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Episode 1993: WarRoom Calls For Major Investigation Of Twitter; MAGA Revolt In NebraskaEpisode 1993: WarRoom Calls For Major Investigation Of Twitter; MAGA Revolt In Nebraska
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The virus has now killed more than 100 people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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steve bannon
Okay, we're doing a little shifting around.
Darren Beattie Dropper.
We're going to try and get him back up.
We've got Darren on Twitter and we're going to talk to him about this Hoffs situation.
But I've got the great Frank Gaffney.
By the way, we started the cold open this morning.
We started the cold open this morning with Abe's assassination.
Was it on Friday?
Abe's assassination on Thursday or Friday.
And the massive victory they had last night.
I want to bring in Frank Gaffney.
Frank, first off, The victory for Abe's party, essentially what he gave his life for, is monumental in the fact that he is all in.
Remember, he flew over the first guy to see President Trump.
The closest relationship President Trump had was with Abe.
Abe was all about making Japan great again and central to that.
Was waking the Japanese people up to the fact that the Chinese Communist Party is an existential threat.
Not North Korea, it's the Chinese Communist Party.
North Korea is their mini-me, right?
With the nuclear weapons, right?
With the ballistic missile that could hit Osaka in 90 seconds.
But it's the Chinese Communist Party that's a threat.
Abe was for full defense, get rid of the IDF, get a full military, get rid of the clause in the Constitution that said you gotta be pacifist, partner with India and the United States to have a real alliance that can confront in East Asia the Chinese Communist Party and thwart their efforts to try to consolidate the Eurasian landmass and to control the Western Pacific.
Frank, you just had a magnificent, magnificent webinar last week on this very issue on the Western Pacific.
Talk to me about how important this victory was yesterday, overwhelming blowout win for Abe's party and what it means for Japan and what it means for the American people, sir.
frank gaffney
It appears, Steve, that Abe's party will now have the votes in Parliament to modify the Constitution and do it in a way that Abe devoted his life to, a professional career, namely
To move, I think you said IDF, JDF, the Japanese Defense Forces to get them back to having the actual capability to engage in both defensive operations for sure, but also offensive ones.
Now, you know, to those who saw the Japanese on the march during World War II, that still conjures up some frightening images, understandably.
The Chinese have hard memories of Manchuria and the occupation by the Japanese forces.
But in the environment that the Japanese find themselves in today, especially with the United States not being as formidable as it needs to be in the Western Pacific at the moment, The Japanese, frankly, have no choice but to rearm and to be in a position to defend themselves, including by taking the fight to the enemy as appropriate.
steve bannon
By the way, in Manchurian, we're making no excuses for the Imperial Japanese Army and what happened, but let's be blunt.
The Chinese took the brunt and there were three million Japanese troops in China at the end of the war.
Three million, okay?
Which would have been in the Pacific Islands.
You think Guadalcanal and Tarawa and Peleliu and these were bad?
Think about if you had more frontline divisions because a lot of the frontline divisions were in mainland China.
We abandoned the Chinese people We abandoned the Chinese people to the Chinese Communist Party being incredibly naive in 1947-48 in the Civil War.
We could have sorted out the whole mess there.
We did not.
Then we abandoned them again after Tiananmen Square with General Scowcroft and the Bush Syndicate.
Twice we've abandoned them.
It's Lao-Bai Jing.
Look how we start this show with the cold open.
They've got, I hear, six billion dollars of deposits in these regional banks.
And they're doing these lockdowns, and they're doing this app of the thing to say, oh no, no, no, it's a COVID, we think we've got a variant, nobody can go, because they don't want to run on the banks.
Lao-Bai Jing can't get their money.
The people that are the most oppressed by the Chinese Communist Party are the Chinese people.
That's why we need the Japanese people, the Americans, the Taiwanese, the Indians, right?
We need a true alliance, not a NATO alliance of a bunch of deadbeats that want the Americans to underwrite everything.
We need to have a real alliance, and that's why Abe, one of the great heroes of the 21st century, gave his life He's standing on that corner, and that's what he's preaching, that we've got to put the past in back of us.
We have to rearm.
If we don't rearm, the hour is late.
If we don't rearm, they can see what Katsimatidis and Rudy were just talking about, the Chinese Navy.
And right now, let me be blunt, over the weekend, what happens?
You've got an aircraft carrier that loses, what, an F-18, a Super Hawk?
It's not tied down in the Mediterranean because of inclement weather during a refueling, a replenishment, refueling evolution?
A advanced fighter aircraft gets blown off the deck?
That's not exactly Top Gun.
Somebody didn't have it tied down?
The Navy, my beloved Navy, is not up to the mission right now to withstand what's coming for them in the South China Sea and Taiwan.
I've put a, there's a story we're gonna put this afternoon, in Bloomberg, From three weeks ago that says, hey, you know, banning these guys talking about chips.
If Taiwan falls, it'll be a lot worse than chips.
And they're talking about a dramatic implosion of the American economy.
Look, the Ukraine situation is something of choice.
South China Sea and Taiwan is not of choice.
That's Silicon Valley West.
That's the central beating heart of a big part of the American economy.
And right now, we're not being serious about this.
And Biden, who's totally compromised, is not being serious.
You've got a whole new series on the webinars to start today, Frank.
Oh, by the way, before I do it, Gaffney, I gotta give you a hat tip.
I thought it was just crazy.
Uncle Frank Gaffney.
Gaffney's been on here preaching on all the specials that, hey, we're running out of ammo and what you don't understand is that the Russians can run a war of attrition, we can't because we don't have it.
The Financial Times of London Ben Harnwell pulls it out.
It's lead story is, guess what?
We're running out of equipment.
We're running out of munitions.
I said, man, I thought Frank was just being a show for the defense contractors.
He's not.
Gaffney, give me a minute on that.
You actually turned out to be right.
FT's all over the story.
We're sending these guys into a slaughter pen right now.
We don't actually have the logistics chain and we don't have actually the ammo to give them to fight a war of attrition.
Is that correct?
frank gaffney
Well, that's putting it mildly.
We are in desperate straits, not simply because we don't have the wherewithal to provide the Ukrainians all that they would need to engage in a war of attrition with the Russians, but the cupboard is bare when, not if, when we have to fight the Chinese.
I was listening to Mark Levin last night, and he had David Petraeus, of all people, on.
David Petraeus was holding forth about the vast Additional amounts of equipment we need to be getting to the Ukrainians right away.
To his credit, Mark did pivot and asked him about China, to which Petraeus responded simply, well, we need to deter the Chinese.
The Chinese are not going to be deterred by the arsenal of democracy being out of business.
And that's where we are at the moment, very substantially.
We're trying to replenish javelins and stingers.
We can't do it fast enough.
steve bannon
Did Mark also ask him, hey, did Mark also ask him, hey, I understand you're vice chairman of KKR.
I'm sure that has nothing to do with your position.
I think we've got to contain the Chinese, right?
We've got to go to a shooting war in Ukraine and let's pour it all in.
We need more weapons.
But we've got to contain, that has nothing to do with my day job, which is being a vice chairman of KKR.
The thing today at 1 o'clock, your event today at 1 o'clock, the webinar, how do people get there?
We need everybody to turn out.
These things are amazing and they're free.
frank gaffney
Register today.
The webinar is tomorrow at 1 o'clock.
It's the beginning of a new series we're doing of webinars sponsored by the Committee on the Present Danger of China.
With your help, Steve, we've been doing weekly, now for several months, One's visiting about the nature of the unrestricted warfare that the Chinese Communist Party is waging against us most recently, as you say, in the Western Pacific.
We'll have one next week on Latin America.
But we decided that we needed to have a separate series, which is going to run on Tuesdays at 1 p.m.
Eastern Time, that's focusing on the USA betrayed.
We're going to be looking at the people who are selling us out and how they're doing it, the first of which is tomorrow.
Selling U.S.
strategic oil reserves to the CCP is selling out America.
And we're going to talk about this with fabulous guys like Sam Faddis, Kevin Freeman, Jim Fennell, and Dave Walsh about how bad this is and what we better be doing about it.
steve bannon
Wow.
Amazing.
Gaffney, 11 o'clock show here on Real America's Voice.
How else do people get to you?
frank gaffney
That's the most important thing.
Watch the show at 11 p.m.
Eastern Time, if you can.
SecuringAmerica.tv gives you more information about it.
We've got wonderful resources.
PresentDangerChina.org is where you can register today for tomorrow's webinar, and also SecureFreedom.org, our site at the Center for Security Policy, where our Team B report is to be found.
You can also find it at ccpatwar.org which is what's afoot.
steve bannon
Well, Frank Gaffney, thanks so much.
We'll push this tomorrow.
Everybody on that webinar tomorrow, what a murderer's row of experts.
Captain Fennell and Dave Walsh, wow, amazing.
Okay, Frank, thank you.
We got Darren Beatty up now.
Darren, first off, I gotta go to the, let's talk about the Hoffs situation at Gateway Pundit.
You've been arguing about this, you've been arguing this for a long time.
Is this the blockbuster we think it is?
darren j beattie
Well, I still need to go through it in detail, but it certainly sounds pretty explosive.
Just as a bit of background for this, quite a while back the New York Times basically confirmed Revolver's reporting in acknowledging that there was at least two informants on the ground on that day within the Proud Boys.
I think it'd be very interesting to cross-reference and see if the informant in question in the Gateway Exposé is one of those informants mentioned in the New York Times.
steve bannon
But, but, ho, whoa, whoa, whoa, hang on, ho, ho.
You are hammering and doing original research and breaking all these stories.
Rahim's coming in and giving analysis, they're breaking stories.
And the New York Times, I think it was on a Saturday, does a big article and down, like, in the 10th paragraph, They have one line, right?
By the way, there were two FBI informants.
It's called the buried lead.
But that's how the New York Times, this is how they do it.
The FBI goes to the Times and says, hey, we need some air cover here.
Revolver and National Police, they're all over us.
So we want to make sure we Ben Smith this, it's called, put it out there.
They said, oh yeah, New York Times talked about that a year and a half ago.
There's no big deal, nothing to see here.
Move along.
Darren Beattie.
darren j beattie
Well, just something really quick that's important for everyone to understand is that the Proud Boys, according to the official narrative, basically kicked off the decisive initial breach of the Capitol grounds, that iconic footage of the fencing and so forth.
But what Revolver's thesis has been from the beginning, particularly as promoted in our big Ray Epps series pieces, is that this is not the real story.
That in fact, there was a crucial and decisive breach team that was present at the Peace Monument, the location of that initial breach They were present even before the Proud Boys and that they played an essential and indispensable role in the initial breach and in various measures turning the rally into a riot through various crowd control mechanisms.
That includes Ray Epps, it includes the as of yet unidentified Scaffold Commander, it includes the Fence Cutter who is methodically cutting fences.
They were all hanging out at the Peace Monument Before the Proud Boys even got there.
So I think the fact that this informant was part of the Proud Boys is very interesting, because the Proud Boys are currently sort of the fall guys for this initial breach, when actually the initial breach took place as a result of a breach team, the key members of which remain unindicted and unarrested.
steve bannon
Yeah, okay.
Please stick around.
I know you're busy, but I gotta get to the Elon Musk of it all on Twitter.
We're packed all the way in.
I'm telling my team I'm getting some eye rolls here.
We're gonna get it all in, some knitted brows.
We're gonna get it all in.
Everybody take a deep breath.
You're in the War Room.
Return with Darren Beatty, Revolver.News in a second.
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steve bannon
Okay.
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And I'll be walking through my logic of that.
As we build this case against us.
It's a big part of the administrative state.
Okay, Darren Beatty, we had a special on the administrative state.
Over the weekend with the great Mike Davis, the feedback we got from people was amazing.
It was quite detailed.
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Right.
steve bannon
We're going to do more of that and start breaking down things every day.
Darren Beatty is one of the one of the battering rams on this.
Darren, we're going to get back to you later on this explosive story in the Gateway Pundit, maybe this afternoon, tomorrow.
But I think it's very important we get the Revolver News deconstruction of this since you guys have been the tip of the spear.
But I got to go back and I know you're broken hearted.
So, you know, my sympathy for Twitter.
But it's something deeper.
And this is what I'm saying I think we have to do.
You know, now you're going to have... CNBC's got a thing, the eight different outcomes of the Elon Musk thing.
Look, Elon Musk did a great public service.
And what he did is expose this thing as a con and a scam.
The bots are the business.
They have not been truthful for anybody.
We have to understand what has been the government's involvement in this, what was DARPA's involvement in this, what relationships they have with the government, relationships they have with the intelligence community, what relations they have with global intelligence.
This is not a conspiracy at all.
We need a congressional investigation with those guys under oath right there.
To be able to tell the American people and to show documents.
You can't leave this to Elon Musk and some due diligence where they're blowing him off.
Oh yeah, well you know, it's 5%, it's 10%.
Elon Musk called him out and said, hey, Elon Musk is the Thomas Edison of his generation.
I'm no fan of his, but he's a brilliant engineer and anybody that knows him will say that.
He does the back of the envelope calculation.
He goes, you know, I kind of think maybe 85% of your business is bots.
Darren Beattie, what has to happen here, sir?
darren j beattie
Well, I think there needs to be a major investigation into this.
And in fact, you're right.
Elon has done a great public service, notwithstanding the apparent failure of his effort to ultimately acquire Twitter at a satisfactory price and under satisfactory conditions.
But he's done a great service in terms of lending his voice to the importance of free speech and also Kind of forcing the exercise and the general public to think what Twitter actually is.
What is it as this global public square?
A lot of people use terms like spam and bots and things like this, and those are important when you're looking at just the pure sort of business model of Twitter.
But as revolver.news has exposed, among others, is that Twitter is actually a hotbed for intelligence-funded influence operations. That's probably one of its chief value from the perspective of major stakeholders in the regime.
And in fact, one of the most explosive pieces Revolver.News ever ran, which is up at the very top of the site right now, exposed a group called the Integrity Initiative.
And the famed Nina Yankovich of the ill-fated Disinformation Governance Board was a part of this organization.
And basically what it was, was it was a NATO and U.S.
government funded organization that conducted secret influence operations on Twitter in order to interfere with the democratic processes of NATO countries.
Now this is not an isolated event.
Twitter is, as I said, a hotbed for this.
And I'm hopeful that as the Elon situation sheds light on Twitter, we can gain, as the public, a better understanding of exactly how Twitter is used by various intelligence agencies to manipulate the public and control information flows in ways that are really scandalous from the perspective of genuine democratic norms.
steve bannon
So, these articles right now are up at the top of Revolver, correct?
darren j beattie
Yes.
Number two position, our fresh piece on how as bad as things are in Biden's America, things are a lot worse in the rest of the world.
So, America's still got a fighting chance.
That new piece is up at number one.
The number two piece is for everyone who missed our explosive expose of the Integrity Initiative.
You need to go and read that now because this is absolutely the blueprint For how influence operations work, how the intelligence agencies run these operations, and how the whole disinformation industry came into being.
It is a seminal piece and it is a must-read, so go there now and read it if you haven't, and if you have, share it with somebody you know.
steve bannon
Just also, I think, when these hearings take place, because they're going to take place, when these hearings take place, you, Darren Beattie, would recommend this not be the Commerce or one of these IT or something like that.
You believe, actually, this should be either the Intelligence Committee or some sort of national security, because this, what Twitter represents, is an issue of national security.
Am I correct in that understanding from you, sir?
darren j beattie
Absolutely.
I think from the national security stakeholders of our regime and various allies, Twitter is absolutely considered to be a key national security asset, a key intelligence asset.
Because, just think about it, it makes sense.
If Twitter is indeed the global public square, which it basically is, controlling information flows on the global public square be of paramount importance to intelligence agencies.
And so having that as an American company that's flexible to the whims of the American national security state is absolutely crucial for all kinds of influence operations and acts of public diplomacy to decide whose proxy groups' narratives end up going viral, who gets censored, who goes viral with respect to global conflicts all over the world.
It is a crown jewel To the national security state and that's why they were never gonna give it up easily to somebody like Elon Musk despite his money and influence Darren how do people get to you on social media how they get to revolver?
Revolver dot news white hot right now this this Monday morning and on Twitter.
I'm at Darren J BD revolvers also at getter at revolver news so check us out and Some really nice fresh new stuff right at the top of the page.
steve bannon
No, it's white hot and we're going to get you back on and go through this thing and the Gateway Pundit is a blockbuster.
Timing, the timing is exquisite.
Thank you very much.
Indeed, indeed.
Okay, there was a revolt out in the heartland of this country over the weekend.
If you didn't catch it, you weren't on getter.
The forces of darkness, the Ricketts organization trying to dominate The GOP out in Nebraska and Cornhuskers were not having it.
I'm honored to have Jack Riggins and Todd Watson on.
So guys, and you decide who wants to do it.
Maybe we start with you, Jack, first.
You tee it up.
Tee up Todd.
What happened?
Because this came out as a bolt from the blue.
What happened in Nebraska and why is it important?
unidentified
Yeah, outside of Nebraska, I guess it would be a bolt in the blue, but it's been something that's been brewing for a long time.
Essentially, most Nebraskans, great conservative state, want more control from the people and more say in how we elect conservative representatives, both state, nation, and locally.
steve bannon
And so how did this play out at this convention?
Ty, can you tell me or Jack, you had a state convention.
You had a chairman who was the Ricketts guy.
I hear that you guys had a populist revolt out there and threw the bums out.
unidentified
Yeah.
As Jack said, this has been going on for a long time.
It wasn't tied to any specific race.
I mean, I think the people have been brewing for 10 years.
People in this country really want to dive into personalities.
Um, and it was one specific, it's not really against any one person or any one moment in time.
It's been a decade building where people really haven't had voices or have been listened to.
And so people just rose up not for one specific agenda item.
I mean, everyone wants to defend and protect the constitution, make sure that that's held up and they're tired of platform values not being executed.
And so, I mean, I think people want to read.
into the narrative they want to read into, but it's time Nebraskans, it's time government works for the average Joe and listens to the average Joe and the average Joe has a say and we start winning on issues.
steve bannon
Todd, real quickly, we're going to go to break and we want both of you guys to hang on.
What was the trigger about this?
I understand there's a huge frustration in the grassroots, we hear it every day, that they vote people in and then nothing happens.
Was there any one trigger event?
Why did it happen over this weekend when, quite frankly, inside Nebraska it's brewing, but for outside Nebraska, you know, people are kind of caught unawares by this, particularly, obviously, the Ricketts.
What was there?
We've got 30 seconds.
Was there any triggering event?
unidentified
I think it was a culmination of a bunch of triggers.
There's a lot of work that local counties were trying to get done.
Obviously, Lincoln changed theirs.
I don't want to go into all the details, but there was state party control that wouldn't let counties back certain people.
Counties traditionally did it, but states wanted complete control of who was going to be backed.
And frankly, those we believe, truly believe, And our coalition and local control and trusting our local people to solve their problems locally.
And to do that, they need to have say.
And so, uh, that was kind of a formal problem.
Again, there was formal cutouts of certain people from being involved because they don't like those people or like their messaging.
And you need every Republican involved in the exchange.
You can't isolate people that want to be a part of the process.
steve bannon
Todd and Jack, just hang on.
We're going to take a short commercial break.
We're gonna go back to Nebraska in the war room in just a moment We were blown all through Hong Kong We were burnt till they're all gone We rejoice when there's no more Let's take down the T.T.B.
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steve bannon
Okay, we had a prairie revolt over the weekend in Nebraska.
You've seen them all over the place.
In Texas, in Arizona, things are happening.
The grassroots have finally had a belly full of it, okay?
Enough of the happy talk, enough of the spin, enough of people they get, you work for them, they get an office, and nothing happens.
Remember, since Richard Nixon in the 60s, we've won more elections at every level than we've lost.
And in process, we lost the country.
Okay, now we're going to take it back.
That's okay.
We got this.
But we need to be focused and no more happy talk.
You need action, action, action.
So Jack Riggins and Todd Watson.
Jack, tell me about what happened over the weekend.
unidentified
Yeah, leading up to it, some of the trigger events were the way conservatives in the internal GOP handled congressional races and replacements with Jeff Fortenberry, then leading to a very contentious conservative gubernatorial primary.
And so people were cued into, I don't know if this is how we want to do business moving forward.
That then led to the convention where there was censorship attempted by the party's old leadership, of which promptly the people overturned quickly, because this is not what conservatives do.
And the general feeling that we the people and grassroots need more say in how conservative platform items are pushed going forward in this state.
Make no mistake about it, we're here to elect conservative Republicans, but we can't have Republicans that are going to abstain from Second Amendment votes in our state legislature or anywhere.
So we will get the party unified here in Nebraska on conservative platform values, and as we put our leadership team together, we'll work with our already elected officials and the candidates to get this right.
And don't forget, just to add on to that, you're right.
It's bigger than censorship.
You had duly elected delegates by the citizens with voting power.
They tried to strip from being able to vote solely over what they've said online.
So it's a free speech violation and stripping voting rights.
This is something we see from the left, but this was coming from within our own party.
That was the final nail in the coffin and people had had enough.
You don't take people's voting rights.
This is scary stuff when that happens.
steve bannon
Todd, before I let you guys go, we want to have you back to drill down on this deeper.
What lessons, we hear the reason this thing became big over the weekend, I mean people are going, wow, look what they're doing out in Nebraska.
What lessons should the grassroots around the country take for what you folks accomplished by overthrowing the Ricketts apparatus, or at least part of it, in the establishment in Nebraska this weekend?
What lessons are learned here?
unidentified
For me, the people that have run statewide races, I'm being one of them, and there's many others, we have built the network of people that truly love this country, love our Constitution, and love our values.
And it had to be grassroots and we work together.
The network channels are really controlled by the power structures and there's a lot of tie-ins with most media.
I will not say all media.
And so it's hard to get your word out there.
So you really have to network with local people.
So organize the people that have been around your state and made the contacts that truly believe in the Constitution and work together.
And I will just say on the power of the people in Lancaster County, when we took over that party, The conservative party was all but floundering.
We've got neighborhood captains that are out, 300 volunteers for Get Out the Vote, Republican turnout jumped from 27% to 47%, and we've got the people engaged.
You can make a difference.
You have to get into your constitutions, you have to sign up to be delegates, and you have to participate in democracy.
Know the rules.
steve bannon
Jack, what is your social media?
How do people follow you?
Then I want to go to Todd, but Jack, give us all your coordinates so people can follow you.
unidentified
Yeah, on most of the major platforms, I'm Riggins underscore Jack.
On True Social, I am Riggins J, and you can email me at CommanderJack at klin.com.
steve bannon
Todd?
unidentified
Yeah, primarily I was Watson from Nebraska, but since I've been around a while I've been so censored.
But Watson from Nebraska on Facebook.
Best way is to get a hold of Jack.
You can direct people to get a hold of me.
steve bannon
I love it.
Riggins and Watson from out in Nebraska.
A couple of Cornhuskers.
Guys, thank you so much and thank you for the fantastic work you've done.
Inspiration.
unidentified
God bless America.
steve bannon
Thank you, man.
Amen.
Before I get Bossy in here, let me get Fincham so I can have Bossy review both of them, because Bossy knows about the situation.
Fincham, a blockbuster story last night, and you can't make this up.
Katie Hobbs is, I think she's a contributor, I actually thought she was going to get the Rachel Maddow slot.
Because more than even the Jenna Griswold, Katie Hobbs is up there and she's saying this and she's talking about the election and these Trump people are all insurrectionists and this is all, they're all bad people and you know they're trying to steal elections and everything's perfect.
You know, we were perfect out here in 2020 in Arizona, and I'm the Grand Poobah.
I'm showing them how it's done around the world.
In fact, I'm so great, I'm going to run for governor.
Katie Hobbs this, Katie Hobbs that, Katie Hobbs everything.
She's on here lecturing every day on MSNBC.
She and Jenna Griswold.
But she's actually the senior partner.
I actually think Griswold's the junior partner, right?
Katie Hobbs this, Katie Hobbs that.
She's got the big crocodile tears coming down.
Then over the weekend, brother, you're breaking the story.
What happened in Pinal County?
What happened to your ballots?
And why is Katie Hobbs the first one out there saying, hey, it's not my problem.
I have nothing to do with this.
And Fincham is a bad guy, so he's going to try to stick it with me.
Tell our audience first what actually happened and then tell me about the Katie Hobbs of it all.
mark finchem
Yeah, so thanks for having me on, Steve.
You can't make this stuff up.
Pinal County, Mailed out their mail-out ballots with no municipal offices on the ballot.
None.
None of the city, I mean, we've got Coolidge, Eloy, Maricopa City, Stanfield, all of those municipal offices were missing from the ballot.
None of them on the ballot.
It was approved by the Board of Supervisors.
It was approved by the Elections Director and Ms.
Perfect herself, Katie Hopps.
steve bannon
It's not funny, and I don't mean to laugh, because, correct me if I'm wrong, voting already started.
This is a debacle.
Should she resign?
I just gotta ask this question.
Should she resign immediately as Secretary of State?
The buck stops with her, is that correct, Mark Fincham?
mark finchem
That's my opinion, but we still have a general election.
It has become such a mess, such a goat rodeo, that Not really sure how we unwind this.
Now, of course, there's a recovery plan that the Board of Supervisors are putting together, but that's not the point.
I mean, this is a major screw up.
And if you had a Secretary of State who was on the ball, who was process oriented, who went through the checklist and made sure that everything was on the ballot that should be on the ballot, if you held the Board of Supervisors and the Elections Director and the County Reporter accountable for the law, because this is a violation of law after all.
You would be able to maybe restore faith in the American people's mind?
steve bannon
You can't.
mark finchem
Certainly not now.
steve bannon
The folks in Pinal County are just to say, the pox on her, hold it, real quickly, she's running for governor, I got that, but should she resign immediately with her current job as Secretary of State today because of incompetence?
mark finchem
I think she should.
steve bannon
Real quickly, Mark, you've got a minute.
In 60 seconds, how does this get turned around?
And is there anything else in the state that's going to blow up right now?
mark finchem
Yeah, well, I don't know.
I mean, we've had two county recorders resign, Yuma County and Yavapai County.
I'm kind of waiting for another shoe to drop.
Who's going to be the next one to resign?
Perhaps Pinell County.
The recovery plan could be one of two things.
Hold a special election, because it's still 90-some-plus days, 100 days before the general election, or place those offices on the general election ballot.
But here's the problem.
Those folks will be technically out of office until replaced.
I mean, this is a problem.
steve bannon
It's a mess.
mark finchem
It is a mess, and there are some people that should resign over it.
steve bannon
Fincham, real quickly, we'll have you back.
This thing's a mess.
We're going to drill down more of it.
How do people get to you on social media?
Because you're running to be the Secretary of State to sort things out.
How do people get to you?
mark finchem
If they go to VoteFincham.com, that's V-O-T-E-F-I-N-C-H-E-M.com, all of the social media bugs are up there in the upper right hand corner.
They can also click on news and they'll see everything from this interview to every interview that I've ever done.
I try to be the most transparent candidate out there.
Just so that people know where I'm coming from and that I'm consistent in what I say.
steve bannon
Trump endorsed, and boy, you got a job ahead of you.
Katie Hobbs is a disaster.
She's now humiliated on national stage.
If she had any sense of honor, she would resign.
Just run for governor.
Just do your governor thing, but resign right now.
You're clearly not doing your job.
Fincham, thank you so much for breaking away today to do this.
Do I have Bossy?
Do I have Bossy?
Okay, I don't have Bossy, which you told me I did.
Okay, do I have Tucker?
So I just got myself.
Okay, fine.
unidentified
This is not the way this show is supposed to go, but we'll do this.
Okay.
steve bannon
OK, let me get to Jeffrey Tucker here in a second.
This thing in Arizona, and you're seeing this all over the place, but this is where you got the Katie Hobbs of the world.
Remember, she should get a contributorship at MSNBC.
She's lecturing you all the time about these are the best elections, the fairest elections, the most transparent elections.
You know, it's St.
Katie all the time.
Right?
And here you can't even run.
Poor folks in Pinal County, what are they supposed to do?
How do you possibly not have, how do you possibly not have the local elections on there?
The municipal elections.
How do you not do that?
How does that happen?
It boggles the mind.
Okay, let's go.
We've solved our technical problem.
Let's go to Dave Bossie.
Dave, give me your summary of what happened in Nebraska over the weekend.
This is monumental, sir.
What happened?
Okay, that's not quite working like we want it to work.
Is he getting more mute?
Okay, that's okay.
It's fine.
I can go ahead and do a rant or get Jeffrey Tucker up.
Okay, maybe we'll just go back to my rant.
For the election situation, blockbuster news out in Wisconsin about the mail-in ballots, right?
What happened?
And I think President Trump's 100% correct.
If you take what happened in what we've already had rulings in Wisconsin, From the Supreme Court.
And remember, there was a 4-3 vote.
If this vote with the same guy had happened, I think, in December of 2020, we wouldn't have been having any of these discussions on J6.
Because the Biden electors would have been decertified.
We've got that.
I don't think there's that big a change from what these guys ruled on back when they first ruled and lost 4-3 because the John Roberts of Wisconsin didn't have enough guts to stamp the first time.
If you read the dissenting opinions at the Supreme Court level in Wisconsin, they lay the whole thing out how it was stolen.
Now they've just codified it this time that it can't happen again.
You see in Arizona, and Mike Lindell and Carrie Lakin Fincham are in court right now to get the machines banned, but here you got Katie Hobbs and there's, you know, Maricopa County just votes the other day, unanimous, Maricopa County unanimously votes on the Republican side to decertify the Biden electors, to decertify the Biden vote.
Right?
And now you've got Katie Hobbs over the weekend.
And here's the thing I got with Katie Hobbs.
She won't take responsibility.
In the very first news stories that come out, Katie Hobbs is down there saying, it's not my responsibility.
These are local guys.
I'm only Secretary of State.
I'm only supposed to be the person to be all over the elections in the state.
But this is not my problem.
This is not my deal.
Okay?
I tell you what, we're going to take a short commercial break.
We're going to be back.
I think we're going to get Jeffrey Tucker from Brownstone.
Jeffrey had a brilliant piece over the weekend.
Something that's very close to my heart.
Monticello and Thomas Jefferson.
He took the tour up there.
He's got a lot to talk about.
We'll take a short commercial break.
We'll be back with Jeffrey Tucker in just a moment.
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Okay, I want to make sure everybody gets on getter, because I'm doing a continual stream of analysis, articles, breaking down things, putting up graphs, charts, details.
We've got the rest of the team up there, too, but it's a great way for you guys to do show prep, to share things later, to get a deeper understanding of what we're trying to accomplish here at The War Room.
I've got Jeffrey Tucker on.
I've got this article of the New York Post off an article in the Epoch Times, my beloved Commonwealth of Virginia.
Just coming off the 4th of July also with, you know, the John Adams series, 1776, everybody going back and looking at the Declaration of Independence, thinking what happened.
Jeffrey, the unique and brilliant Jeffrey Tucker goes to Monticello.
Tell us about it because For people from the Commonwealth that are familiar with this, we understand there's been a problem for years, but a lot of folks thought it might be getting turned around.
You have not been there in 20 years.
Tell exactly what your trip was like to the revered home of Thomas Jefferson.
jeffrey tucker
I didn't expect any of this, because I went 20 years ago.
I was filled with grandeur and majesty and a great tribute to the great man, and I was looking to get away from the Smithsonian, which is already completely wrecked.
Which is another story in itself.
So, you figure driving out to rural Virginia, you can get away from wokeness, but the very opposite hit me pretty quickly.
I mean, it took me a while to grasp what was going on here, but there's nothing about the great Thomas Jefferson going on there.
On the contrary, the entire tour was devoted to debunking his memory.
And leaving the impression that he was nothing but a hypocrite.
And there's some words that I wouldn't even use on your show to describe what they were trying to do.
And people were asking questions, reasonable questions.
You know, did Thomas Jefferson invent this?
Did he do that?
And the tour guides were clearly trained just to shoot down every bit of homage to the man.
You know, with, oh, he never invented anything.
His reputation as an inventor is wildly overrated.
And all piety was entirely reserved for Sally Hemings, of course.
And, you know, we're supposed to just bow down in adoration and worship.
steve bannon
How did they get away from the mind of Jefferson?
Not just the lead writer of the Declaration, but the writer of the Declaration with the committee.
But how did they get away from all the inventions, everything?
You thought, I mean, even Franklin.
unidentified
I don't know.
jeffrey tucker
Honestly, I'm not sure the last time you've been there, Steve, but I remembered the opening portico when you walk in.
There's the high place for Voltaire and Turgot, A. R. J. Turgot, the great French liberal who warned against high taxes and that sort of thing.
I think his interlocutor in that case was Louis XV.
But, and so clearly Jefferson revered these great men, but for some reason, the whole opening of the foyer there is just strewn with bric-a-brac, and I don't understand why, but pelts hanging over the staircase and various things tacked up on the wall everywhere so you couldn't even tell, and the heads of Voltaire and Turgot had underneath them
You know, some folk art that Jefferson allegedly collected as a gift from Columbia, but it was placed right underneath Voltaire and Turgot, which wasn't there before.
But the place was not decorated the way you would expect Jefferson, who was an entertaining diplomat from all over the world, to decorate his home.
So that was the first thing.
It looked like a bric-a-brac store, a rummage sale, you know?
And so they take away that, and then you go to the next room, which is, you know, the octagonal music room, and there's the harpsichord, but you can't look at anything else because you're distracted by this modern work of art that they commissioned to put there, which is some sort of, you know, a non-binary crazy man without a face, just tar for a face, and they're celebrating this great artist, you know, who's a graduate of the Yale
A school of art or something like that.
And that distracts from everything else in the room.
And this is just the beginning, right?
You can't go anywhere on the property these days without being bombarded by what an exploiter, white male patriarch monster he was.
The bookstore doesn't carry any of the traditional biographies.
Nothing.
steve bannon
No traditional biographies of Jefferson?
Jeffrey, we've only got a couple minutes, but I've got to ask you.
There's a foundation, a famous foundation, that actually, I think, owns it and runs it.
Is this coming from the top down, do you think?
jeffrey tucker
Well, what happened was there's a guy associated with the founder of the Carlyle Group, you know, which is kind of an investment firm.
They learned how to drop little bits of money to control old institutions.
And they had clearly applied that to Monticello.
They dropped $19 million on the place.
And began to dictate what they wanted to do, so the entire thing is owned by the Carlyle Group nowadays.
And yes, it's private, but, you know, there's a term I think we need to start using.
Not philanthropy, but malanthropy.
You know?
You're giving private money to do evil.
That's clearly what's happened.
The Carlyle Group has taken over the entire place.
It's deeply offensive to American sensibilities, and actually, Steve, I would say, deeply dangerous to liberty itself.
I mean, for hundreds of years, Thomas Jefferson's writings and influence have been immense in emancipating billions of people around the world from tyrants and despotism.
You tear this man down, you're doing dangerous things to liberty.
It's also really demoralizing for Americans because Thomas Jefferson's legacy is hugely important to us as a people and a nation.
And you target that and you take that away from us?
unidentified
That's Orwell stuff, you know?
steve bannon
It's meant to be demoralizing.
We're going to get more into this.
Okay, Jeffrey, how do people get to the Brownstone?
You guys are doing incredible work.
How do they get to you?
jeffrey tucker
Thank you.
It's brownstone.org and I always like people to sign up for our email list because that's a great way for us to Stay in contact with you.
We were only about a year old, but we've been doing great work, and thanks to your help, too.
steve bannon
Incredible work.
Jeffrey, thank you so much.
We're going to drill down more on the Carlisle Group, the takeover of Monticello.
Jeffrey's right.
Very dangerous, not just to the United States, but to freedom throughout the world.
Jefferson, a towering figure, brought down by the woke left.
We're not going to stand for it.
Back at 5 o'clock tonight to 7.
We'll be on fire.
That I guarantee you.
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