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Sept. 9, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Battleground EP 133: Passing Of Queen Elizabeth II; CA District 18 Plans On Taking Back California
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peter navarro
Of course, the big news today is the passing of Queen Elizabeth.
I want to bring in Ben Harnwell right now.
He is going to be the best person to talk about all of what this means.
Ben, welcome to the War Room.
What's your view of all of this in terms of the greater significance, sir?
ben harnwell
Good evening, Dr. Navarro.
Yeah, well, as a Brit, the Queen See, I'm born in 75.
The Queen was born in 1922.
My grandfather, who's still alive, was born in 25, OK?
So that's three generations of Hanrels.
And while all of us have been on this planet, the Queen has exceeded us.
There's very, very few people alive in the country that has memories preceding this 70-year-long reign.
So whether you're a monarchist or you're a republican, whatever your views are on the royal family, the presence of the Queen herself for such a long period of time has made a dramatic impact in everybody's lives.
Look, my politics are broadly libertarian.
So if you ask me, in principle, what do I think of the idea of a royal family, I'd probably say, I don't quite know what I feel about the Royal Family.
She asked me what I think about the Queen.
I don't have anything negative to say.
I think she carried that role out with dignity and humility and professionalism in a way that I've not really seen a head of state do in any other country or even in the UK going back in time.
I think she handled that role with an exceptional And the country's going to miss her.
I'm not necessarily a pessimist, but I do think that we're in a gentle decline socially, not just basically in the UK, but right across the West.
We don't mint people like that anymore.
So the attributes and the character and the formation that she brought to the role as head of state, Um, it's going to, it's going to be difficult to see how those are going to be, uh, replaced.
So you've got all these emotions going on.
Sometimes you think about these things with the heart.
Sometimes you think about them with the head, but I definitely think Dr. Navarro is that the Queen represented the very best of Great Britain, both in the way that she conducted herself personally and privately.
And also the way that she conducted herself publicly and officially, and also the way that she conducted herself representing the country abroad.
peter navarro
What does the succession look like now?
And is the successor likely to be more active in the political rough and tumble of British politics?
ben harnwell
Well, King Charles III, has spent many years, decades, out in the wilderness advocating topics which are really front and center now of the progressive establishment mainstream.
So here's environmentalism, for example, which was back, you know, I don't know, back in the 80s, perhaps even before that, you know, it was slightly out there.
This is fully mainstream now.
That will probably be difficult for people on the centre right to digest?
That's just the way it goes.
Yeah, I mean, in answer to your question, he has laid out as Prince of Wales, as I say, as heir to the throne, probably for 50 years, a certain political platform, internationalist, globalist, environmentalist, and all the things, you know, that you and I will hate.
That said, I can't help but feel that now that he is king, he will probably tone that down and try and represent all Britons and the political aspirations of all Britons, that is to say, impartially and non-partisan.
Because that's one of the reasons that Queen Elizabeth II, no matter what your view is on politics or on monarchism versus republicanism.
That's why she was loved by the whole country.
And as time goes on and people's nostalgia starts to set in, this will be very much a second Elizabethan age.
It will be a golden age, just like the first Elizabethan age.
And that's due to the way she conducted herself as head of state.
And I think King Charles We'll have seen that more intimately and closely than anyone else.
And he will try as best as he's able to imitate that so that he will similarly be loved by Britons.
peter navarro
Ben, thank you so much for staying up late to talk to the War Room.
Just give us your social media now and we'll let you head off to sleep.
ben harnwell
Thank you, Dr. Navarro.
Well, I'm exclusively on Getter.
As you always say, Getter is better.
That's where I am.
It's my profile, atHarnwell.
That's my surname.
It's the verified account.
Please be aware, because there are imitator accounts out there.
I'm also on Telegram, by the way, asking for money in telephone numbers.
They're not me.
My account is simply atHarnwell on Getter.
And that's where I am pushing out my analysis 24-7.
peter navarro
All right, my friend, good evening to you.
Thank you so much for sharing on this.
ben harnwell
God bless.
unidentified
Thank you, Calvary Chapel, for having me back.
As was said, my name is Peter Hernandez, the brown and proud taco-eating Republican.
I'm a locally elected county supervisor, a believer in Christ, and I'm running for Congressional District 8.
peter navarro
18. Yeah, that was Pete Hernandez.
He's running out in California in a newly formed congressional district that is basically designed to have a Latino or Latina win that district.
Yet, his primary opponent on the Democrat side, his only opponent in the general election, is a Democrat named Zoe Lofgren, who I unfortunately know well.
She being one of the leaders of the Lynch-Trump pack throughout the Trump administration.
She was very active in the two impeachment trials.
Lofgren's rhetoric is about as viciously anti-Donald Trump.
She's clearly kind of in the orange man bad crowd along with Jamie Raskin.
Adam Schiff, Benny Thompson, Nancy Pelosi.
And her main claim to fame is that she's been around for all impeachments in the modern era, including going back to Bill Clinton.
So Zoe Lofgren is a Democrat legacy candidate who It's not even running in the district that she represented for years.
She's she's they went during the redistricting that that district went away and she decided to go in and and pray on the good Latinos and Latinas of that district and try to use her status or seniority as a Democrat in that district to basically take that seat.
Especially crafted for Latinos.
Latinas take that for her own continuance of imperial power in the US Congress.
And Peter Nandis is taking her on.
He's got a big challenge on his hands.
There's no question about it, but let's think about What's going on now in Cali, my old Cali, right?
It's a situation where there's an absolute invasion across the southern border of this country in California, Arizona, and Texas, or where the brunt of that comes across.
And of those three states, I would argue that California There's the worst of it because Californians in government, the politicians there, the woke politicians there, do little or nothing to stem that flood.
And therefore the schools are overwhelmed, black and brown Americans are overwhelmed in the labor markets, see their wages suppressed, this, that, and the other thing.
And so it'll be interesting to see whether a MAGA Republican taking on a woke Democrat who's anti-Trump can win.
Now, let me ask my producer here.
Do we have Mr. Hernandez yet?
All right.
Well, let's without further ado, I hope you've been listening, Pete or Peter, you tell me which one you prefer, sir.
But tell us about Your race, where it stands, I looked at the election results and in the primary, I guess it's an open primary there because they lumped the results together.
Lofgren won the top spot, you got the second spot.
How's the race shaping out at this point, sir?
unidentified
Thank you for having me, Peter.
Thank you for that dialogue.
I mean, ultimately, this district is definitely very engaged at the local level, right?
Everything's very grassroots when it comes to the people.
I have 84 volunteers.
I have We've already hit 35,000 phone calls.
There's a lot of excitement.
The Latino voter is ready to flip.
I've said it before.
And it's just historically being able to tap into what is the sentiment of the Latino community.
The majority of the district itself, right, being rural, being ag.
So I would say it's the most underestimated race in the country because you have a brand new district, a 74-year-old you know, 28 year in office incumbent, right?
So she's, God bless her, but she's obviously almost twice my age.
And at the end of the day, people wanna see someone that's ready to represent from the bottom up.
Everything has been top down, which actually is consistent with what you've been sharing.
As a county supervisor, I experienced this firsthand, and that's what's created a lot of breakdown.
I argue for representation.
That's what the Latinos are hungry for.
They want to know that their conservative values are being considered in this process, and that they actually have a voice.
That, by default, means you have to have local control, and that's exactly what's being stripped from this district.
peter navarro
Sir, I'm going to ask you this throughout our interview, but at this point, can you tell the people listening how they can send money to your campaign and possibly volunteer?
unidentified
So yeah, if they could reach out to hernandezforcongress.com, that's exactly where you could donate.
We're obviously in all the social media handles, at peterhernandezforcongress on Facebook, at hernandezforcongress on Instagram, and hernandezca18 on Twitter.
peter navarro
All right, so tell me next.
Is Kevin McCarthy and the Republicans, the RNC, doing anything to help you?
And where does your endorsement, possible or real, from Trump stand at this point?
unidentified
I haven't heard from the president as far as Kevin McCarthy goes.
Yeah, he's paying attention to what I would imagine the RNC is thinking is the winnable races, right?
They do a math that I would say is very high level.
I think they're not doing the deep dive, and once they understand the intrinsics of what I just shared, right?
Every new portion of this district is Latino, rural, middle class, agricultural.
It's everything that Zolofton is not and I am.
So they're not getting into those details.
And because of that, Kevin McCarthy's counting votes across the country where he's making sure it's races that he can actually, I would say that he's trying to protect his seat.
So it's kind of disappointing for sure, because you would think that there would actually be a consideration of a guy like me who's ready to represent conservative Republican values, right, and really rebrand Republicanism as something that defines what we believe, right?
A Republican apologetic, we don't have that.
We don't get to the grassroots and talk to the people and tell them not just why we believe what we believe, but we try to bring them into the fold and educate them on what true representation looks like, and that's what I'm trying to do.
peter navarro
Have you ever had a conversation with Leader McCarthy?
Has he ever called you?
Have you ever called him?
unidentified
We've tried to reach out.
I actually met him a while back at a fundraiser.
He was rerunning for his race.
Very nice man.
Had a subtle engagement with him.
Very short.
That was it, right?
peter navarro
But pretty much blowing you off.
See, what puzzles me about this race is it's clearly been designed as a Latino-Latina district.
Clearly.
And everything else being equal, the person who wins in that should be a brown American.
No question about that.
And Lofgren is so far away from that.
She's the woke, progressive, kind of urban elite type, anti-Trump, anti-conservative values So, you kind of wonder what exactly is going on there.
How much of the district overlaps with her old district, Pete?
unidentified
So, the new district brings in everything from South San Jose all the way to Garoy, which is, that is the 19, the one that's about to expire.
You know, but if you think about the totality of the actual voting representation, everything south of Salinas is at least 50 percent.
I would say close to 51.
So I don't I basically I mean, obviously, I have to work hard in general, but winning over just a portion of the old 19 wins this race.
Right.
Obviously, that means that I have to win over the new portion.
And that's what I'm working hard to win the whole thing.
But the opportunity is there.
You know, there's a path to victory.
Not very many people are paying attention well enough to see it.
peter navarro
Have you had a chance to debate Lofgren?
I suspect you'll duck that.
What's the status of the debates?
unidentified
It's a funny thing because I actually just sent out a letter to her.
It got kicked back to her home.
We ended up sending it to her office in Washington, D.C., where we got a certified, basically, signature that they received it.
And that was probably three weeks ago.
We've officially just posted that it doesn't seem to mislead.
Loftman is ready to debate the issue.
She'd rather be in Washington, D.C.
instead of back in the district and actually talking to the locals that are dealing with high gas prices, right, inflation, that are dealing with, you know, now rolling blackouts because of this Green New Deal mindset from the Inflation Reduction Act that's going to take away nitrates from the farmers and ultimately destroy farms.
Everything that's going to hurt our district, she doesn't want to talk about.
peter navarro
How does the illegal immigration Issue play with Latinos inside your district.
When you go out and talk, the assumption of the Democrats has always been that everybody who's a Latino supports an open border.
What's your experience?
Is it 100% that way?
Is it 100 percent that way, 50-50?
unidentified
50-50?
peter navarro
When you talk to Latinos, what do you hear, sir?
unidentified
Once we get into the substance of the issue, they're 100 percent opposed to open borders.
They understand.
I mean, it's an oversimplified sentiment.
That's what I've shared before when it comes to the leftist progressive, this new deferring, deflecting and redefining of terms.
They try to simplify statements and make it seem like basically it's just that immigration is a simple issue when it's very complex.
There's a lot of layers to it.
But once we get down to open borders and the destructiveness, They agree, right?
I bring it down to a simple level.
The open borders policy is a vacuum.
It brings in a lot of destructiveness, right?
A lot of negative things, right?
With fentanyl crossing our border, with illegal immigration causing ultimately cartels to control that area, right?
And by default, that means human trafficking and sex trafficking, which is really modern, modern day slavery.
And so when I talk about the issue personally with, right, you know, voter to candidate, All I have to do is explain to them, you know, I don't know about anybody that actually believes that you would, if you really believe in open borders, that you would just, also the same, tear down your fence around your house, right?
That means you're allowing anybody to do whatever you want on your property, right?
And we, being a benevolent nation, we want to open the door for people to come in, but obviously that door means that they have to come through the front and knock on that door and ask for permission, right?
And everybody agrees with that.
To answer your question, Peter, everybody agrees that open borders is destructive.
They want a simpler process, a cleaner process, something that actually validates that the people coming in have good intentions, and ultimately they want to be part of the American fabric.
But also, one final comment is When they come in, they want to preserve the American way.
They want to preserve the blessings and the freedoms that come.
And as we start to get into these conversations, and I'm really encouraging them to understand, to not even believe what I say, but to actually test it against the truth when it comes to having been a sovereign nation They start to realize, yes, we are a good nation, and that's because of what was established long ago, right, with the Declaration and the Constitution.
And then, all of a sudden, they start to realize these policies that I'm espousing are actually a good thing, and they agree with them.
They're very supportive of them.
peter navarro
Pete, last question.
What's the chessboard look like in terms of the print media, the newspapers, and the TV stations around Both English and in Espanol.
Are they covering this race?
Are they giving you a fair shake?
unidentified
That's a really good question, Peter.
It's funny because, yeah, I would say everybody's trying to dodge this candidate right here.
I actually, you know, between the media, I actually was interviewed in the primary.
And they tried to pin me down with probably some hot-button items, and they didn't like my response, because I think I did a good job of responding, and they never posted my interviews.
And I kept reaching out to them, and they actually said, oh Peter, we're waiting for the other candidates to interview, so we can basically fairly allow everybody to speak.
I don't want, I firmly believe, not only are they dodging me, But they really don't want to put me side by side with Zoe Loughran because I don't think that they would like the outcome of that.
peter navarro
So this is why Stephen K. Bannon has the war room, Pete, to give folks exactly like you the opportunity to reach people in the district for votes, to reach people outside the districts for financial support.
The way I see it, Pete, is you're in a situation where The Democrats and the corporate media want to coronate Zoe Lofgren, ironically, in a district that's supposed to be represented by Latinos, and they're basically trying to ignore you into submission.
So, Pete, just one more time, give the viewers here in the posse the chance to send you some money.
And maybe donate some time if they're in the district, and then we'll let you go on your way.
I just so much admire what you're doing, sir.
unidentified
I appreciate it, sir.
Yeah, just one final comment.
So it's hernandezforcongress.com is the website.
I just want to reiterate this is a bootstrap campaign.
We built it from the ground up.
I'm a small business owner.
I know what it's like to have a vision and implement that vision.
And I'm very passionate, as you can tell.
So as I've engaged the district, You know, if people can't donate, they're volunteering.
If they can't volunteer, they're donating.
So there is definitely this grassroots movement.
If you want to take that very power structure that you don't like, the centralization of government, then it takes a candidate like me to take that power and hand it right back down to the people.
And I'm ready to do that.
So hernandezforcongress.com, at Peter Hernandez on Facebook, and I'm sorry, peterhernandezforcongress on Facebook, at hernandezforcongress on Instagram and Twitter.
Thank you.
peter navarro
All right, sir.
We wish you the best of luck.
I'm sure we'll try to get you back on the war room at least once before the election.
In the meantime, I want to say while you're here on the air, Kevin McCarthy, man up.
Talk to this man.
Give him some money.
Let him fight the good fight.
This is a district that can be won if the appropriate resources are deployed.
Zoe Lofgren, woman up.
Debate this man.
The people in His district have a right to hear from you about what you're actually going to do for the district as opposed to your national progressive woke agenda that has little to do with the good hardworking people of the state of California and everything to do with your own ideology.
So Pete, we will see you again in the war room.
You take care of yourself.
Hit the phones for money at the boots for.
Knocking on doors.
You know how this works.
And we wish you the best, sir.
unidentified
Will do.
Thank you, Peter.
God bless you.
peter navarro
All right, my brother.
You take care of yourself, man.
You're a patriot.
unidentified
Appreciate it.
So, look.
peter navarro
That's America right there.
That's a hard-working man who came in.
Family came in.
The kind of immigrants that we love.
And he's running up against a Republican establishment that won't help him out for all the wrong reasons and a Democrat establishment that really wants to lord and rule over that district.
It's just wrong.
So it's great to have Pete.
When we come back, we're going to shift gears fairly dramatically and talk with Dr. Robert Malone.
about the crisis we have in COVID-19.
Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon and we'll talk a little bit about why I'm here today and not Steve.
I'll be right back.
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peter navarro
Peter K. Navarro in for Stephen K. Bannon.
I'm not happy at all to be standing in front of this camera today.
Not because I don't love you, because I do.
Not because I don't love Lyndell TV, because I do.
It's because we have yet another situation where the government of this country has targeted Stephen K. Bannon.
And because of what he has to do today, because of that targeting, I'm in for Steve.
And look, let's make no mistake about it.
The forces of evil, and that's what they are, within the Democrat Party, within the Rhino part of the Republican Party that hates Trump, they're doing everything possible
To destroy not only Donald John Trump and prevent him from being president in 2025, people like me, who they put in leg irons, people like Steve Bannon, who they put in leg irons, have been collateral damage.
And this is nothing new, folks.
Nothing new.
I was only one of three senior White House officials who served with President Trump all the way from the campaign in 2016 to the end of what we love to call his first term.
I saw a weaponized FBI propagate a Russia hoax with the Democrats and try a preemptive coup before Trump even won.
That failed.
I saw the FBI take out Mike Flynn.
Put Papadopoulos in jail, put Manafort in jail, use frogmen to raid Roger Stone and have a successful preemptive coup.
No, this was an actual coup against Donald Trump.
When we learned that the FBI pressured social media and Facebook and Twitter from revealing the true information about the Biden crime family, On Hunter Biden's laptop.
And now, now, they want to do a preemptive coup of Donald Trump with their panty raid on Mar-a-Lago and the bogus criminal case.
And this cannot stop.
But they also want Stephen K. Bannon.
Stephen K. Bannon has built the single most influential and popular political podcast and show Yeah, I get mad about what they're doing to Steve and Mike Lindell.
Yeah, I get mad and frustrated, but we need to focus like a laser beam on the November elections and get Nancy Pelosi and her merry band of weaponized unconstitutionalists the hell out of there.
Out.
Out.
And then once they're out,
Come January, we need to find out just who and why the government of this country has become weaponized against the people of this country who only simply want MAGA principles, Make America Great Again, populist economic nationalism, end to endless wars, secure borders, yes, and bringing our manufacturing and supply chains home, like Mike Lindell has already done in his
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What I'm going to do now is move right to One of the great patriots of this country who has basically been the tip of the spear in common sense and science on a wide range of debates over how to handle COVID-19 and the pandemic.
I want to bring in Dr. Robert Malone.
I want to start with Dr. Malone by having him reflect on the recent op-ed that Dr. Stephen Hatfield and I did on this absurd charge about me as a White House official pressuring Stephen Hahn and the FDA to do what the science told him he should have done, which was to allow the prescription of hydroxychloroquine in early treatment outpatient use.
And in that op-ed article, and thank you, Kelly Sadler at The Washington Times, you are a patriot, ma'am, as well,
In that article, we show how the most recent science on hydroxychloroquine says it's not only safe, but it could have saved anywhere from 570,000 to 810,000 Americans of the million who died if simply the FDA had allowed early treatment use on an outpatient basis like Trump and I advocated
at the time, and Doc Malone will tell you how it was not just Han, it was Janet Woodcock, his successor, and a shadowy character named Rick Bright.
So without further ado, Doc Malone, the microphone and camera is now yours, sir.
What say ye?
dr robert malone
Yeah, Peter, I want to congratulate you in particular for your leadership all the way through this and your willingness to stick your neck out and speak truth.
Um, the Greeks had a word for this.
They call it truth speech.
And you have truly been a prophet and a speaker of truth speech all the way through this.
And you'll recall in our early op-eds, we said that the government should be focusing their efforts on the high risk people because most people weren't at great risk.
That if they kept with these crazy policies, they would be driving the development of Viral escape mutants, viruses that would escape the vaccines.
We spoke about the usefulness of having home test kits so that people could monitor their own status and make their own decisions.
And you have been right about things all the way through.
And I can speak from the first person.
Having been there at the front lines, dealing with Northwell and the early days of Governor Cuomo and how he responded to hydroxychloroquine.
And also this study that you're talking about, this estimate of excess mortality, because that's what it is, avoidable death.
Those numbers that you've come up with somehow are precisely The numbers that I am aware of, of another very large comprehensive independent study that was done by a leading, uh, let's say children's health advocacy organization independently.
Same numbers.
Okay.
So I think that that's probably a reasonable estimate that we have lost a half a million to something like three quarters of a million excess deaths in our elders.
In the people that had significant disease, the people that were parked into these elder homes, the people that were jammed through these hospitals and not allowed to visit anybody, this huge human tragedy could have been avoided.
And I can also speak for my colleagues in the International Alliance of Physicians and Medical Scientists, 17,000 docs from all over the world, All, just about all of them have found that hydroxy was useful in managing this disease.
So are a number of other drugs.
It turns out that there are many things that work.
And I've actually met with the people back in Marseille that originated the azithromycin hydroxychloroquine protocol.
And of course they got railroaded also in France.
In the case of hydroxy, in particular when we were having the Delta surge, the observation by many frontline docs was that hydroxy was working better than ivermectin for Delta, and it's still widely used.
It's cheap.
You had stockpiled it.
You personally, Peter Navarro, I recall when I was working for Alchem Pharmaceuticals in Florida, And we got a call from you and your office seeking vendors that could provide hydroxychloroquine.
This is very early in the outbreak.
I can attest in the first person of your diligence in trying to solve the supply chain problems and protect the health of humans in North America.
You were out, talk about at the tip of the spear.
You were doing everything you could.
I remember thinking, what the heck is an economist?
I had a million tabs, Doc.
about drugs, but you were, you were just.
peter navarro
I had a secret weapon, Doc.
I had a secret weapon.
I had a Doc Hatfield working with me.
So we got it in, I'll let you keep talking, but let me just point out.
I had a million tabs, Doc.
I had a million tabs of these things and I actually got them distributed to hospitals and pharmacies and they were ready to get deployed.
And then the FDA came in with what was a death blow ruling on that and it just stopped it in its tracks.
But continue, sir.
dr robert malone
Yes.
Let's get into that story because there's another key name here that we need to acknowledge posthumously.
And that's Zev Zelenko.
And I remember because we were focused in my team that was working close contact with DITRA, Defense Threat Reduction Agency.
under a variety of different contract vehicles, and we still are advancing Fomodidine, Celecoxib, and we tried to advance Fomodidine, Celecoxib, and Ivermectin, but the FDA blocked us.
And this is the DOD, okay?
But I remember in those early days that this guy on Long Island that I'd never heard of before, this physician, Zeb Zelenko, was talking about the Uh, French protocol of azithromycin and hydroxy and also zinc.
And he was getting these amazing results.
And he, before he passed away, unfortunately, just a couple of months ago, uh, he had compiled a fascinating video that you can find in which he documents what happened and the collusion between Janet Woodcock.
And Rick Bright in blocking the availability of hydroxychloroquine for outpatient use.
And I remember when that happened, we were trying to advance the clinical trials for Fomodidine at Northwell.
And we were having to design the trials so that we would include a hydroxychloroquine arm.
Uh, and then, uh, the governor of New York made these arbitrary unilateral decisions that it could only be used on inpatients, only used in the hospital.
This was all coming from Woodcock and Rick Bright.
Rick Bright at the time was the director of BARDA.
Okay.
And, uh, I gotta tell you, I mean, I was right there at the front lines of all this.
And I got this call from Michael Callahan, the infamous CIA officer that I've spoken about in the past, that called me from Wuhan and who reported to Bob Kadlec.
And he said, Robert, we've got a problem.
Rick Bright is a problem.
He's an obstacle to everything.
All he wants is the vaccines.
What do you think we ought to do about him?
And I said, why don't you promote him to be in charge of diagnostics?
Uh, and then you could move him out of bars, get rid of the obstacle.
And in fact, that's what they did.
That's why Rick was moved over to the diagnostic space, which he had prior experience in, but he refused to serve.
As you'll recall, he called up the LA times and kicked up a big fuss.
And then there was the whole, uh, scandal.
And the cascade of things, and we learned about the doctored hydroxychloroquine trial that was designed to fail and was actually not even built off of real data, and the scandal in the Lancet, and it just went on and on and on.
But it's an amazing story, and you, my friend, were right at the forefront, doing the right thing.
One that wrote the letter to President Trump, Advocating for hydroxy in the first place.
It's an amazing story.
peter navarro
Yeah, and the other detail, and details are important about this story, the trajectory went like this, Doc.
It's like, President Trump gives a speech, and in the speech he promises that the FDA will allow widespread access of the American public Two of hydroxychloroquine, right?
And then, as all hell is breaking loose in the hydroxy hysteria CNN media, Alex Azar, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, and his deputy, Bob Kadlec, command, command the FDA to write the emergency use authorization Specifying early treatment for outpatient use.
And Han, as the Commissioner, allows Janet Woodcock, who would eventually take his spot, and Rick Bright to not only counterman that order directly, they did exactly the wrong thing, Doc.
The whole thing that Hatfield and I talked about in the Washington Times is that you give it in the first seven days, it works.
You wait, it doesn't.
It's blood on their hands.
dr robert malone
Sir, back to you.
Rick Bright and Janet Woodcock intentionally circumvented the direction of the President of the United States.
Whatever you think about Donald Trump, whatever you think about hydroxychloroquine, if you want a case study in the administrative state It's absolutely as you say.
the executive branch and not the other way around. The administrative state that's so arrogant that they believe that they can go against the directions of a sitting president of the United States, this is a great case study. It's absolutely, as you say, the president clearly explicitly directed that this be made available.
The experience of physicians all over the world, not the least of which are the Africans that chronically take this stuff and have almost no COVID, is that this is an effective medicine.
And there was incredible amount of manipulation of data and studies in order to shut this down and to circumvent the will of the president.
No matter where you are on the spectrum, what you think about this, That is absolutely wrong.
And Janet Woodcock is tight as a tick with the pharmaceutical industry, as well as with UCSF, which is basically a pharma shop.
And Rick Bright bailed out after his whistleblower, and guess where he went to work?
Do you know, Peter?
peter navarro
I don't.
I'm standing up.
I wish I was sitting down when you tell me.
Pfizer?
dr robert malone
I've known Rick for decades.
I've watched his career.
I know all about him.
Okay, there we go.
Globalism primed here.
up, kick down.
And what he did, he got out of the government, is he took a nice juicy job with the Rockefeller Institute.
peter navarro
Okay, there we go.
Globalism primed here.
I mean, look, it is blood on their hands.
There's no question about it.
Now, last thing on this, because we've only got about a minute left, I want to get your social media in.
It's like, contrast hydroxychloroquine.
You take it for 7 days, it's 12 bucks.
Right?
Safe for virtually everyone.
dr robert malone
Proven safe.
peter navarro
Effective.
Right?
dr robert malone
In no impact way.
peter navarro
Paxilavid.
Paxilavid, Doc.
But the thing, and Peter, you know this, I did a ton of work together with the nation's biodefense capital, USAMRID, on drug discovery for Zika.
I talk about these studies with respect to influence.
dr robert malone
But the thing, and Peter, you know this, I did a ton of work together with the nation's biodefense capital, USAMRIID, on drug discovery for Zika.
I did a bunch of this with Michael Callahan, published it.
And one of our leading agents for Zika was, guess what?
Hydroxychloroquine.
Why?
Because you can administer it during pregnancy.
peter navarro
Yes.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Doc, I wish we had like another half hour here, but why don't we do this?
Give everybody your social media and how to get to you, and then I'm gonna have to say adieu to you as we close out this show, sir.
dr robert malone
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peter navarro
All right, my brother, we are out.
Getter is the Twitter killer.
Keep doing what you're doing, Doc.
I'm sure we'll see you back soon here in this space.
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