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Episode 1,882 – America Turns Against 40 Billion Dollar Ukraine PackageEpisode 1,882 – America Turns Against 40 Billion Dollar Ukraine Package
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
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France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
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Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
This is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
We have to prepare for the worst, always.
anthony fauci
Because if you don't, then the worst happens.
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steve bannon
OK, it's Wednesday, 25 May, the Order of the Lord 2022.
We're in the middle of we're going to be going over our commemoration of Memorial Day for the whole week, different segments of the show.
We're going to go back and Dr. Bragan is going to come on and talk about the World Health Assembly and organization a little later.
Noor Bin Laden is going to be back in Geneva.
But I do want to get to this afternoon.
We're going to address more of this Georgia situation.
Steve, like I said, I think right now if you went through all the chat rooms, we've got a pretty massive audience that is live in different chat rooms right now.
At least 10% are not, they're not, I mean, look, there's 50% that think there were problems.
10% are just not buying it at all, don't want to hear it.
Don't want to talk about it, don't want to listen to it.
And I can understand that, and I appreciate that.
Also on Getter, I've got a couple of posts up there.
This is why Captain Ben and Ben Harnwell are going to be running seminars on different sites to show you how to get on Getter so you can follow Cortez, you can follow me, you can follow Harnwell.
All of us because we're putting stuff up there all the time.
I've got a couple of posts right now that I'm asking specifically for your assessment and your analysis of what happened and not yet the way forward.
Just what your assessment of what went on and it's pretty enlightening.
And so we want to make sure this is a participatory.
This show is about you.
It's about getting you information.
And we understand a lot of people are fired up.
Some people are hurt.
A lot of people disappointed.
But we've got to fight on.
And we've got to figure out what went wrong and what happened.
But you know, Cortez is a guy that's been around the country.
No better fighter for President Trump.
And he's given it to you in his assessment of what we have to do to go forward.
I think John Fredericks also came out and endorsed Kemp this morning on his show.
steve cortes
And Steve, let me make just a point, if I could, about Georgia that I find fascinating.
Georgia 14, which is Marjorie Taylor Greene, who I think is the most courageous member of the United States Congress.
Absolutely love her.
$7 million of outside money sent in to try to primary challenge her.
Well, she won by 53%.
She won running away.
That's fantastic.
In her district, though, Raffensperger won by 20%.
That's very puzzling to me.
I don't have a good explanation, quite honestly.
That is not a vote that I would have made.
I would not have voted for MTG and then pulled the lever for Brad Raffensperger.
But the people of the 14th did that?
Again, it's puzzling to me.
I don't get it.
But here's my point.
Into the general election, we have a binary choice between Kemp and Stacey Abrams.
To me, that is a very, very clear choice for Kemp.
steve bannon
By the way, I'm shocked that Raffensperger last night didn't go below 50% at all.
I'm stunned that he won, but to win in the first round, I think it's pretty stunning.
And I know that's reinforcing some of the folks that don't think the vote count was right.
I want to go to Russ Vogt.
Russ, we started today in Geneva.
We started this week, all week, in Geneva.
And in Davos, but we also went to the American Military Cemetery outside of Rome that has brought back our honored dead from the Sicily campaign and the Italian campaign.
Give us your thoughts right now, because there's a new poll out this morning, Associated Press poll.
So it's not Gateway Pundit or Trafalgar.
It's not somebody on the right.
It's the Associated Press.
It says the headline in Real Club Politics was a massive shift.
of the American people's attitude now they understand that, hey, in the middle of all this economic carnage, we're actually paying for the pension funds of Ukraine and for the oligarchs in Ukraine.
And now, like, people are like, what did we just do? They're adamantly opposed to that. What say you, sir?
russ vought
Yeah, I thought we had a huge momentum build with this $40 billion debate that occurred that, quite frankly, we were very opposed to that bill for the reasons that you just articulated.
But the outrage that the American people had with that bill, I think it was a breakthrough in the midst of the neocon moment that we were in.
I mean, I think that Ukraine in general has been something that the neocons have tried to use to beat back the America First movement without saying so.
And this package, it's not NATO expansion yet.
This package to Ukraine has been very, very opposed.
And I think people have, it's one of those gut moments with the country to say, what?
Why are we spending $8 billion to fund their government?
Why is it that when we're doing these packages, that by the way, no one in Europe is doing packages like this.
Why is it that Ukraine gets to say out that they're not going to walk towards the negotiating table, that they alone are the ones that decide their future?
Well, that's fine if you're not getting $40 billion to prop up your government on a proxy basis.
So this is the kind of thing that makes no sense to the American people that are suffering at every level of their economic situation across the country.
steve bannon
Look, you've been doing this for a long time, and you were the OMB head under President Trump, which I think is, if not, that's why the Chief of Staff is the most important role in the executive branch, because you coordinate where all the money gets spent and how it gets spent.
It's the mindset of even people we like and admire.
And I'm throwing out Cotton and Cruz and Mo Brooks that there's not even a thing about having a debate.
There's no question of making Biden and the regime come to the table and just walk us through a plan.
Tell me how this ends.
It's got to be so urgent.
Remember, we did the appropriations bill, the $1.5 trillion, in the middle of the night.
Why did they have to do it?
The urgency of getting $10 billion to the Ukraine.
Then again, this comes up $40 billion.
It's so urgent.
It must happen.
There's no urgency for the American people.
Always urgency to send our money over the places.
Russ, why is the mindset, and this is on the conservative side, why is that mindset there that's not even open for debate, hearings, due diligence, sir?
russ vought
Well, on the conservative side, I still think that we are trapped in a World War II framing.
So we view, the movement is still thinking that this is the Soviet Union and is viewing everything through the mind of Munich, and it's just not the case.
And Ukraine, in some respects, has proven that by the fact that the Russian government has had a hard time moving through Ukraine and is certainly not able to have that kind of blitzkrieg across the entirety of Europe.
So that's just one point.
But the other point I would say, Is that this is cartel government at best, or at worst.
So cartel government is essentially when you take government off of the, out of the de jure authorities of Congress, the floor of the House, it's all done behind closed doors and then it's brought at the last minute for the authorities to approve it.
So they write the bill and then they put it at the last minute.
Or they have the Department of Defense send it and then create a backfill of missiles or whatever that we're sending over there and then they just come in and expect Congress to fill the back hole because they know that they've created a leverage point, a crisis situation.
That is what the American people hate.
They don't ever have an opportunity to have a debate about what they think our foreign policy should be.
That's why we are so fired up about NATO expansion.
NATO expansion says you are signing up for a war in the future and you never get to have that debate without the honor of the country being on the hook.
And we believe that that debate should be had now.
Are we willing to send America men and women to fight in a war over a border incursion Or over a naval situation between Sweden and Russia.
If we're not, then we should say no now and not sign ourselves up for that and the federal dollars that flow to the requirements that that commitment signs us up for.
steve bannon
Cortez, talk to me about that NATO expansion and cartel government, the theory of the case that Russ Vought puts forward.
steve cortes
Sure, and Steve, let me make a point here too.
I think it is so important for people who are in positions of leadership, whether they're policy makers or they're just leaders of the movement and media and so forth, it's so important to not be enslaved by polling.
We need to pay close attention to polling.
Where are the American people?
But my point here is that we can lead polling.
And on this issue, to your point, the American people are coming around to the de-escalation position.
Why?
Because important people like you, Tucker Carlson, J.D.
Vance, have been making the de-escalation case.
Now, it wasn't very popular at first.
When we first started talking this way weeks ago, right, it wasn't very popular.
We were accused of somehow being puppets of Putin.
But as the American people, two things have happened.
Number one, they've learned far more about the situation and they've learned about the costs of escalation.
Number two, as their personal financial situation deteriorates here at home, they become a lot less interested in interventionism overseas.
So the polling is moving our way.
But my point here, Steve, is that that is real leadership.
Is to pay attention where polling is, but don't be driven by polling.
Instead, lead polling.
And in this case, I believe that the America First movement of foreign policy, realism, and restraint is leading the polling.
The American people are coming around.
As you mentioned, AP polling shows that the American people are coming around to our point of view.
To the point of view that we have no systemic vital national security interest in Ukraine.
And to that point of Enlarging NATO.
Look, it is a terrible idea.
Does the United States really want to commit itself to the defense of the Finnish-Russian border, which is over 800 miles long?
Is that in the critical national security interest of the United States?
No.
Now, it might be in the critical interest of Germany.
It might be in Poland's.
It might be in Italy and France, perhaps.
Let's leave that to them.
These are advanced nations who no longer should enjoy the training wheels that the United States has provided them for 75 years, including 100,000 brave young Americans over there right now.
steve bannon
We have combat troops.
I'm going to go back to Russ Vought.
By the way, the Finnish-Russian border, I think it was in the Howitzer of St.
Petersburg.
Russ Vought.
Extracted people, I want to make sure you understand what NATO is, this kind of combination of staffs, but the two percent, they haven't been paying what they committed themselves to get up to.
And I think our bill is over three and a half.
I think we're at three and a half percent, maybe three point nine percent.
This is why we have essentially a trillion dollar defense bill.
And guess what?
We've got basically a trillion, a trillion and a half dollar A structural, systemic deficit that we can't afford.
Russ Vought.
russ vought
No, and remember, this is 3% of a much larger economy.
So I think sometimes when you measure it as a percentage of GDP, it doesn't get to the magnitude of what we're actually providing in terms of the security umbrella to Europe.
And as a result, they just coast.
I mean, there is literally no reason for them to arm up as effectively as they should on the basis of their own threat perceptions.
Now, and that's one of the things we would say is that Finland has done a pretty good job over the last several decades of being a country that has armed itself and has done what's necessary to prevent Russian aggression in their country.
Why would we want to change that perspective that would cause them to then take a back seat because America's got it?
It makes no sense.
And I just would want to drill one point really down a little bit harder.
As a budget person, It's very hard to get a handle on the makeup of a defense budget because it is geared towards fulfilling commitments that have been made over several decades.
So when you sign a treaty and it goes through the Senate, you're now as a country on the hook for certain commitments, and that means requirements.
What are the defense requirements necessary to fulfill that commitment?
And it just kind of becomes automatic.
You don't get an opportunity to say, well, hey, I don't believe that requirement's necessary.
At that point, it's with the generals, and they have the upper hand to be able to say, this is what's required.
These are the end strength that is necessary.
And what that means is you don't have the ability, we don't have all the resources in the world.
So we don't have the ability to invest in the Navy, in the Air Force, because of these manpower commitments that are required to make and fulfill these commitments in NATO.
steve bannon
Russ, hang on for one second.
Steve, what's your social media?
I know you're going to be putting stuff up all day and now the audience is heads on fire because Cortez is saying you've got to get back to camp.
unidentified
And we're going to give you plenty of time to come back and make your case because you're a beloved contributor to the show.
steve cortes
I promise you I have not gone soft, Steve.
I promise you that.
But when I'm given a binary choice...
steve bannon
You're the hardestcore guy I know.
You're actually more hardcore than I am.
How do people follow you, though?
Because I know they're going to want to get on your Getter account and follow you on Twitter.
steve cortes
Yeah, please find me at Getter.
I'm at Steve there.
And then over at Twitter, I'm at Cortez.
Steve Cortez with an S. Appreciate it.
steve bannon
Thank you.
Okay, what we're going to do is we're going to ask Russ Vogt to stay over because I've got to ask some questions about where this all heads.
Remember, we did the $40 billion.
You see in this tragic event down in Texas, people are already saying, hey, why don't we allocate resources over to the security of these schools, right?
To harden these schools.
People are saying they're passing around this thing that was shot down the other day about additional stimulus or additional help to the small businesses and to the restaurants.
These are called trade-offs and they're called opportunity cost.
Russ Vought was the smartest guy in the entire Trump administration in thinking through the hard math of how you govern.
They say we're not a party that can govern?
I doubt that.
You're gonna see from Russ Vought when we return in The War Room in a moment.
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Okay, welcome back.
We're going to go back to Russ Vought in a second.
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Russ, vote!
What Cortez said is important.
It's the intellectual leisure.
You've got to continue to put the information out to the world.
You've got to put the information out to the people.
And they will come.
The American people have tremendous common sense when presented with facts.
And you see, and I think this thing is just 55% now.
It's going to go to two-thirds, one-third, 70-30.
And people that voted for that, you know, the Cotton's of the world and the Cruz's of the world and the Lindsey Graham.
Lindsey Graham's out there bragging on Handy.
Well, you're going to rue the day.
That you're going to have to sit there and people are going to say, why didn't you have hearings about this?
Why didn't you have due diligence about this?
Why were we bailing out the pension funds of Ukraine with these oligarchs at these companies?
Well, we don't have pension funds.
There's not a person listening to this show under 40 years old has a pension fund.
Okay?
Nobody.
And this is outrageous.
The question is, How do we, you know, now they're talking about NATO, and I want you to explain to people how much we actually put up in hard capital every year, and in blood and treasure, given what the countries of Europe just refuse to do, and continue to refuse to do, even when Donald Trump shames them, sir.
russ vought
Yeah, and for your audience, so Steve and I were going back in the break, and Steve just commissioned a number of good papers that we're going to do to actually show you, this audience, The comparisons between what NATO countries are doing and what we're already doing.
But we have troops overseas in Europe right now that are a part of what's required to fulfill our NATO commitments.
Other countries are not doing that.
Yeah, they have people that are devoted as well, but the sheer number is nowhere in comparison to what we do.
Plus, we are also on the hook for the nuclear security umbrella, and we have sizable commitments that go Towards making sure, rightfully, that our nuclear modernization is kept up to a place where it scares the rest of the world to make sure that they know that we mean business.
And all of that is geared towards this security umbrella that we provide on behalf of other countries.
But of course, do we ever get a say when they decide to make their energy reliance on Russia?
No, of course not.
We don't get a say in that.
Do we get an opportunity to say when they should go back to the peace table to make sure that this war in Ukraine-Russia ends?
No, we don't get a say in that.
So we just put up all the dollars, our defense commitments get put up for the rest of the world, and we don't actually get a say as to what the terms of the debate are.
That's why I believe this is something that, as the American people get their mind wrapped around the trade-offs, And the fact that we have a governing consensus in this country, bipartisan, that a $40 billion bill like this can just go through in the dark of night, but we can't get money for the southern border in over four years from this Congress, that's a major problem that we should reflect on and maybe actually solve that problem before we go and try to bail other countries out and all that they're spending on in their countries.
steve bannon
You talk about opportunity costs, too.
There's obviously, given the tragic event outside of San Antonio yesterday, about the hardening of schools.
There's also debates on, you know, there's this thing about the bill that didn't pass, didn't go anywhere, about the bailing out of our additional stimulus money for restaurants and small businesses.
I'm not saying I agree with any of that.
My point is, if you're doing something here, you can't do the opportunity here.
Russ, we've got the debt ceilings coming up a couple weeks because the political class kicked it a couple weeks past the election, past November.
But the reality is, is that we're still hitting the printing press.
This stuff is totally unpaid for.
We're just putting, we're printing money.
And committing obligations to everybody under 40 years old, right?
We're making them more and more like Russian serfs every day.
What do you think it needs to do?
Because you were the guy that was the smartest on the numbers of how this apparatus actually runs.
What is your recommendation of how we try to change the political classes outlook about this to something that's more mature, more measured, and has more discernment?
russ vought
Yeah, well, I think these debates are vital.
I mean, we don't have an actual leverage point on the appropriations until the end of the year.
But we have to use these moments that I believe are clarifying, whether it's the $40 billion for the Ukraine package or the NATO expansion, where they actually have to get to the United States Senate.
And I think we need to seize those opportunities to explain all of the full a gamut of arguments that goes into our worldview versus what we're up against with regard to the D.C.
bipartisan consensus that we're dealing with. And I think that's vital. We also have to have a recognition of balancing the budget and articulating what inflation response should be.
It can't just be blame the Biden administration and hope on the Fed.
The Fed is probably not coming to the rescue. Every time they move, Wall Street is gleeful that they have not gone and done what they should have gone and done.
And so we've got to get Republicans in a place where their answers to inflation are getting back on the terms of balancing the budget and making the tough trade-offs.
And those trade-offs should be informed by an America First agenda.
That recognizes that discretionary government agencies are weaponized against the American people and we have needs in this country that need to be taken into account and we can balance the budget.
I'm working on it right now to be able to show America how to do this in a way that is consistent with the trade-offs that Donald Trump ran for office on.
steve bannon
I can't tell you how monumental that would be, because this is a thing we've got to get control over right now.
You can't continue to run with a structural tray-into-a-tray-and-a-half dollar of annual deficits.
You just can't.
And once interest rates start exploding, you're going to be stuck.
I don't say a death spiral, but you're seeing the managed decline of a nation right now.
And you're seeing it because of your bettors on Wall Street, these global corporations and the Uniparty here.
They have, you know, your bettors, who are supposed to be so smart, have no maturity, no discernment.
And no ability to really make tough decisions.
They want to kick the can down the road.
So Russ, walk us through your organization, the types of things you're working on, and when are you going to be able to come back and present these types of things?
Because to get to a balanced budget, even to get the deficit down dramatically, You have to really rethink your commitments.
What are we trying to accomplish here?
What are we trying to accomplish as far as national security goes?
What are we trying to accomplish as far as our sovereignty goes?
What are we trying to accomplish in all the... It's programmatic.
You've got to get your sense around, your hands around the programs first.
Then the math can flow from that.
Russ, vote.
russ vought
Sure.
Our organization is designed, as we've said before, to continue the America First fight.
So we did everything from NATO expansion to yesterday we proposed the repeal of the H-1B visa program.
Our budget that I just mentioned that we'll be working on is designed to be able to get to the numerical numbers without the kinds of trade-offs that the Wall Street class has insisted was necessary, which was
To say to seniors in which the DC class basically blew their money in the Social Security Trust Fund for the last 30 years, and then comes to them and says, hey, we want you to be the first on the chopping block instead of the Bob Dylan statute in foreign aid sitting in Mozambique.
That's the kind of thing we have to go at first, and we've got to get after these agencies we've talked about before, the administrative state, big money, EPA, CDC, NIH, that's weaponized against the American people and we need to put them on the chopping block before we get to some other things down the road.
And I would also say that there's a lot of things we need to do to get people back into the workforce and we can do that with the next generation of welfare reform to make sure that we're not providing incentives for people not to be able to do everything they can to have the dignity of work.
And I believe that, and we're going to prove it, that when we have those two major directional trade-offs, that we're going to be able to get this country back in order fiscally with a plan to get to balance over time.
steve bannon
Russ, what's the social media, I know on Getter I follow you closely, what's your social media handles on all the platforms and how do people get to your organization to find out more?
russ vought
AmericaRenewing.com is the website and at RussVote is the easiest way to find all of our work on all platforms.
steve bannon
By the way, they keep saying, oh, this whole movement is nothing but anger, and people yelling at the TV screen, and out in protest, and it's a bunch of people breathing their mouths.
This actually has a governing philosophy, and Russ Vogt is the guy that's putting the math together about that.
So Russ, really honored to have you on here, and thanks for all your hard work.
Like I said, you were the OMB director under President Trump, and by far the smartest guy in the room about the numbers.
russ vought
Thanks, Steve.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to have a lot more at 5 o'clock today.
We're going to talk about, there's still this incredible, incredible dogfight up in Pennsylvania.
I think they're going to have an interim winner announced sometime today here in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
Then it's got to go to a recount.
They're still fighting over, I think, military balance and various things.
And, of course, the McCormick campaign is being incredibly aggressive.
We had Jim Schultz on yesterday.
We're going to try to get Jim back because I don't think they're going to back off on this thing at all.
And, of course, we're going to talk about Georgia and what exactly transpired in Georgia.
Also, there's runoffs in Georgia.
There's going to be a runoff in Alabama for the Senate seat.
We're going to get to all that.
So we've got a lot to get to at 5 o'clock today.
We've asked.
We're going to take a short break.
We've asked Dr. Bregan.
Noor bin Laden suggested it, and we were already a little bit ahead of her.
It was brilliant.
So we're going to go to Dr. Bregan.
We're going to find out, talk about what's happening in Geneva with the World Health Assembly about American sovereignty.
We are going to get Noor back up, and then we're going to try to get bin Hanwar.
So we've got a lot to get to.
Just hang with us.
We'll be back in a moment in the War Room.
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OK, I want to I've asked and I'm really glad that he was able to do this because we had such a tremendous audience response and nor had recommended it.
We started in Geneva outside of what was the start of the League of Nations, the war to end all wars.
And we're trying to connect dots all this week.
Between what's happening in Davos and what's happening in Geneva right now at the World Health Organization, the World Health Assembly.
We've asked Dr. Peter Bregan to join us again.
Dr. Bregan, could you put it in perspective?
You've had a chance to watch the show.
We've had Ben Harnwell outside the National Military Cemetery in Rome.
We're going to go back to Ben shortly.
Could you put it in perspective exactly what your thoughts are on this?
peter r breggin
Thank you.
Yeah, I've been really listening to this tremendous show this morning.
There are some simple principles that if folks understand, everything falls into place and none of these seemingly haphazardous things are a mystery anymore.
Since the League of Nations, through the United Nations, through the globalists, through the Great Reset, the con is that it's for the good of humanity, but the truth is That it's a way of draining money, wealth and power upward into the global class, which is also the elites, the billionaires, the big corporations.
So if you look at any one puzzling problem, it fits into that explanation.
And as you've said, you know, there's nothing is haphazard.
So if you look at the border, why do they want an open border?
The United States' integrity is what stands in the way of globalism.
And if they can take away the integrity of our border and the integrity of our sovereignty, that will weaken us.
If they can flood the country with people who don't understand the Constitution of the United States and understand the Bill of Rights, that'll weaken our sovereignty.
And if we can flood the country with cheaper labor to make us look more like The Chinese labor market or the Vietnamese labor market, that all weakens our integrity and our sovereignty.
Then you look at inflation and inflation is the classic way that the wealthy grow richer and we go poorer and that happens directly through the banks.
I mean the banks create inflation by pouring money, especially our Fed.
pouring money into other banks and into the wealthy people again.
They get the money and then the money grows cheap and then it gets paid for with taxes and with inflation.
So again, it's the money shifting up.
Yes, well what's happening with NATO?
What's happening with spending money on the military, the 40 billion that's going to go into the Ukraine?
Again, that money is going to make the globalists more and more wealthy.
The globalists are tremendously invested in Ukraine now and the Ukrainian president is a part of Davos.
He's a very strong part of it.
So again, the money is flowing upward from the poor nations, the poor people, the middle class, but even our richer classes.
They're nothing compared now to the disparity of wealth to the richer people.
There is no aspect that we're looking at today that isn't explicable that the true goal of globalism has never been for humanity, but to drain wealth and power upward.
And then that brings us to the World Health Organization.
And that's become a spearhead of draining wealth upward and power upward.
And it's been really effective during COVID-19.
And they've been working closely with the CDC.
I was talking this morning with James Waguski, who has been, you know, really working on this in a strong way.
And he's got a new website.
He's got a website, leavethewho.com.
The WHO is our enemy, but the WHO is directly connected to the CDC.
The CDC, just before COVID-19, set up new rules where they could declare an emergency, a national emergency, if the who did. So it's all tied together. It's all about shifting up money and power. And every single thing that we're looking at in the turbulence around us is explicable in those terms. And it all relates
back to what I talked about in COVID-19 and the global predators, which is that we now have a global predator class that masquerades as Marxism or the Chinese, I call them the Eastern Empire, or masquerades as bringing progressivism into the corporate world, which is the Great Reset. And that is just another form of predation under...
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Okay, that's a picture I want to give.
steve bannon
No, it's a great overview, but let me ask you about, because it's a 30-front war, right?
And you got to, this part of the, you taught the long game of the long war against what's happening at the international health regulations now, the amendments we put forward, our government, the people that represent people in this audience, We didn't say illegitimate regime, but they put it forward.
What is, we've got a couple minutes.
Walk us through, how do we, and your best guess, take this on now, the IHR, Regulations and Amendments, at the World Health Assembly, and then make sure that we don't get into this pandemic treaty, they're trying to expand NATO treaty, to make sure under no circumstances do we have Bill Gates' pandemic treaty become a treaty of the United States.
peter r breggin
Okay.
Well, first of all, you have to let go of the language of pandemic treaty.
They're going after all health emergencies.
I'm holding the very latest publication that came out yesterday from The Who and it is about health emergencies.
The treaties are not going to be about pandemics.
None of this is about pandemics.
That's just one of the elements.
What they're interested in Is having a world hegemony over handling anything that becomes called the health emergency.
So we got to get real clarity on that Steve.
The they want us to be thinking pandemics, but their own literature is about health emergencies.
The whole works.
It looks like we have temporarily at least stymied their attempt to pass the US amendments, which would have made a dictatorship out of the who.
And out of the Director General Tedros, so literally would have been a dictatorship where they could go for any health emergency that they suspected had any global implications.
They could marshal the forces of the UN, their own regulations, and marshal forces like the World Bank, which is a part of the UN, and do a job on any country that was not handling the internal emergency The way the WHO thought they should.
Those amendments have not been put forward.
It looks like the appearances on your show by a number of us and the work we've been doing with Congress and so on has stymied that, at least for now.
And they've come out with an alternative bunch of amendments, which looks like regulation tightening, but putting things off while they develop a new approach to getting the regulations they want passed.
So right now, that looks like it's over.
We can't be sure.
But I think that's over for now.
And it's because of all the work, but we have to continue the work and make sure it doesn't come back.
And then we get into the treaties, which are going to be heating up and, and it's going to be a situation where
Any high-ranking official, the President, the Vice President or anyone appointed, this is the rules of the UN, anyone appointed by the Secretary of State will with one signature be able to sign a so-called treaty with the World Health Organization, which will give its global health sovereignty to the World Health Organization.
That is still on the table.
It's still percolating and moving along.
They talk about having the treaties available for signature, perhaps in August.
It's unclear.
But this is the next big threat and they can they can fudge this.
I mean, what you what you'll hear from, you know, cowardice, cowardly congressmen and senators as well.
That's a treaty.
We can stop that.
Well, first of all, they can name it something else.
They can name it a declaration.
They've got a whole bunch of names they can give it, which will give Congress a big excuse for not saying this is a treaty.
So what I'm expecting to see is that we will be seeing nations signing treaties, giving over any global aspect of health care, any implication that the health care has international Implications to the World Health Organization.
There's just no stopping their continually trying to take away national sovereignty because national sovereignty America First Great Britain First Canada First National Sovereignties are the protection against the global empire and the fight goes on.
I think we need to get out of the who.
Or at least recognize it as an enemy.
steve bannon
Dr. Bregin, how do people get to your site, your writings, and particularly the COVID-19 and the global predators?
Where do they go and how do they follow you on a daily basis?
peter r breggin
Yeah, thank you.
On a daily basis, well, if you go to Bregin.com, on a daily basis, you can follow us by getting our free Bregin Alerts.
So get the Bregin Alerts from Bregin.com.
You can buy the book on Bregin.com, but we also have a dedicated website.
If you just want to go buy the book at a discount, go to WeAreThePrey.com and that way you bypass Amazon.
You can get it on Amazon too, but you can go instead to us and support our institution at WeAreThePrey.com.
We've sold about a hundred thousand copies now.
We've started giving away copies.
We've given several Several thousand away now to conferences and other places.
steve bannon
We want to make it like the Bobby Kennedy book.
We're not going to be happy until we get to a million copies.
Dr. Bregan, thank you so much for changing your day up to come on the show.
Really appreciate it.
We're going to put all those platforms on our chat room so people can start to go there.
So thank you so much.
And we'll make sure everybody gets the Bregan alerts.
peter r breggin
Thank you.
steve bannon
Dr. Peter Brigham.
Okay, we're going to take a break.
We're going to come back and we're going to wrap up with, I think we've got Ben Harnwell.
Ben Harnwell is outside the American Military Cemetery outside of Rome.
Also, I think if we still do, we've got Nora Ben Laden, and so we're going to go back to Geneva also.
Okay, short commercial break.
We're going to return in the War Room with Noor Ben Laden from Geneva, Ben Harnwell from outside Rome in just a moment.
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Let's go back to Geneva.
Nora Bin Laden.
Nora, you heard your recommendation.
Dr. Bregan was available.
We got him on.
It was amazing.
Give us your assessment, ma'am.
noor bin laden
Yeah, absolutely.
Dr. Bregan is such a treasure.
And the breakdown that he did this time around, again today, was absolutely brilliant.
And he just nailed it.
It was spot on.
Giving the entire context of what we see happening right now today and
He was absolutely right in saying that what we're seeing right now with the WHO, with this new instrument that they're coming up with, whether it's a convention, an agreement, or an international instrument as they're referring to it right now, we don't know yet which form it will take, but it's exactly what is going to be used to push forward in these final stages of the New World Order, of the Great Reset.
And they have used and will continue to use, as we are seeing play out actually in the news, health emergencies.
Again, rightly pointed out by Dr. Reagan, they're going to keep using these health emergencies to justify the encroachment on our rights and our loss of freedoms.
And the point that I wanted to make, Is that they, and I said it in the previous segment, they keep using these crises to justify these measures and sorry again Dr. Reagan nailed it when he said they are packaging this in the guise of health and all these very great sounding words, you know, security.
And everything seems to be done for our own benefit when in fact it's the absolute exact opposite.
It is 100% to our detriment and solely for the purpose of consolidating the elite's power and their wealth.
steve bannon
Give us, we know if we put enough spotlight on this in sunlight that these people all scurry away, right?
That they won't, you know, they know they can't defend it.
But give me a minute on this digital passport, the convergence of Big Tech with what's happening in the World Health Organization.
You see in Davos, they're talking about it, they can track you everywhere.
Talk about this, the digital global vaccine passport, ma'am.
noor bin laden
Yes, absolutely.
So as I just mentioned, this is the excuse or the justification that they're using this health crisis, this so-called pandemic, to implement these digital passports.
This process has started a long time ago.
I mean, the past 20 years, we see what has happened.
And the different measures that have been implemented as a result of the war on terror and the threat our society here in the West have faced because of Islamic terrorism.
This was very much weaponized to further this agenda in many many respects and this is the next logical step with these so-called health crises that they are setting up the Conditions for the population to readily accept a biosecurity type infrastructure whereby everything, all our movements will be tracked.
And I mentioned on Monday, this is obviously very much linked with what's happening in Davos and, you know, the social credit score type, CCP type thing that they're going to implement here with our energy consumption, etc.
This this is all part of the same plan.
steve bannon
Same plan.
Noor, how do people get to you again?
Let's have it one more time because the audience wants to find out more about you and more about your writings.
noor bin laden
Sure.
So the website is noorbinladin.com and I'm on Twitter and Getter both at at noorbinladin.
steve bannon
Noor, thank you very much for anchoring our coverage today out of Geneva.
Really appreciate it.
noor bin laden
My pleasure.
Always great being with you guys.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Let's go to Outside of Rome and Ben Harnwell.
Ben, we only got a couple of minutes.
Any closing thoughts?
I know you've been there all day today getting footage and helping us with the specials we've been putting up.
Any closing thoughts or observations?
ben harnwell
Yes, Steve.
It's basically, I think it's on the Korean War Memorial that freedom isn't free.
And this is a constant reminder of that when you're wandering around here through these sacred grounds and contemplating the ultimate sacrifice That America's finest gave, so that we here in Europe, we could be free.
Just to put it in historical context, Anzio is the famous battle.
It's just four and a half kilometres up the road.
This is where the Allies came in, their beachhead that came in, that broke in to Italy, which was then under German control.
I think it was being run by Field Marshal Kesselring.
And it was the successful invasion here, landing here, that led ultimately, four or so months later, To the liberation of Rome.
But this is where, this is the price of that, the sacrifice of that.
And it really makes you stop and think whether we do appreciate freedom and the cost that people need to pay to fight for it.
And just the general situation on war in general.
steve bannon
Ben, thank you so much.
How do people get to you?
Because you're going to be doing live coverage non-stop.
So how do people get to your Getter account?
ben harnwell
Thanks, Steve.
It's simply my surname.
Hanwell.
I'm on at Hanwell on Getter.
You either go to the app or go to the website, getter.com, and I'm there pushing stuff out, my analysis on things, 24-7.
steve bannon
Thank you so much.
At Anzio, one of the most difficult of all the battles in World War II, absolute bloodbath for the American troops, and I had an uncle, a very beloved uncle.
In fact, it was my mom's younger brother that was a merchant marine.
On one of the ships off of Anzio.
He used to tell us the stories as a young children about the Stuka dive bombers and just getting hit constantly The ships out at sea off of there, but he said on Anzio Beach.
It was just he could see from a distance It was absolutely brutal That is the price of freedom and you see that in the boot of Italy down there south of Rome Okay, the next couple of days when we're doing a lot of coverage of this obviously not gonna miss the economics the politics all of it in fact tonight At 5 o'clock will be pretty intense.
We want everybody to join us back in the War Room.
Until then, we'll leave you with Mansions of the Lord.
See you at 5 o'clock.
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