April 9, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world. | |
| You don't want to frighten the American public. | ||
| France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans. | ||
| But you need to prepare for and assume. | ||
| Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China. | ||
| This is going to be a real serious problem. | ||
| France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on. | ||
| Health officials are investigating more than 100 possible cases in the US. | ||
| Germany, a man has contracted the virus. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus. | ||
| Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500. | ||
| We have to prepare for the worst, always. | ||
| Because if you don't, then the worst happens. | ||
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War Room. | |
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, welcome back. | ||
| We have the author of The Desecrators, Matt Schlapp, head of CPAC, head of American Conservative Union. | ||
| Matt, one more time, this is going to take place on the 18th. | ||
| It's the 18th of the 20th. | ||
| It's in Hungary. | ||
| You're going to take Candace Owens over and others. | ||
| You're going to have a lot of people from Hungary on there. | ||
| And this reinforces this landslide victory that Viktor Orban and the team had over there. | ||
| How do people find out more about it? | ||
| How can they participate? | ||
| What do they have to do to get signed up for this? | ||
| Steve, they just have to go to conservative.org, which is our everyday website. | ||
| Get the information on Hungary if they want to join us over there. | ||
| We also have CPAC Mexico coming up in September, which I think is going to have a very big impact on the domestic conversation there. | ||
| You're right, Candace Owens is going over with us. | ||
| It's going to be in Budapest. | ||
| You're going to join this counter-revolution to the idea that individuals and individual countries have the right to set their own rules. | ||
| Brussels can't set the rules. | ||
| The UN can't set the rules. | ||
| This is a movement that is growing, not shrinking. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| And the Desecrators. | ||
| How do people get the book The Desecrators? | ||
| I got it right here. | ||
| You go to desecrators.com. | ||
| How do I put it on the screen? | ||
| desecrators.com and read the story about the spiritual component of cancel culture. | ||
| Cancel is just about the politics of it, Steve. | ||
| This is a spiritual war that we're in in this country and we all got to wake up to it. | ||
| We got to wake up to it now. | ||
| Aggressively defending our values right now. | ||
| Matt Schlapp, thank you for taking time away on a Saturday to join us. | ||
| Thank you for having me on, Steve. | ||
| Okay, and we'll get to Ben Harnwell in a second, but I want to bring in our next guest, and we've got an upcoming discussion, a big crypto conference. | ||
| We've got Jeff DeVick down in Miami, we've got Ben Harnwell who's going to give us an assessment in Europe. | ||
| Also, there's breaking news out of Shanghai, but I've got to go to you. | ||
| Let's play the cold open. | ||
| We've got a very special guest here, and I want to make sure that we tee this up correctly. | ||
| Let's go ahead and get the cold open. | ||
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And I'm a cast member here at the, well for Disneyland actually. | |
| I've been with them for quite a long time and it's gotten very political. | ||
| And it's gotten very hard to be who you are. | ||
| It's gotten very hard to be someone who has conservative values. | ||
| Someone who believes in the right to choose. | ||
| Somebody who believes that it's okay to stand up for righteousness. | ||
| It is okay to stand up for righteousness. | ||
| And any Disney cast members that are afraid to be bold, that are afraid to be courageous, stand up! | ||
| It's okay! | ||
| You've got us all! | ||
| Okay, that right there was a fire breather, a conservative and a patriot who will not back down, Desi Damani. | ||
| Desi, thank you for joining us. | ||
| Walk us through, what's going on at Disney? | ||
| People know it as one of the most beloved companies in the country, Walt Disney, all the great, you know, taking some of the greatest fairy tales in Western literature and turn them into great movies, characters. | ||
| Tell us what's going on there. | ||
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Well, I would have to say the biggest thing is that there's cracks in the facade of the magic castle. | |
| It's there's a lot of stuff happening. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff happening behind the scenes that you don't see. | ||
| And then there's also stuff that's been publicly leaked that is happening behind the scenes. | ||
| And it really isn't a place that welcomes conservative values. | ||
| And yeah, I mean, people with religious vaccine exemptions are being told they can't do their job. | ||
| Um, and then we have the agenda being pushed to indoctrinate our kids into sexuality before they should even be learning about sexuality. | ||
| So it's, it's really interesting as a cast member with conservative Christian values. | ||
| Um, if you could even put those two things together, um, you can. | ||
| Uh, it's, it's interesting to be able to take a stand and it's really hard to take a stand at Disney vocally because you're seen as a bigot or a racist or a homophobic or insert whatever phobic thing there. | ||
| Um, so it's just time to take a stand and I don't want to be afraid anymore because I have other people and friends that don't want to be afraid to stand up. | ||
| Desi, I think the question people have is how does this happen and why does it seem like it's so aggressive? | ||
| It seems like this is actually what Disney stands for. | ||
| These are Disney's values. | ||
| Their folks are very upfront. | ||
| You know, every day they're going to fight DeSantis and this thing for the anti-grooming bill in Florida and parental rights and these kind of basic things that people would think were common sense. | ||
| I mean, most people, when they found out about the bill, The first thing people told me is, why does it not go all the way through high school? | ||
| There shouldn't be these conversations at all in school. | ||
| I mean, they're kind of shocked how limited the bill is. | ||
| But what the reaction has been, and Disney's just been so in people's grill about this. | ||
| How did that, as a cast member, how did that culture start to change? | ||
| And how did it end up being what it is today? | ||
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You know, I think it's a slow trickle. | |
| It's that frog that's in a pot of boiling water. | ||
| It starts off very slow, and then as the water gets warmer, The frog doesn't even know it's being boiled. | ||
| And I think that's what's happened. | ||
| I've worked with the company since 2001 on and off. | ||
| So I remember hiring in as a 17 year old and I don't remember it being explicitly gay or explicitly political. | ||
| To be honest, I think the boiling point came during 2020 when it was shut. | ||
| Because when I came back in 2021 after the pandemic and the reopening, it was definitely The political stance was way more apparent as a cast member. | ||
| And then if you watch anything, any of the programming, you can just see the programming has been slowly trickling, trickling the feed to kind of prepare people to make that this is the normal and it isn't the normal. | ||
| And I wish the legislation in Florida would go beyond the kindergarten, but it's a start and we can keep pushing as parents and aunties and Uncles and people that love innocence in children. | ||
| Children are innocent. | ||
| They deserve to have a chance to be children. | ||
| So, you know, it's like when that line was when I saw those videos leaked, I'm like, I can't do this anymore. | ||
| I'm an auntie of four kids and I have all of my friends have like the most beautiful children and to think of them by this company that I love that I've worked for for a very long time. | ||
| The keys. | ||
| But these aren't the core values of Disney. | ||
| The core value is safety, courtesy, show and efficiency. | ||
| And then they added inclusion. | ||
| So I understand their messaging is pushing more towards including things in their cartoons and their programming, but it doesn't have to be so extreme that it beats down people that disagree with that stance. | ||
| Would you say a large majority of the cast members have the basic core conservative values? | ||
| Or has this been overwhelmed with people with other values? | ||
| I mean, inside, I understand it's tough for you to talk about this openly a lot. | ||
| You're afraid to be fired. | ||
| But where does the majority of Disney employees stand? | ||
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You know, I would say I know a handful of people just in my area, I'm in entertainment, that are very conservative in their values and Nobody talks about it, because if you talk about it, you're seen in a negative light. | |
| People are afraid to lose their jobs, to lose their positions. | ||
| Entertainment is highly competitive, so if I say anything wrong, I'm taking a huge risk just doing this, but I don't care anymore. | ||
| I have friends that feel the same way that I do. | ||
| They know that they feel like they'll be bullied and backed into a corner to comply. | ||
| And we've been complying for a really long time. | ||
| I think a lot of people are okay to agree to disagree, and so we've been silent. | ||
| But in our being silent, it's like lions raised in the middle of sheep, and the sheep have bullied the lion into being a sheep. | ||
| And the lion really has a voice, but he hasn't used it. | ||
| And I think You know, that's why I'm here. | ||
| It's like, I want to encourage other people to use their voice and to not be afraid because we can all live together. | ||
| We can all include each other, but we don't need to exclude people that disagree. | ||
| So where do you take your fight now? | ||
| Are you going to be fired because you came out publicly? | ||
| Or how do you take this? | ||
| How do you continue this fight? | ||
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Well, I think this is a good starting point, being able to Talk about it. | |
| Um, I'm already on the fence with them because I applied for a religious exemption, which got approved, but then I was told I can't do my job or I can transfer to another department. | ||
| And my department is very highly competitive. | ||
| So if I leave, I leave and it's, it'll be difficult to get back in. | ||
| I don't know if they'll let me back in after this, but you know, um, it doesn't matter. | ||
| So I'm just going to keep raising my voice and writing letters, um, encouraging people to stand up and not be afraid. | ||
| I mean, money is, you can get a job anywhere. | ||
| And I don't, I'm, I don't believe in cancel culture. | ||
| Like if I get canceled, I get canceled because, you know, like there's something greater than me and I want to fight for the rights of the next generation. | ||
| And I want to fight for the rights of, um, religious people, Christian people, um, gay, straight, anybody that feels like their voice is being silenced because it's not just silent conservative Christians that are being, uh, silenced. | ||
| Sorry, I said silence a million times. | ||
| Um, it's, it's, Anybody that doesn't agree with the think-speak at the moment gets put in the corner, and I don't want to stand for it anymore. | ||
| I want to be an advocate for people to find their voice. | ||
| Desi, how do people follow you? | ||
| You on social media? | ||
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Yeah, I'm on social media. | |
| You can find me on Instagram at Dunamis Desi, as well as Twitter, Dunamis Desi. | ||
| Dunamis is the Greek word for power. | ||
| D-U-N-A-M-I-S Desi. | ||
| Okay, we'll put that up in all live chats, and we look forward to following you and having you back on, ma'am. | ||
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You're quite heroic. | |
| Awesome. | ||
| Thank you so much. | ||
| Thank you, ma'am. | ||
| Very empowering. | ||
| It's across the world. | ||
| It's across the thing. | ||
| Can we introduce Buggy first? | ||
| I'm going to get my red bug. | ||
| Is that a wig? | ||
| Your hair looks so good. | ||
| My sister, as everybody knows, was very ill with cancer and had a great... Growing my hair back. | ||
| She's tougher than I am, so... At first, I said, oh, I don't want to come on our show. | ||
| I knew that she would fire you up. | ||
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She did. | |
| Okay. | ||
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She did. | |
| Hey, War Room Posse, I'm back! | ||
| In listening to her, there's definitely an agenda. | ||
| I think you see it. | ||
| They're trying to normalize pedophilia and make it acceptable, and it's an agenda. | ||
| You see it with the Hunter laptop, with the Supreme Court justice. | ||
| You see it in schools, what they're teaching. | ||
| It's very, very concerning. | ||
| How do you tie the Hunter laptop to that? | ||
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Well, because of the pictures they... I think that's a fact. | |
| Possibly. | ||
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Okay, fine. | |
| You're not yelling at me on the phone that I'm not aggressive enough. | ||
| God, I get this. | ||
| Hey, for Media Matters, this is what I'm putting up with non-stop. | ||
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But I would say during this Holy Week, we all need to be in prayer specifically for discernment and spiritual courage. | |
| What she's doing, it takes spiritual courage. | ||
| Oh, to have a job you love at Disney. | ||
| It's how hard those jobs are and to stand up and know you're going to get fired. | ||
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And there's so many people that are petrified of getting fired. | |
| But God, if he closes the door, will open a window. | ||
| And I do think we as conservatives should have a pool of money that we could help fund these people when they lose their jobs or if they lose their jobs because they're scared to death to speak up. | ||
| But we need to help them. | ||
| We need to be there for them. | ||
| Do you think this is a time that people have to stand and be counted? | ||
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Yes. | |
| It's now or never. | ||
| It's now or never, right? | ||
| We had Sloan on last night from Carolina. | ||
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Carolina's a hot mess. | |
| You were the first one to point me out to social-emotional learning. | ||
| How it's deeper than just critical race theory. | ||
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Well, I have one more thing to say, if I can. | |
| I was here in June. | ||
| So I came in June and made people aware of SEL, which was the first time I heard. | ||
| Now I'm coming to tell you where some other ladies in North Carolina are looking to pull back the lens and trying to see what the ultimate goal is. | ||
| It is really, we think, a religion. | ||
| This is a religion. | ||
| They have the Awaken Schools Institute, which they launched in October 2021, and it's part of SEL. | ||
| And I think this is why they're taking Christianity out, because they're going to implement in the school system this new religion. | ||
| So that is my warning. | ||
| You may want to research, and I hope to be back one day when I'm more prepared. | ||
| And you give the details. | ||
| Remember, there's no conspiracies, but there are no coincidences, right? | ||
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Correct. | |
| No, you don't believe that. | ||
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You're giving me conspiracies. | |
| You're saying I don't do enough. | ||
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I do all the conspiracies. | |
| I don't do enough conspiracies. | ||
| Stay for the after show, and I'll go over all the conspiracies. | ||
| My sister's the one that's shocked. | ||
| Posobiec's never been the same. | ||
| He was so shocked. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're actually going to take a short commercial break. | ||
| We've got a lot more to get to. | ||
| We're going to go to Miami to talk about the Crypto Conference. | ||
| We've got a very special thing about the Masters. | ||
| Also, a young filmmaker is going to come in on a very controversial film about the beginnings of cancel culture. | ||
| You may not like the subject of the film, but it is the beginning of what happened in cancel culture. | ||
| So we're going to take a short break. | ||
| We'll be back in the War Room with Ben Harmon before we let him punch out and get ready for his show. | ||
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all next in the War Room. | |
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host Stephen K Banham. | ||
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| Okay, let's go to, I want to get Ben Harnwell. | ||
| I tell you, can we kill this mic for a second so I don't have the reverberation? | ||
| Thanks. | ||
| Not that I don't want to hear him talk again. | ||
| I'm already getting kicked off the new religion. | ||
| I got it. | ||
| Of course, the audience loves it. | ||
| Our distributors, maybe not so much. | ||
| Next time, bring some facts, okay? | ||
| Give me some receipts. | ||
| You got them? | ||
| You got them? | ||
| Don't cut the mic on. | ||
| We'll come back to her in the D-block. | ||
| We'll come back in the D-block. | ||
| Let's go to Ben Harnwell and Roan. | ||
| Ben, I want to talk about this live stream. | ||
| I want everybody to watch. | ||
| You've already done this amazing analysis of NATO and genocide. | ||
| How do people get to that, sir? | ||
| Thanks, Steve. | ||
| Yeah, it's on my getter feed, which is my surname is the profile. | ||
| At Hanwell. | ||
| At Hanwell. | ||
| But I think the War Room will be sending that out just when we've finished off air. | ||
| And it's just basically a few minutes. | ||
| I take a look at the very likely possibility, and you can see this looking at the toxins as they're sounding now, that NATO is going to use the pretext of genocide and war crimes to go into Ukraine. | ||
| And I expand on that argument. | ||
| I take a quick look at Yugoslavia, where NATO went in. | ||
| Certainly outside the Article 5 criteria but when NATO went in on the same basis 20 years ago. | ||
| If you give me a quick moment Steve, what I'd actually like to quickly talk about now, before you move on, is a really important story that we've been watching the International Bureau here for the last week. | ||
| And it's Shanghai, and I really don't want to come back to this COVID thing, because I remember when we were talking about the hemorrhaging virus, I was getting so many messages on GetIn to basically say, please just stop doing this COVID thing. | ||
| We're through. | ||
| We don't want any more. | ||
| We want to move on. | ||
| But if the facts are here and they're saying this, I've got to shine the torch on it. | ||
| And basically, so Shanghai is the financial capital of China's population of about 25 million people. | ||
| They've been shut down for a couple of weeks now. | ||
| On Sunday they had 9,000 cases. | ||
| Yesterday they had 21,000 cases on a single day. | ||
| The military has gone in and we've been looking at the photos and video footage of this on Getter over recent days. | ||
| The government's doing a nucleic acid screening of all 25 million people. | ||
| They've got 30,000 medics there and they're bussing off entire infected families to quarantine camps, up to hundreds of And the importance of this story Steve is this and it's to do with the Chinese economy. | ||
| This is so big what's happening. | ||
| Basically, if you look at the whole 23 Chinese cities, which are presently under some degree of lockdown, full or partial, that's like 195 million inhabitants, which contribute around a little over 20%, 22% of China's GDP. | ||
| And these lockdowns already are costing, on this latest outbreak, $46 billion a month. | ||
| So that's where we are. | ||
| And, you know, when we're given the importance of China's economy, when when China sneezes, the world is going to catch a cold. | ||
| And we are already extremely precarious with our national economies, what with two years of illegitimate lockdowns and the covid and now the Ukraine. | ||
| So this is a story that we're going to be watching on and we'll be covering this as it goes on. | ||
| When we started with the shifted from impeachment to pandemic in mid January of 2020, right? | ||
| Because we knew China, we knew something was happening in Wuhan, they were putting Wuhan in a quarantine or lockdown in Hubei province. | ||
| Hubei province is the size of France and Wuhan was bigger than New York. | ||
| Shanghai, and if you've ever flown into LA, that 30 minutes where you're just flying over the extended LA metropolitan area, multiply that by like, I don't know, four X, that's Shanghai. | ||
| Shanghai is one of the biggest real cities in the world. | ||
| It's not just a collection place. | ||
| This is a massive financial center. | ||
| It's one of the biggest cities in the world. | ||
| I think it's actually more important in China than Beijing, but it's debatable. | ||
| It is one of the great cities in the world. | ||
| And it's in total lockdown. | ||
| He's talking about the CCP's thing going around checking everybody with a test. | ||
| And look, Miles Guo and the great folks over at the New Federal State, they're hammering this every day. | ||
| They say this is not COVID. | ||
| They're blaming this on the vaccines. | ||
| They're saying, hey, remember, The Chinese were 99% vaccinated by the Chinese vaccine. | ||
| So there's all kind of questions of exactly what's going on. | ||
| We know that they have the military there. | ||
| They have this in lockdown. | ||
| There's all kind of videos we'll be putting up of people saying they can't get food, they can't go to the store. | ||
| It is a very dangerous situation and it's going to have a massive impact on the world economy like Shenzhen when they do this. | ||
| So you have this going around China, these different massive lockdowns. | ||
| And quite frankly, since they haven't opened up and we've never gotten to the bottom of the Wuhan lab, the PLA military biolab, it's still all up in the air. | ||
| Ben, how do people get to your Getter account? | ||
| Because you're going to be putting stuff up all weekend. | ||
| Yes, Steve. | ||
| It's simply my surname. | ||
| It's Harnwell. | ||
| At Harnwell. | ||
| And as you say, I'll be updating that with news and analysis and live streams. | ||
| Okay, thank you, brother. | ||
| Let's go to Miami now and to Mark Jeftovic, the crypto capitalist. | ||
| The biggest conference in crypto history just finished. | ||
| Peter Thiel, who's one of President Trump's closest supporters and really the biggest tech supporter he has. | ||
| Hey Steve, great to be here. | ||
| So this was a pivotal conference. | ||
| the end of fiat currency as a really enslaving people and really called out people. | ||
| Walk us through the conferences over now, except for the last day, which is kind of celebratory. | ||
| Walk us through what was the importance of the conference and how did this take digital currencies or crypto to the next level? | ||
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Hey, Steve. Great to be here. So this was a pivotal conference. | |
| I've been going to crypto conferences for quite some time now, being involved in the Bitcoin space since 2013. | ||
| 13. | ||
| And you hear the phrase increasingly more, Bitcoin's here to stay. | ||
| That's actually old news. | ||
| I was at a conference in 2017 and I realized Bitcoin is here to stay. | ||
| This conference made me realize Bitcoin is taking over the world. | ||
| Because central banks and governments and centrally planned economies are destroying their own currencies. | ||
| They're destroying the dollar, and Bitcoin is taking the monetary power back and giving it to the people. | ||
| There was an after-conference fireside chat between Jordan B. Peterson and Robert Breedlove, who's a big Bitcoin high priest. | ||
| He co-authored the book, Thank God for Bitcoin. | ||
| And they said that monetary integrity and moral integrity are inextricably linked, and that inflating the currency was anti-integrity. | ||
| It was anti-civilization, and that's what our central planners are doing with our currency today. | ||
| We know that Peter Thiel all but declared war on ESG and woke capitalism. | ||
| He called it the gerontocracy. | ||
| And there's still people who are saying, well, the government's just going to ban Bitcoin. | ||
| And I think we're well beyond that. | ||
| And Michael Saylor, the CEO of MicroStrategy, and Kathy Wood from Ark Investments, they had a fireside. | ||
| And the big takeaway from that is we're past the point of banning Bitcoin. | ||
| And the way Saylor framed it was pretty, you know, pretty succinct. | ||
| He said, when was the last time A sitting president gave an executive order to every federal agency telling them to get up to speed on a new digital or on a new asset class. | ||
| And that's what the Biden executive order pretty well was. | ||
| There is nothing in there that was saying we're going to ban this. | ||
| It was all, in a sense, we surrender. | ||
| Now we have to figure out a coherent regulatory structure to deal with it. | ||
| And that was basically green lighting crypto to move forward. | ||
| Huge announcement that of there is a company called Strike Commerce that's announcing you're going to be able to use Bitcoin payments in CVS, Walgreens, Staples, McDonald's, not in some far off land right here in the United States. | ||
| And it's going to be completely peer to peer. | ||
| It's integrated with Shopify. | ||
| There's going to be no middleman. | ||
| Someone's going to be able to pay you with Sats Satoshi's, a subdivision of Bitcoin. | ||
| It's going to not go through a middleman and it's going to show up in your own bank account either as cash if you want it as fiat or as Bitcoin and and the person on the other end can actually have complete privacy in making the payment. | ||
| So it's just it's gone from this is what we're working on. | ||
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This is what we hope to achieve to this is what we're doing. | |
| This is what's happening. | ||
| I reported a couple days ago that two more political autonomous zones have made Bitcoin legal tender Madeira. | ||
| In Portugal and Prosperos down in Honduras. | ||
| This thing is, it's a runaway now. | ||
| It's happening. | ||
| How do people find out, how they follow you and how they find out more about this? | ||
| Look, is it a store of value and will it be used for transactions? | ||
| That's the question. | ||
| This conference seemed to answer that. | ||
| Mark, how did they get to you? | ||
| BombThrower.com, you can get the Crypto Capitalist Manifesto or just sign up for the Crypto Capitalist mailing list. | ||
| My getter blew up this week, so I'm BombThrower on getter and I'm overtaking my Twitter following, so it's just blown it out of the water. | ||
| If you haven't been kicked off of Twitter, I'm Stunt Pope there, but all the action's happening over on getter right now. | ||
| Getter will, I'm sure, a ton of today as everybody watches this broadcast and listens to the podcast. | ||
| Mark Jastowiec, the Crypto Capitalist, thank you very much for the report from the biggest, most important digital currency conference ever down in Miami. | ||
| Thank you, sir. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We're going to be back. | ||
| We're going to mix it up a little bit when we get back in the war room. | ||
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We'll see you in a minute. | |
| Bring it on and have a fight to the end, just watch and see. | ||
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| Pandemic. | ||
| With Stephen K. Banham. | ||
| The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide. | ||
| War Room. | ||
| Pandemic. | ||
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Okay, now that it looks like COVID is gone, I don't know, it looks like it might be. | ||
| Of course, Fauci tells me it's raging throughout the country, so we'll have to get to that on Monday. | ||
| But in Augusta, Georgia, the Masters has definitely returned, and I want to go now to the gentleman that's trying to keep the legacy of the great Scottish golf architect that built that magnificent course down there out of a Tell us about this course and about the building of this course and why it's a really a it's a work of art in the area of golf course architecture, sir. | ||
| really the driving force and back of the Alistair McKenzie Institute. Tell us today as people watch this, tell us about this course and about the building of this course and why it's a really a it's a work of art in the area of golf course architecture, sir. Well, Steve, Augusta National is perhaps the most strategic well-designed golf course that's ever been built other than maybe | ||
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| Andrews. | ||
| And there's a reason for that. | ||
| Both Alistair McKenzie and Bobby Jones, their favorite golf course was the old course. | ||
| And when they created Augusta starting in 1931, they sought to pay homage to the old course and to implement much of the strategy from the old course, what's called the home of golf, into that creation. | ||
| And their intention was to do something very innovative for that day, and that day especially, and that was to create an inland links course, to create the world's greatest inland course, because in those days, all the best golf courses were in the sand dunes along the sea, mostly in the British Isles. | ||
| And they found this nursery, it's a 365 acre piece of property in Augusta, Georgia, that Bobby Jones found. | ||
| And he hired Alistair McKenzie, who was the world's most famous golf architect at the time, to create the ultimate test for professional golfers and also a very enjoyable golf course for your everyday golfer to play. | ||
| Mackenzie liked to build courses that were thought-provoking, that were enjoyable for most golfers, but that forced the best golf courses to think their way around a golf course. | ||
| And if a game of golf is like playing chess with Mother Nature, then Augusta National is the ultimate chess board. | ||
| It's a cathedral on the pines is what I call it. | ||
| Tell us about... Mackenzie was a populist. | ||
| I mean, golf had a reputation of being elitist, but in Scotland it's not. | ||
| What did Mackenzie want to do for golf globally, and particularly here in the United States, to make it really a sport accessible to everyone? | ||
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Well, Mackenzie tried to economize the process of building golf courses because he thought He was sort of an amateur student of economics and he thought that if you could solve for the economics of the golf course construction problem and economize that process, then you can make it affordable for people all around the world. | |
| And Scotland is a prime example of where that model first took shape. | ||
| It was very, very economical. | ||
| process. The early golf courses were essentially built by nature and they were very minimalistic in the way that they were maintained and he sought to export that model to the states primarily and into Australia and into South America. | ||
| During this weekend as people are watching today and tomorrow, Master Sunday, how do people get to your... | ||
| Alistair McKenzie Institute. | ||
| Because you're trying to keep his memory alive, what he stood for alive, and what his architecture was about. | ||
| How do people get to you on social media? | ||
| How do they get to the Institute? | ||
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Well, the website is alistairmckenzie.org. | |
| Social media, you can find us on Twitter at Dr. McKenzie, D-O-C-T-O-R McKenzie, and Instagram at McKenzie Institute. | ||
| You know, President Trump built a great course in Scotland, so we're dying to make sure we hook you up with President Trump. | ||
| We know he's a big Alistair McKenzie fan, a huge fan of the courses out in California that McKenzie built, and of course, Augusta Nationals. | ||
| So, Joshua, thank you so much for joining us here today in the War Room. | ||
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Thanks very much, Steve. | |
| Okay, make sure you go there today and check it out. | ||
| Also, remember, McKenzie had a great love for St. | ||
| Andrews. | ||
| Anybody who really wants to find out about St. | ||
| Andrews should read the book, Golf in the Kingdom, by Murphy. | ||
| Golf in the Kingdom, I know a lot of golfers love that. | ||
| It's actually Plato's Symposium set on a golf match in St. | ||
| Andrews, which maybe we'll deal with that later. | ||
| Okay, we've got to go from the sublime to the less sublime. | ||
| Right, let's go. | ||
| We've got a we've got the beginning of cancel culture. | ||
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Let's go to the let's go to the tape play a cold open He was identifying with the victims of other plots on the part of the federal government like John DeLorean. | |
| I An extraordinary development tonight in the $24 million cocaine case against John Z. DeLorean with that story, Channel 2 Special Assignment Reporter John Folley. | ||
| We've obtained what we believe to be copies of FBI surveillance tapes. | ||
| CBS reportedly obtained them from Hustler Magazine publisher Larry Flint. | ||
| The issue is whether John DeLorean was unfairly enticed by government agents into an illegal drug deal. | ||
| It's a real videotape. | ||
| Now, I'm not going to say any more than that on this because I know that my calls are being monitored. | ||
| Larry Flynt only knows he's alive when he sees himself reflected in the media. | ||
| If I were to think of who Larry is like, it might be Tom Sawyer with a chainsaw. | ||
| It might be Humpty Dumpty. | ||
| Dumpty Dumpty, because Larry was headed for a fall. | ||
| Okay, the film is Larry Flint for President. | ||
| It actually had a screening here this week. | ||
| They kind of set the town on fire. | ||
| Politico Playbook the next day talked about whoever was there. | ||
| We're honored to have the filmmaker Nadia Zold, who I've happened to know for a few years. | ||
| Nadia, Larry Flynt for President. | ||
| You couldn't pick a... and this is why this film is important. | ||
| It's the beginning of cancel culture, and a conservative Supreme Court had his back, but it shows you, I think, how a guy who could be quite detestable On one level, it could actually have a cause that conservatives stood in back of. | ||
| How long have you made this film? | ||
| In making it, how did you spend so many years with Larry Flint? | ||
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So the film took four years to make. | |
| The majority of the time in the beginning was on the research and on getting access and just going through this immense archive of never-before-seen footage from his campaign and multiple hours of audio calls when he was in prison. | ||
| So, um, I think that you have to, like, Al Maysles, the documentarian, said that you have to fall in love with your subject, any subject of a film, you have to fall in love with it or else what's the point? | ||
| And as complicated as Larry Flynt is, he was someone that I always felt had soul. | ||
| And it was exactly in those contradictions that made it seem like somebody worth spending that kind of time making the film. | ||
| Hang on a second, because you're someone, I think people know you, know you as a filmmaker, and you can tell because people, whether you love Larry Flynt or hate Larry Flynt, everybody I know that's seen the film loves the film. | ||
| It's kind of striking, someone like you who's a self-empowered woman, right? | ||
| How would you fall in love with the idea of a guy who is probably, forget Hugh Hefner, this was America's So, I want to start with just this little quote that is from James Agee. | ||
| Let us now praise famous men. | ||
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So I want to start with just this little quote that is from James Agee, Let Us Now Praise Famous Men. | |
| This is from his introduction, and I quote, Official acceptance is one of the unmistakable symptoms that salvation is beaten again and is the surest sign of fatal misunderstanding and the kiss of Judas. | ||
| And he goes on to then talk about how he would never want what he does to be considered art and to be just defanged in that sense. | ||
| And I think that Larry Flint is someone who is completely misunderstood and in that way has escaped the kind of defanging of official acceptance. | ||
| So he's somebody who, you know, being on the fringes, was able to change society, to put so much money into fighting Jerry Falwell to go to the Supreme Court and then to make parody part of the First Amendment. | ||
| So they expanded the First Amendment to include parody and satire as protected speech. | ||
| Ironic in the film because in seeing the film you don't really take a side. | ||
| You do something. | ||
| Look, I'm a filmmaker. | ||
| I definitely take sides when I make it. | ||
| People say I'm a propagandist, right? | ||
| But you're very even-handed in this because a lot of people come out and a lot of people like Larry Flint less than when they went into it and a lot of them didn't like him when he went in. | ||
| But isn't the irony in the film is that it's the battle of him versus Jerry Falwell But it is conservative justices that really take his cause up the most. | ||
| Some walkers do that. | ||
| How was it some of the most conservative justices actually had his back and his ability to have freedom of speech and not be canceled? | ||
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Well, it was really Scalia and Rehnquist who took this case and argued it to protect the importance of being able to satirize public figures and not be castigated for that. | |
| So as much as his politics were on the other side of Reagan's, and but he was running as a republican to get on the stage with reagan because he wanted to debate with reagan and he also said he was running as a republican because he's white wealthy and pornographic that's uh... that's the party he chose even though he's a lifelong democrat his campaign really was up | ||
| piece of satire in itself and performance art and the thing is with you know what i mean is that it is It was, it was performance art, but he put all the money in to have a point. | ||
| He was going, he was trying to, he was trying to reinforce the First Amendment or expand the First Amendment. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| And it was thanks to, to all the justices who, who voted a unanimous decision in his favor. | ||
| And, you know, later he became actually good friends with Falwell and they went on talk shows together and they, you know, really enjoyed debating it. | ||
| And how did that happen? | ||
| Because they'd had such a pitch battle for so many years? | ||
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They had such a pitch battle, and I think that Falwell had the humility to just understand that in that situation, Flint had won, and probably won with good reason, because I think that Falwell must have understood the necessity for freedom of speech. | |
| I want to go back to the process of this. | ||
| We've got a couple of minutes here, and then we'll hold you through the break. | ||
| People think four years of your life, a couple years in research and obviously getting financing, and then two years in actually making the film? | ||
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Yeah, two years in making the film. | |
| I'd say it was one year of pure editing, and then one year of fighting with the producers to keep my cut. | ||
| And then, so I guess half a year of fighting really, really hard to preserve the artistic integrity of my cut. | ||
| I mean, I think that freedom of speech was something that was kind of ironically in play. | ||
| In the film too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They wanted to make it more commercial and tone down some of the edges to it? | ||
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They did. | |
| They wanted to make Larry Flint more likable in a kind of Hollywood way. | ||
| The power of the film, if you see it, is that you can come out of there and understand his cause and find him detestable. | ||
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And I think that that's really important and that's why, as Larry said, there's a price for living in a free society and that price is toleration. | |
| You must tolerate the people and the ideas that you loathe most. | ||
| So I had to show him and have him say things that make me cringe, but I'm not in any position to censor him. | ||
| Okay, short commercial break. | ||
| We'll return with Nadia Zold, the filmmaker for a very powerful film, Larry Flint for President. | ||
| It will rattle you if you watch it, but you see the beginning of cancel culture. | ||
| How it started. | ||
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| I would be very surprised if there were not a number of cartoons depicting one or another political figure as at least a piano player in a bordello. | ||
| Justice Scalia. | ||
| We don't shoot the piano player. | ||
| I understand that. | ||
| Well, but can you give us something that the cartoonist can adhere to? | ||
| Does it depend on how ugly the beast is or what? | ||
| No, it's not the amount of hair the beast has or how long his claws may be. | ||
| There is some new kind of category that this court ought to establish called the political public figure. | ||
| The core of it was the unusual admission, yes, that's what I was trying to do, I was trying to destroy him, and I knew that it was false, and I knew that it would hurt, and it had no value, but I did it anyway. | ||
| And the Supreme Court said, that's perfectly okay. | ||
| Not exactly the most liberal Supreme Court that was ever constructed, squatting right in the midst of the Reagan administration, and he still kicked Falwell's butt. | ||
| And then Falwell became his friend. | ||
| We're here with Nadia Zold. | ||
| It's an amazing film. | ||
| Now, people can't see it right now. | ||
| You're still trying to cut your deal to get this theatrical release, correct? | ||
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Yeah, it's still on the festival circuit right now. | |
| You're going to Cannes. | ||
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Going to Cannes. | |
| But in the market. | ||
| You're at a competition to sell the film. | ||
| People should anticipate this is going to be a fall release in theatres? | ||
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| Fall release, streamers, hopefully theatres too. | ||
| Select theatres. | ||
| The producers wanted to have this more Hollywood. | ||
| It's because you can come out of this and understand his cause and understand why Scalia was really the intellectual in the court that backed it, but find Larry Flint pretty detestable. | ||
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Yes, I mean, it's not the person that is important here, it's the idea. | |
| And I mean, one thing that's interesting in the idea of like cancel culture, and something that I talked to Larry about before he died, was that just the idea of when people say you can't, you know, you should just be able to separate the art from the artist, He actually went beyond that. | ||
| He said he didn't think that that was just being a little bit weak. | ||
| You have to accept the artist and the art in a way where you can hold two opposing ideas in your head and be okay with flawed human beings and not try to expunge all of history in the sake of ideological purity. | ||
| He mounted a presidential campaign to prove a point. | ||
| He was an issues guy, an ideologue. | ||
| This is coming out now in probably even a 50 times more intense time about cancel culture than it was then. | ||
| What political impact? | ||
| Are you looking for a political impact in this film? | ||
| Are you looking that this film would be a message film? | ||
| You spent four years of your life doing this. | ||
| You could have picked any topic. | ||
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What do you hope to achieve by its release? | |
| I feel like Larry Flint's punk attitude is a really refreshing antidote to an uptight age that we're living in. | ||
| And just the necessity for people to take a step back and get a sense of humor and also be able to understand the importance of forgiveness and how a life is long and people make mistakes and people you know can have very strong views that are different from yours but to be able to enjoy the complexity and to be able to hold two opposing ideas in your mind and still go forward. | ||
| I mean, that's really the sign of of intelligence that you can, you know, have conflicting. | ||
| You can see the nuance and I feel like a lot of nuance has been lost in our culture right now. | ||
| So what I would hope people take away is is a little bit more courage to be able to say the things that they want to say and not be afraid of offending and that it's really not a bad thing to offend people. | ||
| Did you think you showed courage in trying to stand up to the fact that they wanted to take some of the nudity out, which shocks people, they wanted to make a more of a Hollywood arc, and Larry Flynt making a nicer, more acceptable, traditional Hollywood hero, and you fought both of those? | ||
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Oh, definitely. | |
| I found it to be extremely hypocritical to try to censor Larry Flynt after he'd been censored his whole life, especially if this is the documentary. | ||
| This is not the Columbia Pictures, Woody Harrelson version. | ||
| You know, Larry Flynt is not a likable guy most of the time. | ||
| And so the idea of making him into like a Hollywood likable guy was just anathema. | ||
| I had to fight really hard also to preserve the nudity in it because it was important to show why Hustler outraged so many people and how it was different from Playboy. | ||
| I mean, there are many differences between Larry Flynt and Hugh Hefner. | ||
| I think one of the most interesting ones that gets overlooked is the fact that obviously Hefner was always aimed at acceptability and he wanted to become the mainstream and Larry was a perpetual outsider. | ||
| The same corporations that showered Playboy in advertisement dollars | ||
| shunned Hustler and so instead Larry just responded by increasing the price of Hustler and people paid for it and instead of having ads he made his own ad parodies of those same corporations especially attacking the tobacco industry even from the seventies so he was a satirist and that's something that people don't really understand or appreciate and that's okay I mean Jonathan Swift didn't say just kidding at the end of A Modest Proposal I mean, effective satire doesn't have a smiley face. | ||
| You have to be able to, you know, read through the lines. | ||
| Real quickly, so it's, you're going to Cannes, it'll be sold to a distributor or somehow and you'll get to market and get it in theaters. | ||
| How long did it take you to edit this film? | ||
| For the young people out there, the dedication of a filmmaker to make a great film like this, how long did it take you to sit in an editing room every day? | ||
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So when we got the funding to begin editing, I found out I was pregnant. | |
| So it was really nine months of being able to… Every day. | ||
| Every day. | ||
| And it was an incredible pleasure because we had such a huge archive. | ||
| I had interviewed so many people as well, so we had a new archive too. | ||
| And we were able to go down different roads and see where they led, and then really just craft something without voiceover or narration, and let the film speak for itself. | ||
| You didn't cheat, as we say. | ||
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Well, I love narration. | |
| I do. | ||
| But I just wanted to try this. | ||
| It's tougher to do it this way. | ||
| We're quoting about 45 seconds. | ||
| Next projects? | ||
| You already thinking about your next project? | ||
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| A documentary or film? | ||
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It's a hybrid. | |
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And there's going to be a voiceover, which is mine. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The film is Larry Finland for President. | ||
| It is pretty, pretty in your grill. | ||
| So we can't wait to see it come out. | ||
| You're a great filmmaker. | ||
| Thank you for coming in. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| Monday, we're going to be up on Getter all weekend. | ||
| The massively important election in France is tomorrow. | ||
| We're going to be nonstop on covering this. | ||
| We're gonna let folks know. | ||
| The voters in France are going to actually tell the world what they think about NATO and EU's policies in the Ukraine. | ||
| We're going to get to see it all. | ||
| We'll be up nonstop. | ||
| I'll be up live. | ||
| Ben Harnwell will be up live. | ||
| The War Room will be up live. | ||
| So the election in France tomorrow, very important. | ||
| Front National, National Rally vs. Macron. | ||
| We'll cover it wall-to-wall. | ||
| I want to thank the team at Guetta. | ||
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See you. | |
| Thank you very much. | ||
| We'll be back here Monday morning live. |
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