Aug. 30, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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...reporting on the specific signs Republicans hope for a red wave are receding ahead of the 2022 elections. | |
| What are those signs? | ||
| Mika, it's been such a stark shift from last fall and earlier this year. | ||
| Remember after that Virginia election, Republicans stormed a victory in the governor's race with Glenn Youngkin. | ||
| They nearly won a stunner of a victory in New Jersey. | ||
| They were so optimistic and bullish about a red wave. | ||
| But now you have to squint very hard to see any signs of a red wave, as you all have been talking about on this panel. | ||
| And the signs are everywhere. | ||
| The most recent one was that Special election in Hudson Valley just north of New York City. | ||
| That has been a bellwether district that has tracked the national mood for years. | ||
| Democrats should have no business even competing there if it was anything resembling a red wave climate. | ||
| Yet the Democrat Pat Ryan won against a Republican Mark Molinaro by a larger margin than President Biden won in 2020. | ||
| That suggests something is going on there. | ||
| Our poll shows that persuadable voters are trending toward Democrats. | ||
| They were in favor of Republicans by six points earlier this year. | ||
| Now they're in favor of Democrats by three points, which is so unusual in an election year for the party in power. | ||
| We see the Republican enthusiasm gap shrinking in our poll as well, 17 points earlier this year to just two points now. | ||
| McConnell, as you guys have been mentioning, downplaying his expectations in the Senate. | ||
| He had that moment of candor, talking about candidate quality. | ||
| McConnell has these frank moments occasionally. | ||
| He has a tendency to walk them back. | ||
| He has to remain optimistic about Pennsylvania and Georgia. | ||
| He's not becoming majority leader if Republicans lose those seats. | ||
| Beyond that, you know, there's Republicans, the fact that Republicans have to spend even a penny in Ohio, as Joe was just mentioning, that state voted Republican by 12.5 points more than the country as a whole did. | ||
| That should be a wide open layup. | ||
| this year, in a year like this, yet Republicans may be fumbling the ball there. | ||
| They have to go in and prop up J.D. Vance rather than seeing him close to a victory. | ||
| Now, what are the causes of this? | ||
| Everyone is looking at the Supreme Court abortion decision. | ||
| That's been huge. | ||
| That has galvanized Democratic voters. | ||
| That has woken up a number of abortion rights supporters who had taken this for granted maybe over years, maybe over decades. | ||
| I think declining gas prices have a lot to do with it. | ||
| That was a reason that President Biden's approval went down in the first place. | ||
| And of course, the reemergence of Trump reminds independent voters who are very alienated by him that he's still out there, that he's still reasserting his dominance over the Republican Party, that he still controls this party to a large degree. | ||
| And it is making it harder for Republicans like McConnell to make this a referendum on President Biden. | ||
| It is actually playing into Democrats' hands in a sense of making this a choice between Democrats, the party in power now, and what they call the MAGA Republicans, the Trump Republicans. | ||
| And I'll just add it up. | ||
| You know, Republicans at this point should not feel too pessimistic. | ||
| They still have a lot of opportunities given these slender margins to take control of Congress. | ||
| But you can certainly see, you know, a road where they end up losing the possibility of capturing the Senate and keeping it very close, if not even losing the House. | ||
| Kristina Greer, some of these candidates that seem so far right, so fringe, so big lie, so driven still by Trump, will win. | ||
| What are the risks and the opportunities, but most importantly the risks for Democrats moving forward toward the midterms? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I'm incredibly worried that some of these candidates could win in November, because obviously it sets us up for a very dangerous moment moving into 2024. | ||
| We've got secretaries of state, we've got different gubernatorial candidates who believe in the big lie, who want to essentially do what Lindsey Graham is doing, which is speak to an audience of one, which is Donald Trump, because he comes with millions of quasi-rabid followers who will essentially do whatever he instructs them to do. | ||
| And so I think it's really important for the Democrats to Galvanize their base. | ||
| I mean, I think it was said, you know, a lot of Republicans, especially in the base, are looking backwards. | ||
| It's imperative that the Senate candidates and gubernatorial candidates and Joe Biden really contextualize why it is that we have to look forward. | ||
| What is at stake? | ||
| It's not just about inflation and economics and gas prices. | ||
| It is about the soul of our democracy. | ||
| I know, you know, my students get tired of hearing this, that every election is the most important election. | ||
| But in this instance, it absolutely is. | ||
| If we don't get 2022 correct, we don't get 2024 correct. | ||
| Because, as Kevin McCarthy and the Lindsey Grants have already said, if Republicans gain control of one or two parties' houses in Congress, you know, immediately impeachment proceedings start. | ||
| Who are we impeaching and why? | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| They've just said we're going to start impeachment proceedings. | ||
| It'll be lots of Hunter Biden. | ||
| It'll be lots of emails and laptops. | ||
| It'll be Hillary Clinton all over again. | ||
| It'll be Barack Hussein Obama. | ||
| We've seen this time and time again. | ||
| And so we're seeing it even more. | ||
| And so it's really important that if we want to actually move forward on policy, we need to make sure that some of these extremist candidates who have won their primaries are not elected in November of 2022, but definitely not in November of 2024. | ||
| Okay, welcome to the War Room. | ||
| It's Tuesday, 30 August, the year of our Lord, 2022. | ||
| And there is an all-out assault on the Red Tsunami, the 100 seats for 100 years. | ||
| They're absolutely, totally panicked. | ||
| And trust me, the reason they're panicked is because they saw the sweeping school board victories. | ||
| It's not some swing district that McCarthy and these guys kept Trump out of and said, don't come, don't get involved. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| It's they saw the sweeping victories in the school board elections. | ||
| in Florida and they're in total panic mode. | ||
| So now every day you're just getting the op researcher and get the psyops, all of it. | ||
| We got to separate out the signal from the noise. | ||
| The professor there, I think she's from Fordham. | ||
| She's absolutely correct in saying that if when we take one of two houses, or particularly the house, which we're going to take, they will start the investigations into the Southern border, the invasion of the Southern border, Hunter's laptop, all of it to bring about impeachment of proceedings on Joe Biden. | ||
| That's going to happen. | ||
| Of course, Joe Biden's going to go in front of the nation on Thursday night and trash talk MAGA. | ||
| He's all cool with They're all cool with Republicans. | ||
| What they're not cool with is MAGA, right? | ||
| He's okay with controlled opposition, but he's not okay with MAGA. | ||
| We got a lot to get to, so what I decided to do was to ask and bring in a man of incredible wisdom, Rudy the Great Giuliani, the greatest mayor in the history of New York. | ||
| Rudy the Great. | ||
| Now, Rudy, so first off, You know, and Ron Brownstein from the Los Angeles Times, they also put his stuff up at CNN. | ||
| He wrote a piece, and I want Denver, if Denver can please put it up sometime on the screen where Rudy and I chat, because there's a couple of pieces up, but I think his is the most profound. | ||
| He said, look, instead of the Republicans are running on what Steve Cortez said, inflation, immigration, right, the economy, and crime, And they don't make they don't mention wokeness because they don't want to talk about that. | ||
| But that that's our set of issues. | ||
| And he says the Democrats have to run and what they have to do. | ||
| And it was reinforced by the professor from Fordham that said we have to run on climate change. | ||
| I don't think anyone better than you and I understand that, Steve. | ||
| We lived it, right? | ||
| can't win unless they steal elections. | ||
| I understand that gets under the skin, but that's reality. | ||
| So when we win these secretaries of state. | ||
| I don't think anyone better than you and I understand that. | ||
| We lived it, right? | ||
| You and I lived that in the foxhole for quite some time. | ||
| And we still are. | ||
| Evidence of it. | ||
| By the way, we're still in a couple of foxholes in regards to that. | ||
| And we're never giving up. | ||
| Hold it. | ||
| Now that you bring it up for the FBI or anything like that, Trump put out on True Social And MSNBC's got up there right now a piece about how many Republicans agree. | ||
| Trump put up last night that, hey, because of the Hunter situation, because the FBI guy either getting fired or quitting, because of Facebook saying the FBI told him not to do it, that he wants, you know, that he won and he wants another election immediately. | ||
| I keep saying the Biden or the Biden electors can't get certified. | ||
| They're not going to be Trump election. | ||
| We don't even know the national election. | ||
| It's called a, and I keep trying to get this into people's minds. | ||
| It's a contingent election. | ||
| It gets kicked. | ||
| You're not going to flip the Biden electors to Trump electors. | ||
| You're going to not be able to certify the Biden electors. | ||
| And by not certifying the Biden electors, the electoral count act of 1887 and our beloved constitution. | ||
| Have a have a have a way that what's supposed to happen. | ||
| That is a contingent election, the House of Representatives, where you vote by state party delegation. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| Even with Liz Cheney voting Wyoming for the Democrats, I think we still win 26-24. | ||
| So, yes, we we heartily believe what President Trump said because we don't think we know that the Biden electors can't be certified in Arizona or Georgia or the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania or Michigan or Wisconsin, those five states. | ||
| That gets us below 270. | ||
| That means you gotta have a contingent election. | ||
| So let's do it. | ||
| Let's start the contingent election this week. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| That's what we should do. | ||
| And MSNBC, suck on that. | ||
| No, it's not another national general election. | ||
| And it's not flipping those electors to Trump. | ||
| There should be another election. | ||
| And it's set up, what did they understand? | ||
| By the way, Jamie Raskin knows this. | ||
| He goes on TV all the time. | ||
| In fact, he corrected me. | ||
| He says, Bannon's wrong. | ||
| It's not 27-23. | ||
| Liz Cheney would vote. | ||
| She's the one delegate from Wyoming. | ||
| And by the way, I give it to Jamie Raskin. | ||
| You're right on that one. | ||
| I give that one to you. | ||
| So we win, what, 26-24. | ||
| But that's the election we should have. | ||
| Rudy, get us up to date on the PSYOPs. | ||
| You've been through this enough times where they're trying to suppress our vote now. | ||
| By getting everybody terribly depressed, and they're saying the more you talk about Trump, the worse it's going to get. | ||
| Rudy the Great. | ||
| Well, the sign-offs of the Democrat Party are amateurish, and we should have figured them out almost from day one. | ||
| Now it's projection. | ||
| They try to take the heat off the things they did wrong, unethical crimes, who knows what else, and they charge us with it. | ||
| Right now, we're the half fascists. | ||
| We're the semi-fascists. | ||
| So first of all, what's a semi-fascist? | ||
| You're either a fascist or you're not. | ||
| And they're the ones who are acting like fascists. | ||
| So they put it on us. | ||
| They're not acting like fascists. | ||
| They are fascists. | ||
| They like big tech oligarchs. | ||
| They like big media oligarchs. | ||
| They like concentration of state. | ||
| They like concentration of state capitalism and total authoritarian rule. | ||
| They are truly fascists. | ||
| They have taken the Mussolini and Hitler model and perfected it, right? | ||
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100%! | |
| And they're doing it day in and day out. | ||
| The raid on Mar-a-Lago is a general warrant It would fit the definition of George III's writ of attainment. | ||
| I don't want to get terribly historic or technical, but it's about as close to a writ of attainment as we've had since the 18th century. | ||
| It gives itself away by providing 18 days in order to execute it. | ||
| Therefore, it says on the face of it, this is nothing important. | ||
| You don't take 18 days to go get nuclear material or a gun. | ||
| The FBI took an entire weekend to get around to doing it. | ||
| Headline, affidavit, warrant, not so important. | ||
| It completely blows what they were doing there. | ||
| And the reality is they're getting desperate. | ||
| This whole idea of paying so much attention to us, not just you and me, but the whole thing, everything on CNN and MSNBC, they're afraid as hell. | ||
| They know Beyond this poll and that poll, the essential movement of the American people, when it's been engaged, is to resist being dominated. | ||
| Look how that lady you interviewed went right back to the pandemic. | ||
| She saw the connection that you and I have been making for two years. | ||
| She got it. | ||
| This is what they were doing all through the pandemic, acting like a fascist dictator. | ||
| Now they're taking it big time. | ||
| He passes one of the most significant financial actions in American history, this forgiving of the loan. | ||
| It's an amount of money never forgiven. | ||
| He has no legal authority to do it. | ||
| And he does it by dictate. | ||
| Only dictators dictate. | ||
| It should be done by vote. | ||
| Every childhood student of history and civics knows the power of the purse belongs with the legislature. | ||
| He's robbed it, and think about this, from his own legislature. | ||
| Imagine what he'd do to a Republican legislature. | ||
| He's afraid of letting them vote on this really, you know, take from some people, give to other people, which is inherently unfair, immoral, illegal, and by the way, about as clear an indication that he's become, in effect, a communist. | ||
| Take from some, give to the other. | ||
| And he decides. | ||
| They're trying to get us not to talk about Trump. | ||
| They're saying that any discussion about Trump, that this shifts the center of gravity away from, like, people can't keep two things in their brain at the same time. | ||
| Do you believe that? | ||
| Do you believe the discussion of Mar-a-Lago and what this police state, the Gestapo move by the FBI? | ||
| Do I believe it's a Gestapo move by the FBI? | ||
| One hundred percent. | ||
| From things that people who haven't been federal prosecutors wouldn't even look at or realize, like the 11 day delay that. | ||
| I mean, I've been before many magistrates and federal judges on warrants for real crime, serious crime, people going to die in a couple of days. | ||
| They don't put down three days, four days, two days, like they put down, here's the word forthwith. | ||
| That means get your backside out of there and get there and save those people's lives. | ||
| You don't you don't break into a president's home, unless there's no other way to do it. | ||
| They don't demonstrate it in the affidavit. | ||
| There's no other way to do it. | ||
| And then this general warrant thing. | ||
| Nine hours? | ||
| Hang on a second. | ||
| We're going to take a short break. | ||
| We're going to come back with Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| You're absolutely correct. | ||
| This is what the British and George, this is what we fought a revolution over, right? | ||
| So the British couldn't come in and kick down your door like the FBI does. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Rudy the Great after the break. | ||
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| Rudy, I got a bunch of stuff to go through, and I got Miranda Devine gonna follow us, but I know you're jammed for time. | ||
| Lindsey Graham said the other day, you know, hey, if Trump gets indicted, They're going to be riots. | ||
| That hurts our case, and here's the reason. | ||
| Correct me if I'm wrong. | ||
| You're the most revered prosecutor in the history of New York. | ||
| You put the mob away. | ||
| You see the movie The Godfather, everybody? | ||
| Rudy Giuliani, guys around the table, the five families. | ||
| You see the five families? | ||
| Rudy put them all in prison. | ||
| Right, he brought up the five families. You see, you're checking her, you're checking her Italian bona fides. No, this is Sicilian. How Sicilian is she? | ||
| Watch the knives. Watch the knives. Okay. | ||
| Rudy, we, correct me if I'm wrong, don't we have the law on our side so overwhelmingly in this fiasco, this farce, this, this presidential records spat, that's what it is, it's a spat that why is Lindsey Graham in these, in these, these wimpy Republicans? We don't need rights, we have two-thirds of the nation. The, the, We have momentum, we have the policies, we got the issues. | ||
| Biden's going up tomorrow to call half the nation, 62 thirds of the nation, fascist! | ||
| Bring it, Joe! | ||
| Let's go! | ||
| Let's roll! | ||
| Why are these nerdy Republicans talking about there going to be riots, Rudy Giuliani? | ||
| I'll tell you, here's the difference between us and them, and some of it has to do because they're led by evil people who have no morals. | ||
| We have people who question things. | ||
| You know, we take a little time for things like, is this right? | ||
| Is this wrong? | ||
| And in that period of time, they take advantage of it. | ||
| So ultimately, we're not as united. | ||
| So if this had happened to them, right, if Trump had said they're semi-fashion, every Democrat would have said the same thing the next morning. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| From Scarborough and whatever her name is, who can't remember things. | ||
| And then everybody else. | ||
| Hang on, whoa, whoa, Rudy. | ||
| Rudy, come on. | ||
| That's my, come on. | ||
| Mika. | ||
| It's Morning Mika. | ||
| Don't be sliding. | ||
| Don't be sliding. | ||
| No, she's brilliant. | ||
| She carries the show. | ||
| It's Morning Mika. | ||
| It's Morning Mika. | ||
| I digress. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| The point is the same line, right? | ||
| Quid pro quo. | ||
| No quid pro quo. | ||
| Sell out to Ukraine. | ||
| Every one of them says it from the first guy in the morning to the last guy at night. | ||
| Sounds amateurish. | ||
| Sounds like you should almost see through it. | ||
| And by the end of the day, they got their people on one page. | ||
| And that page adds up to 40 percent, sometimes 38. | ||
| It could occasionally go over 50. | ||
| You could go down to 37. | ||
| We come out with five different versions of, you know, Lindsey is thinking about it and reading about it. | ||
| Then we get, you know, from the way out, we get the people who were the Cheneys and the Kissingers who are still seen as Republicans. | ||
| We get the thoughtful people and then we get a couple of the real fighters like Jordan, right? | ||
| I mean, he's there right in the center, just like you and I would be. | ||
| He's got the best instincts, I think, of all of them. | ||
| But we're diffuse. | ||
| And in a war, I mean, that's like they're attacking our main line, and we're saying, oh, maybe they're not really. | ||
| Let's go around over here. | ||
| Let's go over here. | ||
| Let's go over here. | ||
| I'd rather go here. | ||
| We've got to unite this party. | ||
| And that's why Trump, being the voice, is so important. | ||
| And that's why they want him out. | ||
| The minute Trump says something, they might as well not have said anything. | ||
| He becomes the voice for our movement. | ||
| If he says, This guy is putting out phony information. | ||
| Everybody forgets their little friends and they go right to Trump and they say, okay, what's the phony information? | ||
| And that's why they are so afraid of Trump. | ||
| He is, without any doubt, the most charismatic American politician ever and the one who dominates the news by far more than anyone else. | ||
| That's what they're trying to take about. | ||
| But hang on, but you're bringing up signal, not noise. | ||
| I got to get to this. | ||
| The reason, and the audience used to hate it, but now I think they kind of understand what we're doing. | ||
| The reason we show so much MSNBC, Rudy's absolutely correct. | ||
| It's called Wash, Rinse, Repeat. | ||
| If you cut it on at five in the morning, All the way through. | ||
| In fact, my young producers, even this morning, were saying the discipline of MSNBC and these guys is shocking. | ||
| You start at five o'clock in the morning and it's kind of like Ailes used to run Fox, just saying. | ||
| You go all the way through the day and it's the same message over and over. | ||
| Got different people coming on And maybe they pull some different data, but it's over and over and over and over again. | ||
| It's pure propaganda, but they know how to do it. | ||
| And that's what's so powerful. | ||
| And we're very diffused, but the point is, this is still a referendum on them. | ||
| And the American people understand that. | ||
| We have to be monotonically focused on that. | ||
| Certainly, and I'm a big advocate of Trump announcing now. | ||
| I'm a big advocate of, obviously, everything you said. | ||
| He's the charismatic leader of our movement. | ||
| He must be defended. | ||
| And not just that, it shows you what lengths, Rudy, they will go to to kneecap him and take him out. | ||
| This is, what, the eighth time we've had to deal with this madness? | ||
| But it is still a referendum, and that's what tomorrow they're going to try to change the subject. | ||
| It's all about anti-democracy. | ||
| And here's the point. | ||
| If you want to run on climate change and abortion and democracy, run on that, baby. | ||
| We'll take immigration, inflation, crime, wokeness to the Hispanic community and the African-American community. | ||
| We'll take on the economy. | ||
| You give us that, we'll take those issues. | ||
| You have your issues. | ||
| We'll see you on the evening of November 8th. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| Well, you're absolutely right, Steve. | ||
| I mean, that is the formula that I could almost assure you We'll get us the House, the Senate, and probably big surprises in local areas. | ||
| The other thing we've done that you noted earlier, and this they don't really have a handle on, we're creeping up from the swamps. | ||
| By the swamps, I mean the parent, the school. | ||
| For the first time, a lot of our people have understood this is local government, and local government's got a lot to do with this, and they've taken over and infiltrated our schools by understanding it better than us. | ||
| But I noticed when my son first got involved running for governor, first thing he did is make an alliance with the parents. | ||
| And it was one of the smartest things he did. | ||
| He did about 20. | ||
| He did about 20 parents races. | ||
| They have become now, if he wants to stay in politics, they'll be his supporters for 50 years. | ||
| But that's where it starts. | ||
| You've got to get you got to get the people who took for granted that this country was being run right. | ||
| And just honestly, just, you know, teachers, the teachers know what to do. | ||
| They got to get in there and find out the teachers are a captive of a communist union. | ||
| The bureaucrats know what to do. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| They also are captives of what are left-leaning, that's the nicest thing I can say about them, public unions, all of whom have an allegiance to a form of government that's different than ours and that will destroy it. | ||
| We are getting involved now at the local level. | ||
| They don't even know it! | ||
| They're not contesting us! | ||
| that we're feeding the hell out of it this why i said at the beginning the thing that shocked me on that was in florida the monster liberty others this week of the school boards of flipping like miami-dade really before i leave you i got it i got to bring this up bill bar uh... i think was very wise it was a great interview we've got it up and you gotta watch it uh... i think i got up on my getter account bill barr was there and he was this that i tell you what he is so terrible at every level This guy is controlled opposition. | ||
| His biggest beef in this entire interview is that the far right of the Republican Party just continues to get people worked up. | ||
| This populist movement continues to get people worked up. | ||
| on what's wrong in the country, and what we should do is just have a group hug, right? | ||
| Just have a group hug and talk about sunlit uplands, and it's all going to be correct. | ||
| You've gone through a lot of cycles, Rudy, and a lot of turbulence, and you've delivered sunlit uplands to people through hard work. | ||
| Is Bill Barr correct? | ||
| Should we just back off and just go have a group hug with the establishment Republicans, and more importantly, the far left, sir? | ||
| Yeah, well, then we would be like General Conn Wallace at Appomattox. | ||
| We would have given away We would have given away our country. | ||
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More even than that, we would have given away our life. | |
| Hold it, hold it. | ||
| You went Rudy on me. | ||
| General Cornwallis at Appomattox. | ||
| This is your Zen master. | ||
| This is Rudy's Zen master. | ||
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What do you mean, General Cornwallis at Appomattox? | |
| What's the sound of one hand clapping? | ||
| What? | ||
| We would have given up the fight. | ||
| That's the end. | ||
| Cornwallis was Yorktown, Lee was Appomattox, so pick a surrender and pick a general. | ||
| Did I say Appomattox? | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I made a mistake. | ||
| But basically it was a capitulation, and that's exactly what they want, and it's exactly what they have on the part of some of our people. | ||
| The reality is there's no reason for that. | ||
| They're trying to convince us that we don't have the resources to win. | ||
| We're winning. | ||
| The mere fact that all they do is talk about us every morning on radio and television, they have nothing else to talk about, tells us that they're deathly afraid of us. | ||
| What do I do when I'm being attacked and it doesn't work? | ||
| What do you do when you run a campaign and your guy's being attacked and it doesn't work? | ||
| Ignore it. | ||
| Ignore it. | ||
| Don't take the bait. | ||
| Don't take the bait. | ||
| When you're getting the hell kicked out of you, that's all you talk about. | ||
| Well, they're getting the hell kicked out of them. | ||
| They are. | ||
| And if we could be a little more united, this could be a nice, clean victory. | ||
| And if Giuliani could remember, That it was... Cornwallis was a revolution. | ||
| Maria. | ||
| Maria, where are you? | ||
| Help me, baby. | ||
| Help me, baby. | ||
| Real quickly. | ||
| What's the podcast? | ||
| Give me the podcast. | ||
| How do people get to the podcast? | ||
| They go to Rudy Common Sense. | ||
| The Rudy Giuliani CS dot com. | ||
| Rudy Giuliani CS dot com. | ||
| Rudy the Great at Yorktown. | ||
| I got you on. | ||
| I got the great Steve Bannon on, it's doing great, and I also have the movie on. | ||
| It's coming out on September 7th, Hunter Biden, My Son. | ||
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| It is fabulous, done by Davey. | ||
| It is fabulous. | ||
| We gotta bounce. | ||
| Thank you, Rudy. | ||
| And Jonathan O'Neill, add to that. | ||
| Man, I forgot. | ||
| Did it fund the FBI calls? | ||
| Republican members of Congress calling the premier law enforcement agency in America the Gestapo. | ||
| Calling them communists. | ||
| Calling them, you know, thugs. | ||
| Talking about defunding the FBI. | ||
| Calling them the enemy. | ||
| Newt Gingrich, who's not an elected Republican, but certainly a former Republican speaker, calling FBI proud men and women who protect our country. | ||
| Protect them from drug cartels, protect them from Al-Qaeda attacks, from ISIS attacks, from human trafficking. | ||
| These people who work every day to keep us safe in this country. | ||
| Former Republican Speaker of the House calls them wolves, saying they want to devour Americans. | ||
| Considering them the enemy... Woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah, woah. | ||
| Because I've only got so much time. | ||
| Look at this punch list. | ||
| The premier law enforcement entity in America. | ||
| And look at what he names. | ||
| Drug cartels? | ||
| Are you kidding? | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| Give me a break, and I can say that from being inside the administration and having the thing. | ||
| Drug cartels? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| No checkmark. | ||
| Human trafficking? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| And I'm not talking about making some announcement. | ||
| Oh, we got 50 people on some child porn site. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| Human trafficking? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| Have you seen the invasion of the southern border? | ||
| You see the cartels run the Rio Grande Valley. | ||
| They run northern Mexico and they run the southern border of the United States. | ||
| Trust me. | ||
| When you talk Al-Qaeda and look the New York the NYPD intelligence unit is the one that stopped the 14 attacks what under Ray Kelly and and and the other commissioner right well under Bloomberg and and really stop it was the NYPD intelligent one the FBI they didn't want the FBI in the room. | ||
| And by the way, great job on 9-11. | ||
| Chinese Communist Party infiltration? | ||
| Show me anywhere! | ||
| Show me anywhere with facts, Morning Mika, where the FBI, don't give me your nonsense, the premier law enforcement, yes, they're a bunch of wolves and they should be defunded immediately, hearings later. | ||
| And today they're all quitting. | ||
| All the whistleblowers, they should know, whistleblowers are coming out of the woodwork. | ||
| We've asked the great reported columnist for the New York Post, who is really the hero in this story, to actually get this thing published, The Laptop from Hell, and the author of the great book, to come in and give her assessment of Morning Joe and her assessment of the FBI in developments over the last 24 to 48 hours, the great Miranda Devine. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us. | ||
| Miranda, your assessment of Morning Joe. | ||
| I had to cut it off. | ||
| There was another minute and a half I couldn't take anymore. | ||
| Your assessment of morning, Jo, and where do we stand with this FBI development, ma'am? | ||
| Well, it's interesting that we now have journalists and media operators who are actually defending abuse of power. | ||
| That's the opposite of what journalism is supposed to be. | ||
| It's about uncovering abuse of power, exposing it, not defending it and protecting it. | ||
| And what the FBI is doing and has been doing for a long time is not its proper job. | ||
| It's not down there at the border now stopping these cartels from trafficking little children. | ||
| There are videos of little children sedated in the arms of people traffickers. | ||
| Why is the FBI not there? | ||
| It's just heartbreaking and unbearable to think of what's happening to these kids once they get to their final destination. | ||
| Where is the FBI? | ||
| These are terrible crimes occurring on our soil. | ||
| Instead of doing those jobs that we pay them $10 billion a year to do, they are busy raiding the former president's home and rifling through his wife's closet and they are obstructing any investigation into the Hunter Biden material. We had Timothy T. | ||
| Bolt, the FBI agent of 25 years, marched out of the building the other day, supposedly retired, probably on a full pension, generously. | ||
| Probably, I was trying to work it out yesterday, upwards of $80,000 a year. | ||
| And he's just one. I mean, that's not going to change anything. He's just one of the cabal of of FBI employees, agents, analysts, and so on, who are politically partisan and who are putting their thumbs on the scale of justice, have been doing this for at least since the beginning of Trump's arrival on the public scene. | ||
| I mean, even before he was president, after he was president, they were spying on him. | ||
| You just had Rudy Giuliani on. | ||
| They spied on him for two years. | ||
| It's obscene, but you understand how the world works, and you can weigh and measure things. | ||
| If you look at the domestic terrorism thing about the parental rights movement, moms and dads going to school boards. | ||
| If you look at Tina Peters, a gold star mother, chained up like a dog, all the way from Peter Navarro to all these... James O'Keefe and others, many others. | ||
| All the doors kicked down on all the J6 stuff for the misdemeanors. | ||
| And you compare that, I want to go back to the punch list. | ||
| The cartels. | ||
| They're not doing anything on the cartels. | ||
| The FBI has had zero impact on the cartels. | ||
| I know the cartel wars backwards and forwards. | ||
| I've been down there even before the Breitbart situation in 2008 or 2009. | ||
| You never hear about the FBI. | ||
| The FBI is not, they're not in the cartel business. | ||
| They're doing a terrible job and not a job at all in human trafficking. | ||
| Every now and again you see 80 guys on some chat room watching some child porn. | ||
| That's terrible, don't get me wrong, but that's not the human trafficking. | ||
| ISIS and the OK, give me a break! | ||
| It's the NYPD intelligence units that saved New York City. | ||
| 14 times they arrested and stopped people. | ||
| Not one time was the FBI involved. | ||
| Go ask them! | ||
| They'll tell you. | ||
| They said they want the FBI out of the room. | ||
| That Joint Terrorism Task Force and the FBI. | ||
| They said it just got in the way and was so politically correct. | ||
| The Chinese Communist Party has infiltrated the entire nation from Wall Street to the corporations to Washington, D.C. | ||
| to the universities. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Every now and again, you get some assistant professor in agronomy out in Iowa that stole a seed. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| You got some guy in a research lab with some chemist. | ||
| They do just enough to say, oh, we're doing all this. | ||
| And then they just stopped it. | ||
| Miranda Devine, are they the premier law enforcement entity in this nation, ma'am? | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| And I think their record shows it back a long way. | ||
| Whether you look at, I mean, yesterday was the anniversary of the death in 2007 of Richard Jewell, the hero security guard who saved countless lives at the Atlanta Olympic bombing in 1996. | ||
| And he was Just smeared and framed and monstered by the FBI because they just wanted an easy scapegoat. | ||
| They were incompetent and lazy and corrupt and evil, basically. | ||
| They destroyed that man's life. | ||
| He died prematurely. | ||
| And, you know, you go back to Ruby Ridge, Waco. | ||
| How many disasters have there been just in recent times? | ||
| The Gretchen Whitmer entrapment case, that's blown up in their face. | ||
| And, you know, the glimpse that we have of this very secretive organization and the supposed premier law enforcement officers in the land. There was one guy there who was arrested for beating his wife. There was video of the bedroom with blood everywhere. And he he'd allegedly beaten her because she objected to his dragging her along to a swingers party. This is one of the great FBI | ||
| agents that was there in the Richard Whitmer case, which the FBI created, concocted out of old cloth so as to Destroy and smear and scapegoat some people who are so marginal, so fringe, so poor. | ||
| One of them was living in a basement with no electricity and no running water, smoking weed all day. | ||
| These are the great masterminds that they were spending hundreds of thousands of dollars. | ||
| I mean, they bribed one of their informants. | ||
| $54,000 they gave him. | ||
| How much money are they wasting on these kind of wild goose chases, which are basically all about PR exercises for the FBI. | ||
| People don't understand what happened here in the New York Post, and as much as I get on the Murdochs, it was a moment of journalistic heroism of what happened on this laptop from hell. | ||
| You're revered, and you make a pretty good payday. | ||
| You put it all on the line. | ||
| All on the line on this situation of the laptop from hell, Hunter Biden's, and you were smeared immediately and then FBI sitting there and went to Facebook and Twitter also, and they knew it from December of the year before. | ||
| They were out to smear you and leave you holding the bag and destroy you personally. | ||
| What is your assessment? | ||
| of the FBI's involvement in what is going to turn out to be a article of impeachment on Joe Biden. | ||
| That's coming as sure as the turning of the earth. | ||
| What was the FBI's involvement, ma'am, in bringing any of this to light as the premier law enforcement entity in the world? | ||
| Of course, this morning, Mika and Joe said, oh, they're going to be talking about emails and Hunter Biden's videos or anything like that. | ||
| What was their involvement? | ||
| When you put your entire career on the line, the New York Post put their entire reputation on the line, even the Murdochs put their entire news operation on the line to get the information out to the American people in a timely manner, ma'am? | ||
| Steve, I think it was extremely sinister. | ||
| I think their role was more as instigator now. | ||
| And when you listen to the latest Joe Rogan podcast with Mark Zuckerberg, he let slip some sort of details or nuance that wasn't so evident in his Senate testimony back in 2020. | ||
| He really, I guess, let the cat out of the bag in terms of saying that, well, no, the FBI didn't specifically say it was about this story, but he didn't sound very convincing. | ||
| And when I asked the Facebook for more details on that, I asked them, did the FBI brief you on Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Ukraine, or a laptop? | ||
| before the election and they only replied, they did not mention Hunter Biden. | ||
| So we can assume from their omissions that they did mention Joe Biden, maybe even Ukraine, maybe even a laptop. | ||
| It certainly was specific enough that Facebook knew within minutes and hours of our story going live on October 14, 2020 to shut it down. | ||
| And while Mark Zuckerberg pretends that they weren't as bad as Twitter, They were worse because they were the first. | ||
| It was Andy Stone, Facebook's communications manager, a Democratic operative from way back, used to work for John Kerry, Barbara Boxer, a Democratic super PAC. | ||
| He comes out with a tweet at 11 a.m. | ||
| and he says on the day of publication, he says, I'm not going to link to the terrible New York Post story. | ||
| But it's certainly eligible for fact checking by our so, you know, honourable third party fact checkers who are all leftists. | ||
| And we are now going to basically suppress it. | ||
| And Twitter followed suit. | ||
| And so why did the FBI know so in such detail what story was coming up weeks before our story was published? | ||
| Maybe even before we even knew about the laptop, before Rudy Giuliani told us? | ||
| Well, The FBI had been spying on Rudy Giuliani's cloud. | ||
| They had access to all his emails and all his text messages from I think it was April of No, sorry, May of 2019. | ||
| And that was one month after he became Donald Trump's personal attorney officially. | ||
| So they started spying on him. | ||
| Presumably, they really wanted to spy on the President of the United States. | ||
| So at the time, August 26, 27, when John Paul MacIsaac contacted Rudy Giuliani to tell him about the laptop that Hunter Biden had abandoned in his store in Delaware, his computer repair store, back in April of 2019. | ||
| That email that John Flemack Isaac sent Rudy Giuliani would have been visible to the FBI because they were spying. | ||
| So they would have been forewarned about our story. | ||
| They would have seen my communications with Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| They knew it all. | ||
| So they were ready. | ||
| Miranda, hang on one second. | ||
| We're going to get to the update on this story when we return. | ||
| Miranda Devine, the great columnist for the New York Post, joins us in the War Room. | ||
| Just a moment. | ||
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| I want to go back to Miranda. | ||
| Miranda, 51 intelligence officers signed that letter that said it was Russian disinformation. | ||
| Some of those had to check with the FBI. | ||
| Was the FBI purposely pushing the Russian disinformation lie? | ||
| And obviously they knew it was a lie back in December of 2019. | ||
| Were they actively pushing that? | ||
| Well, look, circumstantial evidence tells you yes, because, you know, they managed to get that letter together within five days of our story going live. | ||
| That's a record time to get 51 people at disparate, you know, some of them retired, some of them at different agencies, all to sign a letter that was going to be a political bombshell. | ||
| So they must have been lined up ahead of times. | ||
| John Brennan certainly played a part in that, former CIA agent, sorry, leader. | ||
| And so, you know, it stands to reason that because I can't stress enough how crucial it was that the FBI had access to all of Rudy Giuliani's communications over that period. | ||
| So they knew exactly who he was talking to. | ||
| They knew the minute pretty much he did that John Paul MacIsaac was Spilling the beans. | ||
| And they knew, they thought they had John Paul Mac Isaac locked down. | ||
| They had been menacing to him. | ||
| They had threatened him when they came to pick up the laptop. | ||
| They had been extraordinarily rude to his father. | ||
| And they'd taken the laptop. | ||
| They'd taken a copy of a hard drive that he'd made a clone of the laptop. | ||
| And they basically told him to keep his mouth shut. | ||
| And then he didn't. | ||
| You know, he gave it to the FBI in December 2019. | ||
| And then here he is in August of 2020 contacting Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| So they knew then that they had a problem that they had to shut down. | ||
| I believe that is why they then preemptively went to social media and other media organizations to warn them with enough detail of what our story would be. | ||
| Or they didn't even know it would be the New York Post at that stage to give them enough warning so that they would recognize immediately when this story came up and shut it down. | ||
| And really, you can't blame the social media companies. | ||
| If the FBI comes to you and basically instructs you that this is going to be Russian disinformation that could damage the election and throw the election, then you kind of have no choice but to shut it down. | ||
| And so this is the FBI acting in a malign way, in a deliberate way, And then, of course, when Rudy Giuliani was talking to me at the New York Post about getting the story out, they knew exactly when the story was going to come out, which would also explain why Facebook was again immediately on guard. | ||
| So I don't think any of this is a coincidence. | ||
| I think it's a strategy and it worked very well for them. | ||
| And we know that because the story was suppressed, half the country at least didn't know about it. | ||
| Biden voters Two in three, I think, had no idea about the corruption that was revealed about the Biden family on the laptop. | ||
| And, you know, something like 40%, I think, would have changed their vote had they known. | ||
| That's polls. | ||
| But yeah, no, this is why President Trump's putting up on social media right now that, hey, we have to have another election, the thing would be reversed. It's absolutely, if people had known this, first off, the independent voters would have totally turned against Biden. They know he's compromised. It's not the Hunter perversion, as bad as that is, it's the compromise by the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| Your book is still, look, your reporting and your book is still the definitive account of this, and that's going to be, I tell everybody, it's a primer for the impeachment hearings they're going to take. | ||
| There are going to be impeachment hearings of this, there's no doubt. | ||
| The compromise, I mean, Miranda, the compromise by the Chinese Communist Party alone for money is absolutely shocking. | ||
| There's never been any presidential candidate or any candidate for high office has been as compromised by our greatest enemy, Miranda Devine. | ||
| Yes, and also the quid pro quo that's pretty clear that Vice President, then Vice President Biden made with Ukraine, the withholding of the $1 billion of aid if they didn't fire the very prosecutor, Victor Shokin, who was at that moment investigating Verisma, the company that was Paying his son, you know, $83,000 a month. | ||
| They knew that that was an absolute potato. | ||
| And this is why, therefore, the impeachment happened. | ||
| And the FBI knew throughout the impeachment that began just after they picked up the laptop in December 2019 and went on right up until the pandemic broke. | ||
| In 2020, the FBI knew that, they were sitting on it. | ||
| They had looked at the laptop, we know that, because one of them rang John Cormack Isaac, technical advice, and there were at least three of them in the room looking at the laptop. | ||
| They knew what was on it, but it was suppressed by these dirty agents in this cabal in Washington, D.C., who deliberately suppressed any information, including Tony Bobulinski's, material, his hours of interviews that he had with the FBI, all of that was suppressed. | ||
| Brian Orton and Timothy T. Volk are two FBI operatives that we've been told about by the whistleblowers Chuck Brasley's been talking to, but there are many more and their names will be coming out. | ||
| Miranda, how do people get the book? | ||
| How did they get to your reporting? | ||
| Because this story is going to be dwarf Watergate by many orders of magnitude. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| Well, the book's selling on Amazon and all good bookstores, Barnes & Noble. | ||
| Some bookstores still refuse to carry it, but so be it. | ||
| And then you can get me on social media, on Twitter, get a Truth Social, I'm at Miranda Devine, also through the New York Post. | ||
| And your columns are, you're two times a week at least in the New York Times? | ||
| New York Post, yeah. | ||
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| Miranda Devine at the New York Times. | ||
| That would be a scoop. | ||
| Miranda, thank you so much. | ||
| This story is absolutely a blockbuster. | ||
| It's only going to get bigger. | ||
| And we thank you for breaking it, what, a couple of years ago and sticking with it. | ||
| And it shows you the power of the story. | ||
| The book's still in hardcover. | ||
| It's still selling. | ||
| So everybody, the best primer for the impeachment is to get this as your starting point. | ||
| Miranda Devine, thank you very much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. | ||
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| Okay, we're taking a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got the great Alex Jones. | ||
| We're trying to tee him off. | ||
| We've also got Ben Harnwell. | ||
| We have Joe Allen. | ||
| We have this blockbuster story from the Christian Post. | ||
| There's an update on that. | ||
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