May 3, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| Let's dive right into the breaking news in a potentially groundbreaking shift in American constitutional law. | ||
| The Supreme Court appears poised to strike down the landmark Roe v. Wade decision. | ||
| According to a leaked draft opinion published last night by Politico, a majority of the Supreme Court is prepared To overturn the right to abortion, the leak of the 98-page document is unprecedented in the court's modern history. | ||
| The draft opinion was reportedly authored by Justice Samuel Alito and circulated in February. | ||
| Alito writes in part this, Roe was egregiously wrong from the start. | ||
| Its reasoning was exceptionally weak and the decision has had damaging consequences. | ||
| It is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue of abortion to the people's elected representatives. | ||
| NBC News has not obtained or been able to independently verify the authenticity of the document, and the Supreme Court has declined to comment. | ||
| The final opinion is expected in late June or early July. | ||
| Joe, so many different moving parts here, but overall, what does this story mean for the Supreme Court? | ||
| I mean, for the Supreme Court, in a word, illegitimacy. | ||
| You know, the Court's always been guided by the law, but it's also been keenly aware that as the only unelected branch of American government, they needed to not appear to be openly contemptuous of public opinion. | ||
| That would be especially true today, given the GOP's might-makes-right approach to the sacking of Merrick Garland's nomination or the elevation of Donald Trump's final pick. | ||
| One more thing. | ||
| Look at this picture, Mika, from Madeleine Albright's funeral. | ||
| The five Democratic politicians on the front row won the most votes in the presidential elections of 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. | ||
| And yet, a half century of constitutional rights supported by over 70% of Americans. | ||
| Let me underline that again because people lying to you on other channels will never say this. | ||
| Over 70% of Americans support that constitutional right. | ||
| Don't be swept away. | ||
| Well, the president's not in this picture. | ||
| The presidents who were outvoted in each one of those elections over the last three decades. | ||
| Now, Americans will rightly conclude that their voices and their votes no longer matter. | ||
| So what are the implications for the court? | ||
| For the law and for American democracy. | ||
| Let's bring in historian John Meacham and also former acting U.S. | ||
| Solicitor General Neil Cotillard. | ||
| John, let me begin with you. | ||
| And as Kissinger said, I think, during Vietnam, perception is reality. | ||
| Obviously, the perception for 70 percent of Americans waking up this morning. | ||
| Is going to be most likely that this is an illegitimate decision by an illegitimate court. | ||
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Well, the crisis of trust in institutions has just become universal in a way that is pretty much the nightmare scenario if you believe in the ultimate efficacy of the constitutional order to produce a more perfect union, right? | |
| To protect the Jeffersonian assertion of equality, to protect the rule of law for all of its imperfections, the system has been worth defending. | ||
| For 250 years. | ||
| Right now, if this draft decision, if the court were to go this far, you will have, as you were just saying, an extraordinary number of Americans believing that the system in fact cannot, is not capable of delivering justice, is not capable of reflecting the popular will even through the constitutional prism. | ||
| And I think that You know, one of the great questions of the era, the great question of the era is, are you and I, are we in this decade, are we up to democracy? | ||
| Are we commensurate to the task? | ||
| And I'm worried that we're entering the darkest period of that test, because if you have any reservations about the system's capacity to deliver justice, they have just been affirmed. | ||
| But as Joe points out, poll after poll shows this is about a 30% position that the Supreme Court has taken. | ||
| It doesn't obviously operate on polls, it operates on whether or not they believe this Roe vs. Wade should be upheld, whether it's legal. | ||
| You've slept on this, you've read through most of the opinion, or the draft opinion. | ||
| What is your first blush reaction, first to the substance of it, and second to this leak? | ||
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Honestly, I want to cry. | |
| You know, I want to cry in so many different ways, but just to start with the substance of this decision, this is as full-throated and muscular a decision as could ever be envisioned. | ||
| And yes, after the oral argument, I think we all predicted Roe v. Wade was on thin ice. | ||
| I think many thought it would be another year. | ||
| I mean, for the last three years, I've been saying, given once Justice Barrett got on the court, Roe's days are numbered. | ||
| But to see it in print, obviously it's only a draft opinion, but it sure looks like a real opinion. | ||
| I mean, this is hard. | ||
| This is not, it doesn't look like it's a deep fake or anything like that. | ||
| He uses all of Justice Alito's kind of signature moves. | ||
| And so it really does feel legitimate. | ||
| And what it means, just on abortion first, is that states can now pass laws with no rape or incest exception whatsoever prohibiting abortion. | ||
| And those are now constitutional. | ||
| The Supreme Court will not stand in their way. | ||
| Congress can pass such a law outlawing abortion in the 50 states. | ||
| The Supreme Court will not stand in its way. | ||
| So that's on abortion. | ||
| And then the reasoning of this decision. | ||
| Is so, as I say, muscular, it could reach other rights as well, including the right of marriage equality, which is just recognized by the Supreme Court a few years ago. | ||
| I mean, this is an opinion that Robert Bork would have written. | ||
| This is not an opinion that most justices who have lived in our lifetimes would have written. | ||
| And Robert Bork, of course, was rejected for the court because of these views. | ||
| Oh, Roe v. Wade is going to go! | ||
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| Oh Okay, it is Tuesday, what, 3 May, Year of Our Lord, 2020. | ||
| Let's make sure I got the right dates. | ||
| Historic. | ||
| Yes, last night, 2 May, is going to go down from people in politics of where you were when you first heard the leak. | ||
| We're live. | ||
| We're going to go to, in front of the Supreme Court, we've got Father Frank Pavone from the Priests for Life. | ||
| We also have Mike Davis from Article 3. | ||
| They're going to join us here momentarily, but I want to go to the Supreme Court and Neil McCabe from the Star News Network. | ||
| Neil? | ||
| Put us in the room there. | ||
| What's happening outside the Supreme Court right now? | ||
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Yeah, Steve, it's a carnival atmosphere here at the Supreme Court. | |
| It was a little slow going a few hours ago, but now those competing protesters that you hear... Anthony, why don't you swing over and show us what they're doing over here. | ||
| We've got the pro and anti-abortion protesters are sort of going at each other. | ||
| You know, we're just sort of waiting to see how big this thing gets. | ||
| I haven't seen any lawmakers around or any prominent leaders, but right now it's like it's almost spontaneous. | ||
| People just showing up to say, hey, what's going on? | ||
| It's really kind of a shock, like you were saying. | ||
| I mean, I saw the headline last night, and I couldn't believe it. | ||
| It's been almost 50 years that this decision has put this curse on our country, and it's really remarkable if the Supreme Court actually goes through with it, Steve. | ||
| Neil, last night they only had about 500 to 1,000 total outside, but it did get violent after a while. | ||
| As the two competing groups became personal. | ||
| What's the sense of the crowd right now? | ||
| Are they just protesting and doing the chanting like it normally happens? | ||
| Or do you think there's any possibility this thing could edge into some sort of violence? | ||
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Yeah, I haven't seen any black-clad Antifa yet. | |
| Or, you know, I saw, say, the violence that we saw during Kavanaugh and Gorsuch. | ||
| And I would tell you that the violence we saw last night on the pro-abortion side, I think that's just out of sheer frustration because they have lost control of the narrative and they've lost control of the Supreme Court that they've literally controlled for probably 60 or 70 years, Steve. | ||
| Neil, there's discussion about there's bus, they're going to be busing in Planned Parenthood and other groups are getting revved up here, maybe even some of the right-to-life groups. | ||
| What are you hearing about additional protests that it would expand to the size of like the Kavanaugh protest? | ||
| Because right now it looks fairly small given what we've seen before in front of the court. | ||
| What are you hearing about other resources being put to this to bus people in this afternoon? | ||
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Well, I think the first thing, Steve, is that when the German media outlet Politico, when they leaked this last night, they weren't working or coordinating with other groups. | |
| You and I have both seen these demonstrations of the Supreme Court, especially when the left is doing it, and they show up with the boxes of signs and posters, everything already delivered. | ||
| They have the buses lined up. | ||
| I haven't seen any of that yet. | ||
| And so, you know, they're fired up. | ||
| It's just that it takes them a while to get their troops here. | ||
| I am absolutely convinced that this crowd will continue to build because this is such a significant and almost traumatic decision that the Supreme Court is going to deliver if they go through with it, Steve. | ||
| Last night in the crowd, it was about two-thirds pro-abortion, about one-third pro-life. | ||
| Is the breakdown now 50-50? | ||
| Or as you just see it, rule of thumb, is it still two-thirds, one-third? | ||
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Yeah, I think right now you'd have to say that the anti-abortion side is really showing up. | |
| I would say it's two-thirds pro-life and one-third pro-abortion. | ||
| There's one group here, they're basically Catholics for abortion. | ||
| They're really the only pro-abortion side that's here. | ||
| I haven't really seen any students for choice or Planned Parenthood yet. | ||
| It makes me wonder how the left is going to react to this. | ||
| You know, have they just given up the ghost? | ||
| I'm hoping that we see a fulsome and robust debate here. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, it is not, trust me, they're not giving up the ghost. | ||
| Neil, you hang there, we'll come back to you. | ||
| That's Neil McCabe of Star News Network, the great Michael Patrick Leahy group. | ||
| Thanks, Neil McCabe. | ||
| Okay, I want to go to, we've got Father Frank, we've got Mike Davis. | ||
| Mike, I want to bring in the former Solicitor General of the United States there on Morning Joe. | ||
| The buried lead, I want everybody in this audience to understand this. | ||
| The very lead is full-throated in muscular decision. | ||
| So I said this on the John Frederick Radio Network earlier. | ||
| I need everybody in the War Room posse. | ||
| I need Captain Bannon and the team right here to get the political article up last night. | ||
| Everybody should read the political article because it's going to be historic. | ||
| Because they got this leak, but it clicks through to the 98-page decision. | ||
| Everybody in the audience, don't read articles about it, don't take Father Frank's word for it, or Mike Davis's, or Steve Bannon, Neil McCabe, anybody we're going to have on the Great Leisure, we're going to have a lot of people talking about this. | ||
| You need to read this, and you need to think about it, and you need to read it again. | ||
| It's one of the most important documents that have ever come out of the Supreme Court. | ||
| It's the first opinion ever to be leaked, and we're going to talk about the politics of that. | ||
| But the former Solicitor General, who said he cried all night, so he's not a fan of this, a full-throated and muscular decision. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, this was a power move. | ||
| I mean, and I want to bring in Father Frank and Mike. | ||
| Mike, you first, and I'll bring in Father Frank. | ||
| How unusual is it Of what happened last night as an institution to have this draft opinion, which is circulating among the other justice, leaked to the media, sir? | ||
| So I clerk for Justice Gorsuch. | ||
| I serve as the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee with oversight over the federal judiciary. | ||
| I have never heard of a draft opinion leaking from the Supreme Court ever. | ||
| This is probably the first time that this has happened, likely the first time this has happened. | ||
| This is a very dangerous precedent to set. | ||
| It's very dangerous to judicial independence. | ||
| It's very dangerous to the safety of judges, to these justices with this court pending on this monumental case. | ||
| You have a lot of radical people out there who have a lot on the line with the abortion industry. | ||
| You just, you cannot have opinions leak like this. | ||
| So the, the Supreme Court needs to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| The, there is a, there's an officer at the Supreme Court who's called the marshal of the Supreme Court and the marshal is responsible for all law enforcement, including running the, uh, the Supreme Court police force. | ||
| The Supreme Court actually has its own police force. | ||
| They need to get to the bottom of this immediately. | ||
| If they have to deputize federal agents to assist this internal investigation, so be it. | ||
| Uh, but they need to get to the bottom of this. | ||
| And if they find out if and when they find out who leaked this, they need to refer this to the Justice Department for obstruction of justice charges. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Uh, and by the way, real quickly, should Senate judiciary hold a hearing immediately about this and what happened here, sir? | ||
| I want to be careful on that, and the reason is that the Democrats control the Senate Judiciary Committee, and I think they're going to try to politicize this, right? | ||
| and the Supreme Court has to... | ||
| A short break, we'll be back in a minute. | ||
| ...spread the word all through Hong Kong. | ||
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We will... | |
| ...out of here. | ||
| Why the f*** did he attack them? | ||
| Get the f*** out of here! | ||
| Get the f**k out! | ||
| Get out of here! | ||
| Run away! | ||
| Okay, last night was a fracas outside the Supreme Court in the early morning hours. | ||
| It started right as soon as this was leaked to Politico. | ||
| And I want to thank, by the way, the authorities got up there and they surrounded the Supreme Court with fences put up, barricades were put up immediately. | ||
| So, good on the Capitol Police and others that were up there. | ||
| It didn't get as serious as it could have gotten, let's say that. | ||
| But both sides went at it, and I want to correct Neil McKay for a second. | ||
| It was that the right-to-life folks gave as good as they got. | ||
| Let's put it that way. | ||
| There was no backing down. | ||
| But this is serious, and you've got to be very careful. | ||
| And I think today, they've really got to make sure that both sides can protest to the heart's extent. | ||
| This is obviously an incredibly emotional issue, and people got the right to protest in this country. | ||
| So one of the, you know, the freedom of assembly is a basic right. | ||
| People have the right to do that. | ||
| They have a right to protest, but they ought to make sure people are up there to make sure this doesn't turn violent, which it very easily could, given the emotions. | ||
| Also, given the age, a lot of young people, last night were young people. | ||
| They're very emotional, and they're not holding back. | ||
| And that's both sides, so I don't want to pretend that the right-to-lifers are, like I said, they gave as good as they got last night. | ||
| I want to bring in Father Frank Pavone, a priest for life. | ||
| He's dedicated his life to this issue. | ||
| We've had him on for many times to talk about this full-throated and muscular decision. | ||
| Father Frank, you're probably the top expert in the Catholic Church about this. | ||
| Was that a full-throated and muscular decision that Justice Alito allegedly has drafted here, sir? | ||
| It very much was, Steve. | ||
| I have it here, and it is really a great articulation of the arguments that were made to the court in this whole Dobbs case. | ||
| For example, he starts out by pointing out that Roe v. Wade's asserted right to an abortion is nowhere in the Constitution. | ||
| Now, the other side will say, well, there are a lot of rights that are not actually mentioned in the Constitution, but there's still constitutional rights. | ||
| Then Alito goes into the fact that in those cases they have to be rooted in the history and traditions of the country. | ||
| And he does a stellar job in this opinion, this draft, of going through the history. | ||
| From the colonial days, in fact he starts with the common law. | ||
| Over in England, the colonial days, the 19th century codification of common law norms, including the protection of the unborn. | ||
| And then he destroys the myth in Roe v. Wade that says, oh, these laws weren't passed to protect the unborn child. | ||
| They were passed because of Victorian views of sexuality. | ||
| And he says, no, court decisions and legislatures make it clear it was to protect the unborn child. | ||
| And then he says, where in the history Then he goes to the 14th Amendment and says, you know, the other side says, oh, this is a liberty interest in the 14th Amendment. | ||
| And he says, when the 14th Amendment was adopted, three-quarters of the states were protecting the unborn throughout pregnancy. | ||
| And abortion was nowhere considered some kind of constitutional right. | ||
| So he says, where in the history of the country? | ||
| Of its judicial decisions, of its laws, where is this so-called constitutional right to abortion? | ||
| And he says, nowhere. | ||
| There is zero, zero evidence of it. | ||
| So he starts by going right to the heart of Roe and showing how untethered it is from the Constitution. | ||
| Then he goes further. | ||
| I just want to tell you one thing. | ||
| This just doesn't overturn Roe. | ||
| Judge Alito, with his massive intellectual firepower, destroys Roe's, the concept of Roe, the legality of Roe, all of it root and branch. | ||
| Is that not correct, Father Proven? | ||
| That is, that's exactly what I've been saying, Steve, since last night. | ||
| And the point is, too, that the, you know, Roe has a discredited history. | ||
| Cyril Means was the attorney for NARAL, which at that time was the National Association for the Repeal of Abortion Laws. | ||
| He's the source they use for the history and his views were unprecedented and since then have been debunked. | ||
| Roe's history is garbage and Alito goes into that very, very clearly. | ||
| Then we have the further destruction of this Roe and Casey framework. | ||
| Now Casey, as many of our viewers will know, came down in 1992 and was, many thought at that time it might reverse Roe, but it did not. | ||
| And yet at the same time it wasn't a ringing endorsement of Roe either. | ||
| It partially dismantled it. | ||
| But it gave us a new standard called undue burden. | ||
| And if our viewers don't know what that means, you're in good company. | ||
| Because nobody knows what it means. | ||
| It's undefined. | ||
| And it's inherently subjective. | ||
| Undue. | ||
| What is undue? | ||
| What is a burden? | ||
| Because the court has been saying for now since Casey, well you can't, the states can't pass a law, a pro-life law protecting the unborn if it poses an undue burden to women getting an abortion. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| What does that even mean? | ||
| And Alito goes into the fact that you cannot Tell what it means. | ||
| And that's why it has led to conflicting decisions both at the level of the Supreme Court and at the level of the lower courts. | ||
| There's a bundle of contradictions. | ||
| And so this draft opinion says it is time to overrule both Roe and Casey because the court is not giving us any constitutionally grounded guidance on what is constitutional or not when it comes to abortion. | ||
| Let the legislators decide what he concludes. | ||
| One thing I want to make sure our audience understands, because you don't have the left smearing this. | ||
| This is not shutting it down. | ||
| It's saying, in the structure of our republic, where this belongs is back to the people at a state level. | ||
| And each state should deal with it as they're going to deal with it. | ||
| Is that essentially the heart of his argument in sending it back to the state legislatures? | ||
| Right, that's exactly what it is, Steve. | ||
| You know, he points out that some states, you know, in this, he takes a broad view and says, look, we know that this is a contentious issue. | ||
| We know that people are trying, people and the courts and the legislatures, are trying to balance the interests of the life that is indisputably in the womb and the freedom that people indisputably have. | ||
| He points out That the decision of the courts regarding abortion is talking about a unique action. | ||
| This is not about freedom. | ||
| If abortion is rooted in some kind of general freedom, Alito says here, that proves too much, because then you can talk about the freedom to, you know, ingest yourself with all kinds of drugs, or prostitution, or any kind of freedom. | ||
| He says, no, no, no, that proves too much. | ||
| Abortion is a unique act, and both Roe and Casey acknowledge that. | ||
| It's a unique act because it ends a life. | ||
| So it's not just an exercise of freedom, it's an ending of a life. | ||
| Therefore, you have to balance interests here between freedom and life. | ||
| The challenge Alito puts here to Roe and Casey is this. | ||
| Where and how do they get the idea that it is the court that is best positioned to balance those interests? | ||
| Instead of the American people Working through their elected representatives, having hearings, battling it out in the legislatures, having amendments, passing laws, revising laws, repealing laws if necessary. | ||
| That's the arena where this has got to be worked out. | ||
| So Steve, the court, because the other side is going to try to convince us of this right now, the court is not imposing a solution to the abortion debate. | ||
| The court is saying the place where the solution has to be found is not here with us. | ||
| It's with you, the people. | ||
| And this, Steve, reminds me of what, as we know so well, what President Trump said when he first took office at his inauguration. | ||
| He said, this is not just about the transfer of power from one party to another. | ||
| It's the transfer of power from Washington to the people. | ||
| This draft decision is explicitly saying that this is a transfer of power from the courts to the people and through their elected representatives. | ||
| Father Frank, we're going to ask you to come on and actually break this down in the days ahead. | ||
| This is important. | ||
| But for the next 24 or 48 hours, how can people get to you and what do you anticipate is going to happen? | ||
| What's the best way people can have the backs of the pro-life forces? | ||
| Well, we have a special website called SupremeCourtVictory.com. | ||
| People can read about this case in great detail, watch videos, understand it. | ||
| I think, Steve, I want to echo what you said at the beginning of this show. | ||
| Read this draft decision. | ||
| The fact that it was leaked is not good. | ||
| But the decision itself is very good. | ||
| Read it, and then read all the other commentary. | ||
| And that's how you can help us and back us up, because we're going to have to get the word out there. | ||
| SupremeCourtVictory.com, and then people can connect with me directly at FRFrankPavone on all the major social media sites. | ||
| Okay, and Father Profound, we're going to get to you and work it out. | ||
| I think for the War Room Hour, either webinar or on our six o'clock show, we need Father Frank to break, we want to put it up and actually break this down. | ||
| I want everybody to read it, but then we're going to go and he'll do a more detailed assessment. | ||
| This is one of the most important decisions in the history of the Supreme Court in the history of our nation. | ||
| And so we need to handle it with care. | ||
| Father Frank, thank you for the great fight that you have fought for, what, four or five decades. | ||
| So thank you very much for coming on here. | ||
| You too, Stephen. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Father Frank Pavone of the Priests for Life. | ||
| Okay, we've got a jam-packed show. | ||
| We've got an all-star cast of experts. | ||
| We're going to get Liz Short, Terry Schilling, Mike Davis is co-hosting with me. | ||
| We've got Monica Crowley, Stephen Mosher, Chris Ruffo. | ||
| It's packed, wall-to-wall. | ||
| We're also going to talk about Ohio. | ||
| Boris is going to come on and give us an update on the Ohio election today. | ||
| It's wall-to-wall. | ||
| In the War Room, but just strap in. | ||
| It's a landmark day in Washington, D.C., the imperial capital. | ||
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| I want to get we got Liz your I got Mike Davis. | ||
| I got Stephen Mosher. | ||
| I got hitters and we're going to go back to my cave as soon as there's more action from the Supreme Court. | ||
| We really hope everybody stays peaceful day. | ||
| You should protest to your heart's desire. | ||
| Understand. | ||
| This is very emotional. | ||
| I understand it's very emotional on the pro-abortion side and this I'm sure is a shock to them. | ||
| What's really a shock, and I'll get to Mike Davis in a second, the full-throated and muscular decision, the person saying that, the gentleman saying that on Morning Joe he opened with was a former Solicitor General of the United States and he said he cried all night. | ||
| This is a powerful opinion, and like I said, this is not my line of country. | ||
| I need everybody to read it. | ||
| Father Frank's already agreed we're going to do some one-hour or two-hour webinar. | ||
| We're going to go through in detail so you understand it and understand the legality and how important this is, but you've got to read it yourself and embrace this. | ||
| Liz Jour joins us. | ||
| She's under some time pressure here. | ||
| Liz, give us your assessment of last night, this opinion, and where we stand in all this. | ||
| Well, Steve, you know, I was weaned on hardball Chicago machine politics and this smacks of a preemptive strike by the Marxist left. | ||
| And frankly, they're always two steps ahead of us. | ||
| This is the last attack on the last enduring institution of our beloved republic. | ||
| And it's the oldest Alinsky tactic, which is to seize the narrative. | ||
| And that's what they're doing by this illegal leak. | ||
| By this theft of a Supreme Court decision. | ||
| And you know, the left has successfully undermined all of the institutions of this great country. | ||
| Elections, the education system, the military, the rule of law, the criminal justice system, women's sports and churches. | ||
| And so why wouldn't they hijack this court with this kind of lawlessness? | ||
| This was a premeditated assault, a theft to foment violence. | ||
| To undermine the Supreme Court and the five majority opinion justices. | ||
| You know, we have procedures and policies in place to maintain peace, continuity, truth, and they are shattered and chaos is replaced when the procedures are not followed. | ||
| Now, I promise you that this thief And the Supreme Court, whoever he or she is, already has a lawyer, the Marxist left already has its talking points, as we saw before. | ||
| Bernie Sanders already is talking about a federal law to codify Roe v. Wade. | ||
| They're also talking about packing the Supreme Court. | ||
| And, you know, the emphasis must be on the substance of this decision. | ||
| And we have to recognize that they are trying to corrupt the process. | ||
| But interestingly, isn't it, the timing of this decision? | ||
| Kamala Harris is going to be addressing EMILY's List, the pro-abortion funders, tonight. | ||
| And so I guess they finally have found a job for our vice president. | ||
| And she's going to be banging the drumbeat of abortion in Roe versus Wade. | ||
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So, this is... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, right there. | |
| Hang on, hang on, right there. | ||
| There's no conspiracies, but there's no coincidences. | ||
| In Washington D.C. | ||
| tonight is the big gala for Emily's List, which is the power move. | ||
| They're the massive donors. | ||
| They're the Kochs of abortion rights. | ||
| The Vice President is going there to address it. | ||
| Do you believe that the timing of this... Because the person that did it could have picked any timing, because the opinion is not going to be out until end of June, early July. | ||
| Do you believe it was timed? | ||
| Well, there are no coincidences. | ||
| I'm absolutely convinced that this is the raising of money, as if Planned Parenthood and the abortion lobby doesn't have billions at their disposal. | ||
| and put it into the pro-abortion fight. | ||
| Well, there are no coincidences. | ||
| I'm absolutely convinced that this is the raising of money, as if Planned Parenthood and the abortion lobby doesn't have billions at their disposal. | ||
| Now, this is about the end of justifying the means. | ||
| And leaks are okay if they expose the right. | ||
| Leaks are okay. | ||
| And by the way, you'll recall that Chief Justice John Roberts presided over the impeachment of Trump. | ||
| And you remember he would not allow the naming of the leaker in the Trump impeachment case. | ||
| And so, additionally, I would say the FBI that has blown the Hunter laptop investigation, that has blown the Olympic investigation of the women's gymnastics team, where at least 70 additional women were abused because they did not properly investigate that case. | ||
| I would say, certainly, the U.S. | ||
| Marshal's Office, which runs the Supreme Court, has some of the best polygraphers I'm in law enforcement. | ||
| They should be in charge of this investigation. | ||
| They know the Supreme Court. | ||
| This is their bailiwick. | ||
| And I think politically, this is what they're up to. | ||
| This is going to be a huge distraction to the implosion of the Biden administration, the inflation, what's going on in the border. | ||
| And it's an attempt to peel off The soccer mom vote, which has come into the Republican column, and they're going to try and sway them back to the party. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| This is a political move. | ||
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100%. | |
| 100% political. | ||
| By the way, the other leak, remember, a second biggest leak, I think, in Supreme Court history was Breyer's That leaked immediately. | ||
| That's the reason you got Judge Jackson now instead of the hearings in the summer was because of that. | ||
| It's anarchy and chaos at the Supreme Court. | ||
| Let's just be blunt about it. | ||
| Those conservative justices, the Trump justices, are like in Saigon in 1968. | ||
| You can't trust anybody. | ||
| They can't trust anybody. | ||
| They certainly can't trust their other justices and people on the staff, etc. | ||
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Who leaked that and who leaked this? | |
| And so you're saying the U.S. | ||
| Marshals, not the FBI, you're saying the U.S. | ||
| Marshals should immediately start to investigate this, Liz? | ||
| Yes, I've worked with him on missing kids cases, on child exploitation cases, on major cases. | ||
| They are the cream of the crop. | ||
| They're not always begging for money. | ||
| They work hard and they are humble. | ||
| They keep their nose down and do the job. | ||
| This case, everybody should be polygraphed at the Supreme Court to get to the bottom of who leaked this. | ||
| This is a theft as far as I'm concerned. | ||
| And to me, this is more chaos in the streets, which is what the Marxists want. | ||
| They want to create chaos to disrupt this republic as if we haven't had enough chaos in the last year. | ||
| So, you know, this is what's going on politically behind the scenes. | ||
| They thrive in chaos. | ||
| They think they're going to intimidate people. | ||
| They're not going to intimidate people. | ||
| Liz, how do people get to you during the day? | ||
| You're gonna be putting up comments. | ||
| We'll try to get you back on tonight and tomorrow. | ||
| You're gonna ride shotgun with us on this. | ||
| How do they get to you and for your commentary and analysis during the day? | ||
| I'm on all platforms at Elizabeth Your. | ||
| My website is yourchildren.com and yes, I'll be posting and heads up, there's more machinations by the Marxist left. | ||
| This is just the beginning. | ||
| Okay, we've got to get Liz, you're up. | ||
| Liz, thank you very much. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
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Thank you, Steve. | |
| Okay, Bob, is McCabe still up? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Let's go to McCabe. | ||
| I hear it's heating up outside the Supreme Court. | ||
| I ask all my guests, we're going to have to do some juggling today, so just bear with us. | ||
| Let's go to Neil McCabe outside the Supreme Court. | ||
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Hey Steve, things are really heating up here. | |
| There are more and more cameras and more and more people. | ||
| Neil, hang on, just give me a sweeping, not that I don't love your visage, just give me a sweeping view with your camera of what the crowd looks like. | ||
| Hey Anthony, give him a pan. | ||
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Neil, tell us what's going on there right now. | |
| The real action, of course, is the competing demonstrations. | ||
| And what you're seeing is the main pro-abortion group is the Catholics for Choice, and then the main pro-life group is Students for Life. | ||
| And what's happening is the Students for Life Well, here's the question. | ||
| Are there authorities out there? | ||
| demonstrations shouting them down, singing them down, and really driving them off the field. And just a few minutes ago the Catholics for Choice had to sort of walk off and they're now they're now regrouping for their next assault, Steve. | ||
| Well, here's the question. Are there authorities out there? | ||
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Are there people out there that are that are there to make sure these two groups don't tangle too much? What they recently did about five, ten minutes ago is they set up some more of those bike rack barricades to create sort of a left and right But what's happening is most of the action is actually on the side that we're on. | |
| And so there's police presence, but things haven't gotten violent yet, Steve. | ||
| Okay, we'll come back to you, Neil, just keep us informed of everything that's going on. | ||
| Thank you very much, Neil McCabe. | ||
| Go ahead, is Doug up? | ||
| Let's go to Doug Mastriano. | ||
| Colonel Mastriano is running in a Republican primary, tough Republican primary, for the governorship of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | ||
| Colonel, first off, your assessment as governor, give us your assessment of Judge Alito's draft ruling, which would really send power back to the state legislatures, which you're part of in Pennsylvania to make decisions here about abortion, sir. | ||
| It would happen in 73 when it became a federal decision and a federal issue, I think was not constitutional. | ||
| So this is writing the ship and instantly 18 states that when this is adjudicated and finally, you know, the last votes are in June or whatever comes out, this will put the power back in the hands of all 50 states and 18 of those states already have legislation to limit or restrict abortion greatly, which Pennsylvania is one of them. | ||
| Tell us how this is going to impact this decision, because right now you see the crowds gathering outside the Supreme Court. | ||
| MSNBC kind of forgot, like they forgot COVID. | ||
| All of a sudden, Ukraine's off the, you know, 24 hours a day, Ukraine's off, and they're now focused on this. | ||
| What impact do you believe this is going to have in the overall race? | ||
| And where are people in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania? | ||
| Where are their heads right now, the citizens there, on this very important and vital issue? | ||
| Well, you know, and I've been upfront with this, Steve. | ||
| As a new senator three years ago, one of my first pieces of legislation, if not my first piece of legislation, was introducing the heartbeat bill together with Representative Stephanie Borowitz in the House, mirror legislation. | ||
| And we had a big announcement rally for that back three years ago, and that's been our push. | ||
| But as far as how this plays out politically, it's really kind of hard on my rivals since I'm the most pro-life guy out there and actually have legislation to back it up in the voting record to prove it. | ||
| Uh, right now they're trying to distract by, you know, calling me names and, you know, fake conservative. | ||
| I mean, just, it's, it's, Steve, I gotta tell you what, uh, spending my life in the United States Army for 30 years, and, and, you know, you were in the United States Navy. | ||
| We do act with, with a bit of integrity, or try to anyway. | ||
| There's just a code of conduct in politics. | ||
| It's all gone. | ||
| And I'm really sick and tired of these politics and these politicians willing to lie to get a vote. | ||
| This is hurting them. | ||
| They're running a lot of nasty ads, but now it's focusing back on the issue here of life. | ||
| And it's funny, in 1776 in Philadelphia, when we declared our independence from that king, it was all about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. | ||
| So we're back to basics here and things that matter. | ||
| Colonel Mastriano, how do people follow you and how they get to you on social media and follow your campaign as they see these attacks in your responses? | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Go to Doug4Gov.com, D-O-U-G 4, number 4, gov, G-O-V dot com, and all the details you need to know about me are out there. | ||
| Colonel Mastriano, I think you're a pretty tough guy. | ||
| I think you'll be able to take the incoming. | ||
| I'm just betting on that. | ||
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I've got my money that you can take the incoming. | |
| Tough enough, let's say that. | ||
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That's a real barn burner in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. | |
| It's a real barn burner. | ||
| Okay, short break. | ||
| Monica Crowley, Stephen Mosher, Mike Davis, all next in The War Room. | ||
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War Room, pandemic with Stephen K. Bannon. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, we've got live coverage outside the Supreme Court all over the group of experts today to go through this monumental opinion. | ||
| As the former, what is it, Obama solicitor general said, it is a full-throated and muscular decision. | ||
| It is a full takedown of Roe v. Wade. | ||
| And I mean, it goes root and branch and absolutely crushes it. | ||
| I need everybody in this audience to read the opinion. | ||
| Father Frank is going to come back either tomorrow or we'll figure it out on some webinar and we're going to do a complete hour to deconstruct it so you're actually more up to speed, but you must read this and you must read this today. | ||
| Okay, that's your assignment. | ||
| That's your task. | ||
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Let's go. | |
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| Terry Schilling joins us from Americans' Principles Project. | ||
| He can't be on Skype because he's at the hospital picking up, guess what, a newborn baby that he just had, I think, last night. | ||
| Terry Schilling, tell us, where are you right now? | ||
| Walk through. | ||
| It's full serendipity that you're picking up a newborn for the Schilling family, sir. | ||
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Yeah, that's right, Steve. | |
| And you know what's interesting is this little baby girl, we named her Abigail Josephine, Abby Jo. | ||
| She was born a whole month early, so it's almost like she wanted to come to witness this historic event. | ||
| Both mom and baby are doing great, by the way. | ||
| But listen, this is an interesting time to be an American. | ||
| I mean, we've never seen this type of underhanded betrayal of trust. | ||
| At the Supreme Court. | ||
| I was explaining this to a reporter from the AP this morning. | ||
| The Supreme Court is like the Vatican, but for U.S. | ||
| constitutional law. | ||
| There is this unspoken agreement and this unspoken trust between the justices. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you're far left or far right. | ||
| You have to be able to trust confidentiality, and that these opinions don't get leaked out of the press, because you have to work together to get to some common ground. | ||
| There's just so much betrayal here. | ||
| These justices don't know which clerks to trust. | ||
| They don't know which justices to trust. | ||
| It's absolutely chaotic. | ||
| And ultimately, Steve, I think that the reason they did this was to increase their chances of winning in the midterms. | ||
| One thing that's not getting covered in the press right now is that just yesterday Planned Parenthood and the abortion movement announced that they would be spending $150 million in the midterm on abortion rights. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And that happens the same day that this is leaked? | ||
| I don't think that's a coincidence. | ||
| No. | ||
| But by the way, they can spend all the money they want, it's not going to make a difference. | ||
| We have to get to the ramparts, but this is a throwdown now. | ||
| Terry, how do we get to American Principles Project and your social media? | ||
| I know you're putting updates on it constantly. | ||
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Well, one thing that I'm encouraging people to do is to post on your social media your children, like a picture of your babies, right? | |
| and say, this is why we should overturn Roe. I did that last night and it's getting a lot of play, a lot of action. You can find me on Twitter, Getter, everything at Schilling1776, and you can find us on the web at AmericanPrinciplesProject.org or SaveTheFamily.app. | ||
| By the way, I agree with you about collegiality, of collegiality that the justices have to have. | ||
| That's been shattered. | ||
| But please, don't compare to the Vatican. | ||
| I mean, the mess that the Vatican is. | ||
| But that's a topic for a different day. | ||
| Terry Schilling, thank you very much for calling in. | ||
| And Abigail Josephine, I'm glad she's here to have her back. | ||
| I'm glad she's here early. | ||
| The cavalry arrived early, so thank you, sir. | ||
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The big family got bigger, Steve. | |
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay, let's go to Monica Crowley now. | ||
| We got Monica Crowley, Stephen Mosher. | ||
| Monica's got to bounce. | ||
| Monica, institutionally, this leak last night, obviously planned by the radical Marxist left. | ||
| What does this tell you about the state of our institutions, ma'am? | ||
| Well, I think, Steve, that we are witnessing the deliberate destruction of all of our institutions. | ||
| This has been going on by the Marxists left for many decades. | ||
| So it didn't originate last night with this outrageous and unprecedented leak. | ||
| It's been going on a very long time. | ||
| And what everybody needs to understand is, you know, this is not the Democratic Party of Bill Clinton, JFK, and even FDR. | ||
| This is now a party of Marxist revolutionaries. | ||
| And they have done this long march through our institutions In order to destroy us from within. | ||
| You'll recall, Steve, that in the 1930s, it began as a KGB operation to try to overthrow the United States from without. | ||
| And when they realized, when America's enemies from abroad realized that our Constitution and our country were so durable that that was going to be impossible, they changed their tactics and they began like termites to eat our institutions from within to the point now where so many of them are on the precipice of collapsing. | ||
| What you saw last night with this leak was engineered. | ||
| It's completely orchestrated in order to engineer this political agenda going into the midterms. | ||
| We saw this now because they want to mobilize all of the left's armies to burn the country down again, just as they did prior to the 2020 election. | ||
| They're looking for another pretext. | ||
| They found one here with the abortion issue. | ||
| And I expect another summer of love, you know, mostly peaceful, Steve. | ||
| Yeah, we had Monica book to talk about the breakdown of demographics and how we're running the tables and destroying the Democratic Party. | ||
| Monica will have you back on to do this. | ||
| I want to make sure everybody, Monica, how do people get to your podcast? | ||
| How do they get to your social media? | ||
| How do they get to your writings? | ||
| Well, thank you, Steve. | ||
| I'm on Instagram at Monica Crowley underscore on Twitter and truth social at Monica Crowley. | ||
| and of course I'm the host of the Monica Crowley podcast where we will be talking about all of this, the ruling class, the Marxist revolutionaries and so on all week. You can go to wherever you get your podcasts, every platform, Apple, Google, Spotify, Stitcher, type in the Monica Crowley podcast. It's right there. Please subscribe. It's free. And follow me there because these issues for the country are existential. | ||
| I've been talking about this for a hell of a long time, Steve. | ||
| But now the moment of truth has arrived. | ||
| It does seem like there's a cultural shift where the energy is shifted and we, our side, the side of good, the side of freedom, is now winning. | ||
| But it requires all hands on deck. | ||
| So thank you so much for having me and for talking about my podcast. | ||
| We're Ascendant. | ||
| You've got to watch this podcast. | ||
| She's on fire. | ||
| We're going to have her back on. | ||
| We had a whole thing to walk through about how we're Ascendant and how we're going to do this. | ||
| Remember, this was all planned. | ||
| They leaked this on purpose. | ||
| Monica is absolutely right. | ||
| They were on the mat and they need something to revive themselves. | ||
| This is not going to do it. | ||
| This is going to be a failed effort, but it's only going to be a failed effort to put our shoulders to the wheel. | ||
| Michael Crowley, thank you very much. | ||
| Okay, Chris Ruffo, Steven Mosher, Mike Davis. | ||
| We've packed in the second hour. | ||
| We're going to jam it all in here in the War Room. | ||
| Just strap in. | ||
| 90-second break. | ||
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| We rejoice when there's no more! |
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