June 4, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | |
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| That this is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
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France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | |
| Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room. | ||
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Pandemic. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome! | ||
| You're in the War Room. | ||
| It is a Saturday, 4 June, the year of our Lord 2022. | ||
| You know what that is. | ||
| It is the anniversary of Tiananmen Square and, of course, the foundation of the new Federal State of China, which is a kind of a government in exile. | ||
| I say government in opposition to the transnational criminal organization that's in Beijing. | ||
| We've got a lot to get to. | ||
| It's a special Geopolitics 101. | ||
| We're going to go around the world. | ||
| I've got Jack Posobiec from Hunan Events. | ||
| Jack is just back, really off the plane from that incredible trip he took to Poland and the incredible trip he took to Davos and Geneva and all of it. | ||
| And actually Ukraine. | ||
| He was 700 miles. | ||
| He went to Odessa. | ||
| We're going to get the full report there. | ||
| We're going to talk about The current geopolitical situation, how it impacts you, how it's going to impact you, because we are not just in a fourth turning. | ||
| We are in a very, very, very dangerous arena. | ||
| And so we're going to get to all of it. | ||
| I want to first go to Ben Harnwell. | ||
| We haven't had enough time during the... Daily shows have been so packed and we've got to kind of force people in because we've got so much to cover. | ||
| Last week we did, and this is kind of should be looked at as part two from last week's special, the coming war over Taiwan and here's why. | ||
| Last week we laid out the geostrategic and strategic interests of the United States and actually the Chinese Communist Party in the South China Sea, around Taiwan, in East Asia. | ||
| We talked about the necessity of Taiwan as what we call Silicon Valley West. | ||
| And really the, what, 80 or 90% of the advanced chip design for the United States industry, for the advanced industrial democracy that we are. | ||
| And we also talked about East Asia, hegemony, what it means to China, what China's trying to do with the One Belt, One Road, all of it. | ||
| The second part of it is where people, and I got a tremendous amount of feedback. | ||
| They were very concerned. | ||
| We had Mr. Nyquist, I think Jeff Nyquist, but particularly Captain Jim Kimo Finnell, Captain Finnell. | ||
| And what was most important about Captain Finnell, he walked through the very tough logistics. | ||
| Remember, Captain Finnell, just to put it in perspective, was a, and this is when Pasovic gets here and we talk it through, is a Revered naval officer. | ||
| Captain Finnell was the head of naval intelligence for PACCOM, which the Pacific Fleet is part of out in Pearl Harbor. | ||
| He gave a speech, I think it was in 2014, it was during the Obama administration. | ||
| He gave a speech. | ||
| Remember, all they're focused on there is Afghanistan and Iraq and, you know, the Middle East, CENTCOM, Tampa drives everything. | ||
| The Pacific had kind of been forgotten about, and Obama had tried to have this pivot to Asia. | ||
| He understood that we need to focus on the rise of China. | ||
| He deputized his vice president, Joe Biden. | ||
| That's where we get into the laptop from hell and the hard drive from hell and all that. | ||
| That all starts in that time frame of Of 2010, 11, 12, all the way to 14, when Joe Biden is spending his 17,000 hours with Xi, you know, 17,000 miles, unlimited time with Xi, one-on-one. | ||
| Remember, Hunter Biden's on those trips, and this is where Hunter Biden gets caught up in the, really, the Chinese Communist Party honeypotting. | ||
| And that's all on the hard-driving seal, the depravity. | ||
| And that's when he starts making the contacts and eventually he becomes part of it. | ||
| But what Captain Finnell said, Captain Finnell went back and gave a talk at the Naval Academy, a speech at the Naval Academy. | ||
| And he lays out how we have taken our eye off the ball in Asia and we're living on a myth. | ||
| Or this legendary, the 7th Fleet, of which I was part of as a young man back in the 1970s and early 1980s, that the 7th Fleet, this renowned instrument of war and peace for the United States that was bombed at Pearl Harbor, I guess it was technically the 3rd Fleet at Pearl Harbor, but had basically led across the mid-Pacific and then the northern Pacific I guess you could say the South Pacific, too, down the Solomon Islands. | ||
| They had led this amazing victory, right? | ||
| They had been the tip of the spear for the victory for all the amphibious operations and carrier operations and got ready for the assault on Japan, you know, took Guam, Iwo Jima, all that. | ||
| And he said, we're not ready. | ||
| We are kidding ourselves. | ||
| We think we're going to win a war with the CCP because they are building a fleet that will match ours and they will have land-based missiles that will more than match ours. | ||
| And he was basically cashiered for that. | ||
| And he left being the head of Naval Intelligence for the Pacific Fleet. | ||
| And so he was cashiered for that. | ||
| He's a renowned guy. | ||
| And Pasobic, he's a legendary guy, Pasobic Nosecoats. | ||
| Pasobic's a Naval Intelligence officer. | ||
| And he was cashiered for that. | ||
| So last week when we did the show, you know, Jack and everybody was overseas. | ||
| And Captain Finnell came on and he said, hey, They're mobilizing. | ||
| They're mobilizing and they're mobilizing right now in a situation where they're actually going to war. | ||
| They're getting ready to go to war in Taiwan. | ||
| And hey, and he laid it out, I think they could take us on right now in a war in the Pacific and particularly around Taiwan. | ||
| And I think they would defeat the United States Navy and they could have a kinetic war victory in Jack Pasovi is now stepped in joining us of war room special. | ||
| The war special is a follow on to the first it's geopolitics one on one, which is the second part of the coming war over Taiwan. We're actually going to talk about Europe, Davos, Geneva, we got Ben Harnwell, Jack, thank you very much for joining us. I'm just I'm just teeing up what happened last week for our audience. | ||
| You know, and and for the edification of the listeners is I actually had the opportunity to serve with Captain Fennell. | ||
| So I actually knew him when we were both in the service. | ||
| Me as one of the, you know, the intel grundoons while he was, you know, up there at the... A legendary figure. | ||
| Oh, infamous. | ||
| Infamous. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| We actually went to Korea together to go to the South Koreans and explain to them and say, look, we've got to work together. | ||
| We've got to fight. | ||
| We've got to fight Bruin in the South China Sea and vis-a-vis the East China Sea when it comes to Taiwan. | ||
| And we need all hands on deck. | ||
| And as you know, or maybe as people don't realize, that we work with the Koreans and we work with the Japanese in East Asia. | ||
| However, the Koreans and the Japanese do not work well together. | ||
| So this was one of the issues that we were trying to deal with while we were there to say, look, we've all got one common foe. | ||
| History is going to be history, right? | ||
| Can't change that. | ||
| Here in the in the here and now and in the present fight We've got a fight against Taiwan that's or against China what vis-a-vis Taiwan the CCP and you've got even with all the southern ASEAN Your patriots down there. | ||
| You've got the Philippines. | ||
| You've got Vietnam for example as a great biggest of the brave tiger so Vietnam Obviously a country that's got a little bit of history with the United States. | ||
| You know our parents were shooting at each other basically and They put it all aside, but that's ancient, that's long history. | ||
| Right, to them that's ancient history, and now the U.S. | ||
| Navy goes over and trains with the Vietnamese Navy and Vietnamese forces. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It's all about China. | ||
| Okay, so here's where I want to do this. | ||
| I want to set what happened in Geneva and Davos in the World Economic Forum and talk about Ukraine, because that's part of the geopolitics We've got two hours to do this. | ||
| I want to bring in Ben Harnwell from Rome. | ||
| For the two hours, you've got Harnwell, you've got Posobiec, and you've got Bannon. | ||
| So I've got Italy, Poland, and the good old United States here. | ||
| June is the anniversary of Tiananmen. Talk about the people don't know the geopolitics of that and then get up to currently we've got two hours to do this. I want to bring in Ben Harnwell from Rome. | ||
| For the two hours you've got Harnwell, you've got Posobiec, and you got Bannon. So I got Italy, Poland, and the good old United States here. I guess the Irish division represented. | ||
| Ben, you know, I'm going to get to Jack and his travels and all that, but get us up to date. | ||
| Towards the end of the week, one article after the other was popping about how Europe and the European leaders, our betters, were having huge second thoughts about piling into this Ukraine situation, particularly financially, natural gas. | ||
| And somebody had actually come to the realization, it was a brilliant piece, how Germany And they used to say before 1914, before the guns of August, that the famous book is called The Sleepwalkers, how everybody just was sleepwalking into that conflict and didn't see it coming. | ||
| Here, they actually refer to the Germans as the sleepwalkers, ended this with the Green New Deal, and everything they were talking about as far as green energy, and left themselves really captured by the worst part of the kleptocracy, of the Russian oligarchs. | ||
| Ben Harnwell. | ||
| That's fine, Steve. | ||
| Good morning. | ||
| In fact, we said earlier on in the week how we did a dive on this, how the upper echelons of the political and civil service in Germany had a revolving door and they were leaving their jobs in Berlin and going off to work for Vladimir Putin in the Kremlin. And I think that the biggest example of that is the former social Democrat, | ||
| I say, center left chancellor himself, Gerhard Schroeder, 20 years ago, chancellor before Angela Merkel. And to this day, he is still on the board of Gauss-Bramm, even though he's had all of his privileges as a former chancellor confiscated by the present by his successor, Olaf Scholz. And that is an illustration of the degree of, let's call it affinity, and between the German political class and Russia, when it | ||
| comes to energy. Why? Because that is an extremely lucrative and essential component of the German economy. This is why. | ||
| Within 10 days, within a week to 10 days of the beginning of this crisis, the War Room, I think, was the first to go in and say exactly why Germany was dependent on Russian energy and why it would be resisting up until the last fuel and energy embargo. | ||
| And this has been absolutely fulfilled over the Passage of the last three or four months, up until the present moment. | ||
| And in fact, the very much heralded and trumpeted oil embargo that the EU announced last week, it doesn't come into effect until the end of the year. | ||
| It only deals with Russian oil, not with Russian gas. | ||
| And it is basically a performative operation. | ||
| as we've been saying all along on the war. | ||
| And we've also been saying why it is performative. | ||
| And what we can see right now, looking at the European Union, is a slow crystallization because even if Germany has been resisting the full force of the EU's embargoes, it is now sliding towards accepting the following, the Ursula von der Leyen position, which is obviously the US position. | ||
| Um, and I... | ||
| And he's no longer at the forefront of the resistance. | ||
| That particular crown is now being borne by Viktor Orban in Hungary, who has done exceptional work in preserving and protecting, quite legitimately, his country's national interest, along with the governments of the Czech Republic and Slovakia. | ||
| And they themselves were able to, simply by arguing diplomatically amongst their colleagues Ben, hang on a second. | ||
| of government, they were able to obtain for their countries opt-out and exemptions to the already- Ben, hang on a second. | ||
| How did people, how did these leaders not know or do the math that this was going to have major financial and economic implications for the people? | ||
| The quote, I think, around Draghi's gang was that, hey, when it comes in August, when people in Italy, in Rome, have to decide between air conditioning at a price or peace, they're going to choose air conditioning. | ||
| So how did this catch people by surprise? | ||
| Well, I suppose because my analysis on this is that since the fall of the Berlin Wall, politics hasn't been driven by politics. | ||
| It's been ever more driven by personality. | ||
| To the extent that 30 years onwards now, where we don't have this great left Right. | ||
| Divide as an intellectual structure. | ||
| Our politicians, how do they differentiate themselves in the open electoral market? | ||
| By being morally superior to their competition. | ||
| That is why we see, even though they know that this is probably going to be electoral suicide. | ||
| I mean, just look at the Democrats, the way they're in meltdown now in the States. | ||
| November is looming, and yet they cannot not Okay, hang on for a second. | ||
| Short break. | ||
| We're going to go out with Miles Guo taking down the CCP. | ||
| It's the anniversary of Tiananmen Square. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, a Mandarin-speaking naval intelligence officer in the house, in the war room. | ||
| Geopolitics 101, next. | ||
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| Jack Posobiec. | ||
| Took the night train 700 miles down to Odessa, to actually the tip of the, really with the battle, the wars going on. | ||
| And thank God, I blew up, I know Charlie Kirk was most proud, but I blew up Jack Pasovic like nobody's business, thinking that Tanya Tay, one of my favorite people in the world. | ||
| No, no, she was not on that train. | ||
| That Tanya Tay might have been with him and says, no, Tanya was back in Slovakia. | ||
| No, so we... Slovenia? | ||
| Slovakia, yeah. | ||
| So we go on the train, myself and my brother, and we enter the train right there... Isn't there like a rule in Ukraine? | ||
| You can't have two posobics in Ukraine at one time? | ||
| Well, I mean... How do they prove those visas? | ||
| We're not... Oh, no visas now. | ||
| No visas now. | ||
| We're just going, man. | ||
| We're just going. | ||
| All the bets are off. | ||
| All the rules are off. | ||
| There's no border procurement. | ||
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If you want to go in and you guys... I mean, they check. | |
| There's checking and they're checking passports and all that. | ||
| They try to sign you guys up? | ||
| Uh, a little bit, yeah, actually. | ||
| Kevin, Kevin may have, um, I don't know, Kevin was listening a little bit. | ||
| He said, maybe I'll go ahead, maybe I'll run some of these, uh, run some of these guns, I don't know. | ||
| But, um, no, we were, we were at the train station in Poland. | ||
| Um, it's the last, so we had actually spent the night with my family in Poland the night before, so my family, the Posobics in Poland, Only live about an hour from the last train station in Poland before you get to the Ukraine border. | ||
| So we had spent the night with them at their house in the village. | ||
| That's because the Basovichs used to be one of the overlords. | ||
| As I refer to Western Ukraine, I refer to Western Ukraine as like Southeast Poland. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Peasants and soldiers all the way back. | ||
| And farmers. | ||
| And so we spend the night with them. | ||
| They put out the, you know, put out the spread for us. | ||
| The kebabs, the pierogies, everything. | ||
| Trying to get us to drink this raspberry vodka. | ||
| But I said, no, I don't, I don't imbibe. | ||
| I don't imbibe. | ||
| Come on, you have to, you have to. | ||
| So we wake up early the next morning. | ||
| We go down to the train station, have our tickets across. | ||
| Tanya's with us at the, at the station. | ||
| I said, sweetheart, you can't come. | ||
| I said, I can't, I can't. | ||
| Oh, she went down to see? | ||
| She thought she was going. | ||
| She wasn't sure what the plan was. | ||
| I said, sweetie, you can't come. | ||
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Right. | |
| Okay, not, not, not where we're going, right? | ||
| This is, so what I did is I got her a, now the Carpathian Mountains are just across the border in Slovakia, right there. | ||
| The Tatras, actually, the high Tatras. | ||
| Uh, is this area. | ||
| So I got her this great mountain resort. | ||
| Isn't that where, isn't that where Vlad the Impaler, isn't that? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| That's Romania. | ||
| That's down in Romania. | ||
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Okay, fine. | |
| That's the other, that's the other. | ||
| All the Balkans, it all kind of blends together. | ||
| It goes Slovakia, then the Carpathians of Ukraine, where, which just got struck last night, by the way. | ||
| All a bad neighborhood. | ||
| This week, and then down to Romania. | ||
| So, so I sent her up. | ||
| Beautiful, mountaintop resort. | ||
| I said, you're gonna stay here, and keep your phone handy in case we have any issues. | ||
| We're going in. | ||
| We're going to Odessa. | ||
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But! | |
| We didn't just stay in Odessa and I didn't tell her how far we were going. | ||
| We went all the way down, so we get to Odessa on the night train, stopped by in Lviv for a few hours while we were there, met with some local contacts, local activists, journalists, people that are involved with some of these volunteer fighters that have gone over. | ||
| Got a sense of what was happening there. | ||
| Talked about the guns that are being run in from Poland right now, actually. | ||
| AR-15s and AK-47s to the Ukrainian people, to the Ukrainian flight. | ||
| Body armor, helmets, etc. | ||
| These are American weapons that are flying through there? | ||
| Well, some of them are American, some of them are Polish-made. | ||
| It's a whole patchwork of stuff that's going over. | ||
| It's a dog's breakfast of weaponry. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And I mean, if you want to pick up something, that's the place to go right now. | ||
| You know, you go to somebody's house and they've got body armor and quick clot and tourniquets just strewn out across their beds and sofas. | ||
| You know, I mean, it's, you know, pretty much take what you want. | ||
| So, we make it down to Odessa, and then we reach out to more local contacts. | ||
| Hang on, people should understand, Odessa is the key that kind of picks the lock. | ||
| You've got the land bridge, but that's the major port of Ukraine. | ||
| And Russia would love to have, I mean, in World War II, They didn't give up Odessa easily. | ||
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No. | |
| This is something, it's a crown jewel. | ||
| Right, this was, and you can see, even in the city of Odessa there on the Black Sea, I mean, you can see the imperial architecture, you can see, I mean, it reminds me of some of the buildings that you might see in St. | ||
| Petersburg, right? | ||
| This is St. | ||
| Petersburg on the Black Sea. | ||
| This was the city of Catherine the Great, right? | ||
| This is a huge, huge city going back to the Russian Empire, going back to the Czars, right? | ||
| This was their port on the Black Sea. | ||
| This was the center of commerce, this was the center of civilization, whereas Crimea, that was more your military side. | ||
| That was more the military part of everything, and so going back hundreds and hundreds of years. | ||
| And so, for the Russians, even now, for Putin, this would absolutely constitute, number one, a strategic port, obviously, because if you take that, then you essentially landlock Ukraine. | ||
| So then Kiev doesn't have the ability to get anything to the sea. | ||
| They can't touch the ocean at all. | ||
| Like, all the wheat from Russia and from Ukraine is now locked up. | ||
| The Russians can determine where it's going. | ||
| Well, it's locked up now because of the blockade. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like I was saying, if you control Odessa, you can basically determine You're running the entire Northern Black Sea at this point. | ||
| It's basically between them and Turkey. | ||
| And so we leave Odessa, though. | ||
| We leave Odessa, and we took the road, the highway, up to Mykolaiv. | ||
| Now Mykolaiv, that's about an hour north. | ||
| Nikolayev is the last Ukrainian holdout city before you get to Russian occupied territory and Kursan. | ||
| So Kursan's the next city over. | ||
| We made it as far... And Kursan has not fallen yet. | ||
| That's still under siege, right? | ||
| Kursan's Russian. | ||
| That's all Russian forces. | ||
| In the early days. | ||
| Because Kursan's right across from Crimea. | ||
| That's the land bridge. | ||
| The northern tip, right? | ||
| So that's your land bridge. | ||
| And so we made it as far as we're literally on the Kursan Highway. | ||
| Probably about... How many miles outside of Kursan? | ||
| Probably about 15 minutes from where the fighting was actually going. | ||
| We could hear, you know, a couple loud booms while we were there, that kind of stuff. | ||
| There was actually a counter-offensive, an attempted counter-offensive, that we later found out was good. | ||
| We didn't have great signal while we were there, but we later found out there was a counter-offensive that the Ukrainians were attempting while we were there on the ground. | ||
| Only about 15 minutes. | ||
| You and I, one of the reasons I loved you going there, you and I have discussed a lot, you're from a naval intelligence background, and I was an aide to the CNO after sea duty, how it was hard, we haven't seen a lot of what we call organized fighting, combined arms fighting. | ||
| Did you, while you were there, and I'm not questioning the courage and valor of these patriots that want to defend Ukraine, they're very brave people for their country. | ||
| Did you see any semblance of an organized, what we would consider a military resistance, a combined arms resistance by the Ukrainians? | ||
| Or does it still look like militias, foreign mercenaries, and local patriots are just kind of saying, hey, I'm not giving up to the Russians? | ||
| It's kind of a grab bag, right? | ||
| It's kind of a grab bag of that, where you've got, so every checkpoint that we went through was either controlled by, and we went through at least a dozen or more checkpoints just to get to the city of Michelia, which is completely besieged and blockaded right now. | ||
| It's grim. | ||
| It is very grim, and it's deteriorating there in those regions. | ||
| And you got people still living there. | ||
| They're holding on. | ||
| They're trying to stay. | ||
| Everybody else has gotten out of Dodge, but there's still people, families, kids that are there. | ||
| Because they're saying, hey, it's better better for me to be here than being a refugee. | ||
| You know, if that were, I mean, you know, I can't speak to, you know, my position, but I would have gotten out if I could. | ||
| But obviously the men, they can't leave the country at this point. | ||
| But this is actually, speaking on that point about this draft and the conscription. | ||
| So just because you can't leave the country as a military age male, I think it's 18 to 65, that doesn't mean that you're automatically in the military. | ||
| Oh, I thought everybody had, I thought they volunteered everybody. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| So there is a process, and because that was something, a question that I had had. | ||
| Now, the first question was, I said, wait a minute, you guys mean the trains are still running in Western Ukraine? | ||
| So the train was actually still running all the way from Lviv down to Odessa. | ||
| You could even, Steve, you could even send trains to Kharkiv. | ||
| I'm sure the train to Odessa was not packed. | ||
| Um, more packed than you would realize. | ||
| More packed than you would imagine. | ||
| Who is going, who is heading towards Odessa right now? | ||
| You've got people. | ||
| Contractors or mercenaries? | ||
| No, no Ukrainians. | ||
| Oh yeah, Ukrainians. | ||
| We had soldiers throughout the entire first car was soldiers. | ||
| Okay, I got that. | ||
| Right, and that's something to point out as well. | ||
| Soldiers are on the same, in uniform. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Soldiers are on the same train as civilians. | ||
| First off, when you told me you were on the night train, that's a target, okay? | ||
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Right. | |
| Because those soldiers, are those soldiers in a unit that is a combined arms unit, or is it once again militias, a bunch of guys that signed up and are trying to defend their country? | ||
| This was regular army. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We would see regular Army. | ||
| So you saw some real guys? | ||
| Territory Defense, yeah, but young. | ||
| Very young. | ||
| You saw people that have been, you know, had police uniforms on, but they looked like, you know, 18, 19 at the train stations, you know, telling you, hey, don't film here, don't film there. | ||
| You've got humanitarian aid going all around the train station in Lviv and Odessa. | ||
| But the city of Lviv is beautiful, by the way. | ||
| Have you been to Lviv? | ||
| No. | ||
| Absolutely gorgeous. | ||
| If you go to Odessa, you've got to go to it for the history, but Lviv, that town is absolutely magnificent. | ||
| A lot of history there as well. | ||
| It was part of Poland at one point, it was part of the Austrian Empire at one point, and each successive regime has kind of left their stamp on it. | ||
| In fact, it's been everything except its own country. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
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100%. | |
| Until created all of a sudden by the West. | ||
| So we would see a lot of these various forces manning the checkpoints as we got closer and closer, but to your point, even in the city of Mykolaiv, We're not seeing, you know, tanks. | ||
| We're not seeing artillery. | ||
| We're not... A lot of those things that you would expect to be seeing, when you're pretty close, you imagine you'd be using Mikhailov with this fortress city concept. | ||
| That's the concept they used for the defense of Kiev. | ||
| That's the concept they're using for Kharkiv up in the north. | ||
| Explain what fortress city is. | ||
| city is before we go to break. | ||
| So the fortress city concept is it's old, right? | ||
| It's this idea that your city is your base of operations. | ||
| You use that for cover. | ||
| You use that for your supplies, your munitions. | ||
| And then when they try to attack the city, you barricade the city itself. | ||
| This is like history from one hundred. | ||
| This is 100 AD. | ||
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| It's medieval. | ||
| It's pre-medieval. | ||
| It's pre-medieval. | ||
| It's ancient. | ||
| This is World War II, you know, we tried to say, oh, that's, you know, Maginot Line, and you don't need that anymore. | ||
| It's all about maneuver warfare. | ||
| They're not doing that. | ||
| The Russians don't maneuver. | ||
| Fortress City. | ||
| Fortress City. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a break. | ||
| When we come back, we're going to get Ben Harnwell. | ||
| Remember, the 100th day of the war, basically. | ||
| When it first started, everybody's, you know, jumping up and down. | ||
| They're going to do this, they're going to do that. | ||
| They're not jumping anymore. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| They're focused on the grim realities of what the elites in the West have brought upon the Ukrainian people by misleading them. | ||
| It's Geopolitics 101. | ||
| It is the anniversary of Tiananmen Square for June 2022. | ||
| 20, 22, we're gonna be back in a moment. | ||
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| We rejoice when there's no more, let's take down the CTD! | ||
| War Room, Pandemic, with Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we're honored to have Jack Posobiec back from a very dangerous trip. | ||
| That part was to Davos, but he also went to Ukraine. | ||
| And they're getting treated better in Ukraine than we were in Davos. | ||
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The first time he got rolled up in Davos, I'm surprised they let you out. | |
| About the night train to Odessa and then going down to the actual front. | ||
| And he's going to give us some more detail about the devastation. | ||
| We were on the train about 40 hours total. | ||
| Forty hours. | ||
| Forty hours. | ||
| Between the border and getting there. | ||
| And that's a nice part of the trip. | ||
| Then you've got to go close to the war zone. | ||
| Ben, a hundred days ago, when this thing all started, you had everybody running around, Virtue Signaling, putting stuff up in their Twitter account. | ||
| Everybody, you know, Mika, for what, 60 days, wore the blue and gold of the Ukrainian flag. | ||
| Do folks in Europe now, when you're going around Rome or other people you talk to in the UK and France, do they understand the devastation and agony of the Ukrainian people and how they're kind of complicit in this, sir? | ||
| No, not particularly, Steve. | ||
| There's a total separation. But then that's normally the case as well in the West. There's a divorce between cause and effect. And that's one of the primary reasons that we have so many failings on a legislative basis. Parliamentarians, they do something, they say we're going to concentrate on X, but there's no thought to second order, third order, fourth order consequences of that. It's just piling on X. And then what happens after | ||
| that? It's not even, it doesn't impress, It doesn't, um... | ||
| It's a very, very good question. | ||
| There's no appreciation for it. | ||
| The people in Ukraine, when you're talking to the Ukraine, what do they think the people in Western Europe and America are hearing? | ||
| I mean, what is their sense of our connection to their plight? | ||
| Well, it's interesting because, you know, and I traveled throughout Western Europe before we got to Ukraine, and we would see, even in Zurich and Geneva, the flags would be up, right? | ||
| So you've got Ukrainian flags up all across Poland, you've got the flags up in the city. | ||
| Even if it's not on the lips of everybody there, you've still at least got the flags up in sort of your major metropolitan centers there of Europe. | ||
| But in the city of Lviv, I mean, that's really your heart of Ukrainian nationalism, right? | ||
| So in Lviv, it's, how can we get the supplies in? | ||
| That's in the far western, near the Polish border. | ||
| Right, so you're just across from the Polish border, and so in the city of Lviv, it's full speed ahead, right? | ||
| It's, we've got the support of the Western governments, we're getting the money in, you guys don't understand what, you know, we're hearing you have some rumblings about it, but you don't understand, we're gonna be free, we're gonna keep fighting, we're gonna press on, we're gonna win. | ||
| Right, but that's Lviv. | ||
| And Lviv, I mean, it's a city of cobblestones and courtyards that just spill into each other. | ||
| Huge Orthodox community, also a huge Greek Catholic community there as well. | ||
| And so you go into the old Catholic churches, as we did, and it's all in Polish there. | ||
| All the murals and everything are in Polish. | ||
| You gotta be loving that. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And, as we're going around, though, but, you know, the jazz clubs are open, the cafes are open, people are sitting out in the squares. | ||
| In Lviv. | ||
| In Lviv, right? | ||
| That's where I see the MSNBC Correspondent. | ||
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| They actually showed me the buildings where, you know, CNN and MSNBC. | ||
| They said, hey, do you want to go see where Anderson and Wolf go to get their drinks? | ||
| Who are long gone, by the way. | ||
| Don Lemon, where they go out to drink. | ||
| I said, no, no, no. | ||
| I don't want to hang out in Lviv, right? | ||
| I saw it to see it, right? | ||
| I get that you guys are having a good time here. | ||
| That's not what I'm here to see. | ||
| I want to go as close as I can go and get back in Seraptish's time and Expedition's time. | ||
| And so we were able to do that, but they have a huge sense there, and at least with the activists that we met with, Steve, and the people that we talked to, They were all about, how do we get this stuff to the front? | ||
| How do we get things downrange? | ||
| What can we do? | ||
| If I have to hop in a car myself, I'll hop in a car myself and drive all the way to Dinepro, or Zaporizhia, or any of these locations to get down. | ||
| So there is a huge amount of motivation there. | ||
| But, even in those situations, you're also hearing stories about them having, because they said, look, the first month, it was the Wild Wild West. | ||
| You had everybody coming in and out. | ||
| Then the second month, you had the war tourists, you had people that were coming in, they didn't know what they were doing, but they said, at this point, by this point, all of the day trippers, they're out. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| All those folks have gone. | ||
| Now it's the people who can actually get guns where they need to go, get downrange when it needs to happen, the people who are actually capable. | ||
| But the problem is, Is that they're getting guns across, and then the guy was telling me a story about... But it's an area of anarchy. | ||
| So the human trafficking... It's all over the place. | ||
| The child trafficking, the female trafficking, and the gun running in and out. | ||
| Those are not Boy Scouts that are doing this. | ||
| Well, let me tell you a story about the gun riot. | ||
| These are full-on... You got Ukrainian gangs and gangsters, Russian gangs and gangsters, and then all that stuff in Eastern Europe. | ||
| I mean, this is like... | ||
| so the one guy who was in the world's polish air fifties he said i got this airfare fifties are coming across uh... but then uh... he said this this group in kiev group is that the ukrainian american where they said there are ukrainians they said we want air fifties to be able to defend our apartment building in keys and i said look at it said if the russians have made it as far as your apartment but here in the summer little bigger than air fifteen If you've got Russian tanks, the T-72 is coming down. | ||
| And they said, well, we just, you know, we just need these across. | ||
| And the guy said, yeah, I don't know if I'm going to give it to you. | ||
| And they said, all right, all right, fine. | ||
| Because he didn't think they would be actually, they were actually going to use them for this. | ||
| And then they said, well, look, well, we need we need about we need some humanitarian aid, though, because we've got a little organization set up for for the defense of our neighborhood. | ||
| So we need can you give us a check? | ||
| Can you give us a check? | ||
| And he said, well, how much of a check? | ||
| We think about need about about one hundred thousand hryvnia. | ||
| Now, the hryvnia is the Ukrainian currency. | ||
| And he said, 100,000 hryvnia. | ||
| I was going to give them five AR-15s. | ||
| An AR-15 is about 20,000 hryvnia. | ||
| That's the going price in Ukraine right now for an AR-15. | ||
| And the guy said, oh yeah, I've always wanted to own an AR-15. | ||
| I always wanted to have one. | ||
| But then the minute that dropped, then they're asking for money. | ||
| And he said, wait, I'm not just going to give you money. | ||
| He realized what was going on. | ||
| They were selling them. | ||
| They had a buyer. | ||
| They've already taken the money, spent the money. | ||
| Now, when you say that you can't supply the guns, he's realizing, wait a minute, I'm in the hole 100,000 hryvnia to the Ukrainian mafia. | ||
| I got a little bit of a problem. | ||
| When you went down to the front, do people understand that there's a way to escalate this but there's also a way to de-escalate this and to get to some sort of resolution of this? | ||
| Are they so dug in now? | ||
| With the vitriol that comes from losing people and having your country ravaged, they're in for the fight. | ||
| Rationality and diplomacy and all that. | ||
| So it depends on who you're talking to, right? | ||
| For the folks that are living there in Nikolaev, it's a gritty, hardscrabble existence right now. | ||
| You don't have food coming in. | ||
| You're not going to work on a regular basis. | ||
| You're just trying to get by. | ||
| You're trying to eke out your existence. | ||
| And when you say that, do they have running water? | ||
| Do they have electricity? | ||
| They have some running water. | ||
| They have intermittent electricity. | ||
| We saw people when there was a strike the other day at one of the shipyards. | ||
| And so guys would come in, and usually when there's a strike, the first thing you do is, once the situation stabilizes, you run in because then you can loot the place. | ||
| So then you see if there's anything good, you can take that off, you can sell that. | ||
| So there's black markets all over the place, there's courtyard markets going on, you know, basically barter system is now in effect, there's swaps going on. | ||
| And so for those people, they just wanted to stop. | ||
| They just want this to be done. | ||
| They don't want this to be going. | ||
| They've got the families there, Steve. | ||
| They've got the families. | ||
| They've got kids. | ||
| They're just trying to live their lives. | ||
| But when it comes to the side of the military and the people who are supporting it, they're not talking about negotiations or diplomacy. | ||
| They're not listening to Kissinger's speech at Davos. | ||
| I'm going to get to that in a second, but here's the point. | ||
| Right now, that attitude does not exist. | ||
| Unless you have the substantial financial and military backing of the United States. | ||
| Forget Europe, you've got to have the United States. | ||
| We just found out yesterday, or Thursday I think it was, or this week, that we're at offensive cyber war with them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're already put 50, we're giving them the missiles that can hit 50 miles into Russia. | ||
| Now they're promising they're not going to launch them in Russia, right, but we're giving it to them. | ||
| Do they understand that this all comes because the U.S. | ||
| is essentially underwriting this at this point? | ||
| Well, it's interesting, right, because, you know, we had a lot of people telling us that, you know, this is the good side, you know, it's good guys versus bad guys, freedom versus tyranny, we're here to defend our way of life, defend our homes, and of course, there's honor in defending your home, no question. | ||
| There's also this sense of the U.S. | ||
| doesn't understand or the American people just don't understand what it is that we're doing or why we're fighting this. | ||
| And so, you know, that we need to be educated as to understand why it's so important to have this fight. | ||
| And look... And what's the point of when they say that? | ||
| You know, my heart goes out to the people. | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| But when they say the American people have to be educated, you know, Jonathan Swan's great interview at Davos with Zelensky. | ||
| Zelensky came back when Jonathan asked that question. | ||
| He says, well, Americans got to start reading the war memoirs of the memoirs of World War II. | ||
| Well, Zelensky, the actor, I've read, I've forgotten more about World War II than he'll ever know. | ||
| I've read the memoirs. | ||
| It doesn't support your point. | ||
| OK, what do they think? | ||
| What do they want us to learn? | ||
| What do they want us? | ||
| What's the reveal to us? | ||
| That's so important that it would make it worth continuing this conflict instead of getting to the negotiating table and making a deal. | ||
| Look, at the end of the day, you've got fighting. | ||
| You've got people that are in starvation conditions in some of these areas. | ||
| There are places that are deteriorated even worse. | ||
| Wouldn't that make my argument that you want to get to the table and de-escalate this thing? | ||
| I've said from the start, there's escalators and de-escalators. | ||
| I didn't meet a lot of de-escalators when I was in Ukraine. | ||
| Because they're not going to de-escalate. | ||
| If you're backing him up in offensive cyber war, if you're giving him, after he writes an editorial in the New York Times, this is Biden, writes an editorial in the New York Times, says, I can't give him the short-range missiles, the mid-range missiles that go 50 miles in Russia, and then he flips 12 hours later. | ||
| If you continue to give them, and Lindsey Graham and these guys walk around about another aid package, continue to give them more cash, if you're going to underwrite, I'm not questioning their courage and their valor. | ||
| Those brothers have been fighting for 5,000 years, and if you underwrite it, they're going to fight for 5,000 years in the future. | ||
| Right, because you've got the Cossacks, you've got the Eurasian Steppe out there. | ||
| This is vendettas that go back centuries from time immemorial, old school. | ||
| And I've always wanted to go to Odessa. | ||
| I've never been to the Black Sea before. | ||
| I was, you know, I was in the Navy. | ||
| I was a PACOM guy. | ||
| But I've always wanted to see Odessa. | ||
| I've always wanted to get to the Black Sea. | ||
| We get there, and I said, you know, one thing that my family does as a tradition is that we always get, when we go to some, you know, foreign beach or something, we get some of the sand, right? | ||
| So we go down to get some of the sand. | ||
| I'm collecting it in this bottle I had, like a water bottle that I had with me. | ||
| But then I saw a sign. | ||
| And they said, you can't go down to the beach. | ||
| You can't go down to the water. | ||
| And I'm looking at it. | ||
| And I took a picture of it. | ||
| I said, Tanya, can you translate this? | ||
| She says, it says, warning mines. | ||
| They've landmined the beaches of Odessa. | ||
| So if you're at the point where you're landmining the beaches, that's a beach resort town. | ||
| That's like putting landmines up on the Jersey Shore or Cancun or something, right? | ||
| In terms of the Black Sea. | ||
| Daytona Beach. | ||
| Daytona Beach, yeah. | ||
| Is that really the situation that you want for your people and that you want for the families? | ||
| They're dug in. | ||
| I'm not questioning their value. | ||
| They're going to fight it out. | ||
| If you underwrite it, they'll be fighting there forever. | ||
| And the Russians, is it your belief? | ||
| That the Russian mindset militarily and the guys around Putin are going to back, because they got every article this week is saying, hey, all of a sudden we think that he's not leaving. | ||
| Is your belief he's he's he's going to continue to come? | ||
| He's not backing off at all. | ||
| They're not backing down at all. | ||
| And we've already seen Western journalists are starting to flee from parts of the east. | ||
| When you're looking at Donbass and looking at Kharkiv and you're looking at the rest, they just struck. | ||
| The railroad outside of Lviv, right in the Carpathian Mountains, where the tunnel was, that they were putting the NATO weapons through. | ||
| That's a message. | ||
| That's a shot directly across the bow to the West to say, alright, you guys have been playing this little game of sending your weapons across, sending this stuff across, we know where the trains are, we know where the railroads are, we know where your supplies are, and if you want us to take this to the next level, we can, and we shall. | ||
| Okay, we're going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We have Ben Harnwell, our international head. | ||
| He's in Rome. | ||
| Jack Posobiec is just back from the Ukraine. | ||
| Get on me. | ||
| I call it the Ukraine of Kiev. | ||
| It's Ukraine. | ||
| They don't like that anymore. | ||
| They don't like THE Ukraine. | ||
| That's the borderlands. | ||
| Or the bloodlands. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| Jack Posobiec is back. | ||
| We're going to pivot. | ||
| We're going to talk about We're going to wrap up on this. | ||
| I got here Davos and Geneva. | ||
| Big events there last week. | ||
| Jack was on the tip of the spear. | ||
| Then we're going to pivot to China. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
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| Okay, welcome back to The Worm. | ||
| I want to go to Rome and our own Ben Harnwell before we talk to Jack about his Davos and Geneva part of his journey. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, any concluding thoughts from you, sir? | ||
| Yeah, thanks. | ||
| I just want to respond to something that you and Jack were saying just before the break. | ||
| Speaking as a non-American based in continental Europe, I want to supplement what Jack was saying about his direct experience in Ukraine. | ||
| It's not that people are looking at American taxpayers and thinking, you know, getting the pound signs running behind their eyes and thinking, Brilliant. | ||
| America, the American taxpayers, they're a cash cow when it comes to fighting for Ukraine. | ||
| It's not that people are thinking that. | ||
| You're not even an afterthought in this. | ||
| And that's not particularly Ukrainian's fault. | ||
| Not when, if you think about it, Joe Biden himself defined his policy as nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine. | ||
| So here it is. | ||
| It's basically the Ukrainians themselves get to decide how much U.S. | ||
| taxpayers' money will be committed to the fighting of their defense. | ||
| And that is the signal coming from the United States. | ||
| If you want to change that, obviously November's going to be a great opportunity, probably the only opportunity to do something to rein that in until 2024. | ||
| Hang on, before you go, I want to say, are the European people going to rein in the European? | ||
| Because right now the Americans use that as a front. | ||
| Oh, it's NATO's coming together and we're partners with the EU and France. | ||
| Are the European people going to essentially rise up and say, we're not going to underwrite this anymore? | ||
| We've got runaway inflation. | ||
| We now understand the impact of this war continuing on. | ||
| When are you going to start to see some blowback from the European people so that the elites in Davos and Brussels and NATO start to get what's really a priority for the people and it's not a border conflict in eastern Russian-speaking Ukraine? | ||
| Christmas, five months ago, a bottle of milk cost 95 cents. | ||
| I'm now paying 1 euro 15. | ||
| And that is way more than the official 9% inflation that they're saying that we have in the European Union. | ||
| And that's just an illustration of what's going on here in continental New York. | ||
| I tell you when people are going to get up and go against the prevailing torrents of political correctness and say absolutely not. | ||
| In which way they can no longer pay for tomorrow's meal. At the moment perhaps you can, there's no doubt for the next few days, next week or so, where the money's going to come from to put food on your family's table. But as this inflation tsunami starts to pick up speed, people are just going to say, no look I saw an interesting statistic, right? | ||
| In the United States, the United States of America, the world's richest, most powerful country that ever existed in the history of man, right? | ||
| One in six adults now rely on charitable food, on food banks. | ||
| One in six. | ||
| And this is a direct consequence of the decisions our government are making because they refuse to consider the second, third, fourth factor after an act. | ||
| This is when people are going to start, you know, it's what the newspapers have been saying for a month or so now, that come this winter, people will be deciding whether they're going to put their heating on or whether they're going to buy food for that day. | ||
| That is when the fight back will start. | ||
| And it won't be quickly. | ||
| I'll tell you where I think we are, Stephen. | ||
| I'll close with this. | ||
| We're on the beach in Thailand in 2004. | ||
| Remember that boxing day? | ||
| That was the day of the famous tsunami that killed hundreds of thousands of people. | ||
| We're standing on the beach and we're looking at the sea receding and receding and receding. | ||
| And we're thinking, hmm, that's strange. | ||
| I wonder what it might mean. | ||
| That's where you think we are today? | ||
| That's where we are today. | ||
| By the way, that's not me, that's just my metaphor. | ||
| A few days ago, Jamie Dimon said something, obviously he's going to pick his words a little more sensitively than me, because what he says can move markets, but he said there's a hurricane coming. | ||
| Yes, a gathering. | ||
| What he doesn't understand, it's a hurricane coming for the people in the Hamptons and the Upper East Side. | ||
| There's already a hurricane here for working class people. | ||
| Remember, Bloomberg had this story we talked about the other day of people that make $250,000 or more in the United States, the top 3% or 4% of income earners. | ||
| 25% of those live paycheck to paycheck. | ||
| Paycheck to paycheck right now. | ||
| Ben Harnwell, how do people get to you? | ||
| You're up all weekend. | ||
| Commemoration of Tiananmen Square. | ||
| How do people get to you? | ||
| Hi Steve. | ||
| If you go to the app or getter.com on your internet browser, just put my name in the search box. | ||
| It's my surname. | ||
| That's my handle. | ||
| Arnwell. | ||
| That's the photo there that you'll find. | ||
| That's how you'll know it's my account. | ||
| I'm not one of the fake, impossible accounts that there are a number of pretending to be me. | ||
| The real one is me with the V mark there. | ||
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| Ben, how many followers on Getter are you up to? | ||
| It's changed your life. | ||
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| We're going to take a 90-second break. | ||
| Jack Passover, we're going to talk about his trip to Davos, Geneva, everything that happened last week, and how that ties in with the geopolitics 101. | ||
| How does it tie in with this coming war, the kinetic war over Taiwan? | ||
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