July 9, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back on the day after the assassination of Prime Minister Abe, and all of our females go out to the people in Japan. | ||
| This is President Trump, a very close ally to President Trump. | ||
| We're here for a special for the couple hours we're going to do Deconstructing the Administrative State. | ||
| as two leaders of nationalist leaders, right? | ||
| Modi, Abe, and Trump about Trump making Japan great again and up our ring. | ||
| We're here for a special for the couple hours we're going to do, Deconstructing the Administrative State. | ||
| I had to get Peter in here. | ||
| Peter, given your idea of economic nationalism and understanding that we've got to take on the CCP, before I get into the administrative state, I want to take a second so people can hear your thoughts. | ||
| Thoughts on Abe, this horrible assassination in Nara, Japan yesterday. | ||
| President Trump put out some incredible words of how close they were. | ||
| Give us a couple of thoughts on, because you had to go negotiate. | ||
| They're tough negotiators. | ||
| You had to go negotiate the trade. | ||
| After all the golf and the nice dinners, you had to get into the nuts and bolts. | ||
| Talk about Abe, and Abe is really the Donald Trump of Japan. | ||
| Steve, it broke my heart to see that news. | ||
| I've sat in the same room with Shinzo Abe and the president. | ||
| They had a wonderful chemistry between them. | ||
| The bond between them was in part forged by the mutual concern of the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| The United States is under aggressive, aggressive attack from the Chinese Communist Party, but we're not as close as Japan is, and Japan is relatively more vulnerable. | ||
| So I saw that. | ||
| It was interesting from a trade point of view. | ||
| Abe was an unabashed economic populist and a nationalist. | ||
| And for that reason, he was as tough in resisting the president's efforts to level the trade floor with Japan as Trump was in trying to push Abe to basically improve our trade deficit. | ||
| Japan, I mean, look, Japan as a trading partner for the U.S. | ||
| is a horrible trading partner because it screws us in so many different ways. | ||
| But part of that is because of nationalists like Abe in Japan who are Trump-like in their ability to fight back. | ||
| This is a real loss for the world. | ||
| It's a loss because he was one of the most important voices in Japan in getting some backbone into the Japanese government and the Japanese people to stand up. | ||
| Well, particularly, I mean, you had to deal with this, particularly to take on the CCP in defense of the South China Sea, East China Sea, and Taiwan. | ||
| The Senkaku Islands. | ||
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Yes. | |
| He wanted to get... Look, Japan, Steve, you know this, is split. | ||
| You've got not the doves of Japan, just like I've got the doves in Taiwan, who want to somehow accommodate the Chinese Communist Party, despite all evidence that indicates there's no way you can ever satisfy the Chinese Communist beast. | ||
| They're just going to devour you. | ||
| And it took a while, just like, I mean, I think it's fair to say what Trump and Abe had most in common was each of them were the leaders who brought their own people consciousness up to recognizing the existential threat that the Chinese Communist Party is. | ||
| Trump did that here. | ||
| It was a sea change in attitudes in this government, in this country. | ||
| Same thing that Abe achieved thousands of miles away. | ||
| Real quickly, you know, to talk about the apparatus, but I want to tell you about this something, and I haven't had a chance to talk to you about this, but there's this bill that's now about the semiconductors. | ||
| You and I continue to talk about Silicon Valley West. | ||
| Abe was obviously very concerned about the exposure of Taiwan. | ||
| This is why they were upgrading their military. | ||
| This is why he wanted to get the clause out of there about they were supposed to be pacifists, to really let them have a military that had some punch. | ||
| Taiwan has been, you know, of our focus, your focus, myself, for many years. | ||
| You were in the Oval arguing all the time. | ||
| You were pushed back by some of the guys in the Economic Council who says, no, we've got to let free markets work. | ||
| There's now this bill that's, and it's very complicated because they're trying to, Mitch McConnell's trying to cut deals where he, and I think he's doing, my thought's he's doing a good job here. | ||
| He's trying to thwart them to get this Build Back Better thing done. | ||
| By using some of the tricks, the administrative tricks, the process tricks. | ||
| But he's trying to get this bill through that gives, I think, $50 billion to the semiconductor industry to start to bring semiconductor manufacturing back here. | ||
| And Intel and some other guys said, hey, I can't build it in Ohio, I can't build it in Arizona until this is approved. | ||
| A lot of people, and a lot of people in our chat are saying, no, you don't need this. | ||
| This is just more of the administrative state. | ||
| This is a bigger bureaucracy. | ||
| This is state-owned industries. | ||
| You're picking national champions. | ||
| You fought this fight in front of the Resolute Desk with Donald Trump and some of the advisors. | ||
| Walk us through, what's really at stake here? | ||
| And more importantly, what does this bill entail right now? | ||
| Because the two things, I'll tell people, the two things this summer that are going to happen or not happen is Mike Davis's tech breakup of big tech, right? | ||
| That antitrust provision and the semiconductor bill. Those are the two that don't get a lot of talk, but for signal not noise, these are important. Peter Navarro. | ||
| See, there are really two battles I fought in the White House, which I thought were at the top of the list of a combination of economic and national security. | ||
| The first was the battle that's ongoing over what's called essential medicines. | ||
| These are the things we need to not only fight pandemics, but to keep this country healthy. | ||
| And the practical matter here is that all three stages of production of essential medicines are controlled in part by India and then in larger part by China. | ||
| And getting those facilities back on shore was a key mission of mine. | ||
| I was able to get an executive order signed in August of 2020 that sort of pushed us towards that. | ||
| But I did have some administrative state problems with that. | ||
| But we're a long way from that. | ||
| And of course, the opposition was the usual suspects. | ||
| Big Pharma, the corporate globalist, the party of Davos, who want to save pennies by offshoring jobs and production. | ||
| And they don't want to have anything to do with having secure supply chains here. | ||
| Having said that, the second big battle was the battle over the US. | ||
| Over chips and it was unfortunate that Larry Kudlow got put in charge of that because he could never make up his mind as to what he wanted to do and that led to fundamental inertia. | ||
| We have to recognize that chips are what makes the modern international economies go. | ||
| And we also have to acknowledge that we've shut down much of our capacity here for both cheap labor, slave labor reasons and environmental reasons. | ||
| Peter, we don't have what we need to. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| We've got a country in recession with a 1.6 drop in the first quarter and it looks like a 1.9 or 2.0 in the second quarter. | ||
| We lost control and access to the advanced chip design and chip production facilities in Taiwan. | ||
| From an economic point of view, what do you think the drop in the American economy would be? | ||
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5%, 10%, 20%? | |
| Sir? | ||
| You know, pick a number, but the point is that if we lose that, it's not just the loss in economic growth we have, it's also the national security issues of the vulnerabilities we have. | ||
| We can't run, you know, our F-35s won't be able to fly. | ||
| We won't be able to get modern weapons systems out. | ||
| We won't be able to run our trains on time as those supplies go down. | ||
| And then we'll be subject to the blackmail of whoever controls those supply chains, which will inevitably be China and India. | ||
| And, you know, look, I know you're a Modi fan and all that, but make no mistake about it. | ||
| Modi is an economic nationalist as well. | ||
| We're seeing him Let me say one thing here. | ||
| I've got the photo up on my Getter account. | ||
| It's got Abe on one side, Modi on the other, and Trump in the middle. | ||
| Let me be blunt. | ||
| And Navarro knows this as the lead negotiator. | ||
| I love Abe and I love Modi. | ||
| And I love Trump. | ||
| But all three of those guys, if you're India, you want Modi at the table for you. | ||
| If you're Japan, you want Abe. | ||
| If you're United States of America, you want Trump. | ||
| These guys put their country first. | ||
| They're not thinking of the UN. | ||
| Their job is to represent their people. | ||
| And these are tough hombres. | ||
| And they're looking for tough deals. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They're looking for tough deals. | ||
| And they're kind of immovable. | ||
| People don't realize what Trump actually... Those guys admire Trump. | ||
| You know who they admire Trump? | ||
| For the first time, they saw American leaders that put the people of the United States in the room. | ||
| I keep saying, not in the room, not in the deal. | ||
| And with Donald Trump, you got put in the room at the head of the table. | ||
| Abe respected that. | ||
| Modi respected that. | ||
| And even with that, Navarro, you know how tough it is to deal with these guys. | ||
| They're essentially immovable, sir. | ||
| Well, if you take India, for example, I used to call them the Maharaja of tariffs. | ||
| They actually have the highest tariffs in the world relative to American products. | ||
| And I had this thing that the boss loved. | ||
| He talked about it in the State of the Union speech, the Reciprocal Trade Act, which basically said, hey, it would have given the president the power. | ||
| If some country has tariffs that are higher than ours, they either got to lower them down to ours or we can raise them to theirs. | ||
| That, like, that overnight, that would have, like, cut the legs out from the Modi's and the Abe's and the Chinese Communist Party and everybody around the world. | ||
| But we couldn't get that done. | ||
| That's the difference between the United States of America and places like Indian Communist China and Europe, right? | ||
| Those folks, at the end of the day, act Like nationalists and we're always willing to give give too much to these other countries for whatever reason and you know I buried the lead in this whole discussion in the sense of you talked about McConnell trying to use the 50 billion build back better dollars and things like that. | ||
| I designed with Tyler Goodspeed, the then Council of Economic Advisors chairman, we had a beautiful, we called it the Trump Trillion, which was part of that macroeconomic stimulus that Meadows and Mnuchin couldn't get past, that basically would have done everything you're talking about, Steve. | ||
| It would have been not just semiconductors and essential medicines. | ||
| It would have been bringing all of our manufacturing back onshore, which is really the key to controlling inflation, protecting our flanks internationally in wartime and everything in between. | ||
| If we haven't figured out in this country that we need to onshore our production, whatever it may be, and especially chips and essential medicines, then people haven't been listening. | ||
| But we're in a situation now, in a regime, where they just don't think that way. | ||
| I mean, that guy the other day for the Biden regime who says the liberal global order is at stake. | ||
| I mean, are you kidding me? | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| That's about as far from Trump land as it can possibly get. | ||
| I know the theme of the show today is the administrative state, and I can give you a chapter and verse across whether it's the Department of Transportation, whether it was the Pentagon, whether it was the CDC, the FDA, whatever. | ||
| Every time I turned, and this was a surprise to me, that the power of this deep administrative state to thwart The populist economic agenda, the American agenda, the Make America Great agenda, it's like unbelievably powerful. | ||
| And that's why it's so important to get Trump back in the White House, because we know what to do now. | ||
| We know what to do now. | ||
| You unleash people like Johnny McAtee, and we would just wipe that administrative state out and put good people in there and police that. | ||
| But that's not where we're at. | ||
| We're miles from that. | ||
| Peter, hang on. | ||
| Hang on one second. | ||
| Short break. | ||
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Peter and Dr. Viral Jones on the other side. | |
| Bring it on and now we'll fight to the end. | ||
| Just watch and see. | ||
| It's all started. | ||
| Everything's begun. | ||
| And you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP. | ||
| Spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
| We will fight till they're all gone. | ||
| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
| Let's take down the CTD. | ||
| They have all lied for too long. | ||
| We will end what they do wrong. | ||
| Spread the word of the wrong. | ||
| Come, let's take down the CTV. | ||
| The bullet's flying in too long now. | ||
| War Room, pandemic, with Stephen K. Bannerman. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We got Dr. Peter Navarro. | ||
| Navarro, I want to make sure everybody understands, we talked this cutesy term, which I've never loved, the swamp, draining the swamp, the whole thing, we're going to take off two regulations for one regulation, thinking people are bureaucrats, folks don't understand. | ||
| That's not what Washington is. | ||
| They have created, since the Roosevelt administration, and World War II, and the Great Society, and Republicans have been just as bad at looking the other way on this. | ||
| There is a fourth branch of government that the Founders never envisioned. | ||
| It's called the Administrative State. | ||
| Okay, this is a permanent bureaucracy like Mike Davis said my co-host has 3 million People in it and what there's I think actually 4,000 political appointees 3,000 that don't need Senate confirmation a thousand that need Senate confirmation So it takes forever to get people through then as you know on boarded dr. Navarro cuz you're at the White House so in this this administrative state you saw it in the first Impeachment. | ||
| When they're sitting there talking about this fetish with the interagency process, and they got the glow in their face, and Trump didn't like the interagency process. | ||
| He's saying, hey dude, he's commander-in-chief. | ||
| Look at Roosevelt. | ||
| Roosevelt had 50 guys running the government. | ||
| He's calling them up and talking. | ||
| Did Roosevelt use the interagency process? | ||
| No. | ||
| It is a fetish for these people now because it's the way the system works. | ||
| You fought it every day. | ||
| And the reason I wanted to have you on here, and we only got one segment with you left, You're the manufacturing guy. | ||
| And Peter Navarro, as you can tell on the show, he's like a bulldog. | ||
| I mean, he's like a dog with a bone. | ||
| He's worse than Davis, okay? | ||
| These guys are grinders. | ||
| But I got to tell you, Peter, when the pandemic started, you saw a different aspect of the administrative state when you met Tony Fauci for the first time, right? | ||
| The CDC, the FDA, that bureaucracy. | ||
| is impervious to change, and they roll the way they want to roll, and they don't care what anybody has to say about it. | ||
| They're the epitome of the administrative state. | ||
| Talk to me about Peter Navarro's fight with the administrative state that is the public health bureaucracy of the federal government. | ||
| Okay, the big picture here, Steve, is I can literally talk about every single department in this government, fights I had with them. | ||
| But let me give you a few examples. | ||
| The first one early in the administration was with the Department of Transportation. | ||
| And the issue is called Open Skies. | ||
| The Qatar and the United Arab Emirates absolutely screw the American airline industry with state-owned enterprises, heavy subsidies, and they just put pilots out of work, machinists out of work, and flight attendants. | ||
| I mean, it's an open and shut case of economic aggression. | ||
| And in Trump land, we were going to stop that, right? | ||
| And the first time I convened a meeting on this where we were going to take action, the biggest opponent to doing anything was some career bureaucrat at the Department of Transportation. | ||
| And then I go around the table and it's like, no, we can't do it. | ||
| It's like, no, no, no, you don't understand. | ||
| This is the Trump administration. | ||
| This is our policy. | ||
| And we do it in Trump time. | ||
| OK, this is what we do. | ||
| Right. | ||
| In that case, I was able, eventually, to get done what we needed to do, but I had to literally roll people out of their bureaucratic positions and send them off to Minot in order to do that. | ||
| But you can't continue to have those fights and succeed. | ||
| There's just too many termites in the house. | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| The FDA had legion fights with Steve Hahn, the commissioner, but there was a woman there, Janet Woodcock, who would eventually become the commissioner under Biden. | ||
| And she has blood on her hands, and I talk about this in the In Trump Time book, with respect to hydroxychloroquine. | ||
| The boss says, look, hydroxy might work. | ||
| Get out an emergency order from the FDA so that we can get its use by physicians in early treatment. | ||
| That's the key. | ||
| Because if you get hydroxy early to people with symptoms, it can work. | ||
| If it's late and they're already like 7 to 10 or 14 days into it, it's not going to work. | ||
| What Woodcock did was she jury-rigged and engineered things in a way where down the road she put out an order that limited, limited hydroxychloroquine only to hospitalized patients who were well past the seven-day period where that stuff would work. | ||
| That's blood on her hands, but she did that using the power of the bureaucracy and there wasn't anybody astute enough to be able to fight it at the time because Because things were so bad. | ||
| The third thing is the Department of Justice. | ||
| The Department of Justice needs to be just... I mean, you talk about people wanting to get rid of the EPA or the Department of Education. | ||
| I say we get rid of the whole Department of Justice, because that thing, and I'm pointing because it's right across the street from me. | ||
| Hang on, hang on, hang on. | ||
| Are you coming untethered? | ||
| No, no, no, let me make the point. | ||
| There's a thing called the Office of Legal Counsel. | ||
| God, hold it. | ||
| You can't tell who got arrested. | ||
| No, I'm just kidding. | ||
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No, no, no, no, no. | |
| Let me make this point, Steve. | ||
| It's got nothing to do with that. | ||
| The Office of Legal Counsel, okay, is the bottleneck that every executive order has to go through for form and legality. | ||
| But here's the argument, Peter. | ||
| Look, I want to get to the FDA, but the argument is that the in-house law firm for the government to write the fairness opinions to make sure that every screwy thing that Peter Navarro is trying to do is backed up by the Constitution. | ||
| Remember, the travel ban. | ||
| They jumped all over us, and Trump goes, I don't want to change from the first. | ||
| I want my first. | ||
| It's constitutional. | ||
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Let me just tell the story, because it's a good one. | |
| I'll give you the example here. | ||
| Just hear me out. | ||
| It's like we spent months and months and months and months trying to get through executive orders that eventually got approved, okay? | ||
| It's like months! | ||
| Months! | ||
| And then, when Biden gets in, during the transition, he gets all of these things approved. | ||
| He had, like, more executive orders signed in the first few days of, like, any president. | ||
| I mean, and it was OLC, the Office of Legal Counsel. | ||
| They were a bunch of Democrat, deep state sympathizers, and they used their own bureaucratic power to slow Trump down and accelerate Biden. | ||
| I got five minutes and you got to roll. | ||
| I need you on the... People didn't understand. | ||
| They always thought the CDC, the good guys down in Atlanta, they're telling us when Ebola comes here. | ||
| The FDA's making sure they're not putting poison on the thing. | ||
| You got five minutes. | ||
| Tell me about Peter Navarro, the trade and manufacturing guy, going head-to-head with the administrative state of the public health bureaucracy of the United States government, sir. | ||
| Well, first of all, the CDC's problem in economics is that it's risk averse. | ||
| And that makes it makes it prone to delays and not taking bold actions, which is what you need quick, bold actions during a pandemic. | ||
| So the first screw up they did was on testing. | ||
| They kept testing and the production of the test kits inside the bureaucracy. | ||
| In the early stage of the pandemic, knowing full well that they didn't have the productive capacity to meet the need. | ||
| And not only that, then they screwed up the test itself. | ||
| So that set us back a full month in terms of testing. | ||
| So that was like pure incompetence engineered by people who controlled the process, who were risk averse and screwed everything up. | ||
| When you go to Fauci land, I mean, that's the biggest cover up, I think, in medical history because Fauci dispenses billions of dollars of grants. | ||
| So he has the allegiance not just of the researchers and professors who suck from the Fauci teat, but also all the medical journals who publish all the articles that are based on the research that go to the academics that suck on the teat of Fauci. | ||
| And so when when the virus from China hit Fauci in January of 2020, when I first went head to head with him, he knew damn well that that thing likely came from Wuhan, that it was likely genetically engineered, that he likely paid for it with NIH funds, that it was brought about by a gain of function research, that he got authorized after it had been banned by the Obama administration. | ||
| Fauci in January of 2020, when I first went head-to-head with him, he knew damn well that that thing likely came from Wuhan, that it was likely genetically engineered, that he likely paid for it with NIH funds, that it was brought about by a gain-of-function research, that he got authorized after it had been banned by the Obama administration, and he knew all of that, but because of the power he had within that bureaucracy in the broader scientific | ||
| community, he was allowed not only to suppress that information, but constantly shift the blame for the pandemic, for President Trump, and ultimately contribute to a stolen election. | ||
| And that, I mean, that, I mean, one person with that much power, but like, Hahn was a screw-up, Woodcock at the FDA, Redfield at the CDC, Fauci and Collins at the NIH, and they simply have too much power, Steve, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. | ||
| That's Fauci and Collins in a nutshell, and people died. | ||
| I mean, there's hundreds of thousands of Americans who would be alive today. | ||
| All this is going to come up. | ||
| You're going to see Peter Navarro starting in January. | ||
| I've only got about a minute. | ||
| In Trump time, the book lays out a lot of this. | ||
| If you want to get this, but you got the new book. | ||
| Talk to me about the new book. | ||
| Talk to me about where you can get it. | ||
| And talk to me about where I can get you on social media. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Twitter killer getter is real P. Navarro. | ||
| Let's get that going. | ||
| But the Taking Back Trump's America book is really critical. | ||
| I hope you'll go to Amazon right now and get that because it's both a blueprint and a battle cry, not only for taking back the Trump White House in 2024, but also for getting Pelosi the hell out of the Congress as leader in 2022. | ||
| And that's critical. | ||
| If Pelosi Hangs on to power and is allowed to conduct these hoax investigations, whether the Russia hoax or the Jan 6 hoax or anything in between, going into the 2024 election. | ||
| She will continue to nick and cut. | ||
| It's the Lillie Pushins versus the Trump. | ||
| Juggernaut, and it takes its toll. | ||
| So what Taking Back Trump's America does is talk about how we made it too close enough to steal last time, and how we need to not only win it this time, but govern properly. | ||
| And that's going to mean, over and above else, getting good people into top positions and then cleansing the House, apropos of your theme, Steve. | ||
| So go to Amazon, take him back to Trump's America. | ||
| Take him back to Trump's America. | ||
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You can see Steve Bannon's quote at the top of the book. | |
| Halberstam meets Gonzo Journalism. | ||
| By the way, is Peter Navarro going to be Treasury Secretary or head of the National Economic Council? | ||
| We're going to hold that. | ||
| Peter, thank you so much for being here on our special. | ||
| Go have a great Saturday. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Back with Mike Davis. | ||
| deconstruct the administrative state next. | ||
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We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CCP! | |
| Stay up! | ||
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| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
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| Pandemic. | ||
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| The end of the dollar empire. | ||
| I know the dollar's strong, okay? | ||
| I got that. | ||
| But it's strong versus other fiat currencies. | ||
| It's the world's tallest midget right now. | ||
| What this administration has done in the Federal Reserve by continuing to print so much money is you've got all the other countries in the world that want to get us off of being the prime reserve currency and they're working away and that's going to change everybody's life. | ||
| Find out more about this and start to understand it. | ||
| The end of the dollar empire. | ||
| We're talking about the 19th century. | ||
| A lot of the big political fights were about currency, what is it, who controls it, and central banks. | ||
| That ended with the creation of the Federal Reserve. | ||
| We're talking a lot about that. | ||
| Remember, I'm going to end the Fed guys. | ||
| We're beyond auditing. | ||
| Rand Paul wants to audit. | ||
| I want to end it. | ||
| And we're gonna get there. | ||
| That is a big, that's the cash machine for the administrative state. | ||
| Mike Davis here. | ||
| Mike, in getting nomenclature, particularly with Gorsuch in these justices and judges, they keep asking about this case called the Chevron case. | ||
| Why is that important? | ||
| What does the audience need to know about that when they talk about what Navarro's is? | ||
| To combat this massive, beyond a bureaucracy, really a fourth branch of government that's not in the Constitution, why is the Chevron case important? | ||
| So the Chevron case is from 1984 when the Supreme Court had an EPA case. | ||
| And the Supreme Court held, unbelievably really, that if a statute passed by Congress is ambiguous, or the EPA or another administrative agency claims it's ambiguous, these courts will defer to the EPA in interpreting that statute. | ||
| Stop! | ||
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Stop. | |
| If the tie goes to the agency? | ||
| Yeah, the tie goes. | ||
| It's even worse than that, Steve. | ||
| So not only is Congress delegating legislative powers to an administrative agency that violates the non-delegation doctrine that's unconstitutional, they're also deferring to the agency's interpretation of their own enabling statute. | ||
| And of course, These agencies are going to interpret the statute to give them more power, right? | ||
| And they'll even interpret these statutes retroactively. | ||
| So if you're a farmer and you don't understand that you're violating some air quality regulation or statute that the EPA enforces, the EPA can interpret it The way it wants to interpret it and then retroactively punish you for that based upon that Chevron. | ||
| So when the EPA is interpreting a statute, it's called Chevron deference and when they're interpreting a regulation, it's called our deference. | ||
| It's unconstitutional. | ||
| We are giving these administrative agencies way too much power. | ||
| Not only legislative power in violation of the non-delegation doctrine, we're also giving them power to adjudicate cases and to interpret their own statutes. | ||
| I want to go back because people's heads are going to blow up and this is how important the show is and the audience is hearing first. | ||
| You said it's a three-step process one with statues go back through because this you said it's a 20-year war here. | ||
| It's taken us a little bit of this started in the Civil War, but then it kind of went away and it really kicked up. | ||
| After the Great Depression with FDR and the packing of the court was a absolute inflection point. | ||
| It's only grown since then. | ||
| So it's taken, I don't know, 70, 80, almost 100 years to grow to this fourth branch of government that's all-powerful. | ||
| It's going to take, you think, it's a 20-year project to do it, but we're going to make this next term of the courts going to be so important. | ||
| Walk me through the three-step process that you outlined a couple of segments ago. | ||
| I want to make sure everybody's got this because, hey, Left-wing media is going to be all over. | ||
| They've got these radicals now, and here's what they're going to try to do. | ||
| They're trying to take apart the federal government. | ||
| So, and that's actually true, Steve. | ||
| That's my goal, is to take apart the federal government, because it is too big and too powerful, and it's tyrannical. | ||
| I just had Navar trying to take apart the DOJ, right? | ||
| The DOJ. | ||
| Not all of it. | ||
| Okay, so give me the three-part process. | ||
| So the first part is that courts need to look at these enabling statutes that Congress set up these agencies. | ||
| When they set up these agencies, did Congress give these agencies the power this agency claims it has? | ||
| For example, what we just saw with the EPA case at the Supreme Court. | ||
| The EPA claimed it had statutory Power to do all of these these regulations and all this enforcement related to air quality. | ||
| Well, they didn't have that power to climate change. | ||
| They didn't have that power. | ||
| The Supreme Court said under the statute that step one that they don't actually have the power. | ||
| The power was never In the additional doctrines that they were passed as statutes at the time they were passed, the EPA Act or whatever the acts were, what did it actually say at the time that these guys, what powers did they actually have, right? | ||
| Not the powers they've put to themselves or in the Chevron doctrine they've taken to themselves. | ||
| What did the law, the black letter law, say at the time, number one? | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| Did they have these powers under their statute? | ||
| We just saw this with Judge Catherine Mizell in Florida that we talked about, that the CDC never had the power to mask us on airplanes for two years. | ||
| And so the statute did not give the CDC that power, the statute never gave the EPA the power in the recent Supreme Court case under the statute. | ||
| That's step one. | ||
| Step two is even if Congress delegated powers to the CDC or the EPA to do things, They can't do that because the Congress cannot delegate its legislative powers to the executive branch. | ||
| That's the non-delegation doctrine. | ||
| That's step two. | ||
| Congress, you cannot delegate your legislative powers to these executive branch agencies because they don't have the constitutional constraints of legislation, which is passing both houses of Congress and getting the president to sign it, or if the president vetoes it, to get two-thirds of the House And the Senate to override the President's veto. | ||
| So that's the non-delegation doctrine, which is step two. | ||
| Step three is, wait a second, our Constitution only gives the federal government specific and enumerated powers. | ||
| Where in there does it say the federal government can regulate air quality? | ||
| Where in there does it say the federal government can regulate abortion? | ||
| Where in there does it say the federal government ...can mask people on airplanes. | ||
| It doesn't. | ||
| So that's step three, is that the judges need to step up and say, wait a second, the federal government doesn't have this power in the first place. | ||
| Congress doesn't have this power to delegate it to the executive branch, and so therefore, why are we even talking about non-delegation? | ||
| They don't have this power at all. | ||
| Where this is going to get, and ladies and gentlemen, hear this now on what, the 9th of July, the Saturday special here on the Deconstruction of the Administrative State. | ||
| When you saw the Night of Rage and everything that they didn't really put out, but they wanted to do it, they just didn't have the oomph to do it, about Roe v. Wade, and you had all the young people out here, and they're cutting their heads, and they're crying and screaming, and causing a fuss, and they've done it at the state level. | ||
| You ain't seen nothing yet, because what he's saying, Because the Guardian, all of them, said, oh my God, we have a ticking clock on climate change. | ||
| If we don't do something in two years, in three years, in five years, it's gone, the plant's gone, the water's going to rise, it's going to be 100 feet, all that. | ||
| And now you're going back and actually, it's not just the EPA and a couple of regulations, you're going to the heart of it. | ||
| And so they're going to come back and say, hold on, hang on. | ||
| This ancient document, as they said the other day on MSNBC, written by a bunch of white slave owners, Right? | ||
| He's now enslaved us in the 21st century. | ||
| It's taken control of the bodies of women. | ||
| And now, the greatest existential threat is not what Ben is saying about the CCP. | ||
| It's not the Southern borders. | ||
| The greatest existential threat we have in life is climate change. | ||
| And now Mike Davis is sitting there going, hang on for a second. | ||
| They don't have any powers in this area at all. | ||
| They're going to say, Mike Davis may look like a nice guy, may look, he wears the nice, you know, suits and everything like that, but he is a crazier radical. | ||
| Then Navarro and Bannon and Trump and any of them. | ||
| He's crazier than the libertarians at the Cato Institute. | ||
| What do you say to that, Mike Davis? | ||
| I would say fact check true on all of that. | ||
| But you have to just look at the Constitution, right? | ||
| If we want to give the federal government power, we could amend our Constitution. | ||
| And give them power. | ||
| But our founders understood correctly that giving power, concentrating power in the hands of people, leads to tyranny. | ||
| Whether it's government tyranny that we see with COVID or whether it's corporate tyranny that we see with big tech. | ||
| We do not like concentrated power in America. | ||
| We're not Europeans. | ||
| We don't want a EU controlling our lives. | ||
| We have an American revolutionary spirit that Democrats on the left are trying to destroy. | ||
| What you're seeing, and you're seeing this in the Roe v. Wade, but you're also going to see it here very quickly in this EPA thing. | ||
| What Biden's going to try to do is to do executive orders, and what Peter's saying, hey, the OLC that kind of signs off in the Executive Order of the Constitution leans very Democratic. | ||
| That's why, team, we wanted to come out with all these executive orders in the first 100 days. | ||
| We got about a third of them done, all because OLC hung them up. | ||
| He said Biden says the same thing. | ||
| So what happens when the administration says, hey, Mike Davis, nice thought. | ||
| Neil Gorsuch, go there. | ||
| Love what you got to do. | ||
| But we're going to use executive orders to do workarounds. | ||
| All we're going to do is spend our time on workarounds and what these kind of guys are trying to do on the non-delegation doctrine. | ||
| Mike Davis. | ||
| We need to have, fortunately President Trump transformed the federal judiciary and he put true constitutionalists on the Supreme Court and also on the critically important United States courts of appeals around the country. | ||
| Those are the regional courts of appeals. | ||
| They're the last stop for more than 99% of federal appeals because the Supreme Court only takes less than 100 cases each year for oral argument and decisions. | ||
| So these critically important courts of appeals This is why the judicial fight is so important, because these federal judges, their job is to protect us from government tyranny. | ||
| Their job is to protect us from government overreach. | ||
| And they have lifetime tenure, they have pay protection, and so they are perfectly suited to do it by design, by our founders' design. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| When we come back, I'm going to talk to Mike Davis about getting to know him and getting to know his operation better. | ||
| A couple of housekeeping things. | ||
| Real America's Voice is doing incredible coverage. | ||
| The Alaska rally is going to be today and I want everybody, this is a very historic. | ||
| President Trump goes to Alaska. | ||
| He's out there for two important reasons. | ||
| Sarah Palin, Governor Sarah Palin, now running for the at-large seat in the House of Representatives, and Kelly Shabaka running for this against Murkowski. | ||
| And Murkowski's just been terrible. | ||
| Okay, she's been terrible across the board and everything. | ||
| And Mike, you remember on the Ketanji-Brown-Jackson, that was one of the ones we were gonna try to get to flip, and guess what? | ||
| Just in your grill for the vote on it. | ||
| She's been terrible. | ||
| So that's what trumps out there today. | ||
| Also, Mike Lindell. | ||
| We're covering Mike Lindell. | ||
| 24-7 on on getter because Mike's out there Mike's gonna spend a couple of days out there So this is a historic thing make sure Ben Burquam's done another great special on his border specials This one's going all the way to Panama up to the to the border. | ||
| It's much watch TV. | ||
| It's a 4 o'clock today It's normally his shows plays at 7, but it's 4 o'clock because of the rally. | ||
| I want to make sure everybody is Everybody is there watching the rally tonight, so it's going to be very, very important. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take it. | ||
| Also, Captain Bannon, I want to make sure everybody in the chat rooms gets to, and everybody in the podcast, we're going to have about CPAC Texas. | ||
| Remember, these are not regional CPACs anymore. | ||
| The CPAC was in Florida, huge. | ||
| The people they've announced are going to be enormous. | ||
| There's a bunch of other surprise announcements they're going to have. | ||
| But CPAC Texas, the War Room is going to be there. | ||
| I want everybody in the area, in the War Room posse, to come out. | ||
| We'd love to have you get a ticket and be part of the audience. | ||
| If not, we're going to be doing stuff. | ||
| Around CPAC, we're going to want to meet as many people in Texas as possible. | ||
| The theme of this is really to take the house back from Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| I think it's Nancy Pelosi, fire Nancy Pelosi, save America. | ||
| I think that's the catchy title, but the thing is we need to take the house. | ||
| The reason we need to take the house is, Mike Davis just told you, the founders set up the house to be the one that was always in constant closest to the people. | ||
| It's going to be very, very important, particularly through the investigations into the administrative state. | ||
| The Senate is obviously critical, but the house Probably more critical than ever. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, MyPillow.com. | ||
| Make sure you support Mike Lindell, the armor-piercing show. | ||
| Go to MyPillow.com right now. | ||
| Check it out, particularly the sheets. | ||
| This is one-time, this is one-time good deal. | ||
| Oh, he's got the right, we don't need, yeah, okay, fine. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I can see my, my beautiful hair. | ||
| He's showing off that red hair. | ||
| I gotta show off my, what is it, blonde? | ||
| Maybe not, maybe gray. | ||
| Okay, Davis, here's the thing. | ||
| This is like we first started pandemic and we started impeachment. | ||
| The first couple of days we did nomenclature, process, statics, and dynamics. | ||
| Same thing we did on pandemic and people loved it. | ||
| This is a major line of work. | ||
| It's a 20-year war, but trust me, if you want to drain the swamp, if you want to shrink the federal government, you want to get people out of your business, out of your life, this is called deconstruction of the administrative state. | ||
| It's going to be the hottest topic Right, when we come back in Congress, because people are going to be all over this. | ||
| Mike, I want to make sure people have access to you, have access to your social media, particularly go to Article 3, the kind of things you're going to do. | ||
| I know you're going to do more webinars and stuff. | ||
| Mike is going to take the lead in explaining this, and I can tell people already. | ||
| Heads are going to be blown up. | ||
| When Mizell did that ruling, this town was like, what did she just say? | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because it wasn't about the mask, right? | ||
| It was about the ability to actually, you know, dictate the mask, right? | ||
| So it was about process. | ||
| Here's the same thing. | ||
| So Mike, how do people get to know you better? | ||
| How do they get to the site? | ||
| So, we are at article3project.org, article3project.org. | ||
| We also are on Getter and Twitter and social media. | ||
| It's at article3project, at article3project. | ||
| And my personal social media is MRDDMIA. | ||
| Michael R. Davis, Des Moines, Iowa, where I'm from. | ||
| I always joke that I know I sound like I'm from the Bronx, but I'm from Des Moines. | ||
| It's MRDDMIA. | ||
| Tell people how, as they come, in particular Article 3, and you put up different articles and start giving talks and get this out more. | ||
| There have been a cadre of people like yourself. | ||
| Rachel Maddow said this the other day about Roe v. Wade. | ||
| She said, look, this was a victory of people that worked for 50 years. | ||
| She was trying to motivate her troops. | ||
| She said, look, you're not going to wave a magic wand that's not going to turn around. | ||
| And she said, these people are coming to the peak of their powers, right? | ||
| They actually have a commercial now on MSNBC where she's walking through what the pro-life movement did. | ||
| And in years, they didn't win anything. | ||
| And then, you know, in years, they started making some real moves. | ||
| This is the same point. | ||
| This is kind of the starting off point. | ||
| And that Cadre, Gorsuch yourself, just tell the audience, there is a group of lawyers out there. | ||
| There is a group of legal theorists out there. | ||
| This is actually below the surface. | ||
| This is something that's been simmering, bubbling up for a long time, and now you're going to see it become front burner everywhere. | ||
| Am I correct in that? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's a big reason why I dropped my law practice back in Denver, Colorado, and helped Gorsuch get through the process as his former law clerk. | ||
| I went to the Senate Judiciary Committee and ran the process for Justice Kavanaugh and a record number of President Trump's lower court judges, and then I continued In this fight with the Article 3 Project. | ||
| It's a fun fight, but it's not a lucrative fight. | ||
| I'm not in this for the money by any means. | ||
| And I just believe in this. | ||
| This is so important for our country. | ||
| We have seen vividly over the last two years, again, this is not our parents or our grandparents' Democrat Party. | ||
| These are not liberals who disagree with conservatives on on how much we love America and how it due process and equality. These are leftists. | ||
| These are Marxists. This is they hate America. They want to destroy our country and they're going to find every way they can to do it. And we need to fight back. I'm going to plug my old boss's book. Justice Gorsuch wrote a book called A Republic If You Can Keep It. It is a very good book for the war room posse to read. | ||
| Go get it at a library if you don't want to spend the money, but it's a republic if you can keep it. | ||
| It talks about these foundational issues like we talked about today. | ||
| The non-delegation doctrine, the state legislature theory that the Democrats called. | ||
| These are founding principles. | ||
| There is a reason our founders, our framers of the Constitution set up the government the way they did because they understood tyranny. | ||
| They escaped tyranny in England and they understood that concentrated Power leads to tyranny. | ||
| Again, whether it's government concentration of power or corporate concentration of power and then government just takes over those corporations through fascist-type tactics. | ||
| We have to fight back against this or we're going to lose our country. | ||
| A republic if you can keep it. | ||
| By the way, Gorsuch with his writings, Alito with his writings, Justice Thomas with his writings. | ||
| You've seen the intellectual core of this court that's really incredibly impressive, like you used to go back and think about the liberal judges in previous years. | ||
| Now you've got a really great concentrated power of writing. | ||
| I want to make sure we're fair about this. | ||
| We don't often do this in the War Room. | ||
| Mitch McConnell, give McConnell his fair due about to even have the possibility of doing this. | ||
| And look, we're the first guys to take shots at McConnell all day long. | ||
| But give me a couple of minutes, because Mike, the audience has become a big fan of yours. | ||
| And they trust what you say. | ||
| Tell them about Mitch McConnell in this specific area. | ||
| So I went into the Senate, and I worked for my home state Senator, Senator Chuck Grassley. | ||
| I was his chief counsel for nominations from 2017 to 2019 to help him get Trump's judges through the process. | ||
| And we set records. | ||
| And I went in skeptically. | ||
| Of Senator Mitch McConnell, the Republican majority leader at the time. | ||
| I remember going into the bunker, into war with McConnell. | ||
| That guy is rock solid. | ||
| So is Chuck Grassley. | ||
| Chuck Grassley and Mitch McConnell and then Lindsey Graham took over as the Judiciary Committee chairman for the last two years of President Trump's first term. | ||
| These three guys were rock solid on federal judges. | ||
| They were critical, crucial. | ||
| We would not have confirmed Justice Kavanaugh and a record, Justice Gorsuch, Justice Kavanaugh, Justice Barrett, and a record number of federal circuit court judges and other judges. | ||
| There were over, well over 200, close to 200 judges. | ||
| We would not have done that if we didn't have Mitch McConnell, Chuck Grassley, and Lindsey Graham leading this fight. | ||
| These were not RINO judges either. | ||
| These are constitutionalists? | ||
| These are rock-solid judges. | ||
| I call these guys the plumbers. | ||
| These guys are the ones who are going to go drain the swamp, right? | ||
| If you want to go after the administrative state, it's not going to... We've learned, Republicans have learned, that Republicans are big spenders just like Democrats. | ||
| We're not going to get rid of the administrative state through the political process. | ||
| We're not going to get rid of it through politicians and Congress. | ||
| They want to spend more money on both sides, Republican and Democrat. | ||
| We need fearless judges stepping up and doing their job and saying the federal government does not have these powers. | ||
| A long fight ahead of us, but it's going to be a good fight, and it's going to fight ruin. | ||
| Remember, stick around Real America's Voice throughout the day. | ||
| You've got the Ben Burquham special at 4 o'clock, and then you've got the rally. | ||
| Rally's going to be unbelievable. | ||
| Kelly Shabaka, Mike Lindell, and of course, President Trump in Alaska for the first time. | ||
| It's going to be a blockbuster. | ||
| Okay, we are on GoToGetter. | ||
| I am up all weekend putting stuff up. | ||
| It's going to be crazy. | ||
| Next week is going to be insane. | ||
| We're already packed with guests. | ||
| Big issues. | ||
| We've got people coming in from overseas. | ||
| It's going to be intense next week. | ||
| I want to thank everybody, particularly the guys in Denver. | ||
| They're doing a good job. | ||
| We love these Saturday specials. | ||
| Until Monday morning at 10 o'clock, check me out on Getter. | ||
| This has been Wilbur. |
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