July 15, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| Psychopaths are running the country right now. | ||
| You've got Biden, Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Mark Kelly. | ||
| These people don't care what's actually happening to you. | ||
| If you're paying double for a tank of gas, they'll say, don't worry, that's temporary. | ||
| If you see millions of people coming across our southern border, they'll say, don't worry, it's racist to care. | ||
| Or if you're concerned that your kid's school is shut down, again, they'll say, don't worry, safety first. | ||
| All right, Mr. Masters, you begin that obviously with the word psychopaths are running this country right now. | ||
| Now, if you are elected, of course, you might have to work with Senator Schumer someday. | ||
| But you obviously call us a psychopath. | ||
| Or not, right? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Well, do you think this type of inflammatory language is good for public policy? | ||
| I'll defend what I said. | ||
| Yeah, how else? | ||
| Look at what the Democrats are doing. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Everything that they touch is just on fire right now. | ||
| They've delivered nothing but chaos and pain. | ||
| They've given us a border crisis, an inflation crisis, a supply chain crisis, crime is skyrocketing. | ||
| And look at the ideology that they're pushing in the schools. | ||
| Friends, patriots, countrymen, lend me your ears for the second hour of The War Room. | ||
| I am Steve Cortez, substitute host for Stephen K. Bannon, and thank you for joining us, folks. | ||
| There's a lot of important primaries coming up on August 2nd. | ||
| One of them is John Gibbs, who we just had on for the full first hour, who is running in Michigan 3 against Peter Meyer. | ||
| He's an extremely strong and dynamic Young African American leader who I think is going to be a really important part of our coalition going forward. | ||
| Thankfully, there are other young such impressive leaders and one of them you saw right there and that is Blake Masters and that was a tape from his debate. | ||
| Excuse me from his debate of just two nights ago. | ||
| And I thought he did a fantastic job, represented himself and our movement very well. | ||
| He's, of course, endorsed by President Trump and certainly has my full support as well. | ||
| So, Blake, let's start with, you know, in that clip, he asked you about your ad, which was somewhat provocative, where you talk about that we are dealing with psychopaths. | ||
| Is that too strong? | ||
| Or is that the reality? | ||
| Is that what time it is in America today, that this is not the 1980s anymore when we're having sort of Disagreements at the margins over tax policy. | ||
| Is it a far more sort of existential battle right now? | ||
| And can you expound upon that? | ||
| This is not the 1980s anymore, Steve. | ||
| You're completely right. | ||
| It is an existential battle. | ||
| And, you know, my better answer that maybe I should have given on the debate stage is maybe calling the Democrats in power psychopaths is actually too kind. | ||
| Maybe it doesn't go hard enough, right? | ||
| To call them psychopaths would just imply that there's something wrong with them. | ||
| And that explains their behavior instead of actual malice. | ||
| You know, but I look at what the Democrats are doing and almost intentionally, it seems like trying to destroy the country. | ||
| If you were trying to destroy a country, you would basically be governing the way the Biden administration is governing. | ||
| And so maybe this is on purpose. | ||
| Maybe they are just actively trying to upend the family. | ||
| To make things hard for Americans to open our borders and flood this country. | ||
| So let me defend that ad again and say maybe it's too nice to call them psychopaths. | ||
| They actually seem like they're working against the best interests of Americans on purpose. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, listen, I think it's the natural and logical takeaway when you look at the kinds of policies that you're mentioning. | ||
| You know, destroying domestic American energy, right, which was abundant, affordable, and plentiful. | ||
| Opening our border, which is, I believe, an impeachable offense, at least for Mayorkas, if not actually for Biden as well. | ||
| When you engage in actions that are that reckless, Really, you're not trying in any sense to make America better. | ||
| You are actually trying to destroy America, or at least trying to destroy the historical America that has existed before, and you're trying to make it into something that has never existed and which has no relevance for regular folks out there. | ||
| Let me ask you specifically about that point that I mentioned, though, regarding Mayorkas, because Arizona, of course, is a border state. | ||
| You are on the front lines of this madness that has been created, the created crisis of Mayorkas and Biden, inviting and incentivizing Millions, literally millions of illegals to flood into this country to illegally and unfairly unjustly compete in the labor market against Americans. | ||
| In some cases, some of them dangerous people who jeopardize our street safety. | ||
| If elected to the U.S. | ||
| Senate, do you want the House to impeach Mayorkas? | ||
| And as a senator, do you anticipate that you would convict Mayorkas for this dereliction of duty? | ||
| The answer is yes and yes. | ||
| I think Mayorkas deserves to be impeached. | ||
| I think the answer is yes and yes with respect to Biden, too, though. | ||
| You know, look, we're not going to have the votes in the Senate to convict either. | ||
| And especially, what, 51, 52, maybe 53 Republican votes, but with Mitt Romney and Collins and Murkowski, we probably won't even have 50 Republican votes and you need 66 to convict. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| I don't take impeachment lightly. | ||
| I'm not like the Democrats. | ||
| The Democrats impeached President Trump twice, right? | ||
| That made no sense. | ||
| That was just political retribution. | ||
| You shouldn't impeach your enemy, you know, political adversaries because you don't like them. | ||
| You shouldn't impeach even for incompetence. | ||
| But what we are seeing from Mayorkas, what we are seeing from Biden at the Southern border, it's not mere incompetence, right? | ||
| All Biden had to do was nothing. | ||
| The situation at the Southern border under president Trump was pretty stable. | ||
| It's not perfect. | ||
| It's never been perfect, but it was the best that it's ever been. | ||
| So Biden inherits a stable situation. | ||
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Right. | |
| You could be stupid. | ||
| You could be lazy. | ||
| You could be incompetent. | ||
| If you inherit a stable situation and just don't do anything, it's going to be OK for a while. | ||
| Maybe it decays over time. | ||
| It deteriorates. | ||
| But man, we'd be in such a better spot if Biden just didn't do anything. | ||
| Instead, they actively chose to cancel completion of the border wall. | ||
| They actively chose to reverse Trump's successful policies like remain in Mexico. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And not only that, Steve, but then, of course, they invited millions of people to come here. | ||
| Incentivizing them with cash payments and we'll put you up in a hotel room in Scottsdale and nothing will happen to you. | ||
| I mean, Biden administration treats illegal aliens better than US citizens, better than US military veterans. | ||
| And so they caused this border crisis. | ||
| It was on purpose, willful violation of federal law. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's a high crime and misdemeanor. | ||
| You know, to your point about if Biden had just done nothing, I think about this a lot, because of course that was his campaign strategy in 2020, which unfortunately worked, right? | ||
| Was just hide in your basement and do nothing. | ||
| I think the reason it worked is because number one, he was completely protected by a corrupt corporate media. | ||
| And then even more importantly, uh, there was total suppression from big tech. | ||
| So big tech suppression and censorship in concert with a protective corporate media allowed him, um, to, to prevail. | ||
| I don't really say when, but allowed him to prevail, uh, despite the fact that all he really did for the campaign was hide in the basement. | ||
| Now, if for the country's sake, if he had continued that strategy, things would actually be fine in the country right now because to your point the border would be relatively under control. | ||
| And the economy's trajectory that he inherited was actually fantastic. | ||
| It was a Trump boom 2.0. | ||
| I actually started the show by literally showing it in chart form. | ||
| The upward trajectory of an economy that was surging back to life, especially in the more reasonable, you know, freedom jurisdictions, places like Florida that were being normal and scientific. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| I think President Trump, he paid attention to the race. | ||
| and he squandered all of it. Is that one of the reasons that President Trump has chosen to endorse you in what is a pretty tough race in Arizona? Yeah, that's right. You know, I think President Trump, he paid attention to the race. You know, I've been campaigning for basically a year and I received President Trump's endorsement in early June, just last month, and so I think he paid attention and, you know, made that determination that I'm the true America first candidate in the race. | ||
| I took this attitude of show, don't tell. | ||
| I wanted to show everybody that I could stand on my own two legs and play offense. | ||
| And that's what I learned from President Trump is I'm tired of Republicans who just want to play defense. | ||
| Who just get in office and they go along to get along. | ||
| And maybe they slow down the left a little bit, but I don't think conservatism can be progressivism going the speed limit, right? | ||
| Because you end up in the same place. | ||
| And so what I learned from President Trump firsthand, right, on his presidential transition team is, man, that guy plays offense. | ||
| He knows that we need to take background from the progressive left. | ||
| And if you are bold and you run clear and true on the issues that matter, yeah, the media will freak out, but who cares? | ||
| We're right on the issues. | ||
| Put a smile on your face. | ||
| Be a happy warrior. | ||
| Go say the truth and see what happens. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| Yeah, listen, we can't be controlled opposition, and we have to refuse to simply observe the managed decline of the United States, because that's what has been happening for decades in this country, and Republicans are every bit as complicit, in my view, as the Democrats are. | ||
| Now, I want to talk more about your vision, because I think it's so important, things like empowering families to thrive on a single income again. | ||
| But before we get to that, I do think it's important for you to define who your opponents are. | ||
| And right now in the polling, your closest opponent is Layman, somebody who at least on paper seems like a conservative. | ||
| So make the case against it. | ||
| Again, we're going to make the case for you, but first let's make the case against Layman. | ||
| Why would he not well represent Arizona in the United States Senate? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| And look, I don't want to spend too much time like beating up on my opponents, right? | ||
| That's one thing that separates me from Layman. | ||
| The day after I got endorsed by President Trump. | ||
| Jim Layman initiated this multi-million dollar smear campaign against me. | ||
| He's of course using Jeff Rowe at Axiom, one of the slimiest DC consultants, who happened to run Martha McSally's race a couple years ago in Arizona. | ||
| And they lost it. | ||
| So this is the slimy DC playbook. | ||
| They just smear me. | ||
| They lie about me. | ||
| And, you know, I think people are so tired of that. | ||
| So I don't want to bash Jim Lehman. | ||
| I'll just suggest like, look, I'm a much better, smarter, dynamic candidate. | ||
| I'm better substantively on the issues. | ||
| I'm out there staying laser focused on the things that matter. | ||
| Meanwhile, Lehman is spending all his time Smearing me right, so I think that's a huge dynamic. | ||
| I'm a lot younger to Steve. | ||
| I think it's interesting just generationally Lehman would bring the average age of the Senate up, but the average age of the Senate is 64 and a half You know traditionally that's retirement age, and you got a lot of senators. | ||
| God bless him Maybe they're very wise in some respects, but they're pushing 80 years old, and I'm paying attention not just to the key familiar threats like, yeah, we're going to shut down the border, we're going to stop inflation, we're going to fight election fraud, but what about the new and emerging threats like big tech or ESG scores, the wokification of corporate America? | ||
| The CCP and Bill Gates buying up all this farmland. | ||
| What's BlackRock doing to the housing market? | ||
| I'm paying attention to this stuff because, you know, I'm a young guy. | ||
| I've got young children. | ||
| I'm a young father. | ||
| I've got a long runway ahead in this country. | ||
| And 30 years from now, when my boys are my age, I want to make sure that they're living in a country that works and an America that we recognize. | ||
| And so I think getting me in to join Josh Hawley and J.D. | ||
| Vance, right, forming this young, dynamic America First Caucus, It's just going to serve Arizonans and Americans a whole lot better than getting a classic business guy like Jim Layman, who I think won't be willing to be independent, quite frankly, from Mitch McConnell. | ||
| Sure, understood. | ||
| Now listen, I think that is one of the most exciting aspects of this current campaign season that we're in, is this crop of very young, very dynamic, totally committed candidates to patriotic populism in this country. | ||
| And you named a few of them, and I think there are some others. | ||
| The thing is about the way the Senate works, and I'd like you to speak to this if you would, it doesn't take, we'd of course love to have 50 completely patriotic populist senators. | ||
| That's not going to happen at least yet. | ||
| But the way the Senate works, you don't need 50. | ||
| You don't need 60. | ||
| You need five to 10 who are really committed, who can change the dynamic of the entire body. | ||
| Isn't that so? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, the house is more of a consensus building organization and the Senate, um, you know, Through various parliamentary procedures and whatnot, just the way that it's structured, one senator can actually do quite a lot. | ||
| So we're going to have to form a coalition and snowball it over time and get more people like me and JD Vance running for office in 2024 and 2026. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But one senator is actually a lot more powerful than people think if you get someone in there who's brave, who's clear-sighted about an America First agenda. | ||
| And I'm not going to say it's going to be easy. | ||
| And yeah, in some sense, I'm only one vote. | ||
| But man, I think one person can do a whole lot more than people think. | ||
| And I intend to find out how much and show people. | ||
| And courage is contagious. | ||
| And I think other people who, you know, maybe want to lean that way, but don't quite have the courage themselves, uh, when they see folks like you and JD Vance, uh, and I think others out there too, Adam Laxalt is another young, I think totally MAGA conservative, Katie Britt, I think is going to be that. | ||
| I think there's this whole emerging class of freshmen senators, many of whom are young, many of whom are coming from outside the world of politics who are going to bring an entirely different approach, um, and a far more A far more bold approach, frankly, to politics and to the aspect of age, too. | ||
| In a recent poll from the New York Times, we saw that the approval for Joe Biden, strong approval among young Americans 18 to 29, 1%. | ||
| Now, Blake, it's actually hard to only poll 1% in almost anything because you can get 2% or 3% of people to say the affirmative to almost any silly question you ask. | ||
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Yeah, strong approved among young people, 1%. | |
| But my point is too, and if you could speak to this, and we're going to keep you over the break too, but if you could speak to this, what is it that young people see? | ||
| What is it that, how are they particularly being harmed by Joe Biden and by the establishment right now? | ||
| Well, they just see that they're, you know, growing up and becoming adults in a country that doesn't work anymore. | ||
| Like they think young people are quite reasonable to feel jaded. | ||
| And I understand this. | ||
| It's not working for them. | ||
| The danger is if you don't have young dynamic messengers like me to articulate why the America First agenda is correct, why we need it, then young people who feel resentful, who feel like the American dream has been stolen from them, who feel like the country is breaking down, the danger is that they'll follow the siren song of AOC and Bernie Sanders style Free stuff, free stuff, free stuff. | ||
| And man, that's just the wrong way to go, obviously, right? | ||
| We need these America First policies. | ||
| They'll help shore up the economy and make it possible again to raise a family on one single income. | ||
| But politicians aren't talking this way. | ||
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I want to get to that. | |
| And we'll talk about it in the next segment, that exact topic. | ||
| Yes, going to stick with us, Blake Masters, part of this revolution that is going on in the United States Congress and in the United States Senate. | ||
| More with Blake Masters, up next. | ||
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| 🎵 Cause we're taking down the CCP 🎵 | ||
| 🎵 Spread the word all through Hong Kong 🎵 | ||
| 🎵 We will fight till they're all gone 🎵 | ||
| 🎵 We rejoice when there's no more 🎵 | ||
| 🎵 Let's take down the CCP 🎵 | ||
| Of Hispanic voters, believe that America is... | ||
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Their goal. | |
| 70% of Hispanic voters believe that America is the greatest country in the world. | ||
| Do you know what percentage of progressive, woke, mostly white Democrats believe that America is the greatest country in the world? | ||
| 28% of them. | ||
| This is an astounding stat. | ||
| 70% of Hispanic voters believe that America is the greatest country in the world. | ||
| Just 28% of mostly white progressive Democrats do. | ||
| So bad hombres love the United States of America. | ||
| Not surprising to me in the least. | ||
| Democrats don't. | ||
| Don't believe that America is exceptional. | ||
| Don't believe that America is the greatest country in the world. | ||
| That breakdown of that poll, and that was the great Clay Travis, who really came to fame via sports, but now has a fantastic political show with Buck Sexton every day on the radio, and that show is thriving. | ||
| What he is explaining there is a huge part of the reason Why Hispanics are rallying to the America First agenda. | ||
| And I think there's two sides of that coin. | ||
| On the negative side, they've been politically orphaned by an increasingly radical Democratic Party, a Democratic Party that is not patriotic, that doesn't believe in American exceptionalism. | ||
| But then on the flip side, on the positive side, they are also rallying toward a vision of cultural conservatism combined with economic populist nationalism. | ||
| and proud Latinas and bad hombres are coming over in droves. | ||
| And they are going to be very important, of course, in the state of Arizona, which is a critical state on the whole, both the gubernatorial race as well as the Senate race. | ||
| And I'm really pleased to be continuing with Blake Masters, who was the President Trump endorsed candidate in a very tough primary, where there's a lot of money involved, a lot of candidates involved. | ||
| And once he does prevail, and I believe he will, will be involved in a very tough general election. | ||
| We'll talk about that in a moment. | ||
| But first, Blake, speak please, if you would, about in your state of Arizona, where you were born and raised in Arizona, Hispanics are of course a massive part of the population and the culture of the Grand Canyon State is what Clay Travis was talking about there. | ||
| Is that resonating in your race? | ||
| Do you find this that Hispanics are increasingly open to your message and to our movement? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You know, if you're a first generation or second generation, you know, Hispanic family, you love this country, right? | ||
| You remember why you came here legally, of course, but you remember why you came here. | ||
| Maybe you fled a horrible situation in Venezuela or Honduras. | ||
| There are many options that are worse than the United States. | ||
| These people come here. | ||
| They're entrepreneurial. | ||
| They want America to work. | ||
| They're looking for and found in America the American dream. | ||
| They're more freaked out than anybody that under Joe Biden's failed leadership, the American dream is vanishing. | ||
| That statistic is just true. | ||
| I go to meet and greet with a Hispanic family host and it's like the 4th of July in the house when it's not the 4th of July, when it's like May because they've got flags everywhere. | ||
| They're just proud and patriotic and they love this country. | ||
| You talk to so many of these Latina moms, they are just aghast at what's happening in They want their kids to be taught reading, and writing, and arithmetic, and history, instead of the fake 1619 history project, which is literally the left's plot to treat American history as, you know, this horrible dark thing. | ||
| Obviously, this country's not perfect. | ||
| It was never perfect. | ||
| But man, to teach young people to hate this country, to be ashamed of it, right? | ||
| That's what the Democrats believe. | ||
| That's why they're trying to teach young people to hate this country. | ||
| And I'm telling you, these first, second-gen immigrants, No, they don't want to have any part of it, and it's why they're going to, I think, be a huge part of this red wave come November. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, I mentioned, Blake, that I'm very optimistic about this and excited about this current election season because of young candidates like you, like John Gibbs, who we just had on, looking bigger picture, not just 2022, but into the 2020s and 2030s. | ||
| The biggest reason that I am optimistic that our movement is going to become the dominant political force in this country, or already is the dominant political force, but will become the dominant governing Political force in this country is largely because of what we see unfolding with Hispanics. | ||
| Now, for families, whether they're Hispanic, white, black, or purple, okay, for families in America, it has become increasingly difficult for them to thrive on a single income. | ||
| It's something that when I was young, I'm 50 years old, when I was young, it was the norm. | ||
| I grew up in a very middle-class community on the south side of Chicago, not a wealthy area, and it was the norm for families there that they could survive and thrive, in fact, reasonably, on a single income in the 1970s. | ||
| That's gone away, and it's something that we hardly even talk about in this country, even though it's so incredibly consequential to our lives. | ||
| It's something that you, thankfully, do talk about a lot. | ||
| Can you talk about how you're going to change it? | ||
| What are the policy prescriptions to enable families? | ||
| And again, we're not telling any family what to do. | ||
| We're not telling any woman they can't work, but to enable families to make a choice that if they want to have one parent full-time in the home, they can afford it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's two primary buckets here, right? | ||
| One is things need to cost less. | ||
| And two is people need to make more money and actually make more money, not just bigger looking paychecks, but paychecks that actually go further and buy more stuff. | ||
| And so, To take each of those in turn, the first thing you have to do to make things costless is just stop inflation. | ||
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Right. | |
| And this is not a not a sexy talking point. | ||
| This is not a new theory, but like the government has to stop printing and spending so much money. | ||
| What did Joe Biden think was going to happen when they spent six trillion dollars in one year? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or just look at you talked a little bit about Biden's America last energy policies. | ||
| What did Biden think was going to happen to the price of gas when you cancel important pipelines and you forbid new oil and gas drilling and exploration, right? | ||
| They've almost intentionally caused this inflation or they're just so stupid, you know, but here it is. | ||
| In Greater Phoenix, inflation is not 9.1%, as the official statistics say. | ||
| It's like 20 or 30%, right? | ||
| So the government's got to stop inflating away people's savings, right? | ||
| We just have to get energy independent once again. | ||
| So there's one whole bucket where, like, let's stop the runaway exploding costs. | ||
| But then more long term, how do you get people to be even more economically productive and enjoy the fruits of their labor? | ||
| Well, there's a few things here. | ||
| One, I think we need to radically restrict immigration. | ||
| Certainly the correct amount of illegal immigration is zero. | ||
| And the left, Bernie Sanders, they used to be able to talk about how a glut of unlimited illegal immigration, that's actually really bad for the American working class. | ||
| It just destroys their wages. | ||
| If you can just import people from around the world to come in and do jobs for less money, obviously that's horrible. | ||
| For the American working class that's trying to work hard and save up and, you know, make it into the American middle class. | ||
| So the correct amount of illegal immigration is zero. | ||
| I think we need to tighten up on legal immigration, too. | ||
| You know, so many of these visa programs, maybe they're well intended. | ||
| Look, we want to make sure that business has the labor that it needs. | ||
| But the H-1B visa system, for instance, I'm pretty convinced at this point just works mainly as corporate welfare for the likes of Google and Facebook. | ||
| Of course, these companies would rather pay immigrants from India or China less money to come over and do, you know, what are very often basic software programming jobs. | ||
| That way they don't have to pay American citizens more money to do the same work, right? | ||
| So it's good for Google. | ||
| I guess it's good for the Indian citizen who gets an H-1B visa. | ||
| It's pretty bad for the American middle class. | ||
| And I think if we overhaul our visa programs and make sure, yeah, the best and the brightest people are coming here. | ||
| If you're a rocket scientist from Bangladesh or some physicist from Sweden. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Come on in. | ||
| Start a company. | ||
| Put Americans to work. | ||
| But we don't need to be importing people, even legally, who are going to displace American workers. | ||
| And so with a tight labor market that actually works for American workers, I think wages start to rise. | ||
| We also need to re-industrialize a little bit. | ||
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Right? | |
| We need to be able to make stuff here in America again, whether that's computer chips, antibiotics, right? | ||
| We can't just have a service sector economy where we offshore everything important. | ||
| People need to make stuff, make stuff with their hands, right? | ||
| High-skilled manufacturing jobs with the right economic policies. | ||
| And President Trump showed us the way, right? | ||
| We just re-implement his America First economic policies. | ||
| They were working, I think, under President Trump for the first time in decades. | ||
| Median wages, that's the amount of money people actually make. | ||
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Right. | |
| Now, listen, 2019 was, I think, in many respects, the best year for American workers in all of U.S. | ||
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history. | |
| I think the statistics bear that out. | ||
| The last year before the CCP virus so artificially crashed the global economy. | ||
| and the White House. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, listen, 2019 was, I think, in many respects, the best year for American workers in all of U.S. history. | ||
| I think the statistics bear that out. | ||
| The last year before the CCP virus so artificially crashed the global economy. | ||
| In 2019, overall wage growth was 6.8 percent in the United States, and that's with about So you're talking massive gallop higher in real wages. | ||
| And it was even better than that for non-managerial workers. | ||
| So for blue-collar folks, it was actually 9%. | ||
| So we proved that the policies of populist nationalist economics, that they do work for regular workers and they can work again and will. | ||
| Now, regarding President Trump, he has endorsed you. | ||
| He's coming to Arizona tomorrow. | ||
| Tell us about the rally. | ||
| What are you expecting? | ||
| I'm sure you're speaking. | ||
| Give us a preview, please. | ||
| I'm speaking, absolutely. | ||
| It's going to be fun. | ||
| You know, I've been to Trump rallies before, of course, but this is going to be my first time on stage as an endorsed candidate. | ||
| You know, I'm going to go sort of write my speech right after I break with you here. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| You know, anyone who's been to these Trump rallies knows they're less traditional political events, and it's more like a rock concert, right? | ||
| The energy, the patriotism, the good vibes. | ||
| I expect this one to be even more special, right? | ||
| Because unfortunately for America, we're in a dark spot. | ||
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Right? | |
| Everything Biden touches has turned to fire. | ||
| Every voter that I speak with sort of knows in their bones, whether they're really conservative or more of an independent moderate, they know in their bones that we're on the wrong track and we don't have much time to reverse course. | ||
| So I expect the stakes to be a little higher here at this Trump rally, right? | ||
| There's a lot of energy and anxiety going into this election, but man, it's going to be fun. | ||
| I can't wait to see President Trump and it's going to be rocking in Prescott Valley, Arizona. | ||
| By the way, just one question before we get to your info, because I do want to hear that, too, for the audience. | ||
| Who in Arizona decided on an August 2nd primary in the state of Arizona? | ||
| I mean, campaigning, I guess you can't do anything outside, right? | ||
| I mean, it's got to just be scorching. | ||
| Well, you know, God bless my loyal team and volunteers. | ||
| They're outside. | ||
| They're pounding in road signs. | ||
| They're knocking doors. | ||
| It's like 111. | ||
| Helps to be a young candidate, right? | ||
| I've got the energy to go join them, and we've got a young team. | ||
| But it's hot. | ||
| It's hot, but hey. | ||
| That's earning it. | ||
| That's earning it. | ||
| Arizona. | ||
| Okay, hey, where should folks go if they want to learn more about you, if they want to potentially support you in this bid? | ||
| Thank you, Steve. | ||
| Yeah, very simple. | ||
| Just go to blakemasters.com. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| Blake Masters, we'll look forward to seeing you tomorrow night on stage with President Trump. | ||
| I know it's going to be a fantastic and patriotic rally. | ||
| You have a great time there, and we will check in with you soon. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Great to see you. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Blake Masters, August 2nd primary. | ||
| August 2nd is going to be a very busy day in this country, and I think we're going to elect some pretty significant folks, including Blake Masters. | ||
| Up next, we're going to talk more about President Trump with the chair of the Claremont Institute, who gave a fantastic speech about Trump's virtue. | ||
| Maybe not two words you normally would put together, but he believes you should, and he's going to explain why. | ||
| Tom Klingenstein up next. | ||
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We will fight till they're all gone. | |
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the T.T.D. | ||
| Their goal is to end America. | ||
| . | ||
| Make no mistake, we are in the midst of a cold civil war. | ||
| Trump awakened the public to this fact. | ||
| You cannot win a war unless you know you are in one. | ||
| Trump's critics Say he caused or exacerbated the divide in this country. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| He revealed, not caused, an existing divide. | ||
| That is Tom Klingenstein. | ||
| He is the chair of the great Claremont Institute, and he gave a speech titled Trump's Virtue. | ||
| It is a fantastic speech, and I recommend that you watch it in its entirety. | ||
| It's not all that long, but it's well worth your time investment to watch it. | ||
| And he joins us now. | ||
| Tom, I was really grabbed by this speech of yours. | ||
| I think you make some incredible insights and some very provocative ones, quite frankly. | ||
| And let's start there, because you say that we are in a A cold civil war. | ||
| Now, that's a harsh term. | ||
| I think it's accurate, but it's a harsh term. | ||
| What evidence do you have that we, in fact, these aren't just partisan political battles, this isn't sort of normal political discourse among partisans, but that there is a cold civil war right now in America? | ||
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Yeah, you know, what constitutes a war is when the two sides have different understandings of a just society. | |
| You can't have two understandings of justice in one society. | ||
| You can't believe slavery was a good thing. | ||
| Other people believe it was a bad thing. | ||
| Those things don't go together. | ||
| In the current case, the opposition, the enemy, what I call woke comms, what they believe in is group outcome equality. | ||
| All identity groups equal, proportional to their representation in society. | ||
| So blacks are 13% of the population, they should have 13% of the CEOs, dishwashers, and everything else you can think of. | ||
| Right? | ||
| In America, our understanding of a just society is one where individuals are free to pursue happiness. | ||
| And that will give rise to all sorts of outcome differences between men and women, because they have different values, but also among cultural groups. | ||
| And you can't go from America with its emphasis on free individuals to outcome equality without force, ultimately without a tyranny that controls all aspects of public and private life. | ||
| Okay, so Tom, if it is indeed a cold civil war, I think it then logically follows that it will be impossible to reach some compromise with these woke comms, with these leftists, that they have zero interest in compromise, that one side simply politically has to win. | ||
| And we hope that that win is political, right, rather than some other means. | ||
| But is that correct or am I being too extreme to say we cannot compromise with them? | ||
| We simply must prevail. | ||
| We must win politically. | ||
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In fact, that's perhaps the most important point. | |
| And Republicans, unlike Trump, they don't understand this for the most part. | ||
| And they talk about compromise. | ||
| They talk about reaching across the aisle. | ||
| That'll kill you, that strategy. | ||
| We are, you know, it's one thing, as you implied, if the two sides basically agree on what a just society looks like, okay, you compromise, you lose an election, you're gonna win perhaps next time around. | ||
| That's not the way it is. | ||
| That's why the stakes are so high. | ||
| And I think Trump understood that. | ||
| He couldn't always articulate it as well as we might like. | ||
| But he understood it. | ||
| So take the media. | ||
| He didn't try to compromise. | ||
| He didn't try to convince him that he was a good guy. | ||
| He said, F you to the media. | ||
| And that's what you have to do in a war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, listen, I think that makes terrific sense. | ||
| Regarding Trump, you know, a lot of folks out there. | ||
| Well, actually, you know what? | ||
| I was going to explain it myself. | ||
| I think let's first play a clip of you explain this and we'll get more to it. | ||
| Here's more from Tom's speech. | ||
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Existing divide. | |
| In war, you must make a stand. | ||
| For that, we need strong men. | ||
| Weak men do anything to avoid admitting the hardest truth. | ||
| Strong men versus weak men. | ||
| You know, what I hear often, Tom, regarding Donald Trump, and I particularly hear this from sort of credentialed people in our society, from affluent folks, is they say, listen, I like Trump's policies, but I can't stand his approach, or I can't stand how strong he comes on, or how pugnacious he is. | ||
| It seems to me that you're taking in some ways almost the opposite approach, right? | ||
| And saying that, no, that fight is exactly, that courage is actually what is most admirable and most virtuous, actually, about Donald Trump. | ||
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I think that's absolutely right. | |
| You know, anybody can mimic his policies. | ||
| And I think most of the Republican candidates that we talk about for president will and can. | ||
| But what it's not so easy to duplicate is his courage. | ||
| I mean, can you imagine what it takes to stand up in the eye of the storm? | ||
| I mean, nobody Suffered more, not just at hands of the press, but intelligence agencies, tech, big business, media, everything, right? | ||
| So courage is number one. | ||
| He's very patriotic. | ||
| You'll note he never apologizes for America. | ||
| America is incredible, period, full stop. | ||
| He believes our culture is great and that's the way he wants to keep it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's a guy that doesn't believe in experts. | ||
| He's one of the few people who really is an outsider. | ||
| You know, most politicians claim they're not from Washington, but most are. | ||
| Trump really isn't. | ||
| And so he got it, I think. | ||
| Another thing about Trump I think is important is that Trump is comfortable in his own skin. | ||
| And that's what gives him the ability, I think, to be courageous. | ||
| He knows who he is. | ||
| You know, that is one of the aspects, one of the things that I most admire about Donald Trump, you know, obviously the philosophical side, but in terms of personal attributes, it's the ability to not just withstand, you know, the constant unfair attacks and slings and arrows, but to almost thrive off of them. | ||
| I mean, it seems to me that he's one of these very unique individuals who actually takes energy from the attack. | ||
| Is that something that you see in him? | ||
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Yeah, I think that's right. | |
| I would say to the listeners who are of the, I like his policies but I don't like the rest of him camp, I don't think by and large his personality is all that important. | ||
| One analogy, General Grant in the Civil War, well his personality wasn't so good. | ||
| He was a drunk, was morally deficient, but yet we needed a general, we needed one to fight, and he's the only one who did. | ||
| And so I think Trump is similar. | ||
| I think we were blessed, absolutely blessed, to have Trump when we did. | ||
| Whether he's the right guy for the future, that's a different question. | ||
| But I think whoever is the right person, We ought to keep in mind Trump's virtues and measure that other person in relation to Trump. | ||
| Does he have Trump's courage? | ||
| Yeah, I think it's critical. | ||
| And by the way, let me be the first to say, I think that competitive primaries are incredibly important. | ||
| They're important for the country. | ||
| They're important for our movement. | ||
| We have really competitive primaries going on all around the country right now. | ||
| We just had two guests on running for the House and the Senate, respectively, who are engaged in really competitive primaries. | ||
| I think both of them will win, but they will be better candidates and ultimately a better representative and a better senator, I think, for undergoing those primaries. | ||
| And I expect that there certainly will be a competitive primary for president in 2024. | ||
| Let me ask you this about Ron DeSantis in particular, who I happen to think is the best governor in America, and in my estimation, by a long shot. | ||
| I don't think it's even close. | ||
| What would be your counter, if I were to play devil's advocate, to people who say, you know what, in Ron DeSantis we get basically all of Donald Trump's policies and his fight, because he's been somebody willing to pick fights against powerful opponents, Disney, for example. | ||
| But we don't get some of the personal animus that is so directed toward Trump. | ||
| What would you say to those folks? | ||
| Or do they have a reasonable point regarding DeSantis? | ||
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I think they have a very reasonable point. | |
| I think, like you, I think DeSantis is the only of the non-Trump group that's credible. | ||
| I think one of the advantages of a primary, we're going to see DeSantis on a national stage. | ||
| Being a governor is different than being a president. | ||
| I mean, he's taken abuse, but let's see when he takes Trump-like abuse. | ||
| And let's look at how he does when Trump comes after him. | ||
| So I think being on the national stage is very important for evaluating him. | ||
| Well, and just just so that I'm clear with the audience, it is my belief and my expectation that Ron DeSantis is going to massively win reelection for governor of Florida because he's the best governor in America and that he will not run against Donald Trump in 2024, but instead become the president of the United States in 28 or 32. | ||
| But we will see. | ||
| We'll see what the future, you know, what it holds for us. | ||
| I want to ask you, Tom, also about your institution, about Claremont Institute, because you are in many ways, you know, sort of the intellectual backbone of the populist right movement in this country. | ||
| And because of that, you come under a lot of attack. | ||
| So you have some of the attributes as an institution that Donald Trump has as an individual. | ||
| Is your institution strong, able to withstand those attacks, and in fact, thriving from it? | ||
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Yeah, I think because we're recognized as the intellectual basis for Trump and the only really part of the conservative intellectual movement that was and is, right? | |
| We're getting a lot more support, right? | ||
| This is a great time for us. | ||
| We're in the middle of the fight. | ||
| We're recognized as serious people. | ||
| Our budget is going way up. | ||
| The Washington Post is going to write a hit piece on us, and we take great pride in that. | ||
| The New York Times Magazine is going to write a longer piece, perhaps less of a hit piece, but it tells you that they think that we're really important. | ||
| We're not just a group of political philosophers, and we are that. | ||
| But we're a group that's very much engaged in small P partisan politics, and we are providing, I think, some of the ideas that are driving, that are animating some of these candidates. | ||
| So this is a great time for us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, listen, I think you're doing incredibly important work. | ||
| I try to read as much as I can of the great research that is put out by your institute, and your fellows have become incredibly influential in this country, throughout this movement, throughout politics. | ||
| And so, you know, and by the way, yeah, getting attacked by people like the New York Times Magazine and the Washington Post is certainly, number one, it's a sign you're important, but number two, it tells us that you certainly have the correct enemies. | ||
| You have the right people, the correct people who are against you. | ||
| Listen, to learn more about the institute, to learn more about your work, to watch your speech, Where should folks go, Tom? | ||
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For my speech, just Google Trump's Virtues and my last name, which is spelled on the screen there. | |
| So Trump's Virtues, my last name, that will get you to the YouTube. | ||
| And Claremont is just Claremont.org. | ||
| I would mention that we have a magazine that I think is very good. | ||
| It's called The American Mind, and you can get that simply by typing in The American Mind. | ||
| Right. | ||
| American Mind is fantastic. | ||
| Tom Klingenstein, appreciate your speech and appreciate you being here today. | ||
| Have a wonderful weekend, sir. | ||
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Well, thank you very much. | |
| You too. | ||
| You bet. | ||
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See ya. | |
| And folks, you know, to that broader point, I think that as much as I admire Ron DeSantis, I think part of why he is as great as he is, is because of Donald Trump. | ||
| In other words, you know, I mentioned previously, and I say it often, that courage is contagious and it indeed is. | ||
| And I think one of the reasons that Ron DeSantis, Who certainly had the philosophical basis and the life experiences to be a great leader. | ||
| But one of the reasons that he has been a bold and brave leader as the governor of Florida is because of the example of Donald Trump as president of the United States and now a resident of his state of Florida. | ||
| It's really, there's an amazing amount of America first firepower, intellectual and political firepower in the state of Florida right now. | ||
| I mean, it's really, it's incredible what's going on there. | ||
| And because of that, the state is absolutely thriving in all ways, politically, Economically, numerically. | ||
| My home state of Tennessee thriving a lot, too. | ||
| Folks, we're going to be back next and we're going to talk about possessed Pocahontas. | ||
| Probably know what I'm talking about. | ||
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| In Massachusetts right now, those crisis pregnancy centers... | ||
| that are there to fool people who are looking for pregnancy termination help outnumber true abortion clinics by three to one. | ||
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We need to shut them down here in Massachusetts and we need to shut them down all around the country. | |
| You should not be able to torture a pregnant person like that. | ||
| Possessed Pocahontas. | ||
| That's what I now refer to her as. | ||
| And I'm trying to be funny, but not really. | ||
| Because what she said there was demonic. | ||
| It truly was. | ||
| That they need to be shut down. | ||
| Crisis pregnancy centers. | ||
| Places that are helping women who are in a difficult place in life. | ||
| Who are facing an unexpected pregnancy. | ||
| Women who are scared. | ||
| Who need assistance. | ||
| And find it at these wonderful charities, places that try to persuade people to choose life. | ||
| But don't use coercion in any sense. | ||
| Don't use the blunt force of law. | ||
| Instead, use charity, prayer, Persuasion and love to try to persuade people, women who are in a tough spot, that their baby is a blessing, even if it may not seem like it at that very moment. | ||
| So Crisis Pregnancy Centers and the people who staff them, who are overwhelmingly women and largely volunteers, they are heroes in our society. | ||
| And they were totally unjustly maligned by Elizabeth Warren, by possessed Pocahontas, with a demonic wish that we literally shut these fabulous charities down. | ||
| Now, pleased to be joined by somebody who cares a lot about the issues of life. | ||
| Somebody who has an exactly diametrically opposite view of Pocahontas on this, and that is Liz Yor. | ||
| Liz, your reactions to what Senator Warren said there, and please your reactions, and then also fill the audience in on what crisis pregnancy centers around the country actually do, please. | ||
| Yes, Steve. | ||
| She has been trying to ride this issue the moment the draft decision dropped. | ||
| I saw Elizabeth Warren go into this frenzy. | ||
| She believes this is her political opportunity, but this is an issue that she can't write into the White House. | ||
| This is an issue that really is compelling the younger generation to really get involved in. | ||
| And it is hideous what is being done to these pregnancy care centers by what I consider, and I agree with your previous expert, This is anarchy. | ||
| This is a revolution attacking these charitable organizations. | ||
| Now let me just tell people because there's never been really a discussion about what these pregnancy care centers do. | ||
| They're all over the United States. | ||
| They are run largely by volunteers. | ||
| One clinic alone can provide over $1 million worth of free, free medical services each year to the women who come to them. | ||
| They charge these women nothing. | ||
| And these centers never, unlike Planned Parenthood, financially benefit from any choice that the women make. | ||
| They offer pregnancy tests. | ||
| These centers do ultrasounds, prenatal visits for up to 24 weeks, well women visits. | ||
| They give abortion pill reversal services, abortion recovery counseling, and parenting counseling. | ||
| They provide diapers, wipes, baby formula, when it isn't being, you know, disappearing under this administration, baby food, baby clothing. | ||
| Baby supplies and if a woman needs a hotel room, it's all paid for by the crisis pregnancy center so this is the place that Elizabeth Warren says is Torturing now you have to remember pregnant people. | ||
| That was the language she used pregnant people. | ||
| She's so you know, she's so woke and And what is hideous, what is absolutely hideous, and this is why we are experiencing a revolution and anarchy. | ||
| There have been over, in the last few months, 40 incidents of violence, vandalism, intimidation, firebombing of pro-life pregnancy centers. | ||
| by these anarchists. | ||
| The U.S. | ||
| Conference of Catholic Bishops have reported 152 incidents against churches. | ||
| Some of the churches have been actually burned down. | ||
| There have been arson, beheading of statues, vandalism by these anarchists trying to intimidate churches, Christian parishes and churches as well, because many of them are supporting these pregnancy centers. | ||
| So, this is the left being exposed in what is an incredibly troubling state. | ||
| Is that this administration, with Meritless Garland, our Attorney General, who is supposed to protect churches under the federal law, protect our Supreme Court judges from intimidation, harassment, attempted assassinations, and being hunted down. | ||
| They are sitting by and doing nothing. | ||
| We have the administration, Pete Putajet, Also saying, you know, he has no objection with the harassment of the judges at their homes and in the restaurants where they're eating. | ||
| This is an attempt to chill the pro-life movement. | ||
| And, you know, frankly, I don't think they're going to stop because these are driven anarchists who want to create chaos. | ||
| And, you know... And it's an attempt to intimidate You know, really, I think some of the most saintly and heroic people in American society. | ||
| To your point, too, the juxtaposition versus Planned Parenthood. | ||
| Think about Planned Parenthood gets massive amounts of taxpayer money. | ||
| In addition to that, billions and billions of dollars of corporate money. | ||
| Unfortunately, most major corporations in America contribute heavily to Planned Parenthood. | ||
| None of them contribute to these pregnancy care centers. | ||
| These are places operating on shoestring budgets, largely with volunteers, many of them women, many of them doing it because of their faith, but they serve people of any faith or no faith. | ||
| These are heroes, it seems to me, and Liz, I appreciate you coming on the show today to defend them. | ||
| Elizabeth Warren is, like I said, just wicked for this attack. | ||
| Where do people find more about you, Liz, and follow your work online? | ||
| My website is yorechildren.com and I'm everywhere on social media under Elizabeth Yore. | ||
| Thanks so much Steve for bringing this to the attention of the public. | ||
| You bet. | ||
| Absolutely, Liz. | ||
| Thank you so much for being here. | ||
| Have a wonderful weekend. | ||
| Folks, listen, I think that it's important for us to realize, you know, who the opponent is here. | ||
| And again, these are not small partisan political squabbles, right? | ||
| These are existential types of disagreements. | ||
| But continue to rally. | ||
| Keep the faith. | ||
| It was wonderful sitting in for today. | ||
| I appreciate Stephen K. Bannon giving me the opportunity to own this mic for a couple of hours. | ||
| Patriots, have a fantastic weekend ahead. | ||
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| We rejoice when there's no more. |
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