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Oct. 26, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Battleground EP 166: Fauci Under Fire, And What Is Next For The Trials To Come
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bradley thayer
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edward dowd
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steve bannon
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steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room, Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
Because basically this is him trying to explain a policy that at its core is a paradox.
Both addressing financial stability, allowing some sort of easing, unwinding of positions that are untenable in the current regime, while also fighting inflation using very similar types of tools in terms of raising rates.
It is mind-spinning.
I can see why they're very, very sensitive about the concept of fiscal dominance right now.
I can see why they are.
Almost immediately the questions were asked at the Bank of England, will they accommodate what this government is going to do?
And when they first came up with the gilt market operation, they were accused of just that, pandering, accommodating what fiscal policy makers had decided to do.
So I think it's really, really difficult for them to do now.
And I think that's why we're seeing the kind of language, the approach that we've seen from Governor Bailey.
That's my guess.
I can't get inside his head.
The sense I get from him and the way he spoke yesterday just sounded like a man who was very, very sensitive to the idea that they might be contributing to so-called fiscal dominance.
There is an argument that for decades central banks helped offset a lack of action from fiscal policy makers, a lack of action from Washington D.C.
For decades.
Over the parliament.
And this is a question now of can the central banks pull back and stop giving the fiscal policy makers a pass and risk financial instability and risk perhaps disrupting things to such an extent that imperils the basic functionings of a capitalistic society.
And this is going to become an increasing debate in the months There's something else that's going on here.
I've just been to Buckingham Palace and accepted His Majesty the King's invitation to form a government in his name.
It is only right to explain why I'm standing here as your new Prime Minister.
Right now, our country is facing a profound economic crisis.
The aftermath of Covid still lingers.
Putin's war in Ukraine has destabilised energy markets and supply chains the world over.
I want to pay tribute to my predecessor, Liz Truss.
She was not wrong to want to improve growth in this country.
It is a noble aim.
And I admired her restlessness to create change.
But some mistakes were made.
Not born of ill will or bad intentions.
Quite the opposite in fact.
But mistakes nonetheless.
And I have been elected as leader of my party and your Prime Minister in part to fix them.
And that work begins immediately.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
OK, welcome.
It's Tuesday, 25 October in the year of our Lord 2022.
Let me tell you, setting the entire framework, you got these big debates tonight in Pennsylvania and in Michigan and New York, these these huge industrial states in the Midwest and the Northeast.
But the framework of what we've got is an economic, a global economic and financial crisis.
And some people are being straight with people and other people are not.
Right there, you saw Julie Abramowitz.
I keep saying that's the most important two minutes in all television this year, where somebody finally spoke the truth about this thing called fiscal domination, where you've had decades of these politicians.
And remember, it's the conservative party just got turfed out there by the capital markets, really the hedge funds.
You've had this fiscal domination.
This is irresponsible spending, spending, spending.
And you've had the central banks that have worked in unison to support it.
And now the do bill is here.
And the people throughout the world, particularly the people that didn't participate that didn't participate in the in the rise of the assets, because you're not the you're not the you're not the dominant class.
You're not the ruling class.
You were left out of that.
Well, guess what?
You're going to end up paying for this.
I want to go to Ed Dowd, one of the smartest guys, a former portfolio manager and one of the biggest asset managers in the world.
A very smart guy has been doing tremendous work.
About the vaccine, about the COVID lockdowns, about mortality rates.
He's really gotten into the numbers because he can understand how Wall Street will respond to all this with pension funds, with the insurance companies, all of it.
But Ed, you've got a fairly grim outlook on the global economy.
I wanted to bring you in because tonight's debates in uh and we had it all day long in MSNBC you know they're they got reporters over and say well how is the democracy playing nobody's talking about how is abortion playing they're really not talking about it they're talking about kitchen table issues of inflation the economy and now people starting to worry about are the jobs going to be there so ed walk me through your assessment of and you just saw sunak the new prime minister
Who is stepping into the middle of a firestorm in the United Kingdom.
But I keep using this as an example to Republican politicians.
You're one or two moves away that are not thought through and not backed up by mathematics and understanding what reality is to leading your party to get absolutely crushed.
Ed Dowd, your assessment.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
Well, the cold open was very telling and I liked what she said about Central banks basically propping up the fiscal side of the equation for the last 12 years.
And there's been unprecedented coordination between central banks.
And now the bill's come due.
And what you saw in the UK several weeks ago with their pension fund crisis is the beginning of every man for himself.
That's going to lead to currency wars, which we're already seeing, the strength of the dollar being the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry.
And so the coordination is over.
And now we're going to see what usually happens in these types of things is kinetic action at some point.
But let's just go back to the great financial crisis.
Ever since the financial crisis, the central banks working in conjunction with the governments have basically created a zombie economy globally.
And those who got wealthy were those who were closest to the printing machine.
C-suite executives, hedge fund managers, asset managers, real estate developers.
But if you're in the real economy doing real things, you've been falling behind for the last 12 years.
And that's why the populist national movement has been rising.
There's been a game afoot and the game is coming to an end.
And all you need to understand to see what's going on is the central bankers and politicians will use every excuse to blame what's going to come on that rather than themselves.
And the blame lies at their feet, bottom line.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
When you say blame, what do you anticipate?
Let's take the lab experiment right now.
The Petri dish is the United Kingdom, because that's the United States.
Now look, we have very different economic, obviously, firepower and strength and size and scale.
But they've, you know, they've gone to this kind of radical net zero carbon energy policy.
They've shut themselves off.
They've had declining productivity and really GDP, I guess, per capita for decades and decades and decades as their elites look the other way.
Now they try to come in and go back to the Thatcher playbook of tax cuts and deregulation when they're running these massive budget deficits, not just from COVID.
Everybody tries to blame it on COVID.
COVID's part of it, but they just have a, they have a nanny state that's in everywhere.
They're just too overextended and they don't have the tax revenue or the, or the tax base to support their, their spending.
So them as an example, how do you, how do you look at them and how you extrapolate that out to the United States, which is, you know, all the articles now, uh, you know, in The Hill and Politico are talking about the debt ceiling, the big fight that's going to come after the Democrats get turfed out.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
Well, the problem that the UK has is the problem that we have, but it's going to come to us last.
They have a debt problem, and that debt problem is insolvency at some point.
So what people don't seem to understand, and most of the world doesn't understand, is that the social contract has been broken.
So all those pensions that need to be paid, They'll get paid, either they default on the pensions or they inflate the pensions away, meaning you get paid your fixed payment, but it's worthless because inflation is so high.
And what we saw a couple of weeks ago was what's been the low interest rate policy for the last 12 years come home to roost.
These pensions needed to meet their obligations, so they used leverage and juicing of returns to get the return goal they needed.
And that's now there's a giant margin call going on because they didn't ever expect that this would be occurring.
And so that's that's why the UK had to pull a 180.
They bailed out their pension funds, basically.
And, you know, that's going to start happening globally.
And it's just all going to come unwound in a either slow or fast fashion.
And the happy talk on the economy we're going to see this Friday with the GDP number around 2 plus percent is all garbage.
I'm looking at Q1 and Q2.
It's going to be a disaster in the U.S., minus 2 to 3 percent, quarter over quarter, with Q2 as the trough.
So it's coming here in a minor way, and this is going to unfold over, you know, the next 5 to 10 years.
But it's not good.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Oh, you're anticipating there's going to be a big positive print on GDP?
It's not going to be three quarters in a row negative?
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
No.
So it's going to be two plus percent, but that's due to the strong dollar and foreign investment consumption.
It's going to be not a big part of that.
But looking forward, and that's what we do, Q1 and Q2 are going to be a disaster.
And right now Goldman Sachs will use them as the typical economist is looking at plus one to 2% in Q1 and Q2.
The problem here is this.
The cake has already been baked.
What do I mean by that?
The Fed has tightened interest rates considerably and the Goldman Sachs financial conditions index is up 400 basis points on the year.
Every 90 basis points of tightening in financial conditions is a one to two percent hit to GDP four quarters forward.
So that bill is coming due Q1, Q2.
It's baked into the cake.
There's nothing we can do to avoid it.
We're seeing housing starting to roll over.
The real economy is a disaster.
And there may be a stock market rally because the Fed tried to play some games on Friday.
Some of the progressive elements of the Fed.
to help the Biden administration leaked out on Friday that they're going to do 75 in November and then maybe 50 in December to signal that maybe this is the end of the rate hike cycle.
But that gave the markets a little euphoria.
So we may see a rally here into the elections because they're doing everything in their power to hold this thing up into the elections.
The Bank of Japan on Friday had to come in and do a huge massive currency intervention, primarily because they're pegged to 25 basis points.
And if that peg is lost, bond markets around the world are going to implode.
So that's a precarious situation that hedge funds are following.
So I suspect it's going to, you know, they're going to try to keep this thing together with, you know, gum and tinfoil and glue and put on a pretty picture before the elections.
After that, the real economy will come home to roost and earnings are going to implode next first half of the year.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ed, before I lose you, talk to me about any updates on your studies.
I know you've got the book coming out on the mortality issue.
You've been at the leading thing that something's not right here.
Fauci is back on TV this afternoon.
They're rolling him back out to push hard.
Uh, not just the new boosters and I, you know, Biden got his today to push the Vax because nobody's really taken the new booster to also talk about, I think there's a triple threat now coming.
They think, you know, COVID, uh, they've got a respiratory disease and the flu are all going to come.
And they're trying to pitch this now, uh, in the, uh, to, to, you know, as fear porn prior to the election.
What, what, any updates from you on the mortality situation?
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
So it's running around 10 to 20% globally.
We expect it to increase into the flu season as immunity systems are weakened.
So excess mortality, we're expecting to rise into this 4th and 1st quarter.
Additionally, As far as I'm concerned, when the book comes out, we'll show it.
Basically, it was detrimental to your health to be employed in 2021 and 2022, primarily because of vaccine mandates.
A generally much healthier population historically experienced higher mortality than the general overall population and disability like I've never seen before.
The working age folks experienced Not working age.
Actual employed people, according to the U.S.
Bureau of Labor Statistics, experienced an increase in their disability rate of 25% versus 8% for the overall U.S.
population.
The case has been made.
These vaccines need to be pulled.
The question now is to get this information out.
That's one thing.
The second thing is my partners and my hedge fund are putting on a website all this data.
It's going to be free to the world.
We're creating the Humanity Project and the Vaccine Damage Project.
This is just data-driven.
We're going to try to keep our opinions to a minimum and people can grab the data and see for themselves what a disaster this has been globally in Europe, the U.S.
We do an extensive study on the Eurostat data, the UK data and the U.S.
data.
So it'll be there for all to see.
And the bottom line is this.
In 2021 and 2022, if you were working age, your excess mortality was above that of 2020, and it shouldn't have been.
unidentified
It just shouldn't have been.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
What's the timing on the launch?
Because I know our audience would want to be all over it.
What's the timing on the launch of the website?
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
Well, they're going to be in the book.
The links are going to be in the book.
The book is due out December 10th, hopefully.
Fingers crossed.
We've got supply chain issues and whatnot, but we hope to go live on that in the next week or two, and then I can come back on and talk about that.
unidentified
Perfect.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
The book is Cause Unknown, The Epidemic of Sudden Death in 21 and 2022, and we're racing against time to get it out as quickly as possible because we want to basically change The frame of the debate.
And the frame of the debate is this.
Who cares why it happened or who did it?
It's happened, and the data that we have, clearly the global governments have as well, but they don't seem to be doing anything about it.
So at this point, there is a cover-up and a crime and negligence.
That is beyond a doubt at this point.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Ed Dowd, how do people get to your site, your writings, and you on social media?
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
I'm on Getter, at Edward Dowd.
And I have a website called TheyLiedPeopleDied.com.
And when the links go live for the Vaccine Damage Project, I'll get those out as well.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, we'll have you back on for that.
Ed Dowd, thank you very much for your market analysis and also for all the great work you're doing on excess mortality.
unidentified
Thank you.
edward dowd ▲ ● ▼
Take care, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to bring in Natalie, our executive editor and the co-host of The Worm.
Hey, Natalie, a couple things.
Number one, the independent newspaper I'm not happy with your inaugural interview yesterday where we talked about Fauci, you talked about issues, and I said, hey, these investigations are coming, they have to understand that.
And maybe we can broaden it out to the wife and the daughter, but definitely to Fauci.
They took a huge headline in the independent newspaper, Bannon says, Fauci to be hunted, Fauci family to be hunted.
The independents have to embrace this, Natalie.
You agree that That given his performance, that there will be significant and deep and meaningful and fair investigations of Dr. Fauci with the new Congress in the coming year, ma'am?
unidentified
Oh, definitely.
And I don't think that we should sell ourselves short by any means in the sense that The more intense and in-depth and unbiased these investigations are, the more information we will actually be able to find because there is such a trove of information, all these roads that lead to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, to the Chinese Communist Party, to gain-of-function research.
And if you trace those roads back, The, I would say, kind of sugar daddy of a lot of this research that was going on was Anthony Fauci, of course, given his lead role at the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
It's very, very funny to me that the mainstream media continues to run cover for Anthony Fauci, when, in reality, if you look at government databases, you can look at the grants, the millions of dollars that went to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, specifically the bat lady, Shih-Jung Lee, it's indisputable that Anthony Fauci was behind it.
I really don't understand why the mainstream media refuses to report on that, but instead the only time they say Fauci nine times out of ten it's a name like yours or mine attached to it and criticizing how we actually have the strength to go after someone like him, of course, the highest paid Public servant who will continue to get about a $300,000 a year payment once he retires and leaves the National Institutes of Health.
But again, these investigations really will find substantive information.
I will say a lot of the deep hard work has already been done in terms of the origins of COVID-19 and how Fauci played such a critical role in this.
But I think with the power of the subpoena, Assuming that groups like EcoHealth Alliance actually comply with them, which they haven't, we'll be able to find out a lot more.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I'm going to have Dr. Bradley Thayer here in a moment about a new strategy that he believes is very important to confront Xi and even the consolidation of power under Xi, this kind of new edge they're taking.
But I want to go back to something you put up today because the very first thing that happened when Sunak stood in front of Ten Downing and actually took the deck in the con from trust, he was talking about the economic crisis they have.
The commentator afterwards, talking to the MSNBC correspondent, the first question she had, she said, well, they had this complicated, very complex economic and financial problem, and one of it is actually figuring out what they can afford to spend.
Do you think this means they're going to have to make tough choices about Ukraine?
That's the top of the mind of MSNBC, Ukraine.
And the guy said, you know what's interesting?
That's going to be a very tough sell to the British people because they're looking for a cold winter, inflation's out of control, highest in 40 years, their prices are almost 11% price increases.
He says, that's going to be a tough sell.
But in Biden's congratulatory message to him, he says, we're really looking forward to having a partner here with us on Ukraine.
Biden actually mentions it in a three line Thank you.
Talk to me about this investigation that you've started, you've got up now on War Room right now as an exclusive about the Ukraine, ma'am.
unidentified
Yeah, people can go to warroom.org to check it out.
We have a lot of reports coming out throughout the day, but I think this one is particularly salient with the current news cycle.
And really, it's an example of full-blown information warfare coming out of the Democratic Party.
Really, on behalf of Ukraine, what you see here is an individual who used to work or actually still works for Blue Star Strategies, which is a Democratic-run consulting firm that reeks, frankly, of corruption, but particularly tied to Hunter Biden and Burisma.
Emails from Hunter Biden's hard drive show that he was an instrumental figure and getting Burisma to decide to hire Blue Star Strategies sort of as a PR firm to help it avoid really any meaningful prosecution or just really being looked into for the corruption that it was engaging in.
It was actually, Blue Star Strategies actually was under a Department of Justice probe for engaging in illegal lobbying on behalf of Burisma.
So Jeffrey Gedman, who was a senior advisor for Blue Star Strategies was just appointed by Joe Biden as a nominee to serve on the International Media Advisory Board at the US Agency for Global Media.
So people may not know what this board is.
It's sort of one of those swampy DC organizations that.
You probably haven't heard of, but it actually is a very powerful group in that it is the sole advisory board to the CEO at the US Agency for Global Media, which uses its nearly billion-dollar budget to run programming including Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe, in Voice of America, which reaches hundreds of millions of people across the world each day.
But what's really interesting is that this individual, again, not only highly compromised when it comes to his ties to Hunter Biden and Blue Star strategies, but really for decades has been pushing a hardcore pro-Ukraine line in the American press, always since 2010 trying to get the United States to offer military support, financial support, political support to Ukraine, always attacking Russia when he has the opportunity, participating in Ukraine-based
forums that are really aimed at kind of boosting Ukraine's international profile and image.
So I think this is just a perfect example, not only of people who are connected to Hunter Biden getting these political appointments within the Biden regime, but really how I think you're seeing a lot of these institutions be used to put out, I mean, let's call it what it is, I think political propaganda in support of Ukraine.
Nancy Pelosi just announced that she'd vowed to give even more money to Ukraine by the end of the year.
So I think it shows you where the focus of the White House is and the Democratic Party is, and it's Ukraine.
It's not Americans, it's Ukraine.
I think people like Jeffrey Gedman represent how it's always been like that.
These globalists have always been looking overseas, trying to find ways to get U.S.
taxpayer dollars to help defend the borders of basically every other country except the United States.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
You know, I noticed on Getter today, I was on my feet and I noticed, because I follow you and I noticed how that you already had linked to the Nancy Pelosi.
And this is all about, they're going to get turfed out for a generation.
And she's thrown down already in the lame duck.
She's got a huge amount of money.
She wants to make sure they get to Ukraine or get even more.
It should be noted by the audience yesterday, the progressives put out, for the first time, kind of met the war room and saying, hey, we got to get To the negotiating table, we've got to stop the gunfire, we've got to make a deal for everybody.
And man, the firestorm in Washington, D.C., about that, the poor progressives never knew what hit them.
They tried to walk it back a little bit by putting an addendum to the letter late in the afternoon, and that wasn't good enough.
And then they withdrew it, I think, this morning, because they absolutely got browbeaten.
It tells you how radioactive this Ukraine thing is.
The UK and the rest of Europe are not going to be with us.
They don't have the money and it's not that big a priority.
They're going to want the United States to step up more and more in the lame duck.
This is going to be huge.
I've got Dr. Thayer.
I'm going to bring him on after the break.
But Natalie, I think, and I can say this for someone who spends an enormous amount of time in this area.
You are probably the top investigative reporter out there for connecting all the dots of the many different types of influence peddling and influence operations of the Chinese Communist Party in the United States, whether it's the U.S.
government, information, colleges, the Confucius Institute, all these.
As you see Xi, the rise of Xi, and we'll get to Thayer, just give me, tell the audience, how deep is the influence operation of the Chinese Communist Party in the United States, ma'am?
unidentified
Well, Steve, you could probably have me on your show twice a day for five years, for two blocks each show, and I probably wouldn't even scratch the surface of Chinese Communist Party infiltration in the United States.
It's very regrettable, but this country is, I mean, radioactive when it comes to Chinese Communist Party influence, and it's all by design.
It goes back to the Chinese Communist Party strategy, really unrestricted and unconventional warfare, where they're really trying to overtake the United States and become The new global hegemon without actually having to fire a shot, you know, infiltrating the United States from within is the most powerful way to do that.
And I think the corruption goes all the way to the top.
I mean, it was Joe Biden in 2011 who wrote an op-ed for the New York Times that said China's rise isn't our demise.
And I think history and the future, too, will show that that's not the case for most Americans.
Most Americans, maybe Hunter Biden, Natalie.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Hang on for a second, Natalie.
We're gonna take a short commercial break.
We're gonna bring in Dr. Bradley Thayer to walk us through the new strategy he believes that either the Biden regime or the Republicans are coming to the new Congress, somebody's gotta take.
Short commercial break.
Natalie Winters, Stephen K. Bannon, War Room Battleground.
unidentified
We will join you back in a moment.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Natalie Winters in her reporting, her investigations have shown that she's not given to hyperbole.
If she doesn't have the receipts, she doesn't say it.
Natalie, that may be the most disturbing thing you've ever said on War Room.
To say that you could come on every day for two segments, every show, And in five years, do it for five years and then only scratch the surface.
The Chinese Communist Party understands that We're their existential threat, and they're our existential threat.
But they have taken an active program of unrestricted warfare to look at information war, cyber war, economic war, and full infiltration to have, not just elite, to really have elite capture, I guess is the way to say it.
Is there any doubt in your mind as you've done this research over the last couple of years and broken all these stories, ma'am?
unidentified
No, not at all.
And I think the scarier part It's really the second derivation of elite capture, which to me is the idea of elite merger, which is the concept that American elites, epitomized by Joe Biden, who really have worked closely with the Chinese Communist Party both publicly and privately, how they really have kind of taken on the tactics that the Chinese Communist Party uses against their own people against Americans now.
The Three Warfares Doctrine, which is sort of the guiding principle for a lot of Chinese military actions, they engage in legal warfare, media warfare, and psychological warfare.
And I think you see all those three things occurring here in the United States very intensely.
I mean, legally, obviously, election activists are being, you know, attacked by the Department of Justice. You see political persecution. In terms of psychological warfare, look at COVID-19 lockdowns and these vaccine pressure campaigns and media warfare.
I don't think I have to explain that to anyone who watches the clips you play from MSNBC.
But I think that's what's really, really scary now. And that's why you see the Biden regime comporting themselves in such a totalitarian manner, because they look up to the Chinese Communist Party. You know, they get into business with them, not just because it pays to be in business with the Chinese Communist Party, but because they envy the level of power and control that they have over their own people. So, yeah, it's very true that I could come
on this show a lot more often and talk about Chinese Communist Party infiltration, all the way from kindergarten classrooms, obviously, to colleges, to the assault that they're making now on our farmland and agriculture officials.
And it goes all the way to the White House.
You know, the Chinese Communist Party knows what they're doing.
And unfortunately, our elite ruling class doesn't really have any allegiance to America anymore.
I don't think that's an outlandish statement to say.
So it's a lot easier for the Chinese Communist Party to get their job done when American elites really don't even believe in America.
They think it's an idea as opposed to a country in the first place.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So let me bring in Dr. Bradley Thayer with this great piece you have in the hill, but with Natalie's pretty systematic layout.
That was what they did even before Xi's intense concentration of power in the brooming of any kind of opposition.
And if you read and read your analysis, they make no bones about the fact that they're at war with us now.
If that's ever been hidden, you just have to read these speeches over the 20th Party Congress.
So given what Natalie's laid out, it looks like they're winning anyway.
Why would they need a more aggressive strategy to really press toward kinetic war away from irregular warfare, unrestricted warfare, where it looks like they're winning?
Why would they press the bet to go all the way to kinetic war or even more aggressive Dr. Thayer?
And in your theory, why does Biden need to take a new strategy?
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
Well, Steve, wonderful to be with you again.
They don't want to go to kinetic warfare if they can achieve their aims as they have thus far through non-kinetic means.
So that's the first, I think, point to keep in mind.
Xi's established himself, as you've noted, of course, this week in absolute control of the Chinese Communist Party.
So he's in control of China.
He has economic problems, other problems on the horizon, but he thinks that things are moving his way, and as long as he stays healthy, he's going to be the leader of China.
He has, in the speech, of course, that he provided, and as we've seen more recently, targeted, of course, the United States, our allies in the Indo-Pacific, and Taiwan that he wants to conquer.
Taiwan and ensure that it is not a state but is absorbed under the control of the Chinese Communist Party. Those are his aims. If he's going to be able to get it non-kinetically, that's obviously from his perspective very positively.
Taiwan, of course, and his other territorial expansion in the Indo-Pacific should be met with resistance, but that requires leadership.
And one of the arguments I was making in the Hill piece is that we need leadership, obviously, on this issue from the Biden administration or from the Republicans or from He's thrown down the gauntlet.
He's telling us as he has, he's telling us explicitly, as explicit as he's ever going to be, that we're his enemy and he's out for us.
And we need a response.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
I want to make sure that the audience understands this.
What in the speech, go back to his speeches over the weekend, pull out in this speech where you say he makes it very clear that we're the existential threat and that we have to be dealt with.
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
He's targeting hegemony.
So you'll see hegemony is a stalking horse for the United States.
So you'll see in that speech there are references to the fact that China can't accept hegemony of any other entity in international politics.
Second point, he talks about China is now moving towards its second centenary goal, which is a modern socialist country and the rejuvenation of the Chinese nation.
That's his claim that China can now run the world, that China has the power as a modern socialist country to set the norms, the principles, the rules of the road for international politics, overturning what the British and the Americans established at the end of World War II, and it served us well in the Cold War and after.
And then thirdly, explicitly he's targeting Taiwan.
So he's saying that Taiwan, the status quo, will not be allowed to be maintained.
He's going to change the status quo in Taiwan, like Hong Kong, Macau, many other aspects that will fall under the control of the Chinese Communist Party.
So it's rare in international politics where your enemy tells you that he's coming after you explicitly.
Stalin did this in February 1946 in a very famous speech where he said capitalism and communism can't coexist and communism is going to win.
Well, what we've had with Xi's address to the 20th Party Congress is the equivalent of Stalin's speech.
He's telling us that we can't coexist.
He's coming after us.
And what we need is a response, of course, to this.
We need leadership to bring about the tremendous strength that we have as a country, of course, with allies within China.
Of course, the Chinese people who don't want this odious regime.
But we need leadership to bring this together, and we don't have.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
So let's assume for purposes of this discussion, Natalie's correct, and the Biden administration is totally corrupt and incompetent.
So they won't do it.
As, and let's assume that we take the House and the Senate, which I think, I don't want to, you know, say that we're absolutely going to do it, but it looks like if everybody does their job, we will.
What should be the, if the Republicans, and particularly guys like Jim Banks and these people that have already promised us that the first committee that's going to be formed is a select committee on the investigations into the influence peddling In the influence operations of the Chinese Communist Party in the United States, and a lot of that, the audience should understand, is coming off of the great work that Natalie Winters has done at National Pulse and on War Room the last couple of years.
Let's assume that's correct.
What should be the Republican, how can the Republican Party drive this, and what should be their objective set in a counter-strategy to a now more powerful Xi?
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
Three things, Steve.
First, we need to deter aggression against Taiwan.
And so that's going to require conventional forces and that's going to require a nuclear force posture in the Indo-Pacific that we don't yet have.
So coercing, working with the Biden administration or In some respects, working against it, Congress needs, purportedly, if the election goes, House goes to Republicans, Senate goes to Republicans, we need to move that.
Secondly, we need a new national security strategy.
There's no reason why Congress can't generate that as well.
Biden generated and publicly released, of course, recently, the national security strategy, and it was not the document you want to have by any stretch of the imagination after Xi's speech.
So we need a document that's going to provide a foundation for leadership against Taiwan that declares China, the Communist Party of China, to be the enemy of the United States and to lay forth a strategy for its defeat, for the defeat of the Chinese Communist Party.
And Congress, Senate, House can do that, obviously, very, very importantly.
Thirdly, Congress, of course, is a co-equal branch of government, as we all know, right?
They can go to Taiwan.
They can advance, I think, the right policies in the Indo-Pacific, in Taiwan itself.
We saw Nancy Pelosi going, of course, to Taiwan in August of this year.
Potentially a Speaker McCarthy could do the same, as well as other congressional leaders.
To show American commitment to Taiwan.
Taiwan is the Berlin, right?
It's the immediate crisis that we're facing.
Not the only one.
The Indians have problems, obviously.
There's very significant difficulties in the South China Sea and the East China Sea with Japan.
But Taiwan is the front line.
And the United States needs to ensure that there's deterrence there, that Xi Jinping does not decide, as he's likely to, based on his intent, as he's declared.
Based also on his health, right?
His health may not be certainly the best.
No one knows, of course, how long he's going to be in power.
And thirdly, because the Biden administration has been feckless.
in assisting Taiwan.
So he's thinking he's got a window of opportunity.
And that has to be closed.
That's a very significant vulnerability and danger for the United States.
And Congress can do a lot to close that if the Biden administration will not.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Dr. Thayer, how do people get to this new article?
You've written a series of these to tee it up for the 20th Party Congress and then coming off of that, I want to make sure, I know you're over at Epoch Times, you're also at The Hill, where do people go to get all of it?
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
On Getter, at Bradley Thayer at Getter, or Bradley Thayer on Truth are where I post my articles, of course, or they could see the piece today at thehill.com.
Uh, to look at that.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Where can people get, where can people, where can people get the book, your new book about this?
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
Understanding the China Threat, which I co-wrote with Lien Chow Han.
Uh, it's available at Amazon or, or at the, uh, uh, the publishers, uh, Taylor, Francis, uh, Rutledge, uh, all our, our, our places to get it.
But Steve, we need leadership.
And if Biden's not providing it, Congress is absolutely going to have to.
Uh, and we need a strategy.
We need a strategy to victory for the defeat of the Chinese Communist Party.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
We win, they lose.
unidentified
Absolutely.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Dr. Thayer, thank you very much.
bradley thayer ▲ ● ▼
Thank you very much, Steve.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Natalie, as you know, your reporting is going to be some of the basis for this select committee that's going to be put together at the new Congress.
The first one, remember Banks, who was on here, and Banks did the China strategy paper about a year and a half ago.
He's a naval officer.
He said that, hey, coming out of the commitment to America, you know, kind of people criticize this too, generals too, it's too not specific enough.
The one thing that was specific, they said they're going to form this joint committee and it's a committee on the investigation of the influence of the China, the influence operations of the CCP.
Ray, before I let you go, yesterday, Mayor Garland made this huge deal, he had Ray, he had Monaco up there, he had all of them up there.
This is really kind of, I'm not saying it's a misdirection play, it's fine what they're doing, but it's so mid-level and low-level where there's so much deep corruption by the Chinese Communist Party in this country.
Do you think that's just essentially a misdirection play to get the heat off them to show that they're doing something?
unidentified
Yeah, there's a term that the left likes to use to describe people who they don't think are thoroughly committed enough to their I think that's exactly what you're seeing from the Biden regime now when it comes to trying to peddle a tough line on the Chinese Communist Party.
You aren't considered tough on China if you only go after some of their companies after your son has made money off of them for decades.
That's just sort of covering up.
It's a misdirection play.
And I think it's also really important to note, in terms of what we can do to combat this influence, You've said that there's obviously going to be a lot of Democrats and even establishment Republicans who will be losing their seats in these upcoming midterm elections.
A lot of those people are prime candidates to become lobbyists for Chinese Communist Party-run companies.
So I think it's important that we have regulations and restrictions in place to prevent these establishment-type figures from selling out to our enemies.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Perfect.
Natalie, how do people follow you on social media now?
Where do they go to get you?
unidentified
Natalie G. Winters on Getter and of course go to warroom.org where we're always posting stories in the War Room Getter.
We're providing the signal and not the noise.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Natalie Winters, Executive Editor of All Things War Room.
Thank you very much for joining us, ma'am.
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
Those investigations are going to be known as something incredibly important going forward to thwart this, what's happening.
Let's go.
Defenders of the West is one of my favorite books.
One of my favorite books of this year.
Incredibly written by an incredible guy, Raymond Abraham.
Raymond, I know we've talked about this.
We've had some difficulty getting you on.
You've been traveling.
Walk us through the story that we should be focused on.
In here, you break down stories of Richard the Lionheart, El Cid.
You've got kind of a who's who.
And actually some people in the West don't know that well.
But walk us through what you got for us today.
unidentified
Sure, Steve.
And thanks for having me on.
You know, with what's going on in the world and what you talk about, you know, these Stories from the past may seem irrelevant, but I really find them, you know, they live up to what Ecclesiastes in the Bible says, which is there's nothing new under the sun, you know, what was done before is happening again, as you will see, along with the inspiration that one can draw from them.
But the particular story I have for you today deals with the Sid, and it actually might strike home for you personally, because the Sid, as you know, you know, he was so well, he was the fiercest warrior in Spain that he went by the Arabic I'll say it.
That's where we get Sid, which means the Lord.
And he was known by the Spaniards as the campeador, which means the master of the battlefield.
So even his epithets really tell you who he is.
But right around 1084, there was a massive jihadist pouring into Spain by what are known as the Almoravid Caliphate, who were just hardcore jihadists, just like ISIS, as you'll see.
And they destroyed the Spaniards.
At the Battle of Sagrajas, also in October.
And they ended up decapitating 2,400 Christians, building a pyramid.
And the Muazzin went up and started calling the jihadists to calls to prayers, and just stomping on their heads and so forth.
Pretty gruesome stuff.
Like I said, just like ISIS.
And what's interesting is right before that, the King of Spain, Alfonso VI, had actually banished the Cid, who was, you know, who could have actually changed the tide of that battle.
And the reason he banished him is because the Cid showed some contempt, actually.
When Alfonso VI was being sworn in, actually, the Cid was the only one to protest, and he put a Bible in his face and told him to put his hand and swear three times that he did not kill his older brother, Sancho II, which possibly he could have.
And, you know, despite that cheat, Alfonso actually did it to sate the Cid, But he carried this anger in his heart, and then once he had a pretext, he actually banished the Sid for that contemptuous display.
And that's why he wasn't at the battle.
At any rate, then he called him forth after the 2400 decapitation scene.
And the SID just went on a blitzkrieg and just completely devastated all these jihadist gangs.
Valencia had been taken by the Muslims, and he retook it after a 19-month siege.
And then that's where this particular battle, which occurred on October 21st, comes in.
Something like 50,000 more surrounded him, and he only had 4,000 knights.
His wife and daughters were holed up with him.
And then just in a wild display, once all the mass, the throng of Muslim jihadists had surrounded him, and even in the text they're screaming, he came out in a violent blitzkrieg just so suddenly with all his arm bent uh on top horses and just you know two lines that kept blitzkrieging and crisscrossing across uh the army the jihadists completely devastated them um and that's why he's still known till this very day but he did so much more beyond that uh but like i said it's interesting because
all these men not just the said always had internal enemies who continuously and always against them.
So, like I said, you know, these stories are not, you know, past and present continuum.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
They're timeless.
Look, this book, you can't put down when you get it.
How do you get The Defenders of the West?
Because it's absolutely magnificent.
We got about 30 seconds.
Where do people go to get it?
unidentified
You can obviously get it on Amazon.
I would just go online and Google Defenders of the West and you'll get various places.
There's conservativereaders.com.
steve bannon ▲ ● ▼
It's absolutely incredible.
Beautifully written and amazingly researched.
Raymond Abraham, thank you very much.
El Cid!
Incredible.
2,400 decapitations.
Okay.
By the way, independent newspaper of UK.
We're not calling for that for Tony Fauci.
Just investigations.
As the hunted will become the hunters.
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