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Episode 1,895 – The Bodies Of Others – The New Authoritarians; Stopping The IHR Amendments In GenevaEpisode 1,895 – The Bodies Of Others – The New Authoritarians; Stopping The IHR Amendments In Geneva
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naomi wolf
12:10
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peter r breggin
05:02
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steve bannon
15:44
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james roguski
03:22
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oscar blue ramirez
01:45
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todd bensman
01:35
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anthony fauci
00:03
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
You don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
unidentified
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, signal not noise.
And remember, they're always giving you tell.
So real quickly, I just want to make sure everybody understands, and we're going to get these in a group, because I haven't done it right yet, but I'm going to do it.
Four articles.
On Friday, the Washington Post puts out an article about CISA, about the DHS department that oversees all the cyber and things.
And the story is, machines were not hacked in the 2020, nothing to worry.
And they go, what?
And you drill down to the fifth paragraph, and they finally admit that the machines can be hacked.
We have a guest, that the machines can be hacked, okay?
Number one.
Number two, Cleta Mitchell, the great Cleta Mitchell, New York Times has a massive profile.
She thinks it's going to be a hit piece.
I think it's a paid advertisement on her work going around the country.
Number three, CNN out of nowhere, They drop a thing today that says, oh, if we go back to hand counting paper ballots like the French do and they get a fair count at 10 o'clock at night, that's horse and buggy.
Can't be done.
Impossible.
CNN, huge article.
Of course, the Associated Press breaks yesterday that, wait for it, Raffensperger definitely got above the 50 percent in Georgia because of Democratic votes.
Stacey Abrams putting it together.
OK, then additionally, our own Dr. Candace Taylor.
Little ole Candace Taylor.
John Oliver goes off on her on his show the other night.
Just goes ripping on Candace Taylor.
Just because I think she won't concede.
Candace keep fighting us.
All kind of stink down there in Georgia.
We're going to get to the bottom of a lot of things going on in Georgia.
Particularly this AP story that says the Democrats kept Raffensperger From a runoff of which he would have lost.
So we'll get to all that but five major articles all in different papers and all with buried leads about guess what?
Making sure that we get a free and fair count this November because they're going to roll hard.
They know all on the policy side.
They're getting rolled up, but they're going to come back in the election side.
We're going to get into okay.
I want to go to Tapachula.
Mexico and Oscar Blue Ramirez.
And Oscar, everybody, my phone's blowing up because everybody wants you to be safe.
Very, very dangerous down there.
It's dangerous for the migrants.
It's most dangerous for the poor citizens of Tapachula.
Once again, I just want you to walk through how this is being weaponized.
What the leaders of the caravan are telling Mexican officials.
If they don't do the following, what's going to happen, sir?
oscar blue ramirez
Well, Mr. Van, it is a protection claim.
That is what they're using for them to justify themselves, that they can go to a judicial court in Mexico, and by that they have the right to be appointed into a court date, which means they cannot be stopped on the state of Chiapas, which means they are jumping the immigration law by them to be waiting for a humanitarian visa and a visa transit.
They do not want to wait the process, Mr. Bannon.
The process for the humanitarian visa, the visa transit, takes around two to three months.
And what the migrants are saying is that they want the visa transit as soon as they arrive because they don't want, they don't have funds, they don't have money to spend.
But it's kind of ironical because a lot of them, they're arriving into the north borders of Mexico When traffickers are charging right here $5,000 to get out of the state of Chiapas, and ultimately they're also charging $8,000 to get all the way to the north border.
So it is ironical what they're saying, but ultimately the number one justification is this protection claim, which they are using.
And then now more than 7,000, they have appointed themselves on a webpage, Mr. Bannon, that has been created which they have all the database of all the migrants.
It is a webpage, which is a website, which people are signing up from Central America, South America, Europe, and Africa.
So now they're doing their process on this webpage.
So when they arrive, they're already on a waiting list to get this protection list and to ultimately walk to the North border, sir.
steve bannon
This is all driven by the cartel.
They're the ones making the money here.
Human trafficking is more profitable for them than drug trafficking.
Oscar, how do people get you on social media?
How do they follow your reporting, sir?
oscar blue ramirez
Thank you so much, sir.
Getter, Oscar Blue.
Also YouTube, Oscar Blue.
Twitter, Oscar Blue.
OscarBlueRamirez.com and RealAmericasVoiceNews.com, sir.
Thank you so much, sir.
steve bannon
Thank you, Oscar.
Let's go back to Todd Bensman.
Todd, I just want you to reiterate to the audience of the boardroom.
Title 42 is not salvation here.
That's all misdirection playing in federal courts.
It's irrelevant.
They're rolling through Title 42, and Greyhound and American Airlines are their partners, are the partners of the illegitimate Biden regime and the cartels.
Todd Bensman.
todd bensman
That's right.
The caravan that Oscar is talking about down there, I think it's reasonable to presume that that is forming because of the exemptions that the Biden administration has made in Title 42 right now.
All extracontinental migrants, anybody who is not from northern Central America or Mexico, is being allowed right in, on parole, into the country, and then they're being put on buses, Greyhound buses, chartered buses, by the thousands.
I watch this happen seven days a week, every day, for hours and hours.
I watched six buses fill up just two days ago down there.
There's the Greyhound bus.
And also, American Airlines is tripling its capacity to haul these paroled-in border crossers to 15 different states in the country, at least.
All over the country, they're being brought in.
And so, those caravanners down there in Tapachula are very well aware.
I watched these guys all take selfies and photos of themselves with these buses, and they're sending them back down the trail.
steve bannon
Look, the most dangerous journey you can take is for a woman or a young child from Tapachula all the way up through with those cartels and across the border.
This is human trafficking like never been seen before.
Todd, how do people get to you?
We'll have you back on the show this evening.
We've spent more time to do this.
How do people get to you in the interim?
Where do they get your reporting?
todd bensman
The best way is follow me on Getter, tbensman at Getter.
I'm also on Twitter.
My piece about my trip that I just came back from that has all of the description will be up at Center for Immigration Studies, cis.org, probably later today.
steve bannon
We're going to get on the Greyhound.
I know the audience is already blowing me up.
We're going to get on the Greyhound American Airlines situation.
What I want to do is lay the case out today, right, of what's happening at Tapachula.
This is dangerous, and what it's most dangerous for is the people coming up.
unidentified
Okay?
steve bannon
This is, once again, the cartels.
This is their highest margin, their highest profit business.
Much more profitable than gun running.
Much more profitable than drugs.
Human trafficking.
And now you got a system that's making money off it, right?
And it's very well thought through.
Don't think this stuff's not planned, okay?
They're no coincidence.
This stuff does not all come together because of some self-organizing mechanism.
And forget the court in the... Forget the federal court in Louisiana.
That's a total misdirection play.
Title 42 is eventually... There's so many exemptions.
It's happening now.
Todd Bensman, thank you very much for coming on.
I look forward to getting back to you.
Great reporting.
The video's gonna all be up today.
The video's actually shocking.
But we have wins.
We have incredible wins.
And I've been waiting for this day for a long time.
The release of the book, you and DC, the big thing at the Willard, people coming together.
We have made, if you look at all the fights we got, on election fraud, on the Wuhan lab, on everything.
The invasion of the southern border, stopping the expansion, the escalation of this thing in Ukraine, all of it.
The thing I'm most proud of is what this little apparatus has done to give a voice to people to get to the discussions about the mask, to have moms get involved in the schools, and particularly in the vaccinations.
I knew zero about vaccination when this started.
All I knew is that the anti-vax crowd were a bunch of wingnuts, right?
They were a bunch of dangerous kooks, and Bobby Kennedy, these guys are all a bunch of dangerous kooks.
And today is going to be the release of the book, The Body of Others, right?
It's in stores today?
People can go in the stores and get it?
naomi wolf
It is in stores.
steve bannon
And everybody on Amazon that ordered it will get their copies today?
naomi wolf
No, Amazon has put a limit of four books per customer for some mysterious reason.
steve bannon
I'm just so shocked.
unidentified
You know why?
steve bannon
Because they don't want people buying 50 and having a party and handing them out and having their neighborhood.
unidentified
That's right.
steve bannon
They've put a four-book limit.
naomi wolf
And this is the day after Twitter sent me a note that I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever be allowed back on Twitter.
steve bannon
What is this?
naomi wolf
The day before my book comes out.
steve bannon
It's random, right?
Yeah, totally.
There's no coincidence.
What did they say?
What was it on Twitter that you... By the way, some people don't know, Naomi Wolf's my guest for the podcast and radio audience.
She's here.
in studio, which we do very, very rarely given that Capitol Hill's in lockdown. Also, the worms looked better, right? And we got our staff out everywhere trying to do things.
Is there anything that you think that you put up besides the book in the last couple of days that would have you permanently banned from Twitter?
naomi wolf
Yeah, and it's like no hope of ever, like forget ever.
steve bannon
Oh no, you're death penalty.
You're like War Room or Steve Bannon.
We're done.
naomi wolf
We're done.
Well, yes.
Well, first of all, The Bodies of Others does follow the money and it shows readers how entities like Amazon profit from suppressing our liberties and suppressing the human ability to gather and to connect with each other, mom and pop shops, sole proprietor businesses.
tracks how the lockdown and the policies around them really crushed the middle class, but also diverted money and power to tech companies.
So one of the tech companies is Amazon.
So they're maybe not going to love it, that now that they know what's in the book, now that people will be able to follow this money and see how this has been not a public health crisis so much as the subtitle says, a war against human beings in the interests of big tech, the CCP, and the World Economic Forum.
But there is something else that happened.
And I really, you know, I'm sitting at ground zero of this incredible miracle that is the War Room Posse because they've accomplished something, as you've said, truly historic.
The war room volunteers, these 3,000 RNs, doctors, biostatisticians, medical fraud investigators, clinicians, they, as you know, have been going through the 55,000 Pfizer documents that were not to be released for 75 years, but were forced to be released under court order.
And they've found many headlines.
But what happened yesterday was that I took the reports they'd done on reproduction, childbirth, and lactation, which shows that the vaccine essentially harms the process of reproduction in multiple ways.
And I added the report they did on lactation that shows that babies who are nursing are getting sick from vaccinated mothers, and at least one has died.
And I showed, I posted and integrated their report that showed that of 270 women who got pregnant in the trials, 230 plus were disappeared.
Their records vanished from sight in the trials, but that of the 36 or so, 28 of their babies died.
28 of 36 women's babies died in the Pfizer trials.
And then an Israeli journalist named Etana Hecht added to our analysis three studies that show that there is a baby die-off.
And we've talked about this a little bit, but this substat puts it all together in a terrifying way.
A baby die-off in Scotland, in Canada, and in Israel.
In Scotland, twice the number of babies died.
In Ontario, Canada, 86 babies died.
the average is five or six and in Israel, deaths to vaccinated mothers are up 34%.
So that's there 100,000 people saw it in 24 hours. And I don't know if that's the reason I'm suddenly persona non grata, but it's definitely it should be making news. It's, it's the biggest news there is.
steve bannon
Did that come up before they took you off?
That came up before they took you off.
That's why they took you down.
There's no doubt.
Permanently.
naomi wolf
Who knows?
unidentified
There's so many reasons.
steve bannon
No heads up.
We're going to get to the book when we come back.
We've got a lot to get through today.
But real quickly, we've got about a minute.
This massive victory of this audience also and others on the World Health Regulations.
What's the latest on that?
naomi wolf
Yeah, it's my understanding that 12 of the 13 US amendments have been withdrawn because of opposition.
But also credit to African nations, you know, they have not had exactly they know what slavery is, you know, and they know what it means to be colonized.
And they were like, no, slow down, we're not going to hand over our sovereignty.
So it's diplomatic speak, but they said, we want to not fast track this, we want to slow walk this, meaning not right now.
unidentified
Yes.
naomi wolf
Meaning never.
steve bannon
We've got to be at the ramparts.
But this thing, for right now, is dead.
And it's the reason that other nations, when they were alerted to the fact, otherwise this thing was just going to glide through.
naomi wolf
Sail through.
And so, you're right, there are huge victories.
But they just keep coming over the top.
These evildoers, they just don't stop.
steve bannon
Don't be sad.
naomi wolf
OK, I'm happy.
I'm happy we're winning.
steve bannon
OK, we're going to take a short commercial break.
When we get back, we've got the book.
We've got Bregan.
We have James Rogalski.
We've got a special prize, a special surprise.
For Memorial Day week, I think you guys are gonna love.
Short break.
unidentified
Back in the War Room in a moment.
War Room.
Pandemic.
With Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon, and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, welcome back to the War Room.
We've got a lot to get through.
We're going to get through it all.
By the way, I finally got my hard copy, The Bodies of Others.
Amazing cover.
Some incredible poll quotes back here.
Tucker Carlson, Dr. Paul Alexander, Eric Metaxas.
But I have to say, the money quotes Stephen K. Bannon.
I mean, come on.
That's going to sell some books, people terms.
This is amazing.
The bodies of others, the new authoritarians, COVID-19, and the war against the human.
That's a pretty bold subtitle, ma'am.
What do you mean by that?
naomi wolf
And yet not bold enough.
I mean, this book, you know, predicted exactly where we are now.
It goes into detail about the role of the World Economic Forum.
And that was before the World Economic Forum said, let's just take all your sovereignty forever.
And it also I wrote this subtitle before looking at the Pfizer documents that you have to conclude over a year of harms over a year of damage targeting You know, the fetus, the amniotic sac, lactation, survival, neurological disorders.
I mean, this is a war against humanity, and I don't want to believe it.
I don't want to reach that conclusion.
You just showed images of the southern border where thousands of people are flowing in.
I mean, we've stayed ahead by being willing to look at the ugliest thing that is before us, and we've managed to counter each time.
By being among the first to say, Oh, my God, this looks like an invasion, or Oh, my God, this looks like harms against the human species.
So having looked at, you know, all the evidence that I offer readers here, you know, I've concluded, and the the Pfizer documents and the invasion are just some more examples.
World Economic Forum is another example that there is a war against humanity waged by these oligarchs and by the Chinese Communist Party and by the World Economic Forum. They want to keep us suppressed, autistic, crippled. They want to keep us subjugated. They want to take all our stuff.
There was a massive transfer of assets during the lockdown and they want to mask our children so that our children will not have good communication skills and be American Essentially, they want to suppress American culture.
They want to invade our sovereignty.
They want to dilute our sovereignty.
You know, how much how much more do you want?
The evidence is in.
So, you know, we've never seen this before.
But history shows that people who realize, oh, it's 1933.
I've never seen this before, but I better get out of here.
Those are the ones who survive or fight back.
steve bannon
Talk about your journey in writing the book.
I remember the first time we had you on, I think it was in March of 2021.
The audience goes, oh my God, no, she worked for Hillary Clinton and she's a super liberal.
She's super progressive.
She's on MSNBC.
And then, because many of these new authoritarians are people that you've known your entire life.
So that whole journey, when you sit here and say, hey, they're doing this, this, and this, I know many of the people that you were colleagues of, and they may still be personal friends, They fall into the new authoritarians.
naomi wolf
Are you saying my friends are tyrants?
steve bannon
What's scary to me is to sit here on MSNBC and see the embrace of the National Security State, to see the CIA guys, to see the New York Times and the MSNBC rubbing up and hugging on the CIA.
The worst aspects, the guys that got us and destroyed us in Vietnam, the same things, the lies in the Iraq War.
You see the same characters up here.
You see the Republicans used to tell those lies.
You know, Wallace, all of them are up there every day.
And you're sitting there going, this is like, dude, the looking glass.
naomi wolf
It's upside down world.
Yeah, we used to be the ones, the liberals, the left used to be the ones protesting the CIA and fighting for free speech and bodily autonomy.
Now it's right upside down.
But you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't see this as a partisan thing because if you look globally, It's a global script.
And Canada is run by a liberal.
You know, Scott Morrison was a conservative.
Boris Johnson's a conservative.
It's really transnational.
And we saw that with the World Economic Forum power grab.
But you are right.
I mean, my side, the left, you know, unfortunately, we are the head of the criminal enterprise here right now.
steve bannon
How did that happen?
naomi wolf
I'll tell you.
But just I just want to say one thing, which is I do go into detail in a couple of chapters in the book about what it's like to be basically in the, you know, left wing media elite and how there's a flaw in reasoning among us that If we're doing it, it can't be bad, right?
And it's profound.
Like, yeah, you know, but if the CIA is directed by one of our guys, they can't do anything wrong.
But if it's us, you know, injecting children, it can't be wrong because we're good people.
And the other thing that I take readers into is the kind of drawing rooms and cocktail parties and dinner parties of what is now kind of a transnational network of people who really know each other and hang out together, whether they're from Germany or from Greece or from, you know, African nations or Pakistan.
They have more allegiance to one another and other elites and elite transnational institutions than to the men and women of their own country.
So fellow Americans are theoretical, fellow Britons are theoretical, and they never see the consequences of their actions.
And the other discourse, and I was at some Ivy League events over the weekend, you see this in full force, is that, you know, we're smarter than everyone else.
And so we have to decide for them, for their sake, for their own good.
And so you do get this kind of global elite technocracy who never see the harm that they're doing to others and their decisions tend to make billions for them and their friends and their portfolios, but they justify it by, we have to save these deplorables or these working class losers or these middle class know-nothings from themselves.
I'm not kidding!
steve bannon
No, no, that's right.
By the way, I'm just waiting for the page one New York Review of Books review of The New York Times.
The probability of The New York Times reviews this book is zero?
naomi wolf
Zero.
Less than zero.
steve bannon
Wow, wow.
Okay, no, this is why The Bodies of Others, it's out today.
You can get it in a bookstore.
In Amazon, you can only get it... When Amazon's limiting the number of copies, I've never heard of that.
unidentified
Never heard of it.
steve bannon
Ever, ever.
But they know this book's dangerous.
naomi wolf
And it's already a bestseller in a couple of categories.
unidentified
Who limits sales of something that's selling, right?
naomi wolf
That is upside down world.
steve bannon
Upside down world.
Let's bring Dr. Peter Bregan for a second.
Dr. Bregan, get us up to date.
Your best understanding of the, because you were very concerned about the IRH, the International Health Regulations, the amendments.
It looks like they've been at least tabled.
Part of the 13 may be plugged in.
Walk us through what your assessment is.
peter r breggin
Well, I think they're really just being held in reserve because they haven't been rejected.
They haven't been mentioned.
They took the actual whole skeleton of the original amendments with the title and all of the 47 nations and they removed all the parts from it except one sort of piece of one of the amendments which was not critical to the Power takeover.
So all that's just sitting there.
They could plop it in at any next meeting and claim that everybody's had a chance to look at it because it was sent out this round to the nations.
So I think it's just sitting there like like a hatchet ready to fall.
And the other thing is that the treaties we're not talking about the treaties.
And that's where Tedros has specifically said he wants to become the central organizing authority of global health.
That's his language.
The central organizing authority of global health by getting nations to make treaties.
And they're not actually calling them treaties.
So that could get by the Senate without us looking at it.
They call them declarations.
They call them agreements.
They're avoiding In their textual discussions using the word treaties.
So look forward to some contracts, agreements, declarations that are actually treaties unlike the regulations coming through.
I think that's going to be the next big step.
But by the way, I found Naomi Wolf's discussion amazing.
steve bannon
Yeah, hang on for one second.
I want to get a further drill down that.
Let me bring in James Rogowski.
You've been on this from day one.
You're the one that alerted the world to this.
Walk us through your understanding of where we stand in Geneva.
james roguski
Couldn't be happier.
Geneva is over.
We're already on to the next thing, the pandemic treaties.
As Dr. Reagan said, everybody can go to StopTheWHO.com.
Don't you dare that info, which is what I see underneath there is old news.
That's what we did before.
Complete and total victory with a cherry on top of it.
The Biden proposed.
No, in all seriousness, it my prayers were answered.
And then there was a bonus.
The documents that the Biden administration proposed were completely kicked to the curb.
You know, they were left at the altar.
You know, they were stood up, you know, to go from, you know, it.
They just, absolute, complete, total destruction of what they had wanted.
A new document was presented on Tuesday.
It stirred a whole lot of discussion all week long.
It was like binge-watching a soap opera.
I was up all night, you know, binge-watching the As the Poop.
And on Friday morning, they put in changes to that document.
And what it actually did is it gave additional sovereignty, additional control, took it away from the who, and gave it to the nations.
That's about something called reservation.
So any future amendment, now the nations can say, sort of like a line item veto, not exactly that.
They can look at any future, they can reject it, or they can reinterpret it as they want.
steve bannon
Hang on, James.
They're going to reconvene in the fall, correct?
Am I right that they've left it open that they're going to reconvene?
Isn't the 13th part of it a part of a placeholder?
Because you can't trust these guys, remember?
These are the most untrustworthy people on earth, and they're going to try to get their stuff in there.
So is there any open that they could come back and do that?
james roguski
Let's make sure we got the organizations correct.
There is a working group that I believe the smaller nations demanded so that this be made public.
They're going to be meeting in November to take any suggestions from all of the nations But what they'll do is they'll coalesce these agreements in a more public way.
They'll present them in January to be considered next May.
So as far as amendments go, we've not only dodged that bullet, we stopped it like Superman.
No, we're not going to do it.
steve bannon
Hang on for one second.
We're going to take a commercial break.
We've got James Rogowsky, Dr. Peter Bragan, Naomi Wolf in the house with her new book, The Bodies of Others.
The New Authoritarians, COVID-19 and the war against the human.
unidentified
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War Room Pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
You know, over Memorial Day weekend we did the specials.
We did Arlington National Cemetery yesterday and the Tomb of the Unknown.
We've got a very special event coming up in the next 30 minutes here along the same lines.
I actually got a chance to watch the film about Merrill's Marauders and the Burma campaign.
I was reminded immediately of James Rogowsky.
He reminds me of General Merrill in the Pathfinders in Burma because he's always out ahead of the infantry.
James, you did an incredible job here alerting the world.
I gotta remember, the person that showed to me, the engine room of the war room showed to me for the first four or five days and said, this guy's a wing nut.
unidentified
This can't, it's typical Bennett, this can't possibly be true.
steve bannon
Naomi's heard that a few times.
Can't possibly be true.
Turns out it was.
James, your new campaign, I want to make sure everybody goes to the website.
What is it?
james roguski
How did they get there?
StoptheWHO.com.
And the wingnut actually got a chance to talk to Naomi back on April 10th in the press section.
I don't know if you remember Naomi, but I was preaching this gospel back on April 10th.
And so what's happened now is that the script has shifted and the WHO is now pushing negotiations.
They have an intergovernmental negotiating body.
That they are, they will be taking public comment in the middle of June.
So we're going to just bludgeon the daylights out of them.
The analogy would be in the first round.
Good, good, solid punch.
We knocked him down.
But now it's round two.
Now is the time to come on stronger.
Stop the WHO dot com.
Now it's all about their proposed pandemic treaty, which is, you know, they're just trying to take over every aspect of your life and control the world.
You know, no big deal.
But that's what we're dealing with now.
steve bannon
Perfect.
James, thank you very much.
Look forward to having you back on here.
Really appreciate it.
james roguski
Hey, my phone number is still 310-619-3055.
Naomi, let's talk about this going forward.
I'd love to work with you.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
Have your people talk to my people.
unidentified
Thank you.
steve bannon
We're Galsky's only guy who gives his number out here.
Looking for a friend.
Please call.
unidentified
I want to get it on the table.
steve bannon
She did not call security when you came out to her behind the stage at the stop.
That was the one in L.A.
that drew like 15,000, 20,000 people.
naomi wolf
Yeah, it was a big deal.
steve bannon
That was a big deal.
naomi wolf
Well, he was right, as it turns out.
steve bannon
First time they showed me the thing, I said, this can't be true.
Of course, it was true.
naomi wolf
But these are the times we're in, right?
We have to assess quickly.
steve bannon
It also takes guys like Rogowski.
First, it's so unbelievable they're trying to tuck it in here.
There's not open to comment and doing all that.
And you find out that you get Bachmann.
Then all of a sudden you get Rand Paul.
You get all these congressmen.
You get Scott.
You get serious hitters up there.
And you realize it's all true.
naomi wolf
It's all true.
And you've got to understand, these oligarchs hate the nation-state because it's in a robust nation-state with firm borders.
And I'm the daughter of immigrants.
You know, firm borders, you need them if you're going to have a democracy, if you're going to have a republic, and they want to kill off the nation-state, they want to make it meaningless.
steve bannon
This is also, I haven't told you, this is going to be a big, formal investigation come the new Congress.
This is going to be, a lot of people up here are very upset about what they try to pull here.
unidentified
They should be!
Yes, this is not... It's backdoor treason!
steve bannon
Yeah, well they want democracy all the time, except when they don't, right?
Let's bring in Dr. Bregan.
Dr. Bregan, what did you think about, give me your assessment of Naomi Wolf and her statements about the new authoritarians.
peter r breggin
Well, first, I think it's wonderful, but let me say, I think it's a mistake to be emphasizing that we're going to be dealing with pandemic treaties.
They're not going to call them treaties, and they're not about the pandemics.
I want to help people focus on what they're looking at doing, and what they're looking at doing Quoting, just quoting from Tedros is strengthening WHO as the leading and directing authority on global health at the center of the global health architecture.
They are looking to make a global health with the treaties.
It is much more threatening than preparation.
So I just think that's really important because we're going to be getting hit with something much larger Then one more version of preparation.
It's astonishing to listen to Naomi because it's all the conclusions that I've come to.
And I was thinking to myself as she was talking that the one thing she left out is that they have to attack the United States as the one bastion, as the patriotic nation.
And then you just said that too.
So you've come to all the same conclusions I have and Ginger has.
In our book, COVID-19 and the Global Predators in November.
It's amazing.
We come from two very different directions and we land in the same place.
You as an insider on the left and me as researching all of this and Ginger from the viewpoint of COVID-19 and basically a bit more conservative view.
This is what's happening.
There is a world order that Is being coalesced and brought together and strengthened and discussions of pandemics and other things are all the just all the various approaches to demoralizing us.
And I think Naomi did a great job talking about the demoralization of the United States culture and it is actually central to what's going on.
You look at somebody like George Soros and and he's funding You know, stuff on genetic fluidity throughout the world.
It's a destruction of the solidity of sensing and being like a human being and of having courage and being brave.
I just couldn't agree more with everything Naomi's saying.
It's so interesting because we're coming at it from such different directions.
steve bannon
From two different angles.
Dr. Bregan, how did people get to your site?
How did they get to your book?
peter r breggin
Well, the book Global Predators and COVID-19 and the Global Predators, you can get it on our dedicated website, which is wearetheprey.com.
And you can go to our website, which is bregan.com.
I, too, would love to be in touch with Naomi.
I think Ginger is trying to get in touch with Naomi.
naomi wolf
So many new friends!
steve bannon
We've got to do this show more often.
Why does nobody ever say that about me?
unidentified
Naomi will come and say, show me my new host, my new morning wingman.
peter r breggin
Naomi, I read Naomi's earlier book.
Naomi, there's been a huge change in your thinking since your earlier book.
naomi wolf
Thank you, Dr. Brigham.
My thinking is exactly the same.
It's the world that has changed, but thank you.
I appreciate all this.
peter r breggin
No, I mean your assessment of the world.
Your assessment of the world.
As mine has.
naomi wolf
I am not deceived by partisanship.
That is for sure.
I just want to save my country with whoever will join me from anywhere.
So thank you very much.
peter r breggin
I like the way you put that, Naomi.
I actually like the way you put it.
steve bannon
Dr. Bregan, thank you very much for joining us this morning.
I really appreciate it.
We'll be back as we fight on every day on this.
Thank you, sir.
One more thing is that you came on the very first time.
You said that the hill to die on was the vaccine passports and all that.
And you were like Cassandra.
And everyone's like, oh, she's crazy.
It's not going to happen.
And that's all happened in space.
I know a lot of that's in the book.
But between that and seeing what Pfizer Because I don't think we're making a big enough deal that Pfizer actually did not want to release any of this information for 75 years.
And there's a reason for that.
But talk about the merger of Big Pharma and Big Tech as almost kind of one monolith with the government to become the new authoritarians or the platform for the new authoritarians.
naomi wolf
Yeah, so, you know, I wish people would just listen to me the first time because indeed, you know, that was the hill to die on.
And I just want to say like in America, we are marginally or substantially more free right now because of people like you and the war room posse and the people are going to be at the Willard tonight like Dr. Alexander, Dr. McCullough, brave people, firefighters are going to be there, you know, brave people stood up and said no and fought for our liberties and in Canada, they can't leave, you know, in Australia, they're dragged away to quarantine camps in Shanghai, they, you know, they're locked into
their homes.
So I guess I guess what I'm trying to say is fighting for freedom matters and we're You're right, and I should cheer up, because the fight has helped to save democracy and freedom substantially in America, though it's far from over.
steve bannon
Do you think we're making progress?
naomi wolf
Well, when I'm here, yes.
And when I'm alone in the woods, you know, with the squirrels and the bears reading what comes in over social media, I get very alarmed because because that's what they want to do.
they want to separate us like literally, you know, the bodies of others points out that when people are together, whether it's in a restaurant or a pub or a town hall or a church or a synagogue, or hanging out with your friends, you know, or at a potluck, their strength that and they can't be hacked. I mean, it's a very powerful technology, human beings being together and human beings give each other courage. And so they wanted big tech and I'll get to the big tech question in a minute. But big tech absolutely drove those policies, we see how they drove
the policies so that we'd be isolated in our homes and not able to gather not able to check in with one another and say, is anyone sick in your town?
No one's sick in my town.
Or two people are sick in my town.
Did anyone die in your town?
No more than usual.
Or maybe more than usual, right?
That's how humans develop civilization and make decisions.
But they isolated us so our whole vision of reality for two years was mediated through digital platforms and screens.
And they were all telling a single story. And so that's quite terrifying, especially when you add AI, which is able to tell the same story around the world in at a scale that human beings can't even manage, right. And so absolutely big tech Zuckerberg, Bezos, aligned with the Biden administration, our country, and with other administrations around the world, so that there was no daylight between them. And they used pharma, I don't think pharma is even
the primary driver, as the paywall is the metaphor I use, speaking as a tech CEO, they want to put human experience behind a paywall, so that you have to pay with your body in order to just gather with other people in order to just have a holiday or, you know, engage in commerce or keep your job.
And that's how tech bros think they want to monetize human experience and they want to crush the human advantage.
And so they did align with governments and used pharma to do it.
steve bannon
Tucker Carlson about the book about bodies.
Naomi Wolf is one of the bravest, clearest thinking women I know, people I know.
The reason you hear the forces of repression so desperately trying to dismiss her is because she is right.
Stephen K. Bannon.
Naomi Wolf warned America and the world at the start of this pandemic that would be used to eviscerate the Constitution and civil liberties.
It's uncanny how right she was.
How she predicted the tyranny that was to come via the lockdowns.
Mask and vaccine mandates and the bodies of others.
She takes you on a journey through a modern day Dante's Inferno.
This is a book that will shake you to your core.
A warning of the struggle ahead and what you can do to resist.
It's all in the bodies of others.
You get to get her personal journey in the journey of all this.
It's pretty amazing.
And you're really at the start of this journey.
I mean, this fight is going to be tremendous.
And tonight at the Willard Hotel, it's going to be a big event.
Captain Bannon is going to be there doing live... Oh, that's awesome!
Oh yeah, she's going to be there doing live interviews.
You guys have a who's who of... I mean, it's Dr. McCullough, Dr. Alexander, so many great individuals associated.
Really, it's what becomes a movement and really revolved around your leadership.
It's just been incredible.
naomi wolf
Well, they're a lot of leaders, but most of them at the grassroots, the war room policy and others across the country.
steve bannon
Can we go and play the American Principles?
Terry Shulman's going to join us.
Play this spot and I'm just going to tee it up for tonight.
Terry's going to talk to us about tonight.
unidentified
Congresswoman Nancy Mace says she's a conservative.
But as soon as she got to Washington, she started acting like Nancy Pelosi.
Mace sponsored a transgender rights bill that would destroy women's sports.
She thinks it's just fine to let men take opportunities for scholarships and championships away from female athletes.
The bill would put men in girls' locker rooms, men in women's prisons, and even men in battered women's shelters.
Conservative?
Not even close.
We can do better.
Vote against Nancy Mace on June 14th.
steve bannon
You know, the American Principal's Prize has been at the back of this whole fight for Title IX and for women's sports and all that.
So we're going to have Terry Schilling is going to be on tonight talking.
Pretty explosive spot to put down in the South Carolina race.
He's going to join us tonight.
Also tonight on both shows, about the 5 o'clock show and 6 o'clock show, we're going to have Captain Bannon down at the Willard Hotel to pull out some of the who's who that you brought together.
It's really it's really the kind of the vanguard that have been at the tip of the spear on this fight for body autonomy.
naomi wolf
I just remind myself that in 1775 it was a handful of people.
It's a handful of people.
steve bannon
It's always a handful of people that come.
It's a fourth turning.
That's what it is.
Short break.
Very special guests next in the world.
unidentified
That defines the American spirit.
Preserving life, liberty, and pursuing happiness.
Caring for the nation we call home, and its people.
As patriots, it's our duty to drive the entrepreneurial spirit.
Pushing hard, reaching for success.
Sharing patriotism.
Because the American way of life is for all to live.
The flagship where freedom reigns.
It's been more than a labor of love for Sabin Howard.
When you hear the word in service of, that's what I feel I'm in service of.
A New Jersey sculptor who with each carve remembers and honors the brave Americans who have fought in the First World War.
Because I realize how much Suffering has gone into their experience and how little caring is involved in our society towards people that have actually sacrificed.
Sabin is an avid sculptor.
He was chosen by the World War I Centennial Commission to create a national memorial to remember a war they feared would be forgotten.
Then he leads the battle charge.
After that you have the cost of war.
Here he is transformed.
Shell shocked.
It's called a soldier's journey.
Five scenes, 38 figures, every story, deeply personal and emotional, especially for veterans like Wilfred Selby, a medic who treated soldiers wounded in combat.
As he looks at the faces of these sculptures, he can't help but feel overwhelmed.
It's very emotional.
What we were trying to do.
Saban has been sculpting since August of 2019.
He has a four-year sculpting period and as each section is completed, it's taken to a foundry where it's cast in bronze.
By December of 2023, a soldier's journey is expected to be completed and will be shipped to the National Mall in Washington, D.C.
to the World War I Memorial Park for a special unveiling on Memorial Day of 2024.
This is only 27 sheets out of 60.
steve bannon
We're so honored to have now Saban Howard, the artist in back of this.
Saban, first of all, how is it 60 feet?
Is the sculptor itself going to be, the soldier's journey going to be 60 feet when it's completed?
unidentified
Yeah, that's right.
58 and a half feet with 38 figures all marching into the future.
steve bannon
Talk to me about, what I find most powerful is you did not, you were inspired by, you did not want their sacrifice to be forgotten.
The horrible sacrifice of World War I, which is, even I have to admit, is kind of in the midst of time.
Very few people, it's not studied, it's not taught, and very few people remember it.
Tell us why that drove you.
unidentified
Well, let's put it in context.
You have 22 million people dying, and you scorched the earth, and you changed The direction of humanity, so there's no more assembly of a universe in a divine fashion, but you go into a whole different mindset, which is alienation.
It's the modern era.
It's the beginning of the modern era.
So just that very fact, and I'm doing a sculpture that is about humans, that's sacred art, that goes back to what things were like prior to World War I to commemorate this.
It's just something so horrific, but what came out of these ashes was the humanity that survived.
And so my job as an artist is to serve and to play forward that type of art.
That's an art that represents us.
steve bannon
So tell us about that.
How did you, how did you come up with the concept of the soldier's journey?
Cause I take it from all 60 feet.
You start at the beginning.
It's the soldier's journey all the way through the conflict.
unidentified
Yes, I had a lot of training.
It's like 75,000 hours of looking at life models.
So I started back in the 80s.
And so when I won this project, I won a 360 global team competition.
And I was very naive as an artist.
I'd never entered into the arena in Washington.
And I had to go through agency approval.
I had to go through an approval with the client, which was Centennial Commission.
And I went through a hell of a journey just to get to the place where this sculpture started.
So I came up with 12,000 images that I took in my studio of regular people today.
Because that's what I saw when I went and looked on Google.
The soldiers and the women that were in World War I were regular people.
People, human beings.
And so I took what I knew in the art making process and I applied it to my procedure to come up with this story.
The story was not arrived at immediately.
It took nine months.
I did 18 iterations, 18 iterations of like 40 people till we arrived at something that my client, the Centennial Commission, was happy with.
And then we had to go into agency approval with the Commission of Fine Arts in Washington.
So I had to pass through that as well.
And we did that in a year and a half.
So I started back in 2015.
I didn't start sculpting till 2019.
And if you look at the whole story of A Hero's Journey, that is the story that is in every culture, every part of the world, in every time period of our history as mankind.
My wife, Tracy, who's a novelist, informed me that I was doing The Hero's Journey, which is basically a story of how someone leaves home, goes into an adventure, is transformed by this adventure, And then returns home to give that information back to its culture.
And so that's what the sculpture is about.
The first image is this dad who takes the helmet from his daughter and his wife, then enters into the fray with his brotherhood of arms, goes into battle, leads the battle charge, exits the battle charge, transforms, shell-shocked.
And that figure of the Shellshark Soldiers right here, right behind me.
That's it.
He's an allegory for the United States and the world.
And then the last scene is he's giving the helmet to his daughter.
He returns home.
That's the next generation.
That's World War II.
steve bannon
Wow.
Saban, we've got to bounce, but we're going to come back and do a more deeper dive on this.
It's absolutely magnificent.
Is there any site you can go to follow your work?
unidentified
Yeah, you can look at...
SabinHoward.com and you can look at Sabin Howard Sculptures.
I just want to add one thing, Steve.
We're doing a documentary to show this.
We'll have a documentary out when we finish.
steve bannon
Perfect.
Well, we'll follow this closely.
Sabin, thank you so much for joining us today from your studio.
unidentified
Thank you.
My pleasure.
steve bannon
Sacred art, which is the human body, and the hero's journey, which is Naomi Wolf.
Today kicks off, right?
To go out and fight and come back and tell what you have learned.
That's the book, The Bodies of Others.
Make sure you get it.
You can only get four if you go on Amazon.
That's there for a reason.
Today at the Willard, it kicks off.
It's going to be a who's who.
Captain Bannon will be there.
We'll be doing live reporting from both the five o'clock and the six o'clock show.
naomi wolf
Really exciting.
steve bannon
Thank you so much for being here today.
naomi wolf
Thank you, and thank you for all your Support and help.
steve bannon
It's just the war room.
naomi wolf
Yeah.
steve bannon
Don't be sad.
naomi wolf
All of you.
unidentified
All of you.
steve bannon
Thank you all.
naomi wolf
No, I'm hopeful when I'm here.
unidentified
I really am.
steve bannon
The Pfizer thing is monumental.
Okay, five o'clock today.
Be back here.
We've got so much to go through.
We'll chop a lot of wood at five o'clock and at six.
unidentified
See you back here in the war room.
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