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The top issues for Latinos was actually the cost of living.
We see that prices are through the roof, and we want to know what people are going to do to help put that burden down.
In conservative stronghold states like Texas, signs of a political shift among Latino voters, with more now leaning Republican.
Jose Arreola and Maria Batres live in El Paso.
Maria, you We're a Democrat, and you are now a Republican.
Why?
Because of the fact that the Democratic Party has changed a lot, and I identify more with the Republican Party.
What things?
Well, we're for God, country, family, and hard work.
Jose used to vote blue too.
Now he's also a Republican and most concerned with immigration and beefing up border security.
What are the concerns you have about immigration?
The fact of the matter is that we, you know, we don't feel safe anymore.
The new NBC News Telemundo poll shows Republicans may be cutting into Democrats' lead among a key and diverse group of voters.
NBC's Steve Kornacki is live for us at the Big Board talking all things politics as we are now closing in on the midterm elections.
Steve, it's good to see you.
Help us understand what this poll shows and what Democrats should take away from it.
Yeah, Hallie, really interesting numbers here because it gets at a big question that was raised by the 2020 election.
We saw Donald Trump do much better with Latino voters in 2020 than he had done in 2016.
And we said, well, is that something that's going to continue into the future?
So we did hear NBC News and Telemundo, a poll of Latino voters, some really good data here.
Take a look at it this way.
A couple ways here of looking at it.
But first, Joe Biden's popularity among Latino voters.
He does have just barely here above 50% approval rating.
51.45.
Compare that to voters overall in our most recent NBC poll.
It's a little better.
Biden's doing a little bit better with Latino voters.
Not that much better.
51 versus 45 with voters overall.
Where it really starts to get interesting is on this issue, though, of the generic congressional ballot.
When you ask folks, do you want the Democrats or the Republicans to be running Congress here?
Among Latino voters in this poll, we do show Democrats ahead.
Democrats ahead by 21 points.
You might look at that and say, ah, it's a pretty good lead for Democrats.
Well, here's the context for that 21 points.
If you look at the 2020 election, Biden versus Trump, it was 21 points.
And the 2020 election was the election where Donald Trump did much better with Hispanic voters than anyone was expecting.
Because if you went back to 2016, Hillary Clinton's margin with Latinos was 38.
Came all the way down to 21 for Biden in 2020, and look, it is still at 21.
So the margin we're finding in this poll right now is on the level with the margin that Biden was kept to by Donald Trump in 2020.
So the question that was raised by 2020 was, would this continue?
Our poll suggests it may well be.
And there could be big implications for that, obviously, when you start looking at particularly some key House races, some South Texas, California, some other places, some Senate races in Arizona and Nevada.
Also, One thing that's emerging here among Latino voters here, we see this among white voters and we're starting to see this among Latino voters.
A divide based on gender and educational attainment.
Latino voters who do not have college degrees and are male, only favor the Democrats by 8 points.
College educated male Latinos, Democrats by 15.
Latino women, Without college degrees, Democrats by 28.
College educated Latino women, Democrats by 35.
You see that number get bigger and bigger as you go up the degree chain there and you go from men to women.
We see a similar dynamic when you're looking at white voters too.
So that now starts to become an element, it looks like, when you're looking at the Latino vote, one of the reasons it's becoming more competitive politically.
steve bannon
I guess it's the same with Hispanic voters, is that these kids get dumber as they get more educated.
Okay, that says something about our college system.
Welcome.
It's Monday, 3 October, Year of Error, 2022.
Year in the War.
We've got a lot to get through.
By the way, Donald Trump keynotes the Hispanic Leadership Conference on Wednesday.
I think it's in Miami.
Our own Steve Cortez kicks it off in the morning.
We're going to do wall-to-wall.
Coverage of that.
I want to bring in Boris.
By the way, Kornacki's a pretty straight shooter, but he didn't really get down to the substance of this.
The cross tabs and the issue set is devastating to the Democrats.
They're going to get blown out.
And I want to say something about the woman at the top when MSNBC reporter asked her about what they stood for.
God, country, family.
Correct me if I'm wrong, is that not Georgia Maloney's family, God, homeland and family?
She just repeated it.
God, country, family, oh, and hard work, which is also Georgia Maloney.
It shows you the power of this populist nationalist movement and we're about to run the tables.
In the six o'clock hour, I have Congressman Andy Biggs and Jim Hoft from Gateway Pundit.
We are going to go into depth about Gateway Pundit's seven concepts, ideas, action items to make sure they can't steal it from us.
You're not going to want to miss that because we get down and dirty.
Boris Epstein, the polling, I know you've been spending all your time on this legal and I got Mike Davis here to follow up, but today I've got you guys up for a difference.
You on the politics of it, particularly this Hispanic, why President Trump's at this Hispanic leadership conference on Wednesday with Mike.
We're going to talk about the opening of the Supreme Court on a session that could be more historic than their first one under the Thomas Court.
Boris Epstein, the politics of all this, where do you see it playing out now?
We're what, five weeks away, sir?
It's the first working day of the fourth quarter, and early voting has started, and game day is 8 November, sir.
boris epshteyn
Steve, it's an honor to be with you.
Honor to be with the posse.
Great to see you on video.
Still looking good.
Okay.
That's good news.
That's good news for everybody.
You know, maybe you're not quite in your great Gatsby mode from the 70s.
Okay, maybe.
But, you know, you're still looking good.
And I may have showed a picture, quick story for the posse, showed a picture of the one and only Steve Bannon to a woman on the plane today, and the woman goes, wow, is he handsome.
And yes, the woman is mentally sane.
I have got breaking news for this audience.
Breaking news.
Signal not known.
In the last hour, President Trump has filed a lawsuit against CNN for defamation, and he's suing for $475 million in punitive damages against CNN, absolutely annihilating CNN in this powerhouse lawsuit.
President Trump said he would see them in court this summer when he sent CNN a letter, and now the lawsuit has been filed.
And it goes chapter and verse, chapter and verse, on how CNN perpetrated an absolute, organized, coordinated attack against President Trump and the MAGA movement by coining this term, Big Lie, which originates with Adolf Hitler.
CNN defamed President Trump.
It wronged President Trump.
It defamed and wronged the MAGA movement, and President Trump is standing up for America and for our movement with this lawsuit just filed in federal court in Florida, assigned to a very strong judge.
The game is on, okay?
The heat is on.
We are not messing around.
We're not letting the weaponization of the DOJ put us on the back foot.
It is all Offense for President Trump, the War Room Posse, and the MAGA movement.
So just now, breaking right here on War Room, a lawsuit filed, defamation, robust lawsuit by President Trump in Florida against fake news CNN.
steve bannon
So let me just ask you a question on being a public figure.
How does a public figure... Look, President Trump gets defamed every day, but isn't that the coin of the realm in this kind of hardball politics today?
What's the justification for the defamation?
Or to take it to court and figure that you can actually make a case that John...
That John Malone would say, I think we have a problem here.
Because he's a smart guy.
He's really the owner now.
Willful malice?
boris epshteyn
Well, willful and actual malice.
And John Maloney, who is a very smart guy, there's a reason.
It's mentioned in the lawsuit.
And I urge everybody to read the lawsuit.
It's mentioned in it that the new head of CNN came in and said, hey, can you guys stop saying that big lie thing?
Just time out.
Stop.
No more big lie.
And several of the anchors said no more big lie.
But others like fake tap are down on big lie, big lie, big lie, big lie.
And now they've walked into it.
And hey, President Trump told them when he sent the letter, he told them, stop this, retract, retract your statement, and there's not going to be a suit.
CNN said, oh, no, we've got no problems.
Well, now John Malone and CNN have a major problem on their hands.
They've got a powerhouse lawsuit that absolutely, absolutely walks on the right side of the New York Times if you sell them, because the key issue, again, is actual and willful malice.
And anybody who reads the suit will see that the narrative The story is so clear.
And CNN even took credit for getting President Trump out of the election in 2020.
And now they're so petrified of him, they're so petrified of President Trump leading in the polls by a mile, dominating in the polls against Republicans and Democrats, that they're trying to get him out for 2024.
So this lawsuit is a- This is not- This is not- This is not- You know, PR.
This is a legal powerhouse lawsuit where actual willful malice is absolutely proven.
And you know what?
It'll be up to CNN to respond.
But what are they going to say?
They know what they did.
They know they're liable.
So CNN, we'll see you in court.
steve bannon
By the way, the discovery process and the depositions might be a great television series, The discovery about the meetings they had, the text messages, what they said to each other, how they plotted to do this over many, many years and consistently did it would be quite stunning.
Would you not think, Boris Epstein?
boris epshteyn
It's going to be stunning is one way to put it.
Stunning is one way to put it.
What's going to happen is that CNN is actually going to have to go out there and prove that no, no, no, there was no fraud.
Good luck in Georgia, Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin, Nevada, New Mexico.
Stunning is only one way to put it.
What the reality of it is, what the reality of it is, is that CNN has nowhere to hide on this suit.
And it's been done so meticulously, so specifically.
It's been done with absolute full research of all the applicable laws, rules, regulations, and precedent.
This is a major problem for CNN.
And hey, believe you me, CNN is not the last one.
President Trump said in his statement when he sent a letter to CNN that others are going to be sued.
And yes, others who have received appropriate letters are also going to have to be held accountable.
For participating in a coordinated attack on the American people.
Coordinated attack on President Trump.
Coordinated attack on the truth by spreading this disgusting notion that it is the big lie that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen.
The 2020 election was the big steal.
That's what it was.
It was stolen from the American people.
President Trump has said it from From the night of, from the morning of November 4, 2020.
Steve, you and I know that better than anybody.
He's been consistent in it.
He's been fighting for the truth.
And this is another major step in that battle for the truth about what really happened.
steve bannon
You know, I've noticed a sea change and a little bit going on offense here, you know, starting with, uh, the raid and ransack.
It's been offense, offense, offense in this suit as it's filed.
Are individuals also named or if they're not, will that come later?
boris epshteyn
I don't want to get into some of the specifics of it.
Here's what I will tell you.
That CNN, as a corporate entity, is the defendant in the suit and everything that goes with that.
And in terms of what you said, Steve, in terms of offense, it was my honor to be at the rally in Michigan of President Trump on Saturday.
And I've been to a lot of them.
I was 15, 16, 20.
Now, I will tell you.
The sheer power.
And it was hot in the room.
It was a hot day.
It was a space.
It was sort of like a gymnasium auditorium of a community college in Warren, Michigan.
And we're so thankful to them for having us.
It was meant to have maybe, you know, 100, 200 people.
8,000 people inside and not much outside.
The heat was on and the power, the relationship, the authenticity between President Trump and his movement was unlike anything I have ever experienced.
And President Trump talked about the weaponization of law enforcement, the weaponization of our court system against the MAGA movement.
He talked about all the achievements of his administration and the disaster that Biden has been.
Most of all, he talked about that when they come for him, when they come for the MAGA movement, they come for all of us.
And that is why he's continuing to fight for us.
And again, this lawsuit and the strong fights that are going on, on the document hoax, the raid, the fights going on against the J6 committee, so on and so forth, are all battlefront in that war for America, in that war for what's right.
steve bannon
Boris, I'm going to get you back on to Mark because I gave you through the politics of this.
Right now, how can people find you on social media?
boris epshteyn
I want to say one last thing.
I had the honor of being there when President Trump taped that video for Bolsonaro.
Bolsonaro in Brazil goes from being 14 down and out of the running.
I mean, literally, he was done, out of the running, for being in the runoff.
He was supposed to be done.
President Trump re-ups his endorsement, does the video.
Bolsonaro is now in the runoff.
That is the power of worldwide populist nationals, worldwide Boris, thank you very much.
make your country great again. That is what President Trump brings and you're gonna see that all across the country here on November 8th.
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steve bannon
Boris, thank you very much. Mike Davis in the Supreme Court, next.
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steve bannon
Welcome back to The Worm.
We have Abe on Hamaday.
Abe, we're seeing all kind of numbers come out of Arizona now.
It looks like the Cary Lake, Abe Hamaday, Fincham tickets starting to get some traction, although these folks are running away from actually confronting their policies and debating you guys consistently.
What's going on in Arizona and how big is the Hispanic, the tectonic plate shift in the Hispanic vote going to mean in a victory for the lake?
Take it, sir.
abe hamadeh
I think it's going to be huge.
The Hispanics are blocking the Republican Party in numbers that we've never seen before.
But not just Hispanics, black Americans, other minorities.
I think when we look at the policies that affect minority groups, it's a Democratic policy.
So they're fed up with it, with this rise in inflation, fentanyl in their communities and a rise in crime.
But you're right about how the opponents don't want to debate the issues.
Last week, I had my debate against my opponent.
But it turned out to be a debate against not just my opponent, but also the two moderators who used to be the employer of my opponent.
So it was it was quite fun.
You still got to be happy warrior because ultimately, you know, once people hear us speak, and they see the contrast between the Arizona vision with this new America first movement, versus the misery, misery and chaotic hellhole that they want to create, you know, it becomes clearer.
But I'm absolutely convinced that Carrie Lake, Mark Fincher, myself and we got to get Blake Masters on the top.
But right now we've got all the momentum on our side because people are finally fed up and this is the Hispanic outreach is going to be huge and it's going to carry us to victory.
steve bannon
Let's talk about that.
I wouldn't even call it a debate.
Why are they so hesitant?
to back up their policies?
What, they all run, if you see spots out there, we watch all the states and all the spots, they're running as moderate Republicans.
Why are they afraid to go in front of voters and actually embrace their policies and talk about the defunding and talk about the open borders and talk about all the chaos?
Why, it's clearly works for them during when they're in power.
Why won't they defend it, sir?
abe hamadeh
I can't answer that, you know, Steve, because I don't know, but we've seen what the Democrats are in power the last 18 months, but not just under the Biden administration, but every single city that is under Democratic control right now has turned into chaos and misery.
Just look at San Francisco, Chicago, New York.
They've enacted these far left Democratic policies and their cities have gone to hell.
So, you know, that's what they have to defend on.
But if you, my debate only consisted of basically two questions, Steve.
They talk about abortion and the election.
And then they threw in the fentanyl crisis at the last minute, but you're exactly right.
They're trying to come off as moderate, but they're not going to win this.
I mean, when you have Bill Maher, the comedian, basically become red-pilled because of how far left they've gone, you know, it's a good sign for us.
That's why, I mean, the polls have us up big time right now, myself and Kerry and Mark.
So, you know, we just got to carry this onto the finish line.
Early voting starts next week, Steve, but, you know, that TV spot that you just saw, we're going up on TV this week.
The Republican Attorney General Association's all in, and the Democratic Attorney General Association just withdrew money from my opponent.
But it doesn't mean that we can stop, because who knows if they got Tom Steyer or George Soros or Michael Bloomberg to come in and help fund my opponent, so we can use all the resources possible right now.
steve bannon
No, you've got to run through the tape.
Abe, how do people find out?
About the campaign, how they find out about where you're going to be so they can come out and support you.
And if they're so inclined, hit you with a 20.
Where do they go?
abe hamadeh
Absolutely, Steve.
They can go to Abe4AG.com.
A-B-E-F-O-R-A-G.com.
I got my Twitter at Abraham Hamadeh.
And I'll be speaking, of course, at the Trump rally on Sunday this week.
steve bannon
It's going to be amazing.
And the job you guys are doing is absolutely incredible.
So keep fighting, Abe.
abe hamadeh
Thank you, Steve.
steve bannon
I want to bring in Mike Davis.
Mike, first off, tell us, because the audience reveres your thought process, how important is it for us to win these AG races in this state, sir?
mike davis
These state attorneys general races are critically important because they are the guys filing the lawsuits against the Biden administration for the Biden administration's overreach or lack of enforcement, whether it's immigration, CDC, The state AGs oftentimes have the ability and the standing to fight the federal government, and that's why it's so important that Republican Attorneys General win this November.
steve bannon
I mean, I think we lost that.
You know, Secretaries of State and AGs, people took their eye off the ball.
Soros didn't.
I mean, Soros, from the prosecutors to the AGs, the Secretary of State, he was smart and cunning.
He knew exactly where to put his money, didn't he, sir?
mike davis
He did, and he's He was very smart about it and his prosecutors, his secretaries of state are very destructive.
They're very subversive and they want to gut election integrity and they want to go soft on crime and destroy American cities and turn these red states into blue states.
And so we have to elect politicians like Abe who have backbones of steel who will fight back against this.
steve bannon
Mike, we've talked a little bit, but I want you to lay out the case that this session of the Supreme Court could actually be more historic than the session, the last session last year.
Why would that even be a part?
Last year was so huge.
How could that possibly be topped with the cases in front of the court, sir?
mike davis
So it's going to be a big term.
Last year, they had roughly 63 cases that the Supreme Court, merits cases that the Supreme Court decided after oral argument.
The Supreme Court has already granted cert in 36 cases so far.
They filled the October and November settings.
These cases are huge.
One is this EPA case dealing with the Clean Water Act and whether the EPA has the power under the Clean Water Act to regulate your backyard ponds.
They clearly don't, but the EPA has taken This expansive view of its power, and I think the Supreme Court is going to start to rein in these administrative agencies, both under the statute, their enabling statute, and maybe under other issues that we've talked about before many times on your show, like the non-delegation doctrine.
Not only does the federal government not have these powers, Congress certainly cannot delegate legislative powers to the executive branch.
So that's going to be, these are going to be some important cases.
Another really important case, Steve, is There's two cases regarding redistricting.
One is in Alabama, when Democrats are claiming that the Alabama state legislature violated Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and the way it redistricted its U.S.
House That's going to be decided by the Supreme Court.
Another one that's even more important is under our Constitution, state legislatures get to redraw U.S.
House seats every decade, and Democrats try to have their Democrat-appointed state Supreme Court justices and Democrat-appointed commissioners do this job for the state legislature.
Because Republicans control more state legislatures than Democrats, Democrats are trying to sue And change the outcomes of what these state legislatures have decided for their U.S.
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House seats.
mike davis
So I think the Supreme Court is finally going to put an end to this.
Democrats call it the independent state legislature theory because they want to make it sound like it's a figment of Republican conservative imagination when it's actually the words in the Constitution.
So that's going to be a big case.
We also have affirmative action cases coming out of Harvard and the University of North Carolina where I think the Supreme Court is going to finally end the affirmative action, which is racial discrimination against Asian Americans and white Americans.
It needs to be about merit and not your skin color.
There's cases that are coming out.
There's a case in Colorado where this website operator, a Christian website operator, can't be forced to build websites against their Christian beliefs on LGBT issues.
There are plenty of... I split my time in Colorado.
There are plenty of bakers in Colorado that will bake any cake you want.
There are plenty of website developers who will put up any website you want.
So stop picking on, stop targeting these Christian bakers and Christian website operators.
Leave them the hell alone and let them do let them run their businesses, run their own shops.
And so those are some big important cases.
There's also a case with Texas against the Biden administration over the Biden administration's refusal to enforce our immigration laws.
So this is gonna be a big term of court.
steve bannon
Talk to us briefly about the tech of it all.
These bills passed last week, but quite frankly, fairly de minimis.
Ken Buck did a good job, but fairly de minimis support from the Republicans.
Where do we stand right now with really taking on big tech and breaking up these tech oligarchs?
mike davis
We have a big problem in the U.S.
House of Representatives, and I hate to break it to the war room posse, but that big problem is Jim Jordan.
Jim Jordan is the top Republican on the House Judiciary Committee.
He talks a big game about how he's taking on big tech, but he says that publicly.
But behind the scenes, he is Google's biggest champion.
And he whipped very effectively against three very modest House bills that Congressman Ken Buck, conservative all-star from Colorado, along with Senator Chuck Grassley, my former boss, Tom Cotton, Mike Lee, not exactly liberals, were championing these three modest reforms to hold Big Tech accountable through antitrust law enforcement.
Jim Jordan whipped ferociously behind the scenes.
There should have been 100 or more House Republicans on these bills.
Jim Jordan got it down to 39.
If you can't support these three modest proposals as a House Republican, you're not serious about taking on Big Tech.
steve bannon
Well, here's, you know, Jordan is a revered guy.
He's going to be not run for speaker because he wants judiciary.
He's going to be the tip of the spear in all the investigations and the oversight.
What is his problem with, why do you say he's defending big tech?
What's the problem?
Because he's such a revered guy in the MAGA movement.
mike davis
Look, this is not like Daryl.
I expect Daryl Issa to be a Google advocate, shill, whatever, because that is his district.
And Daryl Issa makes no bones about the fact that he's supporting Big Tech.
I mean, he should.
It's his constituents.
Jim Jordan, on the other hand, pretends like he's fighting for Big Tech publicly, but then does their bidding behind the scenes and twists a lot of arms to do Google's bidding.
And I think he needs to be exposed.
steve bannon
Okay, hang over a second.
If you just hang, we're going to take a short break.
We're going to return.
We've got Mike Davis and a whole bunch more in the War Room.
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steve bannon
OK, Davis, you have become a beloved and revered figure for the War Room Posse, given your hard work you've done over the last, I don't know, almost year here, nine months.
But Jim Jordan's also a beloved and revered figure.
Why can't our beloved and revered figures figure this out on Big Tech Oligarch, sir?
mike davis
Well, that's a good question.
I mean, I think the problem with Jim Jordan on Big Tech is he has taken too much Google money, and his top staffers on the House Judiciary Committee have taken too much Google money and gone on these expensive trips around the world.
And so I think they're too beholden to Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple.
You know, it sounds like a pretty cheap legislator.
He's a pretty cheap legislator to buy because he's absolutely doing Google's better.
steve bannon
Do they understand Mike Davis when Mike Davis comes to a fight?
You know, if you bring a knife or bring a gun, do they understand the Mike Davis part of it?
mike davis
I don't know.
I don't know.
So we started the Internet Accountability Project about three years ago.
We had been the first conservative group on the right going after big tech.
on antitrust section 230 data privacy that we've made this a key issue. There are key pieces of legislation, bipartisan legislation, that could pass right now to hold Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple accountable and make sure that they stop their censorship of conservatives.
If Google competed against YouTube instead of acquired YouTube, they wouldn't be able to censor conservatives.
And there are key bills that have been working their way through the House and Senate, championed by Congressman Ken Buck, Republican All-Star from Colorado, championed by my former boss, Chuck Grassley from Iowa, Mike Lee, Tom Cotton.
These are three Very modest bills that ensures that when state attorneys general file lawsuits against Big Tech, they can keep the lawsuits in their home states and they don't get dragged out to the Northern District of California and have these tech-friendly judges throw out their lawsuits, right?
We have a bill that makes sure that when Big Tech is trying to merge, that they disclose that they have subsidies from China And other enemies of the United States.
It makes sure that we increase the merger fees on Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple so we can fund antitrust law enforcement to make sure that they don't use their market power to cancel conservatives, crush competitions, shutter small businesses.
Congressman Jim Jordan has fought these efforts tooth and nail for the last Two years.
And not only does he fight these things, he's not being honest about it.
He pretends like he's fighting big tech when he's actually doing their bidding.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll get down to it. We'll find out more about this and drill down on it because absolutely this is going to be a huge issue in the new Congress. And we know where Donald J.
Trump comes down on this. He's all for breaking up these oligarchs.
So it's kind of shocking about Congressman Jordan, but we'll make sure we get them on here and get their point of view and see if we can't bring Mike Davis and Jim Jordan together. Mike, how do people get to you in Article 3 and particularly your social media, which comes in a little hot every now and again?
mike davis
How do people get to you? It's article3project.org, article3project.org, at article3project, at article3project.
And then my personal is MRDDMIA at MRDDMIA.
And we do not take any big tech funding with any of these groups, unlike Jim Jordan.
steve bannon
Mike Davis, thank you very much.
You're a fighter.
Thank you for coming on to explain the Supreme Court to us.
Appreciate it.
mike davis
Thank you, sir.
steve bannon
This big tech fight is going to be huge.
I spoke at the American Freedom Alliance meetings on Saturday and Sunday.
They were absolutely extraordinary.
Karen Siegman and the team did just an incredible job.
We're going to start rolling out the speakers this week to make sure people can get a full flavor of what went on.
Terry Baudet is a member of the Dutch Parliament.
He's the author of a new book on the World Economic Forum and the Great Reset.
Had a very powerful pre-recorded talk to the forum.
Terry, thank you very much for joining us.
Before I ask you about the book, Tell me about, since you're one of the leaders in the populist nationalist movement in Europe, recent developments, Swedish Democrats, Georgia Maloney's sweeping victory, and what happened with Bolsonaro last night, this kind of come from behind, getting into the second round.
Can you put that into perspective, sir?
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Yeah, so thank you very much for having me, Steve.
I've been an admirer of your show for a long time.
It's very exciting to talk to an American audience tonight from Amsterdam.
And what we have seen in Europe is very surprising over the last couple of months.
It's the same in the United States, it's in Europe as well.
The left-wing press has had an almost complete control over the narrative, the political narrative in our country.
Yet all these nationalist populist movements did so much better than they would have expected them to.
And indeed they had a surprising win in Sweden recently.
And in Italy last week.
And I think that this will strengthen the, you can say, the conservative axis which runs through Budapest in Hungary, through Warsaw in Poland.
And it's really becoming pretty scary, I would say, for the progressives in hiding in Brussels with the European institutions imposing their progressive social policies and progressive immigration policies on these countries.
So I think we're going to see a lot of pushback from that in Europe in the coming months and years.
steve bannon
years. What is cause that you...
You were one of the others.
You were kind of the lone voice in the wilderness, you know, as you had, you know, the Nigel Farage's and Le Pen's.
But now it seems to be sweeping.
Is this because of the economy?
Is this overreach from the pandemic?
Is this part of what's happened in the Ukrainian war?
Why now?
Why Swedish Democrats now?
Why Giorgio Maloney now?
Why what happened in the Czech Republic over the weekend now?
Why is it happening now, sir?
unidentified
Well, I think one of the most important drivers of political change right now is the economic situation.
We've seen in the Netherlands, for example, and this is a general trend in Europe, we've seen a soaring inflation rate.
We've now got an official number of 17 percent inflation in the Netherlands.
And people are beginning to feel this in their wallets.
They felt it in Italy for years, having had an imposed leader of the government there, Mario Draghi, who was of course the president of the European Central Bank before, responsible for the mass printing of money and therefore of the loosening of our currency situation.
We see energy prices going through the roof.
So across the board, people in Europe are thinking, look, the current political class is not working for us.
So they're voting for parties of change.
And I would like to add, it's important to be happy for successful developments, of course, like right-wing party winning.
But in Italy, we also saw the radical anti-establishment left-wing party, the Five Star Movement, achieve a very significant win.
And the interesting thing is that Nigel Farage, with his Brexit party, built a very successful coalition with the Five Star Movement in Brussels, in the European Parliament.
So it's not only the right-wing, the traditional right-wing parties that are winning, it's actually anti-systemic parties across the board that are winning.
And that means that the European institutions, but also the elites in general, the mainstream political parties are losing ground.
And I think that's a very positive development.
steve bannon
Talk to me about a little bit, we got a minute or so, about the book.
What drove you to write it?
It comes out, I think, now in October, late October, early November.
What drove you to write it and what's your thesis about the Great Reset and the World Economic Forum?
unidentified
Yeah, so I wrote a book, it's called The Covid Conspiracy.
People can pre-order it on amsterdambooks.com, amsterdambooks.com, it's very easy.
And what I describe is how As a member of the Dutch parliament, I was involved from the very beginning with everything that happened during the COVID pandemic, so from early January 2020.
And I was on the rise as a political party to become a possible member of the government after the next elections.
And I saw from the very up close what it meant for the establishment elites to impose all the Social control, the lockdown, then the vaccinations.
And they knew all the reports were there, that the measures were ineffective, that it didn't make any sense, that there were tons of options to expand the health care system, for example.
But they kept saying that there weren't enough hospital beds and so on and so forth.
So I started digging deeper.
What's behind this?
Why are they doing this?
Why are they imposing all these social restrictions?
And I discovered A monstrous plan, which is called the Great Reset, which goes by many names, Build Back Better, the Sustainable Development Goals, and so on and so forth.
But it's being written down, it's being talked about, it's being planned at the World Economic Forum, at the Davos meetings, by the United Nations, the World Health Organization.
And their aim is ultimately to install a social credit system in our Western countries That's modeled after the Chinese situation.
And this is supported by members of the government across the board, from Justin Trudeau in Canada to Joe Biden in your country, United States, to the several prime ministers in European countries.
And I wanted to write a book about it to expose them.
I took all the flak for it because, of course, they will immediately I don't want to denounce you as a conspiracy theorist, but I can prove it by formal documents, by speeches, by debates and so on.
This is what they are aiming at.
This is what they're planning for.
And COVID was essentially a dry run for this operation.
It was a test.
They tried to see how far people would be willing to go.
And unfortunately, people were willing to go very far.
steve bannon
By the way, the power of the book.
I was honored to write the preface for it.
And of course, your video presentation at American Freedom Alliance this weekend.
Before I let you go, you also had some very good news on a personal basis.
You and your wife, can you let our audience in on what happened with you guys last week or so?
unidentified
Thank you, Steve.
This is wonderful.
We just had a baby.
On Saturday, September 24th, our son Lancelot was born.
steve bannon
I love the name.
Fantastic.
Thierry, how can people follow you on social media?
How do they get to your website?
How do they follow you?
You're a European that speaks perfect English, so it's very much access to our audience.
How do people get there?
unidentified
It's very easy.
I'm on Twitter.
It's Thierry Baudet.
It's just my name.
I'm verified with a blue mark or a red mark in America.
It's easy to find.
Um, you can, you can order my book on amsterdambook.com and, um, also fvd.nl.
That's the name of our party.
We have an English language website, fvdinternational.com.
So there are lots of options to reach out.
And I really hope to come back on your show more often, Steve.
steve bannon
Oh, no, we'd love to have you on.
Thank you so much for joining us tonight and staying up late to join us.
Uh, look forward to having you back on.
unidentified
Have a great day.
steve bannon
Bye bye.
A brilliant young man and a true fighter.
Let me bring in another brilliant young man and a true fighter, Alex Brucewitz.
By the way, we'll play the Keith Oberman, but here's the thing.
Can you just walk us through?
You've gotten an awful lot of grief from a lot of blue check Twitter, Alex.
What has it been about?
unidentified
Well, so on Friday you had me on.
Thanks for having me back.
Well, on Friday we had a conversation about a vicious smear campaign that was being leveled against a great man and a great candidate, Joe Ken Washington.
Hey, CNN reporter named Andrew, whatever his name is, goes by K-File, who's one of the biggest spear artists in the game, and he doctors, team makers, and writes vicious lies about anybody he disagrees with.
He wrote a nasty piece about our friend Joe Kent, and I said that he went through a rough patch in his life, and I'm surprised he's still a terrible person.
And people didn't like that.
They claimed I invoked the death Alex, Alex, hang on one second.
We'll be right back.
We'll play Keith Overman's take.
way and I donated to his organization like so many other conservatives did, but still write vicious attack pieces as a conservative and sacrifice Keith as a member. Alex, Alex, hello, hang on one second. We'll be right back. We'll play Keith over a mistake.
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But the gold medal goes to a kid named Alex Brusiewicz, and it's hard to describe exactly what he does.
They call him a Republican strategist, and he goes around claiming the party was created by Trump in 2015.
And, in fact, he's one of those guys that people like Steve Bannon bring on to their shows so he can complete the act.
And he has this guy, Brusiewicz, play the role of the ventriloquist's dummy.
Bannon was interviewing Brusewitz about the latest round of fascists who have faced abuse, which for the rest of us is known as having the guts to answer questions, which they don't, and they got around to a discussion of Washington State House candidate Joe Kent and how CNN's investigative reporter Andrew Kicinski found out that in June Kent had done an interview with a blogger who has openly said America should have sided with the Nazis in World War II because German Jews were planning genocide.
The Kent campaign said in response to Kaczynski's CNN report, how are we supposed to know?
We don't vet every interviewer.
And then Kaczynski pointed out that the blogger and Kent were photographed together several times at a fundraiser two months before the interview.
At one point, Bruce Woods told Bannon that Kent could not be an anti-Semite, so this was all irrelevant because, quote, he's got a lot of Jewish donors.
Very wealthy New York Jewish families are big fans of Joe Kent.
Having been defeated on the facts and having nothing left, Kent's backers, like this clown Brucewitz, did what they always do.
They then attacked CNN and the reporter Andrew Kosinski, whose reports are marked K-file.
I'm turning off the music for a couple of reasons.
You may remember that last year, Andrew Kaczynski and his wife, Rachel, chronicled the story of their daughter, Francesca.
They called her Beans and her fight against a rare form of pediatric brain cancer.
Francesca and her parents were brave and noble and were public about their sadness.
She was nine months old when she died.
And she died on Christmas Eve.
So, of course, while trying to discredit Kaczynski's reporting about the fascist Kent to please our American resputant Bannon, this little scumbag, Alex Brusewitz, brought up Francesca's death.
It's a guy named K-File.
He's from CNN.
He's a total fake news hacker.
alex bruesewitz
You know, he went through a rough patch, and I thought he would have changed hard and become a decent person after what he went through, but he's still a lion piece of crap.
unidentified
And so he attacks Joe Kent by basically accusing him...
Many have noted that the point of the Trump cult is to reward the Alex Brusewitzes of this country, the maladjusted, the damaged, the people of this nation whose humanity has been so broken and crushed that empathy and decency will never mean anything to them.
They are the heartless machines, the Alex Brusewitzes, and Trump exists so they can not only feel like the total failures they are, but they can...
steve bannon
So, Alex, that's Keith Olbermann.
And people remember when Keith Olbermann was on MSNBC, that was the big part of his show, The Worst Person in the World.
He deemed you the worst person in the world.
First off, is Joe Kent a fascist, sir?
unidentified
There's nothing about Joe Kent that reminds me of fascism.
One, he's not a Democrat.
Two, he served our nation honorably, multiple combat tours overseas and he didn't go over to defend just white Americans or conservative Americans.
He went over to defend every American. He lost his wife in the process, in a tragedy. She died serving our country and it's absolutely disgusting that life losers like Keith Olbermann.
steve bannon
I notice Keith Olbermann is not have any empathy for the children of Joe Kenton.
Remember, Joe Kent is not only, I think, an 11 or 12 combat tour warrant officer, Green Beret, that served in combat.
His wife gave her life for the country in the Middle East fighting ISIS.
He's a gold star father, right?
And a combat veteran with young children.
that had their mother die in combat. So Keith, I'd just like to remind you, if you have empathy, remember, there should be empathy on both sides. And Joe Kent's not a fascist, not close to being, it's ridiculous. It's just a smear. But what about the attack on you for bringing up the death of the tragic situation, the death of the daughter he went through and then saying he should have been a better human being? What do you say about that? Well, I
unidentified
like every person that heard about this story had empathy and sympathy towards him and his wife.
It was a terrible thing.
Nobody should have to go through that.
And I prayed for them during that period.
I donated to their charity.
He's doing good work fighting to, you know, raise awareness and research for infancy brain cancer.
No parent should have to go through that.
However, no person, you know, is immune from criticism.
He writes horrible articles about innocent people, good people.
He called Joe Kent a fascist Nazi with no evidence whatsoever, and I never invoked the death of his daughter during that process.
That is what leftists did to attack me after I criticized K-File.
I simply stated, he went through a tough time, I'm surprised he didn't have a come-to-Jesus moment, and stopped smearing and lying about conservatives.
He's a bad guy, the way he treats people like that.
I think this could be a learning experience, and hopefully people can find a sense of humanity and come together after this.
I think it's repulsive that you can just call people Nazis and fascists and then face no consequences of your own.
And so I'm praying for him and his family still during this time, and I will continue to support efforts like his to fight this type of cancer in children.
It's terrible, but I'm not A heartless person?
I never invoked that on my daughter.
That's sick.
steve bannon
Alex, how can people follow this?
Because it's a little intense on your social media.
Where do they go?
unidentified
You can follow at Megan McCain.
She tweeted about it.
She's the disgraceful daughter of poor criminal John McCain.
Or you can follow me at Alex Bruisewith.
steve bannon
Okay, so I guess we're going next level with this, right?
You're Greg Price's partner.
It's X Strategies is the firm.
Thank you very much.
I just want to say, you know, John McCain was a naval warfare hero as his time in the Hanoi Hilton.
But of course, a lot of people had a lot of problems with him as a politician.
I know I did a lot of problems with him, but his naval service unquestioned.
But Alex, thank you very much for coming on here.
Appreciate it.
Okay, next hour we're going to start with Andy Biggs and his film about the border invasion, but we're going to get to Andy Biggs' thoughts about how we make sure this is not stolen.
The election, the sweeping victory we have is not stolen.
We got Jim Hoff from Gateway Pundit to go through the details.
Hang around.
There's another hour of War Room to come.
unidentified
We rejoice when there's no more Let's take down the T.T.D.
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