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Episode 2075: The Great Reset And The War For The World
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alex jones
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steve bannon
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Well, the virus has now killed more than 100 people in China, and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
I gotta tell you, this book, The Great Reset and The War for the World, the left and the mainstream media are going to have to sit there and we've got to force them to respond to this book.
This book is that important.
Alex Jones cuts to the heart of the matter.
If you compare the finest, and I'm telling you, you take MIT Technology Review, you take science, take all these magazines and journals, add the electronic part of it, and, you know, NPR, PBS, all of it, I'll take it.
I'll match up and we'll go through and we'll do what Alex Jones put out there versus what your collective body has put out there.
And if you're a sentient human being and just watching it, you say, well, God, Alex Jones was ahead of this.
Not only that, he kind of explained it.
alex jones
They're just in this huge revolution.
against choice and free will and normal technological development and adoption of technology that empowers humanity.
Instead, they want adoption of technology, forced adoption, world IDs, global social credit scores, carbon taxes that dominate and monitor every facet of our lives.
steve bannon
You make the case of what the not just the new world order is, but using this great reset to really take up their whole idea of control and authoritarianism.
alex jones
They have decided to trigger a controlled collapse and then bring in a new dark age to control the general public where they will be in their Elysium fields.
There is no new technology coming and they're blocking that.
And so really, they're just imploding things under the Clough-Pippen model to show that they can get that control over us.
steve bannon
Alex Jones cuts to the heart of the matter.
unidentified
He has presented tons of valid evidence and facts that I think have been really, really important to raising consciousness to what this sort of technocratic global elite really want to do.
steve bannon
The true thing that you've done, which is stunning, If you look at the evidence of that and the facts, you are one of the great thinkers of this.
That is very rare.
You've got to go back almost to the revolutionary generation and see that.
This book, The Great Reset and The War for the World, I'm telling you, everybody in America, the people that hate Alex Jones the most have to read this book.
This is no beach read.
You're not going to be flipping pages here.
You're going to be having a pen out and you're going to be underlining stuff.
It's amazing.
unidentified
The Great Reset and the War for the World, by Alex Jones.
Available now at Amazon and Infowarsstore.com.
steve bannon
Okay, it's Saturday, 13 August, Year of Our Lord 2022, and we're really excited about doing a Saturday special.
The entire two hours today is devoted to Alex Jones, his big blockbuster book, The Great Reset in the War for the World, to really deconstruct this book, to get to know the author.
We're also going to have the filmmaker who just made a story, a very controversial film about his life, Alex's War.
We're going to have the publisher, Tony Lyons, from Skyhorse Press, one of the most prominent publishers in the country that took the risk of doing the Bobby Kennedy book, as you know, on Dr. Fauci.
And as the publisher of this, and if we can fit it all in, Joe Allen, our editor-in-chief of all things transhumanism, to basically talk about Alex Jones' thinking in this.
Alex, first off, you're one of the most revered and reviled men on the planet.
You're one of the most well-known and controversial men on the planet.
I don't think anybody's had a role, maybe not even President Trump, the last couple of weeks.
Everything that's happened in Mar-a-Lago, now a global thing, you're back on the show, you're at the forefront, you've got a book coming out, you have a huge hit movie, a big best-selling, No.
1 best-selling New York Times book about to hit, a trial that everybody in the world is focused on because they've got the whole world's media down, there's a small Texas courthouse.
Just get our audience up to date.
How have the last couple of weeks been, and where's the head of Alex Jones right now?
alex jones
I try to stay focused on the Great Reset, the globalist takeover that we're witnessing of transhumanist fascism by a select group of corporations that are using authoritarianism to consolidate control.
I try to stay focused on that, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't get distracted by the show trial.
One of three that said, or I've already been found guilty by these judges.
It's all coordinated.
And then the judge instructed the jury that I was guilty.
She wouldn't let us put on our financials that I don't have a lot of money.
She put up a guy with no evidence saying I had $260 million in the bank.
steve bannon
So if you did, if you did, if you're able to do your real financials, you wouldn't be worth a quarter.
I think it's a quarter of a billion, over a quarter of a billion dollars.
I think what the forensic accountant said, if you're able to put on the real financials, it wouldn't be that number.
alex jones
It would be.
Look, I don't measure myself by money, but I did have $10 million in the bank a year ago, and I've spent almost all of it keeping on the air.
We've been in the negative.
I didn't think of $10 million as a lot.
I saw it as an emergency reserve, and I've expended it with the bandwidth and the legal and all the things.
And I'm not complaining.
I'm definitely in the arena.
But it is surreal to actually be in the most historic show trials ever.
I saw the show trial they had for you, where you couldn't cross-examine.
And they now admit, at the end of the trial, but also on CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, everywhere, they said, the model we've done with Alex Jones, the London Telegraph talked about it, the BBC wrote about it.
The model we've used on Alex Jones will now be the model to silence anyone that questions official narratives.
So this is the next level of not just censoring people online.
But misrepresenting what prominent populists and nationalists have said, and then finding them guilty in default, and then telling a jury, you just decide how guilty.
And so they told them I had $260 million in the bank, and their lawyers asked for $150 million.
And then the jury, now some of it was spoken out to the media, they said, well, we thought he shouldn't be ruined, but we thought You know, $48 million or whatever was reasonable, which is just totally insane.
And so, again, that's how they totally manipulated and controlled this trial.
But at the end of the day, it is a price to pay to be on the front lines against these people.
And I'm very blessed and very honored that really my guests and my audience, Steve, over the years is the reason InfoWars has been so effective and so blessed to reach so many people.
And so the globalists do track back, as you said when I was on the show last week, Almost like InfoWars was the special forces at the front lines laying the tracks for the heavy equipment to come in behind us.
And so that's how they see me.
It's very surreal to be in that position.
And it's also frightening because I'm really concerned if they're able to silence me, they'll be able to silence everybody else.
But I'm seeing a real rallying around InfoWars, and I'm very blessed and thankful for that.
I've certainly made mistakes, but they take those mistakes, magnify them, and then misrepresent what you've said and then try to destroy you.
steve bannon
No, I continue to call you I-Corps Commander because you're the information war commander.
And if people, remember, if people in the power structure, the global investment banks, the World Economic Forum, the global corporatists, these governments, if they didn't know that Alex Jones was getting to the heart of it, There wouldn't have been global media down at some small Texas courthouse.
They know exactly what the information is, they know what the truth is, and that's why they're coming after you.
Just for our audience, because you said this the first time we had you on, when we talked about The Great Reset, this amazing book, I think it comes out.
On the 23rd, I think it is, in a couple weeks, but you can pre-order now on Amazon.
Also, you can go and stream the movie Alex War, which we're going to have Alex Moyer on here.
It's just an incredible film, and she didn't pull any punches.
I mean, this is Alex Jones, what I call the good, the bad, and the ugly.
It's a very, very powerful documentary film, and one that we strongly recommend everybody see.
Alex, I think what has caught people, a lot of people by surprise, maybe don't follow, don't go to InfoWars all the time, but don't even go to War Room, is that there are more of these trials coming up.
Can you just tell us, and you said on the show the other day, hey, the one you saw is the least, there's worse coming.
What do you mean by that, particularly for people that support you and support, want to support InfoWars and you personally?
When you say worse things coming, what does that mean?
alex jones
Well, Judge Maya Gamble was just elected two years ago, and she took over the case from a retiring judge who was bad but not half as bad as her.
She is a Soros acolyte.
She is a SJW Antifa supporter on her own Facebook.
And she is an extreme authoritarian.
And so she has both the Texas trials, two different groups of Sandy Hook parents suing me.
The next trial is set to start In Texas in a month at the same time it's set to start in Connecticut not a two-week trial but a eight-week trial which is again a default where I'm already guilty the judge says because I didn't supply any discovery which is a total lie And so that's going to be going on with wall-to-wall coverage constantly trying to demonize InfoWars and myself to again create the precedent they've already said to shut down.
They've said your name.
They've said Tucker Carlson's name.
They've said Joe Rogan's name.
There was another big Media Matters article yesterday that went down the list saying we're going to get all these people next by suing them in select jurisdictions where they control the judges ...who are literally financed by George Soros.
This is something that's really important to add.
I would tell people 10 years ago, even though it was in the documents, that George Soros was financing and getting district attorneys and county attorneys and state attorneys elected.
And he's got over a thousand of them total in the U.S., most big cities and many medium-sized cities and even small towns have his people in.
In Travis County, where Austin is, He spent over a million dollars putting in our new district attorney that lets people go gangbangers a day after they shoot people in the streets.
I mean, it's that bad.
And so, people think of it as just being district attorneys.
Well, now everybody knows that Soros has spent $41 billion.
Tucker Carlson did a big, you know, hour-long report on it a week ago.
A lot of bravery for him.
It'll still come after you if you talk about it.
$41 billion in a decade.
Divide that up, folks.
That's billions a year.
billion dollars, but it's people have, but that's only about half of the 41 billion is putting just attorneys in.
The main push is judges in jurisdictions where judges are elected, and so imagine you live in a town where you've grown up and the judge is Antifa, the judges SJW, the judge is financed by Soros, and then you've got a bunch of Soros connected Democratic Party law firms.
The ones that sued Remington into bankruptcy and you have these people literally triangulating with the controlled corporate media and the judges and the lawyers.
And then the rest of the story is they run your lawyers off the cases by sanctioning him and threatening him until I've had a bunch of lawyers quit.
Even though they turn over all of the stuff they want, they still sanction them and say they have it.
I've been sanctioned in Austin 1.4 million dollars in the last four years of this kangaroo trial.
A million of it just the last two months.
She sanctioned me a million And change just a month ago.
And normally, you don't do that until after you failed your appeal at the State Supreme Court or the U.S.
Supreme Court.
So they're doing things to me that they've never done before.
And again, I want to say it again, admitting now, in the closing arguments, they pointed at me and they said, Take away his microphone.
Silence him.
Never let him build his platform again.
Take him out.
And when we're done taking him out, we're going to take out all the disinformation.
And again, that means the people that are telling the truth that are popular.
Libertarian, conservative, Christian, populist media has high 60s ratings across the country in polls.
The corporate media has the lowest approval rating of even Congress, less than 10% on average.
So you have a dead, dying corporate media that thinks it can roll out this new program of suing people in Soros-controlled Democrat jurisdictions where they then rig the jury by allowing the jury questions, do you feel Alex Jones has ever been treated unfairly by the media? Do you think it's okay if we give $100 million?
And my lawyers try to say, no, you can't ask those questions.
That's rigging the jury.
And the judge said, we're asking those questions.
So they rigged the jury with the questions.
They'd already found me guilty.
They already fined me over a million and a half dollars here, a half million dollars in Connecticut.
It is just a feeding frenzy of raping the hell out of me, but I'm not a victim.
If I was in prison or dead right now, it'd be a good price to pay to take these folks on.
I feel blessed that I'm the first they're coming after, because at least when you're the first they attack, it gets some attention.
But after they de-platformed me four years ago and admitted then it was the model for everybody else, then we didn't hear about everybody else until it was Steve Bannon and President Trump.
And Trump did speak out against it.
You did speak out against it, because you were smart enough to know that we all hang together or hang separate.
Plus, you care about freedom of speech.
This is the enemy's next big move of weaponized warfare.
steve bannon
Alex, hang on.
We're taking a short commercial break.
We're going to turn with Alex Jones.
Remember, we say there's no conspiracies but no coincidences.
In the most important midterm since 1862, Alex Jones has two trials in September.
One a couple weeks long in Texas, the other eight weeks long in Connecticut.
Is that just by random chance?
The great reset in the war for the world next with Alex Jones.
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steve bannon
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Look, in a year of big books, you had the Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
book on Fauci, over a million sales.
You had Dr. Naomi Wolf with her book, The Body of Others, Peter Navarro in Trump time, and my favorite, Lords of Easy Money by Christopher Allen about the Federal Reserve.
Really, the biggest book of the year is about to hit.
It's the Great Reset and the War for the World.
It really encapsulates 20 or 30 years of research.
But a piercing intellect.
You know, Alex, I want to get to the trials in a second, but on the book, when we did the first interview with you, the thing that the left and the mainstream media melted down most about, and I think you're on for 40 or 45 minutes, was when I said, hey, you got to go back to the revolutionary generation.
And what I said is that they're very unique because it's kind of been bifurcated since then.
The revolutionary generation really had a group of thinkers who were also men of action, right?
Whether it's the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, or actually fighting the Revolutionary War.
And I said, this is what Alex Jones, Alex Jones is really a man of action, but he also happens to have a piercing intellect.
You may not like that.
He may come, you know, he may not have your political beliefs, but man, they locked down there.
And one of the best things you've said about how you fight and thwart the Great Reset and the globalists is, I think it's three things.
Number one is to read constantly, to be a voracious reader.
Number two is to sharpen your memory and make sure you remember.
And number three is to be kind to others.
You say that these are the things you see in the modern world where you actually think that the globalists are winning.
Can you give us some details of that?
What do you mean by that?
alex jones
A lot of people are waking up.
But a lot of folks are basically going into a trance.
They're being lazy.
They're not caring about others.
And people are taught, well, only caring about yourself will get you ahead.
But when people don't stand up for each other, then it's very easy to pick us off one by one.
And so as this multinational group of anti-free market monopoly capitalists, Consolidate control.
They're able to do it because they've been atomizing us and dividing us and conquering us and basically have allowed us to give up the social contract of what made America so great.
And if you go back to the founding fathers, they didn't just have great intellects.
They weren't just incredible scholars.
They didn't just have courage.
They were in another great turning.
They happened to live in the flowering of 300 years of the Renaissance At a time that they were in a nation that was ready to be born, and all of the elements were there for this nation to spring forth.
And I think we're at that crossroads again, if people realize there is a war for the future, there is a war for the world, and the globalists call it the end of history, where they will have total control over society and submit their authoritarian, high-tech transhumanism.
And so, the way transhumanism gets control of us is it trains us to be And to go along with Bill Gates saying, hey, if we kill an old lady and don't give her medical care, we can hire 10 teachers.
That idea of a cannibalistic society versus a renaissance society is what I was trying to get at in the book and different mindsets of the future.
Do we go back to the pagan system where the young sacrifice for the old?
Or do we go back to what came after that?
The Christian and Judaic Christian system, where the old sacrifice for the young, instead of the young sacrificing for the old.
And it really just comes back to this neo-paganism that is globalism.
steve bannon
I want to read one of the definitions from the book that I find striking.
This is from the book.
This is your definition.
A globalist is a member of the global corporate combine that is attempting to establish an authoritarian world government whose eventual aim of the world government is to be able to carry out a transhumanist revolution that results in the death of the vast majority of the world population, and out of that cataclysm, a new super race.
So when people sit there and go, hey, this guy is kind of a wild man, throws his things out.
Walk me through your data sets and your evidence that backs up what a globalist is.
alex jones
Well, the reason I call him a globalist is when I was reading into this in the 90s, when I was right out of high school, starting to take some local college courses, I was reading Zbigniew Brzezinski's books.
I was reading Carol Quigley's books.
And then I was reading some of the more modern books.
That we're quoting the UN saying we're creating a globalist system, not a global system, not a man of the world, citizen of the world where you can travel anywhere, do anything.
That's all great when nations individually create those networks independently through grassroots action, not through a centralized controlled system.
And so a globalist is Someone that believes in transhumanism, that believes in depopulation, that believes that the majority of the public are worthless, and they want to use their corporate power to basically get control of humanity and get control of the medical system and the educational system and the banking system to bring in a social credit score to be able to social engineer At a level never before seen.
And my film, Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement, is still free online.
People can go find it.
They censored a lot of places.
It had 80-something million views on Google Video the first year it came out until they got rid of Google Video.
It had another 20 million views on a YouTube channel until they took that down.
But you can still find it on YouTube, but they do suppress it.
Endgame, Blueprint for Global Enslavement.
And if you watch that two and a half hour film, It's much like the first few chapters of the book.
It shows quotes, it shows clips, it shows who they are.
And so to understand who the globalist is, I've got a few minutes, it goes back to Plato, as I said last week on the show or two weeks ago, who said, there are too many people, we need to depopulate.
So that idea kind of gets created by Plato.
And then it gets passed on to Sir Francis Galton and people like Malthus in England, who thought there were too many people and thought that they should get rid of the poor.
And so the British royal family and some of the big money powers began to finance social systems, social sciences to learn how to get control of the population.
They began to study the brain.
They developed the theory of psychology.
And they then developed, again, the modern theory of eugenics, and Cecil Rhodes, who ran the British Empire, wrote books about this, and so did one of their big thinkers, H.G.
Wells, who wrote the book The New World Order, which was non-fiction, describing a scientific dictatorship of the future that would control breeding, that would control the caste you were in, that would control whether you lived or not, and they would quote the Spartans, who if a baby was to form, would throw it off a cliff, and they said, we're going to take that to the next level, and so out of that
That root system and that trunk of British-funded eugenics, you get the American eugenics movement, you get the European eugenics movement, the Japanese, the Mexican movement, a lot of movements.
It was the dominant force by the mid-30s.
Hitler and the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, funded by the Cold Springs Harbor Rockefeller Foundation.
This is all on record in IBM and the Holocaust.
I think it's a Pulitzer Prize-winning book last time I checked.
That exposed how Hitler was like a branch of this group, but he only targeted certain groups, whereas the eugenicists were going to target what they saw as the subhuman in every group.
And then after World War II, Hitler gives eugenics a bad name.
So Julian Huxley, the brother of Aldous Huxley, who headed up the United Nations UNESCO program, who'd been the head of the World Eugenics Society, said in the late 40s in papers that are public, we're going to change our name from the World Population Control Group and Eugenics Group to the Transhumanist Group.
And so that's why if you read Brave New World, Written in 32 that's fiction.
It looks like what's happening now because Julian Huxley and Aldous Huxley came out of the school of Francis Galton, were actually directly related to him in a public elite breeding program that started in the 1850s between the Huxleys, the Wedgewoods, the Galtons, The Blairs and some of the others.
And George Orwell, Eric Blair, was actually related to these guys as well.
So they had at least four generations of inbreeding to try to create the Superman or the Ubermenschen that Hitler was obsessed with.
And in most cases, it created insane people and folks with very serious deformities and mental retardation.
But in a few cases, it did create 200 IQ supergeniuses.
And so that's the group then that they developed with a secret breeding program that was later made public that created much of the modern world.
They pioneered the discovery of DNA.
They pioneered the discovery of the development of computers.
IBM and Thomas Watson created computers for race mixing studies or their eugenic studies they were doing.
That's all on record.
And so this is a scientific mad scientist group that has sustained for the public, that works in 50 and 100 year plans, who are in a war for the future, a war for the world, who are stealing the future and stealing our destinies.
If we don't wake up to the fact they've already run away with the ball, with the horrible nightmare depopulation system where they are bad scientists, dictators, ruling over us as if we're just guinea pigs.
steve bannon
We've got about a minute.
You keep talking about the Great Awakening, and you've also said people are in a trance, almost like asleep.
How has the general population, how have they got them in a trance-like state, where they focus on frivolity and really the bread and circuses, but not actually the reality of their own lives?
We've got about a minute.
Give us your thoughts on that.
alex jones
Well, I hope we can talk about it more, because this is the key.
If you look at major studies, and I know you read a lot, you'll know this, but the listeners should look into it, Most people now are two or three times more susceptible to being suggestible than people were, say, in 1960.
And so the average person is very susceptible.
They can't differentiate subconsciously between fiction and nonfiction.
And because there's so many wild events in fiction, Their brain sees horrific stuff as non-threatening because they've seen so many actions of violence and so much propaganda and sex and porn that then they can't differentiate that from the real world.
So when a real threat comes, they can't recognize it because their mind has basically been desensitized.
But also brainwaves, especially in the Western world, the more screen time, the more TV time, the more non-interactive screen time.
Screen time as interactive as shown is actually good, but one way suspended disbelief Television and media consumption puts you into an almost dreamlike brainwave where you're daydreaming and extremely hypnotizable.
steve bannon
Hang on one second.
Short commercial break.
We'll return with Alex Jones about the book The Great Reset.
We're also going to bring in the filmmaker of the blockbuster documentary Alex's War.
unidentified
Alex Moyer, next in The War Room.
alex jones
The story you're about to see is true.
This is reality.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
I'm the most banned, most demonized media person in the world.
unidentified
Alex Jones is a fake.
He's a performance artist.
I'm perceived as a clown, a nut, a maniac.
On his website, InfoWars, he touted paranoia porn.
The sickest, most offensive theories.
hillary clinton
Alex Jones claims that 9-11 and the Oklahoma City bombings were inside jobs.
alex jones
Don't you stand for America, sir?
unidentified
He said me and Hillary are demons.
alex jones
Ain't that something?
You'll burn in hell!
I met him back in 1990.
I knew right away he was gonna be a star.
steve bannon
How's my hair look?
alex jones
I saw all these conspiracy terrorists that were talking about the New World Order.
And I thought, that's what I'll do.
unidentified
Get in there, Alex.
alex jones
Death to the New World Order!
It was that attack on humanity that I saw early on that I really wanted to wage war on.
You're lying to the public!
unidentified
It's disgusting!
alex jones
Well, she tastes that.
unidentified
There's no going back.
Everything's a war.
alex jones
That's the way the universe works, and everything is propaganda.
I don't trust Donald Trump, but I agree with probably 95% of what Donald Trump says.
Your reputation's amazing.
steve bannon
I will not let you down.
alex jones
That's what the media loves all about.
unidentified
Alex Jones said the Sandy Hook shooting, which claimed the lives of 20 children, was fake.
I try to tell the truth and sometimes I'm wrong.
Did the New York Times get in trouble for consciously lying about WMDs that then led to a war that killed tens of thousands in conflict?
alex jones
No.
unidentified
The attempts to de-platform us have failed.
alex jones
They'd have the CIA, the FBI following me around.
Now we've got to destroy Alex Jones.
We're not playing games here.
steve bannon
This is such a historic moment.
alex jones
It's all just insane.
Okay, let's put me in prison for questioning, okay?
Even though that's my right.
In fact, let's execute Alex Jones.
unidentified
Let's put me in front of a firing squad, pull the trick.
I have a sick feeling, actually.
Because I know what comes next.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
You're in War Room.
It's a Saturday special we're doing today.
For the whole two hours we have Alex Jones with us.
Now I want to bring in Alex Sawyer, a brilliant filmmaker.
You know, it's very rare in life, Brother Jones, you have a huge trial that draws global attention.
You have a huge book.
That's going to come out really in the next couple of weeks that really summarizes your thinking over your lifetime as a provocateur and as a cutting-edge thinker, and then to have a blockbuster film on top of it.
I want everybody to make sure we go.
We're going to put up all the sites that you can get this film.
You have to see it, even if you want to spit on the floor.
In fact, particularly if you want to spit on the floor at the sound of Alex Jones' name, this is the film you ought to see.
Alex Soria, knowing how involved it is in filmmaking, how you actually have to go in and just dedicate your entire being, why at this time in the country's history and the world history would you choose Alex Jones to be a subject, ma'am?
alex lee moyer
Well, also, hi Alex.
Well, it seems like kind of a no-brainer to me with everything that's going on in the world.
And of course, Alex manages to make headlines just about every week in all of the mainstream publications.
And there seems to be an unspoken rule about who's allowed to talk about Alex Jones and what they're allowed to say about Alex Jones.
I just thought maybe it was about time that somebody put Alex within his context and also start talking about the story arc of Alex Jones and how we got to this place.
He's sort of a mascot for a lot of the things that we see sort of culminating right now in the culture wars in America.
steve bannon
But isn't that the hit on it?
You know, Donald Trump makes news every day, but Donald Trump's a terrible guy.
Alex Jones makes news.
He's a terrible guy.
Steve Bannon, Tucker Carlson.
All they do is just yell fire in the theater.
They just yell fire in the theater.
So it's easy for those guys.
And a serious filmmaker like you comes along and all you do is give your being and your purpose and your platform to take a, you know, what they would say is a charlatan, which they say is not just a charlatan, but a bad guy and a charlatan.
And you actually now, Take him up because this is a very serious movie.
You've actually taken him up a notch.
What do you say about the blue check Twitter that says that about you as a filmmaker?
alex lee moyer
I don't think about those people at all.
I don't see those people as being on the vanguard of anything interesting that's happening culturally.
If anything, I think that, you know, the institutions of Hollywood and the media have become stagnant at best and sort of rotten at worst.
So I'm interested more in making the kind of films that inspired me to start making films in the first place, films from the 70s, observational cinema, films about complicated topics and larger than life stories.
I don't need permission from Hollywood or corporations to make that kind of work.
I've been making my own work for years and years.
I'm grateful that people are taking attention and that this film is doing well, but I care more about just having purpose in my life and telling important stories.
This is an important story.
steve bannon
So, why is it an important story?
In world history today, right, with what you have going on in the world economically, geopolitically, culturally, here in the United States, every day some mainstream, you know, the Atlantic magazine or the New York Times Sunday magazines talk about we're heading to civil war because you have all these xenophobic, nativist, white, Christian nationalists that are driving the country to their ruin.
What is the importance of this film now?
And as a filmmaker, what did you learn in the making of it?
alex lee moyer
Um, I think that's an important observation.
Uh, the truth is that a lot of America and some may argue a majority of Americans have been sort of demonized in the media.
Um, and the people on the left right now are sort of using fear as the main driving force for their platform.
And they're telling you that people all over middle America are, You know, a white supremacist or xenophobic or, you know, there's a lot of people that are being mischaracterized.
And I didn't go into making this film thinking that I was going to unearth anything, you know, anything really revelatory about that.
But that's what ended up happening, is that the movie really isn't just about Alex.
It really does shine a light on the populist movement in America.
You don't have to necessarily consider yourself to be a populist or even agree with populism, but you can see plainly that it has been mischaracterized, especially in terms of demographics.
So that's one thing that I'm really proud of that this movie puts on display.
steve bannon
When you watch the film, and particularly given the intensity of it, and I recommend strongly everybody see this film, both supporters of Alex Jones and the populist nationalist right, but more importantly, your friends and colleagues that are centrist or really low information voters, it's quite revelatory.
One of the things, do you believe that, I don't want to say sympathetic, But in coming through this at the end, do you think the movie's empathetic about, because I see when I see it, you see a guy that's a fighter that's never going to back down.
He's got a lot of flaws like everybody in the world, right?
And some of these flaws are highlighted given the sense that he's a world historical figure.
But do you think the film, did you set out to make an empathetic film?
Because at the end, and this is why I think blue-check Twitter hates it, is that you didn't go out to absolutely destroy him and just show everything negative.
You showed the whole, you showed all of it.
And in showing all of it, you kind of have some empathy for Alex Jones and his cause and his mission at the end of it.
Is that what you intended to do?
alex lee moyer
Well, I didn't know Alex personally going into the film.
I knew enough about him to be interested in him for a long time and want to make a film about him just because I think he's a really charismatic, iconoplastic person.
I've always been fascinated by those kinds of Americans.
I don't believe in demonizing my subjects.
And I don't think it would take a genius to realize that Alex If you just spend any time actually observing him in an honest way, that he's not a mean-spirited person.
He is actually a kind of passionate and open-hearted person, and so I always knew that that would shine through, but I didn't really have any particular agenda when I set out to make the film.
I just made the film that I got.
I went and I shot what I shot, and I do think that there is a redemption arc to the story, but I think that there's a redemption arc possible in everybody's life, no matter what character it is.
There was never a moment where I wanted to make another CNN take or an HBO take on Alex Jones.
You can go and watch that kind of thing about him anywhere.
I did want to make something that was a more dimensional, nuanced character study.
And I still think that even for people that don't like him or disagree with him, that they can go and see the film and they can come away with their biases intact if they so choose.
But yeah, I just wanted to show him for what he's really like.
steve bannon
Let me, let me, I think it reveals that.
And we talk about the structure of this is very much along the lines of Joseph Campbell's The Hero's Journey.
Talk to us about what is the redemption arc of Alex Jones in your film?
alex lee moyer
Well, the film also sort of takes on a life of its own, right?
So it's, there is, there is some artistic license.
And uh.
I I just feel that no matter what any perception is of what Alex has done or what he's said or that he ultimately is somebody who is
steve bannon
You came to that conclusion in the making of the film, or did you go in with that as a precept?
Did you go in as a filmmaker, open-minded, and you came to that conclusion after studying him, being with him, and studying his work?
alex lee moyer
As a documentary filmmaker, and since I don't work for a big studio, and since I kind of call all my own shots on my films, I don't go in with preconceived notions about what my film is going to be like.
And since I edit my own films, I go in, I shoot what I shoot, and I let the story sort of reveal itself.
This was the story that revealed itself to me.
But no, I didn't have any preconceived notions about how I was going to put a bow on it at the end.
This is just what I felt was the spiritual direction that the film needed to take at the end, and so I did it.
steve bannon
For people out there, that's a real filmmaker.
Someone that not only directs, but also shoots and edits.
That's the auteur.
Let's play cut one.
Let's play cut one, the intro cut.
alex jones
Hello, I'm Alex Jones, and I'm a radio and television host based in Austin, Texas.
And for many years, I've been exposing the criminal activities of the global elite, also known as the New World Order.
My research has covered such topics as the militarization of police, the attack on America's national sovereignty, the destruction of private property rights, the family, All of these institutions must be destroyed before the establishment can create their ultimate dream, a one-world government absolutely ruled by despotic criminals hell-bent on micromanaging our lives.
The story you're about to see is true.
All of it is verifiable and documented.
From the news articles to the actual first time to be ever seen video from inside.
So I don't want you to just chuck it off as wild conspiracy theories.
This is reality.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
steve bannon
Incredibly powerful.
Alex, sorry, we're going to go to break.
We'd ask you to stay with us through the break with Alex Jones.
Real quickly, how long from start to finish did it take you to make this film?
alex lee moyer
It took about a year and a half and then about six months of sort of preparation and maybe trying to convince Alex that he should be a part of the film.
steve bannon
Two years of this.
OK, we're going to take a short commercial break.
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steve bannon
Welcome back to our special, and the filmmaker, the great filmmaker, is actually Alex Moyer.
unidentified
Wow.
steve bannon
It's a Saturday, so what can I say?
Alex, how did you talk Alex Jones into actually participating in this film?
I take it you guys had no previous relationship?
alex lee moyer
No.
It ended up happening because I had appeared, well, My plan had been even before I finished my previous film TFW No GF, I knew that I wanted to somehow make a film about Alex if I got the opportunity.
And I was able to get on his show as a guest in 2020.
To promote that film, and I just knew some other people that knew him, including Ali Alexander, who introduced me to him, and Amanda Milius helped out, JJ Eisenman, my producer.
Many people kind of, you know, bridged that, and I was able to strike up a relationship with him, and they let him know that I wasn't going to do him dirty.
steve bannon
Amanda Milius, that's a hellcat, a war room regular on my head.
Two years of your life into this film, was it worth it?
alex lee moyer
Absolutely.
I mean, it was something that I That felt very out of reach when I came up with it, and I was able to put it together.
Alex didn't want to do the film at first, and he said no to the film probably about three times before I was able to do it.
Famously, he told me that Werner Herzog had asked to make a film about him, and he had turned him down.
So it was an honor for me to tell the story of a very, very famous American.
I think that the film is going to be well-revered in years to come.
steve bannon
No, we want everybody to see it.
We're pushing it out on all our platforms.
It's a must-see, Alex's War, by the great filmmaker, Auteur, Alex Moyer.
unidentified
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
I want to ask, Alex Jones, why, what was it about this filmmaker, because I know you get approached all the time, what was it about Alex Moyer that you agreed to actually participate in what you didn't know was going to be a hit piece, how it was going to turn out?
Why did you open yourself up to do this, sir?
alex jones
Well, I know that she won some big awards at South by Southwest, even from the liberals.
And I had dinner with her and sort of her crew and liked them.
But I just said, I'm just too exhausted.
And I just can't have the distraction of you at the office whenever you want for, she said, probably a year and a half.
And I just said, listen, I'm sorry.
I said, you can make your film.
I'll give you maybe one interview, maybe.
But I said, that's it.
I just, I'm just, I'm too busy.
And we get distracted with other projects in the past, bringing some other projects.
But over a decade ago, it got me off track.
But then It was Amanda Millis, whose father, of course, is the conservative icon of icons and filmmakers, wrote Apocalypse Now, the Dirty Harry movies, Red Dawn, and the list goes on and on, Conan the Barbarian.
She's a giant.
And so she approached me and said, why aren't you doing this film at dinner?
And she said, this is a really big filmmaker, and she's going to be really fair, and you need to do it.
I said, all right, I'll go ahead.
It was Amanda Millis who finally got me to do it, because she's such a giant, and I knew she was for real.
And she was working with the State Department then, and so I said, sure, we'll do it.
steve bannon
Amanda was in the Trump administration.
Her father's a giant.
You know, Big Wednesday, all these great films.
Really, Big Wednesday was kind of the John Ford of surfing.
This guy's a giant.
And the daughter is incredibly talented.
Let's play.
Can we play Cut 2?
I think we've got time.
Let's play Cut 2.
alex jones
Everything's a war.
I mean, that's the way the universe works.
There are competing forces that are trying to dominate.
And everything is propagandic.
The general public doesn't realize they're under attack by information.
And so I want people to become aware of propaganda and how it operates in the Infowar.
So we call ourselves really what it all is.
unidentified
You guys know who he is?
You know how it sounds, Infowar?
Alex Jones is a fake.
He's a performance artist.
john oliver
The Walter Cronkite of shrinking bat-ass gorilla clowns.
unidentified
On his website, InfoWars, he touts what many would say are offensive claims.
Paranoia porn.
We're talking about somebody who trafficked some of the sickest, most offensive types of earrings.
I'm perceived as a clown.
I'm perceived as a nut.
I'm perceived as a maniac.
Technocracy is dead on arrival!
alex jones
I'm the most banned, most demonized media person in the world.
I've had tens of thousands of articles written, hundreds and hundreds of TV reports, every major national program you could name, every major publication.
unidentified
I don't feel sorry for myself being persecuted like this.
This is what happens when you get successful and you're over the target.
The Lord works in mysterious ways.
alex jones
They thought it would hurt me.
unidentified
All those jokes, all those attacks we've learned actually get the general public actually tuned into the main show.
alex jones
It's quite frankly pretty dark and pretty depressing.
steve bannon
The film is Alex War, the filmmaker is Alex Moyer.
Alex, in the minute or so we've got left, why should people, in all their busy schedules, when they've got everything else in the world to do, and they've got all the streaming services of Yellowstone and all this other fiction, why should they take time and a couple hours out of their life and a few bucks to watch your film, ma'am?
alex lee moyer
Well, like Alex says in the film, truth is stranger than fiction, and you're not going to get a straight story on somebody like Alex.
Unless you see this film, and you can really see a lot of true-life representations of the things that the news talks about all the time, and you can see them perceived in a more authentic light.
And through seeing things in authentic light, maybe we can reach sort of a greater understanding about how to conquer some of these obstacles that we're facing now in the culture wars.
steve bannon
Alex Moyer, how do people get to this film right now?
Where are they supposed to go today and tell their friends to go to actually see it?
alex lee moyer
iTunes, Amazon, YouTube, and if you want to support some of the smaller, more alternative platforms, it's also on Rockfin, Odyssey, Locals, and Rumble.
steve bannon
And do you have any social media people you can go to?
alex lee moyer
Sure, you can go to Alex's War on Twitter.
I'm on Instagram, and of course you can pick up the DVD on InfoWars as well.
steve bannon
Alex Moyer, great job.
Short 90-second break.
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