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Aug. 18, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Battleground EP 119: Cause Of Unknown; FBI Should Be Held Responsible; Group Life Mortality Survey
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steve bannon
This is what you're fighting for.
I mean, every day you're out there.
What they're doing is blowing people off.
If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power.
Because this is just like in Arizona.
This is just like in Georgia.
It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations.
This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged.
As we've told you, this is the fight.
unidentified
All this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth.
alex jones
War Room Battleground.
steve bannon
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
unidentified
Alright, some breaking news this afternoon in the media world.
Brian Stelter is out at CNN.
The host leaving the network after his show Reliable Sources was cancelled.
alex jones
It's Brian Stelter.
There it is.
Oh my God.
I mean, that is a horror movie cover.
Seriously, he is scarier looking than Hit the Clown.
I mean, would you let your children anywhere near that psychopath?
I mean, that is a psychopath right there.
I mean, look at him!
God!
I mean, it just, it cries out.
Danger!
Danger!
Alert!
Alert!
I am a scumbag!
I am filth!
I am your enemy!
I would literally not be able to finish my dinner if somebody walked over and talked to me that looked like these two guys.
And I'm sorry.
They're not just lying, anti-American scumbags that want to run us all on the ground because they're little men!
They're pieces of crap!
They think they're better than everybody!
That's what it's about!
It's the spirit of evil!
And we must break them!
I've tried to do joke photos like this to look disingenuous, and I can make any face I want to, but I can't pull it off.
Cause the eyes, Chico.
It's always in the eyes.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, hell on earth.
He wants to run your life.
He wants to control every aspect of your life because he knows he is a cowardly, degenerate sack of anti-human trash.
I pledge before my Heavenly Father that I will resist them every way I can.
These people are the literal demon spawn of the pit of hell.
Look at him!
And you know what?
He is better than you if you keep letting him run your life.
He runs your kids.
He runs the schools.
He runs the banks.
This guy!
This spirit!
This smiling, leering devil that thinks you can't see what he is!
He is your enemy!
Period!
All the narcissistic devil-worshipping filth!
I see you enemy!
I see you enemy!
Enemy!
Enemy!
You are my enemy!
And I swear total resistance to you with everything I've got!
Disingenuous!
Fake!
False!
Brokeback!
Twisted!
A defiler!
A betrayer!
A backstabber!
A devil!
You will pay!
Yeah, you think I don't see your face, scum?
You don't think I don't see you, Stelter?
I see you, you understand me?
I know what you think of me and my family.
I see you, right back!
You understand that?
You understand that, Delta?
unidentified
Yes, Delta.
You will fall!
alex jones
You will not bring humanity down!
God is going to destroy you!
Get him off the screen.
God, they're so evil.
Just please, God, free us from them!
They're drunk on our children's blood, for God's sake.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome.
It's Thursday, 18 August, Year of Our Lord 2022.
Announcement this afternoon of, really no surprise, John Malone, who's essentially the owner of the Time Warner apparatus.
He's caught all the shots he had.
Was it John Licht, who runs CNN, called Stelter in yesterday and said, not only surprisingly, Stelter gone after nine years.
at CNN. More importantly, that Reliable Sources, which I think Howard Kurtz and Howard Fox started, it's been around for 30 years, that show is a last episode will be Sunday. And for he's the hall monitor, he's the obnoxious hall monitor for the progressive left. So a not a surprising announcement. But John Licht, who is the CEO over there under orders from Malone to clean it up, and clean it up quickly. You'll be seeing I'm sure Don
Lemon and others exiting here relatively rapidly.
They're trying to turn it back to news.
And of course, the one and only Alex Jones giving his opinion.
Of course, that was from a couple of years ago when he was in Stelter.
We're going head to head all the time, but he gave you his assessment of Brian Stelter.
So reliable sources gone.
I want to bring it.
We got a lot to get to today.
We got the great Ed Dowd.
We got Dr. Harvey Risch is going to join us.
Joe Allen on this exploding story.
about the Children's Hospital in Boston.
Kind of shocking about what's going on there.
I guess they call it gender-affirming surgery.
We won't get into all that.
This story is metastasizing with Chris Ruffo and Brian Walsh and others.
I want to go first, we're going to bring in Eli Crane, who won the primary out in Arizona.
Eli, thank you for joining us.
So Eli, here's what I want to do.
I want to play the Politics and Eggs clip.
from New Hampshire.
I want Eli to comment.
He wrote a brilliant column, but I want him to comment on this Mike Pence hit up there in New Hampshire.
Let's play it.
unidentified
The Republican Party is the party of law and order.
Our party stands with the men and women who serve on the thin blue line at the federal and state and local level.
And these attacks on the FBI must stop.
Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police.
The truth of the matter is, we need to get to the bottom of what happened.
We need to let the facts play out.
But more than anything else, the American people need to be reassured in the integrity of our justice system and the very appearance of a recurrence What are you going to do?
Our role in decisions of the Justice Department demands transparency as never before.
And I will continue to call on the Attorney General and the Justice Department to make that information available to the American people and do so now.
steve bannon
The Republican Party...
What are you...
Pence, what are you going to do?
You're going to call...
It's all nonsense.
It's all just happy talking bromides.
You have to take action.
Rasmussen has a poll up this morning that 53% of the American people now believe that the FBI acts like a Gestapo because they do.
It's been politicized.
We can go through chapter and verse.
Of course, Mike Pence and his guy, you know, Mark Short, they're all working with the police state.
They're up there ratting people out all the time at these committees.
That's what they do.
This is, you know, Mark Short.
You know, you can't trust Mark Short.
You can't trust the people around Pence.
They're untrustworthy.
His aides are all over CNN all the time.
Trash talking MAGA.
Trash talking Trump.
Trash-talking you, the audience?
It's outrageous.
Eli, you wrote an amazing piece that really kind of walked through your feelings about the FBI raid, about the DOJ, about Mar-a-Lago, President Trump, this kind of fishing expedition.
But I'd like you first to give us some comments on Mike Pence and what he had to say up in New Hampshire, sir.
unidentified
Well, thanks for having me on, Steve.
I think it just shows the detachment between Mike Pence and the reality of the situation Mike seems to be talking about the FBI like it's 20 years ago.
This organization, we have seen time and time again in the pretty recent timeframe, they're broken.
They're broken and they have been weaponized.
They're extremely partisan.
And it's not just the FBI raid on a former president, Trump's home, that has never happened in the history of this country.
You got Merrick Garland, obviously.
I'm calling parents that show up to their kids' school that want to hold teachers and officials accountable for teaching their kids CRT, domestic terrorists.
I have a friend named Mike Glover, who is a former Green Beret, former Special Forces guy that started a company, and he's now on one of their watch lists.
He made a video a couple weeks ago called, I Am Not a Terrorist.
And the ironic thing is, Steve, is that Mike Glover and many of us have worked with The FBI and other federal agencies in the past to try and protect this country.
And now, if you don't go along with their agenda, as they become weaponized and partisan, and basically the action arm of the Democratic Globalist Party, now you have become a terrorist yourself.
And it's just sad to see the disconnect when leaders like Mike Pence, that once had so much respect from so many of us, Just don't get it.
They just don't see reality and it's why it's so important that this, you know, this America First movement and, you know, folks like myself get an opportunity to get in there and help straighten it out because we know, Steve, we are at war.
This country, the heart and soul of this country right now, hangs in the balance and if we keep acting like moderate Republicans, And establishment Republicans who want to fixate on big government, little government, tax law, we're going to lose this country.
And that's why it's so important that we continue to focus on, as you say all the time, signal and not noise.
steve bannon
Eli, I just want to give your bona fides, if you can walk through it, your service to the country.
Because in this race in Arizona, you are the MAGA candidate.
You're the law and order candidate.
So this is not coming from people who do not have the absolute back of the military and don't have the back of the police.
What is your service to the country?
And walk me through your bona fides being the law and order candidate in this congressional race out in Arizona.
unidentified
Well, absolutely, Steve.
And this is what breaks my heart about it is, you know, many of my friends, some of my best friends are in law enforcement and they're the sled dogs.
And this is a leadership problem.
Like so many of the leadership problems that we have across the board in this country.
But I was a former Navy SEAL, Steve.
I joined the Navy the week after 9-11.
I actually dropped out of school my senior year to go do that.
I love this country.
I'm endorsed by the National Border Patrol Council.
And, you know, so it doesn't, It doesn't excite me at all to, you know, in a sense, throw an organization that many of us looked up to for many, many, many decades under the bus and say, these guys, these guys have gone off the reservation.
They must be reined in.
And I think it's like a lot of things, Steve.
I think it's, I think it's a leadership issue.
You know, I think that we have to cut the head off of the snake and we have to expose, we have to bring what's been done in the dark into the light.
And that's going to take congressional hearings, but it's also going to take the great men and women in the FBI and other law enforcement agencies that are just as sick and tired of seeing this crap, who become whistleblowers and work with us so that we can straighten this out and we can restore confidence back in our nation's law enforcement.
It's a sad day, Steve, and it brings me no pleasure at all to, you know, be even thinking about the FBI like many of us do now.
Let's, let's put up Eli's piece.
steve bannon
Eli, walk us through this.
Take a minute or two and walk us through this piece that you wrote that I think is incredibly perceptive and kind of lays out your thoughts on this.
unidentified
Yeah.
Well, Steve, I mean, it just goes into the fact that this raid is not an isolated incident.
Okay.
You know, I talked about some of the other, some of the other issues, but these bureaucracies, These organizations seem to get further and further away from what their charter is in protecting the American people and our constitutional rights.
And like I said, they have become partisan, they have become weaponized.
If you look at the contrast between what happens when Hillary Clinton bleached bits and crushes You know, her servers and all of her emails and there's nothing done about it.
When you look at the fact that Hunter Biden is still walking the street and then you look at what happened with the president while he was coordinating with the FBI to try and get this straightened out and get them what they needed.
We know that this is political, and that's what worries so many of us that have actually worn the uniform, have carried the firearms to protect men and women in this country.
We know what happens.
We've seen it overseas when these bodies that are supposed to protect the populace get weaponized and turned on the populace.
That's why so many of us are speaking out about this, Steve.
steve bannon
Talk to us about, you won the primary.
Talk to us about, and you won it handily.
Talk to us about the race.
Walk us through what's got to happen, where you're going, and then how do people get your website?
Because this is one that's your MAGA through and through and Trump endorsed.
And so this is one that's obviously incredibly important.
unidentified
Yes, Steve.
It really is.
It's Tom O'Halloran is a three-term Democrat.
We're trying to unseat him.
He's been ranked the most vulnerable Democrat.
In the entire country.
He's done nothing about the border.
He continues to vote for all this legislation that's destroying our economy, and we have to unseat him.
And you know what, Steve?
One of the greatest things about a lot of what I'm seeing, especially with this raid on Mar-a-Lago, is it's doing something that I don't think the Democrats really took into consideration.
It's actually uniting the party, and I'm seeing You know, individuals that, you know, aren't always on the same page, whether we're MAGA or America First or more moderate Republican, actually unite and just, you know, call this out for what it is and just the overreach that it is.
And so, if you guys want to help us out, if you want to help us flip Tom O'Halloran in the most vulnerable Democratic seat in the country, please go to Eli4Arizona.com.
You guys can find me at Eli Crain, CEO, Eli4Arizona on social media.
We really appreciate this show, the activism, and it spurs us on every day to not just be about a bunch of talk, but action, action, action.
steve bannon
Eli Crane, former Navy SEAL, Trump-endorsed in a tough one out there in Arizona.
He's the MAGA candidate.
Eli, thank you.
The article was amazing, and thank you for your thoughts on Mike Pence.
Look forward to seeing you on the campaign trail.
unidentified
Thank you, brother.
Appreciate it, Steve.
steve bannon
Thank you.
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Want to bring in Ed Dowd from Hawaii.
Ed's one of the smartest guys out there about capital markets and trading.
And he's a numbers guy.
He was one of the top-ranked portfolio managers at BlackRock, which remember, you're not there for your personality.
You're there for your brains and your trading instincts.
Ed, as you and I, we've had you on a lot to talk about the economy and more of the traditional stuff you've done, but you've become, I don't say obsessed, but you've become very focused and really getting to the bottom of a lot of the ground truth About the pandemic, about things that drove the world economy kind of to the brink, or I guess today still driving it to the brink.
And you became really very focused on a couple of fundamental sets of data.
It's leading to Tony Lyons and the great guy, Children Health Defense, Tony Lyons.
I think you're coming out with a book in the fall.
I just want to give people a heads up that you're actually taking your research in this area and turning it into a book called Causes Unknown.
Why don't you walk us through What you found that you believe now needs to be pulled into a book form so that you can explain it to people, sir.
edward dowd
Sure.
So my journey began with anecdotes in this, you know, early part of 2021.
I had a thesis that something changed in 21.
My thesis was vaccines.
So I knew what to look for.
And that was insurance company results, funeral home results.
And then we dug into the CDC data and other databases across the globe.
And what we found was that, uh, basically younger working age folks started dying at alarming rates in 2021 versus 2020.
Uh, in the first, uh, year of the pandemic, pre-vaccine with mostly old people, and then the mixed shift shifted to working age folks.
And, uh, today I want to report, uh, something brand new.
Uh, yesterday I was notified by one of my insurance actuarial insiders that the Society of Actuary Research Institute put out a report on group life insurance mortality, excess mortality.
And this is a survey of 80% of the revenues of the group life US industry.
And basically, it confirms what myself and my Wall Street partner found on your show in February that we were doing individually, company by company.
It confirms that in Q3, If you have table 5.7, you might want to show that.
It confirmed that in Q3, into the mandates, there was an alarming spike in working age excess deaths.
In the 35 to 44, it was 100% over normal for that quarter.
You know, this basically, this report, and the quote from my insiders to me about this society is basically that she said, nerds, highest standards of data and quality ethics for real.
You can rely on that report.
So this is literally confirming what we've seen in the company results aggregated.
It continues to show about 20% excess desk currently in the Q1 in this report.
I am told by her that this number remains around that level going into Q2 from Q1.
So the data has been confirmed by the Society of Actuaries.
Now, whether or not they make the same conclusions I do, I won't go there because they're actuaries.
They're not, you know, the bravest people on the planet, but I'm a loud, brash Wall Street guy.
I have my thesis.
I believe I'm 100% right on what's causing the excess deaths in the U.S.
and across the globe.
steve bannon
Okay, I just want to make sure we frame this properly.
You came on in February.
You knew something was changing in 2021.
You started doing your research and your thesis was, hey, what's new is this vaccine.
This vaccine is now out and being promulgated, being pushed out.
And you came on in February and you kind of had this shocking news to say, Hey, look, I've been running these numbers where I got a couple of insurance partners and you can see that there's a higher debt.
And it's not small.
It's not one or 2%.
These are 20% or higher, which is shocking.
I mean, it's, those are people should understand and something like this.
If you get outside the bandwidth by one or 2%, even that brings everybody down saying what's going on at 20%.
It's like something monumental.
What you're saying now is a society of actuaries doing their own analysis is going to publish.
It's been internal, but it hasn't been promulgated publicly.
I guess they're, they are going to come forward for the best of your knowledge.
edward dowd
It's already public.
I have a link better site.
It's already came out yesterday.
And my actuarial insider said go look at table 5.7.
It basically confirms everything you've said about the insurance industry.
Let's put 5.7.
unidentified
Go ahead.
steve bannon
Let's put 5.7.
unidentified
Go ahead.
steve bannon
Okay, walk us through 5.7 because this should be the front page of the New York Times.
This should be the front page of the Wall Street Journal.
The Financial Times of London should have a screaming headline.
Even if the actuaries don't make the jump or don't go to the logical conclusion of what you're saying, this is what the drivers are.
Just the math in itself should shock people, correct, Ed, in the normal course of business?
edward dowd
This should be front page of Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Washington Post.
It should be on Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC.
This needs to stop.
What we see here, the red, as highlighted by this society, is an event.
What was that event?
That event was mandates into Q3, August, September, October.
And what I showed earlier on your show several months ago was a breakdown of the millennial cohort, where I Famously proclaimed that the government had committed democide through mandates.
And, you know, the numbers are there.
So we showed the millennial age group saw a rate of change into 84% excess mortality in the third quarter of 2021.
And boom, here's the Society of Actuaries confirming my work and my partner's work.
There it is.
steve bannon
So where do we go from here?
I mean, we'll obviously make sure the correct people get this, but now that it's out, tell me, you know, cause you make, you have a theory of the case, the actuaries don't have to, they're just putting up the actual aerial charts.
How do you then make the link to what you're saying?
The cases of what's driving these, uh, the differences in death rates?
edward dowd
Well, so the naysayers have claimed, uh, that it's.
Long COVID, they've claimed that it's suicides, they've claimed that it's missed screening cancer treatments, and they've claimed it's drug overdoses.
The problem with that is you can see, temporally, the rate of change into the third quarter.
And you can't say to me that all these events occurred simultaneously.
Everyone decided to commit suicide, overdose on drugs, or miss their cancer screening treatments.
It makes no sense for that age group.
That's number one.
So, temporally, the rate of change is the smoking gun for that age group.
Secondarily, my hedge fund partners and I are working on some data from the UK that's going to basically show a linkage between ages 1 through 14 of actual all-cause mortality coming down during 2020 and 2021 before that age group got vaccinated.
And then mysteriously, as soon as the vaccines get rolled out, the cumulative deaths start rising.
And you can't say that ages 1 through 14 are overdosing on drugs, missing their cancer screening treatments, or committing suicide.
So, the window is closing on what I call the death merchants, the death dealers.
The evidence is becoming overwhelming and, you know, I saw your show this morning and the CDC is doing the one-two shuffle here to try to cover up what's coming.
They know what's coming.
It's becoming undeniable.
steve bannon
Well, okay, this is why we wanted to have you on today.
We got Harvey Risch, obviously, the great Harvey Risch, following you.
We're going to try to get you on.
We're doing a special tomorrow.
The entire six o'clock hour is going to be on this topic.
Do you believe that the CDC and the guys inside the apparatus understanding, hey, because they follow this show closely, hey, what you put out there in February, Knowing that the Society of Actuaries were going to come to this conclusion.
This is part of the reason they're saying the CDC has failed in their job and they're having, they're trying to get ahead of this by saying that there's been certain failures, major failures of the CDC?
edward dowd
Absolutely.
And if we go back in the time machine, when we started coming out with this data on your show, it wasn't that long after that they declared COVID pandemic over and all of a sudden the Ukraine war started.
So, Temporarily, this issue was kind of wiped off the board, but it's back and it's not going away.
And this movement we're seeing from them is definitely an attempt to whitewash and cover up.
steve bannon
Ed, can you give how people, first off, can we put the cover of the book up?
I take it we can't order the book yet.
I talked to Tony Lyons.
I just want to put the cover up.
The cover is pretty amazing.
It's going to be up on Amazon and Skyhorse and Children's Health Defense when it comes out.
But this is where Ed's going to put a book out in this.
Ed, I know you're getting banned every other day from someplace.
Where do people go now to get to your writings and stay on top of this?
edward dowd
Getter and the website, I've got some partners working on it.
I want to get some stuff out there soon, but getter at Edward Dodd, D-O-W-D.
I put the link to the full SOA report.
On getter and you can, this is freely available.
It's in PDF format.
You can download it, read it.
But, uh, I was pointed to the table 5.7 by my industry insider.
He said, this is a smoking gun.
unidentified
Okay.
steve bannon
Uh, real quickly, Twitter banned you or shut you down as one of the other social media shut you down.
edward dowd
Um, I was never on Facebook or Instagram.
I never joined.
I was on Twitter and got, uh, Booted off Twitter for basically citing CDC data and peer-reviewed studies.
steve bannon
Exactly.
edward dowd
And that was gone.
steve bannon
That's the point I want to make.
Ed Dowd, American Patriot, your work here has just been extraordinary.
I can't wait for the book, and hopefully we'll talk you out of the show, get you on Tomorrow Night Sick with Dr. Malone, Dr. Wolf.
Hopefully we'll talk Harvey Risch into it, too.
Ed Dowd from Hawaii.
Okay, short commercial break.
Dr. Harvey Risch from Yale and of course Joe Allen in the War Room.
unidentified
War Room Battleground with Stephen K Bannon Welcome back.
steve bannon
Because they put out this report, a scathing report, as the mainstream media said, about the CDC, we want to bring in Dr. Harvey Rush, who's been at this from day one.
Doctor, you have stepped forward at your position at Yale with a lot of moral courage and warned America about what was going on.
Give us your assessment.
People want to hear what you have to say about this quote-unquote scathing report that I guess CDC has done on itself or has done in conjunction with some senior executive service personnel from the public health apparatus.
Can you give us your assessment?
dr harvey risch
Well, it's great to be with you, Steve.
I don't really see this as a scathing report.
I see this as a trivial report on issues that are not really straightforward, that the CDC recognizes that it has a truth and reliability issue with the American public, and rather than getting to the bottom of what their internal problems are, they attempt to paper over it with trivial reasons like what they're calling transparency
rapidity of response and things like that, that are not the critical issues that they're facing.
The problem with the CDC is that they have repeatedly put out fatally flawed studies on their Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, which is their in-house journal, and they don't recognize that these are problematic studies and papers.
These papers have 20, 30, 40 MDs and PhD epidemiologists on them, All these people are signing off on this work that purports to be science, but it's all bogus.
And the reason that it's bogus is because of actual technicalities that make these studies flawed.
For example, reporting on a survey that got 8 to 13 percent response rate, that would be laughed out of any epidemiology journal.
And yet they take that seriously with a straight face and purport to say that that's representative of some study that people that they surveyed.
And there are other, other numerical errors that they've made throughout these, these publications that make them untrustworthy and unreliable.
steve bannon
And that's led to... But, but, but hang on, hang on for a second, but hang on.
You're one of the, you've dedicated your life to this and you're one of the top people in this country working at a top institution, Yale.
When you say something like that to an average schmo like myself and the rest of our audience, It's like, that would be something you would correct of a graduate student that said, hey, you just didn't understand how to do the math, here's how you do it.
What I think boggles people's minds is in something that was this catastrophic for the country.
How did they consistently do these types of things?
When you just said they had 30 or 40 doctors or PhDs.
And these people all come, they're all credentialized.
They all come from the top places in the country.
The CDC is all run by Dr. Winsley.
They all went to the top medical schools.
They're all the best and the brightest.
So How does something that fundamental, when you mentioned it to guys, like, well, that's so obvious.
How did he even get through their own committees internally?
So, so explain to the, to the civilian out there, how could this possibly happen?
And it's, it's not one guy that made a mistake.
It's, you said there's 30 or 40 doctors, you got the whole CDC apparatus.
They're putting this stuff out and it's not like it's minor stuff.
This is what the country's making massive decisions, not just in our economy, but for a whole way of life.
dr harvey risch
So, one particular egregious thing that they did exemplifies why this is a problem and where it comes from.
And that was, they did basically state-by-state analyses of masking, I think, and then they picked one state.
You know, there's variation from state to state in the results.
They picked the state that had the most positive results of the case that they wanted to make.
They cherry-picked the state and put that out as if that's science.
That is the problem, that they are using science to represent predetermined policies that they want.
And so, as far as I can tell, the underlying problem is their paternalism, that they think that they are exalted and experts and know better than the people in the public about how to manage their lives and how to manage their behaviors and how to manage their medical status.
And that paternalism is a failed public health motive.
It fails on constitutional rights grounds, and now we've found that it's failed on technological science grounds as well.
So when the CDC says that it's planning to be transparent, what that means is we want you to think we're transparent, but we're still going to be paternalistic.
We're just going to hide our lack of transparency better.
unidentified
So there's no reason to believe that they're going to be transparent.
dr harvey risch
The problem is politicization and the use of science to further their political motives.
steve bannon
One thing that's disturbing and they, when they go through this whole thing, they really, the core of it, they're getting down, they want more resources and they actually said they ought to be given more mandates epidemiologically to actually have more emergency, the ability to call for more emergency.
Am I wrong in my assessment that they, after citing their faults of transparency and these other things, their solution is more money, more resources in a bigger scale at a federal level.
to really put out more dictates and really call whether there's more pandemics or not?
dr harvey risch
Well, part of that is correct that the CDC has always had trouble getting data from the state health departments.
Some states are compliant and some are resistant and this has gone back to the toxic shock episode of the early 1980s and since then as well that states can be slow in registering their events and And they may get to the CDC months later, or maybe not.
Nobody quite knows.
And so, the CDC is right.
Dr. Redfield told me that he had tried to put a CDC staffer in each state public health department so that that could coordinate getting the data, and Congress wouldn't fund it.
It was an expensive proposition.
Congress wouldn't fund it.
So, there's some reason to think that it's true that the CDC does not have enough resources to be able to acquire data rapidly from across the country and representatively.
On the other hand, giving the CDC carte blanche to make even worse policy pronouncements than they've done in the last two years would just be even more catastrophic.
They've proven that they can't handle the responsibility of providing objective results, and so what they've done is they've channeled messaging from a top-down approach rather than actually looking at science and formulating actual objective scientific results.
CDC came out last week and said that the vaccines are not a viable method of reducing transmission of the virus, neither the original shots nor the booster system.
And they quietly said this as if to say, oh, the science has been changed.
Well, the science hasn't changed.
It's their evaluation got held up to light to show that they were wrong in their policy in the first place.
And we were saying this a year or more ago, that this was not going to work in the long term.
And that's what happened eventually.
And so finally, the CDC was forced to concede that this was the case, because everybody knows of all the people who've been vaccinated and been getting COVID.
And so, you know, for them to admit to the reality is, if they hadn't, it would have been an even worse credibility stain on them.
But as it is now, they're just kind of ignoring their whole past and hoping that everybody will forget the last 20 minutes and just see what they said now.
But we're not willing to do that.
steve bannon
How is it that these group of professionals, you've said this and Naomi and both Dr. Malone said this morning, which kind of chilled me to the marrow of my bones, that they don't really believe in science and they want to use science just to fulfill, not real science, but scientism to fulfill their policy objectives.
How is it that this many professionals from this many great institutions credentialize it?
I think what's scary.
Is when you guys say that, and you guys are so respectable, it's all about science, all about the evidence, all about the data.
And you're saying these great institutions of ours are now really practicing scientism.
How did that happen?
dr harvey risch
Well, it's, I wouldn't put it exactly that way.
I would say that what they're practicing is technologism.
that I'd say 90% of what is science is not actually science, it's technology.
That using scientific equipment and making measurements and drawing conclusions isn't quite science.
It's a technological and technical process, but the science is making hypotheses about how nature works and then making measurements in order to see whether those theories work or are refuted.
And so relatively few of us are actually scientists.
Most doctors are not scientists.
Very few of the doctors that get master's in public health degrees are not scientists.
Doctors who get PhDs and do a dissertation may be scientists, but again, it depends on whether they're pushing a technological measurement to see whether this biological test, you know, measures some particular thing.
It's a measure of the technology, not of a scientific question about how nature works.
And this is a subtle question that is not even apparent in to scientists as a whole, let alone to the lay public.
So relatively few people are actually asking scientific questions because they want to know how nature works, and it just happens that it applies to the medical or public health circumstances we're in.
steve bannon
Well, we said this is going to be a huge fight, and it's just the opening round on this about the CDC because it's going to be restructured.
And Dr. Risch, I know your voice is going to be one that people are going to want to reach out to.
How can people find you on social media?
How can they stay up with your thinking, sir?
dr harvey risch
I have a telegram channel at HarveyRischMDPhD and or they can Google Risch and Yale.
That's the two words and I come up and that has a link to my telegram channel.
It also has information about me on the Yale website.
steve bannon
Dr. Harvey Wersch, thank you.
Honored to have you on here for joining us and having you back, sir.
dr harvey risch
Pleasure.
steve bannon
One of the most respected men in the country in this field.
Let's go.
We get another, you know, another great institution up in Boston, one of the most revered institutions in our country and the world.
about healthcare for children.
And there is a firefight going on right now.
Let's play this open.
Remember, the cartoon we're about to show you comes from probably some of the smartest guys in the country about culture and about what really drives a culture.
So let's play this and I'll bring in Joe Allen.
unidentified
Who the hell do you think you are?
steve bannon
Dr. Biber.
unidentified
What kind of nut job would agree to surgically alter my son into a tall African-American?
steve bannon
Oh, you're Kyle's father.
unidentified
That's right.
And I also happen to be a lawyer.
And I'm going to have you sued for malpractice and your clinic shut down!
What is that on your shirt?
What?
They're dolphins.
Why?
Oh, you like dolphins.
I love dolphins.
Ever since I was a child, I dreamt of... But that has hardly any bearing on what I'm here to... I can make you one.
What?
Invert the back, move the esophagus to the top of the head?
Yes, a full dolphinoplasty could be achieved relatively simply.
Make me a... dolphin?
♪ If I could swim with the dolphins ♪ ♪ The soft and gentle dolphins ♪ ♪ Why can't I swim with the dolphins?
♪ No.
No, no, it's crazy.
There's nothing crazy about a person wanting to look on the outside the way they feel on the inside.
Gerald!
steve bannon
What happened to you?
unidentified
That doctor is a miracle worker, Sheila.
I'm the happiest I've ever been.
Look, Ike, your daddy's a dolphin.
A dolphin?
Sheila, it was wrong of us to be so judgmental of Kyle.
If he isn't happy with who he is, then who are we to deny him surgery that will make him feel better about himself?
Gerald, this is crazy!
I used to think I was crazy.
But Dr. Biber told me that there are a lot of other people out there who are trans-species.
All I did is change my appearance to look the way I felt here.
And I'm telling you now that if we don't let Kyle do the same, he may never be happy.
Ever.
We owe him more than that, Sheila.
We owe him understanding!
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to bring in our editor, Joe Allen.
You know, that is obviously comedic, but it has a very powerful message that that show often does and strikes to the heart of it.
Joe Allen, there's this major controversy at Boston Children's Hospital around what they're actually doing, and this is You know, these are not a bunch of quacks.
This is one of the most revered institutions for the health of children, not just in the nation, but in the world.
So walk us through, what does that cartoon at the beginning mean and tie it to this controversy that's going on?
joe allen
Well, Steve, it's good to see a little comedy relief in a horrific situation like this.
That was South Park, of course.
And interestingly enough, the The town that that clinic was in, in the show South Park, is Trinidad, Colorado.
Trinidad, Colorado is where the first major transgender surgery was conducted in the U.S., and that was in 1969.
It's basically kind of spread out since then.
Of course, the procedure and the attempts go back further.
But I think that, you know, you see a guy who wants to become The dolphin he always felt like he was.
It may seem ridiculous, but I really don't think it's too far off from the sorts of extremes people are going to in order to alter themselves.
And of course, when you take into account institutions like Boston Children's Hospital, and you see that there's a push to allow children to determine what sort of body they're going to have by way of surgical knives, It's all so absurd.
Most people look at just something as crazy as the demand for one to acknowledge someone's pronoun.
Somebody says, I want to be called Bay from here on out.
And it's just appalling.
They can't even comprehend why a society would move in that direction and how a sane society could.
And my response is, I don't think that a sane society can.
I don't think we are a sane society.
At least not those segments that have detached themselves so far from reality that they are, one, willing to sort of entertain people's delusions, but two, that they would not just encourage it among children.
steve bannon
But hang on, but hang on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, but hang on, but hang on.
When you say that, they say that, you know, they're delusional and it says, this is the heart of the medical profession.
I mean, Boston Charles is not some bunch of quacks in some Chautauqua.
Traveling around the country.
It's some carny.
This is in Boston, which is I still believe, you know, along with New York City, the medical center of the universe.
It's got obviously Harvard Medical School there, but it is a railhead.
of so much of the great innovation and what's going on. And Boston Children's is world-renowned.
So these are not people on the margin. These are people in the heart of actually providing health care to children. And I think the point is that they actually have an active program on this that is active.
I mean, it's proactive.
They are very active in doing this and messaging it, putting commercials out, and building a big practice on what's referred to as gender-affirming.
What is gender-affirming?
joe allen
Gender affirming simply says that the medical establishment will treat a patient according to what they declare their gender to be, regardless of sex.
You know, Steve, I think that Boston is absolutely a hub of not only medical innovation but also scientific discovery and just, you know, intellectual ferment in general.
It just shows how detached from reality intellectuals and scientists and technologists can be from the deeper realities of human life and the universe.
You know, the biomedical establishment Which has become the object of such mistrust and derision over the past two and a half years.
That's the same establishment that in the 90s and early 2000s was pushing antidepressants, which have been shown to be not only ineffective, but increasingly damaging to people's bodies and minds as they take them over time.
Same thing with the opioid crisis pushed out through Purdue Pharma and OxyContin.
Also, now with the vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna and J&J, it doesn't really matter if reality keeps smashing their ideals over and over and over again.
They have enough clout, enough power, and enough wealth to weather that storm and to continue to push these sorts of things on the population.
So, when you talk about child gender-affirming care, To me it just fits in with the broader sort of system that we're talking about, one in which power and prestige and status have completely overtaken this normal common sense.
And it's a horrific situation because many people won't seek medical care in the future because they don't trust that system.
steve bannon
But by the way, we're going to have you back on tomorrow.
We're going to break.
We got the show starts again at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning.
We still got the Elon Musk thing to get to about the robots, but I got to continue this.
This story only gets bigger.
And I also want to tell our audience about why we selected South Park.
South Park had done a number of parts about that.
I want the one on Dolphin.
Because it ends with transpecies, and of course you're having a belly laugh.
Hey, what Elon Musk is just in the Daily Mail yesterday talking about the woman who was his, you know, his partner, who he had a couple of kids with, she wanted to have surgery to have elf ears.
And he had, you know, had to talk her out of it.
Transhumanism, all this about this gender ideology is the predicate and the substrate of what we talk about in transhumanism.
And don't laugh!
Trans species is part of that.
That's already kind of, you know, the South Park, this thing's from a couple of years ago.
This is, people are like, well, this is crazy.
Well, yeah, you may say it's crazy, but it's going on.
And this is what we keep talking about transhumanism so much when we talk about the Great Reset and everything.
The core of that, and the reason we have Joe as our full-time editor on it, he's on a special project right now, is that this is signal, not noise.
And that's why we get to get to the bottom of it.
Joe Allen, real quickly, how do people get to all your social media to follow you?
You're going to be back on the Morning Show tomorrow.
unidentified
How do people get to you in the interim?
joe allen
Yeah, you can find me on Gitter, at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z.
Also, my website, joebot.xyz.
And of course, warroom.org.
Thank you very much, Steve.
steve bannon
You can't get him on Twitter like Rufo and Matt Walsh because of this exact story.
We'll be back here tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
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