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Nov. 18, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Episode 2311: Chaos On Election Day In Maricopa; Taking Down The Administrative State
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steve bannon
18:09
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caroline wren
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kari lake
02:26
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mike adams
03:41
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josh hawley
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unidentified
Hi, my name is Jeff Zink.
I'm also a Maricopa County resident.
I'm also a congressional candidate for District 3 against Ruben Gallego that I ran.
One of the things that I am trying to be brought to attention is that we have media that's being excluded here.
The America Voice and Gateway Pundit has not been allowed to be in here.
Why?
That's a great question for y'all to answer.
The other is that I also worked the Arizona audit in 2020.
Also the Arizona primary audit that a lot of people don't know.
I've also worked nine states in this country.
The fraud that has been taking place is rampant.
But this county alone, y'all and Georgia are fighting tooth and nail to be who's more corrupt.
This is something that I feel like that we need to actually take control of.
In my race alone, an algorithm took place which shows that at no time did I ever gain any ground whatsoever.
Yet, in all of the exit polls and all the people have been polled, 56% of the people Exiting out of Maricopa County was Republicans on Election Day, yet that does not reflect in any shape or form in my election.
In fact, it is a linear line that is actually perpendicular to Ruben Gallego's.
This is a farce.
This election absolutely along with the 2020 is no longer certifiable.
This needs to be redone.
We need ballots that are paper.
It needs to be counted in one day.
If Florida can count, which is twice our size, Hello, my name is Jonah Landry.
a hurricane, then we should be able to do it in one day as well.
And the fact that we don't is a disgrace to not only the Arizonans that you're trying to represent, but what I'm also trying to represent.
Mr. Zink, your time is up.
Thank you.
Hello, my name is Jonah Landry.
I'm 20 years old and this past midterm will be the first time I voted in a second major election.
It is an honor to be able to take part in such an integral part of our country.
But nothing is more diminishing than feeling like your voice is not heard.
And that's what I and many others feel right now.
I am not here to attack anyone, but I am here to simply give a perspective that many of my peers and I feel.
Many of you are probably here going to get complaints about insecurities with machines, ballot stuffing, week-long counting, and some of the members even of this board being in a coalition that was to prevent MAGA candidates.
And though some of these arguments I agree with having some factor in the result of the elections, that is not what I'm here to talk about today.
Today I'm here to talk about something that can't be chalked up to conspiracy theory rhetoric, but is a factual event that cannot be denied.
Today I'm here to talk about the errors that occurred in 20-30% of our voting machines.
The delays that resulted from these errors extended lines around 60-90 minutes long.
I would be upset about this, but wouldn't say it's election-changing issues if it weren't out for two factors.
First is how close this election is.
Our governor is being decided by a difference of 17,000 votes and our Attorney General by less than 1,000.
The second factor is that a request to extend the poll was submitted, just like Pennsylvania when they had delays, but for some reason it was shot down.
That is willful neglect.
A lot of people here went to vote early because they had no time to vote after work.
But delays did not allow them to vote in general without being late.
When Election Day in-person votes averaged around 16% Democrats, and these machine errors affected mainly red areas, we would have seen different results.
I request that December 6th, Maricopa County holds a runoff election without these machines that caused the problems in the first place.
Thank you.
Thank you again.
Please, no outbursts.
kari lake
Hey Arizona, Carrie Lake here.
I wanted to reach out to you to let you know that I am still in this fight with you.
For two years, I've been sounding the alarm about our broken election system here in Arizona, and this past week has confirmed everything we've been saying.
When we called for Katie Hobbs to recuse herself over a year ago, they ridiculed us.
It turns out we were right.
The Fox was guarding the hen house, and because of that, voters have been disenfranchised.
When we raised concerns and I filed a lawsuit months ago to get rid of the electronic voting machines, they said we were crazy.
Well, it turns out we were right.
On election day, nearly half of all polling locations had problems with tabulating machines and printers.
Malfunctioning tabulation machines forced voters to wait in line for hours to exercise their sacred right to vote.
I talked to voters who waited in line for hours.
One man told me he went to a location and there was a three-hour line because the tabulators weren't working.
He drove 15 miles to another location and the printers weren't working.
He drove another 15 miles and was finally able to cast his vote, but he's not sure it counted.
Our election officials failed us miserably.
What happened to Arizonans on Election Day is unforgivable.
Tens of thousands of Maricopa County voters were disenfranchised.
Now, I am busy here collecting evidence and data.
Rest assured, I have assembled the best and brightest legal team, and we are exploring every avenue to correct the many wrongs that have been done this past week.
I'm doing everything in my power to right these wrongs.
My resolve to fight for you is higher than ever.
This movement started in Arizona and it quickly expanded to all 50 states.
It's a movement of mama bears and papa bears and students and Arizonans who love this country, who want secure borders, who want schools that prepare their children for the real opportunities that are out there.
It's a movement of Arizonans who want safe streets once again and want the drug crisis to come to an end.
It's a movement of Arizonans who want prosperity and the pursuit of happiness.
That movement is stronger than it ever has been.
And I can promise you one thing.
This fight to save our republic has just begun.
I love you, Arizona.
And I love you, America.
steve bannon
It is Thursday, 17 November, in the year of our Lord 2022.
And if you think the fight ended on Election Day, you are sorely mistaken.
Carrie Lake, throwing down hard, has assembled a top quality team of data experts, a team of lawyers.
But it's really just to augment the people of Arizona.
I've never seen an outpouring like this in my life.
This dwarfs 2020.
The material I've seen, the videos I've seen, the affidavits I've seen, it's overwhelming.
We could play the clips from Maricopa County for hours.
Brian Kennedy, in fact, is going to join us at the top of the hour for the next hour to go through more of it.
I want to bring in now Caroline Wren, a senior advisor to Carrie Lake.
Caroline, just tell us, where exactly do we stand in this?
You guys went dark and ship for a couple of days internally, I think, to work these things through.
You know, we're coming up on Friday.
They haven't finished counting.
You were still getting drops, right?
We're getting drops from Apache, Cochise.
I think there was more ballots from Maricopa County this morning.
You know, we were told the other day that, you know, Maricopa County's done, but there's all sudden more in Maricopa County.
Surprise, surprise, couple of thousand.
So I don't think the certification process hasn't, I think, officially started because they're still putting in ballots.
Where are we in the process and where are we in Carrie Lake's fight?
caroline wren
Well, it's been, I guess, what is this, eight days since election day and they're not done counting.
I mean, this doesn't happen in other states.
This is unbelievable.
We're watching Maricopa just keeps finding more ballots and the lack of communication between Maricopa County and the different campaigns and legal teams is really stunning.
They don't give us any straight information, any straight answers.
We asked for it politely.
We tried to demand it and it's just Nothing.
We just are basically at the mercy of what everyone else sees, where they just publicly say, okay, here's another drop.
Good luck.
Figure out where it's from.
And then there's counties all over that we don't have still, you know, all the votes in, you know, Abe's in a really, really tight race.
And every time you see Abe just gained 222 votes, but then Apache County drops 224 votes for Chris Mays.
And it's just, it's nobody has faith in this.
This is a completely broken system.
And so we're working hard.
We went a little dark just trying to figure out what to do.
It's hard to keep up with the amount of information that is coming out publicly, but also just thousands, thousands of people who are reaching out to say that they or a loved one or a friend was disenfranchised on election day.
And preparing a legal team to even go through that amount of data is really quite difficult.
I mean, that is just so much.
And then the other part is, A big place where that data lives is in the Secretary of State's office.
This is the same Secretary of State that's our opponent who wouldn't recuse herself.
This is the same Secretary of State who was in charge of certifying this election.
This is the same Secretary of State who botched this entire election that she was supposed to oversee.
steve bannon
Why haven't you gone in?
If you're, if you're, if Maricopa County is not giving you access, and there's some pretty basic things they have to give, like the, the, the login book versus the number of votes.
I mean, there's certain ways the system's supposed to have to check.
The manuals of the, the man, check in, check it.
The manual is about that thick.
And of course, there were so many conflicting and confusing, um, Orders given on on Tuesday that conflict with the document that's that big.
Remember this document just didn't drop from heaven.
This document was highly negotiated and processed oriented.
I think Haiti Hobbs's names on a it's promulgated under the signature of the Secretary of State and the Attorney General and the governor.
This was all supposed to take care of the problems of 2020.
So this is not something they just kind of thought up on the spot, yet there's so many moving pieces that weren't done according to the manual.
If you're not getting the information, why have you not gone in the court and get an injunction and have a judge or ask for the court to start to supervise this?
If it's as much as fiasco on the inside from you guys, as it appears to the voting public and to the media that is covering this closely, And you can just see, Maricopa, don't take my word for it.
Just listen to the hours of testimony by voters and candidates at the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors meeting.
Why are you not in court asking for a TRO, an injunction, or at least for some sort of court supervision of this fiasco that obviously Katie Hobbs and Bill Gates can't manage and can't oversee, ma'am?
caroline wren
Well, to answer the first part of your question regarding the manual since 2020 and Katie Hobbs, well, reminder, her office has been closed since 2020.
So I don't think anyone within Katie Hobbs' office or anyone even knows what's in this manual, quite frankly, because they're certainly not following it.
And this was truly one of the worst run elections maybe in the history of time.
So it's that part.
The second part is I can't go too much even to the legal strategy, but there are a couple of things I can go into.
And there's been a lot of back and forth between our attorneys and the Maricopa County attorneys.
And I do think that we need to be more public about what those things are.
We've been trying to be very careful and And I don't want to say play by the rules, because the Democrats certainly don't, but trying to follow this process along.
But one of the letters that our attorneys sent yesterday It's something really simple that we'd like to know.
Why is it that we start early voting on October 12th?
And why did 0% of the voting centers encounter tabulation problems during early voting when we know the Democrats were all heavily voting?
And why did that number then jump up to 48% of voting centers encounter tabulation problems on Election Day when voters voted for Carrie Lake 3-1?
Basic things like that are being put in writing.
We're sending them to Maricopa County.
Shocker, they're not answering them, but these are things that if You know, certain things end up going to litigation.
I think there's a lot of people who would like to know this because I would like to know.
I think that is absolutely outrageous and it's either total incompetence or it's malice.
And I think that's what we're going to try to find out.
steve bannon
Carrie Lake is a fighter.
Her whole campaign is a fighter's campaign.
I take it you guys are doing the work, you're getting the data, you just don't want to be flailing around.
But I would assume that, given what you're telling me, that her supporters and her opponents are going to see something a little more aggressive shortly?
caroline wren
See, we both are awesome.
The courts aren't on our side.
Like, reminder, Carrie Lake sued.
To get rid of these tabulation machines six months ago, and the court told her she didn't have standing.
Like, if Carrie Lake didn't have standing, I mean, who does?
And sure enough, like, they all said that we're crazy and we're conspiracy theorists, and the judge threw it out.
Kelly Ward was yelling at everyone for months about toner ink, and they called her a crazy conspiracy theorist.
And here we are.
48% of the tabulation centers went down on election day due to toner ink and other printer malfunction issues.
This is something that we sued about six months ago, something we yelled at everyone about.
steve bannon
So, you know, we can take these things to court, but at some point we're just... Does the campaign think that this election's certifiable, yes or no?
caroline wren
I don't want to answer that question and jump out against the litigation yet, but I can tell you that Kerry Lick is certainly a fighter, and it's... I just don't want to answer that yet, but I think that the public will have an answer to that very, very soon, as to whether we do or not.
steve bannon
Caroline, how do people follow you?
People are on tenterhooks about this.
Not just the Carrie Lake supporters, but the media from around the world, the opposition, the Carrie Lake haters, the Carrie Lake supporters, the world at large.
How do they follow you?
caroline wren
Well, I think one thing, if you have any friends or family or one of the thousands of people in Maricopa County that experience serious issues on Election Day, I encourage people to go to SaveAZNow.com.
And that's where you can officially put in your claim, and we have attorneys that are going to be looking into that.
And then separately, follow at Carrie Lake on Twitter, Getter, other places, and it's at Caroline Wren.
steve bannon
At Carrie Lake, at Caroline Wren, and saveaz.
caroline wren
Saveaznow.com.
steve bannon
I'll get it.
That's easy for you to say.
Carolyn Wren, thank you very much.
Thank you very much, ma'am.
we will turn now to list here is we get back after short commercial he's Thursday, 17 November, Year of the Lord 2022.
We stay in Arizona.
Liz Harris, you remember Liz from a couple of years ago, the canvassing.
She got a nasty letter from Merrick Garland that said, hey, if you start doing canvassing, that's a criminal activity.
And we got the hairy eyeball on you trying to intimidate Liz Harris.
The good folks out in Arizona, they're not, you can't intimidate them.
She's now one being state rep from Arizona 13 in the Chandler area.
But Liz, you put out something today.
You said, let me get this right.
You said you were willing to give up your victory, willing to give your victory if they would have, if they would stop the certification process and just do the whole statewide election over again.
Do I understand that right or am I incorrect?
unidentified
Well, yeah, I know that's a good interpretation.
I won my election.
However, I am calling for a new election.
Here in Arizona, so many of us were highly disappointed when Kerry Lake did not prove victorious.
However, we knew this was another repeat of a fraudulent, potentially fraudulent election.
It was like a redo of 2020.
So in Arizona, also understand that the victory for the House and the Senate for the state of Arizona, it's a margin of one Republican each.
Now, the projections were that the House should have a five to seven person Republican win and that the Senate should have a three to five person win.
So to give us Katie Hobbs, Adrian Fontes, and a one advantage on the House and the Senate, there is no way, all indicators do not indicate that that was what was deemed to happen.
Arizona was undergoing a red wave, and instead they give us Katie Hobbs, who will do nothing to help the state legislature with election reform.
steve bannon
We have- Okay, okay.
Hang on.
Hang on.
Hold on.
I know the candidates.
I know the things, but I want to get the- because you're a detail person.
Yes.
Is it sour grapes?
And let's say I argue that, hey, the McCain and the Mormons out there are moderates and they look at you guys as a... I'm giving the mainstream media's take.
That you have the McCain faction and the Mormon faction, which is the central part to the business community.
They're very moderate.
They're kind of open borders, and they look at you guys as a collection of extremists, and they voted for the treasurer, who they're comfortable with, and they didn't vote for the rest of you.
So that's why you didn't get the seats.
Do you have a concrete argument?
Because you've been doing this for years, and you've been detailing.
You're the hero, because you kind of went around and knocked on doors, and actually drew a letter from Merrick Garland and Lisa Monaco, I think, to say, hey, we think that's a canvas to actually see who's there and you found your survey you showed enough I think to show there were some problems that's why they wanted to shut you down and Navarro kept saying it's Liz Harris it's the canvas not the count right what do you have here besides oh we didn't uh we didn't win
unidentified
enough seats and we didn't and Carrie Lake's not governor ma'am my my bold statement is that they have controlled the elections for decades that that is a very bold statement but the canvas proves it The machine information, the software information that we've learned over the year, last year, there's so many things.
And what happens is when you want to put this evidence in front of them and show them the canvas or show them anything, they don't want to look at it.
You know, it's like they don't want to see the evidence.
I have offered to every single legislator, come to my office and look at the canvas results.
CNN, they didn't look at it.
They said, oh, we debunked it.
I mean, that's the problem.
They don't want to look at the evidence.
Steve, if they looked at the evidence.
Okay.
steve bannon
Okay.
Hang on.
Hang on.
You went out and after you did this, you actually ran for office and you won an office in the state legislature of Arizona, which is no small thing.
Most of the congressmen and senators, they all started there.
You have an obligation to the people in the Chandler area that you ran on a ticket and you won.
And it's also a legislature that's virtually a dead heat.
So each vote, including your vote, is magnified.
You've proposed that either have a new election or something you may not vote in any legislation if they certify this election.
Is there anything from this election where you actually ran, not the body of evidence that you've had to date, which I think is quite compelling, but in this election, the one that took place in the weeks leading up to and the day of November 8th, that would compel you to say, I'm prepared to have the people of Chandler Who will hopefully have your back to say, I'm not prepared to really take my seat until this thing gets sorted out.
unidentified
So I'm going to take the seat, but I'm going to withhold votes, which is essentially not take.
All right.
So going into the election, we had over a 1000 Republican advantage, meaning A thousand more people sent in mail-in ballots, which is very good because typically, even in Republican districts, the number of mail-in ballots that get returned for the Democrats, it's always higher.
We went, Julie Willoughby and I, we, it's a two, there are two seats.
Julie Willoughby and I were running as a team, two seats, two Republicans.
I believe very strongly that Julie Willoughby and I, we were cheated out of votes based on the fact That a Democrat website named Uplift had the numbers in our favor.
And then when you get all the people to come out and vote on election day, which is, which is typically a high Republican percentage.
I was very confident going into this elect going into election day that Julie and I had it, but instead they had the Democrat win by over 3000 votes.
And then they had Julie and I neck and neck.
So if we can get a new election, the only type of election that I'm going to trust, and this is nothing new, I've been saying this for two years, one day, one vote, paper ballots, no machines, hand counts, strong voter ID and the voting at the precinct level.
It's that simple.
That's how it was when our founding fathers created this country.
That is how we will have a fair election.
And if we can do that, it would be, it would be amazing because I think that is going to show the red wave.
steve bannon
Liz, how do people follow you for this?
Because this is only going to get more contentious, particularly since people like you are putting out bold, let's say, ideas.
And I know that the courts are going to get involved, I think, pretty quickly.
How do people follow you?
unidentified
So on Truth Social, Facebook and Instagram, vote Liz Harris.
steve bannon
Liz, thank you for coming on.
Look forward to having you back on here as we track this.
And very bold proposal on your newly won seat.
unidentified
Somebody needs to do it.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Liz Harris, a patriot.
Okay.
I want to talk Arizona.
Well, first off, Sab, before I get the cold open in here, give me your thoughts on Arizona and the election fiasco out there.
unidentified
It's the GOP.
What a flipping disaster.
I mean, you know, God bless our mate Dylan for trying to put a good face on it.
But when she comes on my show Wednesday morning from the from the RNC wall room and says, yeah, it's true.
They didn't have enough printer cartridges.
What a joke.
I mean, Rona McDaniel should have handed in her resignation.
I know years ago, but the Wednesday after the GOP doesn't have printer cartridges.
That's just ranking competence.
But the bigger story is the following.
It is the ballots versus votes.
Some candidates are just going to win because they're great candidates.
In those states where the GOP isn't in control or they're ranking competence, we have to... I hate saying this.
My gosh, I can't believe I'm saying this.
We have to harvest more ballots Then the bad guys.
I mean, if you've got 50 days of voting in Pennsylvania, 45 in the Commonwealth after Youngkin takes over, and more than 50% of Pennsylvania votes before a medically compromised individual even debates Oz, It's not about Americans going to the polls to choose a candidate.
It's about the enterprise of collecting pieces of paper collectively and harvesting them.
And sadly, until we fix the system, the electoral system, we just have to out-harvest the bad guys.
Do you agree?
Is this unconservative for me to say that, Steve?
steve bannon
There's two different businesses.
There's a ballot manufacturing distribution and harvesting business, and that's what the Democrats are in, particularly in Nevada and in Pennsylvania.
And then there's a get-out-the-vote, let's have some rallies, get-out-the-vote, knock on doors and have people come and actually vote.
That's kind of the horse-and-buggy system right now.
compared to the state-of-the-art ballot manufacturing business.
I'm not saying it's a voting business, it's a ballot manufacturing business.
unidentified
Yes.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second.
How long?
Can we go ahead and play calmer?
Can we go ahead and play calmer?
Let me play calmer for Seb.
Okay, fine.
I tell you, we'll do it right when we come back and break.
Seb, what do you think, in your observation, talking to Harmeet, do you think that the election in Arizona is certifiable?
unidentified
Yeah, of course, because she's going to certify herself.
Should it be certified?
Absolutely not.
But it's again, it's like 2020.
If there's no chain of custody, you live in the real world, okay?
Why do conservatives want to vote on election day?
Because guess what?
I am the custodian of my vote.
I physically go to the polling station.
I show my ID.
They give me the ballot.
I fill it in.
I put it in the ballot box or I put it in the scanner.
The chain of custody works because I am the guardian of the chain of custody.
In Arizona and everywhere else where we have early voting, where we have mail-in voting, where we have harvesting, there is no chain of custody!
So they can certify a pig in a poke.
They can certify whatever they want.
It will be certified, but I spoke to Carrie Lake Offline yesterday, and man, she's gonna fight, fight, fight.
I wrote a big piece in American Greatness today, like 3,000 words.
Whatever happens, I think President Trump needs to create a ballot reform enterprise and Carrie Lake should be the head of the national voter reform enterprise in America.
What do you think, Steve?
steve bannon
Interesting concept.
Here's what I think.
She's not going to have time because she's been governor of Arizona.
unidentified
I hope so.
steve bannon
And I think she's going to I think she's going to go into court and get some court supervision of this.
Short break.
Explosive news on Capitol Hill today.
Seb Gorka is going to lay it all out for you in the war room.
We rejoice when there's no more.
unidentified
Let's take down Joe Biden.
The President of the United States and why he lied to the American people about his knowledge and participation in his family's international business schemes.
National security interests require the committee conduct investigation and we will pursue all avenues, avenues that have long been ignored.
Committee Republicans have uncovered evidence of federal crimes committed by and to the benefit of members of the President's family.
These include conspiracy or defrauding the United States.
Wire fraud.
Conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
Violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
Violations of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.
Violations of the Trafficking Victims Protection Act.
Tax evasion.
Money laundering.
And conspiracy to commit money laundering.
The Biden family's business dealings implicate a wide range of criminality from human trafficking to potential violations of the Constitution.
In the 118th Congress, this committee will evaluate the status of Joe Biden's relationship with his family's foreign partners and whether he is a president who is compromised or swayed by foreign dollars and influence.
I want to be clear.
This is an investigation of Joe Biden.
And that's where the committee will focus in this next Congress.
Plain.
Let's just look at some of the things while you've been vacationing that your FBI has been doing.
josh hawley
According to numerous whistleblowers who have come forward to members of this body, to members of the House, the FBI has been sending more than in one instance a dozen armed agents to a rural Pennsylvania home of a Catholic pro-life demonstrator to arrest him at gunpoint in front of his children in early morning hours despite the fact that he posed no risk of violence or threat and had previously offered to turn himself in.
unidentified
Numerous whistleblowers, field agents, have alleged that DC, your headquarters, has pulled them off working on child sex abuse cases, working on human trafficking cases, in order to work on January 6th matters for this reason.
To give the appearance, they say, they say, that there are hundreds of new domestic terrorism cases in the country, when in fact there are not.
Whistleblowers, field agents have also said that D.C.
has ordered the use of SWAT teams on non-violent suspects who may have attended a January 6th rally and they have been ordered to conduct surveillance and knock on doors of people who were not even in D.C.
on January 6th.
And again, all of this, according to the whistleblowers, these are your agents, all of this in order to make it look as if there's a mass surge in domestic terrorism all across the country When, in fact, the stats are being padded by political directive in your office.
They also say, these whistleblowers, that D.C.
leadership deliberately suppressed investigations into Hunter Biden, contrary to FBI procedure, and have also retaliated against FBI agents and whistleblowers who have contacted Congress, which, by the way, they are protected by statute to do so.
This is what's happening at your FBI while you are evading oversight hearings.
Mr. Director, do you think you're still up to this job?
I absolutely think I'm still up to this job, and I think our workforce feels the same way.
Well, I don't.
And frankly, I think you should have been gone a long time ago.
And given your behavior recently, I think it only makes it more clear.
Are there any travel plans today that we should be aware of that you have?
We're supposed to have a second round.
Will you be here for that?
Yes.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
steve bannon
By the way, the ant right there is calling him a liar.
If you noticed a little difference, what a difference a date makes.
We're now in charge of the House, and let me give you the signal, not the noise, on the Senate.
The 2024 cycle is horrible for the Democrats.
They've got 33 seats up, 24 Democrats, there's a half a dozen in red states, and you've got Tester and Manchin.
This is the reason the debt ceiling is now, looks like it's not going to happen in the lame duck.
And right there you see a new, innervated Senate.
Josh Hawley, eviscerating the head of the FBI.
A stone-cold liar, Ray.
Ray will be impeached.
He will be, um, I think he's broken the law.
I think it's criminality up and down the FBI.
But he had, uh, Congressman Comer, and this is McCarthy not getting, you know, only getting 188 votes for Speaker the other day.
He heard you, he's listening to Matt Gaetz, because Matt Gaetz said, hey, these investigations are just gonna be performative.
That's not performative.
I mean, he listed, what, 10 federal crimes and then said, hey, this is not about Hunter Biden.
This investigation is about Joe Biden.
So I know everybody's talking about impeachment.
Forget impeachment right now.
Don't need to worry about it.
Just focus on the investigations.
And that was a joint press conference between the House Oversight Committee and the Judiciary Committee.
And Comer didn't come out like any Trey Gowdy.
Seb, your assessment of the first shots across the bow from Hawley in the Senate and Comer in the House?
unidentified
Well, first things first, I was remiss.
It was remiss of me.
I didn't say at Mar-a-Lago on Tuesday, which was an amazing evening.
I saw a certain member of the Bannon family.
She looked lovely.
So it was great to see your daughter there in Mar-a-Lago.
I don't know.
Maybe I have to do a mea culpa based upon what you told me in the break, Steve, because allegedly Comer had his nose put out of joint when Matt Gaetz invited me to the members Uh, dining room about two months ago to talk about what needs to happen here after the midterms to investigate Hunter Biden and the Biden organized crime cartel.
Um, I, I, I'd never heard of coma before.
I'm always suspicious of politicians who've been in DC that you've never ever heard of because it means they haven't kicked up a fuss in the swamp, but apparently he's the real deal.
That list was impressive.
I'm going to play exactly that cut again tonight.
I'll be Hosting Rob Schmidt's show on Newsmax, so I'm going to play that whole sot again.
I'm not interested in subpoenas.
I want to see these things.
I want to see charges.
I'm not interested in impeachment.
I want to see criminal referrals occur.
The Biden family is an organized crime cartel.
Alejandro Mayorkas is aiding and abetting the cartels of Mexico right now.
He is helping them.
He has kept the border open.
The deaths, the blood are on his hands, on the hands of Joe Biden.
Look, it sounds good, it's a great soundbite, but if there's anybody who's more cynical than me about DC, it's got to be Stephen K. Bannon.
So, do you trust this GOP with an individual who's taken no blame for the disastrous result, made the minority leader again, with Mitch in charge, with Kevin in charge.
Do you trust these guys, Steve?
I'm going to interview you now.
steve bannon
Well, you know, we had Matt Rosendale from Montana on yesterday, and he said there's no way that McCarthy has the votes.
He just says he doesn't have them.
unidentified
I know!
He said that to me, but do you actually believe that?
steve bannon
Here's what I believe is that McCarthy and these guys understand, at least right now, there's enough pressure on them that you had that press conference with Jim Jordan today.
And that was impressive.
And I got to tell you, inside the White House, they're rattled.
Because here's why.
Immediately after that press conference, first off, a lot of mainstream media didn't show up for it.
The questions were, well, weren't these things all from 17?
But you know what started trending right after that?
It was Jared Kushner.
Because they said, well, hold it.
If you're going to do Hunter Biden, don't you have to do Jared Kushner on his Arab deal?
So, that shows you they're nervous.
When they're counteracting with, well, what about, you know they're nervous.
So look, it's very simple, Seb.
As you know, if this, your audience and the John Frederick Radio Show and ours and the Real American Voice guys and John Solomon, if our collective audiences keep the bayonets to the back, and I want to make sure the liberal media understands that, that's a term, old term of art, means keep pushing them forward, I think we'll get some action.
If we don't, they'll always go back to their ways, to their cartel ways.
I do believe that this, in fact I know this came directly from the Gates Challenge, that McCarthy is now trying to show everybody in the run-up to the Speaker's vote on the 3rd that he's going to be tough, and he unleashed the dogs.
But no offense, I think you being over there at the The dining room in Congress, over in the House, and Comer seeing you with Matt Gaetz and giving you stink eye, understands Gaetz knows how to play the game.
Oh, he does.
I mean, Gaetz has got tremendous media coverage on this one-man rally.
And look, Gaetz is a guy that wants investigations.
He's as good as I've seen in asking these questions.
He's been a major part of Jordan.
So you had Jordan stepping up and you have Comer.
The bottom line is we're going to have to continue pressure.
The appropriations process is the anvil.
unidentified
Let me jump in here.
Your analysis is sound, but let me just push back on one thing.
President Trump, at the end of his speech, declared war on the establishment in a way he's never done before.
When you stand up as a former president who can lead another administration to victory, and you say, I'm going to amend the US Constitution, I'm going to propose an amendment that there are term limits in Congress, and that all congressmen and women and senators will be barred for life from lobbying, At that point, Steve, this man must be destroyed by the establishment.
He must be utterly destroyed because he has gone after the only thing that matters to them, money and power.
And the fact that we've had four people, four members of Congress, in the last three days, actually endorse that declaration of his campaign.
Do we have the people with the spine to follow through?
I love Matt Gaetz.
Troy Nels has endorsed him.
Elise Stefanik has endorsed him.
But can we go after the admin?
You had one mission, Steve, and it's to take down the administrative state.
Can we do it with four people plus President Trump?
steve bannon
No, you can't.
Here's how you got to do it.
Victory begets victory because I keep saying I gave it the talk last night to the audience and then this morning.
This is not – and Trump will get more allies over time as victory begets victory.
This is not 15 and 16 although he's running as an outsider.
This is going to be ten times harder, 20 times harder.
This is Trump vs. the money.
This is Trump vs. the power.
This is Trump vs. the system.
This is Trump vs. the establishment.
This is the outsider vs. the insiders.
This is Trump vs. the man.
Okay?
And that's personified or manifested in Ken Griffin.
In Paul Tudor Jones, in Steve Schwarzman, all the billionaires, plus Rupert Murdoch.
That's what Trump's against.
It's not about DeSantis or Junkin.
They're interchangeable vessels, right?
They will find their vessel, right?
That is what he has to do.
And only Trump can do this.
And quite frankly, he doesn't even need allies.
It's great to Stefanik and these people.
I think it's great that people are positive and say, yes, I support him.
But this is so fundamental and so raw.
This is Trump versus them.
And this is Trump saying, hang on, hang on.
You nailed it, Steve.
unidentified
Your strategic analysis is 100%.
Do we need him, because you're the former chief strategist, do we need him to move the turret, to move the targeting reticle from the front men, the go-betweens, the front organizations, and actually say, guys, do you know who's, it's Murdoch, it's Singer, does he need to have that narrative?
Because if he does, he needs to start now.
steve bannon
I think, well, we'll have to give a couple of days and we'll see.
I say, for Donald Trump, who's a puncher, never punch down.
When you're punching DeSantis and Junkin, you're punching down.
Punch equal.
These guys are your peers or they want to be your peers.
They're jealous that you're the president and they're not.
Punch Paul Singer.
Punch Ken Griffin.
Punch Rupert Murdoch.
Rupert Murdoch's punching you every day in the New York Post, our beloved paper.
Punch back.
Seb, tell us about, give us tonight, give us all the contacts.
We're going to get a subsequent.
And Rob Schmitz, a show on Newsmax.
unidentified
Let me just say something very clear.
What you just said, what we just discussed for the last 120 seconds is the next two years.
Everybody listening right now needs to understand the vector of attack For us to succeed has to be the people behind the front men.
If we want to drain the swamp, it's got to be the money men we take down.
Everybody needs to internalize what Steve and I just discussed, because it is the key to victory in 2024 and saving the Republic.
Just follow me, SebGawker.com.
All the social media except the fascists at YouTube.
So true social, Twitter, and most importantly, Substack.
That's sebastiangorka.substack.com and tonight I'm hosting Rob Schmidt 7 p.m.
I gotta go 7 p.m.
Eastern on Newsmax.
Be there!
steve bannon
Seb's gotta get in the hair and makeup.
Dr. Gorka, thank you.
Short commercial break.
A guest we have wanted for a long time.
Mike Adams from Natural News next in the War Room.
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steve bannon
Okay, just another item from Arizona, just another drop, and they said there's 8,000 votes still left in Maricopa and 3,000 in Pima.
I mean, Maricopa was supposed to be done two nights ago.
This just keeps on.
It's not certifiable.
I mean, you've got to get into court.
You've got to get an injunction.
You've got to show your data and your information.
But I think the information is pretty overwhelming.
This has been a humiliation to the folks in Arizona.
Just understand, on the world stage, you look like buffoons.
It looks like buffoons.
And the guy you roll out there from Maricopa County, Bill Gates, is a complete and total clown.
And to think that goes on the world stage in front of BBC, and German television, and CCTV in Beijing, and NHK.
When you talk about democracy and everything, this is a fiasco, and it's embarrassing.
Embarrassing.
And that's everybody in Arizona, not just the Kerry Lake supporters.
I'm really glad to bring on someone I've wanted to be on the show for a long time, Mike Adams, founder and publisher of Natural News, and also the founder of Brighteon, the video platform, kind of a competitor to YouTube and Rumble.
Mike, there's a very disturbing story out of Reuters, and of course Zero Hedge picked it up.
It's about Germany.
We have focused a lot on capital markets on the show and particularly focus a lot on European capital markets because they're so linked to the United States.
But it's a story about from four insiders from Reuters, you know, pretty squared away that says that German banks are getting emergency measures for cash because of the problems with heating, electricity, this everything's going on that they're very concerned about chaos.
This winter?
I can't think of a better guy than you to come on and explain exactly what's going on.
How serious do you think this is?
And how serious should people in the United States take kind of this, what I call the dark valley that we're about to enter into, sir?
mike adams
Well, Steve, first of all, it's an honor to join you.
And I want to say that when we, the people, take this republic back and the new history books are written, there will be an entire chapter dedicated to Steve Bannon and the War Room crew.
No joke.
You guys are running this in beast mode nonstop, and I'm just happy to be here in parallel with what you're doing and telling the truth.
So to get to your question, I believe there is a global dismantling of food and energy infrastructure that's taking place right now.
I can give a lot of specific examples that we can go into time allowing here, but in Germany, they know what's coming.
They know that the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines has shut off so much energy that rolling blackouts are inevitable through this winter, especially if the weather turns colder.
They know that that's going to cause a lot of panic among their own citizens because Germany is a cash-intensive type of economy.
Most people use cash for most transactions.
If you have blackouts, then the banks don't work, the ATMs don't work during those blackouts.
I'm not saying they're going to be permanent, but they can be rolling and they can cause a lot of frustration among citizens.
So they are preparing for emergency cash distribution and also fuel scarcity and the potential for civil unrest across Germany this winter.
steve bannon
Mike, how long, because I've been a reader of natural news for many, many years.
This is all coming to a head now, but this is a process that's taken us a long time to get here.
Walk us through that process.
We got some time and we can just flow into the next hour or two.
Walk us through, how did we get in here?
We talked about the dismantling of the food and energy infrastructure.
This just didn't happen out of nowhere.
How did we get to this point when an advanced nation, and I think the number three or four economy in the world, Germany, is now in pre-panic mode by officials?
mike adams
Well, we have to bring up the issue of the climate change pushers.
And through climate change, understand, not only did they then meticulously dismantle the fossil fuel infrastructure in Germany, across Western Europe, and also in the United States, through pipeline shutdowns, halting of drilling, and so on.
But you've got to understand, climate change called for carbon sequestration.
Which is altering the chemistry of the atmosphere to pull CO2 out of the air.
Now, CO2 is nutrition for plants, for growing food crops.
And the quickest way to feed the world, by the way, would be to increase CO2 in the atmosphere.
When you take CO2 out of the atmosphere, you reduce crop yields worldwide.
And that's exactly what's going on, and it's deliberate.
And so, when you have a lot of third world nations that have marginal food production right now, they're just barely on the edge.
of producing sufficient calories to keep their people from revolting, and then you start taking CO2 out of the atmosphere, and then you have interference with photosynthesis because of the Tonga volcano, January of this year, which NASA says ejected water vapor into the mesosphere, which is above the stratosphere.
So it's reflecting some amount of sunlight, not enough for you and I to notice, but enough to affect crop yields and temperatures, which is the length of the crop seasons.
So now you're having crop yield failures globally, and then the situation with Russia and the shutdown of natural gas is causing fertilizer shortages in Europe and the United States.
So all of these are coming together, but it's the climate change cult, as I call it, that is the source of dismantling all of this.
And if we don't stop it, a lot of people are going to die on this planet over the next three or four years because of that.
No kidding.
steve bannon
Germany is probably, arguably, with the United States, the most advanced industrial power on earth.
And they've got kind of an engineer's mentality to things.
How did this happen in Germany?
How is Germany like the hotbed of this?
What's your thoughts on that?
And we're going to go to break in about a minute.
mike adams
You're right.
Germans are outstanding engineers.
The German people are brilliant and one of their companies called BASF is the largest chemical conglomerate in the world, but they use natural gas as a feedstock and as an energy source.
To produce the inputs that go into fertilizer.
So the nitrogen-based fertilizers through the Haber-Bosch process.
I think you've had guests on that have spoken about that before.
When this gets shut down, as is already happening across Europe, you don't get fertilizer production because they're answering to the political virtue signaling of the climate change cult.
So it doesn't matter if you're the smartest engineers in the world.
If you don't tap into your natural resources, your country is doomed.
And we got to turn that around here in America too.
steve bannon
Mike Adams, hang on.
I'm going to have Mike Adams when we're rolling to the next hour.
We've got Joe Allen is going to talk about this document at the G20.
Very disturbing document on vaccine passports, medical passports for the world.
We've got Tony Lyons, the publisher, is going to be there with Dr. Robert Malone.
We've got Brian Kennedy.
unidentified
We're absolutely packed.
steve bannon
We're going to start off with Mike Adams from Natural News.
Short commercial break.
We're going to be back in the war room for hour two of the evening show.
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