Nov. 24, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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The primal scream of a dying regime. | |
| Pray for our enemies. | ||
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Because we're going medieval on these people. | |
| President Trump got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. | ||
| The people have had a belly full of it. | ||
| I know you don't like hearing that. | ||
| I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. | ||
| It's going to happen. | ||
| And where do people like that go to share the big lie? | ||
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MAGA Media. | |
| I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. | ||
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? | |
| If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved! | ||
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War Room, here's your host, Stephen K. Babb. | |
| Children, the sun and the wind and the rain The color of blue in your sweet eyes, the sight of a high ball and train. | ||
| The moonrise over a prairie, an old love that you've made new. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Thanksgiving morning as you go about going to your family and friends gathering, many of you going to church services. | ||
| Larry, what did the pilgrims and the Puritans, for a relatively small group numerically, what did they stamp upon the American character that informs us today, centuries later? | ||
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Easy, that the relationship with God was a bottom-up relationship. | |
| It could not be dictated by bishops or popes or viziers or anybody else, and that your organizations that worship God had to be from the people. | ||
| And that, as we went out and saw numerous new denominations appear, especially in the early 1800s, like the Methodists, for example, that this became The common approach to almost everything. | ||
| Most of these were, in fact, grassroots. | ||
| There were a few, like the American Presbyterian Church, that were still top-down. | ||
| But this is really a democratic church to go with a common law, which was a democratic government. | ||
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And those two things made us a feisty people. | |
| I'm convinced it's a difference between what we have and, you know, Steve, You and I and others have talked about how easy it was for Canada and Australia and so-called democracies to just lock down. | ||
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And I'd have friends go, how can they do this? | |
| Aren't these democracies? | ||
| Well, yes, they're democracies, but they don't have those pillars of American exceptionalism that say, no, power isn't from top down. | ||
| Power is from bottom up. | ||
| And they do what we tell them, not the reverse. | ||
| Now, sometimes they get away with it for a little while. | ||
| But not for very long. | ||
| And you think that's just the natural, I don't want to say, cussedness? | ||
| But really belief in oneself and one's relationship to God. | ||
| And that's a one-on-one relationship from you to him or it or however you describe it. | ||
| But that is what brings us, not just individuality, because it's not really libertarian at the end of the day, it has a strong sense of community. | ||
| But that kind of, that cussedness rolls through, you see it in the revolution. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You later see it in the Civil War. | ||
| Is that still with us today? | ||
| Do you see that? | ||
| Is this the burning embers that... I don't want to politicize things too much on a Thanksgiving morning, but is that what this fight is about today? | ||
| With the Pilgrims? | ||
| Uh, brought here and, uh, uh, is about individualism and, and, and standing up for oneself and what one thinks is morally, um, uh, right, uh, to, to stand up that you think that's what you thought, whether it's the mass mandates or the shutdowns or the lockdowns or the vaccine mandates, this kind of the honoriness and what the mainstream media and the elite | ||
| Absolutely hate is the the non sheeple the non sheep nature of this kind of populist Trump movement Well, you know, let me start with you mentioned the revolution and this this feeling this Permeated the whole revolution that that your relationship to God was critical and that your right to freely choose how to worship was very important and | ||
| One thing that people forget, it's easily overlooked, is that in the so-called intolerable acts after the Boston Tea Party, when they locked down Boston, one of the big acts that almost never gets any mention or press was that it moved America, the colonies of America, under the organizational supervision of Quebec. | ||
| Now, the reason that was doubly bad was that, first of all, it was a foreign source in charge of American operations, not American colonies. | ||
| But second of all, Quebec was a Catholic colony at the time. | ||
| And many of these people, not all of them because we had Catholic Maryland, but it's very interesting, Steve, even in Catholic Maryland, they had a very bottom-up structure in their churches and they did not take direct orders from the Pope the way others in Europe They were quite rebellious. | ||
| And it didn't take long before Maryland had so few Catholics that Protestants dominated the community anyway. | ||
| So the point is that there was this order that all of a sudden puts this vast number of American Protestants under the Catholic Church. | ||
| That wasn't going to stand. | ||
| So as we move forward, into our current history, yes, there is this individualistic strain. | ||
| And I think, you know, we just had an election, and people, I think, were surprised that Governor Whitmer in Michigan won, that the administration of the wolf in Pennsylvania, a different governor, but it's his administration, won, that Evers in Wisconsin won, and that Mike DeWine in Ohio won. | ||
| Why do these all have in common? | ||
| They're all big lockdown states. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| You go to the other end of the country and you have Brian Kemp, you have Ron DeSantis, you have Kristi Noem. | ||
| These states all rejected the lockdowns early on, and you have guys like DeSantis winning by 20 points, Noem by 27 points. | ||
| So what's going on? | ||
| And one analysis I saw of this is that today there is a very definite Division caused in large part by COVID. | ||
| And that was those in America who think that the government exists to keep them safe and protect their lives. | ||
| And those who think the government exists to keep them free and let them make their own decisions. | ||
| And I think that's very clear in how people voted to keep in such what I think are horrible politicians like Gretchen Whitmer. | ||
| Before we move to Lincoln and move the story forward, the Norman Rockwell concept of Thanksgiving, from the greeting cards and all the, you know, everything feels like Stockbridge, Massachusetts with the beautiful leaves and the full bountiful, you know, from the Norman Rockwell paintings, the bountiful tables with turkey and everybody getting ready to eat the cranberry sauce. | ||
| How much of that, how did that evolve over time to be the modern concept of looking back of what Thanksgiving was for the pilgrims? | ||
| Because clearly it wasn't like that for the pilgrims themselves, although they had a surplus, they were still, you know, they were still somewhat, what it says, subsistence farmers, right, for a while. | ||
| When did Hallmark and Norman Rockwell come in? | ||
| They were going to have a lot of things you won't see on most Thanksgiving tables, like eels and a lot of crabs and fish. | ||
| Remember, they were a coastal community and they were going to have a lot of seafood there. | ||
| You know, I can't pinpoint when we started to see a transition to this. | ||
| You do mention Rockwell. | ||
| And it's interesting that in Patriot's History, Mike and I highlight Norman Rockwell as the American painter. | ||
| And it drives liberals crazy. | ||
| They hate Norman Rockwell. | ||
| Because he never pulled punches and he didn't abstain from pointing out injustices as he did with the picture of the black schoolgirl with the marshals. | ||
| But nevertheless, he always saw the best in America. | ||
| This drives people crazy when they want to highlight the dark side, the Andy Warhol kind of side of America. | ||
| But yes, it is. | ||
| Today, we kind of see these pictures. | ||
| And I think today, because we've seen the pictures, that's what we expect to see on the table. | ||
| And I don't know about you, but I grew up and one part of Thanksgiving was always the Dallas Cowboys football game, right? | ||
| Detroit Lions and Dallas Cowboys. | ||
| And so it's all become a part of this kind of National mystique that you don't see in any other country. | ||
| No other country has a day that they just dedicate to God to thank him for getting them out of the wilderness. | ||
| That had really, although it took place in the Plymouth colonies, the story cuts ahead till, what is it, Lincoln. | ||
| It was during the Civil War that it started to become really a national holiday or really a thing. | ||
| Up until that time, it was in our civic memory, but maybe not as an annual occurrence. | ||
| Tell us how it got onto the calendar and how it became something that it is the holiday that we see today. | ||
| Well, it comes down to Gettysburg. | ||
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| You know, in Lincoln's life, Gettysburg proved so pivotal in so many ways. | ||
| And I want to talk in just a minute when we get done with this about how it changed Lincoln personally in terms of his Christian experience. | ||
| But after Gettysburg, Lincoln was so profoundly moved by the cost that was being paid to keep the Union together. | ||
| And again, this was his only goal, keep the Union together. | ||
| And so in October, of 1863, he decided that the nation should have a day of Thanksgiving in November, that he designated Thursday in November, that we today now celebrate as Thanksgiving. | ||
| And it was as much in honor of the fallen at Gettysburg as it was in honor of any particular other Thanksgiving in the nation. | ||
| So it's kind of interesting how he Tied the two together, the Civil War and America's founding. | ||
| Talk to us about that. | ||
| How did he come up with the idea? | ||
| Because it was going to be a day of national Thanksgiving. | ||
| Did they actually hearken back, even at that time, to the founding of the nation? | ||
| Did that inform the Gettysburg Address, which basically took place the week before, on the 19th, I believe, of November, when he went to the actual cemetery himself? | ||
| It's really important to understand Uh, the greatness of Lincoln. | ||
| I know there's a lot of libertarians that don't like Lincoln because of his war, um, administration and, and how, uh, quasi dictatorial he was. | ||
| And his answer to that was always, my goal is to keep the union together. | ||
| And if the people don't like it, they can vote me out. | ||
| Um, but at the Gettysburg address, Lincoln did something that virtually no other president, uh, had done. | ||
| And that was he tied together explicitly the Declaration and the Constitution. | ||
| And that is he said that the Constitution had to be dedicated to a proposition. | ||
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The Constitution is no good if it's not dedicated to a proposition. | |
| This is why so many written constitutions around the world are useless. | ||
| They're not dedicated to any proposition. | ||
| But ours was dedicated. | ||
| To the proposition that our Creator made man with certain unalienable rights, and among these were the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. | ||
| That is the purpose for which the Constitution exists, to guarantee those founding rights in the Declaration. | ||
| So, in a sense, Lincoln is passing that forward, and he's saying, alright, so we're going back to the Revolution? | ||
| And then we're going back to the Constitution and now with this great war we have, we're going to pay tribute forward with Thanksgiving for all those things that we've gotten up to this time. | ||
| It's pretty genius the way He tied all these together. | ||
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| Larry, hang on for one second. | ||
| It's our Thanksgiving special. | ||
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| We're going to be back with our Thanksgiving special with Larry Schweiker, the co-author of The Patriot's History of the United States. | ||
| The Lord He made you. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| you This year when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord He made you. | ||
| And when the time comes to be going, It won't be in sorrow and tears, I'll kiss you, the color of blue, in your sweet eyes, the sight of a high ball and train. | ||
| The moonrise over a prairie, an old love that you've made new. | ||
| And this year when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord he made you. | ||
| It's Thursday, the 24th of November in the year of our Lord, 2022. | ||
| It's our Thanksgiving special, drawn by Larry Schweikert, the co-author of The Patriot's History of the United States. | ||
| Of course, many other books, but it was a seminal work. | ||
| Fifth edition, 34th printing. | ||
| And I think Larry's got a lot more books in him than I know he's working on. | ||
| Larry, you know, it's interesting. | ||
| They had set up Thanksgiving to be the last Thursday I think or the fourth Thursday at that time. | ||
| I know they had to shift it. | ||
| But and he had the Gettysburg Address at night at I think the week before is on the 19th. | ||
| And of course the battle was the first with the second the first second and third of July. | ||
| It's interesting to talk about divisions in the country and I've said this I think once in the show and a couple times in speeches. | ||
| You talk about divisions in the country and how divided the country was, you know, and they're obviously they're fighting a great civil war. | ||
| And by 1863, they knew they were into it, that this thing was not going to end quickly and it was not going to end without a lot of blood. | ||
| But even the divisions within Washington and the divisions in the government and the divisions between the military and the government and factions in the military. | ||
| People at each other's throats, and I always use a specific example. | ||
| When they relieved Hooker after Chancellorsville, and Lincoln had just had enough, and he relieved Hooker. | ||
| They had a huge debate about who was going to take the command, and they finally made a decision after a late-night discussion, and they selected George Gordon Meade and Gordon to take over the Army of the Potomac. | ||
| This time Lee's already coming up through Maryland into Pennsylvania, and they're swinging around. | ||
| What they're trying to do is hit Philadelphia and cause chaos in New York City and Philadelphia, and surround Washington, D.C., Baltimore. | ||
| And they're heading to the Susquehanna River and Harrisburg, the capital. | ||
| And their advance guards, I think, Jubal Early and other units are already well ahead, well past Gettysburg. | ||
| And they make a decision. | ||
| And Meade is a Corps commander, and he's in his tent. | ||
| I think it's one or two o'clock in the morning. | ||
| And he wrote a memoir that he put a letter in that he written his wife the day after he assumed command or a couple of days after he assumed command. | ||
| And when the when the adjutant came to his tent at one in the morning and kind of, you know, knocked on it and pulled back the thing to wake Meade up. | ||
| And Meade, I think, was only the first corps was only, I think, 30 or 40 miles from from the town of Gettysburg, the crossroads right there. | ||
| But he was just corps commander. | ||
| And they came in. | ||
| As he got out of bed and put his feet on the floor, he told his wife, the very first thought that went through his mind is that he was being placed under arrest. | ||
| That he was going to be placed under arrest. | ||
| Because the tensions were so strong, the backbiting was so strong, they were so divided. | ||
| Because quite frankly, they had just had the tables run on them over and over and over again. | ||
| And Lincoln had come to wit's end. | ||
| George Gordon Meade did not want command of the Army of the Potomac. | ||
| At all. | ||
| He accepted it that on the spot. | ||
| It basically Lincoln signed and was an order. | ||
| It wasn't asking you. | ||
| Hey, come to Washington. | ||
| Let's have a meeting and talk about it. | ||
| They basically gave him the command right there and gave him a command to say, hey, there's an invasion going on and you have to stop it. | ||
| It shows you that was less than six months. | ||
| It's five and a half months until a day of National Thanksgiving on this great And I think that that speech, and the reason, remember the speech, you had the famous orator, Who really, at Gettysburg, the dedication, he was there, I think it was Everett, was one of the great orators of the day. | ||
| His speech at Gettysburg was almost three hours long, I think it was. | ||
| Two hours long. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| He was the major thing to dedicate. | ||
| And he predicated, he based his upon Pericles' Speech to the Athenians about the Athenian war dead. | ||
| In fact, wherever it went through the entire battle and tied it back. | ||
| And if you read every speech, it's very powerful now. | ||
| It's very long for for current sensibilities, but he takes a very classic structure of probably the most famous speech or one of the most famous speeches. | ||
| In the Judeo-Christian West, and particularly in our tradition of liberty and democracy and freedom, this great speech that Pericles gave about the Athenian war dead and what they had died to defend. | ||
| Edwards said the same thing. | ||
| And yet, Edwards not remembered at all. | ||
| Lincolns was really an afterthought. | ||
| In fact, he was scribbling. | ||
| He stayed at the hotel right there in the square, but he was scribbling up to the On the train on the way up to kind of his thoughts on it. | ||
| He had thought about it a lot reflected, but I think his speech correct me if I'm wrong is less than three minutes long and it captures not just the entire concept of the war, but really ties the the the nation back to its founding and founding really the pilgrims and obviously the revolution and all the great documents, but that is and then he decides right before then. | ||
| You should have a national day of Thanksgiving. | ||
| That, is that Thanksgiving? | ||
| Did that, obviously only a northern tradition, a northern tradition at the time, was that embraced by people immediately thereafter? | ||
| Is that we have to have a day of, a continual day of Thanksgiving to give Thanksgiving to God, to thank God? | ||
| It was a little tougher in the South. | ||
| You know, the story that in the Spanish-American War, they had to appoint Governor, or Governor General Wheeler, who was really quite old at the time and was a Confederate general in order to kind of unify the nation behind the war. | ||
| And it was a great shock to everybody when the U.S. | ||
| troops on trains were going through the South to get down to Tampa to depart for the Spanish-American War in Cuba, that the people were coming out cheering them. | ||
| These were people who had hated the Yankee soldiers just a few years earlier. | ||
| But I'm going to take this a slightly different direction, you know. | ||
| Lincoln captures, he's going through these changes, and with the Gettysburg Address, he captures a change in the national thrust, the direction. | ||
| Because at that time, Despite the fact that we had had an incredible victory, a union had an incredible victory at Gettysburg and at Vicksburg the following day, July 4th, Lee got away and his army got away. | ||
| And, you know, I thought you were going to say something to the effect of, look at how many generals Lincoln went through. | ||
| Because he goes through five or six generals and it was very political. | ||
| He's constantly fighting against all these congressmen and other military guys who want the job. | ||
| You've got to put my guy in charge. | ||
| It reminded me a lot of Trump and how President Trump was backstabbed constantly. | ||
| But it happened in Lincoln's time, too. | ||
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But the point I wanted to make... Yeah, I did forget to add that Meade was fired. | |
| Meade was essentially relieved for cause six months later because he did not crush the army in Northern Virginia after Gettysburg. | ||
| He didn't destroy the army, which is what Lincoln... He had him pinned against the river. | ||
| He had him pinned against the river, and a storm came in and made it impassable for them. | ||
| All he had to do was move in, and he would have finished them off. | ||
| But the point I wanted to make is that Lincoln was also going through a personal growth during this time, spiritually. | ||
| And he had been quite a believer in his youth. | ||
| As you know, he studied the Bible when he would plow fields and things. | ||
| And no president has ever written using more biblical phrases and biblical phraseology than Abraham Lincoln has. | ||
| But in his 20s, early 20s, mid-20s. | ||
| He not only departed, he became quite hostile to the Christian faith to the point that he was saying that they were a bunch of charlatans and so on and so forth. | ||
| What happens is that by the time the Civil War arrives, he's starting to move back to the Christian faith. | ||
| And while all this turmoil is going on, he's wondering, are we the Union going to win this war? | ||
| Is God on our side? | ||
| Is God on their side? | ||
| Whose side is God on? | ||
| He's going through a personal transformation. | ||
| And so I wanted to read this very short passage where he was talking to an Illinois clergyman and the clergyman said, do you love Jesus? | ||
| And Lincoln said, when I left Springfield, I asked the people to pray for me. | ||
| I was not a Christian. | ||
| When I buried my son, the severest trial of my life, I was not a Christian. | ||
| But when I went to Gettysburg and I saw the graves of those thousands of our soldiers, I then and there consecrated myself to Christ. | ||
| Yes, I love Jesus. | ||
| So, Lincoln not only was going through national political turmoil at that time, he was going through personal spiritual turmoil, where he was wrestling with, am I going to surrender? | ||
| Larry, hang on for a second, because I've never, give me that one again. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I actually didn't know that. | ||
| I pride myself in knowing a lot about Lincoln. | ||
| Being from Richmond, Virginia, Lincoln and Lee are so giants when you're growing up. | ||
| Give me about a minute. | ||
| Can you read that section? | ||
| The phrase again is a clergyman from Illinois asked him, do you love Jesus? | ||
| And he said, when I went to Springfield, I asked the people to pray for me. | ||
| I was not a Christian. | ||
| When I buried my son, the severest trial of my life, I was not a Christian. | ||
| But when I went to Gettysburg and I saw the graves of thousands of our soldiers, I then and there consecrated myself to Christ. | ||
| Yes, I love Jesus. | ||
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And I can get you the footnote for that. | |
| Wow. | ||
| I tell you what, let's take a break. | ||
| We're going to come back. | ||
| I want to come up to the current time, talk about the customs, traditions. | ||
| Have we lost? | ||
| We talk about losing the meaning of Christmas. | ||
| Have we lost the true meaning of Thanksgiving and all the hustle and bustle? | ||
| Larry Schweikert, the author of the seminal work, Patriot's History of the United States. | ||
| Fifth edition, 34th printing. | ||
| Not too shabby. | ||
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It's been in constant print since the day they came out with it. | |
| Short commercial break. Back in a moment. | ||
| I'm grateful for the laughter of children. | ||
| The sun and the wind and the rain. | ||
| rain. | ||
| you The color of blue in your sweet eyes. | ||
| The sight of a high ball and train. | ||
| The moon rise over a prairie. | ||
| An old love that you've made new. | ||
| And this year when I count my blessings. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We're in the War Room. | ||
| It's our traditional Thanksgiving special. | ||
| Larry Sweikart. | ||
| So it was Gettysburg that changed Lincoln, you're saying, fundamentally, to his core, to where he accepted not just Christianity or the concept of Christianity, or even being a deist, but because you've seen his writings about divine providence, but really accepted Christ as his Savior and dedicated himself to Christ. | ||
| Is that, you think, also informs his wanting to have the Day of Thanksgiving later? | ||
| I have to think so. | ||
| I have to think that for the first time he was believing that we have an obligation to try to do the right thing even if we lose. | ||
| You know, there's that great line in Lord of the Rings where Gandalf and one of the hobbits is standing on the parapets and they're looking at this massive orc army and the hobbit looks up at him and he goes, So, you know, are we going to win? | ||
| And Gandalf says, no, probably not. | ||
| We're probably going to die. | ||
| He says, but sometimes these are the kinds of battles that are the best to fight. | ||
| These are the ones you must fight. | ||
| And I think, really, Lincoln didn't know how things were going to turn out then. | ||
| People forget that a year after Gettysburg, some of the worst bloodletting in the entire Civil War occurred with Battle of the Crater and Some of the other attacks around the trench works at Richmond, just horrific bloodshed. | ||
| And Cold Harbor, for example. | ||
| So it was another year of solid combat before... Well, the Overland campaign with Grant had started right, you know, just heading down Route 1, or today, 95, you go from Spotsylvania to really where they had re-fought so many times and finally at Cold Harbor. | ||
| They had a mutiny. | ||
| They didn't let the press there. | ||
| I think the 7th charge, it was in 17 minutes, they lost 7,000 men or something. | ||
| And the 7th wave would not get out of the trenches. | ||
| They were just getting slaughtered so badly. | ||
| And they suppressed that from the press. | ||
| Grant just was grinding it out, was going to break Lee's army in front of Richmond. | ||
| And then that siege, if it had not been for the fall of Atlanta, remember Lincoln actually wrote up, remember the famous memo where he said, Hey, it looks like we're going to be voted out of office. | ||
| And they talk about Trump and the insurrection. | ||
| They, they, they Lincoln, you know, wrote, I think wrote the memo to the cabinet and said, Hey, look, it looks pretty grim. | ||
| Look, this is, I think in August before Atlanta fell over on September 1st with Sherman, that And I think he put the cabinet on notice to say, if we're voted out of office, you know, I've got to bring this thing to a conclusion. | ||
| And I think it was kind of open-ended about what he was talking about. | ||
| Are you going to leave on time? | ||
| I know the transition's not to March, but what does that mean? | ||
| No, Lincoln, and this is what I think the Libertarians, you know, hate him, but, and you said he was a quasi-warlord. | ||
| I think he was a total warlord. | ||
| I mean, he ran this thing, and remember, he didn't want to fight what Sherman and these guys told you, that the South, the Southern people, had so much pride and so much toughness, even the people that were not involved in slavery at all, that Sherman told them, you're going to have to burn the Confederacy to the ground. | ||
| You're not going to defeat armies. | ||
| And beat these people you're going to have to burn it to the ground and it ended up burning Columbia, South Carolina and Charleston and of course Atlanta and Richmond and they basically had to take the torch to torch to the enemy to kind of break it. | ||
| But that's why I think the spiritual times of the Civil War are the greatest times. | ||
| In our history, it talks about Thanksgiving. | ||
| If you think about it, Larry, when you talk about the pilgrims, that was all struggle. | ||
| Yes, they had surplus. | ||
| I'm sure they had some good days. | ||
| But every day is just a heroic struggle to even survive on this foothold, this little teeny part of the coast. | ||
| Right? | ||
| With this whole vast continent in front of it. | ||
| And a vast continent filled with a lot, you know, folks that were here and fighting each other all the time. | ||
| You know, the Indians and these different alliances and different constant wars they had going on, Tom, against each other. | ||
| Wars of conquest. | ||
| And then you look at the Civil War, the massive struggle of the Civil War. | ||
| And the Thanksgiving holiday really comes out. | ||
| Thanksgiving is really, I think, Well, I think this is important. | ||
| I don't think Lincoln was giving thanks for victory. | ||
| I think he was giving thanks for the nation and basically saying to God, you have your way with this nation. | ||
| If anything, and I've kind of never thought about this before, but if anything, I think It was on that Thanksgiving that Lincoln basically handed the country over to God and say, it's in your hands from here on out. | ||
| We won these big victories. | ||
| It apparently isn't working. | ||
| What do we need to do? | ||
| Oh, tell me about that. | ||
| I think that's brilliant. | ||
| Tell me, that's quite interesting. | ||
| It wasn't thanks that we can see our way through this, it's thanks that just turn it over. | ||
| It's in God's hands and we're your instruments, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, you mentioned that Lee's army got away. | ||
| Yes, Vicksburg had fallen, but Atlanta was still there. | ||
| Charleston was still there. | ||
| Confederate Army of the West was still there. | ||
| We hadn't sealed off the Port of Mobile yet. | ||
| The Shenandoah Valley was still a breadbasket for the Confederates. | ||
| In other words, you know, I tell my students that you look at World War II. | ||
| And the Battle of Midway. | ||
| And it's so interesting that after that point, the Japanese could not win. | ||
| They couldn't win. | ||
| It was just out of the question they could win. | ||
| But we had three more horrific years of incredible bloodletting before we actually culminated and finished off that victory, right? | ||
| Just because you reach that tipping point doesn't mean that the The way down is like straight downhill. | ||
| There's a lot of tough slogging and that's what happened after Gettysburg and Vicksburg. | ||
| I don't think the Confederates could have won. | ||
| The only thing that could have happened after that time would have been that Lincoln would have Jesus! | ||
| he needed to negotiate, which of course what McClellan and all of the others wanted him to do. And there's one other thing that I think we have to bring up here and enlighten today, and that is did Lincoln make a big mistake in not totally banning the Democrat Party? | ||
| You should drop that bomb right there. | ||
| Let me ask you, have we lost, have we, we'll get to that in another, in another, in another episode. | ||
| You certainly might have some of the boardroom posse that would give thanks to that. | ||
| Is, have we today, With all of our abundance in technology and obviously agricultural abundance and all that and obviously in time of inflation and in a very bad economic times for people. | ||
| Have we lost touch with Lincoln and our forefathers in the Civil War and the Pilgrims? | ||
| In this post-industrial and let's call it what it is, a post-Christian or what the mainstream media calls a post-Christian nation. | ||
| Have we lost contact, and I mean real contact, with the taproot of what makes this nation great? | ||
| It's interesting, Steve. | ||
| I've toyed with this idea that they've kind of made a deliberate effort to get rid of Thanksgiving. | ||
| You see fewer and fewer Thanksgiving decorations. | ||
| They push Christmas now to before Thanksgiving. | ||
| In other words, it kind of goes from Halloween to Christmas. | ||
| Try to overlook Thanksgiving, and I'm not sure if they see a strategy in that or not, if that's deliberate or just a matter of the shopping calendar. | ||
| I'm not sure, but anything that they do like that is suspicious. | ||
| But yes, we're in apparently a post-Christian nation. | ||
| You see the number of young churchgoers dwindling by the thousands. | ||
| It's not looking good, and a lot of this has to do with the softness And the ease with which people have had things. | ||
| I'm sure you know of the bubble test by Charles Murray in his book, Coming Apart. | ||
| And he has these 25 questions that you can answer. | ||
| Like, have you ever attended a parade that wasn't a climate parade or a gay rights parade? | ||
| Can you name these five military insignias? | ||
| How often have you eaten at a Chili's or an Applebee's? | ||
| Things like that. | ||
| And what's amazing is that we really are two nations. | ||
| We're a group of people who experience those things, know those things, have them as common experiences, and we're a group of people who are just absolutely clueless on those things. | ||
| What do you think it's going to take to, you know, we talk about, and I say, hey, you know, we're in a fourth turning. | ||
| These two sides, these two groups on the bubble test or the politics of it, it's, It's not negotiable. | ||
| I mean, I came out of the world of mergers and acquisitions and hostile takeovers where eventually you got to get in a room and try to put a deal together. | ||
| And you always have to overlap those deals because they always kind of come apart. | ||
| So you always, you know, this is unbridgeable. | ||
| It's been unbridgeable before in American history. | ||
| And this is unbridgeable. | ||
| One side's got to win here and one side's got to lose. | ||
| Is that too, is that too harsh of a way to think about it? | ||
| Is there enough of the common, connective tissue back to our higher selves of our forefathers that could see us through this. | ||
| I don't think so anymore. | ||
| You go back to... I have friends who still want to refer to moderate Democrats. | ||
| Oh, these moderate Democrats will see how bad these people are and they will vote against them. | ||
| Well, they don't. | ||
| There are no such things that I can find as Moderate Democrats. | ||
| Kyrsten Sinema voted the right way, the common sense way, on a couple of spending bills and she was just about ridden out of the party. | ||
| They think Joe Manchin is an absolute ogre. | ||
| And these guys are hardcore liberals. | ||
| They vote for abortion rights. | ||
| They vote for homosexual rights. | ||
| They just moved a little tiny bit to the left and they're being ridden out of town on a rail. | ||
| So I do think that we're back to a civil war point, maybe without the violence. | ||
| But one side or the other has to win this fight because there's no more reaching across the aisle. | ||
| There's no more doing what's best in the national interest. | ||
| You have to have each side say, I think this is what's best in the national interest. | ||
| The other one says, I think this is what's best. | ||
| Let's go ahead and see who wins. | ||
| I tell you what, Larry, if you can just hang on, we've got one more segment and I want to wrap things up. | ||
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| So it's created some unique opportunities short commercial break We're gonna be back with Larry Schweikert the author of the Patriots history of the United States Thanking the Lord he made you And this year when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord he made you. | ||
| And when the time comes to be going, it won't be in sorrow and tears. | ||
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| The color of blue in your sweet eyes, the sight of a high ball and welcome back. | ||
| It's our Thanksgiving special. | ||
| I really want to thank everybody for being a part of this. | ||
| Larry Sweikart, tell us, any new books coming out? | ||
| Anything you're working on before we wrap up here? | ||
| I've started a Patriot's History of Globalism, Its Rise and Decline. | ||
| And that's proving pretty interesting. | ||
| I also have, this'll probably be free. | ||
| I've been working on America in the 21st Century, which will be an extension of Patriot's History since they haven't decided to publish a new edition. | ||
| So I don't want to leave people hanging. | ||
| So I'm going to just put this out on my website. | ||
| Patriot's History of the Modern World ends when? | ||
| 2018. | ||
| No, I'm sorry, 2013. | ||
| 2013. | ||
| 2013. | ||
| So it's before you miss all of Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The Patriot's History of Trump. | ||
| Well, the latest edition of Patriot's History goes through 2018. | ||
| And on my website, the wildworldofhistory.com, we have a Black Friday special where you can get Patriot's History United States, the Patriot's History Reader, My biography of Reagan, Reagan the American president, 48 liberal lies about American history, and 7 events that made America, all for $114. | ||
| It's a great Christmas edition. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| So go to thewildworldofhistory.com. | ||
| That's a fantastic Christmas gift. | ||
| Wild World of History. | ||
| We'll put it up on all the sites and push it on all the platforms. | ||
| Larry, any closing thoughts here? | ||
| You got a minute or two of closing thoughts about what people on this day of thanks to God Almighty should be thinking about? | ||
| Well, as much as we hate to think so sometimes, God's still in control, right? | ||
| And he doesn't always do things that I would have him do. | ||
| I would change a few elections. | ||
| My first prayer every day, Steve, is, God, thank you that you are God and I am not. | ||
| Because there would be a lot of fried people walking around out there if I was in charge. | ||
| So, you know, we can't see the total future, but he can. | ||
| And so we just have to rely on that. | ||
| Well, it's every day. | ||
| And remember, God works through human agency. | ||
| What we try to do as a show is to make sure that we inform and empower folks. | ||
| And so we'll continue on. | ||
| I want everybody to make sure that... Larry, thank you so much for taking this time away to do all this. | ||
| And the books are fantastic. | ||
| I go to the Wild World of History. | ||
| I want to make sure we'll put the links up so that everybody can get this amazing special. | ||
| You've got, what, 114 bucks to get all those books. | ||
| It's just incredible. | ||
| Larry Schweikert, co-author of The Patriot's History of the United States, thank you so much for spending part of your Thanksgiving with us. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| I want to thank everybody out there. | ||
| Make sure you have a fantastic Thanksgiving with family, friends, or however you celebrate it and honor it. | ||
| And I want to thank everybody in the team here that helps put together Real America's Voice. | ||
| Of course, our tremendous production team at the War Room and for all of our audience that is there for us and our sponsors. | ||
| I want to thank everybody that helps make this show so special. | ||
| Particularly, I have always loved, I think the last couple of years, I don't know if it was Dan Fluitt, A senior producer myself, I'll take credit that I found the Johnny Cash song. | ||
| But it's really been quite special. | ||
| And we're very honored to play it. | ||
| I think there's no more American original than Johnny Cash. | ||
| And so we always start our Thanksgiving special with this very special song. | ||
| And we always end our Thanksgiving special with this very special song. | ||
| So we'll be back tomorrow morning. | ||
| This afternoon will be a replay of this. | ||
| We'll be back tomorrow morning. | ||
| We'll get into all of it and pick things back up where we left off. | ||
| Until then, thank you very much for joining us on our Thanksgiving special. | ||
| and we're going to end with Johnny Cash's Thanksgiving song. | ||
| We've come to the time in the season when family and friends gather near to offer a prayer of thanksgiving for blessings we've known through the year | ||
| to join hands and thank the creator now when thanksgiving is due This year when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord He made you. | ||
| This year when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord He made you. | ||
| I'm grateful for the laughter of children, | ||
| The sun and the wind and the rain The color of blue in your sweet eyes The sight of a high ballin' train The moon rise over a prairie An old love that you've made new And this year when I count my blessings | ||
| I'm thanking the Lord He made you. | ||
| This year when I count my blessings, I'm thanking the Lord He made you. | ||
| And when the time comes to be gone, It won't be in sorrow and tears, I'll kiss you goodbye, and I'll go on my way, grateful for all of the years. | ||
| I thank you for all that you gave me, for teaching me what love can do. | ||
| And Thanksgiving Day, for the rest of my life, I'm thanking the Lord he made you. | ||
| Thanksgiving day for the rest of my life. |
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