July 29, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| This is why this audience is going to have to get engaged. | ||
| As we've told you, this is the fight. | ||
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all this nonsense, all this spin, they can't handle the truth. | |
| War Room Battleground. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Thursday, 28 July, the year of our Lord 2022, you're in the battleground. | ||
| I've got my co-host for the hour is going to be Brian Kennedy, one of the founders of the Committee on the Present Danger of China, also a former head of Claremont, and which has been under the, supposedly be under attack recently, but the New York Times article is kind of a paid advertisement. | ||
| In addition, the head of the American Strategies Group. | ||
| Brian, thank you very much for joining us today. | ||
| We're going to get, we're going to go through a bunch of candidates, talk to Richard Barris about polling he's doing. | ||
| But I got a question. | ||
| What is your, earlier today, You know, we had the announcement of, you know, 0.9% growth in the second quarter, and all day long it's been nothing but spin from the administration. | ||
| We're not in a recession. | ||
| This is just a slowing. | ||
| It may, you know, may be trending towards the recession. | ||
| It may fuel a recession like the negative. | ||
| What is your sense of, one, where the economy is, and number two, the messaging that the Biden regime is putting out about it? | ||
| Well, the Biden administration seems to be engaged in a massive effort to, uh, simply deceive the American people. | ||
| President Trump the other day called it not misinformation, but disinformation. | ||
| And I think these, uh, the way they're playing with numbers and playing with terms and when you actually have a recession saying it's not a recession, they, uh, It's a kind of gaslighting that I think the American people are tired of. | ||
| And any decent free person would want the straight story from his government, and he's not getting it today. | ||
| I think the economy is in trouble today. | ||
| And I think people are very uncertain about what's going on. | ||
| And all this talk about workers and where they are in the economy, I think should be something that Americans are very concerned about. | ||
| I'm not sure we really understand everything we have done to harm the U.S. | ||
| economy from two years of dealing with the China virus. | ||
| Let me ask you, I know you advise a lot of companies and corporations and heads of companies. | ||
| What is your sense when you talk to people making decisions, capital investment, expansion, adding people, because they keep falling back on, oh, everybody's got a job, you got help wanted signs everywhere. | ||
| I don't see it like that. | ||
| I think right now you've got a real tendency of big techs laying off a lot of people, consumers laying off people, retails laying off people. | ||
| I think they're wrestling past the graveyard in these employment numbers. | ||
| And what's your sense in talking to decision makers? | ||
| Well, a lot of folks, I believe, just simply see that they're going to wait and not do anything. | ||
| They're not investing money right now. | ||
| They're not hiring people right now, unless you're in the service parts of the economy, which still need people. | ||
| But the bigger, more important, more higher paying jobs, I think people are stopping and they're not. | ||
| I think businesses right now are going to take a hard look on whether they're going to expand because they're not getting the straight story from the Biden administration. | ||
| There's a great deal of uncertainty. | ||
| The Biden administration is creating more uncertainty and that's not a great environment to try to run a business. | ||
| So I do think that's real, a real concern. | ||
| And those people People who are working in the service parts of the economy, one wonders how long they're going to do that for if the government's going to pay them to stay home. | ||
| I talk to a lot of entrepreneurs who they hire people, they work for a few months and they go back on unemployment. | ||
| They're workers. | ||
| And that's not a sound way of running any kind of economy. | ||
| But you see that throughout the country today. | ||
| Well, let's go out, let's go out to the Hussings. | ||
| Let's go to Arizona. | ||
| Eli Crane. | ||
| Eli just recently got the President Trump. | ||
| Eli, tell us how, uh, why did President Trump endorse you? | ||
| What, what, what's your feeling of why it's a very competitive race, uh, all throughout the country. | ||
| He doesn't really endorse that many people. | ||
| Why did he, why did he endorse Eli Crane? | ||
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Well, Steve, thanks for having me. | |
| I appreciate it. | ||
| I think the reason he supported us and endorsed us was because we've shown Uh, not just in our military service, but even in our business and now running this campaign that we are hardcore conservative, America first, and we are, you know, we're fighters out here. | ||
| And I think that, uh, the Trump administration is tired of the same old mod, mod one politician with the blue suit and the, you know, the, uh, American flag, you know, uh, pendant on his, uh, on his suit that says all the right talking points, but at the End of the day, it's part of the Uniparty, and America last and not America first, so we're honored to have his endorsement, Steve. | ||
| Let's just talk to Brian Kennedy about this announcement of Day of Recession. | ||
| When you go throughout your district, what are folks saying about the economy out there when you're going out and meeting people? | ||
| Because I know yours is a grassroots organization. | ||
| You're knocking on a lot of doors. | ||
| You work in phone banks. | ||
| What are folks telling Eli Crane their thoughts on the economy? | ||
| Are they debating you on the esoteric nature of a recession? | ||
| Is it two-quarters of down or is it trending down? | ||
| What are the hard-working folks out in Arizona saying about it? | ||
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No, they know exactly what's going on. | |
| They know that we're in a recession. | ||
| They know that this administration continues to lie about everything from what's really going on at the border, you know, to what's going on in our elections, what's going on in the economy. | ||
| They don't trust this administration and that's why they want change. | ||
| Talk to me about the district. | ||
| What's your sense of this district? | ||
| Tell me how it's going out there, how the economy's going out there. | ||
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You know, this is an amazing district, Steve. | |
| We have some of the most beautiful territory in Arizona. | ||
| We've got Flagstaff, Sedona, Prescott, Yavapai County, Pinetop, Show Low. | ||
| It's a beautiful area, and it even comes down south of Phoenix. | ||
| You know, the folks out here are really concerned. | ||
| They're concerned about the border. | ||
| They're concerned about our elections. | ||
| They're tired of radical leftists destroying the country, but they're equally as tired of rhinos that do nothing about it. | ||
| And that's why they're willing to, you know, look past the traditional looking, sounding, talking politicians. | ||
| And they're looking for real warriors and real fighters. | ||
| And that's why we're hoping to represent this district. | ||
| And that's why we're so proud to have the Trump endorsement. | ||
| And just this week, we actually got the Jim Jordan endorsement as well, Steve. | ||
| So we are, we are doing really well. | ||
| And we're really proud of this campaign. | ||
| New York Times had a big article the other day that said that Arizona, these primaries are probably the most important that are going to come for the whole Trump movement and for really the future direction of the Republican Party. | ||
| And what they said is that you're seeing a real class distinction. | ||
| That MAGA, America First, this Trump movement, and the candidates that are coming up, you know, was it Abe Hamadei for Attorney General, Carrie Lake. | ||
| Mark Fincham for Secretary of State, yourself, and Congress Royce, couple of the other folks running for Congress. | ||
| Really, Trump has galvanized a working class, middle class movement that wants real action for the working class and middle class and no more nonsense. | ||
| And you've got also in Arizona, because of the history of the state, Very vested interest in real estate, banking, finance, really from the McCain-Ducey establishment part of the party. | ||
| What's your sense of that? | ||
| Is the New York Times right? | ||
| Do we actually have kind of a class thing going here between the MAGA movement, your supporters, and the vested interest in banking and real estate in Arizona? | ||
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Absolutely, Steve. | |
| And I think that you could really see The difference this last week when Pence had a rally and Trump had a rally, I believe there were only a couple hundred people that showed up for Pence's rally. | ||
| And that had more of your moderate establishment Republicans show up for it. | ||
| And then up in, you know, the Prescott Valley area, we had President Trump show up. | ||
| I think we had about 5,000 people show up to that rally. | ||
| It was massive. | ||
| It was huge. | ||
| And to your point, Steve, you always talk about Arizona being the railhead of the country. | ||
| It is. | ||
| We showed that with the audit. | ||
| I think you're going to see that again. | ||
| Come up this next Tuesday and, you know, the MAGA movement, the America First movement is where the momentum of the Republican Party is, thanks to President Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Eli, people want to know, find out more about you, but they specifically want to know, because we're in the final hours, final days of this race, how they get to you, where you're going to be speaking, what you're going to be doing as far as events. | ||
| So where do people go to find out more as we grind through this over this weekend and then to Tuesday next week? | ||
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Yeah, thanks, Steve. | |
| If you want to find out more about us, where we're going to be, all they have to do is go to eli4arizona.com. | ||
| We appreciate all the support from this audience and we love what you're doing, Steve. | ||
| Thank you so much for teaching us about action, action, action. | ||
| Kyle, Eli, thank you so much. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| We're going to have everybody. | ||
| I look forward to having you back on this weekend. | ||
| I think there's going to be a big seminar, and I think it's going to be out, I thought it was going to be out in Arizona on voter integrity. | ||
| Laura Logan's going to be out there. | ||
| We're going to hook into a lot of people. | ||
| So we'll make sure we get you over the weekend. | ||
| I know you're going to be working hard. | ||
| Eli Crane out in Arizona, too. | ||
| Remember, Eli's a Trump-endorsed candidate for the House of Representatives for Congress. | ||
| Eli Crane, thank you very much. | ||
| Brian Kenney, let me go back to you for a second before I go to my next guest. | ||
| You've spent more time in Arizona, really, as a senior Trump associate out there. | ||
| Is the New York Times right? | ||
| Is this thing really galvanized? | ||
| I call Arizona the railhead of the Trump movement. | ||
| even given Texas and Florida and Tennessee and all these great MAGA states we have, Arizona is the hardest core of the hard core. | ||
| And the Times has ascertained that there's a class thing going on, that you have a worker-based, a very diverse, inclusive nationalism, participatory populism, you got Dan Schultz out there, you got all these people out there, the precinct strategy. | ||
| It's really come from, it's a bottoms-up grassroots movement that supports America First with Trump. | ||
| And then you've got the vested interests of the people that have put the capital to work over many, many decades in Arizona, the banking establishment, the financial establishment, the real estate interest, really personified by McCain and Ducey and that crowd. | ||
| Do you buy that assessment? | ||
| I certainly agree that there's a divide. | ||
| The reason Arizona is so important is because it was Arizona that Fox News called on election night for Joe Biden when everybody, and I mean everybody in the Arizona establishment, thought Donald Trump had won. | ||
| They were having, they were having caravans go through Arizona prior to November 8th, November 3rd, excuse me. | ||
| That were over a hundred miles long, just the enthusiasm for President Trump was off the charts. | ||
| So that when Fox News called it for Arizona, people were outraged. | ||
| They thought something was wrong and they knew that they were going to have to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| The thing about Arizona is you have working class Hispanics, you have White, black, brown, it is not about race. | ||
| It's about America. | ||
| It's a very popular, populist, pro-American state. | ||
| And so you're seeing this big debate going on between that MAGA candidate, the America first candidate, and the more traditional insider Republican like Doug Ducey and all the corporate supporters that he has. | ||
| And that divide, I think, is very, very real. | ||
| The interesting part, it seems to me, is that it does come down to workers. | ||
| That will the Republican party stand up for workers or just corporate interests? | ||
| Donald Trump showed how you could stand up for the American worker and defend corporations and American businesses. | ||
| So far, these Republican establishment types, all they care about is whatever the corporations want and the workers be damned. | ||
| And the time has come to change all that. | ||
| And I think to the extent that this Tuesday you have a big divide, I think you're going to see Real enthusiasm for the MAGA candidates, whether it's Kerry Lake, Mark Fincham, or whoever, that these are the people that represent everyday Arizonans. | ||
| I think there are also people who represent a new political establishment, and it's not about Republican, Democrat, or Independent. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It's not a new party, but it's a new representation of a political movement that, frankly, you've been leading here for the last two years, here in the war room. | ||
| And that's a very exciting thing, I think, for anybody who's watching American politics. | ||
| You can feel it. | ||
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There's that much enthusiasm out there. | |
| Let's go to Missouri. | ||
| They've got another huge primary on Tuesday. | ||
| This one's gotten really quite personal on a statewide level, particularly in the Senate race. | ||
| Kyle LeBue is running for the House. | ||
| Kyle, tell folks about this primary that's coming up. | ||
| It's one of the most important primaries. | ||
| Missouri is a hardcore Trump state. | ||
| You've got to come out of there with MAGA candidates. | ||
| We know you're the MAGA candidate out there. | ||
| Walk us through what's happening in the state right now as far as the sense of what Biden's done to the economy, where people's heads are at, and where the MAGA movement is. | ||
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So as we're out on the ground every day, we are just knocking doors, talking to people, and they're all asking us the same question. | |
| What are you going to do for us right away? | ||
| We're suffering from these gas prices. | ||
| It's getting crazy. | ||
| It seems like we've got a president that he doesn't only not ride a bike well, he isn't a good president. | ||
| He goes over to foreign nations and begs them for 50 cents off a gallon and acts like he's really won. | ||
| The American people need relief right away. | ||
| And so what we need to do is we need to remove the red tape and help these people right away. | ||
| And what I'm seeing from people is they're tired of the same establishment as always. | ||
| I'm the only candidate in the race that is fully ... I paid for this campaign out of my own pocket. | ||
| I'm fully funded. | ||
| I don't have any PAC money or anything behind me. | ||
| And we're doing it the old-fashioned way. | ||
| We've knocked over $30,000. | ||
| And people are recognizing that. | ||
| They're like, you actually are out here and you're actually trying. | ||
| You're looking us in the eyes and talking to us and asking us what we want. | ||
| And you can see a difference in our campaign versus other people's campaign. | ||
| And I think you're seeing that all over the country, that the people that are true magnate, they put in the work, you know? | ||
| You know, we're talking about numbers, whether we went 8 seats, 10 seats, 25 seats, 40, 50 seats. | ||
| What do you get the sense of people in the district of They're tired of just talk. | ||
| For instance, when you win, what types of action do they want to see the leadership in the house and what type of actions do you believe they want to see you as their representative take on? | ||
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I'll tell you something that they love about me is I have a plan right away to introduce a bill called one thing at a time. | |
| And it's really simple. | ||
| If we're talking about infrastructure, that's all we're talking about. | ||
| We're not talking about infrastructure and a thousand things behind it, all the way down to transgender reassignment, all this crazy stuff that they tack on these bills. | ||
| If you're talking about helping veterans or funding schools, whatever it be, it's one thing at a time. | ||
| We're only talking about that because people want transparency. | ||
| They don't want these special interest projects just flowing through on the backs of what American people need. | ||
| And so that's something that I would try to push right away. | ||
| One thing at a time. | ||
| If we're debating a bill, that's the only thing we're talking about. | ||
| So the American people know that we're not trying to slip anything past their eyes. | ||
| And I can tell you, as I have put that out there, it is really popular. | ||
| People say, we are ready for a transparency right now. | ||
| We don't want our eyes covered and told to be sitting in the corner, you know? | ||
| For instance, there's a chip spill up that now the Republicans are fighting, but it's got some good stuff in it, about $50 billion to actually bring the chip facilities back from Taiwan and bring them here. | ||
| But the Democrats and some Republicans have put another $200 billion of just corporate welfare on top of it. | ||
| Also, Manchin drops this Green New Deal bill, which I don't know, it's $400 billion in spending, and they say it's going to save all this money, but it looks like nonsense. | ||
| So you're talking about another $700 or $800 billion of spending just here in the last couple of hours, the last 24 hours, and the House leaves tomorrow and doesn't come back until September. | ||
| Do your folks feel like they're dialed into that? | ||
| Do you feel like in the district they understand of all the stuff that's going on in Washington, the scale of the spending, a trillion here, a trillion there. | ||
| You got the Federal Reserve. | ||
| Do they feel like anybody reaches out to them to say, hey, here's exactly what's going on? | ||
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Not only that, but they feel like they're not being heard. | |
| You know, we have career politicians that are bought up by corporations and foreign nations. | ||
| We have to get ahead of this fast. | ||
| People don't realize, or maybe they do, the danger that we have of foreign nations buying up supply chains and also family farms. | ||
| We've got legacy farms here in Missouri that foreign nations are trying to buy up constantly. | ||
| We've got to get in front of that. | ||
| I wouldn't be opposed to not letting them buy any of our food production in this country. | ||
| We don't want to be relying on other countries like we are right now for oil. | ||
| We need to get back to America first. | ||
| We need to drill in America. | ||
| We need to produce food in America. | ||
| We need to produce products in America. | ||
| And go back to what Trump was talking about, we need fair trade. | ||
| Nobody would stay in business if every time you were in business with somebody, you got ripped off. | ||
| And that's what's going on with the American people right now. | ||
| Kyle, how do people, particularly in the run-up to this, it's a very intense fight out there on every level, every primary, and statewide offices is brutal right now. | ||
| How do people find out more about you, specifically where they can get you, if you're going to be at events, how they follow you and get to meet you? | ||
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Kylabrew.com. | |
| We're going to be in Bolivar tonight. | ||
| We're doing the old school. | ||
| We're going to be in the park. | ||
| Come on out. | ||
| Bolivar, Missouri. | ||
| We'll be there. | ||
| There's an ice cream social. | ||
| We'll be talking about these things and more. | ||
| I want to hear your voice. | ||
| I want to hear what you guys need, because we're going to take it to Washington. | ||
| I'm your America First. | ||
| I'm not a career politician. | ||
| I'm a small business owner, and I'm a small town guy, and I'm tired of us not being represented in the media. | ||
| Kyle, thank you very much. | ||
| Say hi to the ice cream social tonight. | ||
| Tell them the boardroom's thinking about them, got their back, and love them. | ||
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I will. | |
| Thank you, Steve, for everything you're doing. | ||
| It's good to see you back on here. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| So, Brian, let me come back to you. | ||
| We got bearish with some very important polling on the economy. | ||
| Uh, you hear something like that and people in, in DC would have all scoff, we got to do 50 things at one time. | ||
| But you're hearing the people say, Hey, look, in particular, I think this, I think what's happened in the last 24 hours is illustrative. | ||
| You've got a, a 250 or $300 billion chip spill that started with something that I know you and I supported Navarro supported. | ||
| We got to get the chip plants from Taiwan back here is going to take obviously some capital, some underwriting. | ||
| I think it's $50 billion. | ||
| That part of that, the bill's $200 billion, $300 billion, it's got everything in it. | ||
| They've dumped, it's a crystal tree, they've hung everything on it. | ||
| Thin Mansion understands this, the strongest signal out there, I'll talk to Barris about this when he's on, the strongest signal that shows that they know that they're going to lose the Senate. | ||
| is mansion has a revelation last night and they behind the closed doors they've been negotiating this they drop a i don't know 400 billion 500 billion so we got you know 750 800 billion dollars in spending and he they supposedly have some tax taxes but who knows that ever gets implemented and it's so convoluted and so dense i i've been talking to people since last night really smart people They can't make out some of these bills. | ||
| They don't know how they all function. | ||
| Nobody's reviewing them. | ||
| So when the people in Missouri say, hey, how about this? | ||
| Kyle's a guy from a small town. | ||
| He's a little bit like Mr. Smith goes to Washington. | ||
| He says, how about this? | ||
| If we're going to do one of these, let's do one at a time. | ||
| If it's going to be big, we come back and explain it to people. | ||
| We have hearings. | ||
| We come back to the community, maybe have a couple of town halls. | ||
| Is that, can you govern like that in the modern world? | ||
| Are the sophisticates in Davos and New York and the City of London and Brussels and Washington DC say, that's the Rubes. | ||
| The problem we got is that's how Rubes think. | ||
| Brian Kennedy. | ||
| Yeah, that was very refreshing what Kyle had to say. | ||
| He's a real guy. | ||
| And Americans want real guys. | ||
| Not to bring everything back to Donald Trump, but Trump was a real guy. | ||
| He tried to approach everything based on common sense. | ||
| Just plain old American common sense. | ||
| That's what Kyle is talking about. | ||
| Washington today, and the media, you know, enables all this, tries to make everything sound way too complicated, as if everyday people can't understand it. | ||
| When in fact, you know, they can understand it. | ||
| I swear, the Democrats are really trying to take the country down in so many ways. | ||
| You don't want to exaggerate and say this is a communist takeover, but they are certainly motivated by the very worst intentions. | ||
| They think we can just keep on printing money this way and spending our way into some different position than we are today. | ||
| I mean, the country is not doing better, and yet they propose more spending as if that's going to make a difference. | ||
| The Republicans though, are the people who are disappointing me today. | ||
| Where are they explaining what is going on? | ||
| It's almost as if they think just by being quiet, the Biden administration is going to implode and they're going to win in the primaries and in November. | ||
| And that's not enough. | ||
| You've got to actually make a case to the American people and explain exactly what is going wrong with what the Biden administration is doing. | ||
| And so the Biden administration itself seems delusional that they're making a difference. | ||
| But the Republicans, unfortunately, also seem delusional to me that just sitting there on the sidelines, waiting for the Biden administration to implode is going to be enough. | ||
| They've got to start fighting. | ||
| Guys like Kyle, they're fighting. | ||
| Trump is fighting. | ||
| You know, Blake Masters in Arizona is fighting. | ||
| You need these kinds of guys out there getting into office and really making a difference. | ||
| You know, I think that's very wise, because everybody in the Republican side leadership, they're just saying, be quiet, don't say anything, it'll just all go away. | ||
| Before we go to break, we're going to bring Richard Burris, the great People's Pundit, upholster, talk about the economy, but I also want to talk to him about, next Tuesday is going to be brutal. | ||
| It's a big day for MAGA, it's a big day for America First, big day for the Republican Party and this country. | ||
| Let's go back to the CHIPS bill for a second. | ||
| You and I have supported strategically. | ||
| We've got a massive problem with the CHIPS. | ||
| We never should have let all the high-end CHIPS go overseas. | ||
| You know, Taiwan is Silicon Valley West. | ||
| You've got to defend it. | ||
| It started as a $50 billion, which is still a lot. | ||
| $30 to $50 billion for the CHIPS part alone is huge. | ||
| But it metastasized to $250 billion and nobody talked about it. | ||
| And now we're kind of presented with, oh, we don't support it. | ||
| And you had these bills out of control. | ||
| We got about a minute, Brian. | ||
| How does that happen without the Republican Party every day talking about something as important as bringing chips back here to the United States? | ||
| Well, look, our entire economy is based on these chips, unfortunately. | ||
| And the idea that we've let that be concentrated in Taiwan, and we love Taiwan. | ||
| They're an ally. | ||
| But the idea that we've let Taiwan be the main manufacturer of these, so close to Communist China, so vulnerable to Communist China, just means that American policymakers are not doing their jobs. | ||
| We should have been incentivizing businesses decades ago to build these industries here in America, and If not mandating it, really making it a very high priority of successive administrations to see this happen. | ||
| President Trump started it, but didn't have any support because all the corporate types in the Republican party were simply fine leaving these things offshore, when in fact you have to bring these things back to this country. | ||
| It's a really dire predicament we're in right now between the chips and medicine. | ||
| We've dropped the supply. | ||
| It's unbelievable. | ||
| Hang on for a second, Brian. | ||
| Brian Kennedy is my co-host for the hour. | ||
| We're going to bring in Richard Barris. | ||
| I think, if not the best bolster, one of the best bolsters out there. | ||
| He's going to talk about his polling on the economy. | ||
| We're also going to ask Richard about next Tuesday, kind of game day for MACCA. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back in the Battleground in just a moment. | ||
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War Room Battleground with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| Thursday, 28th of July, Year of the Lord 2022. | ||
| Brian Kennedy, formerly head of Claremont and now Chairman of the Committee on President of the United Nations, China, is my co-host. | ||
| I want to bring in Richard Barris, the People's Pundit. | ||
| Richard, I know you want to talk. | ||
| We've got a lot of stuff to talk about in economics in your polling, but you've been out, you've polled there, you've been all in these battleground states, you've been doing the polling. | ||
| The question I want to ask you, the New York Times had this fascinating article where they said, you're finally seeing it in high relief. | ||
| It's been in other states, but we've seen it in high relief that MAGA is a working class, populist, economic nationalist, and inclusive. | ||
| It's multiracial. | ||
| You've got a multi-ethnic, you've got a large Hispanic working class, middle class Hispanic component to it. | ||
| And in Arizona, it's coming down to very entrenched real estate, banking, the old guard, the old establishment, the Republican Party out there, kind of the McCain factor, now with Ducey, versus this uprising that's personified by people like Mark Benjamin. | ||
| And Eli Crane and Kerry Lake and uh and and and galvanize a lot like like Brian said by what happened out there on 3 November when you were our pollster that night uh and we saw we were sitting there going uh I don't really see why they called Arizona so quickly as you know uh there's a there's a memoir today says that uh coming out in a couple weeks it says Rupert Murdoch told the Trump campaign, oh you lost by, so the numbers are locked, and I think now we're down to 8,000 votes. | ||
| We know they're illegal too, so Trump actually won Arizona. | ||
| What's your sense as you go around the country, and particularly look for next Tuesday, has MAGA transformed the Republican Party, and particularly primary voters, into a working class, middle class, really political force that will really deliver come these primaries, sir? | ||
| Yeah, this is why that New York Times article is really important. | ||
| And when we released the CD Media Big Data Poll, Steve, I told people, look at a few things in those cross tabs. | ||
| Look at age, look at race, and look at generation. | ||
| The fact is, the Pence wing of the party, the Ducey wing of the party, they're hoping that nothing but older white voters who are third generation and more come out. | ||
| Because if anybody below the age of 64 comes out in any meaningful numbers, they're going to get crushed. | ||
| Not just beaten, Crushed. | ||
| Look at the numbers that we released. | ||
| Carrie Lake leads with 18 to 29 year olds by 20 points. | ||
| She leads 30 to 44 year olds by almost 20 points. | ||
| It only gets close when it's 65 plus, and even that, she's still up. | ||
| It's just a matter of single digits, as opposed to just a dominating win. | ||
| Hispanic voters that are going to come out in the Republican primary, they're going to vote for Lake and Masters by overwhelming margins. | ||
| That New York Times article, Steve, is lamenting the future. | ||
| I've been trying to make this commentary for about a week now, which is, it's not really commentary, it's fact. | ||
| One wing of this party appeals to the demographics that are the future, not only of Arizona, but of this nation. | ||
| The other party is literally dying. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Dying. | ||
| If you want to pray for low turnout every election, vote for Robeson. | ||
| And Mike Pence's people. | ||
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That's the choice. | |
| By the way, I want to thank El Todd Wood and the team over at CD Media that's now your sponsor for these polls. | ||
| You do a lot of these massive big data polls. | ||
| It's been incredible. | ||
| They're such a great news operation. | ||
| But here's a question. | ||
| I'm going to get to Brian Kennedy. | ||
| You were one of the first to ascertain that this is happening. | ||
| This is why I kept saying Arizona is the railhead of this, because there you can see it in high relief. | ||
| What is it about the Trump message? | ||
| What is it about the MAGA message that's reaching working class Hispanics, reaching African American males, reaching white working class workers, reaching suburban moms? | ||
| What is it about this message that for all the time the Republican Party has tried to do this and failed miserably? | ||
| That now here in 2022, right, that we're seeing this really start to take a real form. | ||
| Some say the fact that the New York Times was not happy writing this article. | ||
| You could tell they're saying, Hey, this thing is real. | ||
| This thing, this thing is real. | ||
| This thing is real and it's coming for you. | ||
| What is it about the message that attracts people to volunteer and attracts people to go vote in primary? | ||
| You know, I think it's a few things, and I think we just heard Patrick say one of them. | ||
| Donald Trump even used the word common sense conservative, you know, put that up against what Bush said, which was compassionate conservatism, and ended up not being very compassionate at all. | ||
| It led to a financial crisis, or at least they did nothing, which hurt Hispanic people badly, disproportionately, Steve, in places like Nevada and Arizona and South Texas, South Florida. | ||
| So, they needed some cajoling to bring back around, and Donald Trump, he had something, and the movement itself, new leaders like Kerry Lake and Blake Masters, they believe that they're going to fight. | ||
| It really is that simple. | ||
| The working class in this country feel abandoned, they feel like they have no voice, and they feel like voting is really a waste of time. | ||
| Nothing will change. | ||
| What America First does for them is make them think that their vote is worth it again and gives them a voice again. | ||
| It really is that simple. | ||
| I'm looking at Carrie Lake. | ||
| That is a tough woman. | ||
| She's going to fight for me. | ||
| I'm looking at Donald Trump. | ||
| He's not going to back down. | ||
| That guy's going to fight for me. | ||
| Blake Masters, he's going to fight for me. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| They've always been there. | ||
| The Republican Party, like a Mitt Romney, a technocrat, a plutocrat, whatever you want to call them, a Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| Look at these people. | ||
| They're jokes. | ||
| They're jokes. | ||
| Nobody in real America will think that somebody like them is going to fight for them. | ||
| It really is that simple. | ||
| Steve, you're a student of history. | ||
| Nobody wants to follow people who don't have the courage of their own convictions. | ||
| Nobody follows cowards. | ||
| Nobody. | ||
| It's that simple. | ||
| It's not politics, it's history. | ||
| Let me bring in Brian Kennedy. | ||
| Brian, you've been out there, you've seen this, you've seen the rise of this movement. | ||
| Is Brother Richard Barris correct in your opinion? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| First of all, Richard, I think he said that perfectly. | ||
| That was a perfect expression of what the electorate is thinking right now. | ||
| But remember, this is not sort of a new problem for Republicans. | ||
| I recall Abraham Lincoln's speech to the Wisconsin State Fair when he was asked, and this is, of course, you know, 160 years ago. | ||
| He was asked what, you know, they were pushing him on, like, whose side should we Republicans be on? | ||
| Should we be on the side of labor or capital and business? | ||
| As if there, you know, you had to be both, or excuse me, one or the other. | ||
| And you would think, the modern Republican would think, well, we ought to be on the side of labor capital. | ||
| And that's how establishment Republicans think today. | ||
| But what did Lincoln say? | ||
| He goes, we should have a very strong disposition toward labor, the working man. | ||
| This is Lincoln talking about this in the 1850s. | ||
| The working man, because if the working man, if we have laws that protect the working man's ability to make money, he can work hard, he can make money, he can save money, and he can start his own business. | ||
| If we just are on the side of capital and business, then the working man never has a place to go. | ||
| Well, Again, not to keep pushing everything back to President Trump, but that was President Trump's bias. | ||
| Let's see what we can do for the working man. | ||
| Capital can take care of itself and always does. | ||
| The working man, what do we do to take care of him to make sure that he has a leg up, that we're watching out for his interests? | ||
| And to the extent that Republicans today are talking about those issues, what's good for the working man? | ||
| They're going to win. | ||
| And if they don't follow that, and they simply focus on what's good for corporate America, I think they're not going to do as well. | ||
| They may still win seats overall, but they're not going to do as well. | ||
| And people will get disenchanted. | ||
| Richard Barish, you've done tremendous analysis and polling about the economy today. | ||
| You and I have been following this. | ||
| I think what's upset people today, as I've gotten feedback, is this whole debate of how many angels are dancing on the head of the pen. | ||
| Is it a recession? | ||
| Not a recession? | ||
| The Biden regime is in full spin mode. | ||
| Walk me through what you know from your polling and where the American people are about the economy and other aspects like that versus just a spin about nomenclature, sir. | ||
| Yeah, this is why the spin won't work because the fact is the Registered Voter Economic Confidence Index, when it first came out, Came on the show and I spoke to you about it and I told you, this index was designed to do a few things. | ||
| One, be a little bit more predictive than consumer indexes when it came to elections, the impact on elections, but also two, to predict recessionary periods, growth periods. | ||
| The American people knew we were in a recession before lagging indicators came out and confirmed it, which is what the BA puts out. | ||
| You know, we're looking backward now. | ||
| What was growth in the last three months? | ||
| But the truth is the American people knew. | ||
| And this is what happens when this index converges. | ||
| What it is telling you is that people had a negative opinion of current economic conditions, current business conditions, the labor market and general economics overall. | ||
| But over that six-month outlook, for many months, they felt maybe the economy will get better. | ||
| What happened in May, which was so important, was that the present situation and the current conditions index converged, which told us And in prior periods, it signals a recession because what it means is that people are in a malaise and they no longer feel that the economy will improve over the next six months. | ||
| So that's why at that time we were, you know, waving the red flag, you know, recession, recession. | ||
| And the data was always there to begin with. | ||
| You know, I think people gave the Biden administration a little bit of time. | ||
| Steve, but that final indicator, which is the inflation indicator about personal income, total family income, is it going to be enough to cover your expenses? | ||
| How do you feel about it? | ||
| Once that went as negative as the rest of them, that was it. | ||
| It pulled that outlook, that six months outlook, it pulled it on par with the current conditions and that was it. | ||
| We tried telling people at the time, so good news at least for followers of The Public Polling Project. | ||
| At least we did our job and the index worked, but unfortunately this is one of the times where you wish you were wrong. | ||
| No, it's, it's the reason that your guys, uh, your analysis is so good. | ||
| Um, we're a hundred starting on Sunday, we're a hundred days out and I'm not asking you to forecast, but over the last 24 hours in this city, because the chips bill, but particularly because the Manson's changed your mind on the, on the, on the, uh, green new deal bill, the hammer down, and they've put the name to show you how, how corrupt they are. | ||
| The name of the bill is the inflation fighting bill or the inflation control act. | ||
| Is, in your opinion, given your sense of the understanding of how the lived experience of American citizens today in the economy, how they're thinking about the economy, and coupled with your political polling, do you believe there's anything the Democrats can do? | ||
| Is there any bill or anything? | ||
| Because this Inflation Control Act will take years to implement. | ||
| But is there anything they can do on messaging or whatever, as you see it right now, to turn around the ship and avoid Coming up on the rocks and actually getting blown out in November, as you see it 100 days out. | ||
| I think the only ones who can screw this up are Republicans themselves. | ||
| I do think there's something going on right now, Steve, where the leadership does not want an influx of MAGA freshmen in the House and the Senate because then, God forbid, they'll have to explain to the voters why they can't get anything done or they can't block Democrats. | ||
| But the bottom line is, you know, this is the summer. | ||
| And there is always a severe non-response bias problem among Republicans in the summer. | ||
| That's why that Labor Day is really typical, give or take a week or two, is always the point when people really start to look at the polls. | ||
| In the summer, Democrats will edge a little bit of an advantage because Republicans participate less, and that tends to influence most of the methodologies that most pollsters use in media and in university. | ||
| All of the predictive indicators are bad. | ||
| And with Joe Manchin doing what he did, that should tell everybody that Joe Manchin expects this will be the last year he will see in the Senate majority for a long time. | ||
| Plus, Joe Manchin, the word is, he's done, Steve. | ||
| This is the last term. | ||
| So he knows it's up. | ||
| He knows the jig is up. | ||
| That's why he did it. | ||
| He wanted to pay up real quickly. | ||
| I want to go back to it. | ||
| You're, you're, you believe, and you're a numbers guy, but you believe now this talk that I'm hearing a lot that the leadership in the Republican Party wants to take a powder. | ||
| They don't want 50 seats, 60 seats, 70 seats. | ||
| They don't, they'd rather have it a tight so they can control it, a tighter, a majority to obviously take control, but to be tighter because what last thing they want is a bunch of Donald Trump endorsed Folks showing up there and raising holy hell. | ||
| Are you a believer in that? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Kevin McCarthy does not want to end up like John Boehner. | ||
| And remember what happened to Kevin last time. | ||
| There was a wave and influx of people that they didn't know, didn't get a chance to vet. | ||
| He didn't get the gavel. | ||
| He couldn't make it. | ||
| He didn't have the votes. | ||
| Paul Ryan had to be the compromise candidate. | ||
| There is no compromise candidate anymore. | ||
| So right now you have Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell basically counting votes. | ||
| Not counting seats. | ||
| I mean, I hate to be the breaker of bad news to everybody. | ||
| Now, there's only so much they can do to control that, Steve. | ||
| But they want a manageable establishment majority. | ||
| That is why next Tuesday, it's not just Arizona, it's Michigan, it's Missouri. | ||
| It's very important. | ||
| The last of these primaries will do a lot to define who the Republican Party is going into not just 2022, but the presidential election in 2024. | ||
| And, and, and Washington with Culp and, uh, and Joe Kent. | ||
| I mean, it's a next Tuesday. | ||
| I cannot overemphasize how big, how big that, uh, you're doing amazing work. | ||
| I want to thank your wife. | ||
| Cause I know she does the work. | ||
| You're just a good looking guy. | ||
| They put on the camera, uh, the actors that she does. | ||
| Uh, how do people, how do people, by the way, and thank y'all Todd Wood and the team at CD media that's helping sponsor this now. | ||
| Uh, how do people get to you both on your social media and how they get to the site? | ||
| Yeah, and getterintruth at People's Pundit, and they can follow me on Locals with everything we're doing, which is peoplespundit.locals.com. | ||
| And Arizona, if you want to check that polling out, I referenced cdm.press, and you'll see it all over the front page. | ||
| We just put out ballot initiatives too, which ones look like they're going to pass in Arizona, which ones look like they're going to fail in November. | ||
| So that's also really interesting. | ||
| But yeah, definitely go check out the CD Media Big Data Poll, Steve. | ||
| Richard, thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate it. | ||
| All the best! | ||
| Brian Kennedy. | ||
| Thank you, brother. | ||
| Brian, first off, I've got to talk about China for a second, but I've got to ask you, do you buy into... I'm hearing this from a lot of smart people, Paris being the latest, but I'm hearing this from a lot. | ||
| Are you buying into that theory that they're not fighting for a bigger majority because they want people they can control? | ||
| Well, look, Steve, there's been a political revolution in this country that Trump started with the America Firsts movement. | ||
| I guarantee you establishment Republicans like Kevin McCarthy do not want a Trump-like majority. | ||
| They don't like those kinds of folks. | ||
| They want the corporatist types who are happy to go along and be controlled opposition. | ||
| They don't want fighters of the kind Richard's talking about. | ||
| And so you will see, I think on Tuesday, a war for the soul of the Republican party. | ||
| I have a slight confession to make too. | ||
| I was in Aspen last week and I sat through part of the Republican Governors Association. | ||
| So I was, I was literally, you know, 10 feet from Brian Kemp at one point. | ||
| And to hear him and Doug Ducey and the rest of these Republicans, the last thing they want is Donald Trump or anybody like him back in office. | ||
| As I say, I think they're delusional. | ||
| But they still are there. | ||
| They still are powerful. | ||
| They still control a lot of money. | ||
| They're funding today opponents to the Joe Kents and to the Blakemasters and anybody who wants to stand for an America First agenda. | ||
| It really is disgusting at some level, because if you follow the track that they're on, we're going to be slaves someday to communist China. | ||
| We've got to get America back on track. | ||
| To the, to the kind of programs that President Trump was talking about. | ||
| And I would say President Trump would be well served to basically quit praising Kevin McCarthy and his leadership because that leadership is not supporting the Trump agenda. | ||
| I'm going to try to get you back on tomorrow or Saturday to talk about this. | ||
| The Chinese situation about the bailout, the $148 billion is too big an issue to jam in here. | ||
| I want to go back to the Republican governors. | ||
| Were they in shock when Hogan's proxy lost on Tuesday night? | ||
| Because Hogan's been very bitter. | ||
| There hasn't been any coming together in Maryland. | ||
| My understanding is that they were all rooting for Hogan because next stop is going to be New Hampshire and Hogan was going to get this kind of never Trump. | ||
| Were they in a state of shock when Hogan's proxy lost to Trump's proxy in Maryland, sir? | ||
| It certainly seemed that way to me. | ||
| I really do think they just don't understand the American people. | ||
| They think that Trump was a phenomenon that was simply going to go away and we were just going to get back to, you know, the Jeb Bush's and the Doug Ducey's of the world running for office. | ||
| But when you see this persistent move toward America first type candidates, These establishment Republican types simply don't get it. | ||
| They don't want to acknowledge that this is a real thing. | ||
| Having said that, they're doing their best to make sure these folks lose. | ||
| And every time these folks win, I think they're recalibrating how they think about our politics, which is all the more reason we have to double down on Tuesday with all these folks who do want to represent America first and actually take the fight to Washington. | ||
| Brian, how do people get to you on social media? | ||
| How do they get to the Committee on the Present Danger? | ||
| All the great work you and Frank Gaffney do every day over there? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| I'm Brian T. Kennedy on Getter and on Truth Social. | ||
| Mostly I'm on Getter. | ||
| And then presentdangerchina.org is our website. | ||
| We have a very interesting new poll by John McLaughlin. | ||
| Asking people about China and COVID-19, the CCP virus, that I think your listeners would be interested in. | ||
| And also a list of new webinars we're having. | ||
| We're having one today, in fact. | ||
| We'll have the video up in a day or so about Russia and China and the strategic threat that they pose to the United States. | ||
| But a lot of good stuff on presentdangerchina.org. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| You're one of the smartest guys in the country. | ||
| That's why the chairman over the Tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock, we're gonna start it all over again. |
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