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Episode 1,743 - Don Jr. Curates The News; US Underwrites UKR BiolabsEpisode 1,743 - Don Jr. Curates The News; US Underwrites UKR Biolabs
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unidentified
Well the virus has now killed more than a hundred people in China and new cases have been confirmed around the world.
So you don't want to frighten the American public.
France and South Korea have also got evacuation plans.
But you need to prepare for and assume.
Broadly warning Americans to avoid all non-essential travel to China.
That this is going to be a real serious problem.
France, Australia, Canada, the US, Singapore, Cambodia, Vietnam, the list goes on.
Health officials are investigating more than a hundred possible cases in the US.
Germany, a man has contracted the virus.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
Japan, where a bus driver contracted the virus.
Coronavirus has killed more than 100 people there and infected more than 4,500.
anthony fauci
We have to prepare for the worst, always, because if you don't and the worst happens, War Room.
unidentified
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
...the time and onward that I may be close to...
...the steady dark...
steve bannon
Okay, in a world driven by information, there's a major new site that's out with an app.
Minute by Minute, MXM, its founder is Donald Trump Jr.
He joins us now.
Don Jr., tell me, this looks like you're taking on drudge in the mainstream media.
Why did you get all worked up?
You know, you're one of the best guys putting out Twitter, putting out, you know, your social media feeds.
You obviously got very well informed opinions.
But what was it that hit your tripwire that you said, hey, I got to do this.
I've got to get a news aggregation site up.
unidentified
You know, just watching what happens there on social media, Steve, you can see the stories, the Hunter Biden laptop.
The Wuhan lab leak theory and everything that was debunked and all of the nonsense.
You know, people were writing about these things.
They were real.
They were people questioning it.
You just never saw it anywhere.
You know, Drudge sort of used to be the guy to do that.
And when they don't even report on the Durham report, you understand that whether it was a trade of ownership or whatever, You know, they've gone woke.
They've decided to please, you know, the corporate overlords and, you know, cash out, make some money, whatever it may be.
That's fine.
But I was seeing all of these stories, and having lived in some of the stories of the last five years, I just needed people to see what was actually out there.
So we created me and a couple friends, super MAGA guys, all smart guys, all political.
All saw just the dearth of information, the suppression of real information that's out there.
You know, I'll never see War Room pop up on social media.
If I do, I see 10% of what I would of an equivalent amount of posts from CNN.
So we created MXM for a place that people can find the stories that are out there that they're not going to see anywhere else, unfortunately.
steve bannon
So how do people execute on this?
Because we're going to put it out, you know, the war on posse is a great force multiplier.
And I want to tell everybody this.
How do people actually get access?
Where do they go?
What do they do?
I want to ask you about your curation process in a second.
How you, because I know you're a guy that's on every news site, reading papers all day long, like your dad.
But how do people, how does this audience actually get access to that?
And how can they start using it as a tool?
unidentified
You can just go to mxmnews.com.
M-X-M, like minute by minute.
News.com.
Or just go to donjr.com.
That's the easiest one.
You just click on the link, whether you're on Google for Android, whether you're on Apple for iPhone.
You know, literally click on the link.
It'll take you right there to the app.
It's a totally free app.
You know, you really have nothing to lose.
If you don't like it, if you don't think you're seeing the right news, just delete it.
You know, we're not asking anything.
Just as one of the people that's, again, seen the bias, seen the suppression of thought and ideas of conservative mindset and opinion, I just said, someone's got to do this.
Someone's got to fight for this stuff.
Obviously, I've done that extensively, whether it's on social, whether it's on TV, using whatever platform I can.
But I want to make sure that other people see the news that I'm seeing, that I'm basing my opinion off of.
And so, you know, we can do it.
So just, you know, easiest way, just go to DonJr.com right at the top.
You click Apple or Android, it'll take you right to their respective sort of app stores.
You download it for free.
You don't have to give any information.
You don't have to do anything.
You really have nothing to lose, dude.
steve bannon
One of the things I think people always appreciate about your dad is that he came at things from a kind of a hard, tough-minded business approach about, you know, thinking things through.
You're obviously a businessman, came to politics late.
Walk us through the curation process.
Like, what do you, one of the things I think the tagline, somebody said mainstream media without the mainstream bias.
You're getting real news, but without the bias.
What's your curation process?
Like in the morning, what do you, is it the FT, the journal?
What is Don Jr.
looking at to actually then curate it for other people?
unidentified
Yeah, it's actually everything, Steve.
The difference is we're not shadowbanning The War Room.
If you guys have a great story, if you're breaking interesting news, if you put up a good one, we will put it up there and you'll see it with the same sort of attention as you would anything else.
So if I was looking on this morning, there was a story from ABC News, Main Street Media, there was a New York Times article.
But then there's something like the Daily Wire, the Daily Caller, you guys, any number of places where people are getting real news that's totally credible, but isn't gonna be suppressed.
You saw again what they did to the New York Post.
I believe it's the second oldest newspaper in America.
Probably the second largest in New York, in New York City.
And the Hunter Biden laptop, they broke it.
It was an incredible story.
It was 100% real.
No one from the Biden campaign denied it.
And the rest of the world said, we're not going to let you see this.
We're not going to link to it.
We're going to shut it down.
If you're on MXM, you're going to see that article.
You're going to get to read it.
You're going to get to formulate your own opinion and decide accordingly.
And we now know that a very large number of people, like close to 20% of people in America who voted for Joe Biden, had they known about that scandal, which was obvious.
It was totally real.
Everyone knew it from the minute it broke.
No one did anything.
No one saw it.
20% of those people would not have voted for Joe Biden and maybe we wouldn't be on the verge of World War III.
Maybe we wouldn't have six, seven dollar gas in some places.
Maybe people would be able to feed their family and we wouldn't be on the brink of recession.
Uh, because we'd have sensible and credible policies and we'd have a leader in the White House that actually leads.
Uh, that doesn't just sort of sign off on whatever his puppet masters tell him to do.
Uh, what's going on right now is a disgrace and if people actually saw real news, maybe these problems wouldn't exist.
steve bannon
I want to ask you from as a businessman, because I think Cortez is going to join us back in a minute to go through some math.
But one of the most underreported stories is the golden age of Trump, particularly like the fall and Christmas of 19 before the CCP virus hit versus.
Versus what Biden's done by policy.
We have an inverted yield curve now.
We're heading into recession.
Walk us through your perspective as a businessman, where the economy is, and where's the most unreported stories about what a debacle we have in front of us, sir.
unidentified
Well, listen, I think, you know, you have the nonsense coming from Dodd-Frank that, you know, tried to fix the disasters of 2007-2008.
I think they're going to come back to bite us in the butt.
I mean, you have a recession where people, you know, the Democrats' response to, I can't afford $5 gases, go buy a $65,000 electrical vehicle.
And I'm like, I don't understand how that works.
And by the way, if everyone in America had electric vehicles, you wouldn't have the power generation to be able to actually charge them.
So, you know, you've had this thing where you've had artificially low interest rates for a very long period of time.
Everyone's benefit of that.
You know, certainly, you know, anyone who's been an investor, anyone who's bought a home, anyone who's done that.
But it doesn't work forever when you have these inflationary practices coming in when you have sort of almost an attempt.
It feels like it is an attempt to destroy the economy at this point when you have and are sitting on the world's natural largest natural gas and oil reserves.
But you refuse to use them.
But you will still take those same fuel oil from Russia until about a week ago.
Iran.
You're negotiating with Maduro in Venezuela, who you didn't even recognize a few weeks ago.
I mean, we are willing to negotiate with the world's leading state sponsor of terror.
We're allowing Russia to arbitrate a deal with them.
Iran will take their oil and gas and enrich them, but we won't deal with the people of Texas.
We won't deal with the people of Western Pennsylvania who produce oil, or Oklahoma, or any number of the energy-producing states.
You know, this is a recipe for disaster, and we're not doing anything to take the pressure off.
That's the problem.
We have off-rent.
We just refuse to use them.
So you continue these inflationary practices, you start raising interest rates, and all of a sudden that home that everyone aspired to during the boom times of Trump and bought, all of a sudden it's getting really expensive.
We saw what happened in 07-08.
I don't see how this is any different.
Frankly, it could be worse.
steve bannon
I want to go to this about the dollar being the prime reserve currency.
Look, we've had to pay a price for it for what we've had to do to support it, but the dollar has been the prime reserve currency.
It allows us to run these massive budget deficits, but now you have a Fed and administration That is, in weaponizing the dollar, actually putting in jeopardy, having these bundles, and we just heard that Putin's coming out and saying, hey look, you want to buy my natural gas, the two-thirds of Europe is heated by, you got to pay in rubles.
How irresponsible do you think, in your mind as a businessman, the Fed and the Biden administration have been about these massive deficits, the easy money, and not choking down inflation, sir?
unidentified
Well, I mean, this is the big one, Steve.
I mean, you nailed it.
I mean, if you're not the world's reserve currency, you don't get to borrow and spend haphazardly.
Maybe that's a good thing.
Maybe we need that lesson.
But, man, the price we will pay to learn that lesson the hard way is going to be a disaster.
If the U.S.
dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency, you don't get to borrow and run these deficits the way you have.
In the past, you don't get to do all of the things.
You know, we've been sort of spending much more than we've been making for decades.
And there comes a time where you have to pay the piper.
If they continue these practices and they drive everyone away from the dollar, China is salivating.
They will do whatever they can to take over even a portion of that, even if it was a dual currency.
If you allow them the ability to do that, Everything we know and everything and the way we've lived over the last few decades in America is in jeopardy.
It's a serious problem.
I mean, I don't know that people can fully comprehend how disastrous that would be, especially if you're used to living in America as a first world country, but it's really troubling.
steve bannon
Don Jr., you know your dad probably better than anybody.
Can you imagine a situation where MBZ in the UAE and MBS in Saudi Arabia wouldn't take the phone call of President Trump?
I mean, the last two weeks ago, given everything we've done for the Gulf Emirates, they would not take the call of Joe Biden, yet they invited Assad, MBZ for a state visit, and the Saudis who invited Xi for a state visit.
What's your perspective on that?
unidentified
I mean, it just, you know, he exudes weakness.
There's no reason to take his call.
They actually hold all the chips right now.
And we've given them that advantage.
I mean, we've literally given them that leverage by saying, yeah, we're not going to do anything with the reserves that we have.
We're not going to pump our own oil and gas.
We're not going to issue more permits.
We're not going to do these things.
Hey, guys, we need you to open up the pumps a little bit.
Of course, they're going to drive up the price.
They're not stupid, OK?
These are not dumb people.
Uh, you may not like them, you may not anything, but like, they're not dumb people and they're gonna take advantage and Joe Biden has given them that ability.
Um, and you know, the difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump was that they understood and respected Donald Trump.
They don't understand or respect Joe Biden.
They don't understand what he's saying because it seems he doesn't understand what he's saying.
You saw how he walked back his comments 15 times and the White House has to fix it.
Then he walks back there, walks back because he doesn't know that they're actually doing these things and fixing these messes because it seems as though his own White House is not even telling Joe Biden what they're actually doing.
I mean, it's literally embarrassing at this point.
You could have a toddler running things better and they'd probably have a better understanding or grasp of what was actually going on.
They don't.
But there is no scenario in the world in which one of these leaders of these foreign countries was not taking Donald Trump's call.
Now you have North Korea, same situation.
They're testing missiles that could reach any part of the United States.
You know, that stuff stopped for a while.
You have China flying sorties over Taiwan.
That stuff wasn't going on.
Notice how Russia didn't exactly invade its neighbors under Trump, because dictators.
You may not like them, but guess what?
They understand one thing, and they respect one thing, and that's power, strength, resolve.
All of those things being what Donald Trump exuded and what Joe Biden is totally lacking.
steve bannon
Well, you can follow me on all the social channels.
You're going to have to work hard to try to find me there.
unidentified
to get to this new amazing site.
Kimberly will tell me she typed in my entire handle, my full handle, and I still don't even show up with millions of followers.
It's crazy.
But if you want to check out MXM News, the easiest way is honestly go to DonJr.com.
It's right there on the top.
If you're Google, Android, click the link.
It'll take you right to their respective app stores so that you don't get suppressed there as well.
Download it for free.
If you don't like it, delete it in five minutes, but I think you're going to like it.
steve bannon
Oh, they're going to love it.
People are going to love it.
I want everybody to get it and push it out to your friends.
Don Jr., thank you for doing this, and thank you for jumping in the War Room today.
unidentified
Thanks a lot, Steve.
Be well.
steve bannon
Okay.
We've got Cortez.
We've got John Solomon.
We've got Dr. Naomi Wolf.
We've got Dr. Robert Malone.
I think that's the 27 Yankees.
That's a pretty good lineup.
Hang in there.
Get MXN downloaded right now.
It's curating the news for you every day.
Mainstream news without mainstream bias.
We're going to be back in the War Room in just a moment.
unidentified
Okay, we got that new aggregation site.
steve bannon
So I want Captain Ben and everybody running our social media and all the platforms.
Let's go ahead and download this today.
Check it out.
You're going to love it.
It's a new curation site run by Don, founded by Don Jr., run by Don Jr.
and a lot of folks that we know over there, really hardworking, smart folks.
So it's a great curation site.
And they're not going to, not just Shadowband, they're going to put up to the top All the news you don't see every day because the tech oligarchs suppress it.
MXM.
It's an app.
Let's get on it.
Let's be a force multiplier.
I want everybody to push this out today.
It's totally free.
Not gonna cost you anything.
So let's push it out.
Captain Bannon and our always crack social media team.
We can get on this on the ramparts.
Okay.
We got a lot to go through and in a little time.
I want to go to John Solomon.
The Great John Solomon from Just The News and The John Solomon Show here on Real America's Voice.
John, you've got a major interview coming up.
Tell us about it.
You've got the President of the United States.
Tell us about it.
john solomon
Yeah, Donald Trump sat with us yesterday for a half hour really detailed interview.
His vision for how to fix America from what Joe Biden has done to it in the first couple of, first 15, 16 months of his presidency.
Really a different type of Trump than we're usually seeing.
Very policy-oriented, very, you saw this, President, because you were behind the scenes with him, but he has a policy prescription. He's thinking about everything, and then he creates a little mischief like he always likes to do.
One of my favorite moments in the interview, he says, you know, I hope Vladimir Putin releases everything about Hunter Biden's dealings with Russian oligarchs, because Joe Biden's portraying himself as, you know, the next Ronald Reagan.
But in fact, his family had their hooks into the Russian oligarchs before this war started.
So a couple of fun moments, but very substantive policy prescriptions.
Basically, Trump Doctrine 2.0 comes out in this interview.
steve bannon
And so you got the right of when are you going to do this tonight?
Six o'clock?
Is this when we're actually going to see the interview?
john solomon
Yeah, six o'clock tonight on Just the News, Not Noise.
Amanda Head and I, the whole show will be dedicated to the interview.
We're going to play the president's interview with no commercial interruptions.
A half hour straight.
Everybody can see it just like we experienced it firsthand.
steve bannon
By the way, that thing about Hunter Biden is not small, because I keep saying it.
They know every move.
The Chinese, they know the compromise.
They know the honeypotting, they know the compromise.
These guys, look what's happening in Ukraine right now.
Come on.
This is power politics.
This is smash mouth.
Okay?
This is not about the little people.
The little people are the cannon fodder here.
Marshall Harmer said it.
They're going to leave the Ukrainian people to their own fate.
This is absurd.
And when Trump says something like that, it's very powerful.
And they know.
They absolutely know.
Also, you've been able to straighten something else on just the news.
I really want to thank this and take a couple of minutes.
This whole thing of Obama and these, you know, Victoria Nuland sitting there going, there's these research facilities and they got this research material.
And now we want American special forces to really say, whoa, lady, whoa, whoa, what are you talking about?
These aren't guys from These are not guys from the bog from Serbia doing bench work to get postgraduate degrees.
So what's going on?
You've gone back and done some analysis of what Obama and Lugar and all these guys did.
What is it?
john solomon
Yeah, listen.
In 2005, the very first foreign trip that then-Senator Barack Obama, later to be President Barack Obama, took was to Ukraine.
He went along with Richard Lugar, a senior Republican senator at the time, To go announce that they were going to provide U.S.
money for these what are biodefense labs.
So remember, Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union for a long time.
They knew that the Soviet Union, a la Russia, had bioweapons, and now that they were moving away from the Soviet Union, they wanted to be in a protective posture, to be able to have antidotes and other different things available.
God forbid that Russia ever deploy a chemical or biological weapon.
So these labs existed out of defense for Ukraine and the Americans are sitting there saying, you know, they have a lot of deadly pathogens.
That's what you need to test and create antidotes.
We probably should provide better security than what the Ukrainians have.
And so Barack Obama goes over with Richard Lugar and announces a large package of money from the United States to try to get these biodefense labs up to standards that there won't be an accidental release like what may have happened in wuhan or uh... and another chinese lab accidents and to make sure that no bad people can come in and steal the pathogens brocco obama is at the origins of this bio defense lab Yeah.
Controversy that now has resurrected itself in the middle of the Ukraine war. Why are we concerned about them now?
unidentified
Wow.
john solomon
Listen, if a bomb hits one of these labs and the pathogens get out you could have a human humanitarian crisis of epic proportions So and you know, this is a goes back to something that Biden didn't do really well We're doing these things now if he knew the war was imminent like he kept announcing since December Why weren't these things done before the Russian invasion again further proof that this administration is acting from behind?
steve bannon
Yeah, not and look this loose talk about tactical nuclear weapons chemical weapons. You got by this is so scared These things can escalate so quickly.
john solomon
Oh yes.
steve bannon
It's the Law of Unintended Consequences of the Fog of War.
John, you're on fire.
This interview today is going to be huge.
I'm telling you, his comment on the Biden thing, Hunter Biden is a big deal.
That's Trump.
He knows how to give a signal, not noise.
unidentified
100%.
steve bannon
I think he's a professional.
And Solomon, you are too.
So great that you and Amanda are down there.
So how do people get to Justin News?
How do they get to the site?
john solomon
Yep, justinews.com.
Very simple.
We have an app on the iOS and Android stores as well.
We're moving news 24-7.
We have our investigative stuff, which I love to do, but we also have all the breaking news of the day, and I really enjoy coming on your show, Steve, to talk about things like this.
You've been on this story from the beginning about the biodefense labs, and I really appreciate the chance to keep advancing that story.
steve bannon
Thank you, sir.
Appreciate it.
We're on the story because the guys like our next our next guest in here in a few minutes, Dr. Wolf, got us understanding about Tony Fauci, right?
This all gets back to the big Tony.
Real quickly, we got a 60 minutes piece.
I want to clip on a play.
I got to bring Cortez in here because this is for the future generation.
This is about why people under 40 in this country are nothing more than Russian serfs.
OK, let's play this clip and I'm bringing Cortez.
unidentified
Icon is trying to buy 800 houses a month.
I think if you asked a lot of millennials, and that tends to be our primary resident, they would probably tell you that they don't necessarily desire to own a home or to own a car.
They've grown up in the sharing economy and for what's important to them is lifestyle.
steve bannon
Yeah, you're not going to own anything and you're going to enjoy it.
OK, I'm not following that right now.
Steve Cortez, this is insidious.
This is what's going to keep a generation under 40.
They want you to be a serf.
They want you on the wheel of samsara.
They just want you spinning on the wheel with a little bit of credit.
You're just a hamster.
You're not going to own anything.
But they're going to own it.
They're going to get the upside.
And you're just going to pay.
You're just going to make their interest payments.
Steve Cortez.
steve cortes
No, exactly right.
So that mogul at Tricon, Blackstone, these massive institutions, the oligarchs are going to own everything.
And we're going to have a neo-feudal system in which young people realize that home ownership is completely financially out of reach to them.
Now, 60 Minutes and Davos wants you to believe or want young people to believe that that's somehow good for them.
And of course, you know, what we're referencing is the Davos World Economic Forum prescription, which it came out with, which by the way, I'm quoting from right now, quote, you'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
What you want, you'll rent.
You'll own nothing and you'll be happy.
Well, that's not the reality right now.
But unfortunately, what was already a bad situation in terms of affordability for young people regarding housing has been made massively worse, of course, by Joe Biden.
Why?
And I get to all of this in my very new article that I put up on my sub stack about Biden crushing home ownership for young people.
If we go to the first chart that I sent over, it's actually, I think, called chart number two, but this is home mortgage interest rates right now, 30-year interest rates.
Look at the right side of that chart and you see that interest rates on mortgages, 30-year mortgages, are absolutely catapulting higher.
To put numbers on that, we began the year, 30-year mortgage average nationwide was 3.25%.
At the beginning of this month of March, it was 3.76%.
That was a marked rise, okay?
But it was nothing compared to what then unfolded during March.
In just the last four weeks, Steve, we've seen 30-year mortgages jump well over a full percentage point to hit 4.95%.
That is an absolutely jaw-dropping jump.
Why?
Because of Joe Biden's inflation with the help of Pelosi and Schumer and unfortunately a lot of Republicans.
Now let me put some dollar figures on this because I think this is important for people to realize.
What does that jump mean?
It means that at the beginning of the month, just four weeks ago, if you had a $2,000 monthly mortgage payment, That could support a loan of $424,000, which is just right about where the median home value is in the United States.
A $2,000 per month mortgage payment supported $424,000.
Right now, just four weeks later, because of this just absolute surge in rates, $2,000 monthly payment only supports a loan of $375,000.
But at the same time, okay, so your dollars go way less far because of the massive rise in financing costs.
But at the same time, the sticker price, the cost of homes, is absolutely vaulting higher for the first time in U.S.
history.
The average sale price of a new single-family home is over $500,000.
So you have this double whammy of financing costs skyrocketing.
Plus, the sticker price of new homes surging because of Biden's inflation.
You have institutional buyers like that mogul that Leslie Stahl profiled.
You have institutional buyers starting to dominate in many places the market for homes.
It creates a generation of young people who do not have a shot at the American dream and will never get that important pillar of the American dream that is home ownership.
That creates personal wealth, that can create generational wealth, and builds strong families and strong communities.
So the fallout here is hard to exaggerate really, Steve, of the consequences of Biden's policies.
steve bannon
Okay, by the way, I thought we'd get out of the company town.
That's one of the things we're trying to break with.
They own everything, and you're just sitting there.
You're a serf.
You're a Russian serf.
You're better fed.
You're better informed.
You're in better shape.
Okay?
But you own nothing, and you're not going to own anything.
You're just in the wheel of samsara.
You're just there.
You're just spinning like a hamster.
Okay?
Spinning like a hamster.
And you get a little bit of credit.
You get a little bit of credit.
It's sick.
Okay?
And these people, these people are demons.
unidentified
Okay, Steve, real quickly.
steve bannon
Yep, go ahead.
steve cortes
I was just going to say, it's part of why the birth rate is so low.
Family formation is at an all-time low.
For the first time in American history, the majority of U.S.
houses do not have a married couple in them.
So, I mean, the social consequences, this isn't just about the economics.
The social, the societal, and cultural consequences are intense.
They're profound, and they're extremely negative for our society.
We have to reverse this, and we can, and I give the prescription how in my article.
steve bannon
Okay, give your, you've got 20 seconds.
Substack and Getter.
steve cortes
Please find me on Gitter, at Steve, at Twitter, I'm at CortezSteve, Cortez with an S. Cortez is a hitter, he's got at Steve, I'm just at Steve Bannon, okay?
steve bannon
Short commercial break, Dr. Wolf's in the house!
Cortez, thank you.
Dr. Wolf in the house next.
unidentified
War Room, Pandemic, with Stephen K. Bannon.
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
steve bannon
Okay, you notice, I think it's the first time in the history of this show I haven't had the headphones on.
Just like I had Dr. Wolf in the studio.
We're going to have a big hair throwdown right now.
naomi wolf
It's the 80s.
steve bannon
It is.
I'm in dire need of a haircut, I know.
I get that grief every day.
You've got a new book coming out, and we'll get to that in a second.
I also want to talk about the Tony Fauci book.
But first off, everybody all day long has asked me about how the project's going.
You said a couple weeks ago you're two or three, four weeks away from an interim report and then a final report.
Just can you give us a status report?
naomi wolf
Yeah, and I think it's a good method to give regular updates because so much is unfolding day by day.
I mean, the big news is that we hired a wonderful program manager and Amy Kelly, she's on it.
And so what's happening right now is that team leaders... It's that big that we need a program manager?
I mean, it's overwhelming.
steve bannon
So this was not a wild goose chase?
I keep hearing incredible stuff from the people that are doing it, but you're saying from a top-level professional experience, this has been worth the effort?
naomi wolf
I mean, I don't think anyone without this methodology could have surfaced the vast, we have almost 500 individual reports in the archive from the 2,500 volunteers, and so that's going to make it... You're saying from the 55,000 pages, you now have...
From the first 55,000 pages, there's a new tranche coming out in April, and then they're coming out.
So this is going to be ongoing.
But I guess what I'm trying to say is, you know, it took these 2500 highly talented, diverse skill set volunteers, people from all walks of life across the country, pouring through their section of each of these documents to find the almost 500 individual reports that they submitted beautifully that now the 250 lawyers from different disciplines looking at different causes of action are able to lift out cherry pick, ask for, you know, follow It's extraordinary.
And some of the things they've surfaced, I've updated people sort of week by week, but just in the last few days, we've had reports.
Shall I go through some of the highlights?
I mean, it's stunning because it's kind of a bloodbath.
When you look at what these volunteers have identified, assuming, you know, all of these identifications are kind of proven out by the next round of the expert panel that we've assembled reviewing them, you know explaining exactly what they are It's so clear that this was a gigantic experiment on millions of people the vaccines Yeah, we're this stage of that the vaccines the internal trials essentially and
And they didn't hide that it was an experiment, right?
steve bannon
They just didn't, the FDA... Internally to themselves, they were talking all the time like it was an experiment.
naomi wolf
Well, we don't have emails to that effect that I have seen in the reports.
It's more that the things that are surfacing are so kind of bizarre and experimental, you know, that in and there's so much not aligned with what the fda was saying what the cdc was saying what doctor that she was saying that's a defective safe and effective you know no problems children are fine moms are fine i mean let me just give one example one of the end of the movies that that was found is toxic oil syndrome which is
uh... you know something that comes up in the developing world with like you know cooking oil that is problematic uh... but but people after having been injected with something that is based on lipids right it is that uh... you know these lipid nanoparticles I don't know the cause of the toxic oil syndrome, but I think that bears investigation.
I mean, this is a bizarre thing to have had surface in an adverse effect.
Another one is encephaly.
There were, you know, encephaly, right?
And again, we don't yet know cause effect, but that came up.
Were we told about that?
We were not.
23 spontaneous abortions.
What?
23 spontaneous abortions.
Now, we don't know, right, if that's, you know, women have miscarriages, right?
So we don't know if that's above or below or at the level of the control.
But that's the point.
We don't know.
And yet over and over and over and to me, as you know, as a feminist health advocate, this is a very big deal, because, you know, the CDC still has a page on its site saying, You know v-safe we looked at this for pregnant women and for babies and it's safe and effective well women were not told there were 23 spontaneous abortions in the adverse events alone and the other thing that's coming up is that the second Most frequent adverse effect for moms and babies.
And this definitely bears, you know, teasing out by the experts.
It appears to be that some babies or moms, you know, died after the injection.
steve bannon
What do you mean, appears that they died?
naomi wolf
Death is one of the adverse effects.
So again, in such a big population, you don't know if that's normal.
They died of something else.
You just don't know.
But something that's very, very clear from this experiment is that, you know, we know from the earlier revelation I gave you that the mRNA and the lipid nanoparticles did not stay in the Injection site, but went into the blood, the liver, the spleen, the adrenals, and the ovaries within 48 hours.
You remember that.
So, and Pfizer knew that, right?
When all the spokesmodels were saying, stays in the arm, safe and effective.
Doctors, I know, were saying when I said, where does it go?
They said it stays in the arm.
Not true.
The reason I bring this up is these studies show to me, not a scientist, red flags about safety for pregnant women and babies, and especially lactating women.
And newborn babies.
And there is nothing in the study that shows that it does not affect breast milk, right?
And so, you know, and nothing in the v-safe that I have seen, and I looked at v-safe that pregnant women study carefully, follows the babies after three months, follows them with a control to make sure that they are thriving.
And anecdotally, you know, we're hearing from some of the dissident doctors that there could be an effect on breast milk, which stands to reason if these lipid nanoparticles are going into the bloodstream that spleen the adrenals.
steve bannon
But you had brought this up as a warning a year and a half ago.
I remember the very first time we had you on the show, you were talking about menstrual cycles and all this problem.
How come that's not in these internal documents?
They didn't focus on that or they didn't know that people had questions at the time?
naomi wolf
I don't know how to answer that and there's such a volume that I don't know that there's nothing on menstrual cycles.
But I do know that the kinds of questions, I know for sure and I will stake my reputation on this, the kinds of questions you are supposed to ask when you're dealing with pregnant women because as Dr. Alexander said, pregnant women are supposed to get nothing, right?
You're supposed to give them nothing.
you know, that is not absolutely safe, tested during pregnancy. You're not supposed to have a glass of wine during pregnancy, you know, because of the risk of disrupting or smoke a cigarette. So given that you're not supposed to give pregnant women anything and given how directly the bloodstream relates to the placenta, relates to lactation...
These questions were not asked.
steve bannon
This is Bobby Kennedy's book, because there's a big event coming up that we'll be able to tell you about later, the real Anthony Fauci, which will shock you.
How did this guy go on national TV, day in and day out, with all these other great doctors from the best, Baylor University, Johns Hopkins, all these renowned places, say every day, safe and effective.
That was the mantra.
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How did that happen?
naomi wolf
I mean, you know, looking at these almost 500 reports, and again, they're raw reports, and looking, comparing that to the scripts, which, you know, have been identified for CDC spokespeople, Anthony Fauci, the, you know, Vaccine Confidence Program, that money, you know, our tax dollars.
steve bannon
A billion dollars.
naomi wolf
Exactly.
It does, they so don't match up.
steve bannon
They went to Fox News and Newsmax, not to Orem.
naomi wolf
They didn't come to us either.
It does seem like this is preliminary, but they so don't match up that this does seem like one of the biggest cover-ups in history.
The FDA is on some of these documents, these confidential documents.
steve bannon
Is this regulatory capture?
Is this where you see Big Pharma just runs the show?
naomi wolf
So I'm not an expert on that, but to me as a citizen of America with a body and as a mother, the fact that children and pregnant women were so at risk, that some pregnancies were lost, that there were so many adverse events that were so dangerous, and that they were not apparently, I don't see all of these reported to VAERS, which one of the volunteers pointed out was obligatory of Pfizer, and the contrast of that with
You know, what the, what Rochelle Walensky was saying about safe and effective, what Dr. Fauci was saying about safe and effective, to this day what the ads paid for with your tax dollars on every news outlet, except yours and mine practically, are saying about safe and effective, they do not match up.
And so some, a lot of people lied and there was a lot of money at stake.
That's what it looks like to me from the evidence.
steve bannon
I want to talk about process for a second.
First off, your book, The Body of Others, comes out 31 May.
When will people be able to order it on Amazon?
naomi wolf
I don't know the answer to that yet, but they can get on the early pre-order mailing list by emailing info at dailyclout.io.
And it should be a matter of days before it's up on Amazon.
steve bannon
The day it goes on Amazon, I want you to come back on.
The cover alone makes you want to buy the book and The Bodies of Others by Naomi Wolf out 31 May.
It'll have a lot of these stories in it.
I just want to talk about 2,500 members of the posse, 250 lawyers now.
You've crowdsourced this.
Do you have competence?
Does the New York Times have a major investigative team on this?
Does the Washington Post, you think, have a major investigative team?
I mean, why is it Naomi Wolf and a bunch of well-intentioned, smart volunteers from War Room and these great lawyers in a crowdsourced situation where you're scraping money up to get a program manager?
Is Tom Hamburger and the great team at Washington Post, it's 60 Minutes, it's the New York Times.
Do you see any, do you get a feel there's any competition out there for you guys to break these stories?
naomi wolf
I wish there were, you know, we're not, I mean, I could cry right now for the looking at the abdication of responsibility and duty of my fellow journalists and of legacy news outlets.
This is, I mean, this is the biggest story, one of the biggest stories of the last 20 years.
I mean, this is as big as Vietnam.
I mean, these deaths, You're saying that this is the equivalent of the Pentagon Papers, and you have the types of cover-ups that you're seeing, potential cover-ups.
steve bannon
You've got to get to the facts and you haven't done your preliminary report, but what you're seeing right now Institutionally, this is what the old 60 Minutes would be over with Mike Wallace.
This is what the New York Times that did the Pentagon Papers used to do.
This is what the Washington Post should be doing with the Woodward Wargate.
This is the types of things institutionally they were all over, right?
Corporate malfeasance, hiding of information, non-transparency.
naomi wolf
Well, it used to be called journalism, right?
I mean, this is journalism.
I mean, to me as a journalist, a gigantic trove of secret documents like Watergate gets revealed and journalists are not all over it.
Why not?
And I will tell you why not.
It relates to The Blaze and their FOIA.
And it relates to the story in the Columbia Journalism Review.
And I talk about this in my book, The Bodies of Others.
ABC, NBC, BBC, The Guardian, The New York Times.
They all took money from Pharma or they got money for the Vaccine Confidence Program.
The money was used to hound and abuse and smear people like me, people like Dr. Alexander, people like Dr. Malone, you know, and on and on and on trying to raise their voice.
steve bannon
Did they have, not just a journalistic, did they have a moral obligation To do due diligence before they took that money and put out safe and effective.
If Tony Fauci and these guys were telling them it was safe and effective, did they still have, as journalists and as journalistic institutions, an obligation to do their own independent due diligence before they took the money?
naomi wolf
So two huge things right one is when I'm seeing this tranche of crimes and harms and wrongdoing and deaths versus the it's all fine messaging what I see having worked you know around the White House is a train of deniability.
These reporters, don't show us, don't show us, we don't know, we don't know.
So no one saw these documents until a court said you have to reveal them.
So the New York Times was able to say it's safe and effective.
And I remember tweeting to Apoorva Mondavilli and I can't even check my own Twitter stream because I was suspended.
She's the New York Times reporter and she's like, it's safe and effective for pregnant women.
I said, show me the data.
Where are the data?
How do you know?
This is a scandal of epic proportions.
So they were able to not look and and by not looking they didn't see and they could take the money But they should have disclosed that they took the money This is a scandal of epic proportions short commercial break Monitors us censors us deep platforms us Conservatives have been helpless to do anything about it, until now.
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steve bannon
Okay, welcome back.
Breaking news.
Erdogan has had a phone call with Putin this morning and said he's talking him into a ceasefire.
Turkey's going to be the guarantor of this.
And the oligarchs.
We said this was going to happen.
We told you five weeks ago it was going to happen here.
And all those people didn't have to die to get to this place.
That's the bottom line.
Also breaking news, Harvard-Harris poll, let's say this, a center-left poll, not a war room poll, Harvard-Harris poll, just breaking right now, Donald Trump up by 6 points, 47-41 over Joe Biden in a rematch.
Got to get to 2022 first.
Here's what I don't understand.
Why, before I go, we've got Dr. Maloney's about to head to Paris for this conference.
I want to get him on here.
But I got to ask you, the FDA, why did they try to withhold?
It took a federal court to say, you've got to put these documents out now.
Why did the FDA not want the American people to see this information?
For 75 years.
It sounds like what Earl Warren said, not in your lifetime are you going to see information about the Kennedy assassination.
And we understand how that's still a scar on the country.
What was the FDA thinking?
naomi wolf
It's, you know, there isn't analysis of the communications between the FDA and Pfizer that I have seen yet.
It's all documentation of this massive experiment on us, basically.
So we're not going to know unless we FOIA those communications, unless the additional tranches will show those communications.
But it's obvious that they don't want this disclosed, and indeed it was at the FDA.
steve bannon
I remember somebody on this show a year and a half, almost two years ago, that warned us about the Nazi doctor mentality.
That was Naomi Wolf.
And people said, oh, she can't say that, she can't say that.
Okay, I'm just saying, when you start putting the facts together, it gets pretty scary.
Dr. Malone, you're heading to Paris.
We had Dr. Corey on last night.
What's in Paris and why is this important for this worldwide fight we've got going on right now between the powers that be and the good guys?
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So apologies for the bad link and a shout out to Naomi for a job well done.
I'm so grateful for what you're doing and what the podcast is doing.
This is the second international COVID conference.
Remember, the first one was in Rome, and that's where there was the Physicians Declaration read that included the words, Crime Against Humanity, describing what's been going on.
We have a collection of physicians and scientists from all over the world.
Originally, this was organized by Peter Rauch in Marseilles and Luc Fontenay in Paris.
Unfortunately, Luc passed away.
So that's why it's split like this.
On the fourth day, there will be a rally in Paris.
We have many of the Americans that you have had on your show, Steve, thank you very much, are going to be speaking on all days.
And we're going to be covering the censorship, the propaganda, the repression of early treatment, the repression of information about the adverse events.
I'm going to be talking on my latest findings concerning the role of Fidel Giordano.
in the mRNA vaccines and that relationship to this acquired immunodeficiency syndrome.
I'll be serving as the Master of Ceremonies for the last two days, which are in Paris, including the Rally Day, which will be in Massey, about 20 minutes outside of Paris.
The website, Carmen has a link for that if you want to put it up.
You can find it at internationalcovidsummit.com.
And it has the schedules for both days.
Thanks for letting me pump this, Steve.
steve bannon
Real quickly, how do people follow you on social media?
Because you're one to follow Dr. Malone non-stop on this.
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Alwaysgetter.com, R.W.
Malone, MD, is our preferred go-to.
The sub-stack has a lot of fascinating granularity, including an op-ed today that was guest-provided by Tony Robinson.
Dr. Malone, good trip.
We'll check in with you while you're there and particularly the rally.
Thank you so much.
Dr. Mullen, good trip.
steve bannon
We'll check in with you while you're there, and particularly the rally.
Thank you, sir.
We've got a couple of minutes.
We've got a couple of minutes.
Just the processing going forward about when you think you'd have a preliminary report, and do you need more volunteers?
Because people are blowing me up nonstop saying, hey, how do we become a part of this?
It's like a mini movement.
naomi wolf
That's wonderful.
And, you know, it occurred to us that this model doesn't have to end here, right?
I mean, there are so many things that citizen activists, citizen investigators, and journalists like these 2,500 can sink their teeth into going forward to hold the powerful accountable.
One of them is legislation, right?
If you had 2,500 people going through the CARES Act, we would have seen immediately that there's wholesale bribery of most of our civic institutions.
So yes, we need all the volunteers we can.
steve bannon
And how do people get there?
naomi wolf
I'm sorry, you go to dailycloud.io and you go to campaigns and you choose the Pfizer campaign and you sign up and now we've got the talented Amy Kelly program manager to herd the cats and to facilitate the communications.
steve bannon
How do you get to the Daily Clout website?
How do people get to your social media?
naomi wolf
Dailyclout.io, over on the right hand side you choose campaigns and then you go to the Pfizer war room campaign.
You sign up, you'll get a welcome email and Amy will take it from there.
Otherwise, I'm Dr. Naomi Arwolf on Getter, and we need to take this by storm.
steve bannon
Are you still on Twitter?
Are you suspended?
naomi wolf
No, I can't even see my old tweets.
I'm completely banned.
I'm a non-person on Twitter.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to actually talk afterwards.
We're going to come back in the next couple of days to talk about your webinar on civil and criminal.
People are still buzzing about it and how we worked together to put that back out.
Okay, Ben Berquam, Ben Harnwell have live Getter Hitch right after this, and of course go on Getter.
You've got this major, major conference down with the Hoffs, Dean Bachman down at Regent about globalism.
In the rise of authoritarianism with globalism, that's five hours all on Getter.
So you've got your choice today, all types of things happening.
Dr. Wolf, thank you.
Thank you for coming by.
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Thank you.
naomi wolf
Thanks for having me.
steve bannon
I want everybody to go on my Getter account and tell me who won the big hair contest here.
And you can be brutally frank, as you often are.
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