June 9, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| You're seeing the caravan that's heading up to the United States from Tapachula. | ||
| It's not as big as it was. | ||
| I think it peaked at 17,000. | ||
| What's called an ant operation. | ||
| Todd Benzner will be on in a few minutes to describe that. | ||
| Let's go to Oscar Blue Ramirez down there. | ||
| Oscar, that was kind of the peak. | ||
| Give us an update today. | ||
| Where do we stand? | ||
| What's the size? | ||
| Have the ant operations worked? | ||
| Are they dispersing? | ||
| To other parts of Mexico to come up to other parts of the American border? | ||
| Well, sir, today they woke up really early in the morning around five o'clock in the morning. | ||
| They started walking. | ||
| It's a caravan that is divided, sir. | ||
| It's not as big as it was before. | ||
| Really disorganized caravan. | ||
| Now you got almost 3,000 people that they are stationed at an immigration center, which they are receiving their document that permits them to walk freely between 30 days. | ||
| But other bunch that it was around 4,000 They're walking, but they're all scattered walking and they haven't stopped. | ||
| They are going to walk today for more than 10 kilometers, so they're going to be arriving on the next city that is called Squeak Lawn. | ||
| We are in the middle of that arrival, sir. | ||
| But, you know, approximately, if you talk about total wise of how many people this caravan has gone down to, I will believe that between 5,000 to 6,000, sir, it is the quantity. | ||
| The other, you know, vast quantity that is missing, a lot of them, they have been, you know, Agreeing with coyotes, agreeing with smugglers. | ||
| A lot of them, they have moved to the north borders without nothing, you know, without no documents. | ||
| A lot of them, they have transported themselves on buses. | ||
| A lot of them, they're waiting for the process. | ||
| It is just a whole scattered situation. | ||
| It is a divided caravan. | ||
| It is not as it was, as strong as it was before, sir. | ||
| But my point is that the people have not gone to the southern border and left Mexico. | ||
| They're dispersing through Mexico, still heading to the northern border. | ||
| What kind of chaos is that causing for Mexican citizens? | ||
| As now you have maybe 5,000 in what was a 15,000 to 17,000 caravan. | ||
| You have somewhere 10,000 that are either dealing with cartels, trying to figure on their own. | ||
| What kind of consternation is that causing Mexican authorities and the local citizens in these small villages that these people are just now going to start wandering through? | ||
| Well, the number one thing, sir, is the resources. | ||
| It is because of this massive population that has landed on these small towns, resources, they run out. | ||
| And, you know, the citizens of these small towns, they're complaining to the government that now they don't have water, they don't have food, because these are the effects now, plus the I don't know where are the environmentalists, but the trash that they leave behind, it's just a whole disorder. | ||
| It complicates a lot for the citizens. | ||
| Another thing that I would like to answer is today, they just confirmed that right now, the first migrant that just passed away because of diabetes, her diabetes just escalated. | ||
| and she passed away just a few minutes ago. | ||
| They're confirming to me right now that information. | ||
| They're going to cremate her later on tonight and then they're going to transport her rest to Venezuela, sir, back to Venezuela. | ||
| And you're saying, you said yesterday, you thought up to 70% of these were Venezuelan citizens? | ||
| 85%, sir. | ||
| Eighty-five percent. | ||
| The majority are Venezuelan citizens, already confirmed by the Mexican Entity Organization. | ||
| Eighty-five percent of this caravan, that it was the most biggest, largest caravan that has ever come out of Tapachula. | ||
| Eighty-five percent is Venezuelan. | ||
| The other fifty percent scattered between Cuban, Central Americans, and people from Somalia, sir, that I said that there were a lot of Somalian Muslims. | ||
| There's a lot of them that they're walking also. | ||
| Okay, hang on. | ||
| You hang right there. | ||
| Let's go to Todd Bensman. | ||
| Todd, I have pinned up on my Getter account, as the lead, is the situation with NBC News has broken, gotten a memo from the Biden administration. | ||
| I want everybody to go to Getter, and I know Captain Bannon's out today, but Cameron, if we and others can take that and make sure it's on every platform. | ||
| Todd, you've talked about this now for months. | ||
| You've said that this is what they've actually been doing on this show for months and months and months and months. | ||
| And now we have actual documentation from the Biden regime to show what they're doing immediately to get these illegal aliens dispersed into the United States as deep as possible into big cities. | ||
| Todd Benzman, give us your assessment. | ||
| About a month ago, Mayorkas's DHS put out a plan to contend with the lifting of Title 42, what they were going to do. | ||
| All of the details in the plan taken together show that this strategy is to expand the superhighway into the country to make it easier, smoother, quicker to move the most people possible into the interior of the United States. | ||
| So we already have that plan. | ||
| We've talked about it on this show. | ||
| The NBC report strikes me as just kind of a zeroing in on An updated part of that plan where they are going to be expanding to other cities, major cities in the interior. | ||
| This process that I saw in Del Rio, we talked about it here on the show, where you have nonprofits available to accept Border Patrol releases. | ||
| And then those nonprofits help these aliens With bus tickets and air tickets and telephone, you know, communications with their relatives and wherever they're going to go. | ||
| And so what we saw in Del Rio, that whole process with the buses coming and other buses leaving and that conveyor belt is going to be set up in all of these other interior cities. | ||
| And you won't see it, you know, because you have to take a camera over there. | ||
| Somebody has to like go over there and film it. | ||
| So you won't see this happening but that's that's what that strikes me as just Part of the plan that we already kind of... But this is, you knew it, and you put it together, and you told us this. | ||
| That's what I kept saying, this is not disorganized. | ||
| The original coverage of this on all the media, in current conservative media, it's so disorganized. | ||
| No, I said this is a very thought-through plan from Mayorkas going down to the Darien Gap and the Black Apache helicopters, the controlled flow, what you're reporting. | ||
| But now, the important thing of NBC, the mainstream media actually has documentations, and even they, you can tell, are a little shocked about it. | ||
| The plan is to get these people up to the border, as many as possible, and then disperse them into the United States. | ||
| Are the cities of our country... Go ahead, Todd. | ||
| Jump in. | ||
| Well, if I can just bring the viewers back to the Del Rio migrant camp crisis, I think that is the beginning point for these plans. | ||
| That migrant camp crisis, 17,000 mostly Haitians under the Del Rio-Texas Bridge, Was so traumatic politically to the Biden administration in so many different ways that they literally turned the ship, the whole ship around to prevent a Del Rio migrant camp from ever happening again. | ||
| All of these plans that we're seeing, in my opinion, uh, point to, um, optics control. | ||
| This is, we talk about ant operations, these are optics operations that were That we're seeing here. | ||
| This is all about, in my opinion, the midterm elections and making sure that none of these gigantic camps form up on the riverbank again like that ever again. | ||
| That's the purpose of these. | ||
| And one other quick thing is that, you know, Oscar may have told you guys that most of those immigrants down there, aliens being smuggled in in that caravan, plan to go to the Del Rio sector. | ||
| Why would they go to Del Rio because that's where American Airlines has the contract and Greyhound has the buses? | ||
| There's something very unique about the Del Rio sector that's different from all other sectors. | ||
| I've reported this since March of 2021 that on the Mexican side of Eagle Pass And Del Rio, Texas, the Mexican cartels there are not charging to cross. | ||
| So it's cheap. | ||
| It's an economic decision. | ||
| They don't get beat up for crossing. | ||
| They can cross themselves right there. | ||
| It's shallow and easy and cheap. | ||
| And that's why they go to Del Rio. | ||
| The word is out. | ||
| It's been out about Del Rio for a long time. | ||
| The reason why the cartels don't get hot and heavy on the immigrants there I'm told from my sources is that that sector on the Mexican side is a depot for southbound cash, southbound guns. | ||
| That's where the cartels accept their cash from American drug trafficking, and they don't want to do anything to upset the apple cart in that area. | ||
| The other thing is that the cartel there is, I'm told, Mostly state police and the federales. | ||
| They can't be seen overtly beating up migrants and running them through there. | ||
| So there's a couple things about that. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| This is why you come to the war room. | ||
| That is inside baseball, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Benzmann was not in Texas DPS intelligence for 10 years for nothing. | ||
| That is the best Logical and true explanation ever. | ||
| Hang on for one second, Todd. | ||
| Oscar, is your thoughts on most of these, I know the in operation are going to disperse them, but is the target here Eagle Pass and Del Rio as you currently see it right now? | ||
| Yes, absolutely, sir. | ||
| Every single migrant, and as we have been here for almost two weeks, every single one that we have passed, they only know the word river, sir. | ||
| And all of them, they know that the most easiest way to deliver themselves for asylum and refugee, it is through Rio, Texas, and also Eagle Pass, Texas, sir. | ||
| Those are the two places Now, some of them, some percentage that I have heard, also they have said Yuma, Arizona, right there at the border between Algodones and Yuma, where there's a big open gap on the wall. | ||
| That is where they're delivering their sales. | ||
| I heard some of them say, oh, you know, I'm going to Mexicali or possibly Algodones. | ||
| That is the border that connects to Yuma, Arizona, sir. | ||
| Oscar, how do people follow you during the day before you get your back on this evening? | ||
| Give us your coordinates. | ||
| Oscar Abloh on Getter, Oscar Abloh on YouTube, on Facebook, Oscar Abloh, Ramirez.com, sir, and of course, RealAmericansBoysYouth.com, sir. | ||
| You be safe, Oscar. | ||
| By the way, everybody understand this kid right here, this guy right here, this young man should win a Pulitzer Prize for the report. | ||
| This is real reporting. | ||
| Dangerous reporting. | ||
| Oscar, thank you so much. | ||
| Honored to have you on here. | ||
| Thank you so much, sir. | ||
| Bensman, Bensman, you've become a national asset. | ||
| You're unique in your understanding. | ||
| No, you are, because you understand the intel side, you understand the terrorism side, you understand all of it. | ||
| What you just did right there is what I've been hoping. | ||
| This explains why the target, and hey, there's no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences. | ||
| Del Rio and Eagle Pass, the crossroads up a little bit, you know, 50, 60 miles into Texas, Ovalde. | ||
| Just saying. | ||
| Why don't we know any information on how the kid got the $10,000? | ||
| Why don't we know any information on how he got the guns? | ||
| We don't know any information on who drove him there? | ||
| Why do we have no information on the shooter? | ||
| They're up here non-stop talking about the effects of it. | ||
| And by the way, it is heart-rendering and it's awful. | ||
| I'm not demeaning that at all. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| It's very moving. | ||
| But the key is still the kid, the shooter. | ||
| Why do we know nothing about it? | ||
| And it's just random that Del Rio, Texas and Eagle Pass is where they're heading. | ||
| And you now know it's because the federales and the police in Mexico, that's their section and they're all gangsters too. | ||
| This is what we're dealing with. | ||
| The war against the cartels. | ||
| We ought to be actively in an aggressive offensive war against the cartels of Mexico. | ||
| You want to save this country? | ||
| That's not just closing the border. | ||
| Closing the border is MAGA. | ||
| Taking the fire torch to the enemy on the cartels and the corrupt Mexican officials, that's ultra MAGA. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And deporting everybody. | ||
| The other thing we're going to deport everybody that came in under Biden is leaving this country. | ||
| Let me repeat that. | ||
| Everybody that came in is leaving this country. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| And we're going to take on the cartels. | ||
| That's ultra-mega. | ||
| Todd Bensman, thoughts, conclusions, and give me your coordinates. | ||
| I have a lot, but let me just start with what Oscar was saying about the makeup of that caravan down there. | ||
| He mentioned that he's seeing a lot of Somalis. | ||
| Somali immigrants, we haven't seen a lot in a while. | ||
| That is new. | ||
| If Somalis, there's a new pathway from Kenya to South America and then in, is very concerning from a national security perspective because large portions of Somalia are controlled by the U.S. | ||
| designated terrorist group Al-Shabaab. | ||
| There is a higher probability That Somalis that cross our border are going to be have tangled with or been part of Al-Shabaab. | ||
| Those people will not have intelligence records. | ||
| We can't call the Somalis and ask for an intelligence check or a share. | ||
| They don't have any birth certificates or driver's licenses or anything. | ||
| It's always concerning when Somalis cross the southern border and those people are going to be on their way here too. | ||
| I just want to point that out. | ||
| Todd, what are your coordinates and how do they get to the book? | ||
| We've got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| America's Covert Border War is the book. | ||
| It's about jihadist infiltration. | ||
| Lots of examples of Somali terrorists in this book who crossed the border. | ||
| One went on into Canada and conducted a double vehicle ramming attack. | ||
| T. Benzman at Getter. | ||
| Get him on getter. | ||
| Todd, thank you very much. | ||
| Julie Kelly next. | ||
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| Okay, I've got up on Getter this morning calling the FBI the American Gestapo, because that's what they is. | ||
| The FBI has to be deconstructed brick by brick. | ||
| They failed us in the Watergate situation. | ||
| In 9-11, they were a disaster. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| In the Comey thing about a coup against President Trump, a disaster. | ||
| Read Lee Smith's book. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And I was there. | ||
| I went through, what, 50 hours of grilling by those guys. | ||
| What they've done now is absolutely outrageous. | ||
| It's not the institution it used to be. | ||
| When it was productive for this country, and it's done a terrible job on the Chinese Communist Party, it's a joke and a disaster. | ||
| And what they just did moments ago, breaking news, I'm going to bring Julie Kelly in. | ||
| In the state of Michigan, they just arrested, the FBI just arrested one of the leading candidates for governor. | ||
| In the Republican primary, Ryan Kelly. | ||
| I think he's at 20 percent, 19 or 20 percent, polling at 19 or 20 percent. | ||
| They've had this whole situation in Michigan where some of the people didn't fill out the forms, the canvassing forms right. | ||
| I think they're down to just two candidates. | ||
| I think they're down to Tudor Dixon, Real America's Voice anchor, Tudor Dixon, who's fantastic, and Ryan Kelly, who's supposed to be super mega. | ||
| I've never met him, but I've heard great things about the guy. | ||
| Julie Kelly, walk me through this. | ||
| Once again, they've directly involved themselves in the political process against a Republican candidate. | ||
| This guy's running for government at 20%. | ||
| Give us the details. | ||
| So apparently this is just breaking today. | ||
| A local reporter outside of Detroit, somehow, Steve, was tipped off that the FBI was raiding Ryan Kelly's home this morning. | ||
| He suggested that it was related to January 6th, that Ryan Kelly was on the steps of the Capitol. | ||
| I have no information about this. | ||
| I'm not aware of his participation. | ||
| They have arrested him and this local reporter obviously tipped off hours before the January 6th theater is scheduled to begin. | ||
| This is the same FBI My office, you will recall, Steve, as you and I have talked about, extensively responsible for concocting the kidnapping hoax rumor, which a jury decided in the case of at least two men, they had been entrapped by this FBI to produce negative headlines for Donald Trump. | ||
| Millions of Americans were voting in October of 2020, and a hung jury on the other two men, which DOJ has announced they will re-prosecute. | ||
| For this crime that was completely made up, whole fabric, by this FBI. | ||
| And now they're arresting Republican gubernatorial candidates in the state of Michigan. | ||
| This guy's not some marginal guy. | ||
| He's polling at 20% among Republican voters. | ||
| This is why you get the Michigan AG out there with the sheriff that's trying to get to the bottom of the voting machines thing. | ||
| And it's CISA that tells us they're hackable. | ||
| The sheriff there is trying to get to the bottom of it. | ||
| They're threatening to arrest him. | ||
| They're using the apparatus of law enforcement for political purposes. | ||
| That's all gonna cease when we get ahead, but I understand something, FBI. | ||
| Just save the receipts and save the documents, okay? | ||
| Save the documents. | ||
| What you did in Michigan with these guys and setting them up was ridiculous, embarrassing, humiliating, and disgusting. | ||
| And now again. | ||
| And the timing just happens to be on the night of the... So MSNBC can play it non-stop and non-stop. | ||
| You don't think, Merrick Garland, we understand this is so in-your-face that we don't understand this? | ||
| Of all the timing you could do that, that you've got to do it on the afternoon before the big reveal? | ||
| Right? | ||
| The big reveal? | ||
| I'm not defending Ryan Kelly. | ||
| I'm defending a process that you're getting involved directly in the political process like you did when you chained up Navarro the other day for a misdemeanor. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| When he was already in contact with the FBI, we have all the records, when he's in contact with the FBI, you chain him up like a dog. | ||
| A guy who did more to protect this country from the Chinese Communist Party and is sanctioned by the Chinese... How many FBI people are sanctioned by the Chinese Communist Party? | ||
| Merrick Garland, are you sanctioned? | ||
| Chris Wray, are you sanctioned? | ||
| No, Chris Wray, you're at Williams & Connolly. | ||
| I got all the records. | ||
| You were making millions off of the Chinese Communist Party because you were retained over Williams & Connolly, which is another running dog for the Chinese Communist Party. | ||
| You don't think I got the records? | ||
| Bro? | ||
| Bro? | ||
| Because after November 8th, new deal. | ||
| New deal. | ||
| Totally new deal. | ||
| American people are going to see what the facts are. | ||
| Who's making money? | ||
| So, are anybody in the FBI? | ||
| You're rolling up Grundoons all over the place. | ||
| Oh, a Chinese professor here. | ||
| That's all Grundoons. | ||
| This country's got infiltration by the Chinese government trying to find the money, and you know about it, and quite frankly, you're part of it. | ||
| And your agency. | ||
| All the guys who took money in DOJ. | ||
| Where are the names of all the guys who took money in DOJ? | ||
| Where are the money? | ||
| All the guys took money in DOJ. | ||
| 40, 50 million dollars? | ||
| Where's all that? | ||
| Where is it? | ||
| And you're going to roll some guy up on the day of? | ||
| Just random? | ||
| Just a random roll-up? | ||
| Just random? | ||
| Hey, the no conspiracy, no conspiracy, no coincidence, bro. | ||
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Read that, read that chart back there. | |
| Julie Kelly, what can you anticipate tonight? | ||
| You see how they're going to play? | ||
| You see what they're going to try? | ||
| They're going to try to smear Trump all night. | ||
| They're going to try to spearhead Trump all night, because they're lawless! | ||
| Look at what they did in Michigan to these people. | ||
| They're totally lawless, this is out of control, this is the American Gestapo. | ||
| This is not the FBI, and all the TV shows they've got, all the TV shows are crap. | ||
| FBI, this FBI, this is not the FBI that was there for us in the anti-communist FBI in the 50s. | ||
| What happened after the War of Gate is downhill, the complete failure of 9-11, disaster of 9-11. | ||
| Disaster, a joke. | ||
| Julie Kelly. | ||
| See, this is the US Department of Justice collaborating with Democratic Party interests and the news media to try to destroy Trump world, right? | ||
| This is what happened earlier this week. | ||
| We had Liz Cheney do an interview on Sunday saying that there was a massive chilling conspiracy between Trump and his alleged militiamen. | ||
| On Monday, Matthew Graves, the U.S. | ||
| D.C. | ||
| attorney who's handling this entire prosecution, a Biden campaign advisor, by the way, issues the very rare, very rare indictment charging five Proud Boys with seditious conspiracy, bolstering what Liz Cheney had already said. | ||
| On Tuesday, the New York Times comes out and says, well, the focus of the January 6th hearing theater on tonight will be about Donald Trump working with the Proud Boys to overthrow the government on January 6th. | ||
| You see how this is all lined up. | ||
| And so this is yet the arrest today of Ryan Kelly. | ||
| Another example of how the DOJ is working with House Democrats, people like Liz Cheney and the national news media to destroy these people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is not a political game. | ||
| They are destroying the lives of these people. | ||
| They are destroying the Constitution. | ||
| They are completely undermining the security of our country by focusing No, Joe Biden said, do we have that? | ||
| Do we have the thing last night about put him in jail? | ||
| Can I play that clip? | ||
| Is that available? | ||
| Is it up? | ||
| No, I didn't think it was very funny at all. | ||
| People should know the Kimmel thing. | ||
| By the way, the reason that I thought was fine and people all see the whole thing, it's so humiliating for Joe Biden. | ||
| He's so out of it, and to me that's powerful. | ||
| I want Biden up. | ||
| I want the White House spokesman up. | ||
| I want him up non-stop. | ||
| American people are not going to vote for that. | ||
| They understand how illegitimate it is now. | ||
| You can see Biden, and you can understand there's no chance he got 81 million votes. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| In his basement? | ||
| So it's just not possible. | ||
| So Julie, I think we're on play. | ||
| Let me know when that clip is ready, okay? | ||
| Julie, once again, let's play this clip from last night with Biden. | ||
| You'd often get asked, look, the Republicans don't play it square, why do you play it square? | ||
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Well, guess what? | |
| If we do the same thing they do, our democracy will literally be in jeopardy. | ||
| I'm not a joke. | ||
| I understand that argument, but also it's like you're playing Monopoly with somebody who, you know, won't pass go and won't follow any of the rules, and how do you ever make any progress if they're not following the rules? | ||
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Well, you've got to send them to jail, you know. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's, that's funny. | ||
| He said it right there. | ||
| Send him to jail. | ||
| Send him to jail. | ||
| Send them to jail. | ||
| That's his, that's his voice. | ||
| It's not Steve Bannon saying Biden said that. | ||
| That's Biden saying it on national television. | ||
| Send him to jail. | ||
| Guess what, bro? | ||
| They're not going to jail. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And after November 8th, it's all going to turn. | ||
| Who's going to jail? | ||
| You guys are going to jail. | ||
| We're going to impeach you. | ||
| And then we're going to go after criminal charges. | ||
| What you're doing on the Southern invasion of the Southern border. | ||
| What you're doing here in this illegal Merrick Garland in the American, let me just say, the FBI is the American Gestapo. | ||
| You have destroyed a great institution and you should be ashamed of yourself. | ||
| And Chris Wray, you've been on the take from the Chinese Communist Party in the filthiest, most disgusting law firm of all the disgusting law firms in the city. | ||
| Williams and Connolly are the most corrupt, the most decrepit, the most anti-American. | ||
| You take money from every terrible criminal element in the world, including the Chinese Communist Party, and Chris Wray, you're up to your neck in it. | ||
| Julie Kelly, what should people focus on tonight? | ||
| They should just focus on, once again, another performance led by people like Adam Schiff, known liars, known saboteurs, Um, to produce, as I said, this alleged conspiracy between the Proud Boys and Donald Trump that did not exist. | ||
| The only conspiracy related to January 6th, as you know, Steve, are all the powerful interests, the same ones who brought us Russiagate, who brought us the whistleblower impeachment, who rigged the election. | ||
| Uh, those are the same interests that are, that can, that conspired months before January 6th to perpetrate what happened that day, weaponize it like it has been criminalized political dissent. | ||
| There are people in jail under the Biden regime for political protests. | ||
| There are dozens of men, some of whom have been held for 14, 15 months, incarcerated, while the same DOJ continues to move their trials. | ||
| These men haven't been convicted of any crime. | ||
| Almost all of them have no criminal record, but they're languishing behind bars. | ||
| They've been in solitary confinement conditions, abused by this regime, while the same DOJ is delaying their trials, withholding evidence, and then Concocting ridiculous charges like seditious conspiracy, which no American has ever been convicted of. | ||
| The DOJ is essentially a criminal operation, and so is the FBI. | ||
| I don't care if they don't like hearing it, and we're going to prove it, okay? | ||
| We've got the facts. | ||
| We're going to prove it, and you guys are going to stand accountable for it. | ||
| The 14,000 hours, it's ridiculous that hasn't been released. | ||
| Julie Kelly, what are your coordinates so people can follow you on social media tonight? | ||
| I'm on Twitter Julie underscore Kelly to gather Julie underscore Kelly. | ||
| Um, also all my work can be found at American greatness and greatness.com. | ||
| I'll have a piece up tonight about the new evidence of collaboration between DOJ, the news media and the democratic party, which is tonight's theater. | ||
| Kaboom! | ||
| Julie Kelly, you're the best. | ||
| I hope media matters. | ||
| Everybody's melting down right now. | ||
| I know, I love it. | ||
| We're gonna get on this Ryan Kelly story. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| I got Tonya Tay in the house. | ||
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| Joe Allen. | ||
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| Okay, I'm here to make an announcement. | ||
| There's going to be a big special on Saturday. | ||
| You're not going to miss it. | ||
| We're going to have all the action and all the news breaking, but We're doing it too. | ||
| The last two weekends we'd focused on China and then Ukraine and China and the chips. | ||
| We're going to expand it out. | ||
| We're going to talk about the world as it is today as we hurdle towards, wait for it, a third world war. | ||
| We're already in it, information, cyber and economic. | ||
| I think the kinetic parts are coming, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| We're going to have Eric Prince as my co-host for two entire hours. | ||
| As we break it down, every hotspot in the world had all ties together. | ||
| The signal, not the noise. | ||
| That's the Saturday in the Word moment. | ||
| Eric, thank you so much. | ||
| I know you're just back from Malta. | ||
| You're going to be my wingman. | ||
| You've also, though, just announced that the FBI just announced, or has been leaked out to Michigan media, Ryan Kelly. | ||
| One of the few remaining guys running for governor, I think Tudor Dixon and Real America's Voice, Ryan Kelly, the last two, he's polling at 20%. | ||
| Just looks like he was arrested by the FBI. | ||
| You've got this police state trying to shut down MAGA. | ||
| It's going to go nuts tonight. | ||
| You've got a product I want everybody in our audience to know about. | ||
| You've been working on this for a long time. | ||
| Talk to us about it. | ||
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Sure, Steve. | |
| I think anything that pays attention in America realizes that free speech results And the most essential way we communicate is via cell phones. | ||
| And people have to be sick of being subject to the Google or Apple universe, where they control and they collect your data. | ||
| They resell your data. | ||
| They know where you go, who you call, what you browse, and what you buy online. | ||
| And they resell that data. | ||
| If you haven't seen the movie, The Social Lamp, I encourage everyone to watch it tonight. | ||
| You will be horrified. | ||
| But we have the solution for that product now. | ||
| It's called Unplugged Systems. | ||
| It is a completely separate operating system, separate phone, separate app suite that will let you be liberated from big tech, where you are in control of your data. | ||
| They're aware of their own operating system that does not have a testing ID. | ||
| Big tech can no longer back you and cannot resell your data. | ||
| Let's try it if we get a good thing. | ||
| Eric, let's take him down and reboot him because you can't hear anything he's saying. | ||
| Let's try it if we get a good thing. | ||
| Do I have, can I play the cold open for the Metaverse? | ||
| The cold open we talked about two days ago? | ||
| That cold open? | ||
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Yes. | |
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| You're unflappable. | ||
| Stay unflappable. | ||
| Tanya Tay! | ||
| Where's my Joe Allen? | ||
| Is Joe Allen somewhere in the... He's somewhere in the metaverse? | ||
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Okay. | |
| We're gonna try to get... We're gonna get Eric Prince rebooted. | ||
| Hey, this is what happens on this kind of TV? | ||
| Yeah, who's there? | ||
| Joe Allen's there, but tell me when I get my cold open. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Tanya Tay, you went with Posobiec. | ||
| Posobiec did a... Tanya Tay is actually... I should say it differently. | ||
| Jack is actually Mr. Tanya Tay. | ||
| You're Jack's wife. | ||
| You went to Davos this year. | ||
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Yes, we did, Steve. | |
| And of course, you know, Jack, one day he just turns around to me and says, Hey, dear, you want to go and see the Alps in Switzerland? | ||
| Is that the way he pitched it? | ||
| He pitched it that way. | ||
| Interestingly enough, we come to Switzerland And he takes me to Davos of all places. | ||
| I was like, dear, I came here to see the Alps. | ||
| Why are we here in the globalist centrum, you know? | ||
| And more to that, he walks with me straight to the Metta Immersive Learning Center and shows me this whole Mettaverse. | ||
| Is this the first time you've really been exposed to that, to see what the metaverse is? | ||
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It really was, yes. | |
| Because Jack is a creature of social media. | ||
| I mean, Jack Posobiec is a global figure because he's one of the best guys on Twitter and now is dominant inside of Getter. | ||
| But he understands the logic of social media. | ||
| Do you spend a lot of time on social media? | ||
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I really don't. | |
| I say that there has to be a person in the family who is grounded, unplugged, and in touch with reality. | ||
| So that's my job. | ||
| And so tell us about, you just go there as essentially a civilian, and tell us about Metaverse. | ||
| How did you come upon it? | ||
| They had this, because the whole segment of this was Ukraine and Metaverse. | ||
| Of course you know about Ukraine as well as anybody. | ||
| How did this, tell us what your first inclination when you first saw Metaverse, what was it? | ||
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So they have a little booth set up where any passerby could just walk up. | |
| They put the headphones on you. | ||
| They give you the stick with the phone in it. | ||
| You can put on the glasses and you basically walk in this quasi-zoo that they have set up. | ||
| You point your cell phone on a barcode and here there's a little animal that pops up and You could get a close up to them, you could read about their habitat, you could see who they interact with, if they're, you know, wild or, you know, they keep them at home. | ||
| So it's this whole immersive learning experience that they pitch only with a little So all of it, it's a totally digitally immersive environment? | ||
| Correct, yes. | ||
| asking a little about and they say well now instead of taking your kids to the zoo you can actually you know are introducing to the metaverse where you don't even have to go anywhere. So all of it is it's a totally digitally immersive environment. Correct yes. Is it is it creepy? It is. | ||
| Uh... | ||
| To me, the animals did not seem real enough. | ||
| And I'm pretty sure it's a working process as anything with a 3D. | ||
| And it's realistic enough. | ||
| Yet, you know, it can creep on you from, you know, left or right or from under, you know, you don't expect, you don't know where it's coming from. | ||
| So it's, it's definitely an experience. | ||
| Let's get Joe Allen in. | ||
| Joe, when Tanya was there, you were covering this non-stop about the metaverse, about what they're trying to do. | ||
| This is all about transhumanism. | ||
| What is their purpose in the metaverse, and what were they trying to drive in Davos this year? | ||
| Well, you know, Steve, I'm pretty suspicious of any of the positive spin around the metaverse. | ||
| It's pretty amazing. | ||
| Anyone who's, you know, Experienced virtual reality knows that the possibilities are limitless, and I would say that that's probably the biggest problem, is that for whatever positive effect it may have in education or in job training or in surveillance, | ||
| I think that what we will probably see, much like we saw with the Internet in general, with social media more broadly, is that a lot of people are going to check out of reality, the reality for which we are responsible together of maintaining. | ||
| And I think that in the case of education, it's probably the most insidious and dangerous because you're normalizing this mode of experience for children. | ||
| To the extent that children are not yet fully developed, either neurologically or even the connection between their minds and their bodies, I think that virtual reality and the metaverse more broadly is going to, you know, to put it in colloquial terms, screw a lot of kids' heads up. | ||
| There have been very few studies on this. | ||
| Those studies that have been conducted on children have shown that For the most part, their bodies and minds just simply aren't ready to adapt to that virtual environment, meaning that the more time they spend in it, the more they will be developing the cognitive faculties to live in a virtual environment rather than, again, this real world for which we're all responsible for taking care of. | ||
| Let me, so this is the point, because if you think about the damage that video games have done, and I'm a big advocate for, video games would be banned for a lot of kids up to a certain age, and the violence in it would be toned down or gotten rid of, because I think if you look at all these shooters, one of the commonalities is they're all addicted to video games. | ||
| Is this environment, I mean, to me, this metaverse is like, Video games to the 50th power, right? | ||
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Because it's so all-inclusive. | |
| Do you have that fear when you were there? | ||
| Because it's going to get a lot better. | ||
| If the animals don't look great today, they'll eventually be complete representations of what it looks like in real life. | ||
| But it won't be real life. | ||
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You know, my fear is that with introducing it so early to the young age, as we already do, my four-year-old can set a timer on a camera. | |
| He can navigate it better than my parents could, you know? | ||
| And my fear is that in addition to My hard job of being a parent a mom in the first place now I have to compete with this augmented reality where I have to be more fun more interesting which I want to be and if I want to spend more time with my kids I have to you know work extra hard to have them | ||
| I look forward to experience with me as a mom or with dad versus just sitting comfortably on a couch with the glasses on their head, you know, living the virtual reality. | ||
| Is that a fear that you have to compete with? | ||
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It is a huge fear and especially with kids. | |
| They get more prone to getting sucked in. | ||
| Stimulus? | ||
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The stimulus, of course, and they get so sucked into that world, it's so hard. | |
| Try turning off YouTube on their favorite song or show. | ||
| Oh, you're up for a surprise with that little kid. | ||
| Joe, that's the point. | ||
| That's the business proposition, though. | ||
| They know exactly how the human brain works. | ||
| They know the chemicals the human brain works on stimulus. | ||
| My point is, these people are not coming at it from some sort of experimental. | ||
| They have an actual idea of how they capture and then start to form the human mind. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| In the cold open that we'll play shortly, you'll hear a neuroscientist, a prominent neuroscientist, discuss the possibility of the metaverse being a place that people spend most of their time. | ||
| There was a recent interview with Mark Zuckerberg and Lex Friedman in which they were discussing the possibility that people will want to spend more of their time there. | ||
| And more importantly, that means that the identity that someone develops in virtual reality Whether it's as themselves, whether it's as a unicorn, whether it's as some drag queen, whatever it may be, and you can pick and choose as you like. | ||
| People will start to identify with those virtual identities more and more. | ||
| You already see it in social media, but I think when you amp it up to the level of virtual reality, we're talking about something far, far more insidious. | ||
| And again, what it leads to is a disconnection from this reality and an identification with a reality that really is ephemeral. | ||
| It has no real meaning or consequence, in my opinion. | ||
| Let's go, as we go to commercial break, let's go right now, let's play the cold open here, be a cold close as we say, hot close from Davos itself. | ||
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Would you share with us what you imagine the role of AI and data will be in the metaverse? | |
| Thanks a lot for this question, Nicole. | ||
| I think the ultimate metaverse is actually our brain. | ||
| My brain is a perfect virtual reality generating machine. | ||
| I see things, I can touch things, and in my brain everything is constituted. | ||
| So we can definitely learn from the principles of the brain how to actually build a metaverse that feels very much intuitively. | ||
| I had a discussion with Philipp. | ||
| I asked him, will we spend more time in the future, in the metaverse, in the physical world? | ||
| And Philipp told me, I'm not so sure. | ||
| It still feels artificial. | ||
| I would prefer like my human body. | ||
| If we could create technologies that make the metaverse feel as if I was in my real body, then I think that would be the ultimate metaverse that we try to achieve. | ||
| But definitely, I think artificial intelligence will revolutionize the metaverse and gives us the key to actually build a kind of a new world that might be a better world than our physical world these days. | ||
| Certainly there'll be second-hand impact of children growing up in the metaverse thinking in new ways and innovating in new ways. | ||
| So in the metaverse I would imagine to have like a perfect scientific assistant like the Captain Future series for those who know him. | ||
| Like a flying brain with me. | ||
| And I don't need to find solutions, because the machines are doing that for me. | ||
| But I need to ask the right questions. | ||
| So I think human beings should be there to ask questions, but the machines are way better suited to actually get this information. | ||
| The machines are way better at asking the questions. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| Tanya Tay, Joe Allen, Eric Prince, all next in the War Room. | ||
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| Joe Allen, you've been all over the metaverse. | ||
| Tell me the dangers we have here, and where your reporting is going to go, and what can people expect from you? | ||
| You know, Steve, there are three major issues that I see. | ||
| As I mentioned before, the disconnection from reality, our shared reality, and an escape into a virtual reality is already happening, and it will only increase as things move forward. | ||
| The second is the content of the virtual realities themselves. | ||
| A lot of people talk about virtual reality as if it were a religious experience. | ||
| And I think that the profundity of that experience of being in a completely different world does have that sense to it. | ||
| And the people programming these worlds hope that it will be this sort of heaven or even hell-like realm that people spend much or most of their time in. | ||
| And the third, as mentioned by Pascal Kaufman in that video, is what will be the driving force behind this? | ||
| And I think that as artificial intelligence does move forward, more and more metaverse companies, virtual reality companies, will rely on artificial intelligence to create novel environments and in particular to create novel characters for people to interact with so that if you spend Most of your time in the metaverse you aren't even spending it in a world in which you're connecting to other virtual people You are connecting to virtual beings artificial intelligence powered beings | ||
| I think that as a whole what this represents is just more of a degradation of our culture and I am strongly opposed Oh Joe, thank you very much I'm going to have you back on this evening. | ||
| Joe Allen, our transhumanist expert, getting him at Getter right now. | ||
| Joe, thank you very much. | ||
| Eric Prince, what Tanya Tay warned us about is that, as a parent, she's got to stay unplugged and not get sucked into things like the metaverse. | ||
| You take a different take on that when you say unplugged. | ||
| Tell me what you're talking about. | ||
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Did you? | |
| Hey, I'm sorry. | ||
| I thought you met the Tammy. | ||
| Unplugged. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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| We have an app suite, our app store, will allow people to download whatever free speech apps they want to consume that information and not be subject to the whims of a millennial out at Google or Apple headquarters determining what can be on their app stores or not, because it's our app store. | ||
| We have a third rail here, And I really hope your audience pays attention and gets on board. | ||
| We're going to get all over this. | ||
| Eric Prince is going to do a two-hour special with me on Saturday. | ||
| We're going to get into all this. | ||
| Prince has put his heart and soul into this thing. | ||
| It's as important as you could possibly get in this day and time. | ||
| This dangerous day and time in which we live. | ||
| Eric, I look forward to having you on Saturday as we go through this in detail. | ||
| In fact, we'll have more about Unplugged and all the shows going forward. | ||
| Eric Prince, thank you very much for joining us. | ||
| We'll work out the Skype connection so we can see your smiling visage next time. | ||
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I look forward to it, Steve. | |
| Thank you. | ||
| Eric Prince, America's Warrior. | ||
| Tanya, I'll have you back on. | ||
| I've been saying for a while, Tanya Tay should have the show, not Jack Pasovic. | ||
| Or it should be a Jack Pasovic news show and then a Tanya Tay reality show. | ||
| And people don't understand, she speaks perfect Mandarin, and I mean with a perfect accent. | ||
| Jack Pasovic. | ||
| After you guys left Davos, 700 miles to the front line of Ukraine, I couldn't imagine Tanya Tay signing off on that adventure. | ||
| Tell me what happened. | ||
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So the original plan was to go and visit Poland which sounded like a great idea. | |
| Somehow we kept moving east and eventually when we got to the border of Poland and Ukraine my little bell started sending signals and of course Jack had a great The idea for the weekend, he decided to take a train ride to Lviv and then Odessa. | ||
| Well, that's the story that he told me. | ||
| His brother was with him. | ||
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And that's probably the only reason I actually agreed to that adventure in the first place, is he did have his amazing brother with him, who always watches his back. | |
| And yes, they went on this adventure together. | ||
| I take it you weren't, at the last second, I heard he bait-and-switched. | ||
| He was teasing you were gonna go and then cut it off? | ||
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You mean me? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I actually never really wanted to go. | ||
| As a mom... Knowing that part of the world. | ||
| Knowing that part of the world, the situation the country's in, and having left two little boys at home, I was like, if I could stay away from danger, even if there's .01% of me getting in any crazy situation, I was like, no, I'm staying behind. | ||
| Are you on social media as a way people can actually get to you? | ||
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Yes, RealTanyaTay, I'm on Twitter, Instagram mostly, where I document the fun adventures of Pozo Boys. | |
| Okay, fine. | ||
| So it's real Tañita? | ||
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Yes. | |
| And when are we going to get the Tañita show? | ||
| I keep saying we've got to get this. | ||
| It will be much bigger than the human event. | ||
| I mean, human events, Jack, so it doesn't get any bigger, but yours will be massive. | ||
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The show is already on Instagram. | |
| I put a little stories out with the boys and all the fun we have together, experiencing the real world at a real zoo with real animals. | ||
| Jack Posobiec married up when he married Tanya Tate. | ||
| Fantastic couple. | ||
| Tanya, thanks so much. | ||
| Thanks for coming into the War Room. | ||
| Tonight, two hours tonight, we're going to have Elise Stefanik in the second hour, six o'clock. | ||
| Matt Gaetz is going to be in the house tonight to kick things off for us. | ||
| It's going to be pretty intense. | ||
| The beginning of really the surrogate movement. | ||
| To really deconstruct all these lies and smears you're going to tell tonight. | ||
| Be back here at 5. | ||
| An all-star cast. | ||
| That's what I can promise you. | ||
| 5 to 7 at night, in the War Room. | ||
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See you then. | |
| It's all started, everything's begun. | ||
| And you are over. | ||
| Cause we're taking down the CCP. |
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