Joe Biden's inflation. And we know this by a variety of metrics, including consumer confidence, also exploding credit card debts.
So, the U.S.
consumer is largely tapped.
So, a lack of demand on this side of the Pacific.
On the Chinese side of the Pacific, it's disastrous zero COVID policy has meant a tremendous halt, if not, you know, difficulty, if not halt, on the Chinese side of the Pacific.
All of that resulting, those two forces together, resulting shipping rates Absolutely collapsing.
So the economic is also very much part of this protest, this burgeoning protest, this freedom movement, what we hope is ultimately going to be a revolutionary populist movement in China against the CCP.
steve bannon
Can we pull up, if Denver can pull up that chart just one more time.
I want to make sure you explain this to our podcast, our enormous podcast and radio audience that's not watching on the streaming services at Real America's Voice or Go To These Others.
Walk them through what that chart shows because then I'm going to put up the Drudge front page and we're going to connect some dots.
This is why this lame duck is so important.
You're about to see a 2023 that ain't going to start off well as far as the economy goes, Steve Cortez.
Explain the depth of what that means.
Let's go down range.
When the shipping containers drop in a free fall like that, what does it mean?
steve cortes
Right.
No, and this is important, by the way.
So that is a chart of the rate to ship a container, 40-foot container, the standard shipping metric for the world, from Shanghai to the Los Angeles port, from the busiest ports in the world to the busiest port in the United States.
That chart goes back just over 10 years.
Now, you saw a massive spike in late 2020.
Why?
Because there was so much pent-up demand because of the lockdowns globally, including here in the United States.
So because of that demand, you saw a very unnatural spike.
And it would actually be, Steve, a good thing for that number to very gradually, the container rate to very gradually come back down to a more normal rate.
But we didn't see that.
Instead, we've seen a collapse, which is even more violent than the previous ascent in shipping rates.
And this collapse, again, is happening because on the US side of the Pacific, we have a consumer that is completely in a corner because of Biden's inflation, a consumer that is tapped and spent.
On the Chinese side, you have massive problems with production, with producing these goods because of the zero COVID tyranny of the Chinese Communist Party.
So the trend, anyone looking at the chart can see the trend is not our friend right now.
The trend projects that we are going to have a terrible 2023 after a very poor 2022 economically in the world, including here in the United States.
So to your point, Steve, the urgency for the incoming House GOP, Urgency is cute.
It is intense.
We really, I mean, more than I can even express, we need the House GOP to address the economic crisis that deepens in this country, and in fact in the world, most of it caused by the terrible economic mismanagement of Joe Biden, as reflected in that chart.
steve bannon
I want to put up, I want to put up, can we put up the Drudge Mac Daddy and get that at Denver?
Yeah, thank you.
I want you, Steve, look at this audience and explain to our podcast audience what we're looking at here of Drudge, both the Mac Daddy, which is always the one above the Drudge hand line, but then in the upper left where he puts a mini stack.
I want you to kind of give the audience what they are and then connect dots for me.
unidentified
Sure.
steve cortes
Well, listen, what's important here, I think, is even Drudge, which is a website that used to be really valuable, not so much anymore, especially if you're of our philosophical bent.
It is anything but MAGA or America First or populist nationalists.
But even Drudge here recognizes the risks to the global economy.
What we have going on right now Steve, for the first time, it's literally never happened since China emerged as a major economic power two decades ago because of the Washington Uniparty insistence that it be allowed into the WTO, the World Trade Organization, on terms that were incredibly beneficial to China and terrible for American workers.
Since that time, we have not had a recession in all major economies in the world at once, meaning Europe, The United States and China, all three economic centers of the world right now, in synchronicity, are crashing into the economic ditch.
And the risks of that confluence, the risks are hard to overstate.
I mean, here's the reality, Steve.
We frankly don't know exactly where it projects because it hasn't happened before.
But I think we can very reasonably determine that it's going to be terrible, that the fallout is going to be significant.
That we enter this recession, unfortunately, in an already extremely weakened state because of the mismanagement of Joe Biden.
So both from an economic and a geostrategic perspective, the risks are rising in a world that becomes ever more volatile.
You know, I've said this before on your show, Steve, I think, you know, volatility Volatility is the watchword, politically and economically.
Volatility has risen dramatically.
There's every indication from the data and evidence that it's going to continue to rise apace from here.
These are going to continue to be incredibly volatile times, volatile markets, volatile economic statistics, volatile politics.
steve bannon
And this is why, you know, people are going to have to take a stand here and make a decision.
Remember, let's go back how we got here, how we get to the China model.
When Tiananmen Square happened, which as Pacific said, built up over six, seven weeks, had Lady Liberty out there.
It was brutally crushed by Deng Xiaoping and the elites in China.
And by the way, tens of thousands of deaths throughout the country, not the thousand they talk about just in Tiananmen.
Brent Scowcroft and Bush 41, they told the CCP, we got your back, right?
We got your back.
We want you to be the manufacturing powerhouse.
Only a couple of years later did the Clinton and Bob Rubin group, along with the Bushes, give them most favored nation, World Trade Organization, what, seven or eight years later.
The last time the Chinese people rose up, it was the US government, along with all their global partners, that told the CCP, which was about to collapse, that we have your back.
And then allowed them, they actually were the co-partners in building the China model for the slave labor in China.
That's how we got the world situation we have today.
Is that not correct, Steve Cortez?
steve cortes
No, it's 100% correct.
And by the way, let me contrast that with our intervention in Ukraine.
What I mean by that is I get criticized quite a bit for talking so much about the CCP.
And some folks who are very America first, perhaps even isolationist in terms of foreign policy criticize me for being adventurous or neocon.
Not at all.
Okay, my point is Ukraine is immaterial to the United States and that conflict would not matter if we would actually just leave it alone.
But what happens in China matters enormously for the United States.
Because of the degree to which, you're exactly right, the degree to which the U.S.
ruling class completely sold out to the Chinese Party, Communist Party, and in doing so, eviscerated the production capacity of the American people, particularly American industrial workers.
So it matters enormously to the domestic prosperity and health of the United States directly.
steve bannon
Bingo.
Okay, we're taking a short break.
We're going to come back and we're going to add another piece to this.
Tony Fauci.
He did his valedictorian tour yesterday of the Sunday talk shows.
We have Natalie Winter, Steve Cortez.
I have a few observations and comments on all of that.
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anthony fauci
They've clearly politicized it.
They say that I'm not political at all, period.
I've never been, and anybody who knows anything about me knows that that's the case.
But it is very clear when people are running their campaigns with an anti-Fauci element to it.
I mean, that's ridiculous.
I mean, this is a public health issue.
So, yeah, it's going to keep going, likely much more geared towards me.
I mean, it's obviously a political issue.
I'm not going to get involved.
I didn't get involved before in the politics, and I'm not going to get involved.
unidentified
So, coming out of the holidays, should parents expect schools to shut down?
anthony fauci
I don't know, Margaret.
I'm not sure.
When you talk about shutting down schools, there's always the collateral effect.
unidentified
That's also radioactive.
anthony fauci
Exactly.
There's always the collateral issue.
So you have to balance, and you do it in real time, depending upon the viral load of disease in your region.
Whether, you know, the Upper Northeast may be quite different from the Southwest, from the Pacific Coast, from the Upper Northwest.
So you have to have the local authorities evaluate, on a situation-by-situation basis, the potential collateral deleterious effects with the effects of what might happen if you have so many kids getting infected.
What happens is that if you look at the anti-China approach that clearly the Trump administration had right from the very beginning, and the accusatory nature, the Chinese are going to flinch back and say, no, I'm sorry, we're not going to talk to you about it, which is not correct.
unidentified
But they're not talking to the Biden administration about it either.
anthony fauci
Exactly.
I think that horse is out of the barn and they're very suspicious of anybody trying to accuse them.
We need to have an open dialogue with their scientists and our scientists.
Keep the politics out of it and let the scientists, because these are scientists that we've known for decades, that the Chinese, not necessarily the scientists that we know and we have dealt with and collaborated with
Productively for decades, but the whole establishment of political and other establishment in China, even when there's nothing at all to hide, they act secretive, which absolutely triggers an appropriate suspicion of like, what the heck is going on over there?
So right now, what we would really like to know is all of the details of what went on with the original people who were infected.
We keep a completely open mind as to what the origin is.
Having said that, if you look at the examination, By highly qualified international scientists with no political agendas.
They've published in peer-reviewed journals that the evidence is quite strong that this is a natural occurrence.
Does that mean we've ruled out that there was something funny going on, a leak?
Absolutely.
And I and all of my colleagues keep an absolutely open mind.
We've got to investigate every possibility because this is too important not to do that.
steve bannon
By the way, CBS and NBC beclown themselves even more.
I mean, that was a disgraceful.
He's a pathological liar.
How dumb does he think we are?
Natalie Winters.
I mean, we got the receipts.
This whole thing about the early stages of Trump being anti-China.
I mean, he spent months.
The emails are there.
He spent months trying to cover up what he had done.
Natalie, this speaks so much to the problems we have in this country.
And this is why the media's approval rating is, I don't know, 10-11%.
She sits there like a bump in the log, nodding her head.
Not one tough question, not one tough follow-on.
Natalie Winters.
natalie winters
So the entire interview is about 20 to 30 minutes and I had such difficulty pulling some of the best clips from Anthony Fauci because really the entire interview is just an effort to, I think, really whitewash the sins of Fauci's actions at the NIH.
But of those highlights that we pulled, I think it's really interesting.
I love the framing of it, how he begins the interview claiming that he's not political and that he never has been.
But then he goes on to not only make obviously very political statements about the Republican Party and Trump and the anti-China movement and school lockdowns, but he also sort of reveals that his entire COVID calculus in terms of uncovering the origins was political in the sense that he didn't want to offend the Chinese Communist Party.
The same Chinese Communist Party, which you can see there's a moment where he says, you know, we've been partners with them for years, but then he sort of realizes what he says, so he takes a step back and he says, these are the ones that we've collaborated, quote, productively with, you know, not the politicians, not the regime itself.
But that right there is saying the quiet part out loud.
We know that Anthony Fauci has really been the leading voice leading the crusade over at NIAID to collaborate with the Chinese Communist Party, not just in Wuhan, but really all these labs across the country.
But I think this is the final interview.
I mean, I've obviously known this for a while, but it's so in your face.
And I really think that it solidifies that Anthony Fauci should go, I think down really in the trash bin of history, really is another figure in DC who's just like a lot of these people who kind of reared their ugly heads during the first impeachment of Donald Trump, right?
The Alexander Vindman's, the Marie Yovanovitch types who love to masquerade under this false pretense and this false facade of non-partisanship and not being political actors, but they have an agenda.
And in the case of Anthony Fauci, as he said, it was to cover for the Chinese Communist Party, but also on the political side of things, really to undercut Donald Trump because he did not like that he took a quote, anti-China approach.
steve bannon
Yeah.
Hang on for a second.
May I ask you, and Cortez, please, I know you're busy, but just stay through to the next break because I want to get your assessment and I want to get back to you on that.
It's so important.
Let me be blunt.
If Fauci had been truly a man of science and truly a man in a search for truth, the individuals that burned to death, welded into that apartment complex would have never happened.
This would have all been outed in the CCP.
The sins of the CCP would have all come to light.
Back in 2020 and 2021.
It's inextricably linked.
Those Chinese patriots on the street, they're all going to be rounded up and put in prison, okay?
That's on Anthony Fauci.
And the people that were burned alive, welded into because of the severe lockdowns, that's on Fauci too.
That lion scumbag, okay, is at the heart of much of what has happened here because he didn't, he was a chief science advisor, he did not come forward and say what he knew about the gain of function, about Wuhan lab, about the gun decking by the Chinese officials, all of it.
And the truth about lockdowns, masks, vaccine, all of it.
All of it.
And it's all coming out.
This is the great fight ahead of us.
Okay?
Fauci, you ain't seen nothing yet.
You ain't seen nothing yet.
Short break, 90 seconds.
Natalie Winters, Steve Cortez are gonna stick around for a few minutes.
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