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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
War Room Battleground.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
St.
Saint Michael is the breath of the Holy Spirit who will defeat the Antichrist.
Tell everyone that I have great power as one who stands before God.
you in select movie theaters only on October 13th.
Okay, welcome.
steve bannon
So, thank you.
This is War Room.
It's Columbus Day, Monday, 10 October in the year of our Lord 2022.
Wanted to start off, want to get Oscar Delgado back, the producer of this incredible film about St.
Michael the Archangel.
You had a really great run.
I think you were the number one film of that day.
Oscar, you got a new 30 second spot we just put up.
Films back in theaters on the 13th.
Tell us about it.
What happened the first time around and where is this going to be this time that people can go see it in a theater and had that kind of communal experience of seeing this with people that they're close to or people that are just meeting?
unidentified
Well, it's been amazing.
We were the number one film per screen.
They were just super excited.
They just couldn't believe it.
So they were saying, we need to give you an encore presentation.
We had another date, but then they said, we need to move it quicker and move it further up.
So I was like, okay.
So what we've done now is, which is amazing, they've given October 12th and October 13th.
October 12th, we'll have Spanish subtitles for our Brother Hispanics and October 13th.
So those two dates are amazing that people have come out.
The War Room Posse have come out and support, because they understand the spiritual dynamics of what's going on.
The two actors, Temporal and the supernatural and they understand now We need to get engaged in the supernatural and st.
steve bannon
Michael helps us along in that in that area It's very critical right now as you as you see what's going on Tell us a little bit about the film how long did it take you to actually You know, I've done documentaries before I've done some that's taken me less than six months.
I've taken others that have taken me years I'm working on a couple now that's been years in the years in the process What how long did it take you to make this film?
When were you inspired to make it?
unidentified
It took about two years, but then what I did is I put the bonus features, you know, I took like the raw bones of this documentary, and then what I did is I recut it, and I put some beautiful bonus features, so a more understanding depth of who St.
Michael was, why is that important.
So we go through the importance of St.
Michael, why God picked him as kind of the general for these battles, and how to take on the evil culture, and the response.
People understand this, Steve.
People understand the battle that we're in.
And so that's why we got the response that we did.
And I think they're going to come out again.
And that's the War Room Posse and the people like that, that understand there are two vectors, the temporal and the spiritual.
And now they understand that we've got to start focusing a little bit more on the spiritual, because that's the world that we're in.
We need to fight the evil darkness.
And St.
Michael does that.
It's really critical.
And if you go to stmichaelmovie.com, all things spelled out, you'll see all the different theaters that we're on.
And it's just been an amazing experience.
I never knew How much people are hungry for the spiritual until kind of, I'm just blown away.
I'm very thankful to God and thankful to those that have come out.
I mean, 52,000 people came out one night.
They were just kind of in shock.
steve bannon
I want to make sure everybody in the War Room Posse goes to stmichaelmovie.com to check out a screen or theater in your area.
Sean Foyt, the evangelical musician, preacher, pastor, also had this vision of putting in theaters.
What is it that you and Sean see?
That's so important about actually getting these in theaters and having people come to the theaters to see it versus just put it up as two-thirds of the films are today, just put it up and let people stream it into their living room.
unidentified
Well, Steve, as a prominent producer and movie maker yourself, there's nothing like being in a movie theater with other people.
The communal experience is just amazing.
You're able to really experience on the big screen something that you can't see on a TV or on a phone.
And so I think that just brings it to another level.
And especially a film like this, a supernatural, it deals with the supernatural.
You can absorb it.
I mean, at the end of the film, people were praying the prayer of St.
Michael.
I mean, where does that happen?
I mean, it's just, it is amazing experience.
I've gotten texts and texts about being able to really re-engage in the battle of the darkness.
And I think that's what I wanna, I want people to leave with hope.
I want people to leave in this communal setting in the movie theater to say, you know what?
At the end of the day, we're gonna engage.
We're gonna fight the darkness.
We got Saint Michael with us, we got God with us, but we gotta be able to do this.
We gotta have hope, and that's the remedy.
We cannot leave on the table the supernatural.
The temple's important, great strategy's important, but we really also need to engage with the supernatural, because that's where the fight is.
You know this, I mean, your posse knows that, everybody is, and those that tunes into the show, are very aware of the spiritual dynamics of what we're dealing with.
steve bannon
Oscar, one more time, where do people go to find out where the, first off, our Hispanic audience to see where it's playing in Hispanic subtitles on the 12th and then the rest of the audience where it's going to play on the 13th?
unidentified
Yes, it's stmichaelmovie.com and Saint is spelled out stmichaelmovie.com.
Please go show, we got to show Hollywood.
We show that we are interested in the supernatural, good supernatural, not horror supernatural, good supernatural.
And we want to engage in the fight, and I think bringing St.
Michael to the battle will help us all.
steve bannon
Oscar Delgado, the film is fantastic.
The feedback I got from the War Room Posse that went to it was just amazing, and I'm pretty sure most of those people are going to come back and see it a second time and actually bring some friends.
Please.
Oscar Delgado, thank you very much.
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
Great film.
steve bannon
Oscar Delgado, the producer of this amazing film about Saint Michael the Archangel.
I want everybody to go see it.
I've got Jeff Anderson is going to join us in a minute about what he envisions kind of the misrepresentation of the suppression polls that are being done right now on the run up to 8 November.
Also Bradley, Dr. Bradley Thayer is going to join us about the 20th party Congress, his new book out about how to understand the CCP.
Huge week.
We're going to be doing special segments on basically the morning show and the afternoon show in the run-up to the 20th party Congress where she is essentially anointed emperor for life.
As you know, we're the leading platform to take down the CCP and this is another huge milestone as we get into it.
But I want to go to Germany.
Gunnar Beck joins us, a member of the European Parliament for Alternative for Deutschland, the party on the right that tries to talk sense into people about immigration and many other issues.
Gunnar, here's what I don't understand is that the German industrial economy, given your, I don't know, the third or fourth most important economy, industrial power in the world, It doesn't seem like you have an energy strategy that makes sense for a modern industrial country.
And in fact, it seems it's almost based on fantasies.
And I, I have a very tough time understanding exactly what the German government's trying to do to make sure that Germans, not just the economy, but the German citizens are not going out and chopping down the black forest so that they can warm themselves this winter.
So can you take a second and explain, I understand you're a party in opposition and you guys have been in opposition over many policies of what I call the, the Uniparty in Germany, but can you explain to our audience exactly what's going on?
unidentified
If you have trouble understanding what the German government is trying to do, you're not alone.
I've not figured it out.
The truth is we are one of the leading industrial producers in the world.
Our economy is based on exporting industrial products and our Government is pursuing an energy policy for the Stone Age.
Germany's decided, under this government, but of course the ground's been laid by Mrs Merkel, to phase out practically all modern sources of energy and replace them with so-called green energies.
Well, When the Ukrainian war struck, all conventional energy was suddenly in short supply, and we are seeing the consequences now.
Consumer and industrial energy prices have skyrocketed, our exports have declined as a result of rising or lack of competitiveness because of much higher production costs.
So I think the government's imperiled our whole economic model since the war.
Germany had a large trade surplus for about 60 years from the early 1960s onward.
Within a year, it's disappeared.
It's gone.
steve bannon
Here's what I don't get is, I've been kind of heckling it from my Getter account and on the show, but is there any sense of urgency?
I see the Germans reaching out to UAE and I see them reaching out to these other people and doing this, but they worked themselves into this trap by being dependent, at least for a big amount of this, on Russian natural gas.
And remember, in the first days in the White House, I had the German ambassador came over to see me, and I had a very blunt discussion with him about NATO, about not just fulfilling their obligations, but the importance of them really stepping up in NATO and meeting the 2% requirement, but also as a symbol to the Russians.
In addition about this whole natural gas situation.
He was so offended.
If you remember this, they went back and he sent a cable back to Merkel, a secret cable about our discussions in the West Wing, and they leaked it into the German media the next day.
And it was like I was some barbarian that was thinking like a troglodyte on what was pretty basic and has come to pass.
But here's the thing.
Is the German government working with any urgency?
Winter is upon you, and having been in Germany in the winter, it gets cold there.
You're at a very northern latitude.
Is this government working with any urgency, given the cataclysm that you guys face?
unidentified
Well, I think there's a degree of urgency, but not about the impending winter, but about rescuing the planet.
I think in your first question, You call German energy policy fantastic in every sense of the word.
And it certainly is, but I think that's been a characteristic of German policies for the last seven or eight years.
Mrs. Merkel's migration policy was fantastic in that sense.
That meant she allowed Hundreds.
She allowed millions of migrants from the Middle East and Africa to come to Germany.
These are, by and large, I mean, there may be the odd exception, but by and large, these people have no qualifications.
They were sold to us as gold coins, as the much needed labor force we needed for a modern economy.
But of course they don't have the qualifications.
The fact is that practically all of those three and a half million people from Africa and the Middle East that have come to Germany over the last seven or eight years are now unemployed and on state benefit and cost us about 100 billion euros every year.
Now with energy policy it's exactly the same thing.
The German government is behaving as if Uh, we had the energy sources to replace Russian natural gas overnight.
Simple fact is we don't, and we can't afford the current foreign and sanctions policy the government is implementing.
steve bannon
Here's from an American perspective, you know, the UK, France and really Germany are our central allies in The West, not just NATO, but even the industrial, you know, partnerships, trade agreements.
You know, we've been closed since World War Two.
It strikes an American that there's no logic.
No reason, no rationale, and no urgency.
Is that what it looks like to opposition parties?
And if so, even when I read the German media, is the media just suppressing the voices of the opposition?
Because I don't really see even the opposition parties getting together and saying, we are driving off a cliff here and going to essentially destroy the nation.
unidentified
I think it's a sad fact, if you look back on German history, that Germans are not very good at cutting their losses.
Once they've made up their minds to back a certain policy, they find it very difficult to disentangle themselves from that, even if there are clear signs it's not working.
And I think we are seeing exactly the same thing.
German foreign policy, German climate policy, has been very
Ideal regarding for a long time You can be ideal regarding up to a point but ultimately you cannot spend your own money on World rescue projects up to a point where it undermines the basis of your own economy And I think we've reached this point now and the Germans haven't fully understood understood that insofar as your position
Looking for allies in Europe is concerned.
I can understand that you're very concerned because your allies are divesting themselves of the sources of their own economic vitality or even competitiveness.
What we are witnessing in Germany right now is a kind of belated implementation of the Morgenthau plan.
Namely to kind of attempt to transform the whole country into some kind of green agrarian YouTube.
steve bannon
You've hit the key point.
After the war, around the time of the Nuremberg Trials, Secretary of Treasury, I think it was Morgenthau, came up with a plan to turn Germany in perpetuity into a pastoral Nation, essentially de-industrialize it.
I mean, by literally taking the factories that we hadn't bombed into submission, taking them apart and shipping them to other parts of the world.
And at that time and turning the German people into a group of kind of subsistence farmers.
At the time, people said, well, you can't do that.
You know, they've had this problem, obviously a deep problem with the Nazis.
That's got it.
We've got to get rid of that.
But it's one of the central I'm afraid.
I fear you're right.
And the plan was laughed at, not laughed at, but thought just too radical.
You've essentially done this, you're in the process of doing it yourself.
Is this a delayed psychological PTSD from the war?
Is that what we're seeing?
Basically a central, a country's nervous breakdown that it basically takes itself down?
unidentified
I'm afraid, I fear you're right.
I think I largely share your analysis.
I think it was actually during the final stages of the war that the US Secretary of State, or I don't know what he was, Agriculture, articulated this plan.
But it was very quickly rejected because the US realized that you couldn't de-industrialize Germany without de-stabilizing the whole of Europe.
Now our government now thinks it can forge ahead on climate change policies and it would have no implications for our economy.
It's a fundamentally unrealistic assumption.
The second point I think you hinted at was that German policies are a kind of very belated response to the kind of guilt complex rooted in the Second World War.
The odd thing is that the guilt complex in Germany is now more alive than ever.
After the war, it was focused on certain clear war crimes.
Now, the government is telling us, we in Germany are responsible for everything that's gone wrong in the world.
We are responsible for solving the climate crisis.
We are responsible for saving the planet.
We are responsible for solving, for taking in more migrants than anyone else.
It is totally insane.
It's unrealistic.
It's a gross overestimation of our own economic possibilities.
Germany may be the largest economy in Europe, but compared to the United States, it's about A quarter the size of the U.S.
economy.
The U.S.
isn't trying anything of the kind we are trying.
When I went to the U.S.
in July and talked to various economic research bodies and economic advisors, including the White House, I put it to them.
You know, the German government is forging ahead with its climate rescue policies.
It wants to save the planet.
Is the U.S.
administration going to go down the same route?
And the universal answer I got in Washington was, well, you know, we admire your approach.
It's very honorable.
Wonderful.
But you have to realize the U.S.
isn't quite like Germany.
Our people wouldn't quite accept this.
It would be far too fast.
So, the longer the shorter it was, the answer was no.
And our Green We went with the parliamentary committee.
We had one or two representatives from the Green Party.
They left very disheartened.
Clearly, I think, in the US, even under this administration, there's a residual sense of reality.
I'm afraid the German government has lost any such thing.
Yes.
steve bannon
Gunnar, how do people follow you on social media?
Because I keep telling folks in the United States, if you want to look at where the U.S.
could be headed, watch what the elites in Germany are doing, because it shocks me every day when I get up early and read the European papers in English, particularly the ones that focus on Germany.
How do people follow you?
unidentified
Well, I'm active on both Facebook and on Twitter and also now on Getter.
So if you Google my name, if you look for my name, Gunnar, G-U-N-N-A-R, and then Beck, B-E-C-K, or Dr. Gunnar Beck, you'll find me on each of these media.
Thank you very much.
steve bannon
Dr. Beck, thank you for sharing your insights.
A member of Alternative für Deutschland in the European Parliament.
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
I want to turn now to Jeffrey Anderson, president of the American Mainstreet Initiative.
Wrote a great piece in American Greatness.
First though, Jeffrey, I want to get your thoughts on Dr. Beck and what you see our German allies doing.
Because I can't make head nor tails of it.
It looks like a suicide mission by the elite.
And I see a little tinge of that.
I'm glad Dr. Beck went around with a group from the German European parliamentarians and can come back and say, hey, the Americans weren't quite as crazy as that.
I'm not so sure I feel that great.
Your thoughts, sir?
unidentified
Well, we certainly have plenty of crazies on our side of the Atlantic.
I'm certainly not an expert on the German, what the happenings in Germany, but I think that there's a lot on the ballot in our elections coming up here.
Next month and it's going to be interesting to see what voters have to say about the policies of the last couple years and and the wider issues that have been influencing the vote over the last many years now.
steve bannon
So talk about that, because one of the things that's affected the economy here is clearly this kind of radical, at least for the United States, this radical shift to sustainable energy, this shift to the Green New Deal, you know, going from Trump, and you were in the Justice Department during the Trump years, I think 17 to 21, the shift to Sustainable New Deal, where, you know, we've cut oil production, you know, we had this massive problem with OPEC now, you laid out
Three different alternatives, I think scenarios and you went into question.
One of the reasons I love the piece at American greatness, you really said, Hey, there's a number of these prominent pollsters that are literally just where the mainstream media goes to get their analysis.
You think they're really off given what the underlying.
Uh, reality is in the country.
Do you want to, you want to walk us through that?
unidentified
Sure.
I think it's interesting that the sort of go-to source for the legacy media is, is five 38 Nate Silver's site.
It's affiliated with the New York Times, and they would have us believe at this point that the Democrats have the same chance essentially of holding the House of Representatives as Republicans have of taking the Senate.
I don't think anybody really believes that if you ask serious political analysts on either side of the aisle, and yet 538 is kind of the go-to site for so many people like the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, etc.
If you compare what they're saying with Real clear politics, which I think is a much better source, frankly.
RCP is basically saying that the Democrats' chance of holding the House is almost zero.
It's pretty much a foregone conclusion they will lose the House.
And that Republicans' chance of taking the Senate is better than 50-50.
RCP thinks the most likely scenario is Republicans will end up with gaining two seats and ending up with 52.
Although there's a whole bunch of seats that are very much in play.
We can certainly talk about.
A third source, the Cook Political Report, definitely tends to be left-leaning over the years.
It tends to inflate the Democrats' prospects.
But I've done some analysis.
I just looked at the last four federal elections and how Cook plays out.
So I've kind of come up with a decoder, if you will, a key to seeing how to sort of adjust Cook for their own biases and get something meaningful out of it.
And once you apply that adjustment, Cook seems to more or less agree with RCP that the odds are in favor of Republicans taking the Senate, even though it's going to be a close battle, and I think election night's going to be very interesting in the Senate, but I don't think it's going to be very interesting in the House, as I think it's almost certain the voters are going to express their opinion about the Biden administration in the House elections.
steve bannon
Are they seeing something?
I tell you what, let's take a short break and we'll come back because I want to get into all threes, particularly your Dakota ring on Cook, because Cook is so prominent.
But I agree with you, the folks I know in D.C., and we've been on the road looking at campaigns and going to events, and we'll be doing that essentially up to 8 November.
It still shocks me, the people inside the bubble, you have a conversation with them and say, well, you know, this thing could go either way, even in the House.
And I'm sitting there going, what are you looking at?
I mean, it's, are you kidding me?
Just the redistricting alone.
But then we look at the math and the underlying, uh, you know, the cross tabs.
It's just, it's, it would be a monumental feat to do that.
Okay.
Short commercial break.
Dr. Bradly Thayer, return on the other side.
unidentified
War Room Battlegrounds with Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Jeffrey, are they doing this because they know they still got to raise money?
Because now you're seeing, you know, we talk about when we have Alex DeGrasse Tyson and guys that really get down into the numbers, we talk about what's an inflection point.
That's normally a couple weeks out from Election Day, where you can see the big tech tenant plate shift of late deciders or people maybe more lower information voters but part of that inflection point is also the party that's got the problem has to really start to cull the herd and they have to make some tough decisions particularly people have been around a lot you're seeing that happening right now this is happening actually With four weeks to go, it's happening a little early where they're culling the herd.
Are people still believing Nate Silver and these people because they have to?
It's performative and you don't think they really believe it, given your analysis of Cook with the Dakota ring and really RCP.
What do you think RCP has come out and said?
Hey, the House is done.
We're talking about the Senate.
Even the Senate, they'll hold all the controversial seats, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, and they'll pick up, looks like they could pick up Georgia and Nevada.
So it looks like $52.48 at a minimum.
Why does the apparatus still cling to the Nate Silvers this late in the game?
unidentified
Well, I think some of it is certainly wishful thinking, Steve.
I mean, when Silver's coming out saying the Democrats have a much better chance than it would appear and than you see otherwise, there's a lot of people in the legacy media who like the sound of that.
I don't think the serious political people on the ground are probably paying a whole lot of attention to Silver.
They probably know which races are worth really pushing across the line at the end and which aren't.
I think in the Senate, there's so much work to be done.
In my view, there's 10 competitive races in the Senate, and Republicans need to win five of those to take the Senate, and Democrats need to win six to hold the Senate.
I think Republicans are looking pretty good in Ohio, in North Carolina, in Nevada, and in Wisconsin.
Democrats are looking pretty good in Washington, which is kind of amazing that's even in play, but it looks like it is, with Tiffany Smiley mounting a tough challenge against Patty Murray.
New Hampshire, although I think that could be interesting, and I also think Colorado could get interesting on election night, but those are all certainly looking to be, the Democrats have to be the favorites in those races.
And that leaves you with Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Georgia, and the Democrats would need to sweep those.
If the others go as they appear to be leaning, although I don't think any of these races are decided yet by any stretch.
And so it comes a question of, I think Arizona, Pennsylvania, and Georgia are going to be extremely important.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
Hang on one second.
unidentified
Hang on.
steve bannon
I want to go back to your picks.
You got Ohio, North Carolina.
What are your other two on the, uh, what's your other two on the, um, on the safe side, you think for the Republicans?
You had Ohio, North Carolina, what else?
unidentified
Right.
Relatively safe at least.
Ron Johnson in Wisconsin.
Yes.
And then Adam Laxalt out in Nevada, who appears to be running a very strong campaign, and I get the impression that a lot of Nevada voters have particularly soured on the Biden administration.
steve bannon
By the way, your holds for the Democrats are, I mean, for us to even be talking to that four weeks in advance, I never thought, and I think Smiley, she's not MAGA, but she's a great candidate for that state.
When you mention that it's Washington state, New Hampshire, and Colorado, I mean, when we're even having that discussion, that's what they're clinging on to, and they've got to run the tables on Pennsylvania, Arizona, Georgia.
That gets you to a $51.49 right there, correct?
So you're saying they almost have to draw to an inside straight.
Particularly as they got a tough one in Georgia.
And in Pennsylvania, Oz is closing because Oz is hanging crime.
It was the issue set that drove so much of that.
That's why in Nevada, you've got this issue set of inflation and crime and immigration.
And it's playing across the board.
So I don't know how they've got headwinds or just not Biden, but it's the deeper issue set that they banked on abortion, the end of democracy, January 6th, and the Ukraine war.
And Fauci, and none of that played out for him.
Is that how you see it?
unidentified
Yeah, I think most of the issues certainly favor the Republicans, which is why I think the House is pretty much a lock, a done deal.
I still think there's going to be some carryover on the COVID stuff too, that nobody's talking about that, but all the draconian lockdowns, the mask mandates, which were just insane.
The vaccine mandates, like kicking people out of the military for not getting vaccinated.
This kind of stuff, I think, is going to also affect some voters.
But to go back to the specific races you asked about, I mean, I don't think that Republicans are remotely out of the woods in places like Nevada, Wisconsin.
Even J.D.
Vance is making it closer than it really ought to be in Ohio.
I still expect him to win, but who knows?
And North Carolina is certainly not a given.
But those all look good for Republicans.
The race I've been surprised that the GOP has not gone in harder on is Arizona, because Arizona was four points to the right of the country last time around.
I mean, it's a conservative-leaning swing state.
Mark Kelly is kind of a, you know, not a particularly exciting candidate who hasn't been there very long, and it's pretty much just rubber-stamped Biden's agenda.
He's not Sinema from the same state.
And yet Blake Masters has been outraced more than 10 to 1.
It's incredible, I think, that Republicans are not sending money to masters.
But I agree that Oz seems to be picking up ground largely on the basis of pushing crime and immigration and inflation.
Um, and I, and I think, uh, No, if, if Oz, if Oz closes, he's got, he's got 83% of the Republican vote.
steve bannon
That Delta is the Kathy Barnett MAGA crowd.
And I said, Hey, forget whether you like him or not.
It's Fetterman.
He's going to close that MAGA.
MAGA is going to turn out like they did for Youngkin on game day for Oz.
That's what I feel very good about Pennsylvania.
He's run a.
And the War Room has been no fan of Oz, but he's run a very good campaign over the last couple weeks, very much focused on what he knows is working.
Before I let you go, because we want to have you back, the Cook Report, because it's so revered, and I spent a lot of time with the Cook Report numbers.
Give us your analytics, if you can, your secret sauce.
What went into the Dakota ring?
unidentified
I just looked at what Cook had predicted over the last four federal elections and then in their last predictions and then how those elections actually came out.
And it was striking that in their toss-up races, which you'd expect to go 50-50 or very close to it in Senate races over those years, Republicans won 72% of the time, I mean, almost three out of four.
And similarly, the races they said were just liens one way or the other.
When they said it was a Republican lien, which is the slightest margin they give, Republicans went 11 and 0 in those races, and they won by an average of 14 points.
When they said there was a Democratic lean, the Democrats only won by an average of 8.
So a 6-point difference.
They've got a definite bias built in, which I don't know.
I think there's a good chance it's a product of wanting to please a certain set of constituents.
But once you sort of adjust for that bias, I think they're pretty consistent over time and could perhaps be a good predictor of where things are headed.
steve bannon
Tell us about real quickly about the American Main Street Initiative.
What is it, given your time at Justice under President Trump?
unidentified
Yeah, it's an initiative that focuses on the sort of Main Street issues that got President Trump elected in 2016.
The things that everyday Americans care about that the establishment elites typically don't care about.
Anything from, you know, immigration and gas prices to masks.
We've been very active in the mask debate.
Um, so we're sort of a, we're a small nimble think tank that, uh, pushes ideas that everyday Americans care about.
And, and we believe deeply in our constitution and our, uh, Our founding principles.
steve bannon
It sounds like the issue set that's going to win the red tsunami is based upon, so pretty good thinking there.
I think the Democrats, Morning Joe and those guys, I wish they had somebody like you to help them think through the issues instead of the end of democracy, the Ukraine war, and this other marginal issues that are just not to the heart of where American life is today.
Jeffrey, thank you.
Amazing piece over at the American Greatness.
How do people get to your website, social media?
How do people follow you?
unidentified
It's AmericanMainStreet.org is our website.
Just all spelled out AmericanMainStreet.org.
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you, brother.
Fantastic.
Look forward to having you back.
I want everybody to go over there and check it out because this is the issue set that has put us in this position.
The politics and the polling is predicated upon that.
And so that's why you've got to meet these organizations, institutions, groups that are ahead of it.
Let's bring in Dr. Thayer.
He's always been ahead of it.
So this is a huge week.
Particularly for people like you who have dedicated your life to understanding the CCP and its impact on the Chinese people and the greater world.
So this Saturday, I think this starts this Saturday, can you explain to people what the 20th Party Congress is and why this, of all these other party congresses, why this is so monumentally important in world history, sir?
bradley thayer
Absolutely, Steve, and thanks very much for having me on again.
What's going to be happening starting in Beijing on Sunday, actually, Saturday for us, will be the commencement of the Party's 20th Congress.
This is an apocalyptic event.
This is a major event in the history of the Chinese Communist Party and now the history of the world, given China's power in international politics.
What's going to happen is that China's leader, Xi Jinping, is going to receive a third term.
And he's going to be, again, reappointed in the events of the following days to be the General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party and Chairman of the Central Military Commission, which means he's going to be in charge of China's military.
Now, that's significant because what Xi is doing is he's now he's destroyed the rules.
He's not just bent them, but he's remade the rules that Deng Xiaoping put in place after Mao.
Deng Xiaoping, China's leader after Mao, did not want another Mao, and he worked assiduously to ensure that one of his legacies would be that Chinese leaders only served, in essence, two terms as General Secretary of the Communist Party.
unidentified
What Xi is doing, and he's confident enough and bold enough- But hold on, but hold on for a second.
steve bannon
It's not just the terms.
Correct me if I'm wrong, because I don't think Deng Xiaoping, which I spent a lot of time in my life studying this guy minutely, and I'm not even sure Mao, he's chairman of the Communist Party.
He's the head of state and isn't he actually made himself the head of the military, the PLA?
And isn't that unique?
Deng Xiaoping didn't have that.
I'm not so sure Mao Zedong had that.
Isn't it more than just duration?
Isn't that every organ of state power reports to him?
bradley thayer
It does indeed.
And he is a unique leader, but it's fundamentally significant because what he's doing is he's setting new rules for China.
And the Chinese Communist Party, the governance of China.
And it also is significant because it shows his boldness.
We should expect a very different China after next week.
We should expect a Xi Jinping, which is very forceful in making changes in international politics, pushing up against US interests in the Indo-Pacific and globally, the interest of our allies as well.
We're going to find an individual who's going to be far more belligerent and far more aggressive after next week.
And so that's alarming news for Americans, of course, and for stability in international politics.
steve bannon
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
How could he get any more aggressive?
He basically has a plan that he's been up front about, about uniting the Eurasian landmass.
And with allies now, the Mullahs in Iran, Erdogan to a degree, obviously Russia.
He's underwriting the entire Russia situation.
He's also gone to, you know, Made in China 2025, which is, you know, the 10 industries they want to dominate, including the top five that lead to the convergence in transhumanism.
And he's been as belligerent, I think, as you could get outside of, if you look at unrestricted warfare, information war, cyber war, economic war against the West, other than kinetic war in the South China Sea or over an invasion of Taiwan or an air or naval blockade.
How could this guy get any more aggressive, sir?
bradley thayer
He can get a lot more aggressive, Steve, in every respect.
In India, against India, against Taiwan, against our interests.
This is an individual who's going to be more risk accepting than he has been thus far, because he's got his domestic house in order.
He's in charge of the party, and the party is in charge of China.
So he's confident domestically.
And you think that most of the motivation of Chinese leaders has been when you have domestic stability, you can aggress outward.
You're far more confident in bringing about the changes that you want in international politics.
So Steve, you're exactly right.
He's done so much already, and he's pushed hard already.
But the worst, from our perspective, of course, is yet to come.
So we should expect Given that he has his domestic house in order, given that he sees an opportunity while Biden is in the White House to move forcefully against his interests, what he wants to achieve, unification, in his mind, unification of Taiwan, that is the conquering of Taiwan and measures directed against it, pushing against Japan, pushing against South Korea,
India obviously is a target.
Southeast Asia, Myanmar, a far more extensive military presence in Africa.
And the foundation has already been laid in Central America and in South America to have a far greater military presence there as well.
So we're on the cusp in the years to come of tremendous danger, particularly because the Biden administration has been weak and because our force posture is not what it should be in terms of either our conventional force posture or our nuclear force posture in the region to ensure that aggression is going to be deterred.
So it's a very dangerous time.
Once this guy has his house in order, He's going to be far bolder than he has been thus far.
So it's a very important week next week for all Americans.
The election certainly is important, but we need to recognize what's happening in China and why it's going to make all Americans lives.
It will affect the lives of all of us as a result of the actions, which are the Chinese Communist Party's taking.
unidentified
So it's a very big issue.
steve bannon
We're going to have Dr. Thayer and Bill Gertz, Frank Gaffney, the Committee on the Present Danger of China, of which Lin Chao Han and Dr. Thayer are part of, on every day, both in the morning and afternoon, because of this monumental event in global history.
For our audience, I've known Dr. Theriault now for a couple of years with his writings, brilliant writer, brilliant analyst.
You're not an alarmist.
This is probably the most alarmist I've ever heard you.
You're not an alarmist.
In fact, tell us about your new book.
If people want to get a deeper understanding of the CCP and China, talk to us about your new book you and Lin Chao Han just came out with.
bradley thayer
Right.
My co-author Lin Chao Han and I have just finished a book, Understanding the China Threat.
Which is available which looks at the causes of the China threat and that's the ideology of the Chinese Communist Party and Xi Jinping in particular as what we say that What's happening?
Is there's going to be a car crash?
Steve and like cops investigating a car crash.
They always look to the driver To see whether he's to blame and the driver is using ping and there's a lot of reason to be worried about that driver Secondly, they look at the car.
Well, the car is the Chinese Communist Party.
And that's a very dangerous car.
It's a threat to every other vehicle and pedestrian on the road.
And then thirdly, the road conditions.
And the road conditions are really bad, too, because of China's relative increase in power, the fact that we've let them into our Western economic ecosystem.
So there's lots of reason to be concerned.
And Steve, I think that's exactly right, that this is rather than, I would say, a realistic assessment of what's coming for U.S.
interests and for the American people.
All of the bad things that China is doing presently will get a lot worse after next week, and we should anticipate and see ourselves for that confrontation.
steve bannon
Just to wrap up, we're going to have you back on, obviously, in the days ahead.
You know, we had Gunnar Beck, Dr. Beck from Alternative für Deutschland, talking about Germany and, you know, the German situation, particularly the middle companies with China.
And I talked after that about our energy policy based on fantasy.
Here's what I think is most disturbing.
In your writings and your analysis, Lin Chao's others, Canadian Present Danger, Well, I've been, you know, banned by, you know, sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party.
I think they're the only civilian in history to be fully sanctioned.
So they're a mortal enemy to me and to War Room.
unidentified
But they look at the world as it is, they look at the world realistically.
steve bannon
These are hard, tough, mean, nasty people, but they look at the world realistically.
And in the West, you have Germany, this great nation.
In the United States, and so much is based on fantasy, and so much is based on, particularly I talk to people about China, they have almost no understanding and almost no interest in understanding.
The biggest problem we have is an elite that lives in a fantasy land and against an existential threat of hard-bitten revolutionary criminals who, if you like them or don't like them, take the world as it is and make tough decisions.
We've got to go.
Dr. Thayer, one more time, your social media, Lin Chaohan, how did they get to your ranks in the book?
We're going to have you back on with your assessment and the run-up every day to the 20th Party Congress.
bradley thayer
Steve, thanks very much.
Bradley Thayer at Getter and at Truth and ThayerHan1 on Twitter.
Thanks very much, Steve.
steve bannon
And one more time, the book's on Amazon.
Understanding the China Threat is on Amazon right now.
People are going to get it.
bradley thayer
It is, Steve.
Absolutely.
So look forward to developing these arguments next week.
unidentified
Yes, the driver, the car, the road.
steve bannon
I like that.
bradley thayer
All bad.
unidentified
Road conditions.
steve bannon
All bad.
Hey, when Thayer's telling that he's not alarmist, it's time to sit up and take notice.
Okay, we're gonna see you tomorrow morning.
Every day is packed non-stop.
Morning and afternoon.
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