March 16, 2022 - Bannon's War Room
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| This is what you're fighting for. | ||
| I mean, every day you're out there. | ||
| What they're doing is blowing people off. | ||
| If you continue to look the other way and shut up, then the oppressors, the authoritarians, get total control and total power. | ||
| Because this is just like in Arizona. | ||
| This is just like in Georgia. | ||
| It's another element that backs them into a corner and shows their lies and misrepresentations. | ||
| And this is why patriots have to put their shoulder to the wheel. | ||
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All this nonsense, all this spin. | |
| They can't handle the truth. | ||
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War Room Battleground. | |
| Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon. | ||
| Welcome to War Room Battleground. | ||
| It is Tuesday, 15 March, year of our Lord 2022. | ||
| It is the Ides of March. | ||
| 2066 years ago in Rome, Julius Caesar assassinated by his colleagues in then the Roman Senate. | ||
| So we've got a lot to get to today. | ||
| You're in the battleground. | ||
| This is the hour of the show we've added to really focus on the hardcore nature of this November 8th election coming up in battleground states, but also battleground districts. | ||
| We're very focused on Pennsylvania. | ||
| We're very focused on Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, Colorado, Arizona, these traditional battleground states, but also going to be these districts. | ||
| Yesterday we went through the 30 Democratic districts that we think we can flip that are on the gun sites right now. | ||
| These are up to D plus 7. | ||
| I think it'd be very much higher. | ||
| Richard Barris is going to come in to say why he thinks it could be higher. | ||
| That could be right now with the intensity we have, could be record. | ||
| Turnout, but we've got a lot of wood to chop and particularly Michigan is a particularly Interesting things are going on there. | ||
| Remember governor Whitmer and people say hey if she wins reelection This fall she's going to be on the very short list of running for president United States if if Joe Biden either doesn't run again or he's kind of forced off to the side which right now is Barris will tell you with with his Approval ratings. | ||
| There's no chance they give him another shot because it would be a total and complete blowout. | ||
| So, Whitmer is somebody you have to focus on. | ||
| There's a case up there that all a MAGA is interested in. | ||
| And this is because it ties directly to 6th January. | ||
| And that is the case of these people who were supposed to be kidnapped. | ||
| Remember, this all blew up a couple weeks before the election in 2020. | ||
| It was in October when it came about. | ||
| And it was massive news. | ||
| MSNBC every night. | ||
| This is like the biggest story in the world. | ||
| I want to bring in now Julie Kelly from American Greatness. | ||
| She has just done an incredible job of covering the details of all these cases on 6 January, but she's particularly focused on this case in Michigan, and I want to get to it because it speaks to larger issues. | ||
| It speaks not just to larger issues of 6 January, it speaks to larger issues of the FBI, Department of Justice, and exactly what's going on in the administrative state. | ||
| Julie, thank you for joining us here today on War Room Battleground. | ||
| Thanks for having me, Steve. | ||
| Okay, set the table. | ||
| Tell us what's at stake in Michigan. | ||
| This trial just started, but it's already been put on hold. | ||
| Walk us through, why is this important? | ||
| Why should we spend any time thinking about these kind of marginal characters that drank a few beers and talked about, you know, maybe kidnapping the governor of Michigan? | ||
| Why is this a big deal in and of itself, and what bigger issues does it speak to? | ||
| Not just about 6th January. | ||
| But about how the FBI, DHS, and the Justice Department comport themselves against American citizens, and particularly the MAGA movement, the deplorables, and the America First movement. | ||
| So there's a lot to unpack with this case, but I think the starting point is pivotal that you just identified, and that is that these arrests were announced on October 7, 2020. | ||
| As early voting was already underway in the state of Michigan and several other surrounding states, there was a big press conference where Gretchen Whitmer gave this overwrought emotional statement, how her life was at risk in jeopardy, blaming Donald Trump for this. | ||
| Joe Biden came out with a statement. | ||
| To your point, there were negative headlines everywhere for Donald Trump, that his right-wing militia men took his dog whistles, as Joe Biden called it, and plotted this kidnapping plan against Gretchen Whitmer, one of his most outspoken political foes. | ||
| Another example of the FBI interfering in a presidential election. | ||
| So as that headlines kind of go away, then we find out that there are at least as many FBI undercover agents and informants in this caper as there are actual defendants. | ||
| And I'm telling you, Steve, you could not, you could take the best fiction writer in the world, Could not make up the lowlifes, both FBI agents and informants who were involved in this, how they lured these really kind of misfits into this plot, paid for every single excursion, the surveillance trips, got these guys stoned, and then recorded them as they were saying these wild things. | ||
| So the trial started last week. | ||
| We can get into some of the details. | ||
| But briefly, what happened in the trial... Hang on one second, because I want to make sure our audience understands this. | ||
| You say FBI agents and informants. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I understand up to 12 of the original 18 might have been on some sort of either government payroll or working with the government. | ||
| Were there actually FBI agents involved or there were just people that were informants to the FBI and to DHS? | ||
| No, there were at least two undercover agents involved. | ||
| In fact, Steve, the government wanted to prevent the defense from revealing the true identities of these two undercover agents. | ||
| And not only that, wanted to prevent the courtroom sketch artists from sketching these two men, these two undercover agents, their images and making it available to the public. | ||
| And the DOJ said the reason why is because these two men are involved in another domestic terrorism case. | ||
| Of course, that would be January 6th. | ||
| So they want to conceal the names and the faces of these two undercover agents who are really pivotal towards the end of the caper. | ||
| One of them is the man who they arranged to buy explosives from. | ||
| And this is when these men were arrested in October in Ypsilanti. | ||
| Michigan. | ||
| So there are agents involved and there are informants involved. | ||
| Setting that aside, there are also special agents who are managing all of this and managing the informants. | ||
| All three of the top FBI special agents have been removed from the case. | ||
| The one who signed the criminal complaint in the federal charges was fired by the FBI after he assaulted his wife in a drunken rage after a swingers party last summer. | ||
| He's off the case and fired from the FBI, almost impossible. | ||
| The other two agents who are responsible for managing this one, the key informant, also have been removed amid scandal. | ||
| I mean, it's too hard for everyone to digest this. | ||
| I have a lot of my articles on amigreatness.com that sort of break it down. | ||
| But this case is absolutely wild. | ||
| And the fact is that the FBI is really on trial in what's happening in Grand Rapids, Michigan right now. | ||
| Okay, this is what I've got to understand. | ||
| You've got three special agents, which are the senior guys in the FBI in these field offices. | ||
| You've got three special agents. | ||
| You've got a couple of agents actually undercover. | ||
| You've got informants. | ||
| How many actually bros, how many people not somehow associated with the government, were actually involved with this? | ||
| How many total that were not government, somehow associated with the government? | ||
| Right, so there are six men who were charged with federal conspiracy to kidnap and weapons of mass destruction charges. | ||
| Those are six federal defendants. | ||
| Two have pleaded guilty. | ||
| They will testify for the government against their other co-conspirators. | ||
| Eight other men face state charges and their trial, various trials are ongoing related to their charges. | ||
| So, I just want to do the math here. | ||
| There's 16 total, right? | ||
| There's 8 at the state level, which must not mean their charges are serious, but not at that level. | ||
| There are 8 at the federal level and 2 have already become witnesses. | ||
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| 6 at the federal level. | ||
| Oh, and two of those, so it's only 14. | ||
| It's not 16, it's 14. | ||
| Four are on trial. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That even makes my case better because you've got, against that, you've got three, five, you've got what? | ||
| You've got six federal, no, you've got more than that. | ||
| How many federal agents? | ||
| You've got two undercovers and three specials. | ||
| That gives me five FBI guys in the payroll. | ||
| How many informants? | ||
| The defense attorneys have identified 12, both informants and undercover agents. | ||
| So we're still finding out the names of those people, who they are. | ||
| There were names that had been raised in the first few days of testimony that I'm not familiar with, but I'm certain the defense counsel is. | ||
| So we haven't clearly pinpointed which are undercover, which are informants. | ||
| But the news that's coming out about the informants... Julie, isn't this ludicrous on the face of it that you've got a dozen people associated with the FBI and you've got these guys living in their mom's basement? | ||
| You've got 14 of those? | ||
| It's almost like a pick-up basketball game, shirts and skins. | ||
| Obviously, they somehow wouldn't have had this many people on it. | ||
| They were pushing this thing forward and maneuvering it and setting it up, instigating it. | ||
| And you're saying they're paying for things? | ||
| I mean, why is this even, how could this even be going to trial? | ||
| How is this not thrown out just as being completely ludicrous and entrapment by, not as an overzealous, this is the Keystone Cops, the FBI is the Keystone Cops. | ||
| And how did Whitmer say her life was in jeopardy? | ||
| Remember she was crying at the press conference? | ||
| MSNBC, Joy Ann Reid and Rachel Maddow, I think Rachel Maddow had like five nights in a row, that's all you were talking about. | ||
| It was Gretchen Whitmer, the great hero, heroine of Michigan. | ||
| Was her life, with this group of sad sacks, was her life ever really in jeopardy? | ||
| Not only was her life not in jeopardy, what was revealed in testimony last week is that the FBI installed a poll camera outside of her cottage. | ||
| Now, for people who are familiar with Michigan, this is way up north, upstate Michigan. | ||
| It's past Traverse City. | ||
| It's very difficult to get there. | ||
| The FBI installed a poll camera there, so of course they could capture videos of their would-be kidnappers as they were surveilling her property. | ||
| They also installed these lasers that they installed at all of the properties where they lured these men to do field training, to do weapons, to do plotting the kidnapping caper. | ||
| So they had extensive surveillance, not only of these other locations, but of her cottage as well. | ||
| So someone needs to ask her, when was she made aware of this FBI kidnapping plot? | ||
| And when did they install these cameras and these lasers to capture what was happening on this remote property? | ||
| There are a lot of people who need to answer before we get to the next part. | ||
| Who knew about this? | ||
| What did Attorney General Bill Barr know about this? | ||
| This started in March of 2020. | ||
| What did he know? | ||
| Certainly what did Christopher Wray know? | ||
| What did Gretchen Whitmer know? | ||
| What did Stephen DeAntonio, who was the head of the Detroit field office in charge overseeing this master plan, who then suddenly was promoted a week after these arrests in the middle of October 2020, To take over what? | ||
| The D.C. | ||
| F.B.I. | ||
| field office. | ||
| He would be the man on the ground controlling what the F.B.I. | ||
| activity in Washington, D.C. | ||
| on January 6th. | ||
| Did he use some of these same undercover agents? | ||
| Did he use some of the same informants? | ||
| These are all very relevant questions. | ||
| To your point, it's really fascinating that the government is going forward with this, but I really don't think that they had much of a choice except to put on this trial. | ||
| Now I see why somebody came up with COVID. | ||
| I hear the first couple days were good. | ||
| Is Bill Barr and Chris Wray going to be called as witnesses? | ||
| Has the defense designated them as witnesses they're going to call? | ||
| They have not indicated that. | ||
| I would highly doubt it, to be honest. | ||
| I'm sure they won't call Stephen DiAntonio either. | ||
| But they are going to call, I believe, some of the agents who have been pulled off the government's case. | ||
| And certainly this FBI informant, Steve, who is from Wisconsin, A convicted felon with a rap sheet in nine states, who was paid $20,000 in cash by our FBI to lure these men to all of these locations, pay for gas, pay for a hotel room. | ||
| He is the one who organized this national militia meeting on June 6th of 2020. | ||
| Now think about that date. | ||
| He lured all of these angry men who were venting online, not just about lockdowns, but also the George Floyd riots, lured them to this hotel in Dublin, Ohio, where he recorded them venting about what had happened across the country for two weeks. | ||
| Those recordings are being used as evidence by DOJ against these men. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| That's gotta be a joke. | ||
| You can't possibly tell me that having a guy who has multiple felonies over these states, paid cash money by the FBI, lures these guys to a hotel down in Ohio, and then records them as they're blown off steam. | ||
| Please tell me the government's case is stronger than that. | ||
| They can't use that. | ||
| That's ridiculous on the face of it, ma'am. | ||
| Well, not only that, this informant has been removed from the government's case, accused of being a double agent. | ||
| The top informant, he goes by the name Dan, was paid $64,000 by the FBI for six months work. | ||
| He was given a laptop, a computer, a smart watch, new tires for his car. | ||
| What was amazing, Steve, last week, was finding out that the FBI only pays their informants cash. | ||
| Both for rent services rendered, which would be what luring people into these meetings and getting stoned and then recording them and handing it over to the FBI. | ||
| Also, they pay for expenses, but they don't need to submit receipts. | ||
| I mean, this is an operation that is so rogue, so mismanaged, so corrupt. | ||
| That your local, you know, shoe repair shop in your local strip mall couldn't get away with operating their business this way. | ||
| But this is how the FBI is handling low life criminal informants. | ||
| Slow down for a second. | ||
| Are you telling the audience that $84,000 was given, $64,000 to one guy, $20,000 as a fee because their expenses were separate. | ||
| Just as a cash money fee, they were paid $84,000 in total informants to lure these guys into hotel rooms to blow off steam or to lure them up to some training thing in the middle of nowhere in Michigan. | ||
| That's what our case is about? | ||
| That's what the case is about. | ||
| That is the minimum. | ||
| Essentially. | ||
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| They also confirmed that as far as services rendered, they will pay informants once the case is closed out. | ||
| It's sort of a bonus. | ||
| So with the defense attorneys, and they're really good defense attorneys by the way, I wish our January 6th defendants had these attorneys, because they're very careful. | ||
| They've built a really strong case of FBI entrapment. | ||
| And so what they have asked is Well, how do we know that the FBI wasn't incentivizing these informants, offering them excessive amounts of cash, say, if they got these guys to a surveillance camp, or if they got them to say, hey, let's kidnap the governor. | ||
| You know, there's no documentation about that. | ||
| And of course, even if there was, Steve, we couldn't believe what the FBI produced anyway. | ||
| So it's really been just absolutely mind-blowing. | ||
| I think very few Americans would believe what this FBI is up to. | ||
| No, that's why we had to follow this closely to see if the FBI had trapped these guys. | ||
| What's the theory of the case with the government? | ||
| Besides going to a hotel room and blowing off some steam and going out for quote-unquote training in the middle of nowhere, what actions did they actually take that one could see is potentially going to kidnap the governor of Michigan, who has her own security detail and has state troopers and all that? | ||
| How detailed was the planning of this and was there any action taken? | ||
| Well, we're just getting that information, how detailed it is. | ||
| Most of it are posts that were made in group chats on encrypted applications like Signal. | ||
| Also, just a lot of recordings because these two top informants, Dan and Steve, recorded all of the conversations. | ||
| And so, the government is just now fleshing out their case, but a lot of it just seems like tirades, like rants. | ||
| And as one defense attorney said, this was stoned talk. | ||
| This wasn't an actual plan. | ||
| They were moving towards that these men were trying to buy explosives at the end to build a bomb that would blow up this bridge outside of her home, that they'd be able to abduct her from her cottage, put her on some sort of boat in the middle of Lake Michigan and leave her there, or take her over to Wisconsin and put her on some kind of citizen's trial. | ||
| I mean, this is the sort of thing that these men, At the behest and urging and incitement of these informants and some of the undercover agents we're talking about. | ||
| But Steve, the man who they accuse of being in charge of, and this is the sad aspect of this, a 37-year-old man named Adam Fox, no family, no real friends, lived in the dilapidated cellar of a vacuum repair shop in a strip mall in Grand Rapids, Michigan. | ||
| If he wanted to brush his teeth or use the bathroom, his lawyer said last week in court, he had to go next door to the Mexican restaurant. | ||
| This is the guy that our FBI, this powerful DOJ, is accusing of masterminding this kidnapping conspiracy case. | ||
| Because of course they take the saddest, most vulnerable people they can and exploit them. | ||
| Hold on, hang on a second, hang on a second. | ||
| You're telling me the mastermind of the plot to take her in the middle of Lake Michigan and maybe row over to somewhere and put her on a citizen's trial, a citizen's tribunal. | ||
| You're telling me, after blowing up a bridge, that the mastermind of this Right? | ||
| Like the gun powder plot in England, the mastermind, the guy that goes down in history, is a guy living in an unheated basement of what, a vacuum repair store? | ||
| This guy goes next door to the Mexican restaurant to use the head. | ||
| That's a 37-year-old guy with no friends, clearly living in a basement somewhere, and you've got to feel for him. | ||
| This is the villain. | ||
| This is the Marvel villain. | ||
| This is the James Bond villain of this entire plot. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| The government's taking our time and effort, and this thing was blown up in October of 2020 as being the biggest thing in the universe. | ||
| I can tell you why I know they're scared. | ||
| It's all crickets on mainstream media now. | ||
| You don't hear Ari Melber all over this. | ||
| You don't hear Joanne Reed. | ||
| Of course, Rachel Maddow's retired. | ||
| She saw what was all happening. | ||
| She took off, right? | ||
| But you don't see this. | ||
| It's not around the clock. | ||
| Otherwise, they would have cameras there. | ||
| They'd be doing live reports all day long. | ||
| It's total crickets on this trial. | ||
| Is that not correct? | ||
| And maybe it's because poor Adam Fox Right? | ||
| There's this kind of, you know, the typical guy that would live in an unheated, unheated basement of a vacuum repair store, right? | ||
| Using the Mexican restaurant next to a buddy, letting him use the head. | ||
| It's probably not going to, you know, look like Dr. Doom on the stand. | ||
| He's not going to put the fear of God into the media. | ||
| They're not going to be able to sell that. | ||
| Julie Kelly. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| They have completely lost interest. | ||
| In fact, I looked at the Washington Post, New York Times, nothing in the Washington Post, nothing in the New York Times. | ||
| MSNBC had one article talking about how bad these defendants are. | ||
| CNN, I think, had a few stories. | ||
| But there's no coverage of this trial, which speaks to the fact that our corporate media knows this is a losing case for the government, that they helped bolster this before the 2020 election, and now not only is it going to look bad for the government, for the FBI, DOJ on its face, but how this contrasts to January 6th is huge. | ||
| So they want to pretend it's not even happening. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| By the way, this is a winning case for us. | ||
| This shows you the incompetence and the corruption. | ||
| Remember, it's both. | ||
| It's both DOJ and the FBI are completely incompetent and they're totally corrupt. | ||
| And that's what this case is going to show you and that's why we're going to highlight it because it's inextricably linked To January 6th. | ||
| Now, Julie, are you just surmising the reason they don't want the artists to take the face of these guys? | ||
| That some of these informants or agents, undercover agents, may actually be involved in 6th January? | ||
| Well, I think that that's sort of what the prosecutor said. | ||
| That they did not want these faces to be made public because these undercover agents were involved in another domestic terrorism case. | ||
| Well, the largest domestic terrorism case of all time going on right now is January 6th. | ||
| So why would they not want those faces released to the public? | ||
| You would think that it might be someone, perhaps, that not only is the public familiar with, but maybe people could piece together from video on the ground on January 6th. | ||
| Highly unusual. | ||
| To his credit, Judge Schamper, who is the federal judge in charge of this in the Western District of Michigan, denied that request and said, okay, we're done with the games. | ||
| It's time to let these defendants face their accusers. | ||
| It's time for the government to be forthcoming. | ||
| And who these people are that were so deeply involved in this plot. | ||
| OK, this is a big one because we're going to get to the bottom of what went on. | ||
| Look, January 6th, the great James O'Keefe and Project Veritas already has the Pulitzer Prize winning New York Times writer on the record saying they're an undercover hit, saying the whole place was full of FBI, DHS and CIA agents and informants. | ||
| He said it right there on camera. | ||
| We could play that every day. | ||
| In fact, we ought to play it Thursday to get to the details. | ||
| Julie, how do people follow you on American Greatness? | ||
| Because Julie Kelly's reporting. | ||
| She's got all the documents. | ||
| I think I recommend everybody get to this because it's bigger than just this case. | ||
| The reason the mainstream media is not covering it is because they've got so many FBI agents involved in it. | ||
| They just want to go away. | ||
| We're not going to let it go down the memory hole. | ||
| And this is part of the crap we're going to clean up after we take back the House in November. | ||
| This is why it's so important, and to have people up there that are going to turn these things into oversight committees and clean up this crap. | ||
| And quite frankly, Barr and Chris Wray ought to be called as witnesses, and Bill Barr ought to be put on the stand and answer the question, what did you know about this? | ||
| What did you know about this? | ||
| And did you inform President Trump of this? | ||
| Was President Trump informed that there was a plot that the FBI was involved in to kidnap the governor of Michigan? | ||
| And if not, why was he not informed of this? | ||
| Why would you not? | ||
| He's the chief... Remember, he's the commander-in-chief. | ||
| He's also the chief magistrate. | ||
| They don't like to say that he's the chief magistrate. | ||
| Why did Bill Barr... Read the big book. | ||
| Read the book. | ||
| Did he inform Trump? | ||
| No, he did not. | ||
| Walter Mitty. | ||
| You know, he's a big hero. | ||
| I'm a tough guy. | ||
| You know, he's a full of crap. | ||
| Well, Wisconsin doesn't say that. | ||
| Arizona doesn't say that. | ||
| The Pennsylvania Appeals Court doesn't say that, bro. | ||
| And by the way, Barr, you've lied like crazy because we're getting to the bottom of that investigation you said was done by DOJ. | ||
| That is a bald-faced lie. | ||
| There's no investigation. | ||
| You know it. | ||
| That's why you're trying to shuffle around. | ||
| You said there was an investigation and nothing there. | ||
| That is a bald-faced lie because you're a bald-faced liar. | ||
| And it's all going to come out. | ||
| We're going to field strip you, bro. | ||
| You're nothing but a bald-faced liar. | ||
| And now these men are going to rot. | ||
| And they've rotted in jail so far. | ||
| And this is outrageous that American citizens are treated like this. | ||
| Julie Kelly, how did they get you at American Greatness? | ||
| Well, first, I would ask people to buy my book on January 6th. | ||
| It's available on Amazon and other places. | ||
| I do talk about the Whitmer case and tying this to January 6th. | ||
| I'm at amgreatness.com. | ||
| I'm on Twitter. | ||
| Julie underscore Kelly. | ||
| I'm a getter. | ||
| I think Julie underscore Kelly. | ||
| I forget. | ||
| But yes, there's a lot to cover here, a lot to keep covering and I am reporting live as the trial progresses over the next several weeks and on Twitter and then of course at amgreatness.com. | ||
| So you're tweeting out and put it up on getter post live as the trial goes on starting here on Thursday when everybody's back from from COVID duty? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Julie Kelly, you're fantastic. | ||
| I can't figure out who my favorite tough gal from Chicago is. | ||
| Is it Liz Xyor or Julie Kelly? | ||
| Pretty tough competition there. | ||
| Two pretty tough ombrettes. | ||
| Is it ombrettes? | ||
| Two pretty tough ombrettes. | ||
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| Do you like two tough broads? | ||
| Okay, thank you so much. | ||
| I appreciate Julie. | ||
| Great work. | ||
| Go with God. | ||
| Julie Kelly, she's amazing. | ||
| This case stinks to high heaven and we don't follow a lot of the cases here. | ||
| We're following this one because it's so outrageous. | ||
| It's going to tie to all the crap you're going to find. | ||
| About the 6th January people. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| FBI all over the place. | ||
| That's not me saying it. | ||
| That's a Pulitzer Prize winning national security writer for the paper of record of this country, the New York Times, telling the undercover agent from Project Veritas. | ||
| Undercover reporter case. | ||
| Short commercial break. | ||
| We got Holly Kason next about Colorado. | ||
| A lot going on. | ||
| Jenna Griswold's thrown down hard About elections there you will be shocked if you think you were shocked before you'll be more shocked now Plus we got Boris we got Richard Barris on some polling and talk about the sweep We got coming short commercial break back in battleground in a couple of minutes War room battleground with Stephen K Bannon Hey welcome back | ||
| I want to thank the Frank Speech and the Lyndale TV guys for helping us do this. | ||
| We're live up on Getter. | ||
| I want to welcome everybody to Getter. | ||
| So we're live up on Getter in War Room. | ||
| We're all over the place. | ||
| John Fredericks, Radio Network. | ||
| I want to thank everybody. | ||
| Look, I've had Boris step out of a meeting down in Florida. | ||
| He's got a lot of updates. | ||
| We got Holly Kaysan is going to join us, and of course, the great Richard Barris. | ||
| Boris, what do you got for us? | ||
| I know you've been in meetings all week. | ||
| You're going to stay in meetings the rest of this week. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| No doubt about it, Steve. | ||
| It's an honor to be here. | ||
| Love the show. | ||
| War Room Battleground, tip of the spear. | ||
| Well, let me tell you this. | ||
| Let me tell you some direct information for the posse that the leadership of the MAGA movement is stronger than ever and there's a full concentration, full concentration on ensuring that we've got MAGA candidates, Steve, MAGA candidates up and down the ballot all across the country in states which have gone MAGA and states that have That have been battlegrounds and in Democrat states. | ||
| And there's absolutely no accepting candidates who are not strong on the fact that we have got to get to the bottom of the 2020 election and fight for the 3 November movement. | ||
| The 3 November movement continues to be the lifeblood of the MAGA movement, the MAGA base under the leadership of President Trump. | ||
| So it is all, let me tell you this, it is all heat down here in Florida from the event yesterday where I had MAGA Patriots come up to me all night. | ||
| Talking about how much they love the War Room, how the members of the War Room party, to all the discussions and meetings I had today. | ||
| It is full-on MAGA in the state of Florida. | ||
| Yeah, Boris, real quickly, I know you got to jump back in the meeting, but there has been some questions, particularly of the audience and particularly the battleground audience, which is the hardcore of the hardcore. | ||
| They're confused by some of these endorsements sometime. | ||
| But you're saying everything's focused, we're focused up and down the ballot on 8 November, very focused. | ||
| And this is going to be fully vetted. | ||
| These are going to be hardcore MAGA. | ||
| And we know people's minds are right about getting to the bottom of 3 November and holding people accountable and making sure that we can decertify these Biden electors. | ||
| Is that what I'm hearing from you? | ||
| No doubt about it, Steve, because let's be honest, the MAGA base doesn't play around. | ||
| Look at Mo Brooks in Alabama. | ||
| She was up by 50 points, then he came out and said something that really was absolutely wrong, that we've got to move on and leave 2020 behind, and now he's at best in second, but likely in third place. | ||
| The MAGA movement under the leadership of President Trump, and I can assure everybody that the leadership continues to be fully dialed in, the MAGA movement is not taking its foot off the gas pedal and continuing to drive for decertifications in Wisconsin, in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and for us to determine who truly won the election in 2020. | ||
| And I fully believe that it was President Donald J. Trump who won his re-election in 2020. | ||
| Okay, Boris, real quickly, your social media. | ||
| I know you're going to be down there for a couple more days. | ||
| Boris is actually going to be sitting in tomorrow with Peter Navar for a while. | ||
| Boris, what's your social media? | ||
| Looking forward to tomorrow, Steve. | ||
| It's going to be great while you are otherwise engaged. | ||
| You're going to crush it, as always. | ||
| My social media, the website is hot. | ||
| BorisDP.com. | ||
| BorisDP.com, sign up right now. | ||
| We're going to have a newsletter go out in the next 48 hours. | ||
| Hot on Getter at BorisCP, on Twitter at BorisCP, through social at Boris, and of course the hottest on the gram, Boris underscore Epstein. | ||
| Steve, go get him, honey badger. | ||
| God bless. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| I'll see you tomorrow. | ||
| Thank you very much. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| Holly Kaysen is head of this voter integrity issue. | ||
| They've been doing the canvas. | ||
| She had a great report yesterday. | ||
| She's now promulgated that report to many of the senior MAGA people. | ||
| People are going through it. | ||
| But after that, you put this report out. | ||
| I kept bugging you and saying, hey, are any officials looking at it, particularly Jenna Griswold? | ||
| And no, you're getting blown off into the staff. | ||
| And then she dropped some bombs today. | ||
| Tell us what's going on in Colorado, because I want to tell folks. | ||
| Katie Hobbs is going to run for governor, and she's been terrible in Arizona. | ||
| Raffensperger in Georgia, terrible, running for re-election against Jody Heiss. | ||
| But this may be the biggest Secretary of State race in the nation, because she may be the epitome of the problem we have. | ||
| What happened today, Holly? | ||
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Well, thanks for having me back on, Steve. | |
| Today, or I think maybe today or yesterday, Jenna Griswold proposed a new bill into the Colorado Senate. | ||
| It's Bill 22-153. | ||
| And it is an absolute abomination in terms of free and fair elections in Colorado. | ||
| What she's really trying to do is centralize as much power as she possibly can grab right now under her control. | ||
| Yeah, but you said yesterday, be specific about that. | ||
| You had all this punch list of what you wanted to do and get rid of the machines and have a paper ballots and all this. | ||
| And I said, hey, we're burning daylight here. | ||
| Since you've got primaries, you've got general election. | ||
| But she just came out and I think she completely reversed everything you're even thinking of doing, right? | ||
| She wants more centralized control. | ||
| And the way I read at least the summary of this bill is she wants to be able to override county officials like, for instance, Tina Peters. | ||
| Correct? | ||
| I mean, this is a total concentration of power into the office of the Secretary of State of Colorado. | ||
| Am I reading that correctly? | ||
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Yes, you're definitely reading it correctly. | |
| Let me go through some of these highlights in the bill. | ||
| I pulled out some of the key points that are particularly egregious. | ||
| One of the pieces of the bill criminalizes speech. | ||
| Now, it's not just average citizen speech. | ||
| It's elected officials. | ||
| Punishes them or makes it punishable for them to speak out against how the administration conducts elections. | ||
| So let's think about that for a minute. | ||
| She is basically saying that any elected official, any county clerk, basically, or county commissioner that goes against her, the way she administers an election is going to get slapped for this. | ||
| Another piece of it is, Go ahead. | ||
| No, go ahead. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Somebody blow me up even about your you're already getting excitement because my phone's blown up right now. | ||
| The people don't want to know more. | ||
| But go ahead. | ||
| Hit that. | ||
| Hit the points. | ||
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OK, cool. | |
| So in Colorado, there are several really small counties that still use hand count paper ballots on the precinct level. | ||
| In this bill, she wants to force every single county in Colorado to use electronic voting equipment. | ||
| Now that would put a tremendous financial burden on some of these really small counties. | ||
| But secondly, it goes against everything that the USCIP is pushing for, which is hand-count paper ballots on the precinct level. | ||
| I mean, the fact- Okay. | ||
| Let me give you a newsflash, and let me give you a news. | ||
| Cause for America, I love you guys. | ||
| You're hardworking. | ||
| We're this grassroots organization. | ||
| Note to self, she adamantly opposes everything you stand for. | ||
| I understand, you want the machines out, you want to go to the French system, we got one day to vote, you got the paper ballot, and the community comes together, we count them, and in a fair election, only people that are registered to vote, American citizens vote. | ||
| She's opposed all of that. | ||
| She doesn't only not want the system to stand as it is, which is awful, she wants to actually take it to the next level. | ||
| All machines, centralized control. | ||
| If the future Tina Peters, she's criminalizing. | ||
| If they start complaining, it's a criminal offense. | ||
| This is a total complete power grab. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Griswold will be the best example of what this country will become with these secretaries of state that, correct me if I'm wrong, Holly, want to take all the power out of the local community and centralize it into one, even take it away from the state legislature, and centralize into the executive branch of a state government. | ||
| Is that essentially her, is that kind of the bid and the ask on this? | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| She wants to lord over elections with an iron grip. | ||
| She wants the citizens to have no power, and she does not want elections to be decentralized and handled on the county level. | ||
| I mean, some of the other pieces in this bill, I mean, it's crazy. | ||
| If the clerks don't comply with her rules and her new legislation, there are criminal penalties and major fines. | ||
| And obviously, Tina Peters has really gotten under her skin, because in this legislation, there's also specific measures that apply to what happened with how Tina took her backups. | ||
| In fact, one of the pieces of this says that county clerks cannot make backups of their election records. | ||
| Now, this flies in the face of both federal and state We'll get into all the details of this, but look, you came out with this. | ||
| She saw your report. | ||
| She didn't need a meeting. | ||
| We'll get into all the details of this, but look, you came out with this. | ||
| She saw your report. | ||
| She didn't need a meeting. | ||
| She raised you one. | ||
| This is in your grill. | ||
| This is in your organization's grill. | ||
| This is in the Citizens of Colorado Grill. | ||
| So, Holly, what's the next step? | ||
| Given that you had complaints about the way the system is, she ramped it up like that. | ||
| She said, hey, I see where you're going, Holly. | ||
| Love what you're doing. | ||
| Suck on this. | ||
| So, what are you guys going to do about it? | ||
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Well, we're going to raise some cane about this one. | |
| The news of this bill has been spreading throughout the grassroots like crazy. | ||
| on you know right now even though where non-partisan and we're not you know politically affiliated what we have heard is that this bill and the canvassing report is making it to that caucuses and uh... you know like the g l p primary meetings and that sort of stuff i'm not uh... an expert on that but i do know that some of uh... the folks out there who work on election integrity are bringing this to Here's the thing. | ||
| How do people get to your site? | ||
| How do they see your Canvas report? | ||
| I'm sure the establishment GOP is going to go a long way with this. | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| How do people get to your site? | ||
| How do they see your Canvas report? | ||
| But more importantly, how do they also see, can you also put up what Griswold is trying to do? | ||
| Because people have got to understand something. | ||
| If you don't defeat Griswold at the polls, this is the kind of thing you're gonna get. | ||
| You may not get this entire bill, but you see directionally what she wants to do. | ||
| She could care less about all this. | ||
| Everybody's saying, oh, we gotta get back to the local level and have more control. | ||
| We're talking about taking over election boards. | ||
| She said, hey, I saw War Room. | ||
| How about this idea? | ||
| 180 out, right? | ||
| You guys are doing a great job. | ||
| Boom! | ||
| So look, I respect people that come in your grill. | ||
| She just came in your grill. | ||
| Somebody's got to do something about it. | ||
| So you guys got to get organized. | ||
| First thing to do is get all the information. | ||
| You've got to read the Canvas report that Holly's Group's put together. | ||
| You've got to find out more about Cause of America. | ||
| And particularly people in Colorado, you've got to get engaged now because the Republican establishment is not going to bail you out. | ||
| They're the Washington generals to the Harlem Globetrotters of the West. | ||
| They're just there to be a controlled opposition. | ||
| They're not going to fight this hard. | ||
| And this has got to be fought hard. | ||
| So where do people go to get the information? | ||
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They can go to USEIP.org and we'll put up the bill today on the website. | |
| The canvassing report is both on the homepage and in the news section of the site. | ||
| There's also a really decent summary in the press release. | ||
| And we also went so far as to make a video going through the report and doing a question and answer analysis with the chief author of the report and Colonel Sean Smith so that people can really see the implications of what the report is. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Okay, great. | ||
| Holly, thank you very much for coming back here today. | ||
| Jenna Griswold's on the warpath out in Colorado. | ||
| If we're ever to flip Colorado back in a nonpartisan way, somebody's got to get to work. | ||
| You got to have Holly and the team out there, got to have their back. | ||
| And now you see what Jenna Griswold's been up against. | ||
| Holly, thank you so much for joining us here today on War Room Battleground. | ||
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Thanks, Steve. | |
| Now here's why we've got to get this sorted, but there's great news here, and people say, hey listen, let's take the machines out, you're not going to have a fair election. | ||
| Let me be brutally frank, I'm not sure in all the 50 states we're going to have to compete in, you're going to get all the machines out. | ||
| That's just a given. | ||
| Let's have a partner's conversation reality. | ||
| But I can tell you something. | ||
| The intensity is building every day and every poll. | ||
| I want to bring Richard Barris in to walk through this amazing analysis he's done of where we really stand with the electorate as it looks today for 2022. | ||
| And Richard, this is what's going to be key for us. | ||
| We're getting our hands around all this at the local level, at the state level, and clearly at the federal level with the House and the Senate in place. | ||
| So this is the way. | ||
| We've got to win these elections. | ||
| People say you can't win without machines. | ||
| Well, hey, guess what? | ||
| In some places you may have to win with the machines in there. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| That's why we need people to volunteer for election because you're not going to get them out everywhere. | ||
| Richard, tell us about the intensity and tell us about this tectonic plate shift that's taking place across the nation right now coming towards the MAGA movement. | ||
| You're coming on the heels of that, Steve. | ||
| I think the first thing I should say is that numbers like this are historic and you could win without some of these reforms that I know everybody wants. | ||
| There are enough votes out there. | ||
| I really think some of the things that we saw in 2020, not that you shouldn't be diligent in fixing the issues, you know, going and volunteering, becoming a part of the process, but there are, the numbers are sufficient that I'm not sure. | ||
| It's like you get one mulligan, Steve, right? | ||
| You get one crack at what we saw in 2020. | ||
| And after that, look at Virginia, New Jersey. | ||
| This is the hold. | ||
| Hang on. And particularly in Virginia, when people turned out what Richard's saying, I don't want to upset some people because I understand some people are super hardcore machines. What he's saying and the analysis he's got is the tectonic plate shift of rejection of the cultural Marxists at every level. | ||
| And the Democrats, they know this across Hispanics, African-Americans, Chinese Americans, middle Americans, working Americans may be so great. | ||
| If we do our job and get this vote out, it may be too big to steal. | ||
| I don't want to get ahead of ourselves and I don't want to upset the people of 3 November. | ||
| I'm with you. | ||
| We got to do this. | ||
| But Barris is talking about something that's historic. | ||
| What does that mean, Richard? | ||
| Yeah, when I say that the electorate has shifted eight points net away from Democrats since Joe Biden took office, when we started the public polling project, First, that number's huge, but let me explain it a little bit. | ||
| That's the idea of a split. | ||
| What is the partisan split of the electorate? | ||
| If I say D plus 8, it means that Democrats represent their overall share of the electorate is about 8 percentage points greater than Republicans or Independents or whatever group comes after them, right? | ||
| So, of course you want your party to be a larger share of the electorate because you're going to win or the goal is to win 90% or plus of your own party. | ||
| You want a strong base turnout. | ||
| All right, and then you do what you can with independents, which right now are heavily favoring Republicans. | ||
| But that advantage is gone. | ||
| For a long time, Republicans had to play, you know, by taking basically giving Democrats a six ball. | ||
| They played at a disadvantage when it came to the electorate. | ||
| That is changing at a rate that not very many people, whether it's us, Rasmussen, Gallup, by the way, we all talk and we all see it. | ||
| So I'm not the only one out there, you know, making this. | ||
| We're just among the first. | ||
| I mean, the guys at Rasmussen and I have been talking about this since before Halloween. | ||
| You know, like, are you seeing what we're seeing? | ||
| And they are. | ||
| So basically what we're saying is this is a shift Republicans have never enjoyed. | ||
| Not this large. | ||
| Never. | ||
| I want to go back in history. | ||
| 08 to 10 when we had the Tea Party victory that led to a 63 pickup. | ||
| I'm saying if we get the redistricting right at the end, we should have had plus 12 Republicans. | ||
| We're not going to get that. | ||
| But if the great Governor Ron DeSantis of Missouri hangs in there, we could be R plus a couple, right? | ||
| Then down. | ||
| That could still be a minimal foundation for a 100-seat run. | ||
| When you say it's historic, put in perspective, particularly what people remember most, they don't still think they're involved in politics, is the 08 to the historic blowout in 2010 that was delivered by the Tea Party. | ||
| With these kind of shifts, could you see right now, understand there's less competitive districts, but could you see a massive tsunami like in 2010, sir? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, when you're talking about New Jersey, and I always tell people that, to remember in 2008, Democrats won seats, they never really had any business winning, so they were overextended, but we also didn't see, you know, in New Jersey that year, following that year, Chris Christie barely won, but there was a corruption issue with John Corzine, there were really specific circumstances. | ||
| We did not see this organic eruption beneath the surface, which put New Jersey's governorship in play, gubernatorial election in play. | ||
| Virginia was a state that voted for a little bit more than 10 points for Joe Biden. | ||
| It shifted on average about 12. | ||
| And everyone from, whether it's Loudoun County, which is an area that Democrats basically thought was lost to Republicans, Or just greater turnout in the Shenandoah Valley. | ||
| When you see 12-point movements like that, Steve, if people do their jobs, those are districts nobody is expecting to be in play. | ||
| For a long time, we're all hearing about Texas now. | ||
| This is a great example. | ||
| For a long time, we were screaming about Texas 15. | ||
| Most Republican brain trust, they looked at 85% Hispanic and ran for the hills because they're cowards and they're stupid. | ||
| But now that Texas 15 is known and expected to go Republican, there are two other seats that can go in a sweep in southern Texas. | ||
| It could be a clean sweep of three seats just right there. | ||
| And by the way, those are not at all at a... Yeah, at this point, they're going, Steve, at this point. | ||
| You know, and the poll we're doing right now, I can't wait to release it. | ||
| I mean, the Hispanic shift is huge. | ||
| Trump is on Biden's heels among Hispanics. | ||
| I never thought I'd see the day. | ||
| We're going to have... | ||
| We're going to have all those candidates. | ||
| We've been maniacally focused on this for years. | ||
| We're going to have all three of those candidates on, I think, starting Thursday or later in the week, early next week. | ||
| Very important. | ||
| Rio Grande Valley, South Texas. | ||
| Richard, here's what. | ||
| I want this audience to start following you all the time. | ||
| How do they go to the People's Pundit? | ||
| How do they follow you? | ||
| What's your social media? | ||
| Because you're a guy that's at the cutting edge of where the math is, and it's all about math and about turnout. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| It's all about the numbers. | ||
| They can follow me on Locals, peoplespundit.locals.com. | ||
| Check out what we're doing there with the Public Polling Project, which is where this comes from. | ||
| And it's funded by the public, Steve, so there's no corporate interest here. | ||
| There's no, like, a media poll, which is why we're able to do this and stay ahead of the curve. | ||
| It's a conversation between the public and the pollster, which is very different. | ||
| And on Getter, at People's Pundit. | ||
| Those are two great places to follow me. | ||
| Let me just ask you, we've got about 30 seconds. | ||
| Real quickly, your next big piece is going to come out what day? | ||
| Tomorrow. | ||
| It'll be out on local tonight. | ||
| Locals will get some of it. | ||
| And then tomorrow, it'll be there. | ||
| Okay, I tell you what. | ||
| I'll just give this for you real quick, Steve. | ||
| Alright, sounds good. | ||
| Sounds good. | ||
| Okay, perfect. | ||
| We're gonna get it back tomorrow. | ||
| It's gonna be up tonight. | ||
| We'll push it out everywhere on the War Room. | ||
| Richard Barris, the People's Pundit. | ||
| I think the best young pulsar out there. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us on War Room Battleground. | ||
| Okay, we're going to rock and roll tomorrow. | ||
| You do not want to miss tomorrow's show. | ||
| It's going to be on fire both the morning and the afternoon. |
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