April 26, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Donald Trump was out on the campaign trail this weekend speaking at a rally for Ohio Senate candidate J.D. | |
| Vance. | ||
| As has become the norm for him, the former president took the opportunity to rehash his 2020 loss and repeat his lies about a stolen election. | ||
| And while Trump was in Ohio, his presence was felt all the way down in Georgia during the first Republican primary debate for governor there. | ||
| That ended up being a lot about the last election. | ||
| Things got heated last night when Trump-backed candidate, former Senator David Perdue, called Governor Brian Kemp a weak leader and accused him of not fighting in the wake of the 2020 election. | ||
| Did you call a special session? | ||
| Did you stop the consent decree, Governor? | ||
| I didn't have anything to do with the consent decree. | ||
| Of course you didn't. | ||
| That's why you failed. | ||
| You should have stopped it. | ||
| You were on the primary ballot after the consent decree was signed. | ||
| You never said a word about it. | ||
| Of course I did. | ||
| Until you lost the election. | ||
| Of course I did. | ||
| Well, we were riding on the bus when I was campaigning for you in the runoff. | ||
| Governor, you can yell all you want, but you did not stop the consent decree. | ||
| When I was campaigning for you in the runoff, did you ever ask me about having a special session? | ||
| Of course I did. | ||
| No, you lied about it. | ||
| For more on where the GOP is ahead of the midterms, I'm joined by NBC's Vaughn Hilliard, our man on the Trump beat. | ||
| So, Vaughn, Trump was at one of these midterm election events this weekend in Ohio, but as you saw, his presence was kind of hanging over this event in Georgia. | ||
| What do you make of these two events in tandem, and what do they tell us about the Republican positioning going into the midterms? | ||
| Right, I think the fact that those two ever rode on a campaign bus together is quite something to think about now. | ||
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They won't again! | |
| That's for sure. | ||
| We should expect at least one more debate out of Georgia, but after last night I think it made it clear, Garrett, that this is essentially going to be a real testament to Donald Trump's strength and the strength of the big lie within the Republican Party. | ||
| You have incumbent Brian, incumbent governor Brian Kemp in Georgia. | ||
| Who certified to Donald Trump chagrin the 2020 election. | ||
| Now you have David Perdue who started off by the debate last night by saying this was a stolen election here. | ||
| And what you are coming to in these next 30 days is not only the Georgia race with its primary May 24th, but you've got the Ohio primary on May 3rd in which Donald Trump has endorsed J.D. | ||
| Vance. | ||
| You have the May 17th primary in Pennsylvania in which Donald Trump has endorsed the likes of Dr. Oz. | ||
| Essentially, what we're going to get to over the next 30 days is really an answer to the question of, does Donald Trump still have that dynamic influence to ultimately sway voters to vote for his candidate? | ||
| OK, welcome. | ||
| It's the afternoon edition of War Room Monday, 25 April, Eurovoter 2022. | ||
| We've got two hours here of packed energy and intensity. | ||
| Elon Musk, the big headline this afternoon, Elon Musk has signed a definitive purchase agreement It's not like Goldman Sachs in the old days. | ||
| I mean, they didn't really get much of a bump in price on Elon's initial offer. | ||
| It's not anywhere near, I think, the $70 a share that it traded for. | ||
| down in Georgia last night and other political news. | ||
| It's not like Goldman Sachs in the old days. | ||
| I mean they didn't really get much of a bump in price on Elon's initial offer. It was and it's not anywhere near. | ||
| I think the 70 dollars a share that it traded for Twitter trade for that on 4th on July 5th of last year when Getter opened Boris and I think it's been as high as seventy three dollars a share in the last 12 months. | ||
| I don't know how you sound a founder's opinion at less than where stocks traded for in its last 12 months, unless it's got a business model that is just is a complete reset in a disaster. | ||
| I think this is extraordinary that Musk did this quickly and did it for Not a lot over his initial bid, Boris Epstein. | ||
| It's a huge development, Steve. | ||
| It's a major development, and it's a statement about the weakness of Twitter, the strength of Elon Musk, and also, let's be honest, the strength of Donald J. Trump. | ||
| Because why do you think that share price is as low as it is? | ||
| Because they don't have the most powerful voice in the world on the program. | ||
| And that's why they're, you know, really remember, Twitter was dying. | ||
| Before, President Trump rescued it as he was preparing to and then ran for president from 2012 on. | ||
| So, without President Trump, Twitter was a completely dying business model. | ||
| He rescued it. | ||
| He brought it to some level of relevance. | ||
| And now, without him, what I think you're seeing in that share price that is so significantly lower than its recent high, less than a year ago high, is a statement that they don't see Twitter being nearly as valuable as it has been in the past. | ||
| Now, let's see what Elon Musk does with it. | ||
| President Trump came out today and said he's not going to rejoin Twitter, that he's going to stick with Truth Social, his own social media platform. | ||
| So there's a lot still to unfold here. | ||
| But to take the 30,000-foot view here, Steve, this is also a major development for MAGA. | ||
| It is a statement that MAGA, national populism, freedom are on the rise all across the world. | ||
| You saw that yesterday in France. | ||
| Yes, Macron won because a bunch of people over 70 carried him over the finish line. | ||
| But national populism won with everybody who's young to middle-aged in France. | ||
| You saw it in Michigan where MAGA candidates, Trump-endorsed candidates won at the GOP convention. | ||
| You are seeing it all across the world that MAGA-based national populism is on the rise. | ||
| And it's on the rise because of the weakness of the woke radical left and the strength of true, honest conservatism. | ||
| Let's talk about Georgia and this debate last night. | ||
| Perdue vs. Kemp. | ||
| What's your first takeaway? | ||
| Heat. | ||
| Good on David Perdue, as they say down south. | ||
| Good on David. | ||
| He came in hot, he came in strong, and he brought the heat to Brian Kemp. | ||
| Brian Kemp was on his back foot the whole time. | ||
| And the fact that they campaigned together, and they're all buddies, and Brian Kemp's pretty much saying, well, you used to be my friend, and we're buddies, why are you running against me? | ||
| And David's saying, hey, you messed up on the election, on the consent decree, and then you stabbed MAGA in the front and the back. | ||
| A fire and heat from David Perdue that I think a lot of folks haven't seen before. | ||
| So he did very, very well yesterday, and it's good for him that this debate happened. | ||
| And the more debates there are, the more face-to-face there is, and the more contrast there is between him and Brian Kemp, the better David Perdue is going to do on May 24, and the potential runoff to come after. | ||
| Let's talk about on 24. | ||
| Do you think Kemp agrees to any more debates after he got mauled last night? | ||
| Don't you think he just says, hey, you're dishonest, you're misrepresenting my record, and I'm not going to debate you anymore? | ||
| Well, if he doesn't agree to any more debates, he's going to look so weak and so scared. | ||
| And we know folks in Georgia, they don't stand for that. | ||
| Especially not MAGA. | ||
| It does not stand for that. | ||
| President Trump is going all out for David Perdue. | ||
| I'm supporting David Perdue. | ||
| MAGA is supporting David Perdue. | ||
| We're doing all we can to make sure David Perdue wins that election because Brian Kemp Mark Elias is the sole worst actor on our side. | ||
| Mark Elias is a Dem. | ||
| He's a Lib. | ||
| We expect that from them, okay? | ||
| But what Brian Kemp and Raffensperger and others over there did is absolutely traitorous. | ||
| Traitorous to the MAGA movement. | ||
| And it's vital that David Perdue wins it. | ||
| So, if Brian Kemp tries to run, I think he'll be embarrassed and shamed if he tries to run for more debates. | ||
| But if he has more debates, he's going to have a major problem because David Perdue is going to continue to wipe the floor with him. | ||
| Brian Kemp's got quite a Gordian Knot. | ||
| Why is it taking Purdue? | ||
| Last night you saw fire. | ||
| It's the first time he's really engaged in, I think, into the three November issues. | ||
| Why? | ||
| And of course the mainstream media folks should know this because we monitor it. | ||
| We know so you don't have to. | ||
| They're in vapor lock about how this debate went last night. | ||
| Why did it take Purdue? | ||
| We're a month away, right? | ||
| Why did it take Purdue so long to get this and put this front and center in this race? | ||
| Steve, I think part of it is coverage. | ||
| We know that nobody outside of the War Room Posse, this show, MAGA, under the leadership of President Trump, want to focus on this rigged and stolen election of 3 November, which is exactly what David Perdue called it. | ||
| So part of it is coverage. | ||
| And part of it, David Perdue is a smart guy. | ||
| He's been in politics a long time. | ||
| And by the way, I want to say this very important note. | ||
| David Perdue was a major surrogate for us in 2016. | ||
| He was a big part of that win for us. | ||
| He really went out there. | ||
| Even when a lot of others ran for the hills, David Perdue did not. | ||
| He stuck with us. | ||
| And I have not forgotten that, and I know you haven't either, Steve. | ||
| And yes, do we wish that David Perdue would have come in with this kind of fire during the runoff in 2020? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But we see fire now, we see heat now, and we see an absolutely stark contrast between David Perdue and Brian Kemp. | ||
| Some of them say, well, you know, they're so similar. | ||
| They are not similar. | ||
| And you saw that on the stage last night. | ||
| And David Perdue completely out-muscled Brian Kemp. | ||
| They were in different divisions last night on that stage. | ||
| Look, Stacey Abrams, you know what she's going to run on the whole election? | ||
| That's her specialty. | ||
| That's all she's got. | ||
| That's all she brings. | ||
| How do you have a candidate Other than David Perdue. | ||
| And I'm not talking about Camp's record and other topics related to the governance of a state. | ||
| But my point is, this is going to be front and center. | ||
| This is what Stacey Abrams, her whole, I'm going to run for president one day, is all built around this issue of voting, right? | ||
| That is what she's known for. | ||
| She was just another, as Vernon Jones tells us, she was just another You know, average legislator in Georgia for years until this came up and all of a sudden she caught fire. | ||
| It's her topic. | ||
| I mean, I don't know how you run a campaign, particularly to get all of MAGA out. | ||
| That incremental 5% that you have to get that we saw in Virginia was so essential. | ||
| How do you do that for folks in Georgia? | ||
| How do you do that? | ||
| Was David Perdue's not the guy? | ||
| You don't. | ||
| David Perdue is the only choice. | ||
| The only choice to go up against Stacey Abrams. | ||
| He's the only choice to win that governorship. | ||
| And just like Gordon is the only choice for AEG, and Jody Heights is the only choice for Secretary of State. | ||
| But the most important is that gubernatorial race. | ||
| That one is top of them all. | ||
| And as we talk about the 60 days of pain, in terms of the primaries, they're all vital. | ||
| And it's so important to back President Trump's candidates. | ||
| The May 24th, Perdue vs. Kemp is the first among equals. | ||
| It is the most important, because again, we talked about this. | ||
| In Ohio, all the leading candidates are MAGA. | ||
| In Pennsylvania, Oz and McCormick are talking MAGA, right? | ||
| Here, you have one candidate in David Perdue who is MAGA, who's gone out and said that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen, and then you've got Brian Kemp, who enabled I would say for everybody in Georgia, too, there's two basic questions, Boris, that people have wanted Kemp to answer. | ||
| So it's the clearest contrast we've seen and that is why it's so vital. | ||
| It is so vital for all of MAGA to get behind David Perdue and teach Brian Kemp a lesson and have a strong candidate going up against Stacey Abrams in November of 2022. | ||
| I would say for everybody in Georgia too, there's two basic questions, Boris, that people have wanted Kemp to answer. | ||
| And last night, and this is for the Kemp supporters, he just didn't have an answer for it. | ||
| The consent decree. | ||
| To kind of say, well, I'm not really in that chain of command. | ||
| That's not going to wash. | ||
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Okay? | |
| I don't need a legal technicality, and that's what it is. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| And the other thing is, he puts a point blank. | ||
| Why didn't you want to call a special session? | ||
| And with Kemp's best comeback? | ||
| Well, I was on the campaign bus for you for a month, two months. | ||
| You never brought it up. | ||
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It was the number one political topic in the country. | |
| In the country. | ||
| Right? | ||
| I don't understand their logic of how they think they're going to get power through this. | ||
| They must think the 3 November movement and the Trump-MAGA base is just going to look the other way. | ||
| And I've got to tell you, count on these guys. | ||
| This is what's going to happen, and this is what we said to McConnell and these guys back in the runoff. | ||
| You've got to convince and make the argument to MAGA that their vote's going to count and you're going to show up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right now, Kemp, and correct me if I'm wrong, Boris, I'm trying to not be too partisan, a Trump partisan, or a MAGA. | ||
| I'm just talking about the logic, and it's so vitally important to win this governorship. | ||
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There's no way Brian Kemp can see it. | |
| There's no way. | ||
| That's where I want to get to. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Tell me why. | ||
| That's the bottom line. | ||
| Because MAGA's gonna stay home. | ||
| Okay, say you even get a third of MAGA to come out for Brian Kent, which isn't gonna happen, but say it does somehow miraculously occur. | ||
| He still gets trounced by Stacey Abrams. | ||
| You have David Perdue, and MAGA comes out in full force in a red wave year. | ||
| You send Stacey Abrams packing, she can complain for another four years about, you know, not losing the election that she lost. | ||
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But Brian Kim just doesn't have a shot. | |
| Your number is bigger than mine. | ||
| I say, hey, even if you got 80% in these races like this. | ||
| 80% of MAGA is not going to come out. | ||
| Every vote is going to count. | ||
| I'd say even if 80% came out, you lose 20% of MAGA, you're going to lose. | ||
| You're going to lose to Stacey Evers. | ||
| These are going to be so hotly contested. | ||
| This is why we keep saying every certifiable chain of custody legal vote of an American citizen That is registered to vote in that area has to count. | ||
| Everything else doesn't count. | ||
| And in counting those, it's going to be hotly contested. | ||
| You know, Dinesh and the team are going to have this, and True the Vogue are going to have this film out, I think, next week, or at least in some special preview. | ||
| And hey, in Georgia, there's going to be some pretty shocking footage, there's going to be some pretty shocking data. | ||
| Katherine Engelbrecht and the team have, first of all, they put a lot of money, it's a couple million dollars to get the data. | ||
| This has done great work, and it's going to be irrefutable. | ||
| It's going to be, basically, it's going to be the evidence irrefutable. | ||
| Boris, let's take a short break. | ||
| We've got to get through McCarthy. | ||
| I want Ohio. | ||
| We've got to talk about France. | ||
| And we've got a lot to get through in the next segment. | ||
| Let's take a short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to return. | ||
| Boris Epstein, we're going to go through some politics. | ||
| We've got a Twitter analysis by the great Darren Beattie. | ||
| Bernie Jones has got a live, he's got an event with President Trump tonight, an online event. | ||
| He's going to be here to tee it all up in the great state of Georgia. | ||
| So we've got a lot going on in the first hour of Orbs. | ||
| Be back in a moment. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K Bannon. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
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| Okay, members of the engine room and also Boris and others were on me about these afternoon bread bowl habit I'd gotten back into. | ||
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| Hello, producer. | ||
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| Okay, do we have France? | ||
| I want to bring Boris in. | ||
| Is France ready yet? | ||
| Okay, let's play. | ||
| I want to play the analysis of France. | ||
| And we'll get Boris Epstein's analysis of this. | ||
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Excusez-moi, how are you feeling? | |
| Very excited, all good. | ||
| It's a good future. | ||
| I'm very disappointed because I really think that she will win. | ||
| It's going to be the same old mess, getting worse and worse. | ||
| I think he needs to listen to the people of France because if he doesn't, Le Pen or the next one may win and it will be very dangerous for the country. | ||
| So, Katie, what this election really has spotlighted is that polarisation here in France. | ||
| Same way as there, same way as in so many democracies around the world. | ||
| In the end, President Macron won, and as they say, to the spoils go the winner. | ||
| But there are concerns that, you know, for example, President Macron looks a little like a kind of moderate island in a sea of turmoil. | ||
| In five years' time, What will the political picture be? | ||
| And will the far right gain more votes, as they have been, over presidential election after presidential election? | ||
| But, you know, five years in politics is a long way away, Katie. | ||
| Before then, President Macron has to address key issues here in France, like inflation and the pressure on families, and that fundamental global issue, what to do about the war in Ukraine. | ||
| Very disgruntled people across the world, not just here at home, clearly in France as well. | ||
| People who feel like they've been left behind. | ||
| They feel like they're the lowest priority. | ||
| Donald Trump was able to see Look, who knows? | ||
| I think that's an example of a broader question for Twitter, which is, if you... Okay, go ahead. | ||
| We can't jam five together. | ||
| We'll just do one at a time. | ||
| Boris, I want to go back to you. | ||
| They start talking there. | ||
| I think it's under 59 years old. | ||
| Le Pen, as they call the far-right nationalist, won over 51% of the vote. | ||
| It was only the elderly that bailed out Macron. | ||
| That's why they're not spiking the football over there, not just the June elections that are coming up. | ||
| They understand that as everywhere here in the United States, where you're going to be a Russian serf, right? | ||
| In Italy, in Spain, in Germany, young people are not buying this neoliberal, neocon model, are they, sir? | ||
| No, they're done with it. | ||
| They're done. | ||
| They turned it off. | ||
| They have no interest in it. | ||
| And McCrone is the last of a bygone breed. | ||
| Because the voters, the young voters all across the world, the next generation, they're no longer interested in being fed this liberal, neocon, combined, uniparty nonsense. | ||
| And yes, I'm using terms that we apply in the U.S., but they apply all across the world. | ||
| Why would the people of France want to vote for somebody who's obsessed and goes over and hangs out in Ukraine? | ||
| You think France doesn't have enough problems? | ||
| Let me assure you, it absolutely does. | ||
| Why would the people of France vote for somebody who's obsessed with the economic issues in Greece? | ||
| Let me break it to you, they don't. | ||
| Why would they want to vote for somebody who doesn't want to have borders and wants to have all kinds of migrants coming in and settling in Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux and other cities? | ||
| Let me break it to you, they don't. | ||
| What we've seen here, remember, Brexit happened before the 2016 election. | ||
| It was Brexit, 2016, which President Trump historically won, 2020, which he also won, and now all of these waves of elections are showing you, in America and all across the world, that The heart of the electorate is done with the Uniparty, is done with the combined neocon neoliberal construct. | ||
| They want their country first. | ||
| America first here, France first over there, Britain first in Great Britain, and all across the world. | ||
| And look what happened, look what just happened in Europe. | ||
| Oh yeah, oh and Hungary, yeah, sure, Orbano's gonna be gone. | ||
| Wrong! | ||
| Wrong! | ||
| In the Balkans, same thing. | ||
| The leaders who fight for the strength of their people and the strength of their countries are the ones who succeed and survive. | ||
| Those who want to worry about multinationalism and globalism and let's all kiss and hug and all that nonsense, they're gone. | ||
| They're gone. | ||
| They're gone across the world and they're gone here in the United States. | ||
| Remember, Macron had to, uh, he's been the head of the de-escalation party. | ||
| The United States and Fox News and MSNBC and all the former military guys that got all hands in the trough. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| They're the escalation party. | ||
| It's been embarrassing what's happened with the United States for the last couple days. | ||
| Funneling more arms. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Now they're talking victory. | ||
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It's insane. | |
| Now they're talking victory. | ||
| Victory is actually, they want to drive the Russians out of Donbass, and they want to drive them out of Crimea. | ||
| Ask the folks in Maripol. | ||
| How's that working out for them? | ||
| All these, all these big talking. | ||
| They're sending a couple of, you know, shoulder-to-air missiles. | ||
| Okay, let's play, talk about the lack of fight. | ||
| Let's play Kevin McCarthy. | ||
| We've got chalk talk from Cortez on some numbers. | ||
| Now we'll get Boris's opinion. | ||
| Patriots, the events of recent days have further revealed that Kevin McCarthy is both dishonest and disloyal, and he should be ousted from Republican leadership for reasons of philosophy as well as principles. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
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It's also a politically easy calculus. | |
| For those numbers, let's get to Chalk Talk, brought to you by Getter. | ||
| Now, this is McCarthy polling using the RealClearPolitics National Polling Average. | ||
| He is the least popular national political figure in America. | ||
| His approval rating is only 24.3%. | ||
| That's a few ticks below Mitch McConnell, who comes in at 24.8. | ||
| Both of them are actually hugely below Nancy Pelosi, believe it or not, who herself has a dreadful 35% approval rating. | ||
| Here's the thing, Patriots. | ||
| It is important that we demand for America First. | ||
| Leaders who demonstrate courage, authenticity, and know what time it is in America. | ||
| For that reason, these Washington sewer dinosaurs, they have to go. | ||
| Boris Epstein, your analysis of the heat's died down a little bit over McCarthy in the last couple days. | ||
| Other things have popped up. | ||
| Your assessment of where we stand with that? | ||
| I think where we stand is that this is going to continue to be a tough time, tough sledding for leader McCarthy. | ||
| Again, as I said last week, is there an opportunity? | ||
| Is there a window? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| And he's at the border, I believe, today with MTG and Elise Stefanik. | ||
| And it's important to pay attention to the border and to bring more focus to it. | ||
| But politicians have to have a base, right? | ||
| And the base is MAGA, which is now 95, 99% of the Republican Party, or it's some establishment McConnell world that doesn't exist. | ||
| So I think what remains to be seen, Steve, and again, exactly what I said on Friday, is if Kevin McCarthy and his team do the right thing, which is back MAGA candidates, back candidates who President Trump has endorsed, then there's absolutely an opportunity To move forward in the first bid for the speakership. | ||
| But if you continue to back Nancy Mays and Herrera Butler and others, that's going to be a major problem. | ||
| And that's a bigger problem than the leak of a tape. | ||
| But the issue of the tape is this, is that it confirmed to a lot of MAGA what they think is said behind closed doors. | ||
| And that's why Liz Cheney did so much damage, not just to Kevin McCarthy, but really to everybody in the GOP establishment about whom there have been questions from the MAGA base. | ||
| So, like I said, Kevin McCarthy right now has an opportunity, and that opportunity is to take action, action, action, to continue making a huge focus down at the border, and also to back blood-red MAGA candidates. | ||
| As long as that happens, yes, there's absolutely a way forward and a path forward for a speakership bid. | ||
| Boris, how do people get your morning newsletter? | ||
| How do they follow you? | ||
| Steve, no doubt about it. | ||
| BorisEP.com is the website. | ||
| We're coming in hot on the website, BorisEP.com. | ||
| Hot on Getter at BorisEP. | ||
| On Twitter at BorisEP. | ||
| On Truth Social at Boris. | ||
| And of course, the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Congratulations to the War Room Posse on all the wins. | ||
| In Michigan, MAGA wins. | ||
| DiPerno, Karama, others, Lena Epstein. | ||
| So many wins in Michigan and all across the world. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| I'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to have Christina Cuomo at the top of the hour, too, from Michigan. | ||
| Huge win there. | ||
| Big, like you said, we started the show with this debate last night in Georgia. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Vernon Jones joins us now. | ||
| He's got an event with President Trump tonight. | ||
| Vernon, we've got you for a minute here. | ||
| We're going to hold you through the break, and then Darren B is going to join us also. | ||
| Vernon, tell people real quickly, what event do you have with President Trump tonight, and how did they get to it? | ||
| Well, I'm in the middle right now of the 10th Congressional District. | ||
| I'm here in Oconee County. | ||
| We're having a big rally tonight at 7 p.m. | ||
| You can go to bernardjones4georgia.com and get all the information you need to log on tonight. | ||
| It's a big teller rally. | ||
| Let me tell you, I'm honored to have President Trump's endorsement. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| America First's agenda is winning around the country, and certainly winning around the globe. | ||
| There's no globalism now. | ||
| People want to put their country first. | ||
| President Trump had it right from day one, and that's why, Steve, he made it clear that I'm his choice for the 10th Congressional District to be The one that carry forth the America first agenda because I'm a fighter. | ||
| I do put America first. | ||
| I believe in agenda. | ||
| President Trump has set the stage on how we can make America great again. | ||
| And we get ready to make America great again, again, when we take the house in 2022 and when president Trump comes back in 2024. | ||
| Okay, Vernon Jones is at a rally. | ||
| We're going to hold him through the break and we're going to ask him about Twitter. | ||
| We're also going to ask him about Brian Kemp's performance last night at his debate stage. | ||
| And we've got the great Darren Beattie at Revolver. | ||
| Darren has kind of called this shot from day one. | ||
| In fact, it was Darren's articles, I think, that maybe even got Elon Musk a little interested in taking a look under the hood at Twitter. | ||
| We're going to talk all about it. | ||
| Darren Beattie from Revolver. | ||
| bernie jones running in the tenth in georgia all next in the world the the War Room. | ||
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| Okay, Vernon Jones has got to be shoving off, so I'm going to go back to Vernon. | ||
| Vernon, just real quickly, Kemp's performance last night, we started the show with David Perdue all over him about not calling a special session, of signing the consent decree. | ||
| Is there any way Kemp can actually match up with Stacey Abrams, or should we just end up bench pressing him given his disastrous performance on the 3 November election, sir? | ||
| His arms are too short to box with Stacey Abrams. | ||
| And by the way, maybe he didn't sign that settlement agreement, but he was well aware of it. | ||
| He's a former state senator, former secretary of state. | ||
| He knew that executive branch could not usurp the powers of the legislative branch. | ||
| And that is changing the election laws. | ||
| He knew that. | ||
| And David should have tied that around his throat and just choked him with it. | ||
| Not in a physical way. | ||
| I mean that, I don't mean that, but yes, he had him on the ropes. | ||
| He let him off. | ||
| Um, Stacey, as carrying the weight right now. She has the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, all the liberal media with her. As a matter of fact, the liberal media right now is with Brian Kemp. They're trying to help Brian Kemp defeat David Perdue. They're all in this. | ||
| I mean, they're in the love fest with Brian Kemp right now. But the minute that primaries over, if Brian Kemp prevails, they're going to turn around and they're going to drop Stacey Abrams all over him and going to smash him. Real quickly, your thoughts on Twitter, sir, and what it means to the conservative movement in MAGA? Let me tell you, there's a meltdown right now with the liberals and And for us MAGRA members, those of us who want free speech, this is a good day for us. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| I got to tell you, today, Elon Musk is my number one African-American. | ||
| Vernon, Vernon, how do people find out about the rally tonight? | ||
| I want everybody that can go on the tell us how they can't be there to go. | ||
| So how do people go and how do people find this? | ||
| They can go to jonesforgeorgia.com. | ||
| That's jonesforgeorgia.com. | ||
| We're right at the end here. | ||
| You know, our election, early voting starts May 2nd. | ||
| The election day is May 24th. | ||
| So I need everybody, every patriot right now to just go online, donate, contribute, be a part of this movement. | ||
| Let's take back our country. | ||
| And I am so proud to be with Donald Trump tonight in this tele-rally. | ||
| It's going to be awesome. | ||
| Vernon Jones, thank you very much for taking time away before your rally to join us tonight. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| President Trump there with Vernon Jones tonight. | ||
| Okay, can we play? | ||
| We don't, you know what? | ||
| One thing, we do a lot of cold opens here. | ||
| We have a lot of Rachel Maddow. | ||
| We have a lot of Joy Ann Reid. | ||
| We've got some Chris Hayes. | ||
| We try to get some CNN folks in there. | ||
| We don't have enough Brian Stelter. | ||
| I just made that comment the other day. | ||
| We don't have enough Brian Stelter. | ||
| Kidding. | ||
| Let's go ahead and play the cold open for our next guest. | ||
| Look, who knows? | ||
| I think that's an example of a broader question for Twitter, which is, if you get invited to something where there are no rules, where there is total freedom for everybody, do you actually want to go to that party? | ||
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| And that's a question for Twitter users. | ||
| Some Twitter users might love the idea that there's going to be absolutely no moderation and no rules at all. | ||
| Others might not want to be anywhere near that. | ||
| Am I crazy, Matt? | ||
| No, no, you're right. | ||
| And what happens to the advertising? | ||
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| What does that do to the business prospects for Twitter itself? | ||
| Darren Beatty, in what world do we live in which Brian, somebody invite Brian Stelter to a party? | ||
| Darren Beatty, I want to tee this up. | ||
| Darren Beatty's great pieces early on, I think got at least some of the guys around Elon Musk who go to Revolver, kind of interested in what was happening over Twitter, sir. | ||
| Yeah, well, this is a tremendous development, more than I would have expected. | ||
| And I am cautiously optimistic at this point. | ||
| There are a lot of details that we don't know. | ||
| And so in the midst of the celebration, which is great, we still need to figure out what the agenda is, what exactly are the kind of Uh, free speech protocols. | ||
| What's the free speech agenda that Elon Musk has in mind? | ||
| And if he actually does intend to implement it, which he's shown every sign of wanting to do, how do things work when the regime starts to really throw what it has against him? | ||
| Some of the dirty tricks that we Mention in the revolver news piece the original now classic revolver piece That's up right now at the top of the site at revolver news So what happens when the regime starts to pull out all the stops and throw the kitchen sink at him? | ||
| Would you be open to be an advisory board member here? | ||
| Not a main board member, but if they set up an advisory board about actually how to run moderation, how to balance, right, all the needs of a commercial entity to do this, would you be open to that? | ||
| Absolutely, I'd be open to it. | ||
| And just to address the Brian Stelter, who's a clownish and ridiculous figure, but as long as you played the clip, I think it's worth addressing I don't think anyone expects, and probably few people imagine, a totally chaotic environment where everything, no matter how obscene, is allowed. | ||
| My understanding is currently Twitter allows pornography and a bunch of things. | ||
| This is about allowing for a full spectrum of speech on what is effectively the global public square, and what's outrageous now and what | ||
| Stelter's ridiculous characterization, I think, deliberately obscures is the fact that on the major key issues of our time, you're not allowed to have a range of opinions on the global public square, whether it's COVID, whether it's immigration policy, whether it's gender issues, whether it's even now, the Ukraine, Russia, issue is a lot of accounts presenting a narrative that contradicts what the United States State | ||
| Department and the bunch of crooks whose interests are aligned with it. That isn't allowed on Twitter effectively. So I think what's crucial is not that we allow every obscenity. What's crucial is that on the key topics of our day, there's a range of opinion that's allowed for people to intelligently deliberate over it. In fact, that's the presupposition of an actual functioning democracy, is that you have citizens who are allowed to engage and | ||
| deliberate on important matters of the day, geopolitically and domestically. | ||
| Walk people through, I want to make sure everybody understands the nomenclature here and understand your theory of the global public square and how it is absolutely essential, in your opinion, of shaping meta-narratives that are so important about how the world operates today. | ||
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| And so Twitter is the de facto global public square. | ||
| And what that means is, this is the epicenter of narrative formation, narrative dissemination, where all the thought leaders, influencers engage in discourse from journalists, to celebrities, to captains of industry. | ||
| It is the stage on which public diplomacy is now conducted. | ||
| And the arena Of what the national security folks called hybrid warfare. | ||
| It is in fact so important to all of these dynamics that shape the way that people process and understand and think about reality. | ||
| That it's you can't put a number on that. | ||
| That's so instrumental to maintaining power over a populace that it's it's just you can't put no matter how many billions of dollars to the national security state and to all of the major stakeholders In our present regime, it's, in my view, would be unacceptable for there to be free speech. | ||
| And that's why I anticipate if Elon's actually intending to do this and to go forward with a real free speech agenda, not some kind of fake consolation prize stuff, but a real free speech agenda, he's going to be in for the fight of his life. | ||
| And he better be prepared for what's coming. | ||
| I want to make sure people understand this so so you're saying he closes on this transaction and when he starts trying to execute or implement to basically make it a more of a free speech which immediately you'll be flooded with alternative ideas or different ideas and Twitter's head about. | ||
| The hard drive from hell. | ||
| What's happening in Ukraine. | ||
| The Wuhan lab. | ||
| I mean, we could go on and on. | ||
| The 3 November movement. | ||
| All the stuff that's essentially banned right now. | ||
| And I could go through 50 more topics of interest throughout the world. | ||
| All the, everything dealing with wokeism. | ||
| You believe immediately the apparatus, the empire has got to strike back? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And there is an extremely robust and ruthless machinery that exists in order to attack People in these situation we've seen this machinery operationalized in the aftermath of The George Floyd incident with all the George Floyd riots the BLM movement. | ||
| We've seen the machinery operationalized in relation to Ukraine Russia Propaganda, we know what this machinery looks like and we've seen it against Trump, of course And this machinery is going to be dialed up to 11 Uh, if, if Elon goes through with this free speech agenda, because the way that the regime is currently set up is simply incompatible with a free speech public square. | ||
| It's an existential threat in the most literal meaning of the term when it comes to, uh, the regime and its major stakeholders. | ||
| So they're not going to take this line down. | ||
| I want to give people just two examples of people that on this this audience that see it Dr. Malone on Joe Rogan and what happened with the with the quote-unquote hamburgers group and that Washington Post in the New York Times about the hard drive or the laptop from hell. | ||
| Now if you've been up if you've watched this show. | ||
| From the very beginning, from January 2020, when we switched from impeachment to pandemic, that's January 2020 over two years ago. | ||
| And he started seeing Malone and guys like that come up in the winter and spring and summer of 2020. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then you saw the hard drive from hell that we put up in what, September, October 2020. | ||
| That's a year and a half, two years ago. | ||
| Rogan has Dr. Malone on. | ||
| And he just said the other day they got two million new subscribers through that Dr. Malone. | ||
| And then they just break the hard drive. | ||
| These are things that this audience sees all the time. | ||
| But we've been kicked off every social media platform in the world talking about 3 November, talking about these very topics. | ||
| YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, banned forever, in perpetuity. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I could give two Fs, right? | ||
| Doesn't care. | ||
| The show's bigger now than it's ever been. | ||
| Because great kind of fun it's audience. | ||
| But for the other audience, Dr. Malone and Rogan was like a straight shot of oxygen. | ||
| And so was the Hunter thing. | ||
| This is what the apparatus is not set up for, Darren Beattie. | ||
| Once you flood, once you get the zone flooded with all these stories, all this context, all this data, all this information, once the revolver, what's on revolver every day is out there, there's no way they keep control and they can't win. | ||
| They will never let that happen. | ||
| Is that correct, Darren Beattie? | ||
| Well, they'll do everything they can to stop it, but it remains to be seen. | ||
| I think this is one of those things. | ||
| In 2016, there was basically one person in the country who could have pulled that off, and that was Donald Trump, who had the various attributes that would have been required to win in that fashion. | ||
| I think there's something analogous here, and that is that Elon Musk is really the only person positioned to pull this off. | ||
| He hasn't achieved it yet, but so far he's shown every signs of being serious, And being successful. | ||
| He's acquired it. | ||
| And so now the next stage is to implement the agenda. | ||
| And so we'll see how well he does it. | ||
| I really hope he's prepared for what's coming. | ||
| It's going to be an Armageddon situation if he really attempts to put free speech in the global public square. | ||
| This is a national security threat. | ||
| This is a declaration of war on the corrupt and illegitimate stakeholders of our regime. | ||
| Yeah, having been in the world of hostile takeovers, particularly raid defenses, Elon and his team ain't seen nothing yet. | ||
| Their fight's going to come after they close the transaction, not the fight beforehand. | ||
| As tough as that may be, their fight's going to come after. | ||
| Darren, please hold on. | ||
| A couple more things I want to go through. | ||
| FBI Director Wray's interview, 60 Minutes, I think 60 Minutes showed what a carcass it is. | ||
| Also, the issue of France. | ||
| Darren Beatty, founder, publisher, the genius behind Revolver News, with us in the War Room next. | ||
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| Darren Beattie, yesterday in France, Very interesting. | ||
| You and I talk all the time about the modern American young person under 35 years old that's nothing more than a Russian serf. | ||
| You don't own anything. | ||
| You're not going to own anything. | ||
| You're just another cog in the wheel. | ||
| The young people of France think the same way. | ||
| I think it's under 59 years old. | ||
| 35 to 59. | ||
| I think they lost by 50. | ||
| Macron lost by 51 percent. | ||
| And in the youth vote, I think the highest proportion of people not showing up were people 18 to 35. | ||
| The only thing he overwhelmed people was over 60. | ||
| And that's this whole issue of pensions. | ||
| They want a stability. | ||
| And Le Pen did not make a strong case for her pension policy. | ||
| So she was overwhelmed by older voters. | ||
| No, it's remarkable to see both the power that the right has in France and also the intergenerational dynamics is clearly reflected in the election results there. | ||
| What it really shows is there's this divide. | ||
| Yes, there's the pensions and kind of Aspects of material security, but I think in a certain respect. | ||
| There's also just kind of different software The past is another country and in many cases the older generations are living in software shaped by their upbringing in another country and I think younger people who Don't know anything other than this dystopian Hell that really so much of the West has become Uh, that they're much more wise when it comes to certain political issues. | ||
| The ones that are lost are completely lost, but the ones were wise, um, are very good and potentially very effective. | ||
| So I consider this an auspicious, uh, result for what, uh, great things to come in France. | ||
| The Great 60 Minutes last night interviewed Chris Wray, and this was clearly a clean-up. | ||
| I'm sure the FBI comms department pushed this hard after the Michigan. | ||
| He wasn't asked any questions about the federal agents at 6 January. | ||
| He said it was a terrorist attack. | ||
| He wasn't asked anything about Michigan. | ||
| He's not asked anything about the hard drive from hell, or even the grunt dunes he's going over. | ||
| The big thing was China, but he's only arresting grunt dunes. | ||
| Your thoughts about 60 Minutes and about Wray last night? | ||
| Well, I mean, Ray is clearly a corrupt actor. | ||
| The whole exchange that kicked off Revolver's now sort of historic coverage of January 6th, the very first piece addressing this, we begin with an interrogation of Amy Klobuchar and Christopher Wray, where she says, don't you just kick yourself that you didn't have any agents placed in advance? | ||
| And he kind of cleverly evades answering her question directly. | ||
| Uh, because of course, he did have a bunch of agents, both in Michigan and as we now know, January 6th, although we don't know the full extent of it. | ||
| So there's certainly that aspect, but look, he's, he's a corrupt, uh, figurehead for an even more corrupt, uh, national security bureaucracy. | ||
| His job isn't to tell the truth. | ||
| His job is to obscure as much as possible from the American people. | ||
| So I think another dimension of this story is how he goes on a major news program, again, a legacy program, talking about the intergenerational aspect, only old people would watch something like 60 Minutes or think of it as important, but it's a legacy thing. And he goes on there, and presumably, we're still at least trying to maintain the pretense of having a free press. And so they have every opportunity to ask him anything. And as you point out, nothing even tangential to this. | ||
| Nothing about the absolute embarrassment that was the Whitmer case, that was a Fed infiltration and entrapment operation up the wazoo. | ||
| Nothing about what's now known as the Fed's erection, the January 6th narrative. | ||
| Nothing about the potential dangers of an agenda where they're resting on this notion of domestic terrorists in order to shove their political agenda down our throats. | ||
| Nothing about that. | ||
| And that just underscores why it's so important to have a free public square like Twitter. | ||
| Because you're not going to see real ideas exchanged and debated on something like 60 Minutes. | ||
| The only place you're really going to see that that's at scale is going to be something like Twitter. | ||
| So otherwise you're just going to get a bunch of trash like you saw in 60 Minutes. | ||
| Just trash and propaganda. | ||
| And Not even multiplicity when it comes to propaganda, just one side's propaganda, which is even worse. | ||
| If you talk about the color revolutions and what Ukraine in 2014 meant and what it means today, if you want to talk about the rise of the right in France and the rising populist nationalist movement worldwide, right? | ||
| If you want to talk about anything that's ahead of the curve, particularly the Twitter and Elon Musk, you go to Revolver. | ||
| That's why I'm so proud of what you've done since you left the White House. | ||
| It's been quite remarkable, and you're an extraordinary individual. | ||
| How do people get to Revolver, and how do they follow you, Darren? | ||
| Go to revolver.news. | ||
| If you haven't seen our classic Elon piece, warning him of what's coming, which is more relevant now than ever, go there right now, revolver.news. | ||
| It's up at the top, Battle of the Century, so check that out. | ||
| You can check Revolver out on Getter at revolvernews, and I'm on Twitter at Darren J. Beattie. | ||
| Darren, thank you so much for taking time away today from the editor's desk to join us. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Okay, we're going to be back in a moment in Battleground. | ||
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