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Episode 1,733 – Charlie Kirk’s War With Twitter; Invasion On The Southern BorderEpisode 1,733 – Charlie Kirk’s War With Twitter; Invasion On The Southern Border
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unidentified
In your view, does President Zelensky need to cede any Ukrainian territory in order to gain a ceasefire with Russia, or is that completely off the table?
And then also, do you think that Russia needs to be removed from the G20?
joe biden
On the latter point, my answer is yes.
It depends on the G20.
Um, I that was raised today, and, uh, I raised the possibility if that can't be done.
If Indonesia and others do not agree, then we should, in my view, asked to have both, uh, um, Ukraine be able to attend the meetings as well as, uh, um, basically Ukraine being able to attend the G 20 meeting observed.
With regard to what was the first question?
That is a total judgment based on Ukraine.
you Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine.
I don't believe that they're going to have to do that, but that's a judgment.
There's negotiations that are discussions, I should say, that have taken place that I have not been part of, including Ukrainians.
And it's their judgment to make.
unidentified
You reevaluate perhaps some of these things that have been off the table up until now.
So up until now, we have focused very intently on giving the Ukrainians the tools they need to be victorious, to stand tall against Russia and literally push them back.
If Russia does cross these lines, it creates, as Senator Ernst said, an urgency of creating a framework in which we can analyze these issues and respond appropriately.
We've been trying very hard to avoid the start of a world war.
If you had a world war right now, it would result in millions of deaths almost instantaneously.
It is not something that we ever want to have to do.
And so strategically, what Senator Ernst and for myself and the other senators on this CODEL believe is that we want to do everything we can to forestall that.
We don't want to have to get that far, but Russia needs to understand How strongly we feel about these lines that shouldn't be crossed because when you start engaging in the use of nuclear weapons or chemical weapons, you have crossed a significant line of creating enormous humanitarian outcries.
We believe that President Putin and his generals have committed war crimes.
joe biden
Nothing more to report.
With regard to food shortages, yes we did talk about food shortages.
And it's going to be real.
The price of these sanctions is not just imposed upon Russia.
It's imposed upon an awful lot of countries as well, including European countries and our country as well.
unidentified
The purpose of the sanctions has always been and continues to be deterrence.
What about the pre-invasion sanctions?
You didn't answer that part of my question.
Is the president looking at sanctions ahead of an invasion any differently than he has been up until this point, given the escalation that we're seeing from Russia?
The president believes that sanctions are intended to deter, and in order for them to work to deter, they have to be set up in a way where if Putin moves, then the costs are imposed.
joe biden
Let's get something straight.
You remember, if you covered me from the very beginning, I did not say that, in fact, The sanctions would deter him.
Sanctions never deter.
You keep talking about that.
Sanctions never deter.
steve bannon
We're into it now.
It's Thursday 24th of March year over Lord 2022 you have The the the head of the regime Joe Biden Talking about these as we've been talking these peace negotiations about the bit in the ass what's going on?
you have He's sitting there saying we're not involved in them and it's up to the Ukraine's So that the territorial integrity the sovereignty and the self-determination of the Ukrainian people are in their hands.
That's fine But we are adding support here in this NATO conference.
You look at people like Joni Ernst and Kristen Gillibrand.
I mean, these are the towering intellects you have over there.
They're talking about a situation of using tactical nuclear weapons.
She said right there, a U.S.
Senator, you would have millions killed instantaneously.
And you've seen how they've been all over the map.
Oh, no, the sanctions are going to deter, deter, deter, deter, deter.
That was the White House State Department, all of them, Defense Department, weeks and weeks and weeks.
Now, Biden, we never say anything about deterrence or they have no earthy idea what they're doing.
And this is now getting scary as we're funneling arms in there constantly into this, into this, into the killing fields of Ukraine and causing more and more casualties among the Ukrainian people.
You know, Larry Fink, on CNN, he put his report out.
He controls $10 trillion.
Was it BlackRock?
That's the end of globalization.
We're the anti-globalists.
We're the nationalists.
But he's talking, he's really, the subtext there is the end of the dollar empire has destroyed the U.S.
dollar.
That's the end of globalization he's talking about.
He won't say it, but that's what it is.
It's got massive impacts.
This thing is so complicated, but you've got to look through the fog of war.
And these warmongers and the feckless, The incompetent and the dangerous.
That's what this team is.
Republicans and Democrats.
So you got the Republicans, you got a lot of conservative media with the pom-poms on.
You gotta get, you know, gotta arm Ukraine, gotta go into Ukraine, gotta do Ukraine.
We're gonna go, we got the great Charlie Kirk to kick this off.
After Charlie, we're gonna go to the border.
And we're going to go into Mexico.
When this Title 42 comes off, we've got pictures.
There's going to be an invasion.
There's going to be three or four hundred thousand in a month.
That's the size of Patton's army that cut across central, southern France in World War II.
Every month now we have something bigger than the army that landed at D-Day.
The army at D-Day was 156,000 Canadians, British, and Americans.
I think it was 158,000, 160,000 last month.
186,000 the month before that.
That's the border.
That's the sovereignty, the self-determination of the people in the Rio Grande Valley, the hard-working Hispanics.
The sovereignty and territorial integrity of the United States of America and her citizens.
They're now openly talking about a tactical... Look, I spent eight years, I think, in the Navy, close to eight years, a little over eight years in the Navy, four years at sea, with tactical nuclear weapons.
You didn't have this kind of loose talk about using tactical nuclear weapons?
Oh, yeah, we can... No, really, if they cross the red line... For the eastern border of... Russian-speaking eastern border of Ukraine, have you lost your mind?
When we've got an enemy in Beijing, the Chinese Communist Party, the transnational criminal organization, that is focused on our total destruction, and they're winning all of this?
You don't think they'd love to see a little tactical nuclear war on that side of the Eurasian landmass?
While they're driving to Taiwan?
That we are in very, very dangerous territory.
And on top of that, I want to bring in Charlie Kirk, one of the most prominent populist nationalists, not just in the United States.
His voice is listened to by people and he's watched Turning Point USA, but he's watched by people all over the world in culture and politics.
And the other day he's taken down on Twitter, suspended on Twitter.
And I can't even get my head around this.
And then Tucker Carlson also, and I think Dan Bongino's thrown into the fight now.
You got three of the most prominent guys in the United States.
For deadnaming, Charlie, in the middle of a war, in the middle of an invasion over the southern border, the middle of this cultural meltdown, this huge titanic red tsunami that's coming to wipe out the Democratic Party and destroy it in November, please explain to me why one of the most prominent voices in the country, populist nationalist voices, why did Twitter suspend you, sir?
charlie kirk
Well, I think you're exactly right.
It looks like the last gasp for the dying regime.
I mean, always when a regime is about to fall, you can't quite figure out what they're doing.
There's irrational behavior there.
So I think you're totally right on that.
So, yeah, I was accused of dead naming Levine, who Biden appointed to be this four star admiral.
If you read my tweet, I said Richard Levine was a man for 54 years, had a family and children.
Everything I said was factual.
In fact, I probably went above and beyond, quite honestly, Steve, to try to abide by the stupid rules that Twitter has, but then all the activists of the Alphabet Mafia, the trans cartel, found my tweet and mass-reported it.
A week later, by the way, and we log on to Twitter and they say, you must delete this tweet and then you can get access to your Twitter account back.
Like, yeah, actually, that's not going to happen.
We're not going to bend the knee.
We're not going to admit we did something wrong and we didn't.
For just spreading the truth for saying something that very well could have been a Wikipedia entry, which was all factual information about this person that Biden appointed.
unidentified
In fact, I don't think it's what did you do?
steve bannon
I don't think people understand what did you do was wrong.
He uses his name.
Right?
charlie kirk
Yes.
steve bannon
And so what exactly did you violate?
What did you do that they made you take it down?
They said you were hate speech?
I think people are lost on exactly what Twitter crime did you commit?
charlie kirk
So it's called deadnaming, which is a new phenomenon out of the university that of course has now made itself into, has found itself, I should say, into Silicon Valley companies.
Deadnaming Is when you even mention the name of a trans individual where they used to use prior.
Their birth certificate name, if you will.
So for example, you could be banned from Twitter for saying Muhammad Ali's name was Cassius Clay.
And so this is now a massive thought crime, if you will, on the Twitterverse where you're not allowed to use the biological name or the birth name of a person.
So that's one of the rules.
And now they're saying that you lose access to Twitter.
It's harassment.
It's hate speech.
In fact, Now that I have done this, not having access to a Twitter account, meanwhile some of the most oppressive governments on the planet still have access to Twitter accounts, that's one of the things that they now find some sort of moral crime on Twitter.
So these are the new rules, Steve, that if you even mention the name that used to exist, if you even say that name used to exist, you could lose access to your 1.7 million Twitter followers.
And Steve, I only mention this just to, you know, give an example of how big of a platform this is.
Axios came out and said we had the third most engaged Twitter account two years ago.
And so now I have to admit that I did something wrong when I didn't, just to be able to regain access to it.
We're not going to do it.
And so it's your move, Twitter.
steve bannon
This is, this is, I said, you're one of the most prominent voices out there because of the engagement and the power of what you talk about and the ideas.
But to get, this is what I just want to make sure I understand this, to get the ban removed, you have to admit that you did, that you committed hate speech.
Is that the point?
charlie kirk
Yeah, basically there's this red button, there's this delete button, which is very like Maoist social credit score like, and in order to regain access to our Twitter account, you have to press the red button and it deletes the tweet.
And so you have to almost go through this kind of humiliation process of like, we're gonna teach you a lesson here, like never again.
And like, actually, I'm not gonna press the button.
It's not gonna happen.
Like maybe two years ago, when I would have been a little more naive about how this whole game is played.
I know what's going on here.
They want to try to make me, get me into a posture of social conformity and social control.
And they also want to basically put on this social media show trial.
Like, oh, if we can shut up Charlie Kirk, then the millions of other young people out there that might be dealing with these issues or communicating about them, then they might be less likely to speak out.
They're trying to basically make a culture of silence against conservatives by taking out people like me, people like Tucker Carlson, people like Dan Bongino, people like the Babylon Bee. As you mentioned, Steve, this has now gone across the top levels on the conservative kind of Twitter sphere in just the last couple days, all around this particular tweet and issue. By the way, it's like the Red Guard is.
steve bannon
It's Charlie Kirk's struggle session.
That's what they want.
They want the humiliation.
You've got to sit there and go.
It's a struggle session.
These guys play right out of mouths.
It's the culture's Marxist playbook.
So all I can say is that War Room was banned.
unidentified
We were permanently banned two years ago, so we're a little ahead of you.
steve bannon
We're the pathfinder.
Yeah, exactly.
So where do you go from here?
Listen, here's the thing.
It is a massive platform for you.
You not just have an important voice in the middle of, they're trying to get us into a war, and particularly since you know the Chinese Communist Party as well as anybody, your voice has to be out there on the biggest platforms available to you.
So you've got a minute.
We'd like to hold you over for a few minutes in the next segment.
What does Charlie Kirk do?
charlie kirk
So this is, we've made the decision not to delete the tweet, but Steve, it doesn't come easily because, you know, forget the amount of people.
I know for certain senators and decision makers are reading my tweets about why we shouldn't send US troops to Ukraine.
And like, I felt like I was making a difference, at least for a while until the recent bill, but at least the point is I was, I feel like I was influencing the zeitgeist and the discourse.
So, but we believe that playing the game of this kind of Maoist social credit system, the struggle session, as you perfectly put it, What kind of example would I be setting for our millions of students at Turning Point USA if I bend the knee, if I capitulate?
So it's not going to happen.
We're going to hold the line.
We refuse to push the red button.
And Twitter is now going to have to own the fact that they're censoring it.
And that's why they do this, Steve.
I know we have a break, but they want to say, oh, no, no, no.
The user admitted it was wrong.
And but what if I don't?
steve bannon
Exactly.
charlie kirk
What are you going to do, Twitter?
You going to ban me?
Your move.
steve bannon
The reason they've done this too, you said it was a week afterwards, the reason they've done that is the left understands.
You were one of the most prominent voices for rationality about this situation in the Ukraine case.
Short commercial break.
Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA, one of the most prominent populist nationalists, not just here in the United States, but throughout this planet.
Now temporarily banned from Twitter in the showdown.
Charlie Kirk's not budging.
Be back in the worm in just a moment.
unidentified
Okay, welcome back. I'm going to be talking about the pandemic. I'm going to be talking about the pandemic. I'm going to be talking about the pandemic. I'm going to be talking I've got Charlie Kirk from Turning Point USA.
steve bannon
Charlie, here's the issue.
You've got Charlie Kirk.
You've now got the great Tucker Carlson.
You've got Dan Bongino, a fighter.
That's 27 Yankees, Murderers Row, right?
So what are we going to do about this?
And what particularly can this show and this audience do?
Because we've got to somehow break this logjam for the simple reason is that You know, geopolitically, financially, southern border sovereignty.
We've got so many massive issues.
We're in a fourth turning.
We can't have Charlie Kirk sidelined by a bunch of cultural Marxists that are just loving the struggle session you're going through.
charlie kirk
Yeah, so they can't ban us all, and so I encourage people... Dan Bongino's tweet is still up right now.
Tucker's is silenced and censored.
Try to retweet Dan Bongino's tweet, which is just a screenshot of mine.
We need to push the boundaries on this.
How far is Twitter really willing to go?
Does Twitter want to become a publicly traded Democrat super PAC?
If that's true, then fine.
Their share price is going to plummet.
They still make tons of money off of conservative commentary and conservative voices.
And so I think we need the War Room Army to amplify this message and Look, whether we can win or not remains to be seen, but I totally agree with you that at this critical moment, we can't have some of the most influential voices, not just mine, but Tucker and Dan Bongino and the Babylon Bee, which is incredibly effective in the satire space as well.
steve bannon
I agree.
By the way, since Getter launched on July 4th, and it's not totally related, they've lost half their market cap.
Twitter, that's because conservatives are banning Twitter, right?
They've lost $30 billion in market caps to all those guys, all their options are under war.
Terrible people, terrible people.
Charlie, real quickly, your assessment, particularly today with this madness that's going on, they're talking about tactical nuclear weapons.
What's your assessment right now of Ukraine, and what is your recommendation here?
charlie kirk
Well, first of all, I want to comment on one of the clips you played earlier, Steve, which is Senator Joni Ernst.
Did she promise the voters of Iowa she was going to go kind of be partners with Kirsten Gillibrand on her foreign policy?
Like, really?
Is that what the mandate the voters of Iowa gave Joni Ernst?
I mean, just to see that kind of image, that uniparty image, is just so repulsive because the people of Iowa showed up in great numbers and defeated a very well-funded Democrat challenger, by the way.
Not too long.
It was last cycle.
Because she really positioned herself as an ally of President Trump and his view of foreign policy, which is prudent, which is America first, not trying to, as John Quincy Adams said, you know, searching around the world in search of monsters to destroy.
Like that's that was not the message that Donald Trump ran on.
That's not why Donald Trump won Iowa by double digits.
And Joni Ernst was able to get those coattails.
So, look, I mean, there's some listeners, I'm sure, of your program and there's some of our podcast.
That still want America to play a heavy hand in Ukraine, and here's the message I have that I think we can all agree on, which is this, which is, do you trust Mark Milley to pull that off?
Like, let's say it's the greatest idea in the world, which I think it's a really bad idea.
Do you really trust the people that gave us Afghanistan to pull off something complicated, complex, and nuanced with the highest stakes imaginable?
And I think every single person of the conservative base When they really have a message, really have a moment to kind of sober themselves outside of the passion and the emotion of what's happening in Ukraine and say, you know what?
No, I don't trust the general that testifies in front of the US Senate Armed Forces Armed Services Committee that says white rage is a great threat to the United States to now lead us through a very complicated situation in Ukraine.
And so some people say, well, let's just send weapons.
Wait a second.
We're not really good at sending weapons.
We couldn't get $85 billion of our own weapons out of Afghanistan.
In fact, we have a track record of arming the enemy more than actually arming the ally that we say.
And so I think that, Steve, one of the most effective ways we need to position ourselves for some of the skeptics out there that have a heart for the Ukrainian people, which I share, by the way, because so many Ukrainian people are getting wrongly targeted in this entire mess, is We need to indict the entire regime.
If you don't trust this national security apparatus, this regime at all, then you should be very apprehensive.
In fact, you should be oppositional to giving them more power right now at the highest stakes game in a generation.
steve bannon
Charlie, since you're not on Twitter, how do people follow you?
How do they get the turning point?
How do they, every day, because you were putting out quite, not just the volume, but quality of comments.
You're right, people in the imperial capital were watching.
So how do people follow you now?
charlie kirk
So we have our podcast.
People can subscribe on Apple Podcast or Spotify.
If you're listening on the War Room Podcast, if you also give the Charlie Kirk Show podcast a subscription, we'd appreciate that.
TPUSA.com, Turning Point USA.
And we're on Getter.
We're on Truth Social.
We are also on Parler.
We're also on all the other platforms right now, as it is right now.
But we're holding the line against Twitter.
I hope that what we're doing right now to not push the red button.
My hope, Steve, if nothing else, is to inspire other people to hold the line at work, in their community, with friends or family that might be giving them social pressure to say something they don't believe.
And so I always tell people that it's going to cost you something.
Okay, if it's going to cost me my Twitter account, then so be it.
And that's the line I'm going to draw because I can't with good, a good conscious and with good faith, tell our amazing activists at Turning Point, and tell all the moms and dads that listen to us, hey, go to that school board meeting, you might lose your friends, while I will Kind of cowardly push that red button.
So if it's going to cost me something, so be it.
We all know that's what it's going to take to restore our Republic and take back our country.
steve bannon
And basically the posse should do, and Captain Bannon and the social media team should do, to go with what Dan Bongino did.
Just retweet your banned tweet and let's Facebook and Twitter deal with it.
charlie kirk
Yeah, copy paste the banned tweet and see what Twitter will do.
Are they going to ban a million accounts?
We'll see how the stock price performs after that.
steve bannon
Charlie Kirk, patriot and hero, thank you for joining us here in the War Room.
charlie kirk
Thank you, Steve.
Thank you.
steve bannon
Okay, let's everybody in this posse, all of you there on Twitter, let's do it.
Captain Ben, let's copy and paste this and let's move some merchandise here.
This is ridiculous.
Particularly in the middle of the situation, a guy like Charlie Kirk.
Absolutely absurd.
Let's go to Real America's Voice, Heather Mullins, breaking news out of Wisconsin.
Really amazing development today.
Heather, tell us what went on about the integrity of our voting, ma'am.
unidentified
Yeah, so two of the biggest patriots leading the election integrity charge here in America, Katherine Engelbrecht, the founder of Prove the Vote, and her lead investigator, Greg Phillips, testified before a Wisconsin Assembly committee today about their investigation into the ballot trafficking and what it revealed.
And so I took some notes here that I want to really highlight for you guys, because one of the biggest takeaways were the five components that their investigation found in all the states that they looked into.
And that was inaccurate voter rolls, mass mail-in ballots, NGOs, which are non-government agencies, nonprofits, things like that, privately funded Dropboxes, and then money that funded these traffickers.
So the big takeaways that came about in their testimony today was that their geofencing, they purchased trillions of cell phone pings and were able to map out these ballot traffickers' movement.
And what they found was in Milwaukee, Green Bay, and Racine, 138 unique devices went to 3,568 Dropboxes.
Now, I want to point out the criteria that needed to be met in order to be one of those 138 devices.
You had to have visited five of those non-government agencies or nonprofits.
You had to visit 26 Dropboxes, and both of those had to occur between October 20th and November 3rd of the 2020 election.
So this is not something that just people were walking by.
They met these criteria in order to be considered one of those 138 people.
steve bannon
Now, of that- Hold on, Heather, hang on real quickly.
I know we only got like four minutes.
Give me those stats again, because that's brutal.
Give me how many devices and how many Dropboxes.
unidentified
138 unique devices went to 3,568 Dropboxes, and each of those 138 visited five non-government agencies and 26 Dropboxes a piece minimum during October 20th to November 3rd, 2020.
visited five non-government agencies and 26 drop boxes a piece minimum during October 20th to November 3rd, 2020.
And here's the kicker, right? The second big takeaway is 14 of those devices were found to have participated in one or more violent riots in Wisconsin for a group called the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project, which is a group funded by federal law enforcement agencies all over the world that track violent extremist terrorism and things of that nature.
So 14 of those individuals were actually found to have participated in one or more violent riots in Wisconsin.
So we all know That the riots of 2020 and 2019, a lot of them were BLM, Antifa activists, so this is a big problem.
That's over 10% of these traffickers were participating in violent riots, Steve.
steve bannon
They can prove, you're convinced, they can prove massive, not just ballot harvesting, but ballot trafficking.
This is now a professional operation of people getting paid, Heather?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
So their investigation, they've actually been working with authorities, federal and state authorities, and it's actually already helped lead to several arrests of one conviction out of Arizona so far.
The big thing that I want to point out is the Democrats on this committee today were asking Catherine and Greg, they were like, you know, are you saying these were illegal votes?
And she was like, I'm not saying they were illegal votes because their investigation hasn't confirmed one way or another.
And I want to point that out because the liberal media is going to run with this and say, Look, they admitted that they weren't illegal votes, but they also didn't say that they were legal votes.
We don't know where those ballots came from.
And there's the idea is that they picked these ballots up from stash houses and then dropped them off at the drop boxes.
But there is no evidence that these ballots came from a legal voter and that those ballots were the one.
steve bannon
But it doesn't.
Yeah, but it also but but it also doesn't make a difference because you can't you can't You can't do this.
It's against the rules in Wisconsin.
But look, that's a topic for another day.
Heather, great report.
How do people get to you and follow you and follow up on this?
unidentified
Yeah, so add me on social media.
I'm on Truth Social.
I'm on Getter.
I'm still on Twitter, knock on wood.
And I'm on Telegram as well.
It's at Talk Mullins.
Follow me at Talk Mullins.
And I'm going to post the full report from Truth About.
So make sure you follow me at Talk Mullins.
steve bannon
Okay, we'll put it up on War Room as soon as we get it.
Heather Mullins, Real America's Voice investigative reporter, thank you.
Big news out of Wisconsin.
By the way, true to the vote, Kathleen Engelberg has been at this for years.
She's one of the toughest, smartest people in this space.
So, she is from Georgia to Wisconsin.
She's done this geofencing, which they never anticipated.
That's where they screwed up using these phones.
So, Heather, thank you very much.
Okay, short commercial break.
We've done Charlie Kirk.
We've done Heather Mullins in Wisconsin on this breaking news.
And now we're going to go to the real invasion that we're worried about.
It ain't the eastern Russian-speaking border of Ukraine.
It's the southern border of the United States of America.
We're going to go into Mexico.
We're going to go down to the Rio Grande Valley.
All of it next in the War Room.
unidentified
The epidemic is a demon and we cannot let this demon hide.
War Room.
Pandemic.
Okay, go over together.
steve bannon
Captain Bannon is going to show you what to do on your Twitter account.
We need everybody to have Charlie Kirk's back.
It's very important.
So Captain Bannon is going to show you how to cut and paste Charlie's tweet and then let's go have his back.
Twitter won't ban everybody.
We hope.
Never know.
We've been off for, I think, two years.
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Okay, can we play the clip?
We're kind of jammed for time.
Let's play the clip.
unidentified
Beyond our often cruel and counterproductive choices that we've made over the years when it comes to immigration policy, the language that we use to speak about immigrants can often have dehumanizing effects.
For example, in the Immigration and Nationality Act, it's replete with references to quote-unquote aliens.
And court opinions written by federal judges across the country can be found referring to undocumented persons as, quote, illegal aliens.
Now, I know NASA has put a man on the moon and there are billionaires increasingly exploring space.
But let's be clear.
No person is an alien.
And no human being can be illegal.
steve bannon
Okay, let's go to Mexico.
Remember, Title 42, which is about the COVID restrictions they're attempting to take off, could be off in a week or two, or maybe even less.
Let's go to Tapachula.
Blue Ramirez, the great investigative reporter, is down there.
Last time we saw Blue, he was being held up by a couple of bad guys.
Blue, are you okay?
oscar blue ramirez
Yes, sir.
We are right here reporting on the south border in Tapachula, sir.
steve bannon
So tell us what's going on.
Todd Bensman is telling us that we're building a huge wave of illegal aliens that we're going to cross and invade into the country.
Is that going to happen, sir?
oscar blue ramirez
Mr. Bannon, the situation is going to get, you know, exacerbated as days go by.
Now there's more than 60,000 migrants scattered all over Tabachula right here waiting to move to the north and to exit also the state of Chiapas and now they are forming and they're convoking another caravan to move on the next Wednesday as they are already preparing the protection claim documents to move freely into the borders.
Now these 60,000, they are waiting And they already heard, all of them, about the Title 42, that they might just be lifted by the President Joe Biden.
They already heard this.
So, by statements of migrants that are coming in from Venezuela, Central America, and South America, they're talking about that there's a humongous influx that there is going to move if this Title 42 is lifted, talking about between 2 million to 5 million people that are coming.
Yesterday, we did interviews with people from Cameroon, Ghana, Congo, And also, right now we talk to people from China that in a really disrespectful and, you know, in a really, you know, angry way, let me rephrase the word disrespectful, in a really angry way they refer themselves to the Communist political party of Xi Jinping.
They say, You know, in some words, we hate you.
We do not want you.
We despise you because you're taking away our freedom and you're taking away our rights.
So there's a lot of people from all across the world, Mr. Bannon, right now in the South border, people from the Middle East, people from Russia, also people from Ukraine, and then you got now people from China arriving in this massive way, you know, if Title 42 gets lifted.
steve bannon
Blue, you just said $2 million to $5 million.
Where are you getting this?
I know Todd Bensman and you guys calculated there's $60,000 to maybe $70,000, $75,000.
Where are you getting the $2 million to $5 million?
Is that the supply of folks you think are coming up through Latin America, Central America, and coming from all over the world up through Southern Mexico?
Is that your estimate?
oscar blue ramirez
Yes sir, that's around what migrants have told us and also we have investigated with authorities as they are registering how many people are registering on every country to come as a yearly day basis and ultimately now they have a humongous number of between two to five million.
We have asked several migrants from Venezuela, from Cuba, from Central America and South America and they're saying that the jungle between the Darien Gap that is in Panama and the other country that is Costa Rica, it is flooded, flooded with immigrants.
They're trying to move specifically from Nigeria.
As you see behind me, there are a few of them that they are arriving to ask for the humanitarian visa to move freely into the north borders into the country of the United States, sir.
steve bannon
Are the Mexican officials letting them fill out these visas so they can transit Mexico up to the northern border of Mexico?
oscar blue ramirez
We have a lack of resources right now, Mr. Van, and that is the number one problem, and they're creating a bottleneck over here.
That is why Tom Bensman has emphatically said about the ant operation, because this ant operation, it is just incentivizing the organized crime.
Just yesterday, it was reported that another semi-truck was in an accident, and more than 60 migrants from Cuba You know, we're in this accident, so you have this ant operation that is incentivizing the cartel, that is incentivizing the organized crime, and the authorities of Mexico are not doing anything about it to keep this flow to enter.
This is what open borders would basically do to your country, and what basically it has been doing to Central America, and it is incentivized, Mr. Biden, by the Biden administration.
steve bannon
Uh, Blue, I want you to be very safe.
You had an incident down there last time.
We will come back to you tomorrow on the tomorrow morning show.
So, Blue Ramirez, how do people follow you and get updates on this?
Because it's shocking.
We keep telling people it's coming.
It's probably coming in the first week of April.
There's going to be a mass and we're not faulting.
We're not demonizing any of these people.
They're actually making a rational decision.
Hey, if it's open, Let's make a dash for it.
It's a one-time good deal, and we're going to do it.
This is what the Biden administration has done to this country.
This is why elections have consequences, and stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.
How do people keep up with you, Blue?
oscar blue ramirez
Of course, Real Americans Voice News, sir.
OscarBlueRamirez.com, that is our website.
YouTube, Oscar Blue, and also Getter, Oscar Blue, and Border Network News, sir.
Thanks so much, sir, for having me.
steve bannon
Okay, I want to go to, is Auden up?
Let's go to Auden.
Let's go to Auden and Acuna.
That's at the northern border of Mexico right there across from Del Rio, Texas.
Auden, give us the latest update there.
The people understand they got this human tidal wave that's going to start here in a week or so and start heading north?
unidentified
No, they don't understand yet.
Yesterday, I posted a video of the about 100 migrants that were underneath the international bridge between Del Rio and Acuna.
And the local press somehow decided to question that video and claiming that there are no migrants in Acuña on the border town.
So they're clueless on what's to come and hit them.
And this morning, as I was on your show, I got sent this footage from the NGO in Del Rio.
And that's all the migrants that have crossed in the past few weeks.
Um that are being bused to San Antonio and then from there they get dispersed throughout the United States.
So even in the U.S.
we have this ant operation that's going on also as Oscar Blue is reporting from Tapachula that the um that they're dispersing uh the migrants throughout Mexico and and now you see it also in the United States where where they're being dispersed throughout the country.
But uh these migrants uh that are showing uh these groups of 100 This is the first wave that are arriving and they were all in Tapachula.
I spoke to them, Cubans, Venezuelans, people from Ghana, Angola, and they all told me they were in Tapachula, Chiapas.
They had arrived there in February and they were given a temporary permit.
These were issued in early March and it only took them a week to get here and now they cross and they're the people you see that are in the United States now.
steve bannon
I just want to make sure people understand this.
Your contention as you're down there reporting is that the Biden administration is not going to let another situation like happen with the Haitians that you see 10,000 or 15,000 under the bridge that becomes an international media event.
As soon as people cross, they're going to roll them into some sort of processing area and then get them into the interior of the country?
Is that what we're seeing?
unidentified
Yeah, so with the Haitians, what happened is that the Mexican government provided the buses, so they were all bused to Acuna, and that's how we had the 15,000 here.
Now what's happening is that organized crime is taking over that role, and they're dispersing them throughout Mexico.
And you may not see a big wave as we saw with the Haitians, but these numbers are so big that, you know, we're seeing these groups of 100, 150.
And it's just in Del Rio.
It's also happening in Piedra Negra, Cigo Pass, and down in the Rio Grande Valley.
And you saw the reports from Ben Birkwam down in Yum, Arizona.
So they're being dispersed.
They're not hitting one specific spot, but it's happening throughout the border.
steve bannon
We had, Ben, also in La Jolla, Texas, and the law enforcement there, not just this Border Patrol, but local law enforcement is just overwhelmed.
Is that still the same in Del Rio?
unidentified
It is.
There's just a report now that I was seeing from Breitbart News saying there's no Border Patrol in Eagle Pass, Texas.
There's no Border Patrol along the river.
Because they're all in the processing centers getting all these migrants processed.
So it's only National Guard that are receiving the migrants and holding them until somebody from Border Patrol does arrive and takes them to the processing centers.
Same here in Del Rio.
There's very, very few Border Patrol agents being at the river.
So yeah, our resources are stretched thin.
Processing centers are maxed out.
And as I mentioned earlier, some of these communities, they're releasing the migrants into the communities because there's no space for them.
That happened in Carrizo Springs and Uvalde, Texas, just about 100 miles from Del Rio, Texas.
steve bannon
Biden just announced a billion dollars for Ukraine and letting in 100,000 Ukrainian refugees.
100,000.
OK.
Auden, how do people get to you?
What's the social media?
How do they follow your reporting?
unidentified
So I'm on Twitter as Cabello Auden and also on Getter.
steve bannon
Auden Cabello, thank you very much.
Look forward to having you back on here tomorrow.
This invasion of the United States is going to be massive in April and May.
Thank you, sir.
unidentified
Yes, sir.
My pleasure.
steve bannon
Let's go to the great Todd Bensman.
Todd, I just want to, as a refresher, the ant operation, and we're not being derogatory towards people.
This is what they call it down in Mexico.
Just explain to people what this ant operation is, why it's important as we prepare for this new wave, this new invasion in April and May, sir.
todd bensman
Well, the Mexican government and the Biden administration have a deal.
The deal is you Mexicans hold back the wall of migrants as many as you can in your South.
Keep them from hitting our border so that it doesn't look as bad and we don't get overwhelmed up here.
So the Mexicans are putting up a bureaucratic wall.
You have to apply for all these papers and the documents and they slow roll it until there's 50, 60, 70,000 of them packed up in Tapachula where Oscar is.
And I was just there in January.
And then they release them all at once because they're rioting all day, every day, demonstrations causing all kinds of problems.
That's what's been happening down there again.
In September, they had to release them.
All of those went to Del Rio and created the migrant camp there.
In September, they did it again, but this time they spread them across 14 different cities, put them on buses going to particular places so that nobody would notice and there'd be no Del Rio migrant camp.
There are 70,000 down there.
Those are the ones that I believe are now hitting the U.S.
border.
The next ant operation is underway right now, I believe.
They're giving them these documents right now, right here.
steve bannon
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The 6 o'clock show, we've got Mike Davis with an update on the confirmation process of Judge Jackson.
We've got Dr. Peter Navarro.
We've got a live update from a PAC down putting money into the Senate race in Georgia.
And of course, we've got this redistricting fiasco out in Missouri that we're deep into the middle of this fight.
A bill passed today that's going to make your head blow up, but we'll get to all that at 6 p.m.
I want to go back to Todd Bensman.
Todd, you're going to be back on the show tomorrow.
We're doing full wall-to-wall coverage of this.
This is an invasion of the southern border, and everybody in the United States has to understand this is the border that matters, the eastern border of Ukraine.
Hey, that's a regional problem that's got to be dealt with, and you got Joni Ernst and Kirsten Gillibrand Talking about tactical nuclear war and this could happen against millions.
This is dangerous, dangerous, dangerous.
We have an invasion going on here in our country.
Todd, how bad is this going to be?
todd bensman
Well, there are two different things that are happening right now.
One is the ant operation that involves the 70,000 migrants that Oscar is reporting about down in Tapachula.
Those people are coming now.
They're going to be coming for a couple of weeks at least.
We're going to start seeing them.
But that's just one threat problem.
The bigger one is going to be when they remove Title 42, if they do it, on April 1st.
That is going to set in motion what I think is going to be a very large Phase 2 of the mass migration crisis that started on Inauguration Day 2021.
That thing, there's no telling how big it's going to be, but I can't find a way out of Concluding that it's just going to dwarf what we've seen so far.
I just, I'm packing my go bag right now and you know this thing is just, it's going to be so big I'm going to have to go down there.
I don't know how I can not stop it.
steve bannon
What are you hearing?
You're one of the best reform folks down there.
What are your sources telling you already?
todd bensman
Well, I'm getting calls from Border Patrol and Blue Uniforms, the guys that man the bridges.
One of them called me last night.
Frantic.
You know, every single border patrol station in the Del Rio district is at 150 percent.
They're having to just release people into the street.
It's just like in the very early days of this thing.
Those are the 70,000, I believe, of the ant operation.
But you haven't seen nothing yet.
I think that this thing is going to blow up, you know, over the next several months into something that's really unrecognizable.
steve bannon
You're going to join us again tomorrow morning.
We're going to have wall-to-wall coverage from deep in Mexico, the southern border of Mexico, all of it.
Todd, what's your social media and how do people get to you at CIS?
unidentified
Sure.
todd bensman
Follow me at tbensman at Getter.
My book right there, America's Covert Border War.
You can buy that anywhere.
Books are sold.
It's about the jihadist threat, which is real and elevated right now because of all of this.
And at cis.org is where I write for Center for Immigration Studies.
steve bannon
Todd, great work.
We'll see you tomorrow morning.
Thank you.
This is the issue right here.
It's inflation and immigration, and now we have an invasion.
It's inflation, immigration, and invasion.
The three I's.
I want to go to Darren Beattie right now.
Darren, Hunter, I told the audience, you know, the laptop came to me first.
I'm the guy that helped it get engaged over the New York Post, so I know this thing intimately.
You've got an amazing article on Revolver.
Walk us through it, sir.
darren j beattie
Yes, it's incredibly hot, it's incredibly important, and it has an extremely crucial angle on this issue that everyone needs to understand.
It's called, and so it begins.
Hunter Biden's laptop and crane board show how the ruling class plans to silence every single Democrat.
One thing people overlook is the censorship predicate they used to shut this whole story up was not racist.
It was that it was Russian disinformation.
This is the new censorship predicate.
It is the third sense predicate for the ruling class.
We need to remember that this is the specific censorship tool they used in this instance in order to silence crucial information.
It was instrumental in people being able to make an Okay.
How did it get to you on Getter?
How did it get to your social media?
How did it get to Revolver?
steve bannon
Vigilant about our own officials use censorship pretext to silence political in this country Okay How do you get to how to get to you on getter how they get to your social media how they get to revolver?
darren j beattie
Give a 30 seconds read the whole piece incredibly hot white hot right now revolver dot I'm at Twitter at Darren JBD and you can find us at getter at revolver news Thank you.
steve bannon
Okay, we're going to get a little better connection and get Darren on tomorrow.
We've got to go through this.
Donald Trump announced today he's suing Hillary Clinton and her clique in a massive lawsuit.
Boris Epstein's going to walk us through that in Battleground coming up next.
You've got to stay tuned for that.
We're going to get into this.
We're going to get Darren Beatty's take on that.
Darren, thank you very much.
Darren's going to be back tomorrow.
We'll get him.
We'll catch Darren, not at happy hour.
But we'll catch him, you know, in his yachting attire.
We'll catch him in a workday.
This story is very big.
And remember, the intelligence community, it was the intelligence community came out and said this was Russian disinformation.
That was a lie.
They knew it was a lie.
And Bill Barr sitting there, Bill Barr sitting there going, Oh, gosh, why the media do they knew this?
Why the media?
Bill Barr, you had the laptop from hell in December of 2019.
We know this from the guy that gave it to us.
The shop owner.
You had it in December of 2019.
You and Chris Wray, we know the FBI had it.
They already made visits to the shop owner.
You knew all about it and you knew the contents of it, sir, for almost a year before.
Okay, we're going to be back in a few minutes.
War Room, a battleground.
You're not going to want to miss it.
It will be on fire.
See you in a few minutes and then see you tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock.
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