Oct. 18, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| You know, Willie, you look at what the former president said about focusing on Republicans and how mean they are instead of, and how shocking they are. | ||
| I mean, it's exactly what they want Democrats to do. | ||
| It's what they want the media to do instead of the issues that most Americans really do care about. | ||
| And it doesn't work as well for the Democrats. | ||
| He also had quite a few things to say about Wokeness, identity politics. | ||
| Now, he's talked about this before. | ||
| He's talked about it for quite some time, but certainly it was a very clarifying interview, a clarifying voice. | ||
| Barack Obama giving Democrats some advice. | ||
| They should listen. | ||
| Yeah, it's interesting. | ||
| He steps in at certain times, doesn't he? | ||
| Not often, but every once in a while, and tries to sort of recalibrate Democrats and the message a little bit. | ||
| He's right, objectively, if you look at polling, that it is the economy by a wide margin. | ||
| It's on people's minds, but that's not to say that the other issues are not important. | ||
| So it's that balance of you have to pursue The Preservation of Democracy. | ||
| You have to listen to the January 6th Select Committee. | ||
| You have to take seriously all these candidates who say we're not going to respect the outcomes of elections in the future. | ||
| You have to take seriously the concerns of women and families across the country about the issue of abortion. | ||
| But as you say, coming down the stretch here, voters have made clear that it is the economy, it is inflation, that's going to swing this election. | ||
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Are we going to fire Kathy Hochul and take back New York? | |
| Yes, we are. | ||
| The American people are coming. | ||
| This is your country, we the people. | ||
| I will always stand up for our Second Amendment and constitutional rights. | ||
| God bless you and God bless the United States of America. | ||
| Thank you for being here today. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 18 October in the year of our Lord 2022. | ||
| We're three weeks away from the most important midterm election since the early years of the Civil War, 1862. | ||
| We've got a lot to go through today and we've got a lot to go through in the next three weeks to actually have the opportunity because it's all converging. | ||
| To destroy the Democratic Party as a national political institution. | ||
| And we're seeing it all over last night Governor Kemp in Georgia. | ||
| I think he's eight or nine points ahead of Stacey Abrams. | ||
| A debate in JD Vance. | ||
| Taking it to Tim Ryan in Ohio in these Senate races. | ||
| We got a lot to get to today. | ||
| First thing I want to bring in Congressman Elise Stefanik. | ||
| She's chair of the Republican Conference and a congressman from New York State. | ||
| And I want to go to Talk about signal, not noise, and how this has all come together, because it just didn't happen. | ||
| When you have a Morning Joe, and we got a longer piece we'll play at the beginning of the second hour, when they are actually admitting now, when Barack Obama, they're talking there about this interview Barack Obama gave about wokeness and about identity politics and about not focusing on the right things. | ||
| This just doesn't happen. | ||
| This is what strategy is about. | ||
| This is about what's focusing on certain things that at the time may not be totally clear to everybody. | ||
| But you can see over the other side of the hill and you kind of see where things are going. | ||
| One of the most important events in this election cycle was the removal of Liz Cheney as conference chair. | ||
| Not principally because of her virulent hatred for MAGA and President Trump personally, It was she represented a neoliberal, neocon worldview that is not where this country is, and particularly where voters in this country are. | ||
| And that is Elise Stefanik replacing her. | ||
| And I want to go to a piece of evidence. | ||
| Congressman Stefanik, thank you very much. | ||
| The New York Times yesterday A lot of people are now talking about this. | ||
| GOP gains edge in poll as economy sways voters. | ||
| It was a front page story but once again the New York Times buries the lead. | ||
| And I actually have highlighted here and I want to bring up the chart here in a second. | ||
| The biggest shift came from women who identified as independent voters. | ||
| In September they favored Democrats by 14 points. | ||
| Now independent women back Republicans by 18 points. | ||
| A striking swing given the polarization of the American electorate and how intensely Democrats have focused on that group specifically and on the threat Republicans pose. | ||
| Well, first of all, Steve, you're correct. | ||
| Congressman Stefanik, first off, talk to us, because I think you are one of the principal, if not the principal architect, in the shift of these independent women now to back Republican candidates and MAGA candidates, of which could be a realignment in this country, ma'am, like 1932. | ||
| Your analysis and observations. | ||
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Well, first of all, Steve, you're correct that isn't it amazing that the mainstream media always seeks to bury these polls, bury the lead. | |
| The reality is this is great news for America. | ||
| It's great news for Republicans as we're working to earn back the House. | ||
| This is a 32-point swing among independent women who now overwhelmingly support Republicans on the generic ballot this November. | ||
| And we are just 21 days away. | ||
| What did I do as conference chair? | ||
| Well, House Republicans worked together to talk about issues that actually matter to the American people, actually matter to independent women. | ||
| That's inflation, that's economy, that's crime, that's security, that's the border. | ||
| And we are winning on each of those top issues. | ||
| Also in that poll, in another poll, it lists out what are the most important issues. | ||
| 37% of the American people rate inflation as the top issue. | ||
| Number two is the economy and job with 29%. | ||
| So that is a huge, huge portion of the electorate whose top issue are economic related issues, because we're facing a really unprecedented economic crisis, certainly for my generation, who's never seen this rate of inflation. | ||
| You have to go back before I was born. | ||
| And immigration, a 23% rate, that is the most important issue. | ||
| That's an issue that we went on both when asked on immigration, but also on border security, crime and drugs. | ||
| Here in New York State, The crime crisis is one of the top two issues statewide. | ||
| It's one of the reasons that Lee Zeldin is going to win for governor. | ||
| But this bodes very well because the American people, they have just seen the results of unified, single-party Democrat rule, and it's created crisis after crisis, and they're looking for a new direction. | ||
| House Republicans, and I've focused on this as House Republican conference chair, is talking about these issues that matter, and we're going to win on these issues. | ||
| I want to go back to when you replaced Liz Cheney. | ||
| I think it was in the spring of 2021. | ||
| And this is, I think, even before Liz Cheney got involved in J6 and kind of went down that path, which led to her crushing defeat among her voters in Wyoming later, or in the spring. | ||
| I actually guess it was in August. | ||
| How did you know at the time? | ||
| Walk me through your thinking of how you were saying back a year and a half ago, these are going to, because there's a lot of, you know, in the fog of war, everything happens. | ||
| How did you know it was going to be this issue set that was going to be prominent in October in the run up to the 2022 midterm, man? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, the most important role that any elected official does is making sure they listen to their constituents. | |
| And I spent a lot of time listening to my constituents and listening to the American people. | ||
| And it was clear that inflation was continuing to tick up at that time and was continuing to really be a source of concern for families. | ||
| It was being discussed that And Liz Cheney was just leaving those issues on the table. | ||
| It was important for House Republicans to hone in on the issues that matter to the American people and the crises that have been created. | ||
| And I'll never forget, Steve, when I had my first press conference as the House Republican conference chair after our weekly conference meeting, I was ridiculed by a New York Times reporter saying the border crisis, the inflation crisis, The crime crisis. | ||
| And he said, well, it's too many crises. | ||
| If you don't have a message, it's going to distract the American people. | ||
| Look how wrong the New York Times was. | ||
| It's not the first time. | ||
| It's not the last time. | ||
| And certainly the American people understand there's multiple crises. | ||
| Hang on. | ||
| You've got to give me that story again. | ||
| What did the New York Times writers say? | ||
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There was a New York Times reporter in the audience and they said, well, you say economy crisis, you say the border crisis, you say the crime crisis. | |
| This is too many crises for the American people for a message. | ||
| It's not going to resonate. | ||
| And my answer was first, thank you for pointing out all the crises that Joe Biden and House Democrats have created. | ||
| And the American people know there's multiple crises. | ||
| And it has been a winning message since we are winning on each of those issues of top concerns that the American people have. | ||
| I want to go to this concept of piercing the veil. | ||
| People have to understand when people think about these, these are national races, these midterms, and they're actually referendums on the president's first couple of years of the two years. | ||
| And that's why I say the presidency now is kind of chopped into two-year cycles, not four-year cycles. | ||
| New England, let's add New York and maybe even New Jersey, has kind of been a bastion Right. | ||
| That they can depend upon of really owning the Democrats, both Senate and particularly in the House. | ||
| They have that. | ||
| They don't have to spend a lot of money. | ||
| They roll. | ||
| It gives them a great base. | ||
| And then people, particularly in New York, Boston, they raise a ton of money. | ||
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Right. | |
| And go out throughout the country. | ||
| And this is how they've been able to win. | ||
| You came up with this theory of piercing the veil. | ||
| I remember at the time people were talking. | ||
| I said, this is crazy. | ||
| This is going to be a waste of effort. | ||
| This will never get there. | ||
| Yet today, In Rhode Island, 2. | ||
| We're up 6 to 8 points. | ||
| We're competitive in Connecticut, 2 and 5. | ||
| We're competitive in both house seats in New Hampshire, in Maine, 2. | ||
| So we pierced the veil of Massachusetts. | ||
| Plus, I think there are 9, and people are telling me maybe 14 or 15 to play in New York State. | ||
| Walk me through your theory of piercing the veil. | ||
| And when it looked like a long shot, what did you see that other people didn't see? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, what's unique about states that are traditionally blue states is they get a double whammy of single party Democrat rule, both in Washington and in Albany. | |
| So when it looks when you think about New York state, for example, which, of course, is where I'm from originally and where I represent New York 21st Congressional District. | ||
| We saw the impacts of horrific management from the corrupt Andrew Cuomo, the worst governor in America. | ||
| That's been continued by Kathy Hochul. | ||
| We saw the crime crisis as a result of the failed bail reform movement, the defund the police movement, the slashing of the NYPD budget. | ||
| And since then, crime has skyrocketed. | ||
| Blue states really suffer from single party Democrat rule in a very, very damaging way that people are waking up. | ||
| And it's not just Republicans, obviously, who are looking for a new direction. | ||
| its independence and registered Democrats as well. | ||
| I also think in New York State, Democrats, if you look at the congressional races, we can win back the majority just in New York State alone. | ||
| Albany Democrats had a super majority. | ||
| They egregiously and unconstitutionally gerrymandered the congressional maps and the people of New York won the court case to have fair lines. | ||
| So now we have fair lines, what would have been a very gerrymandered illegal map and we could win the majority and pick up those seats just in New York alone. | ||
| You have three seats in the Hudson Valley that continue to trend in Republicans' direction. | ||
| The fact that the Democrats are having to... | ||
| spend millions for Sean Patrick Maloney's campaign, and yet Mike Lawler continues to pull ahead. He's going to win on Election Day. We are all in, as well as our other Hudson Valley candidates, Colin Schmidt, who is taking on the newly elected Pelosi puppet, Pat Ryan, and Mark Mullinar was going to win on Election Day this November. We're going to do well on Long Island and pick up two seats there, George Santos and Anthony D'Esposito. And then broadening this out to New England, and including New Jersey as well. | ||
| Maine, with Bruce Pollaquin on the ballot, we think we're in a great position to win there. New Hampshire, both seats look really good. | ||
| Caroline Levin, I'm most familiar with, in New Hampshire won. She worked in my office previously. | ||
| I was proud to uh... endorse her and she is giving happens around for his money and the enthusiasm is on her side the energy is on her side and uh... supporting her is going to be really important new jersey you have democrats in free fall like com al-nawsky who had multiple uh... multiple illegal trades profiting off of insider knowledge of congress and he's gonna be held accountable from the voters and that's why we'll let | ||
| And then Connecticut, you again have a blue state where Democrats control everything. | ||
| The state is in free fall, which is why you have George Logan in such a great position and why we are making sure that we're investing in that race. | ||
| I was just with him last week and there's tons of enthusiasm. | ||
| And Rhode Island, Alan Fung is going to be a member of Congress. | ||
| He is just out there working every single day. | ||
| This is going to be the most diverse class of newly elected Republicans ever in our nation's history. | ||
| And we're going on offense in not only the states in the Northeast and New England, but specifically traditionally blue areas that Democrats have taken for granted, that they have not represented well, that they've caused crises in these communities. | ||
| And Republicans are going to bring leadership that these that their constituents deserve. | ||
| OK, we're going to take a break. | ||
| I'm going to bring Elyse back after the break. | ||
| But I just want to reset and make people understand something. | ||
| Elyse Stefanik is saying we could actually take the majority just on the wins we're going to get in New York State. | ||
| Think about that for a second. | ||
| Who in February, March or April of 2021 would even think that that was anything but crazy talk? | ||
| In that, the buried lead there is Sean Patrick Maloney is the head of the DNCC. | ||
| They're pouring millions of dollars in to defend his seat. | ||
| To defend his seat. | ||
| Also, you can pick up the majority just if you look at the pickups in New England. | ||
| In New England. | ||
| Stunning turn of events. | ||
| We're on offense today in the war. | ||
| We're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with the Republican conference chair and the architect of a lot of this, Elise Stefanik from New York 21. | ||
| Be back in a moment. | ||
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unidentified
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Everything's just beginning. | |
| But the games you want to play. | ||
| Bring it on and now we'll fight to the end. | ||
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Just watch and see. | |
| It's all started. | ||
| Everything's begun. | ||
| And you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP. | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CCP. | ||
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| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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| Okay, it's Tuesday, 18 October in the year of our Lord 2022. | ||
| We are 21 days, that is, three weeks from this evening. | ||
| Today will be voting day on the most important midterm election since 1862 that came just, what, a month and a half after the battle of Antietam. | ||
| We're going to get to all of that later in the show. | ||
| I want to return to Elise Stefanik. | ||
| I want to make sure people understand the magnitude Of a guy like Sean Patrick Maloney. | ||
| He is the head strategist. | ||
| He is the top guy in defending the House and they knew they had to defend the House or the Joe Biden regime ends on the evening of November 8th. | ||
| So I want to make sure at least before we leave this topic. | ||
| How important is a guy like that at the senior levels, the chief fundraiser and the strategist for holding the house? | ||
| He is under siege. | ||
| I just read a report. | ||
| They're pumping $4 million. | ||
| And we had Eli Crane on last night from Arizona, too. | ||
| Tom O'Halloran is out there in Arizona, too, saying, hey, I raised this money. | ||
| That money is my money. | ||
| You're not giving it to me. | ||
| And Eli Crane is going to win this district if I don't get support. | ||
| And you're hearing this all over the country. | ||
| You've basically besieged the leader of the DNCC. | ||
| How did that happen, man? | ||
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Well, first of all, to just make sure the listeners understand, the Democrat Congressional Committee, their responsibility is to try to maintain their majority. | |
| And the fact that the head, this elected leadership position, is likely to lose his seat shows how much of a red tsunami this year is going to be. | ||
| Sean Patrick Maloney is well known as the most arrogant elected official in New York state politics. | ||
| And boy, is that saying a lot, given all the players in New York State. | ||
| This guy, when these districts were redrawn, didn't even pick up the phone to call his Democrat colleagues and moved into another district, kicking Mondaire Jones out to run in a different district. | ||
| So he's despised even among his own party. | ||
| And it's one of many reasons why he is going to lose this November. | ||
| In addition, Sean Patrick Maloney, when he ran for his failed campaign for New York State attorney general. | ||
| He said his number one priority was to support Democrats' failed bail reform, which has led to the crime crisis, which is the top two issue in New York State and the top one issue in parts of the state. | ||
| It is the most effective issue we have when it comes to holding Sean Patrick Maloney accountable for his out-of-touch policies, his rubber stamp for Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi, and just his sheer arrogance and entitlement On top of that, what has John Patrick Maloney been doing the last couple of weeks? | ||
| He's been raising money in Paris, in London, in European cities. | ||
| That's where the Democrat majority is having to go to try to raise their final funds as we push these last 21 days for the election. | ||
| Republicans are out-raising Democrats. | ||
| We're going to win that race. | ||
| Mike Lawler is an exceptional candidate who was our Republican nominee. | ||
| And is that the picture I saw that they were sitting on the balcony with the Eiffel Tower in the background? | ||
| There's some beautiful apartment on the river right there in Paris. | ||
| Was that it? | ||
| That's a fundraiser? | ||
| They're raising money in Paris to put it into the Hudson Valley? | ||
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unidentified
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You know, this is not the first time. | |
| I think that picture was the last time that Sean Patrick Maloney had fundraisers in Paris and European cities. | ||
| Sean Patrick is known for doing European fundraisers of American expats and it just shows out of touch the Democrat leadership is and the Democrat party is with the needs of the American people. | ||
| And the needs of the constituents in the Hudson Valley District. | ||
| It's one of many reasons why Mike Lawler is going to win. | ||
| He's an assemblyman who flipped a district from Democrat to Republican that no one thought, the media thought, Republicans could not win. | ||
| And Mike Lawler is going to do it again and make history this November when he defeats Sean Patrick Maloney. | ||
| When you've got the head of the DNCC that is looking at saving himself and taking cash and putting it into his own race, talk to me about what that means for the rest of the nation. | ||
| How does that expand the battlefield, the map, so that you can now get aggressive throughout the country? | ||
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unidentified
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Your number one job, whether you're the chair of the NRCC, which is the Republican Congressional Committee, or the DCCC, the Democrat Congressional Committee, is to win or keep the majority. | |
| And Sean Patrick Maloney is spending an inordinate amount of resources and an inordinate amount of time and energy focused on holding his own seat that he's going to lose. | ||
| That means that all these other Democrats that are in free fall across the country, they're either going to get cut from the budget and lose, or they're going to be shortchanged and lose. | ||
| And that's why you're seeing Democrats really cry out that they're in free fall. | ||
| There's no cavalry coming for them. | ||
| The cavalry is coming for Republicans, both from grassroots donors across the country. | ||
| And if you want to support, you can give to redwave2022.com. | ||
| But the most important cavalry that's coming are the American people and the voters who are going to put a stop to single-party Democrat rule, who are going to overwhelmingly elect Republicans. | ||
| I believe we're on pace to earn a historic majority that would be picking up 35 seats. | ||
| Your call right now, as you see it, is a pickup of 35 seats would leave us almost at a historic height, right? | ||
| It would be, what, 247 seats? | ||
| That would be almost historic. | ||
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unidentified
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It would be the largest majority. | |
| It would be the large majority since the Great Depression, Steve. | ||
| And certainly a huge opportunity for us to have lasting, effective policies to solve our inflation crisis, to secure the border, etc. | ||
| So your call right now is 35C. | ||
| Your great aide-de-camp, Alex DeGrasse, said a couple of weeks ago, you're going to hit an inflection point a couple of weeks out where you're going to see the Democrats culling the herd. | ||
| You're going to see them just go back to the core they have to To defend. | ||
| Do you think we're at this point right now? | ||
| You think we're going to start seeing big names that start cutting loose and the Democrats turning themselves in an internal civil war that they've needed to have? | ||
| This is what Obama was saying the other day. | ||
| We started off with that cold open from Morning Joe. | ||
| He's talking about the wokeness. | ||
| He's talking about the identity politics. | ||
| It's kind of ironic for Obama to be talking about that, how it hurt him. | ||
| When did the Democrats start turning on themselves? | ||
| When can we see this open civil war as they panic and have to really start throwing overboard some prominent Democrats? | ||
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unidentified
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Well, they already are turning on each other, Steve, and the mainstream media loves to brush that under the rug. | |
| But the reality is, I mean, members of Congress, we know the concerns. | ||
| We know folks on the other side. | ||
| And there are huge complaints about both Pelosi's leadership and Sean Patrick Maloney, huge complaints about Joe Biden and his absolute failure. | ||
| And I think the Barack Obama interview is notable not just for his critiques, which are very obvious of today's Democrat party, but also the fact that he's trying to protect his political identity because he knows Democrats are about to face a historic wipeout. | ||
| And people are going to try to save their own reputations politically as we work through this final bit. | ||
| You know, 21 days is still quite some time before the election, but it's trending in our direction. | ||
| Things start to break when we get to mid-October and they are breaking towards Republicans. | ||
| And I still believe the polls are underestimating both our enthusiasm and how much of a turnout advantage we are going to have. | ||
| Also underestimating those who don't feel comfortable answering polls. | ||
| By the way, everybody has to, we still have to get to the ramparts. | ||
| Think this is a long way from over. | ||
| Everybody, we want people volunteering. | ||
| You can go to all the different sites we put up. | ||
| You can go to the site of Elise and get more information. | ||
| Real quickly, Politico's lead story today is about how that the wunderkind class of 2018, all these superstars that the Democrats We're hoping to basically get ready to run statewide. | ||
| We're all under pressure right now. | ||
| You could lose two-thirds of the class of 18. | ||
| This is how you destroy the Democratic Party as a national political institution. | ||
| But let me pivot to New York State. | ||
| The most underreported story in this cycle right now is the red wave coming in the great state of New York. | ||
| You just walked through the congressional seats. | ||
| Talk to me about the The governor's race, the Attorney General, all of it, because all I'm hearing right now is Lee Zeldin is on fire and closing Hochul very rapidly. | ||
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unidentified
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Lee Zeldin is absolutely on fire in terms of closing the gap. | |
| We've seen those numbers shift tremendously. | ||
| And again, Kathy Hochul, no one thought we could have a worse governor than Andrew Cuomo, but Kathy Hochul achieved that unbelievable achievement. | ||
| She has been a worse governor. | ||
| There are more corruption headlines every single day. | ||
| She basically is using taxpayer dollars to give unethical, corrupt deals to her campaign donors to try to drag her over the finish line. | ||
| Meanwhile, you have crime erupting in New York state, including literally on Lee Zeldin's doorstep. | ||
| And he is out there every single day bringing attention to issues, whether it's the congestion pricing, which is the tax on hardworking New York City and New York residents, or whether he's highlighting just the failed bail reform policies that have prioritized criminals over law-abiding citizens. | ||
| But I did wanna touch upon that article you referenced about the quote unquote, 2018 wonder kids. | ||
| That was a wave election year for Democrats. | ||
| And I've always said that class of elected Democrats is ripe for a rude awakening, and they are about to get one. | ||
| They ran in 2018, which was a blue year, and then they ran in a very nationalized election between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. | ||
| Those Democrats do not have individual voting records. | ||
| They are in lockstep with Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden, and they will finally be held accountable. | ||
| I've run in red wave years and I've run in blue wave years. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And we've won the district in both ways. | ||
| This was a district that we flipped. | ||
| I think most of those rising stars are going to get wiped out this election cycle because they haven't kept their promises to their voters. | ||
| In fact, they're not independent Democrats. | ||
| They are just rubber stamps for Nancy Pelosi, who's been in the majority since they were elected, and Joe Biden. | ||
| You're saying that political article, we'll talk about this in the second hour, because I know you've got to bounce. | ||
| You're saying right now, you're called shot, not just 35 seats. | ||
| You're saying that the great class of the Democrats, their bench, the one in 18, you think that's going to get wiped out? | ||
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unidentified
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I think that class, I mean, that's the class that built the majority and those are the seats that we are going on offense and we have a much bigger playing field than just those seats. | |
| So I think we're going to have clearly a much larger majority if we continue to do our job and voters really make sure that every vote matters and every vote turns out. | ||
| But those high profile candidates who were featured as the majority makers, they're about to lose their election because Again, they voted in lockstep with Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| They own this inflation crisis. | ||
| They own this crime crisis. | ||
| They own this border crisis. | ||
| They own all of it. | ||
| They caused these crises. | ||
| And the American people are smart. | ||
| They see through it. | ||
| And there's tons of infighting on the Democrat Party side. | ||
| Again, the mainstream media outlets that no one in America watches, like Morning Mika and other shows, never like to focus on the infighting among Democrats. | ||
| But it's real. | ||
| And it's going to have implications on Election Day. | ||
| Elyse, Elyse, real quickly, give us your website. | ||
| How do people get to this? | ||
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unidentified
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Redwave2022.com. | |
| Elyse Stefanik, Conference Chair, thank you for your insights. | ||
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unidentified
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35 seats. | |
| You heard it. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| Back in a moment. | ||
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Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We're very honored to have a very special guest, Bishop Anastasios Schneider from Kazakhstan. | ||
| Bishop, thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Bishop, we're known throughout the world as the platform for the anti-communist party movement to take down the CCP. | ||
| Everyone asks us, Cardinal Zen, can you give us any update on Cardinal Zen and particularly why We don't see a lot coming out of the Vatican in support of Cardinal Zinn now that he's in this trial? | ||
| It is very tragic, the situation that this heroic Cardinal, Chinese Cardinal, who served the Church so faithfully, | ||
| all his life and now he's almost over 90-year-old and always spoke courageously defending the true freedom and the faith of those who were persecuted by the ruling Communist Party in China that he is now | ||
| practically abandoned by the Holy See and by the Pope. | ||
| This will go down in history, I think, as a stain for the Holy See to have committed this grievous omission to support one of her most faithful You know, I've had the honor to spend a lot of time or some time with Cardinal Zen and obviously spent a lot of time in China. | ||
| He is revered, not just by people in Hong Kong, he's revered by the underground, the true underground persecuted church in China as a hero. | ||
| And I think one of the issues, or the issue he had, even at the age of 90, to fly from Hong Kong to the Vatican, was about this secret treaty that the Vatican has signed with the Chinese Communist Party, that essentially lets the CCP, which is not just an atheistic criminal organization, but a murderous atheistic criminal organization, that specifically targets Catholics and Christians, because they have a great fear of Christianity. | ||
| What is it, particularly coming from Kazakhstan and the Eurasian landmass, why has the church signed a secret deal with a murderous, atheistic, transnational criminal organization and refuses, refuses to put that forward so that people in the church can review and study it? | ||
| I think this act with the Holy See did, signing such an agreement with an obvious | ||
| government which is obviously persecuting Christians and even committing crimes against basic human dignity in China, it is only our last step of an evolution which started 60 years ago with the so-called Ostpolitik of the Vatican, which started with Pope John XXIII with his | ||
| approaching to the Soviet communist government and the other East European communist governments. | ||
| In those times maybe they had good intentions to gain more freedom for the church in the communist countries but basically they abandoned the Holy See with the Ostpolitik, the faithful Catholics, priests and bishops who were suffering | ||
| for the church, for Christ, and the prize of this Ostpolitik, and we saw this in the communist time, where they were put in leadership in the church, bishops, people, | ||
| weak clerics who were basically in some way collaborators with the ruling communist system or completely weak persons who did not resist the atheism, the communism. | ||
| And so this is a continuation of this politics brought to its logical end. | ||
| To do such an agreement with the government, which is today China, which so obviously in a criminal way persecutes Catholics and other Christians and tramples the basic rights of human dignity, I think it is Very grievous, and we have to regret this, and the Holy See should not do this. | ||
| When you talk about weak, this is part of, as our due diligence and study showed us, that this was part of the McCarrick influence at the highest levels of the Vatican. | ||
| Of course, we've had tremendous problems with that McCarrick influence here in the American church. | ||
| Is that now being broomed out of the Vatican? | ||
| I mean, what's the update? | ||
| McCarrick was the architect, really, of this relationship with China. | ||
| And I hear that his influence led to a lot of these things going on throughout the world. | ||
| The globalization of the current Pope came from a lot of the McCarrick influence. | ||
| Is that being offset? | ||
| Are people standing up against that? | ||
| It is, I think, globally spoken, the attitude of the Holy See and the Pope, the current Pope, is a sign of weakness. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because they try to please the world. | ||
| They try to please those who are powerful, politically powerful. | ||
| And now China is a very politically powerful government in the world today. | ||
| From Kazakhstan you would know that. | ||
| Yes, I know this. | ||
| They are our neighbors. | ||
| And now we know the influence of China all over the world. | ||
| It's evident. | ||
| And now And it seems that the Pope, Pope Francis, and the current administration in the Vatican likes to please these powerful people in the world. | ||
| So this is for me, at the contrary, a weakness of the Vatican. | ||
| The contrary, the true Catholic attitude, which should be, as the successors of the Apostles, to be courageous, in front of the powerful of this world. | ||
| And these were the Christians in the first centuries, the popes of the first centuries. | ||
| They were courageous, they were not afraid of the Roman pagan empires, emperors. | ||
| And so the other examples in history we know the glorious heroic attitude of popes who resisted even Christian emperors who were abusing their power And this is a glory for the Catholic Church. | ||
| But today, this sometimes servile attitude of the Vatican administration towards those who are powerful currently, It is a sign of weakness and it's not a true attitude which should be the successor of St. | ||
| Peter and the other Apostles. | ||
| Do you see that changing? | ||
| Do you see a young cadre of priests coming up? | ||
| A young Yes, thanks be to God. | ||
| we understand how often your travels restricted or other people that have a voice do you see that do you see out there that that's changing right now yes thanks be to God we can observe all over the world a new movement amongst the young people the young families and young seminarians young clergy who are | ||
| promoting the true tradition of the church the non-changing constant faith all over the centuries and millennium the constant true liturgy the so-called traditional Latin liturgy the true moral spiritual life the missionary zeal these all which what the church did in 2000 years is now again | ||
| thanks be to God Awakening in the young generation, and this is a question of time. | ||
| That these young clergy will become hopefully also bishops, maybe cardinals, and then the Church, the Catholic Church, will regain its worthy attitude and mission in the midst of the world. | ||
| So let's talk about that, because you've challenged the hierarchy of the Church. | ||
| When the Latin Mass was allowed back into the United States, my parents immediately You joined another parish that was a Tridentine Rite parish, and that actually is a young boy, actually been an altar boy in the pre-Vatican II Rite. | ||
| You've actually come up and challenged, you were considered, I think, one of the heads, if not the head of the traditionalist movement in the church. | ||
| You've challenged the church And particularly about almost going back to a syllabus of eras that you think that we have to go back to a pre-Vatican II, the traditions of the church and around the mass. | ||
| Explain to our audience, particularly we have a lot of Catholics in the audience, we also have a lot of Christians who are not Catholics, explain to them why are you fighting Because they would say, this is just going back in time, this is the stuff that is from ancient times, we should just leave it. | ||
| Why do you lead that fight, and why do you think that fight is so important? | ||
| It's so important because it's a fight for life and death. | ||
| Because the faith of our ancestors, of the saints, throughout the millennium, was given by God. | ||
| And therefore, we give our life for this faith. | ||
| We will not give our life for an ephemeral, passing, fleeting ideas, changes of some clergy of our day. | ||
| And so, and even the same is with the liturgy. | ||
| The Latin Mass, the so-called Latin Mass, is an expression of this unchanging faith of the Millennials. | ||
| And this form of the liturgy was celebrated through millennia, not only decades, but by the saints whom we know, venerate. | ||
| And therefore, this was very alive. | ||
| It's not such only tradition or a piece of museum. | ||
| No, the traditional liturgy was filled with life, With reverence, with an expression of the true faith, and proven through centuries, through millennia. | ||
| And this greatest treasure of the Church, the faith and the traditional liturgy, we have to hand down to the next generation. | ||
| This is our task. | ||
| And therefore the novelties which were introduced after the Second Vatican Council undermine, in some way, this treasure. | ||
| And therefore we have to, for the sake, for love for the Church, for love for the future generations, we have to fight, respectfully of course, with dignity, to hand over this precious treasure. | ||
| You're saying what's been handed down generation to generation until Vatican II. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return with Bishop Snyder. | ||
| He is visiting us from Kazakhstan. | ||
| Be back in the War Room in a moment. | ||
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| We're with one of the leaders of traditionalism throughout the world and also standing up against the power of criminal organizations like the Chinese Communist Party from his beloved home country of Kazakhstan. | ||
| Bishop Snyder, something pretty provocative in the last segment. | ||
| You said that Vatican II brought in a lot of novelties and so particularly not just for a Catholic audience because there's a lot of Catholics that are not Latin mass or traditional, but also for our broader Christian and even secular audience. | ||
| Vatican II, explain what it was, why it was important, why it changed the church after 2,000 years in kind of a totally different and pretty radical direction. Vatican II was a so-called Ecumenical General Council of the Catholic Church as there were already 20 councils before Vatican II from the first century on. And this is a meeting of the Pope with the bishops to address | ||
| most important issues of the life of the Catholic Church in the All the past councils were convoked only for the aim to address some heresies, to correct evident dangers in the life of the church. | ||
| All the other councils have been specifically come together about heresies and what to do with them. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| This was always the aim of a council, convoked to correct A specific crisis, I mean, in faith, heresies, or schisms, or a crisis in discipline, immoralities and so on. | ||
| And not just to meet and to speak. | ||
| But when this came, the church was never more... I mean, the United States, it was the church, I don't want to say powerful, but the church was growing, it was robust, there was no schism, there was no crisis. | ||
| Why would they call a council if there was not a crisis in faith, if there was not a crisis actually in the church? | ||
| You would actually argue it was a golden age of Catholicism. | ||
| You are correct. | ||
| And this is the question. | ||
| Why should have been convoked a council and with almost no purpose only to speak, but the Pope John XXII, XXIII, who convoked this council said it should have a pastoral character simply to speak, to adapt | ||
| the life of the Catholic Church to the so-called needs of our time and to take into account the changes in the secular world. | ||
| But this is not the mission of the church to take into account the changes of the secular world. | ||
| Christ came and he did not take into account those times What went on in the Roman Empire, the wars and so on, and the apostles, they simply preached the divine truth and directed to the salvation of the souls for the eternal life. | ||
| This is the mission of the church and not a primarily temporal mission. | ||
| And so... Hadn't the church from the 19th century kind of fought against modernity? | ||
| I mean, the huge movement, this understanding where the modern world was going, we have to stand, we have to be a bulwark against modernity. | ||
| Exactly, bulwark, because since the French Revolution, there was spread in the world, in the Western world, a movement practically against Christ, against the Church, against the supernatural divine revelation. | ||
| to simply a temptation to adapt the Catholic Church to the spirit of this world. | ||
| This was called the modernism in the end of the 19th century, which infiltrated the life of the Catholic Church. | ||
| Not so much, but already. | ||
| And then, thanks be to God, God gave us Pope Pius X, the Holy Pope, a hundred years ago, more than a hundred years ago, who intervened effectively and condemned and unmasked this infiltration by modernism in the seminaries, in the theological faculties, and he wrote an encyclical and commanded to make an anti-modernist oath. | ||
| And so, but the Second Vatican Council tried to adapt in some way. | ||
| The church to the spirit of, or to make reconciliation as they said, reconciliation with the spirit of the modern world. | ||
| Are you essentially saying that the Vatican Council, the Vatican Council looked at almost the church teachings from time immemorial as the heresy and they had to change that? | ||
| That's what they, by bringing in the modern world? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There was no, the contrary, I think that the Vatican too should have addressed the errors of the modern world, concretely the naturalism. | ||
| The rejection of the supernatural revelation of Christ. | ||
| This was the greatest error of the modern time. | ||
| And also the so-called Anthropocentrism, which was a sign of the spirit of the modern world, which means that man puts himself on the place of God the Creator. | ||
| And now we are witnessing this, all the consequences of this. | ||
| And this was an error of Vatican II to have, in some way, in a naive spirit, to adapt. | ||
| Naive or dangerous? | ||
| Naive, also dangerous, I would say. | ||
| And now we have the consequences. | ||
| And therefore, they produce documents with which a language, oftentimes ambiguous, And so you could interpret them in both sides. | ||
| And this is our crisis, basically, that followed the Council, the ambiguity. | ||
| We're going to take another commercial break. | ||
| I want to bring up two things. | ||
| Number one, the oath against modernity was dropped shortly after that we'll talk about. | ||
| Also, it's how you get to the Amazon Sinai, to have the pantheism or the paganism of The Amazon River actually was in Rome, what, a couple of six months ago. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| Bishop Snyder is going to stay with us. | ||
| We're going to enjoy his company here, and we return with a little more controversy about the oath against modernity, all next in The War Room. |
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