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Nov. 5, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Battleground EP 174: COVID And Getting To The Bottom Of The Pandemic; Parental Rights Under Attack
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
joe allen
War Room, Battleground.
unidentified
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Trump, Steve Bannon this week said that the hunted are going to become the hunters.
The whole Fauci family is going to be welcomed to investigations and described having paybacks across the board.
That again is a threat towards you and to your family.
How do you respond to that and the people who continually push this case?
anthony fauci
Jonathan, there's no way of adequately responding to such an outlandish statement by someone.
I mean, that is something that borders on being criminal, because he's essentially inciting people to violence against me and my family.
I mean, that is an absolute explicit threat.
I mean, there's nothing you could say about that, how horrible and inappropriate that is.
steve bannon
No, it's both appropriate and it's not horrible.
We're not inciting anybody to violence.
We're telling you you're going to be investigated and held accountable for what you did to your countrymen and what you did to this country.
And we're going to do it through the appropriate adjudication.
I want to bring in Tony Lyons of Sky Horse Press because I think Tony, you know, we've got a lot of investigations going on, a lot of support for investigations, but really a lot of the foundational elements of this have been done by The great team over at Skyhorse.
Tony Lyons, what's your initial response to something like Tony Fauci?
Because you can tell Fauci's going to lure you up and is really going to fight any type of effort to hold him accountable.
tony lyons
Well, so I think that the books that we've published, something like, you know, six really strong, incriminating books show that Dr. Fauci orchestrated the single strongest assault on real science in modern history.
You know, there's obviously there's no science without debate, dissent.
There's no science with a consensus that's built on destroying everyone who disagrees with you.
So his assault on science, his assault on freedom of speech, his censorship, his use of propaganda.
I mean, under Biden and Fauci, the U.S., this country, has seen the biggest assault on freedom of speech, I believe, in 200 years.
The power that they've wielded, the censorship, the deplatforming, propaganda, cancel culture, these things would be the envy of any dictator in history.
And I think Dr. Fauci has to be held accountable for what he's done so that we make sure that these things never happen again.
steve bannon
Let's go, I want to just go through the books and I want to start probably with the Robert F., I don't want to say the magnum opus, but the Robert F. Kennedy book, The Real Anthony Fauci, which we were very proud to help get him back.
Our audience absolutely loved it.
I think it sold a million and a half copies or some extraordinary number, particularly in today's publishing world.
But why don't you walk us through the six and about what case do they make for this guy called Tony Fauci?
tony lyons
Sure.
These books make the case that he set up this system of financial entanglements where it was all about protecting corporate big pharmaceutical profits at the expense of human health.
These books show that he had no interest in protecting the American public, that he had only an interest in protecting the companies that he was essentially working for, and that these companies, over the years, developed so much power that they were controlling the agencies that were supposed to be regulating them.
steve bannon
Okay.
So, but talking about the details, because this thing goes through the historical details in an extraordinary, I mean, people just think it's COVID.
Kennedy goes back to the very beginning of the story and people are absolutely shocked by not just the AIDS situation, but other things that he's done.
Uh, and has been essentially, and, and people, as Sharon was saying, he never came and sued you guys.
He never tried to shut the book down.
He never tried to at least outwardly ban the book.
We know he did a lot of stuff behind the scenes, but, but besides just even the COVID Fauci had a history that nobody knew because he was presented when he stepped forward, he was presented as like America's doctor.
tony lyons
Sure, I mean, for 50 years now, he's always been on the side of the most expensive patent-protected pharmaceuticals.
He's never been concerned with the possible public health benefits of all kinds of therapeutics.
So, in the same way that he orchestrated attacks on anybody who disagreed with him all of these years, so he destroyed scientists' lives, he destroyed doctors', Had them vilified.
He did the same thing with drugs or therapeutics that were not patent protected, where there was no money to be made.
So time after time after time, he opted for a drug or a vaccine that was the most dangerous, that was untested, solely because there was money to be made.
So he's turned public health into a business.
And he's even said that.
I mean, he says that The Godfather is his favorite book.
And the favorite line in that book is, it's just about business.
It's not personal.
And he's proven that time after time after time, starting with the AIDS crisis, even before then, and all the way through.
steve bannon
So we have the Robert Kennedy book and then you have, bracketed, you have the one that's going to come out in a couple of months by Dr. Malone.
Dr. Malone was actually in the system as one of the inventors of mRNA.
His is what my government told me.
His is actually a personal journey, but kind of, it's kind of shattering because he had totally bought into the system.
I mean, he, as Robert Kennedy talks about his family and all their involvement in setting up public health.
And they were very close to the players.
You see his journey, but Malone had dedicated his entire life to be inside the system.
And then you have the CCP COVID-19 and things start to shatter.
Tell us about that.
tony lyons
Well, he's such a great example of what Dr. Fauci has done time after time.
So here you have.
You know, an incredibly well-respected scientist and doctor who's done really high-level research for decades and had been involved in government projects and programs and had done research that was at the very highest levels.
So, if somebody like that can have their whole career ruined because they disagree with Dr. Fauci, because they disagree with Fauci and the CDC and the NIH and their specific narrative, which, as I've said, was geared towards making money, not towards protecting the public.
So, Dr. Robert Malone, you know, is a symbol of what's been happening and he's perhaps the best symbol because he was at such a high level and then was subjected to this playbook which was the same for you know hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of scientists and doctors.
So that playbook was the destruction of science in this country.
And you know, if we can get rid of Fauci and what Fauci stands for, and to get rid of what he stands for, there have to be investigations so that the whole system that he created of captured agencies is dismantled.
So, the destruction of Fauci is really the rebirth of real science in America.
Science based on protecting people, not based on protecting big pharmaceutical power and profits.
steve bannon
Didn't talk about, Dr. Paul Alexander was actually there.
He was actually brought in to the Trump administration to actually work on this process.
He's written this other book, which may, whereas Kennedy's the magnum opus, and Malone gives you this kind of first person account of how Fauci and the whole government reacted.
Alexander actually gives you an inside account and his may be of all three of them the most disturbing of all because he makes the case that they actively, he and his co-author, make the case they actually try to take down President Trump with this.
Correct, Tony?
tony lyons
Right.
So he was he was the number two person in the role of advising the president about COVID policy. And he said that he sat at the table with Dr. Fauci, with the heads of pharmaceutical companies, and that it was clear to them that they had no interest in protecting the public. They were doing what the big pharmaceutical company executives told them to do, that they had sort of weaponized
the whole system, that the military was involved, that the intelligence agencies were involved, and that the pharmaceutical company heads were making the decisions.
And that the decisions were geared, in some sense, towards taking down Trump, not about protecting public health.
That, you know, when Dr. Alexander warned about things like The impact of COVID vaccines on young children and the impact of COVID itself.
So Dr. Alexander said openly to these people at the highest levels of government and to Dr. Fauci that children were at so little risk that there was no logical argument to keep them out of schools, to keep them locked down.
And when you see what's happened to children over the last You know, two and a half years that the children have suffered more than any other group.
And it's really diabolical what's happened.
And Dr. Alexander was in the middle of it.
He saw it firsthand.
And he believed that to a great extent, it was about shutting down Donald Trump.
And it was also about protecting pharmaceutical profits.
And really, nowhere was it about protecting children or other groups.
from public health problems.
steve bannon
There's a, there's a through line through all these different books, including the other titles too, is that, and it's reason it's not just looking, going back and looking at Collins and Fauci and these individuals, it's the institutions, but it's particularly, you don't have regulatory capture.
You actually have big pharma has now merged into this and they're kind of a national Biomedical Security State.
Walk us through why you think they have to be held accountable and how are you going to use the material in this book to support these investigations that are going to go forward.
I already talked about having a press conference that kicks off some of this stuff.
Comer was on Real America's Voice last night with John Solomon that talked about kicking things off on the 14th to kind of lay out an overview of what would happen starting in 2023.
tony lyons
Yes, so I think that the reason that we absolutely need congressional investigations, even though Dr. Fauci has said that he's going to retire, and I believe that he's retiring because he doesn't want to be held accountable and because he knows That Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'
's book, The Real Anthony Fauci, and the Wuhan cover-up that's coming up in January, that these books are so incredibly damning, that they make the argument that he is a true criminal that needs to go to jail.
And he believes that if he leaves, he can escape liability.
And we need to have a Congress and we need them to create these investigations and follow through with them so that he does pay the price for what he's done.
And that we make sure that these entanglements, not only financial entanglements, but the power structure where the companies that are supposed to be regulated by government are actually making the decisions, they're calling the shots.
So that whole system has to be dismantled once and for all so that Americans can look to their government to protect them and not to try to extract money from them and exert power over them and prevent them from engaging in free speech, in dialogue and debate.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Tony, you've been enormously successful doing this, but you took huge risk, and I think that's why Skyhorse is just such an extraordinary publishing house, and you're like one of these throwbacks to the 19th century, one of these people that will not back down in talking truth to power.
How do people follow you on social media and how do they go to Skyhorse to start checking out these books?
Because this is, you know, we got a huge task on Tuesday.
I've got Kelly Ward next from the chairman of the GOP in Arizona, right?
And then I've got Tina Deskovitz on the Monster Liberty about what's got to happen between now and Tuesday to win.
But as I tell the audience, we're dual tracking this because so much going on.
2023 is going to be one of the most intense years in American history. And part of that is because of your courage in publishing these books. Where do people go to find out more about the company, the books, and to follow you?
tony lyons
Yeah, let me just say first that I think that, you know, people have asked me whether I'm afraid of the consequences of saying the things that I say and publishing the books that I publish.
And as I've said before, and I really mean it, I'm much more afraid of living in a country where you can't speak, where there's no dialogue, where there's no possibility of dissent, where science has been destroyed, where public health is denied just for corporate profits, than I am about any consequences.
So people can go to skyhorsepublishing.com.
That's the best place to find out, you know, to find all of our books.
And I'm very grateful that you've let me say these things here and that you've been so brave in not backing down yourself.
steve bannon
I got an easy job.
We have the platform and we just get these heroes and particularly different points of view.
I mean, you came out at the time when these books, people were mocking ridiculous.
So this is conspiracy theory.
This is, we're all wing nuts.
And it turns out now, I don't think that's the case.
You see them trying to, the rats trying to run around and they're trying to, they're trying to, you know, the Atlantic magazine comes out with this thing.
Maybe we should just have an amnesty.
There were so many tough decisions to make.
No, no, no, no, no.
Institutions are going to be held accountable because we've got to clean the institutions up, right?
You've got to get Big Pharma out of here.
You've got to clean these institutions up to be public health like they were.
And the individuals have to be held accountable.
There can't be any other way.
This is what this fight's all about.
So Tony, you're a warrior.
We're really proud to have you on.
tony lyons
Thanks so much.
Yeah, I mean, I really believe that investigations that really get to the bottom of what's happened are the only way that we can make sure, 100% sure, that these things never happen again in this country.
steve bannon
Amen, brother.
Tony Lyons, founder and head of The Sky Horse Publishing.
Thank you, sir.
tony lyons
Thank you.
steve bannon
Before the investigations must come the victory, and then the victory is based upon patriots in these different states and congressional districts.
Let's go to Kelly Ward.
Kelly, you've been somebody that people have thought is a conspiracy theorist, wingnut, kook, yet we're sitting here on the eve of battle here in Arizona for who actually ends up representing the state through the democratic process.
And you guys have, looks like, I'm looking at the polling.
Looks like Kelly Ward may not be such a wingnut, maybe not such a conspiracy theorist, but really tapped into something that the voters in Arizona felt was important.
Tell us about it, ma'am.
unidentified
Right.
Well, tapped into We the People, Steve, just like you do.
People have been sick and tired of not only the leftist, radical, communistic agenda of the Democrats, but the weak.
Spineless, losing, Republican side.
And I've said this to you many times, nobody ever expected me to be a member of the RNC, especially not the RNC.
And we've been working hard to make sure that the Republican Party is something that people can be proud of, that they're proud to say, I'm a Republican.
I stand up for faith, family, and freedom.
I stand up for small government, low taxes, personal responsibility, following the Constitution.
And we worked hard to recruit candidates who reflected those values, who put that America First principle and practice into action.
And we have got in Arizona the best.
I'm just going to put it out there.
I know I'm biased, but we have got the best slate of candidates from U.S.
Senate, to governor, to attorney general, to secretary of state, to treasurer, to superintendent of public instruction, to legislature, all the way down to school board, because we got rid of a lot of the fake Republicans, the rhino Republicans.
The backstabbing Republicans who have exposed themselves again and again and again.
Before August of 2022, and certainly after, doing ads for Democrat after Democrat after Democrat, they have lost all credibility because anyone who claims to be a Republican and goes for these radical leftist policies that would mutilate and maim children, indoctrinate kids in our schools, destroy our border, destroy our economy, is no Republican.
steve bannon
Kelly, I got to tell you, earlier in the day after the morning show we played, because we do a lot of Getter live streams now, and the Savage Angels of Grace Chung and Jane Zirkle did a live stream.
I was on for part of it, probably three quarters of it.
It was a roundtable at the border with Carrie Lake and Abe Hommaday and Fincham and Masters, and you had Sheriff Lamb.
And I was sitting there, given the quality of the discussion, how much people had mastered the facts.
Just the quality of the slate.
You sit there kind of in awe and I'm sitting there thinking...
Kelly Ward had to do this and the Republican establishment beat her up the entire way.
They didn't want any of these people.
And I'm just sitting there going, not only is it a great slate politically, they're on top of a complex situation like the border.
And you can see what the audience there, how impressed they were, how they've mastered the facts.
They understand the details.
They've gotten their hands dirty.
They're ready.
I mean, Carrie Lake's ready to go and her team's ready to go day one.
Masters ready to go in the Senate and be a major player.
How was it?
When you had the money interest, the real estate interest, the banking interest, all your bettors were telling you and beating you up every day that this is just a bunch of kooks.
These are just a bunch of wingnuts.
This is a bunch of conspiracy theory that we're going to get blown out by the Democrats.
Tell me how you work through that.
unidentified
Well, they've been beating me up for over a decade, Steve.
You know it.
They kick me, they punch me, they knock me down, and I come right back up.
They have actually helped to create the strength that I have and that these people that I stand in front of to take the bullets and the arrows for have.
Watching those four, in particular, I call them the Fantastic Four, watching the Fantastic Four moving forward together on the same messaging, talking about solutions that they have as a group to make things better for the people of Arizona, not just Republicans, Independents, Democrats, people who have immigrated here normally, the homeless population, for goodness sake, everyone.
Has been simply spectacular.
I can remember one particular call whenever right before Carrie Lake got the endorsement from President Trump from an outraged donor who said that Karen Robeson had 200 movers and shakers behind her and I had to stop Trump From endorsing Carrie Lake, and I looked at her list.
None of them were Republicans that I could tell.
None of them had ever supported the Republican Party, certainly not since I had been the chairman.
And he expected me to use my political capital to get a rhino installed into one of the highest, most important offices in the country, and I just said no.
Now, you know, they haven't helped me with fundraising.
They haven't helped me with messaging.
They've done everything possible to try to knock me down and knock the people that I support down.
But we are relentless and we are right.
And that's why we're winning.
steve bannon
Kelly, we're on the eve of it.
We've got a weekend.
We understand because just the way that MAGA has got very set ideas in Arizona.
They're game day voters.
I think 65% or 70% of the vote may already be early.
But we need to have a massive game day turnout.
And one of the things we're helping over the weekend to make sure there is a massive MAGA turnout.
Because if MAGA turns out on Tuesday, this is game, set, match.
And I think these could be signature wins if we do it correctly.
For our audience, what needs to happen?
Kelly Ward, you're the head of the team.
You're like the coach.
What needs to happen over the weekend in Arizona to make sure we get a signature win on Tuesday?
unidentified
Well, one, if there's any chance that you are not going to be able to vote on Tuesday, go and vote today.
Either vote early in person or drop off your early ballot if you got one.
Number two, if you go on election day and the poll is closed or it's opening late or there's not enough ballots or they run out of ink, whatever it is, you make the commitment that you are going to sit there, whether it's for one hour, five hours, 12 hours, 24 hours, whatever it takes to be able to cast your vote, you have got to make that commitment.
On the other side, we are pressuring the county elections departments to expose how many resources they do have.
How many ballots do they have on hand?
How much ink do they have?
How many printers do they have?
What's their backup if the printer goes down?
We want that exposed now, not on election day.
We want them to be prepared so that every legal vote can be cast and every voter can feel confident that that vote is going to be counted the right way.
So the biggest thing, show up, take your friends, Make sure that we have massive turnout and then be vigilant about what happens as the counting occurs.
We are going to be ready on our side.
We've got a cadre of attorneys who are ready, willing and able to take on any kind of election, funny business and shenanigans as it happens, not after.
Because what we learned in 2020 is if you wait until after, it's going to be too late and nobody's going to take it on.
So we're going to be doing it during and we're going to make sure that this election is This is simply outstanding.
It's going to be glorious whenever this slate of candidates in Arizona and America First candidates across the United States are elected and actually take office.
steve bannon
Since it's such a bellwether, as I keep saying the other day when I gave this talk before Carrie Lake spoke, is that it's a rendezvous with destiny.
It started in Arizona and it will end on Tuesday the 8th in Arizona, at least this chapter of it, right?
It will go on to bigger things after that.
Given that Katie Hobbs, and let me take even the vested interests away, let me just take the conflicts of interest, let's set that aside.
I'm saying just pure incompetence.
Do you feel comfortable that you're on top of, and do you anticipate, I mean Biden and these guys are already gaslighting us, say well you know Arizona could be two or three days, you know Kerry Lake didn't win the primary, what should people anticipate and what are you guys thinking through ahead of time to make sure that we're not till Saturday afternoon and we have not had Kerry Lake designated a winner with 57% of the vote?
unidentified
Right.
Well, one of the most important things is to get those ballots in either today, if you're going to do it early, do not drop off an early ballot on election day.
If you have not submitted your early ballots before Tuesday, then you wait in line and you vote in person because those votes will be tabulated.
Those early ballots are the things that slow it down, that give Maricopa County and Stephen Richer and his little cronies, The ability to say, well, the law allows us to have five business days to cure these ballots.
Well, if there aren't that many ballots, there's not that much curing to do.
Give us the results and let's move on with our life in a much better direction.
steve bannon
Kelly, Stoney Borelli, on the show he broke the other day this kind of amazing analysis they're doing.
We've got about a minute here.
I'd like to hold you over for a couple minutes on the side.
But Gunny Borelli, he's made this his life's work now to get down into the basics.
How big a deal is that, do you think?
unidentified
I mean, I think it's extremely important.
You know, Sonny is my state senator, in case you didn't know.
I live in his district.
We've been working on this since November 2020.
I wrote a whole book about it called Justified.
The signature verification process, especially in Maricopa County, is, just to put it bluntly, crap.
It is crap.
There is no identification with those signatures.
We had a court case that actually is one of the few that actually, maybe the only one in the country, that had evidence.
We, our experts said, you know, 6% didn't match.
The Democrats' experts said 11% didn't match.
Maricopa County said, we accept them all because our standards are so low that we'll just take anything.
And they proved that again and again, and the information Sonny has is showing that.
steve bannon
Kelly Ward, Chairman of the Republican Party in State of Arizona, please stick with us.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
unidentified
We'll return in the War Room in just a moment.
.
steve bannon
you There's no bigger battleground than the state of Arizona.
Kelly Ward has done an amazing job of leadership.
I don't want to bring this up, but quite frankly, you should be in the United States Senate.
But I tell you what, we'll deal with that on another day.
Because that is one of the biggest screw-ups that President Trump would fully admit.
The screw up there.
Kelly Ward had this thing locked.
Kelly, you know about big game day votes because you blew John McCain out of the water on a game day vote many years ago for the Senate.
I want to go once again.
Where do people go?
How do people follow you on social media the next three or four days?
are going to be three or four of the most important days in the history of Arizona.
Arizona was the last territory that was organized, the last of the lower 48, to become a state, really, in the 20th century.
A lot of people don't know that.
It's got a tremendous heritage, a tremendous history, and tremendous people.
But in all that history, the next four days may be four of the most important days in its history.
How do people follow you?
Where do they go if they got questions?
And how do we get out a massive Game Day Voter Maga?
unidentified
Yeah, well, they can come to my website, for sure.
KellyWard.com, Kelly with an I, because I care about the people across all social media platforms.
It's Kelly Ward, A-Z, Kelly with an I. And of course, follow the A-Z GOP as well.
We are a tough, different Republican Party that one like has never been seen, I think, in this United States.
And I think we should be a model for Republican parties, state parties across this whole great state.
Be fearless.
Operate in faith.
Get great candidates.
Don't accept crap from Republicans.
Don't expect Democrat policies from Republicans, and when they give them to you, replace them.
So, at kellywardaz, kellyward.com, we are coming for the left and for the weak Republicans, because we have got to do everything in our power to put Arizona first and to save America.
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
I can say this unqualified, that of all the GOP state chairmen in this country, and there are many great ones, Kelly Ward is by far the most grassroots and by far the most MAGA.
So Kelly Ward, thank you.
Tremendous job.
Let's run through the tape, ma'am.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
MAGA, MAGA.
That's me.
steve bannon
Oh God, at the home of Ultramega here at the War Room.
Okay, speaking of, okay, I tell you, we have a cold open.
We had the mom show, we had Tina Deskowitz today.
I want to play the cold open for Tina, and then I want to bring her in.
ron desantis
Since I've been governor, probably the most significant flashpoint that we've seen, of course in Florida, but even all over the country, has been our emphasis on the rights of parents to help direct the education and upbringing of their kids.
unidentified
NBC News national political reporter Tyler Kincaid is here to help us make some sense of all of this.
Tyler, it's good to see you and let's start with like the money piece of it, right?
Because it doesn't take 70 bajillion dollars to influence these local school board races.
Talk about why national conservative groups are getting involved now and what this means.
Right.
This is the culmination of two years of work.
And I mean, if you compare this to the numbers that Mark Murray just laid out, it kind of seems like this is nothing.
But it doesn't take a lot of money to flip one of these school board races because so little is spent.
Because most people, I would ask our viewers, how many of you know who your local school board members are?
Most people don't, which is fine.
We have a lot to keep track of in our lives.
But that's kind of what the game is.
It's a race to define, to frame the conversation.
And if you don't have a preconceived notion about what your board is, what they're doing, how that, what kind of job they've done, then it's a lot easier to get people interested in a new candidate and flip the seat.
So that's what these groups are doing.
And a lot of it is, you know, can be effective through just pushing out on social media messaging, email messages, and just talking to neighbors.
We've talked about the conservative piece of this, right?
But you have some reporting that more liberal parents are joining in.
They're pumping money into candidates.
They are not doing it on the same level as the conservatives are, though.
A Democratic campaign strategist told you that comparison is even, quote, apples to apples.
They told you it's like apples to apple seeds, right?
Right.
I mean, the sound you just played showed several big names in the Republican Party talking about this issue.
Governor Ron DeSantis are out there endorsing candidates, too.
And when you talk to Florida Democrats, you know, they'll point out that their chair has endorsed a number of school board candidates, but that doesn't have the same star power as someone like DeSantis.
And then just to put some more numbers behind it, again, it's about drumming up attention on these races.
So Moms for Liberty, for example, they are just one group that has over 100,000 members nationwide, and they're all focused on school board seats.
And so if you only need to flip a few voters, I mean, a lot of times Democrats don't even cast ballots or don't even vote on these down ballot races, even if they turn in a ballot for governor or congressman.
So it's very easy.
And what Republicans are counting on is that there will be a trickle up effect to help their chances at these big ticket races.
Through the course of your reporting on this over the last several weeks, months, et cetera, has anything really surprised you?
Have you found something that you went, oh, wow.
Like that really is not what I expected to see.
Well I think one of it is just beyond school boards.
There's a lot of seats of these hyper local levels that we don't even realize are elected.
I mean, library boards, for example, and it's not every jurisdiction.
School boards, a lot of them are going to be on the ballot next week when voters go out in across the country.
But also there are elections more than half of the year for school boards.
So for those, it's even easier to just get a few thousand people to turn out in a moderate size Okay, welcome.
steve bannon
Hyperlocal, that's been our strategy from day one.
I think it was April 2021.
I said, hey, I think the moms here are going to be the key that picks the lock with these schools.
Moms for Liberty has just done such an incredible job.
Tina Deskowitz, one of the co-founders and heads.
Tina, I think one thing he did get wrong that I wanted to make sure everybody understands.
These are some of the—it may not be a lot of money in them, but these are some of the most intense, in-your-face, highly personal—I have followed all of them closely, and it is take no prisoners.
I mean, people think that the House and poor Carrie Lake and Trudeau Dixon and Donald Trump—hey, you ain't seen nothing yet.
They come at you when you come in as a parents' rights person.
It is.
It's brutal.
And that's why I so admire about these moms and some of the dads, obviously, but really driven by the moms that are saying, hey, this is for our kids.
We have the rights here, not the schools, not the teachers.
And so tell us about it.
Tell us about the intensity and tell us about this.
tina descovich
Yeah, so Tiffany and I are both right now are in Virginia.
We just drove over to Bedford County today.
One of our endorsed candidates, Chris Daniels, actually a dad, was there campaigning with our chapter chair.
They had a tent set up and we were discussing with them and they said by far of all the races going on, and there's even a congressional race in their community, the school board race is the most hotly contested.
Uh, you know, they're just local candidates.
It's a small town.
I think that the opponent of this gentleman, Chris Daniels, has grown up in the area and has a lot of contacts and friends.
And so these races get very personal and it's about their children.
And so unfortunately, sometimes they are very intense.
steve bannon
No, as it should be.
And there at the end, they try to say, you know, that the liberal parents are going to be involved.
Hey, nobody has a problem with that.
That's what this is.
Make even a better, better debate.
They did compare apples to apple seeds because Moms for Liberty and some of these other groups, you guys have really come together and you guys have grown.
And your branches have grown so large.
And part of that, I think, is victory begets victory.
You guys are highly organized.
You really give great support.
People understand when they get involved in this thing, it's going to be very intense.
But I just want to let everybody know, we have followed these intensely.
I think you guys now have 275 endorsed candidates throughout the country.
There's many more there.
We try to put as many on as possible and do live streams of people.
But these are intense races.
These are, and people have to be, I mean, Daniels knows, they really know their stuff.
I mean, they really get into what actually goes on in a school board, what the policies are, the budget, and particularly the content that's being taught.
So it's extraordinary.
And I recommend everybody, even if you don't have kids in school, you ought to start supporting this and maybe even think about running.
Tina Desserts.
tina descovich
Yeah, Steve, I'm going to push back a little bit on the apples to apple seeds.
You know, they're comparing us.
Yes, we've had great success.
You know, we are in 42 states now, 100,000 members, you know, as he said in the interview.
We have, you know, like you said, 270 endorsed candidates around the country.
But let's really look at what's going on.
Teachers unions are in every single community in every single school district in the country, and they all have their candidates.
You know, we are just two years old.
We are not that old.
We're not in all 50 states.
We're in 42 states, and we're not in all 3,000 counties yet.
steve bannon
So you're saying when you compare it to the parents, it may be apple to apple seeds, but the real opponent here is the teachers union.
This is what I think people miss.
Why don't teachers unions support parents' rights?
tina descovich
Because they are against parents' rights.
They are for teachers' unions.
Tiffany always says it's a jobs program.
They are for the rights of teachers, which, unfortunately, nowadays, conflicts a lot when it comes to what's best for children and what families want.
Teachers' unions are no friends to family and children.
Just look at their agenda from over the summer.
You know this.
They put abortion rights on On their list of things they're worried about, international relations are on their list of things they're worried about.
They're not worried about public education.
But teachers unions for decades have been putting their members on school board and conservative people and parents haven't paid attention.
They just thought teachers union.
Oh, that's my teacher.
It's a nice person.
unidentified
Sure.
tina descovich
They should be on the school board.
You don't need the same school serving on a school board that you do teaching five year olds in a classroom.
School boards are to oversee the budget.
School boards are to create policy.
A teacher of five-year-olds may be a lovely woman, but she doesn't have the skills and the capacity to run a school district, and so all she's there to do when you elect union candidates to school board is to do the bidding of the teachers' union, not what's best for children.
It's time this changes, and that's why Moms for Liberty was created.
steve bannon
Tina, we got, what, five days before Tuesday.
How can people follow this?
First off, where do they go to find out the scale of this?
And how do they support, learn more about, but also support the candidates and also Moms4Liberty?
Because I'll tell you, as I go around and do campaigning or meet people and support causes, Every time I go somewhere, I get asked about the Parents' Rights Movement, and I specifically get asked about Moms for Liberty.
So where do people go, and particularly to figure out what's going to happen between now and next Tuesday, and how they can help?
tina descovich
Yeah, always.
You can go to momsforliberty.org, follow us on social media.
We'll be live-tweeting, Facebook-living on our YouTube channel, I think, even.
We're working on that now, election day and election night, as polls are closing and our people are out at polls working.
It's going to be a really exciting day for 270 of our candidates.
You know, we don't fund.
We are a non-profit.
We do not fund these candidates.
And so if you directly want to find the candidates, you need to reach out to your local chapter.
And you can do that on momsforliberty.org.
We have a map.
You just click on your chapter.
You connect with them.
And you ask them, which candidates are you endorsing?
And then you can find the candidates in your community if you want to support them, sign wave for them, do the things that you need to do to get them across the finish line.
steve bannon
I want to make sure people can get access to what you guys are doing on an ongoing basis.
Is that going to be the Facebook page for Moms4Liberty?
Is that the easiest place to go?
tina descovich
Yeah, for Election Day right now, the best place to go is Moms4Liberty.org.
steve bannon
Okay, perfect.
Tina, thank you so much for coming on and for the fight that you and Tiffany have been doing.
It's very inspirational what you've stood up in just a couple of years to really have an impact.
I think probably maybe the most important impact coming out of this election is the take back of schools.
So it's just, it's incredible.
And the parents' rights movement.
As I tell folks all the time when I meet with them, I say, it's just at the top of the first inning.
This thing's got a long way to go.
Long way to go.
Trust me.
And it's not going to be, you're not going to be welcome with open arms.
tina descovich
We're in it for the long game.
We're moms.
We're in it for our kids.
So yeah, we're thrilled.
We're honored to lead this organization.
We love our families, our parents, our kids, but we also understand we are in it for a very long game and we got a lot of work to do.
steve bannon
Tina Deskovitz.
Thank you very much, Tina.
Honored always to have you on here.
Incredible group.
Just incredible.
And those races, that's why I want you to go and find out as much about these school board races as possible.
They are tough.
The ones that took place in the spring, the ones in Texas, the ones in Florida, of course, in other parts of the country too, but man, they are tough and it takes a lot of courage to go and do it.
I want to get in Joe Allen.
Joe, you know, is our head of all things transhumanism.
And I've actually pulled him off because he's got so much stuff he's working on because it's very important.
Joe joins us from Pennsylvania.
And Joe, we weren't trying to be funny or to be cute about this, but really the reason I asked you to come from out west to get back to the East Coast and to follow this is that it's very important.
I mean, we don't call Federman the cyborg to either make fun of his condition or to make fun of his recovery, but it's really something we find quite disturbing.
And it's been, one, it's disturbing about the thing itself, what actually it is, which is kind of a man-machine merger.
But it's also disturbing about how the media has kind of not just covered it up, but kind of run as a Praetorian guard around this.
And this gets to the issue of transhumanism and particularly what our government's doing and what companies are doing since, you know, the executive order was signed a couple of months ago in the White House and they made it seem like, oh, this is going to be the cure for cancer when no, it's really about a whole of government.
Major push into transhumanism, which is totally unregulated right now.
So give us an update.
Where do we stand with Fetterman?
Is he back campaigning?
I know you've watched him personally in all the video.
What is the latest on the cyborg in the race for the Senate in Pennsylvania?
joe allen
Well, Steve, he's pretty much been absent from the physical sort of appearances here in Philadelphia.
I was at one of the rallies about five days ago.
That was the last in-person rally that he held.
I believe he was on The View today, so maybe he's looking for sympathy votes there with the witch coven of The View.
And also, yesterday made big news that Oprah endorsed Fetterman.
It was really just kind of a passing comment.
She didn't have a whole lot to say about it other than if she lived in Pennsylvania, she would vote for Fetterman.
But I think people made a lot of hay out of it because, of course, Dr. Oz got his start on Oprah before spinning off into his own show.
And so a lot of people thought that was a really significant thing, I guess symbolically.
steve bannon
But Joe, hang over a second.
Hang over a second.
Oz has been everywhere.
And look, Oz wasn't really the first choice of MAGA or this show or this audience, but he's the candidate.
And one thing he's doing, he is everywhere.
He's doing multiple events a day.
He's doing from town halls to the meet and greets, all of that.
Are you telling me, I sent you there to follow Fetterman and you said, hey, he's not doing a lot.
Is he just in his basement hooking in electronically?
Because what I've seen on video, and I'm just being blunt, it's not just the hesitation of speech.
There is a major problem with the thought patterns of this individual.
You can't say it any other way.
This is not a speech problem.
This is a brain problem.
And I'm no brain surgeon, but I'm smart enough to be able to say that.
Joe Allen, your assessment.
joe allen
You know, I actually interviewed a couple, they work in healthcare, and one was very insightful about it.
She was talking about how obvious it was, it was beyond a speech problem, that he didn't just stumble over his words.
It's pretty clear that he has a difficult time formulating thoughts at all.
And then in his responses, it's not just a matter of smushing words together, as he would say.
A lot of it is just simply incoherent.
It seems to represent just scattered thoughts in general.
So a lot of voters on the left are actually really concerned about this.
After the debate, Oz passed Fetterman by two points, according to an Emerson poll.
I think that was published two days ago.
And I think that that really shows how Democrats, hardcore Democrats, are really disturbed.
That interview that we played where we had the guy calling into NPR talking about he's a Democrat, working class Democrat, and he feels cheated that they ran Oz instead of of land, I'm sorry, that they ran Fetterman.
instead of lamb because Fetterman really isn't up for the job.
He's simply not there.
So that's pretty much a universal sentiment here in Pennsylvania.
I've talked to people on the left.
I've talked to a lot more people on the right just because I've been to these Oz events quite a bit more because they're the only events to go to.
But I will say, you know, tomorrow I'll be in Pittsburgh.
Fetterman and Obama are running, going to hold kind of a dual rally at a location.
They just texted me just a few moments ago, actually.
They held it secret.
So I'll be there, and then right after that, same day, there's a Trump rally in Latrobe, Pennsylvania.
So I'll be there, and I'll be writing it up.
It should appear in the Federalist on Monday.
So there will be one more in-person appearance from the Oprah-endorsed cyborg John Fetterman, and I will be there.
So we'll see what happens.
I personally am quite optimistic that the red wave will hit Pennsylvania.
I think all the voters here are too, the Republican voters, but the one concern I hear a lot is that despite the likely high turnout of Republican voters, people are really concerned about the possibility of voter fraud erasing those gains.
So we'll see what happens.
We've got, what, four or five days?
We'll see what happens, but I'm actually pretty optimistic.
steve bannon
I want you to give your social media how they get you, but I gotta tell you I'm shocked that, and going back, we'd be on a Friday evening, early Friday evening, and they got the Obama thing tomorrow, and maybe one other.
I mean, this is a dead heat horse race, right?
Maybe Oz is up a couple, but this is all about turnout.
And the guy clearly is not up to it, or he's not doing, this would be the type of thing you'd be doing five events a day, six events a day, all over the state, and he's just not.
What's your social media, Joe?
We gotta bounce.
joe allen
You can find me at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z at Gitter and Twitter.
I'm actually going to repost and have right at the top of my page a few of the interviews I've done at these Oz rallies.
Whatever you think about Oz, I will say there's a lot of energy and enthusiasm there, so hopefully that translates out into votes.
So we'll see what happens.
Thank you very much, Steve.
steve bannon
Votes for Oz and votes for Doug Mastriano.
Joe, thank you.
You've got to be a pretty good on-the-ground political correspondent.
I guess we can teach a boy from Tennessee anything.
Okay, tomorrow morning we're gonna be back.
It's gonna be on fire.
We've got MTG.
We're gonna have a bunch of surprises tomorrow.
So tomorrow's two hours and then we're going to be up in ghetto throughout the day.
President Trump has a big rally in Pennsylvania.
This weekend is going to be lit.
This is just the first day.
So come back in the War Room tomorrow, 10 a.m.
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