June 8, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Thank you, Camilla. | |
| To make the loss of these lives matter. | ||
| It's all a fugazi. | ||
| You know what a fugazi is? | ||
| A fugazi? | ||
| It's a fake. | ||
| Yeah, fugazi, fugazi. | ||
| It's a wasi, it's a woozi, it's a... Fairy dust. | ||
| It doesn't exist. | ||
| It's never landed. | ||
| It is no matter. | ||
| It's not on the elemental chart. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Stay with me. | ||
| Hey-oh. | ||
| Hey-oh. | ||
| Mmmmm. | ||
| Hey-oh. | ||
| Mmmmm. | ||
| Uh! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We need to invest in mental health care. | ||
| We need safer schools. | ||
| We need to restrain sensationalized media coverage. | ||
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We need to restore our family values. | |
| Okay, here's what we need to do. | ||
| You made all your money off of these films showing people brutalized, all these weapons. | ||
| You're a total and complete phony. | ||
| And this shows you the vapidness of blue check Twitter. | ||
| They're all, oh, this is so fabulous. | ||
| This was nothing but an actor in the most callous way possible doing your whole thing. | ||
| Fugazi fugazi. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Just like fairy dust. | ||
| This guy, dude, you want to run for office? | ||
| Sign up and go down. | ||
| You better and better. | ||
| Go down to Texas. | ||
| Let's see another guy like George Clooney. | ||
| Big talk. | ||
| All big talk. | ||
| Fugazi. | ||
| I got this. | ||
| I got that. | ||
| And then you're going to sit there and lecture us on healthcare and lecture us on everything about this country? | ||
| If this is where the Democratic Party is, I love it. | ||
| In the press briefing room, I want you to imagine Jack Kennedy's White House, having that show up. | ||
| This gets to Victor Davis Hanson's The Therapeutic Nation. | ||
| I brought in the one and only Jason Miller. | ||
| He's done this before. | ||
| President Trump's right hand on everything communications and strategy. | ||
| Jason, also I want to get our check today for the sponsor. | ||
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No, I'm just kidding. | |
| Just kidding. | ||
| Get Miller over here. | ||
| Give me your professional assessment. | ||
| And by the way, did he call her Camilla at the beginning? | ||
| Did I see that? | ||
| Was he saying something else? | ||
| He called her Camilla? | ||
| Is that true? | ||
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It sounds like he jumbled it a little bit. | |
| But here's the thing. | ||
| She's a Zen master. | ||
| I'll get to that in a second. | ||
| I want to play that other clip later. | ||
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Go ahead. | |
| Well, he's referring to his wife. | ||
| He's not talking about Corrine. | ||
| Jean-Pierre. | ||
| Jean-Pierre is a Zen master. | ||
| She's a Zen master. | ||
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But when they're saying dazed and confused, I thought this was going to be the Joe Biden story. | |
| Am I out of line by getting on this guy for this big emotional show that he put on? | ||
| I think doing the things with the children, I think, and the victims is appropriate. | ||
| I don't know if it's appropriate in the press briefing room of the White House. | ||
| You agree? | ||
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No, I think it completely declasses the tragedy that happened in Uvalde. | |
| I think bringing him in with the shtick and the, all right, all right, all right, and everything. | ||
| It just, what are you doing? | ||
| Just the tone deafness in that White House to think that bringing in a Hollywood actor is somehow going to make people think that you're more empathetic or how is that going to push gun restrictions if you're a Democrat trying to get those through the Senate or the House? | ||
| I mean, it's just, it's, it's embarrassing. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| Well, I mean, let's put it this way. | ||
| The podium was already an embarrassment when you had Peppermint Patty and now Kareem Jean-Pierre. | ||
| But now you put Matthew McConaughey behind it and it's disrespectful. | ||
| Do we have Karim Jean-Pierre? | ||
| Let's play a clip from her because I think she's a Zen master. | ||
| No, because the whole place is in complete collapse. | ||
| His numbers, Wall Street Journal does a poll, 83% of the people think that Commie's either bad or terrible, okay? | ||
| These numbers are historic. | ||
| They ask you these straight, and you can see everybody does, they ask these very straight, long questions. | ||
| She gives an answer that is both complete nonsense, but has pure Zen, right? | ||
| That's why she's a Zen master. | ||
| Let's play her. | ||
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On the solar panels, how is this not a gift to Chinese solar manufacturers, many of whom operate with forced labor and are subsidized by the Chinese Communist Party? | |
| Today's announcement is about one country and one country alone, and it's about the United States. | ||
| Okay, there we go. | ||
| By the way, King County, they use the Defense Production Act, and she says it's to make the American people feel better. | ||
| Well, that's not what she used the Defense Production Act for, but she's got it in a way that she kind of twists it. | ||
| She says, talking to us about the communication strategy and having McConaughey there today on something that should be total gravitas, and you got Fugazi-Fugazi. | ||
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I don't get it at all. | |
| You would think that, I mean, this is the type of moment where, again, if you're the White House, if you're trying to push forward with gun restrictions, if you're trying to move public debate, this is where maybe you bring in one of the parents. | ||
| This may be when you bring in some of the surviving children, or you take the president down to Uvalde, or you have him walk around and grieve parents, or meet with grieving parents, things like that. | ||
| But just bringing the Hollywood actor, it just, it takes the seriousness out of it. | ||
| And again, here's the thing with Matthew McConaughey. | ||
| Matthew McConaughey, it's not as though you're bringing in, you know, Anthony Hopkins or someone who's viewed as, or, you know, Patrick Stewart or someone who's viewed as, you know, Shakespearean actor. | ||
| I mean, you're bringing in the guy from Dazed and Confused, the guy from Wolf of Wall Street, from all the other, you know, he's the alright, alright, alright guy. | ||
| He's not someone who makes you say, you know what, this is a statue of moral authority here. | ||
| Not at all. | ||
| Yeah, very, very, very confusing. | ||
| I wanted you to come in today because we've got so much going on. | ||
| As you know, we put up today, I finally had enough of it, so we got today and said just draft Trump, right? | ||
| And we put it up and of course it's on Getter, exclusively on Getter. | ||
| Everybody, and you go to Captain Bannon, she'll teach you right now to show you how to get up on Getter. | ||
| It's got, it's got her on our, on the Worm site and on my own personal site. | ||
| That's at Steve Bannon. | ||
| I noticed Cortez has got at Steve. | ||
| That's a topic for, that's another topic on my punch list for, for, for Miller. | ||
| Miller, I get no respect. | ||
| I get no respect. | ||
| Talk to me about Trump. | ||
| Talk to me about going now versus waiting. | ||
| Is this draft movement, because he's too self-effacing and humble, right, to do, unless it's put before him and said, you got to do this now. | ||
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I think he's got to do it while it's fresh in everyone's minds. | |
| Obviously, we're coming off of 2020. | ||
| Steve, you've done a great job with the 3 November movement. | ||
| The fact of the matter is his folks are mobilized, they're organized, they're passionate right now. | ||
| We need to take that energy and start putting it towards 2024, which starts by winning the House and the Senate back in 2022. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| The Democrats are going to put President Trump at the top of the ballot in 2022 regardless. | ||
| And I'm going to tell you, Steve... Hold on a second. | ||
| I've got to slow down because everybody's going to hear this. | ||
| What they're saying is that, oh, we want this. | ||
| This is a referendum on Biden. | ||
| Of course, it's going to be a referendum on Biden. | ||
| But Trump's the specter of Trump is always there. | ||
| So by announcing now, you're saying it's not going to because all the Republican establishment. | ||
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No, no, no, no, no. | |
| This is going to screw everything up. | ||
| Stop. | ||
| This is going to put Trump on the ballot. | ||
| He's on there anyway. | ||
| And it's going to be a referendum on this fiasco. | ||
| At the White House, correct? | ||
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unidentified
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What do you think they're doing Thursday night, Steve? | |
| That has nothing to do with anything except for 2024 for trying to beat him up. | ||
| And the fact that Democrats are looking and saying, oh, the polling has moved about 10 points away from them towards Trump on where do you assign blame for any of the chaos at the Capitol? | ||
| And so they see the poll numbers slipping. | ||
| They see the fact that Trump is there's a good chance he goes and runs again. | ||
| They're already making about 2024. | ||
| So let's go fight fire with fire. | ||
| The other thing too is when we talk about the Democrats and what they're doing, the fact that President Trump, this is a really important thing, so a week and a half ago I traveled with President Trump to a speech at the NRA in Houston and I went with him to Casper, Wyoming for the anti-Liz Cheney rally in favor of Harriet Hageman. | ||
| And President Trump's speech that he gave at the NRA, in my opinion, was the single most presidential speech that has been given by anyone in the United States since noon on January 20th, 2021. | ||
| So that's a very clear, not Mr. mashed potato brains, but President Trump gave the most presidential speech on a day when Republicans had scheduling conflicts, were running for the tall grass, did not want to take on the tragedy in Uvalde head on. | ||
| President Trump stood there, talked about the mental health crisis that's happening in this country, the fact that all of these bad actors are having the same profile, that there's an absolute dissolving of the family unit, that we're missing all of these red flags and we have to stand and confront these things. | ||
| He took it on in number one, laid down the gauntlet that we have to do something about the crime and these mental health issues, but also stood up for our constitutional rights. | ||
| And the fact that he could do that, and you could hear a pin drop in the room unless he was giving out a great line that people wanted to cheer on, they were hanging on his every word. | ||
| Nobody else in the country could deliver a speech that powerful other than Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Also, if the White House wants to learn about gravitas and about commemorating the memory of people, the opening of the speech where he just named the names and the bells played, and the bells kind of resonated, he would name the next and it would resonate. | ||
| You could not just hear a pin drop. | ||
| I don't think you could hear anybody even breathing at that auditorium. | ||
| It was as dramatic an open as I've ever seen, and that really pulled you in to the names of those young kids and the teachers. | ||
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So right. | |
| And that's why, Steve, I'm glad you're doing this draft President Trump movement. | ||
| I think we need to get him in. | ||
| I think the earlier he gets in, that continues to unite and unify the party, especially heading into these midterms. | ||
| For example, you always got to have someone to beat someone. | ||
| Now, this might be a little bit of a unique circumstance where I think you're going to have a lot of people wake up on November 9th this year and be like, whoa, I'm going to Washington. | ||
| That's going to happen just because the year is so bad. | ||
| But I think this gives our people something to rally around and say there's a set of core principles that make America great a movement. | ||
| Let's stand up against China. | ||
| Let's make sure we're fighting for the working class in this country. | ||
| And Trump can do that. | ||
| I've heard disturbing news this afternoon from pretty dominant people that reinforces what I've been saying. | ||
| Mitch McConnell actually wants to make a deal with the Democrats. | ||
| Mitch McConnell has gotten these guys off the rope time and time and time again. | ||
| I hear that he's worried about the suburban moms. | ||
| The suburban moms are never going to vote for us anyway. | ||
| John Cornyn is really working on a deal with the Democrats. | ||
| First off, as a gunner, walk me through what you're feeling right now about changing any of the gun laws, and two, working with the Democrats to do what they want to do. | ||
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No, there's no reason why anyone, any Republican in the U.S. | |
| Senate has to apologize for anything or has to start caving on our constitutional rights. | ||
| Nobody in the Senate did anything wrong. | ||
| No normal sane person did anything wrong. | ||
| This is a sick and twisted individual. | ||
| Anyone who does this is a sick and twisted individual who, by the way, if they Didn't, if that particular moment they weren't able to access a gun, they would have done something else crazy. | ||
| You see, the fact that we, this is a tragedy that we missed all of these signals over and over and over. | ||
| Just like Buffalo, you see, it's the same, I keep saying it's the same kid time and time again. | ||
| And the authorities either interviewed him and let him go, same thing happened in the situation in, was it Kenosha, the kid there? | ||
| It's the same kid, it's the same kid every time. | ||
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But this is why so many people, so many mega-voters, so many Trump supporters say you can't trust the politicians from either party. | |
| In fact, see, one of the greatest applause lines that President Trump would get in 2016 was when he said he was running against the failed foreign policies from both parties. | ||
| He would name-check Bush, he would name-check Obama, and people would cheer overwhelmingly. | ||
| Because, again, most people look at Washington and say these are a bunch of sellouts. | ||
| And, yes, there are a few good members, so there are some of our friends that are solid. | ||
| But most people, what sticks in their mind are things like what McConnell and Cornyn are doing, which is selling us out. | ||
| Tell me what it was like to travel with him. | ||
| Particularly, there's something very important about that trip. | ||
| That trip, he went to Dallas, I think, or Houston. | ||
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Houston. | |
| Houston for the NRA, then went to Casper, and he did not go back to Florida, he did not go to Chicago for his place. | ||
| He actually stayed in something that was not, that is very rare, as you know, even from the 16 campaign. | ||
| Talk to us about his move, what was he like? | ||
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Great mood. | |
| It's a much smaller unit. | ||
| It's much more like a 2016 as opposed to a 2020. | ||
| Of course, when you're in the White House, you're gonna travel with massive entourage, more people than even even know who half of them are. | ||
| But very great spirits. | ||
| He loves to play DJ on the plane. | ||
| I don't remember him doing this in 2016 or definitely not in 2020. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, he literally- He's got a playlist? | ||
| He has a playlist. | ||
| And I was going to grab a picture of it, then I figured I might get in trouble. | ||
| But no, look, it's got the Rolling Stones, it's got Elton John. | ||
| He's big into- he got on my case for having never seen Phantom of the Opera, played a couple songs from that. | ||
| But he was just rocking out doing his Sam and Dave, a little James Call Me Mr. Brown. | ||
| So you're saying the music that we have in the new playlist that's at the rallies, this is off his playlist? | ||
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Yes, there is a one-to-one correlation between what plays at the rallies, what plays at Mar-a-Lago, and what's on his personal playlist. | |
| He's, I mean, how cool is that? | ||
| Imagine if he had the Steve Bannon playlist everywhere you go. | ||
| Like, everyone just adopts it. | ||
| I'm not quite sure what's on that playlist. | ||
| A lot of dead and a lot of not. | ||
| Real quickly, we're going to bring you back after the break. | ||
| Casper, wow. | ||
| Inside, I'm a big believer in the outdoors, but man, when you get him inside like that, the voice resonates and powerful. | ||
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So here's the thing. | |
| This was the first inside event since Tulsa. | ||
| And I tell you, the difference with being inside, how loud it is, the whole place was shaking. | ||
| The whole place. | ||
| I mean, you forget how loud those inside rallies are. | ||
| First inside since Tulsa in 2020? | ||
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Correct. | |
| First inside rally. | ||
| I didn't even realize that. | ||
| The first Inside Rally since Tulsa? | ||
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Yeah, we didn't broadcast it before the event, so obviously it turned out well and it did great. | |
| No, but that's humongous. | ||
| I mean, that's huge. | ||
| Those Inside Rallies, I mean, it's like the Hoosiers movie in basketball, right? | ||
| You're on it and it's so loud, you can't even hang with me. | ||
| Jason Miller's in the house. | ||
| We're going to talk about social media and how we need to use social media better to drive the Trump revolution. | ||
| All next in The War Room. | ||
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War Room, pandemic. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | |
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| It's standard operating equipment. | ||
| Are you okay, producer? | ||
| It wasn't okay. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| I'm scared. | ||
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Is Vish back in the control room? | |
| Oh my God. | ||
| No, I cleaned up the galley. | ||
| That's where Vish is. | ||
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| Hey, first off, the engine room, I get nothing but heckles, okay, in the break, saying what my playlist would be. | ||
| There's a bunch of people saying fish. | ||
| No, fish is actually the young producer who's got like the movie star shot in the Vanity Fair. | ||
| I'm American Rasputin, and he's like the calming center of the War Room with the cool fish detail. | ||
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You're not into Biebs? | |
| I totally had you pegged as a Belieber. | ||
| You're not Justin Bieber? | ||
| I was going to make a comment, but I'll pull it back. | ||
| Let's talk social media, because the platform is everything, and Getter has been. | ||
| I wanted everybody to know, six weeks ago, seven weeks ago, after screaming in my staff at the hostile worker, that included Captain Bannon, she knows, I finally decided to learn how to do social media myself. | ||
| And here's what stunned me. | ||
| I've never done social media. | ||
| I have been, one, a partner with Andrew Breitbart and then worked for the two dominant players in all of Twitter history, Andrew Breitbart and Donald Trump. | ||
| Never learned how to use it. | ||
| Got in arguments with both of them all the time about it. | ||
| And then Getter, and I can say something. | ||
| This is why everybody in the audience, if you want to see War Room 24-7, we're putting up news and analysis, go get on Getter, because I'm up there 24-7. | ||
| Here's the reason. | ||
| It is so simple to use. | ||
| If I could teach myself in about 10 minutes, I'd finally say, I've got to do this. | ||
| And then I'd go, it's too easy. | ||
| I called Mo. | ||
| I said, this can't be it, right? | ||
| Is this really going? | ||
| She says, yeah, try it. | ||
| Just hit the thing. | ||
| Boom, it was up. | ||
| As soon as I did the first one, I was hooked. | ||
| It's such a powerful tool. | ||
| You know, with Cortez and Posobiec, everybody. | ||
| So walk us through what's going on, and particularly this new, the Vision. | ||
| I think you put a Vision one up before the broadcast? | ||
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Yeah, I'm working on another one. | |
| You might not be able to see it, but some good behind-the-scenes footage of Steve here. | ||
| Let's all post this in a minute. | ||
| We've got Jedi Master and then some MAGA graphics that are going on. | ||
| But here's the cool thing that we've done. | ||
| We've combined all of the fun parts of social media Whether it be Vision, which is now our competitor to TikTok or Instagram Reels, the short video format. | ||
| When you say short, how short are the videos? | ||
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You can have them 15 seconds, 30, up to a minute. | |
| Up to a minute? | ||
| Up to a minute. | ||
| You can add in all the graphics, all the effects. | ||
| You can do several different videos that you put together, several different shots. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| In fact, I was at dinner with the family the other night. | ||
| My 13-year-old, Sydney, looks over and goes, Whoa, Dad, are you on TikTok? | ||
| I was like, No, this is on Getter. | ||
| And she goes, We can't even do that on TikTok. | ||
| I mean, some of the editing. | ||
| Some of the editing, some of the different features. | ||
| So we've combined that with the timeline. | ||
| Everyone still has their timeline, which is the main draw to the platform. | ||
| And then, of course, the live streaming, which, Steve, you've had millions of views to War Room, and everyone's kind of split off from the War Room and doing their things. | ||
| So we've put it all together in one place. | ||
| And so this is great because we know, say, for example, TikTok, of course, anything coming out of China is going to be controlled by the CCP, whether they say it explicitly or implicitly. | ||
| We know that Instagram Reels is going through and sentencing people to digital jail. | ||
| We know that live streams, that YouTube is shutting people down all the time, that Facebook is shutting people down, and we of course know the political discrimination going on with Twitter. | ||
| We've put it together in one place, and to steal the phrase from both of our former boss, we're making social media fun again. | ||
| Here's the thing about social media. | ||
| It's not just Getter. | ||
| Getter, to me, it's my favorite because I love the engagement we get with the audience. | ||
| But you've got Parler, you've got True Social. | ||
| I mean, we're seeing a hundred flowers bloom in this environment. | ||
| And the right is actually crushing. | ||
| I hated to mock today, but I'm going to do it again. | ||
| I don't want to say I told you so. | ||
| Musk threatens to scrap $44 billion Twitter deal over fake accounts. | ||
| You and I talked about it the day he announced it. | ||
| I was on here yelling and screaming. | ||
| He overpaid. | ||
| He's got to drop the price. | ||
| It's all bots, and it's one of the reasons it's so toxic. | ||
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Right? | |
| It's one of the reasons that Twitter is so toxic is the bots. | ||
| The sites on the right, and particularly Getter, just seem to be fun. | ||
| I know you guys have to go through and broom out the bots all the time, but tell me about that. | ||
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Well, so one of the things we want to make it was a more positive user experience. | |
| And Steve, I don't know when the last time you took a look at Twitter now that you have Getter, but I mean, you know, I've stopped looking at comments years ago. | ||
| It's just so negative, so nasty. | ||
| It just it's a terrible experience. | ||
| It's all made up accounts. | ||
| It's all people who are hiding under fake names and things like that. | ||
| And just nothing but just hatred. | ||
| I actually enjoy it when I wake up in the morning and take a look at Getter and see who's on there, whether it be people in the U.S. | ||
| or people around the world, what different ideas are coming in. | ||
| I think it's great, the stuff that you're posting. | ||
| You have excellent content and it's huge engagement. | ||
| And it's just so we have this passionate community that really is going to carry us into 2022 and into 2024. | ||
| I go and actually read all the comments at night, late at night. | ||
| I'll zip to them. | ||
| The comments are amazing. | ||
| It's just it's an incredible platform. | ||
| What else can we look forward to going forward? | ||
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DMs, finally. | |
| Direct messages. | ||
| And polling. | ||
| Yes, and polling. | ||
| We had the talk today, so DMs are on track. | ||
| When's the DM? | ||
| It's June 15th coming up. | ||
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Hold on, hold on. | |
| Where's the CEO? | ||
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So it'll be June 28th, reason for the extra time. | |
| We want to just make sure we have the security, airtight, so we're just doing some extra rounds to make sure that everything is good. | ||
| I will say this, I was not a believer that you guys could ever launch Vision as quickly as you did. | ||
| It took TikTok years, and when you put your thing on it, I said, hey, and the great thing about Vision, I think it's going to get in a younger demographic, right? | ||
| Agreed. | ||
| And I was a big non-believer that you could launch it within a year. | ||
| You guys launched in a couple of months, and it looks like fantastic. | ||
| The beta site, the beta testing was great. | ||
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It's really, really been great. | |
| And so everyone on the platform now has access to Vision. | ||
| Everyone on the platform will have access to DMs when those launch later this month. | ||
| And our one year anniversary is coming up 4th of July. | ||
| And so we're planning we're going to put together a couple of really cool parties, really cool get togethers, give people a chance. | ||
| in Getter Live, a chance for people to come and meet some of your favorite voices that are on Getter. So we're planning a series of meetups not just in DC and New York but Miami and Austin, some other places where we have some strong support bases so it's exciting. I may not be at the Austin one. | ||
| Let's get, I tell you what, we're going to swap out. | ||
| Let's get Peter in from horror. | ||
| Anything else? | ||
| Any other closing thoughts? | ||
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No, just come check out Vision. | |
| It's a lot of fun. | ||
| And you agree. | ||
| We go now. | ||
| Draft Trump. | ||
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He's got to go now. | |
| You do. | ||
| He's got to go now. | ||
| You're somebody that President, people should know this, President thinks very highly of Jason's strategic opinions. | ||
| So you're saying go now. | ||
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History rewards the bold. | |
| Fortune favors the bold. | ||
| Okay, let's try to get Peter in this way from Harder Oaks. | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes. | ||
| Got to loop around that way. | ||
| That way would be outside. | ||
| I know he's Irish, but he's from Limerick. | ||
| And I refuse to call Limerick Stab City. | ||
| One of the many ex-Mrs. Bannons is from Limerick. | ||
| Tell us about Harder Oaks. | ||
| What are you guys doing right now? | ||
| Hearts of Oak, we've had four recent guests being Tim Young, Naomi Wolf, James O'Keefe and Wright's Ed Fred. | ||
| You look exactly like Kevin Costner. | ||
| That's kind of scary. | ||
| You didn't look like that good last time you were here. | ||
| Tell me about Heart of Oak. | ||
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So Heart of Oak, we've had four recent guests being Tim Young, Naomi Wolf, James O'Keefe, and Wright's Ed Fred. | |
| And I love that we're touching on comedy, on music, and also on the journalistic author. | ||
| So it's great to hit those different areas It's not just purely on the commentating side. | ||
| You're talking about right said Fred about how the music industry was decimated through lockdown. | ||
| And Tonda Tim Young again looking at the comedy center. | ||
| His getter site is amazing. | ||
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He was great fun, great fun. | |
| Her book's gonna be a top 10 of New York Times bestseller list. | ||
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Well her book, just the introduction is enough for a whole book. | |
| That 15 pages is intense and she packs so much just in the first 15 pages. | ||
| So it's well worth a read. | ||
| So, tell me about Boris Johnson. | ||
| Why didn't they take care of business yesterday? | ||
| This guy is, he's definitely not MAGA, he's not Britain, he's not Make Britain Again. | ||
| Has everybody, all true hard right conservatives had enough of him? | ||
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Yes, but he's still regarded as an electoral asset. | |
| He's always been regarded as an electoral asset, but that's really chipped away through the whole party gate, where he was telling people, stay at home, don't have a cup of tea with your neighbor, it's illegal, but they were having parties every night. | ||
| So the vote came, there was 202... But tell people how hypocritical that was. | ||
| You guys were in hard lockdown. | ||
| And it turns out 10 Downing Street where, you know, Churchill had run the war from the front. | ||
| It's a revered place like our White House, but particularly it run World War Two in the bunker right next door to have that place during a lockdown, which is equivalent of being in war with this with this virus. | ||
| At the time they're partying and not just that he lied about it. | ||
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He lied about it and the crazy thing was they were partying the night before the funeral of Prince Philip. | |
| So the Queen was there, that picture of her, all by herself because no one could be close to her. | ||
| But they were getting completely drunk the night before in a packed area in Number 10. | ||
| So Number 10 was the party house of the UK. | ||
| And how come he wasn't... Why was he not defeated yesterday? | ||
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Okay, so there are a couple of reasons. | |
| It was a vote of no confidence. | ||
| 202 Conservative MPs backed him. | ||
| 140 went against him. | ||
| That's 40%. | ||
| He doesn't have the backing off. | ||
| That's huge. | ||
| That's a bigger defeat than Margaret Thatcher, than Theresa May, than John Major. | ||
| It's big. | ||
| But yet, how did he hold on? | ||
| And eventually, it happened there and they were out at some time in the future. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. | |
| So I think the Boris ship has taken a torpedo and I don't think he will be able to last us. | ||
| Are we going to get a Nigel Farage or are we going to get a real true Conservative? | ||
| Who's on the horizon? | ||
| Well, sorry to be depressing, but yes, there isn't someone on the horizon and the names they've suggested are depressing. | ||
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I mean, you get rid of Boris, you bring on somebody who's a proper Conservative. | |
| But the future doesn't look as though they're going to bring on a proper Conservative. | ||
| Okay, give your handles on how they get to Heart of Oaks, particularly on Getter, because this is how I found out about you guys. | ||
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So it's at Hearts of Oak. | |
| Hearts, with the passion we have, Oak, for stability, and it's a symbol of Englishness, so at Hearts of Oak. | ||
| And can we announce this, like the Royal Navy, Nelson's Navy, can we announce that I'm going to do the show what day? | ||
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We're going to do it next Thursday, 7 p.m. | |
| UK time, which will be 2 p.m. | ||
| Eastern time. | ||
| 2 p.m. | ||
| time, but it'll be live. | ||
| We'll make sure we get it up on Getter and every other spot. | ||
| Once again, what's your Getter handle? | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| You get up to speed on everything that's happening in the United Kingdom. | ||
| And my beloved Ireland. | ||
| I can't believe you're from Limerick. | ||
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I know. | |
| If I say Stab City, that's not an insult, is it? | ||
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No, I was very young when I was in Limerick, so I've forgotten it all. | |
| Okay, we're going to take a short break. | ||
| Cernovich next, in the War Room. | ||
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| We've got Mike Cernovich who's going to join us here in a second, but I want to go to Wexler. | ||
| Mexico, I guess north of Tapachula, where the caravan is proceeding in our own Oscar Blue Ramirez. | ||
| Oscar, put us in the room down there. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
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Today at 3 o'clock in the morning, sir, they started walking, and they walked more than 16 miles to get to this municipal city. | |
| The name is Wixbla. | ||
| This municipal city is 54,000 population. | ||
| You add now 15,000, and they have summed up that that is the number that the leader of the caravan, the defender of humanitarian rights, Luis Villagran, has told me. | ||
| But the breaking news is, sir, that they just provided a solution for this caravan to move Starting tomorrow, the Mexican government came to an agreement with the Defender of Humanitarian Rights and they're going to provide buses to move them out of the state of Chiapas and to other states around the country of Mexico so later on they can put their humanitarian visa and they can move to the North. | ||
| Voters, sir, specifically Eagle Pass and the Rio Texas, sir. | ||
| So that's why our coverage with Ben Berquam and Eagle Pass in Del Rio. | ||
| Remember the crossroads, you come up from Eagle Pass and from Del Rio and you're at Uvalde, right? | ||
| And that's had 48 lockdowns in the academic year of 2020 and 2021. | ||
| excuse me, 2020 and 2021, the fall of 2020, the spring of 2021, 48 lockdowns in that year, all related to cartel activity or activity of illegal aliens coming up from the border with guns that the police, nothing, they didn't go to the schools, but had 48 lockdown school because of, because of hostiles. | ||
| I tell you what, give us the nationality, 15,000. | ||
| When you first started down there, Oscar, it was 1,000. | ||
| Who's joined this caravan and where are they mainly from? | ||
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Well, that is the whole thing, that everybody is a complete surprise. | |
| 85% of this caravan is people from Venezuela. | ||
| The other 15% is the scattered, you know, people from Cuba, Central America. | ||
| There's a lot of people from Somalia, specifically Somalian Muslims, and also people from Bangladesh, and basically all across the world, Mr. Bennett. | ||
| And they have summed up into 7,000 until Wednesday, last Wednesday. | ||
| Now, on Sunday, that it was the meeting that we're talking about, Uh 10,000 and on the morning of the caravan on Monday on June 6th it rounded up to 12,400 and it has grown because people are uniting and meeting the caravan along the way that they are awaiting their process and they are scattered all over the state of Champa, sir. | ||
| Oscar, hang on for one second while I bring in the great Mike Cernovich. | ||
| Mike, it's primary day in California. | ||
| There's an amazing column out of the L.A. | ||
| Times today saying the ice cube effect about African-American men have now kind of had a belly full of it. | ||
| They're looking for alternatives and they may be voting for Republicans for the first time. | ||
| Give us your sense, you know, with $9 gasoline in downtown L.A., inflation out of control, They're looking to have rolling blackouts now of electricity. | ||
| We had some of our energy experts on today said Florida and California are going to get massively hit by the 300% increase in natural gas also rolling blackouts. | ||
| And on Thursday, we've got the opening exercise. | ||
| The curtain comes up on the January 6th committee. | ||
| Give us your unique Cernovich look on things, sir. | ||
| Yeah, I spend a lot of time just existing. | ||
| And by that I mean I go to the, you know, Korean sauna and just sit in the sauna, listen to people talk. | ||
| I go to a coffee shop and read a book. | ||
| I'm on a, I'm really enjoying reading memoirs of Tour de France writers. | ||
| I mean, what a just bizarre subculture that is. | ||
| And when I do that, I always have my ear open. | ||
| And I always, so I always know what people are saying. | ||
| I said, people say, Cernovich, like, how do you have the finger on the pulse? | ||
| And the answer is because, and you know this, I don't like to talk to people But I like to listen. | ||
| People want to talk to me about things. | ||
| You know it's hard to get me on the show. | ||
| I like to just sit down for an hour and a half. | ||
| People come in. | ||
| What are the conversations? | ||
| What are the themes? | ||
| What's the zeitgeist going on? | ||
| And everything I hear is, I'm a Republican now. | ||
| I'm a Republican now. | ||
| I can't run a business anymore. | ||
| Gas is too high. | ||
| I didn't know things were going to be this bad. | ||
| And the needle, the threat, and nobody talks about January 6th, by the way, so I am of the mind that the more they Democrats do January 6th, the better, because it's honestly, I can't take people seriously who treat this like it was a 9-11. | ||
| And I don't think anybody can. | ||
| It just doesn't work. | ||
| It's been saturation media coverage, as we all know. | ||
| It's been tested. | ||
| It's been focus grouped. | ||
| It's non-stop coverage. | ||
| January 6th, attack on democracy, seditious treason, da da da. | ||
| Nobody cares, dude. | ||
| Nobody cares. | ||
| I'm out there everywhere. | ||
| Adam Kissinger and Schiff and everybody else. | ||
| Dan Crenshaw, who I don't know what kind of game he's playing. | ||
| He doesn't want to stand up for political prisoners. | ||
| Just go sit in a coffee shop, because they're not going to be recognized off Twitter anyway. | ||
| Put a ball cap on and listen to what people are saying. | ||
| Tell me how many times January 6th comes up. | ||
| Tell me how many times anything other than gas prices. | ||
| Oh, we have to close the coffee shop I go to. | ||
| Half the time it's closed now. | ||
| I had to find a new coffee shop. | ||
| And then this other coffee shop, they say... Hold it, hold it, hold it. | ||
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Slow down. | |
| Why is it a coffee shop? | ||
| Is it because of logistics? | ||
| They can't get people? | ||
| Is it because of mass mandates? | ||
| Or is it supplies? | ||
| Why are they closing down a coffee shop? | ||
| They can't get people. | ||
| The shifts just aren't working. | ||
| People don't want to work is what I keep hearing over and over again even though wages haven't caught up in the margins. | ||
| So here's the predicament that you're in if you're a small business. | ||
| Inflation has gone up so high now that your employees just to pay their bills are going to need to make $22 an hour, but your margins at the coffee shop aren't Sufficient to pay people $22 an hour unless you really hijack your prices and then you lose your customers, right? | ||
| That's the predicament. | ||
| We're in this gap, and you worked at Goldman, so you would know the exact terminology, but we're in this gap where inflation is so high now that a lot of people say, well, I mean, if I go work at a job and I make $15 an hour, I can't buy anything anyway. | ||
| Maybe I can just get disability, or maybe I can get Medicare, or maybe I can get unemployment, or maybe I can get something else. | ||
| I just can't do it. | ||
| And if you're that small business coffee shop owner, you can't afford to pay people $22 an hour unless you ratchet up your prices, right? And then you lose your customers and then you don't have a business anymore. So we're in that horrible transitionary period due to inflation and everybody kind of understands the cause. So they'll say, oh, we have to shut down today. | ||
| We're closing at three just so you know. | ||
| I heard that the other day. | ||
| I tweeted it when it happened. | ||
| This other shop I used to go to, there's a sign on the door. | ||
| We're not open. | ||
| We're just not open. | ||
| Hopefully we're open next week. | ||
| And you're seeing that all over. | ||
| You're hearing about gas prices all the time because gas prices and diesel, right? | ||
| People don't know a trucker if that costs $1,100 to fill up his tank. | ||
| That increases the prices of all raw materials, any kind of physical products goods you're in. | ||
| So I was in the sauna the other day. | ||
| It's a Korean spa, so everybody wears a uniform. | ||
| For the people who don't understand how that works, everybody's in full uniform. | ||
| And I hear a couple women talking and they didn't sound like Republicans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So we're in this, another transitionary period we're in is people who, I can tell if you're a Republican or not, right? | ||
| There's little things that'll come out, the way you talk, your patterns of speech. | ||
| I can get a vibe because I had to learn that from my own survival because Democrats now are so, you know, we're so unstable that you say one wrong thing and they're like, well, what did you say? | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you just had to learn as a matter of proactive self-defense, how to, To prevent making them angry, right? | ||
| Don't make the Democrats angry. | ||
| They might try to stab you. | ||
| So I'll hear these people. | ||
| I was like, Oh, these two ladies aren't Republicans. | ||
| And everything they're saying is can't, you know, can't make it the business anymore. | ||
| Cause we had to raise prices too much and prices are going up too much for a company. | ||
| So now we're losing customers. | ||
| And then I had to fire into employees and now I have to do the work. | ||
| So if you're, if you own a company now, a small business, say you have five employees. | ||
| Well, your costs are going up so much. | ||
| You have to fire two of the employees and then you have to do more of the work, right? | ||
| So now you're working 100 hours a week. | ||
| Two people lost a job. | ||
| They figure, well, I might as well get an employment because why go work at the coffee shop for 15 an hour? | ||
| I need 22 an hour to live. | ||
| I'll just take unemployment, which averages out to 13 an hour, because what's the marginal difference, right? | ||
| You're going to be broke either way. | ||
| But why are they saying that they're Republicans now? | ||
| You say the Zeitgeist is that they're saying we can't do this. | ||
| Is the Republicans offering them an alternative they find attractive, or is it just anybody, I can't be a Democrat, I can't vote for this madness anymore? | ||
| They're, not to insult them, but they're still low information voters, so if you're If you're too high on the curve of knowledge, then you know that Republicans aren't really offering solutions. | ||
| But if you're in that middle tier or that lower tier of you don't follow politics because you never have... Let's just start at first principles, right? | ||
| In a properly functioning society, you don't have to think about politics. | ||
| Right? | ||
| That's the way it's supposed to be. | ||
| And if the country's run well, you just run your business, you raise your family, you send them to school, you live your life, and maybe you vote every four years, maybe you don't, right? | ||
| Remember, in 2016, not even half of all registered voters voted. | ||
| So that's the way you want, you know, even though it was bad under Obama, but, you know, the Clinton-Trump thing is a different conversation. | ||
| But the idea is you just live your life. | ||
| You can't do that anymore. | ||
| You can't send your kids to public school. | ||
| Because who knows what they're being taught there and the grooming, everything happening in public schools. | ||
| You can't just fill up a gas tank and drive somewhere. | ||
| You can't just go to work now because everything is so expensive that you're not going to make enough money, so you're going to have to ask for a raise. | ||
| Your boss can't afford to pay the raise. | ||
| So everything, you can't escape the politics now. | ||
| And if you're new to politics, rather than call them low information, we'll just say if you're newer to this, you think, well, Republicans are the party of free enterprise, right? | ||
| That's what a lot of people think. | ||
| I'm afraid they'll be disappointed when Republicans take power in November. | ||
| And then what are they going to do? | ||
| Send another $10 billion a month to Zelensky? | ||
| Offload cash and arms to Western Europe and destabilize Europe. | ||
| So we'll see about that. | ||
| Your recommendation right now to MAGA, your recommendation to War Room, your recommendation to the Republicans about 6 January, it's going to start on Thursday, would be what? | ||
| Don't even mention it. | ||
| Just let it go away. | ||
| Combat it with a counter program. | ||
| Talk about who got murdered that day, what really happened. | ||
| What would your recommendation be? | ||
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Two. | |
| You know, one is that We want to lead them to, we want to basically whatever we can do to get Democrats to talk more about January 6th, we should do. | ||
| So whatever gets them hyperventilating, crying, oh seven people died that day. | ||
| Yeah, because there are Trump supporters who died that day and one of them it looks like got beaten in the head with a baton and that video is being withheld. | ||
| So like the people who got killed it was, you know, Ashley Babbitt got shot in the neck, right? | ||
| But what we don't want to lose sight of is that they are becloning themselves. | ||
| So the key is for us, just stay on message. | ||
| Yeah, people were killed. | ||
| An unarmed woman was shot in the neck and bled out. | ||
| Another woman. | ||
| They tried to claim she took Adderall or something but she had a heart attack because she was smushed between these crowds and it looked like she was hit over the head with a baton. | ||
| But they won't release the video footage. | ||
| So everything for the people who care about America has to be, hey we agree, release all the videos. | ||
| We agree, we want to see all the videos. | ||
| 14,000 hours of footage, we want to see it all. | ||
| What happened in that melee where members of the Capitol Police thought that they were in Thermopylae And they had their batons and they were just smashing people over the head. | ||
| Let's see the video, right? | ||
| Let's just see the video of that. | ||
| So you want to be there, but the key to keep in mind is the Democrats look like unserious people, unfit to govern, because they're hyperventilating over an event that they compare to 9-11. | ||
| Michael, just hang on, Mike Cernovich is going to stick with a short commercial break. | ||
| Cernovich on the other side. | ||
| We're also going to go back to southern Mexico with Oscar Blue Ramirez, Real America's Voice. | ||
| You're in the War Room, back in a second. | ||
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We spread the word all through Hong Kong. | |
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| We rejoice when there's no more. | ||
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| Okay, let's go to Oscar Blue Ramirez. | ||
| He's the investigative reporter who's been down in southern Mexico for Real America's Voice from the very beginning of this. | ||
| Oscar, tell us what is the progress you're going to make tomorrow and what should people be looking for as this caravan continues to grow? | ||
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Well, sir, tomorrow is going to be the day that they're going to be moved out to other states right here in the south part of Mexico. | |
| And let's see which states are they're going to move them on. | ||
| And let's see how the process is going to be in terms to the humanitarian visa and the visa transfer. | ||
| How long is it going to take? | ||
| By that, we will know how long they are going to take to get to the North voters. | ||
| We haven't heard anything from the Biden administration regarding how they are going to handle this massive influx that is going to be arriving. | ||
| We know by, you know, Ben Bergstrom that he has said voter patrol are overwhelmed. | ||
| They cannot handle, as right now, the overwhelming, you know, massive influx that they are having at the North voters. | ||
| But right now, sir, according to the leader of the caravan, tomorrow at 8 o'clock in the morning, buses are going to be arriving to take this massive influx, the historic caravan, the biggest caravan that has ever come out of the south border of Mexico into the United States of America, sir. | ||
| We're going to be live with Oscar Ramirez tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock as we kick off the war room. | ||
| So I want to thank Oscar. | ||
| Oscar, give your coordinates. | ||
| How do people follow you overnight? | ||
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Oscar Blue on Gitter, sir. | |
| YouTube. | ||
| Oscar Blue on Twitter. | ||
| OscarBlueRamirez.com. | ||
| Our website, of course, realamericabushnews.com, sir. | ||
| Oscar, see you tomorrow morning at 10. | ||
| By the way, next hour we're going to have Chris Kobach, one of the absolute most brilliant people about all of this, and he's going to make the case for the impeachment of Joe Biden off the invasion on the southern border, and specifically a lot of it tied to these caravans. | ||
| Chris Kobach will be up there. | ||
| Also, Bill Gertz. | ||
| Disturbing news out of China today. | ||
| They put a shot across the American government's bow, and the American people said, hey, any move at all to sanction China will demand immediately they will seize They should seize all the chip production in Taiwan. | ||
| They said they actually ought to quarantine now so that no chip production leaves to go to the United States. | ||
| We're going to have Bill Gertz on about that, Cleta Mitchell on about MSNBC, this thing, this article, American Rasputin, about the army, the army of the awakened that we're building right now to take over the elections, to take over the school boards, to take it all over. | ||
| They want democracy, we're going to give them democracy. | ||
| Michael Cernovich, you're one of the smartest guys out there. | ||
| You were very early on in the Trump movement because you got the Zeitgeist at the time. | ||
| Right now, is it going to be any big changes? | ||
| Because I'm saying 2024 is going to be California vs. America, Woke vs. MAGA. | ||
| It's going to be Newsom vs. Trump. | ||
| Is anything going to change today in these elections? | ||
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L.A. | |
| Times saying that African-American males are going to start voting for Republicans. | ||
| Do you see any change coming out of the primaries tonight in California? | ||
| I don't see any big changes because people are still focused on the national instead of the county, but that's changing. | ||
| Here's the number one trend that I would leave people with right now. | ||
| The number one thing that I'm seeing on the ground is the Montessori moms. | ||
| Right now, that is the most important demographic for Republicans and conservatives to pick up right now. | ||
| And we could do a whole segment on that sometime, but I'm telling you the Montessori moms, are much more likely to be more open-minded. | ||
| They care about their kids. | ||
| They put their family first. | ||
| They're liberal-minded, center-left, but they're seeing how bad things are now with the riots, the terrorism, the grooming happening at schools and everything else. | ||
| That right now is the biggest cult. | ||
| And we talked about this, I think, before a couple of years ago. | ||
| Now it's becoming, you know, a lot of times they say things and they're so, there's such seedlings that people can't see anything and they question it, but now it's becoming an even bigger trend. | ||
| So I really think that if I were doing political activism, all I would think about every day is, you know, and all moms in general, but like the Montessori moms, the homeschool moms, That would be what politically every message should be directed to us. | ||
| How's this going to resonate with involved moms who maybe they're a little bit more, you know, centrist, maybe they're not like a hardcore person necessarily, but they see what is happening. | ||
| How are you going to make coalitions with them? | ||
| I think that's the most important mindset that people can have right now and the most important shifting political alliance that can be made. | ||
| I want to have you back for a whole hour and break that down because you're a guy that sees over the, as Wellington said, sees over the other side of the hill. | ||
| Real quickly before you punch, how bad is the economics out there for the average person living in an Orange County, right? | ||
| We just saw the other day that 36% of people that make $250,000 or more are living paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| How bad is inflation? | ||
| Food, housing, gasoline, energy, and now interest rates. | ||
| How bad is it impacting the Golden State, particularly Southern California? | ||
| Well, the food thing, I started doing videos on that a year and a half, two years ago. | ||
| I don't know how people make it. | ||
| When you just go shop for ordinary, it just goes up, it's an exorbitant level right now. | ||
| So, people are struggling to get by. | ||
| Now, the one saving grace for people who are Gen X, or Boomers, or maybe even late Millennials, is if they bought the houses early enough, a lot of people are tapping into home equity because there's a housing shortage. | ||
| Right now it's a perfect storm, honestly. | ||
| There's an inventory shortage, and housing prices are still going up, even though interest rates are high, because there's a shortage. | ||
| Where are you going to live? | ||
| So what we're seeing now is a lot of people are tapping into home equity, but unlike in 2008, there is actually home equity. | ||
| There's actually an economic basis for some of these decisions, but that's how people are surviving, is they're just tapping into the equity of their house and using that as a savings account. | ||
| Otherwise, Really, really hard to make it. | ||
| Cernovich, how do people, what are your coordinates? | ||
| How do people follow you? | ||
| Usually just on Twitter, at C-E-R-N-O-V-I-C-H. | ||
| I've made myself harder to find over the years, and yet, it's having like an inverse effect. | ||
| So, it's a weird paradox. | ||
| Cernovich never pitches to come on shows. | ||
| You gotta go to Cernovich. | ||
| And man, he is a smart, perceptive guy. | ||
| Michael Cernovich, thank you very much. | ||
| Appreciate you coming on today. | ||
| Always a pleasure. | ||
| Okay, next hour, Cleta Mitchell, Naomi Wolf, Chris Kobach, Bill Gertz. | ||
| It's going to be absolutely packed as we go to Battleground. |
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