Oct. 20, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| Which you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we've got a lot of politics and economics to get to today. | ||
| It's Thursday, 20 October in the year of our Lord 2022. | ||
| This is the evening or afternoon edition of the War Room. | ||
| We've got Boris Epstein up later, Miranda Devine. | ||
| We're trying to track her down for the New York Post. | ||
| It's the second year anniversary of the 51 intelligence officers that signed that letter that was in the New York Times saying that the laptop from hell was Russian disinformation. | ||
| We're getting to that. | ||
| Dr. Seb Gorka is going to join us. | ||
| Huge development today as we covered last night on the eve of it at a CDC. | ||
| Another vote today to make the vaccine a permanent part of the vaccine package. | ||
| Steve Kirsch, Dr. Peter McCullough join us. | ||
| But first we're going to go to Heather McMullin or Heather Mullins, Real America's Voice. | ||
| We're in Boston outside this lab that is doing a gain-of-function experiments unbeknownst and we had uh... senator marshall from kansas saying that this was more dangerous than playing with uh... than practicing with nuclear weapons heather where are you uh... put us in the uh... in the room there and uh... and tell us why either Thanks, Steve. | ||
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Thanks for having me and shedding light on this because this is a big, big deal. | |
| I mean, we're not in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| We're in the middle of a well-populated city and we saw what can happen when viruses leak out of labs. | ||
| Right behind me, I had a better shot earlier, but security had made me move. | ||
| Right behind me is the National Emerging Infectious Diseases Laboratory, which is part of Boston University. | ||
| And basically what they're being accused of right now is gain of function research that basically it took the spike protein from Omicron variant, right? | ||
| This was the less transmissible, right now more transmissible, but milder variant of the coronavirus. | ||
| Well, they took that spike protein, which makes it more transmissible and they attacked to an older version of the virus, one that was more deadly, and then exposed it to mice and found 80% of the mice that were exposed died. | ||
| So this is what people are concerned about is the fact that they're adding things to deadly viruses that make them more transmissible. | ||
| This is not okay. | ||
| What? | ||
| What is, how could they, given the problems we had in Wuhan, from the lab near a major population center, how did they sign off on the fact that to do it there at the lab, these gain-of-functions and all, they're saying that, hey, this may not be as lethal as the first one. | ||
| It's still, you know, it's still incredibly lethal, right? | ||
| Why, who signed off on it in Boston University and why does it seem all kind of shuffling now the papers to avoid responsibility? | ||
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Yeah, that's a great question, Steve. | |
| So the NIH has officially come out and said that it did not review this work before it went forward. | ||
| They did say that they are investigating to see if any grant money was used and things of that nature. | ||
| I've heard mixed reports, Boston University saying that no government money was used to fund this research directly, but that begs the question, so then who is funding this research? | ||
| And I decided to do a little digging. | ||
| And if you go back to March of 2020, on the BU website and on Harvard's website, this sort of like international coronavirus research effort took place. | ||
| And at the time, they say only six coronavirus deaths had occurred in the United States. | ||
| Now what this effort did is it joined forces with Chinese research teams, right? | ||
| And it agreed to accept $115 million from a Chinese company called Evergrande Group. | ||
| Now I did some background information and the company's CEO is a member of the Chinese Communist Party and has been since 2013. | ||
| So this $115 million back in March 2020 was said to go to fund this coronavirus research over a period of five years. | ||
| So it is possible that the very gain-of-function research Boston University is being accused of right now was funded by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Remember, the gain of function was considered so dangerous that the Obama administration, at the National Security Council level, shut it down in places like the University of North Carolina, University of Galveston at Texas, University of Maryland, other places, because they thought this thing was out of control. | ||
| It was only after Fauci, and we still haven't gotten the full story, how Fauci got the Science and Technology Group at the National Security Council in December of 17, Right? | ||
| In December 17, when there wasn't a head of HHS, the first head of HHS had left, that he got it re-approved to actually do these other gain-of-functions that ended up in Wuhan. | ||
| So we're going to get to the bottom. | ||
| Heather, hang on for a second. | ||
| I want to go to, that's one side, that's the gain-of-function experimentation going on for other variants of the virus. | ||
| Remember, gain-of-function is basically the weaponization of these viruses. | ||
| But today the CDC on the vaccine side, right, on the supposedly cure side, massive development today. | ||
| I got Steve Kirsch and Dr. Peter McCullough. | ||
| Dr. McCullough, can you, because you've been up front about these vaccines now. | ||
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No, no. | |
| We didn't get McCullough? | ||
| Okay, fine. | ||
| Let me go to Steve Kirsch. | ||
| Steve, walk me through what happened today and why is this so important? | ||
| So today, as we predicted would happen, the ACIP committee, which is the outside committee for the CDC, recommended to the CDC that the mRNA vaccines be put on the childhood vaccination schedule. | ||
| And as far as we know, there are no examples where the ACIP committee has recommended this and the CDC has then refused to add it. | ||
| So it's it is almost a done deal. | ||
| And once the CDC adds these vaccines to the childhood vaccine schedule, what happens is it becomes mandated. | ||
| It becomes mandatory in many states in the United States, which adopt the childhood, the entire CDC childhood vaccine schedule in order to attend public schools. | ||
| So effectively what they've done With their vote is to require kids get these vaccines in certain states in order to attend public schools. | ||
| That's that's the net impact. | ||
| But the bigger impact is that it provides liability protection now until the end of time for these vaccine manufacturers. | ||
| So now they can ship an adult vaccine and actually have it approved and escape all liability. | ||
| And so that's the That is the bigger, that was the grand prize to go get permanent liability protection. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| I want to get to that, but I want to get a couple more building blocks. | ||
| I think we got Dr. McCullough up now. | ||
| Dr. McCullough, here's what I understand. | ||
| With the research that Naomi Wolf's pulling together of the Pfizer document stuff you're doing, Steve Kirsch has been doing analysis. | ||
| We're seeing this now with many, many different groups. | ||
| Questioning, you know, the whole issue of the vaccine, particularly for young people. | ||
| How does it go from the kind of that questioning we're seeing? | ||
| I think it's England and Denmark countries in Europe. | ||
| Just back off this thing people that were mandatory. | ||
| How do you go from there? | ||
| And really people starting to question it. | ||
| I think on the booster, very low uptake by parents unless it's forced. | ||
| How do you go from there to actually put it into the program of kind of the permanent vaccines, the set of vaccines that kids have to get to get to public schools? | ||
| How do you make that leap given the controversy on this vaccine, sir? | ||
| The heterogeneity of various responses and opinions on Pediatric and young person vaccination is really striking, Steve. | ||
| You know, in the country of Denmark, they've struck it down completely. | ||
| The state of Florida is not going to go along with this. | ||
| Kari Lake, gubernatorial candidate in Arizona, not going to go along with it. | ||
| Scott Jensen in Minnesota, it's not going to happen. | ||
| You saw Stéphane Bainzel, CEO of Moderna, just came out and said, you know, vaccines don't make sense in young people. | ||
| So this heterogeneity should be a sign. | ||
| That those on this regulatory committee, these people who voted unanimously, they must be part of some type of government big pharma regulatory capture. | ||
| So let me ask you, all the other vaccines that are on here, even though some are controversial, they have years and years of clinical trials and testing. | ||
| Am I correct in that? | ||
| They do. | ||
| You know, they say have years and years of experience. | ||
| The MMR, the polio vaccines. | ||
| What parents and listeners need to know is this COVID-19 vaccine is nowhere near as safe as our standard vaccines. | ||
| It's still emergency use authorized. | ||
| Most children have been through COVID-19, so the vaccines are not medically necessary, they're not clinically indicated, and they're not safe. | ||
| The FDA says they cause heart damage, myocarditis, and cause blood clots. | ||
| No parent would Tolerate that in a single case. | ||
| So I think this should be off the table. | ||
| Parents are going to have to do a la carte when it comes to this vaccine schedule, and then they're really going to have to fight in the schools if they mandate them. | ||
| Well, I think it's going to go to a fight. | ||
| Steve, Chris said the thing is going to be at the state level. | ||
| Let me go back to Chris. | ||
| Just stay right there, Dr. McCullough. | ||
| Steve, so walk people through this liability issue, because it kind of doesn't make sense. | ||
| You don't really see the logic of doing this, given that Europe's kind of backing off this. | ||
| You've had tons of questions here. | ||
| You clearly could do a lot more years. | ||
| You could start really doing clinical tests and really test this. | ||
| In fact, I think they went down to five-year-olds on this approval. | ||
| The license is only to 16. | ||
| Tell us about the liability. | ||
| Why would this even come up? | ||
| Well, the grand prize has always been the liability protection. | ||
| The vaccine manufacturers have this under EUA. | ||
| But once the drug is approved by the FDA, the liability protection goes away unless the drug is on the childhood vaccination schedule. | ||
| So this is why there's been such a huge push to get this approved and tested under EUA in children. | ||
| And the results are so bad, Steve. | ||
| You know, there was a study in Thailand, which I'm sure Peter will give you all the details of, but it showed that 30% of the kids that were tested, then were looked at after vaccination, 30% developed, almost 30%, it was 29.3, I think, developed cardiac issues that were measurable after they got the vaccine. | ||
| 30%. | ||
| Okay, so, you know, almost one out of three Now, contrast that with three out of a million kids might die if they got infected with COVID. | ||
| And it's probably at least an order of magnitude less than that because, you know, we have very easy early treatments. | ||
| Just rinsing your nose twice a day with a saline rinse will reduce your chance of hospitalization by a factor of eight. | ||
| So, we're looking at less than one in a million chance that your child would die from COVID versus a 30% chance that they are going to get some kind of cardiac issues, some sort of cardiac damage due to these vaccines. | ||
| This is not even a close call here. | ||
| Nobody in their right mind is looking at the data. | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| We'll go back to McCullough. | ||
| Dr. McCullough, with that, here's what's so shocking. | ||
| The two days they had the vote yesterday and today, unanimous votes. | ||
| But did you see any real debate? | ||
| I mean, nobody abstained. | ||
| Nobody voted against it. | ||
| Was there any heated debate bringing up things like the Thailand study that Steve Kirsch talked about, Denmark or UK or other countries backing off this altogether? | ||
| Did you see any of that? | ||
| No, there's a complete oblivion to safety. | ||
| And the great concern here is that Thailand study by Mansoogian and colleagues, over half the kids who develop heart damage, they don't feel it initially, Steve. | ||
| They're completely asymptomatic. | ||
| And then they actually can have the first presentation being sudden death. | ||
| I think American families are going to be horrified if this is widely used among children. | ||
| And the future risk of sudden death. | ||
| As a cardiologist, I can tell you it's unacceptable. | ||
| There is no justification for using these in children. | ||
| No one should sustain heart damage as part of a pediatric vaccine schedule program. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got Steve Kirsch. | ||
| We have, by the way, who was pro-vaccine at one time before his, he looked at the data and now he's one of the leaders of this, of really get to the bottom of the truth, the bottom of the truth about vaccines. | ||
| Dr. Peter McCullough, one of the leaders of this movement. | ||
| Also, Heather Mullins is at Boston University about this gain-of-function experiments going on. | ||
| Now nobody knows who funded it, what's going on. | ||
| They're all running Uh, for the Bushes. | ||
| Also, Dr. Seb Gorka is going to join us and Miranda Devine. | ||
| Hopefully, we track down Miranda off of her plane on the second anniversary of the, uh, laptop from hell and the 51 intelligence, senior intelligence officers that said it was Russian disinformation. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment in the War Room. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Listen, Dr. McCullough, this is, you know, they accused the Trump movement or the anti-vaxxing of the Robert F. Kennedy Jr. | ||
| guys or the MAGA of destroying the institutions and being anti-institutionalist, but isn't this how people lose faith in this? | ||
| That it doesn't look like, I mean, when you've had Germany and Denmark and the UK and certain elements, Austria, I think people that were so gung-ho on almost mandatory vax, now you see them all kind of backing off and here you've got children Right? | ||
| A most precious asset and probably the one that's the math on this thing is the most questionable. | ||
| And you have a panel of experts and it's 15 to nothing. | ||
| No abstentions, no no's. | ||
| And it doesn't look like there was a heated debate or even went through a ton of analysis. | ||
| Isn't this how we lose faith in institutions? | ||
| It sure is. | ||
| People in my circles are talking. | ||
| You know, it's a one-way street. | ||
| People are moving from being ambivalent Over towards the health freedom movement, the more conservative movement that's protecting medical rights and civil rights overall. | ||
| There is no mention of a healthy debate on the risks and benefits. | ||
| There's no documentation about what's going on outside of the United States. | ||
| And you're right, countries are dropping the vaccines, Israel, UK and others. | ||
| They've seen enough in terms of adverse safety effects. | ||
| I think what's going to happen Is so many parents and even states overall are going to move away from the CDC vaccine schedule and say, listen, we've lost our trust. | ||
| Let's go to that. | ||
| Steve Kersh, you've really become to the forefront of this because you've crunched the numbers. | ||
| I mean, you're a data guy. | ||
| You've seen this and you've commented before about how the other nations that were really pro are starting to back off this now until more research is done, more clinical trials. | ||
| How is this going to play to the states? | ||
| Because the states are all different about how they take these recommendations. | ||
| Dr. Latipov, I think we're going to get him on tomorrow morning, the Surgeon General of Florida said they're not going to do it in Florida. | ||
| So how is this going to play out And given the math that you've looked at, is McCullough right, or are parents just going to sit there and go, hey, we've got to stop the whole thing because I'm questioning all of it now? | ||
| Well, you know, they should. | ||
| In Israel, the percentage of people who are now fully vaccinated is only 2.4%. | ||
| They used to be one of the most vaccinated places on earth, and now only 2.4% of the people in Israel are considered to be fully vaccinated. | ||
| So the Israeli people, who normally just do what the government says without question, are in fact rebelling and they're voting with their arms. | ||
| They're not having themselves jabbed and they're not following the government recommendations anymore. | ||
| They are not fooled. | ||
| And so that creates an interesting data point because I'm sure the same thing is going to happen in America and it depends on how long they can keep up this propaganda and avoid any kind of public debates. | ||
| There has never been any debate ever that I have ever heard of between people on both sides of the issue and talking about this in a public forum where you have experts on both sides. | ||
| It has never happened. | ||
| It has never happened on a college campus. | ||
| Impossible. | ||
| never happened in any other forum. | ||
| In fact, Steve, I don't think you're even able to get anyone from the pro-vaccine side on your program at all to ask questions. | ||
| No, impossible. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so that tells you something. | ||
| You see, what they're trying to do is they need to convince those people who are vaccine hesitant to take the jab. | ||
| Now, the people who are vaccine hesitant, you know, those people are listen to Steve Bannon and they listen to other sources like Fox News. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so their inability and unwillingness to appear on those shows shows that they're not serious about going after the... You know, Steve, you bring up a great point. | ||
| As a kid, I took every vaccine, you know, to get into school back in those days. | ||
| You just did it. | ||
| I've never been anti-vax. | ||
| I've taken every vaccine I've been ordered to take. | ||
| I'm not vaccinated here, and I won't be. | ||
| And the reason I won't be is peoples whose opinion I trust Like you and Dr. McCullough and Dr. Malone, and I can go through a whole list from the beginning, have really showed me the evidence to say, whoa, this is still a clinical trial. | ||
| I don't want to participate in the clinical trial. | ||
| When you have more data, come back to me. | ||
| I'm always open minded, right? | ||
| But I haven't seen it because people I respect, you guys actually went through the data. | ||
| And what I heard from you guys is totally different than the safe and effective over the other side. | ||
| And I know many people personally That have gotten these blood clots and have come to me have gotten blood clots and some people have had relatives die from the blood clots. | ||
| And they've gone to the hospital and people said, oh, is that the Pfizer? | ||
| Is that the Pfizer clot? | ||
| And so I'm not vaccinated. | ||
| I'm not going to get vaccinated. | ||
| I'm a guy that's not anti-vax. | ||
| I've taken every vax I've been ordered to take, either in the military or as a kid. | ||
| And I think that's a lot of people out there. | ||
| And I know a lot of people that it's like the Israel, you know, because you need like five boosters now or whatever. | ||
| I know so many people that took it originally, not in a million years are they getting another one. | ||
| Not going to happen until they see more evidence. | ||
| And I think Israel is a perfect example. | ||
| They had the highest fully comply rate At the beginning. | ||
| And now it's, you know, your numbers say the 2.4%. | ||
| I think that tells you where it is. | ||
| And you see there's very little uptake on the booster and yet they're pumping out those same ads with the same, you know, MSNBC, CNN, you can see the ads on all night. | ||
| They just pump it out nonstop. | ||
| Steve, we got to bounce. | ||
| How do people get to you and learn more about you and your research and all your writing? | ||
| It's stevekirsch.substack.com. | ||
| S-T-E-V-E-K-I-R-S-C-H dot Substack dot com and it's got over 700 articles. | ||
| I don't expect everyone to read them all. | ||
| But just go through it and just look at the headlines and read the ones that you're interested in. | ||
| And you know the data is out and it shows that these vaccines make no sense for anyone. | ||
| And Steve came at this from a guy, he did not come from this from the anti, he was not part of the children's health defense. | ||
| He came at this kind of from the opposite side. | ||
| It was the math that did it. | ||
| Steve Kirsch Amazing job you're doing for the American people. | ||
| Thank you for being on here. | ||
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Thank you Steve Dr. McCullough before you let you go. | |
| This is what I think it's kind of a day lives in infamy I just think this is another marker that now all this has come up and to have this and to really have no debate and here's the tell I know something's up and Unlike when this thing first came out, and they were just banging the drum, on the other side there's been crickets. | ||
| We tried to pull a clip to introduce you guys, but virtually nothing. | ||
| Total crickets. | ||
| They're not out there pushing this right now. | ||
| So there's definitely something up, because in the old days they'd have Fauci out, they'd have the head of CDC out, they'd do a thing at the White House. | ||
| None of that. | ||
| They know this is controversial and quite frankly, I'm hearing from places like in Connecticut and other places that are blue states. | ||
| The reason we're winning these house seats and at the state level is the parents and it's the parents about the mask and the vaccine. | ||
| The other stuff too, but this vaccine is really driven. | ||
| Some parents say no, I want to take a different route. | ||
| Give us your closing thoughts about this, about how this could happen at a 15 to 0 vote, which I think is what sticks in my craw. | ||
| I think this is the issue for voters out there. | ||
| They want to know where candidates stand on the vaccines. | ||
| And, you know, many Americans, in fact, the majority of Americans took the vaccines. | ||
| They took them early. | ||
| They were patriotic. | ||
| They were told to do this. | ||
| But everyone now has developed, I think, a severe sense of hesitancy and pause. | ||
| The safety data are Are overwhelmingly bad and it keeps coming in bad. | ||
| The new bivalent boosters were never even tested in humans. | ||
| The vaccines are not getting safer and they're not stopping COVID. | ||
| We need a deep sense of humility here and need to be able to shut down the program just like Gerald Ford shut down the program for swine flu in 1976. | ||
| It's got to happen. | ||
| And I think the leaders who are honest, who come forward and say, shut it down. | ||
| Let's move on. | ||
| And let's pick up the pieces, help America recover. | ||
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Those will be our leaders of the future. | |
| Dr. McCullough, your book, The Courage to Take This On, how do people get to the book and how they get to you, your writings, your podcast, all of it? | ||
| You can go to my website, PeterMcCullohMD.com. | ||
| That'll take you everywhere. | ||
| Our book is Courage to Face COVID-19. | ||
| CourageToFaceCOVID.com. | ||
| I'm on America Out Loud, a podcast, McCulloh Report, and recently started a Substack, which is very popular, focusing on the medical and civil liberty issues. | ||
| Well, that's going to come up at the forefront, because now the parents are going to have to get engaged here. | ||
| It's on the schedule, and people on a state-by-state basis, particularly those states that just take the There are certain states that just take what the CDC says and implements it. | ||
| Other states use it as a recommendation. | ||
| And parents are going to want to get engaged. | ||
| It's going to be a huge fight. | ||
| It's going to be a huge fight. | ||
| And this is the reason people don't trust institutions anymore. | ||
| Dr. McCaul, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
| I'm going to bring in Seb Gorka. | ||
| I don't want to play the cold open. | ||
| I'll wait until after the break. | ||
| Seb, I just got a question. | ||
| We had Heather Mullen. | ||
| We're going to try to get her back on. | ||
| Heather is the reporter, investigative reporter for Real America's Voice. | ||
| She starts in Boston today, outside the lab of Boston University, where they're doing gain-of-function experiments in Boston, right? | ||
| In the city of Boston. | ||
| And it was Senator Marshall, out in Kansas, who's been on the show before, talking about this. | ||
| He's saying, this is like testing nuclear weapons in downtown Boston. | ||
| How many see CDC this morning? | ||
| We got a minute. | ||
| How can we have trust in institutions when the administrative state seems totally incompetent and out of control, sir? | ||
| It is the most dangerous concatenation of incompetence and arrogance. | ||
| That's what we have today. | ||
| We have, you know, if you look at Jake Sullivan, Jake Sullivan, that pencil-necked, you know, guy that brings in the soy lattes for the cabinet meeting. | ||
| He's the National Security Advisor of the United States. | ||
| That's where we are today. | ||
| The only place where we should be even thinking of handling pathogens It should be USMRID and should be Fort Detrick. | ||
| After we signed, after Nixon signed the 1972 Bioweapons Treaty, it is clear. | ||
| Only defensive experimentation to protect us from other people's bioweapons. | ||
| The idea that a private lab at some woke university, ultra-woke university, is working on a virus that will have 80% lethality. | ||
| It's insanity, Steve. | ||
| It's insanity. | ||
| It has to stop. | ||
| Dr. Gorka is going to join us on the other side. | ||
| We're here in the war room. We'll be back in just a moment. | ||
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The leaders of our military considered the president of the United States to be the greatest threat to national security that existed at that time. | |
| But Milley never actually sent that resignation letter. | ||
| Millie makes a very consequential decision. | ||
| He tells his staff, you know, I'm just going to fight Trump from the inside. | ||
| Okay, you're back in the war room. | ||
| I've got Dr. Seb Gorka as not just a colleague but a dear friend. | ||
| Richard Haass is in the New York Times today. | ||
| Seb, I'm sure you saw that, he's stepping down the Council on Foreign Relations because he sees he can't fight us anymore. | ||
| But he says going out the door in his interview with the New York Times, he says, the most dangerous element in the world today is MAGA. | ||
| is the people that believe that the election was stolen on J6, that we're the most dangerous. | ||
| This is Haas. | ||
| Not the Mexican cartels, not the Russian military, not the CCP, not the mullahs in Iran getting the nuclear weapon, not Al-Qaeda, not what's left of ISIS, none of that. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It would be MAGA. | ||
| And then right there, Seb, and I trust you, that's where we played the clip, I hadn't heard it. | ||
| My blood is boiling right now. | ||
| Explain what Susan Glasner, the book, and what is going on. | ||
| That is high treason, what we're talking about. | ||
| Dr. Seb Gorka. | ||
| So, of course Haas would say that, because he would have said the same thing about the Founding Fathers of America, that they are the greatest threat to the British Empire. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Right? | ||
| A thousand percent. | ||
| He would have been a Tory. | ||
| He would have been a Tory. | ||
| He would have been at King's College. | ||
| He would have been in Columbia. | ||
| He would have been a Tory, like the president of King's College. | ||
| He would have been King George's He would have been King George's lapdog, okay? | ||
| So that audio I played to you, so I have a stupid iPhone and you know the iNews thing pops up and it was a podcast I hadn't heard of before and stupid me I popped on it and I listened to it and it's that Democrat podcast With the authors of the Divider book about President Trump. | ||
| And you hear it right there. | ||
| The authors in their interview with Milley. | ||
| Milley said, I didn't resign so I could subvert the president from the inside because he was the greatest threat to America. | ||
| Just like Haas said. | ||
| A man who's never been elected, a fat disgrace to the U.S. | ||
| Army uniform, who's never been elected, said the man chosen by 62 million Americans and then 74 million Americans is the threat to America. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| He's a threat to you. | ||
| He's a threat to the deep state, the deep state that is sending FBI agents to arrest 22 pro-life activists, including Mark Hauk. | ||
| That's the reality. | ||
| This is the age of... | ||
| Praying the rosary. | ||
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| Yes! | ||
| Praying the rosary. | ||
| Hang on a second, but I want to get into depth here. | ||
| Peter Baker and his wife Susan Glasner wrote the book, I think, The Deceiver. | ||
| Glasner's a former head of Politico. | ||
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| She's a... | ||
| She was editor of Politico. | ||
| She's now editor, I think, at The New Yorker, I think it is. | ||
| Peter Baker is the lead correspondent, White House correspondent for the New York Times. | ||
| So they don't come any heavier than these two, and they're well sourced. | ||
| I want to go back how this came up though. | ||
| On June 7th, in the middle of the burning down of the city because of Black Lives Matter, remember they didn't have to wear masks, they could burn it down, and you know, nobody arrested. | ||
| No six feet distance. | ||
| President Trump's in the White House, and we've got to have a show of strength. | ||
| They walk over to St. | ||
| John's Church, as you know, Seb, the Church of Presidents, right? | ||
| Right there across Lafayette Square to St. | ||
| John's Church. | ||
| He turns around. | ||
| They go, they're so incensed, and the media jumps on them, Esper and Millie, so much. | ||
| When they get back to the Pentagon, remember Esper in his book says they talk to each other. | ||
| In the Pentagon that night and made a pact they made a pact to basically for Trump. | ||
| This is in June of 2020 a sitting commander-in-chief who at the time is actually leading in the polls against a Biden Biden just been gone through the selection process in the primary. | ||
| This is a sitting commander-in-chief who appears like Because the virus hadn't played out and they hadn't stole it yet, Mark Elias hadn't stole it, is going to be Commander-in-Chief for another four years. | ||
| They met the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. | ||
| Now, Seb Gorka, you do this for a living, you're a pro. | ||
| Is that seven days in May like seven days in June? | ||
| I mean, they brag about it. | ||
| It's in Esper's book. | ||
| It's Glasner's right there saying he considered The greatest threat to the United States, the sitting commander-in-chief, and then later, we know he talked to the Chinese Communist Party directly. | ||
| Is that not high treason, sir? | ||
| If that is not high treason, then high treason does not exist. | ||
| Let's be clear. | ||
| Those who called you, me, the president, Biden, who called 74 million Americans semi-fascists in front of Independence Hall just four weeks ago, They call us the fascists. | ||
| They call us the authoritarians. | ||
| What you just witnessed was the confession that the most senior military officer in the most powerful nation in the world, Deigned to say, I run the military. | ||
| I am in charge. | ||
| Not a civilian, not an elected official. | ||
| That is worse than fascism. | ||
| There's a phrase for that, Steve. | ||
| That's called military junta. | ||
| That's Argentina. | ||
| That's Latin America in the 1970s. | ||
| That is the essence of fascism in a uniform. | ||
| But these people actually... I mean, this is why I said it's arrogance and a concatenation of ignorance, because they're stinking confessing it on a podcast, Steve. | ||
| I mean, is that stupid? | ||
| They are admitting that we are traitors and they're celebrating the fact not only that they're traitors, that they are cowards. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| You're the chair of the Joint Chiefs and he doesn't have the balls to actually resign. | ||
| He writes the resignation letter and then files it. | ||
| They're cowards, Steve. | ||
| They're fascists who happen to be cowards and that's why we will defeat them. | ||
| We know from Esper's book, and we know from all the books, even Glasser's book, Millie never went back and actually sat down and said to the President, I need a private meeting with you, I need to sit down one-on-one, there's some problems here. | ||
| He never did that. | ||
| This is an attempt, in your mind, I'm asking you professionally, let's take the media host away, the talk show host away, all that, you're a professional, because you've done this your whole life. | ||
| Very specifically. | ||
| As you know, the Uniform Code of Military Justice, as you know the Constitution of the United States, is what Milley and Esper did. | ||
| In Esper's book, they said they left that park that night, met and talked that night back at the Pentagon, and the media was all over them. | ||
| And they cratered. | ||
| And they said they made a pact. | ||
| They made a pact, and that pact was to thwart Trump as Commander-in-Chief. | ||
| Because, and Milley told Glasner, and Milley gave that interview to her, that they considered Donald J. Trump, in the first week of June of 2020, to be the biggest danger to the United States of America, given all our enemies throughout the world. | ||
| Seb Gorka. | ||
| The UCMJ is clear, Steve, you know better than anyone. | ||
| That individual, the first second he ever expressed any desire to undermine the official chain of command in the United States, which has a civilian at the head as Commander-in-Chief, should have been arrested, should have been put in shackles and leg irons and taken to a brig and immediately court-martialed. | ||
| When his civilian superior, Mark Esper, who likewise was not elected by anyone, who had no political mandate from the people except that given to him by the man who was elected, said, I'm getting into a secret pact to subvert the President of the United States, should have been arrested for sedition along with John Kelly, you need to listen to the rest of the podcast because afterward Kelly says the same thing. | ||
| Kelly says our determination was to protect America from the president. | ||
| That's fascism. | ||
| When an unelected cabal of people behind closed doors say the writ of the people, the sovereignty of the people, is to be ignored, and we decide. | ||
| The same John Kelly, who by the way, because I can talk about it openly because he's mentioned it on interviews on television, | ||
| When our friend, when Corey Lewandowski, who had free access to the White House, was found once in the Oval Office without John Kelly's permission, afterwards, John Kelly so violently grabbed Corey and slammed him against the corridor, you know the corridor outside the Oval Office, that the button of his suit ripped off | ||
| As he screamed the following, and I will edit it for your listeners. | ||
| You never come into my effing building again because I run this house. | ||
| John Kelly said, my effing building, the White House. | ||
| The deep state is alive and well, and that he achieved what he achieved in those four years with people in his cabinet, as his chief of staff, at the top of the military, actively subverting and committing treason is remarkable. | ||
| And that's why we need him back, because he has to take a political flamethrower To this fetid, rank, malodorous swamp. | ||
| Because they will do it again. | ||
| Doesn't matter who you are. | ||
| You've got an R after your name and you're president. | ||
| They will subvert you and they will use treasonous plots to undermine the will of the American people. | ||
| It is as clear as crystal, Steve. | ||
| Seb, if I can hold you to the break, because I don't think we're going to get Miranda tonight. | ||
| But Miranda was going to come and she wrote the piece today, two years ago today. | ||
| 51 intelligence, senior intelligence officers, 51 senior intelligence officers wrote, and I was very involved, as people know, in the launch of the Laptop from Hell. | ||
| We did full due diligence. | ||
| Murdoch's lawyers did due diligence. | ||
| They put the whole reputation of the New York Post, founded by Alexander Hamilton, over 200 years old, on the line by putting the Laptop from Hell out. | ||
| Miranda, Emma Jo Morris, now over at Breitbart, she was an editor of the Post Time, and Miranda Davis, Miranda Devine, one of their top columnists, 51. | ||
| When you take, with the second anniversary, when you take that sub, which I know you know cold, you add it to what Esper and these guys did in June. | ||
| That was in October of 2020. | ||
| You take what the DoD... | ||
| What does it say to the American people? | ||
| What are we supposed to tell this audience in MAGA about what has happened to the officer corps? | ||
| And I mean at the senior level. | ||
| What has happened to the officer corps? | ||
| What has happened to the senior most level of the CIA and the intelligence? | ||
| The heirs to Wild Bill Donovan, the OSS, all of that. | ||
| J. Edgar Hoover, the FBI, the intelligence apparatus, the senior members. | ||
| This is, this is treason. | ||
| They knew, they knew it was not Russian disinformation. | ||
| Of course they did. | ||
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They lied. | |
| Bald-faced lied. | ||
| And what happened? | ||
| So tell me, explain to me, what is the problem with the officer corps that we put hundreds of billions of dollars into training, sir? | ||
| So for those who aren't familiar, before I joined the administration, I spent five and a half years as a DOD civilian, as a professor and associate dean of irregular warfare and counterterrorism at the pinnacle, um, uh, Professional Military Education Institution in the United States. | ||
| So every service has its war college. | ||
| I was at the one above all of them, the National Defense University at Fort McNair. | ||
| And I saw with my own eyes, because we were training 06s, 05s, and people who were going through the capstone to get their first start. | ||
| As soon as they got to within 05, 06, and they knew they were promotable potentially to general, These people, for the vast majority, became political animals. | ||
| They looked at actors like David Petraeus and said, that's what I want to be. | ||
| I want to be a yes-man to the elite. | ||
| I want to go to the fancy cocktail parties and private dinners in Adams Morgan in Georgetown. | ||
| I'm no longer serving the U.S. | ||
| Constitution. | ||
| I'm serving the permanent political elite. | ||
| When I ran an index after a nine-month postgraduate course for M.O.S. strategists in the U.S. Army, whose job was to be a strategist. | ||
| And I asked them. | ||
| I broke them into syndicates on Friday. | ||
| I gave them Friday and Saturday to decide what is the primary threat to America and to shape a national strategy to defeat it. | ||
| And on Sunday morning, when half of the cohort, Steve, these are 05s, 06s, whose M.O.S. | ||
| MOS is strategists. | ||
| They're working in the Pentagon. | ||
| And they had the audacity, this was under Obama, to tell me that the primary threat to America is climate change. | ||
| I knew. | ||
| It's gone. | ||
| It's toast. | ||
| I ripped them a new asshole, and I told them Iran is going nuclear, Russia has invaded Ukraine, China's launching missiles over the sea of Japan, and you're telling me the weather is our primary national security threat? | ||
| This has been going on for years, Steve. | ||
| Seb Gorka on the other side. | ||
| Be back in a minute. | ||
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| Miranda Devine's been nice enough to call in by phone. | ||
| I've got Seb Gorka here with me, kind of co-hosting. | ||
| Miranda, tell us, you wrote this piece, you were the guy that, you broke this story two years ago, and the Laptop from Hell, 51, I think it's 51 senior intelligence officers, came out and said, no, Murdoch's wrong, the Post is wrong, Miranda Devine is wrong, her career is over, this is Russian disinformation, and she put it out for the world to see. | ||
| Why is this anniversary important, ma'am? | ||
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Well, I think now, Steve, that we have seen enough evidence that convinces everybody, whether they're left or right, whether they're New York Times readers or New York Post readers, that our story was legitimate, it was accurate, and it was consequential. | |
| And these 51 former intelligence officials, five former CIA directors, if you can believe it, two of them acting, they have just refused to engage in their Dishonesty. | ||
| I mean, they wrote a letter, a joint letter, published it on Politico five days after our story came out, a couple of days before Joe Biden had his last debate with Donald Trump, and used that letter to get off Scott free. | ||
| We had put on the public record the fact that his son Hunter's laptop We had evidence on it that Joe Biden had lied to the American people when he said he knew nothing about Hunter's overseas business dealings. | ||
| And we'd also published the fact that there were millions of dollars that had flowed through to Biden's family coffers from the influence peddling that they'd been engaging in for eight years under Joe Biden's vice presidency. | ||
| And what we hadn't yet published, but would soon publish, was the fact that Joe Biden actually personally, financially benefited from some of that. | ||
| So it was an extraordinary story. | ||
| That was a bombshell. | ||
| That was an October surprise. | ||
| The rest of the media ignored it. | ||
| Big tech censored it. | ||
| And their fig leaf, their excuse for doing that was because these 51 former very high level intelligence officials, most of them from the CIA, so this was a CIA operation, used the credibility of their former high office to demolish our story, to say that we were just agents of the Kremlin, that this whole Hunter Biden laptop story was a Russian disinformation operation. | ||
| That wasn't the exact words they used. | ||
| They keep on trying to weasel out of it by saying, oh, we just said it was an information operation. | ||
| I mean, no one sees the difference. | ||
| One of them came out on Fox News and said, oh, you know, it's not my fault that people are so stupid that they can't tell the difference. | ||
| No, every media outlet and Joe Biden himself in that debate came out and said this was a Russian disinformation operation, which was the intent of the letter. | ||
| That was the impression they wanted to give. | ||
| And if these 51 intelligence operatives are now pretending that people misinterpreted their letter, then they were honor bound when that letter was so widely misinterpreted, allegedly. | ||
| They were duty bound, honor bound, to tell the American people before the election, oh no, that was not what we meant. We don't think it was a Russian lie, a Russian plot, like Joe Biden told you, it could be true. We haven't actually looked at the laptop. | ||
| Miranda, we're going to get you back on here real quickly. | ||
| How do people go get this article now? | ||
| How do they get to your social media? | ||
| How do they get to your writings? | ||
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NewYorkPost.com, and I'm on every social media outlet as Miranda Devine, at Miranda Devine. | |
| Miranda, thank you for your courage. | ||
| Thank you for your intrepid reporting. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Seb Gorka, Miranda Devine used a term, your honor. | ||
| And I think I got the dates right. | ||
| When this was there, I think Susan Glasner was still editor of Politico. | ||
| If not, she had just left. | ||
| They put the letter up in Politico. | ||
| Wrap it up for us, Seb. | ||
| 51 senior intelligence, most from the CIA, several directors. | ||
| They've never apologized. | ||
| They've never rescinded that letter. | ||
| Seb Gorka. | ||
| Yeah, you asked me before the break, what do we do about it? | ||
| So this is what we do. | ||
| The Hobbits of the Shire get activated in the midterms and in 2024 you take 10 people to the polls who otherwise wouldn't vote. | ||
| We win and we should do what I recommended the President do after Mike Flynn was taken out by the Deep State. | ||
| Back then I said you need 12 guys, hard bastards who know the swamp, and in pairs they go from every department every Friday and they go to the Secretary and they say, Mr. Secretary, what have you done in the last seven days to execute the President's agenda as per the mandate given to him by the American people? | ||
| And if they don't exercise that mandate, if they are double agents, if they are traitors like Milley, they are fired, or they are escorted out of the building in handcuffs for their traitorous, seditious behavior. | ||
| Secondly, before we get to that point, we have to have one of the original, less than 20 people, you know who they are, people like you, me, McEntee, people who were inside the building as true MAGA in senior enough positions, and we have to vet the 4,000 presidential appointees. | ||
| If we don't do that, it's not worth winning the election, Steve. | ||
| Give me your, by the way, Mike Flynn's going to join us next. | ||
| PBS is out with a new film called Mike Flynn's Holy War. | ||
| Mike Flynn will join us next. | ||
| Seb, give us all your contact points, the podcast, the radio show, your writings. | ||
| Yeah, most important thing is the brand new Substack where you can get my writings. | ||
| It's Sebastian Gorka, G-O-R-K-A dot Substack dot com. | ||
| That's Sebastian Gorka. | ||
| Dr. Gorka, thank you very much. | ||
| and then on every social media platform except the fascistic YouTube. | ||
| So if you want to go to Truth Social, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, we're all there. | ||
| And then the website is sedgorka.com where you can listen to the show 24-7. | ||
| It cycles, a three-hour show on Salem cycles 24-7 at sedgorka.com. | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Dr. Gorka, thank you very much. Honored to have you on here. | ||
| Okay. Next we're going to have Mike Flynn. | ||
| Mike Flynn's going to join us from Pennsylvania. | ||
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